But they're not "emergency brakes". Try to use one in an actual emergency. You will crash, I promise. All this brake is designed for is for parking. It's a parking brake. In a manual transmission car, you park, put the car in neutral and engage the parking brake. And purists will tell you, in an automatic transmission car, you park, engage the parking brake and then put the car in park. Both methods are so the car's weight doesn't rest on the transmission while parked.
+AtTheVan Indeed. Manual drivers in the USA are afraid of the handbrake, favouring "the pedal dance" of coming off the brake, biting the clutch and applying enough accelerator not to stall all in one go. That technique in the UK is considered a bad lazy habit and is so full of potential problems you will most likely fail a driving test immediately for using it.... yet at least 50% of drivers in the UK still do it and invariably they roll back while doing do. Not a big deal until someone is wheeling a baby in a buggy between you and the car behind.
I put my car in neutral and release the clutch when I"m sitting at a stop light, but for a different reason. I'm lazy AF and don't want to use the muscle energy to hold in the clutch.
1) Don't rest hand on gearshift (premature wear on shifting fork) 2) Don't leave car in gear at stoplight (unnecessary wear on throwout bearing) 3) Don't use clutch to hold car on a hill while stopped 4) Don't lug engine. High gear and low engine RPM. Gearing disadvantage causing extra load. 5) Don't rest foot on clutch pedal (similar reasons to above)
I understand the 1-3 and 5, but what is the problem with no. 4? I step on the the throttle and the engine produces a high load at lower RPMs, so what? Why is it a bad idea to go to the full load at let's say 1000 RPM instead of 3000 or 5000 RPM?
I have practise my driving the last year or so and i have learned to down-shift more and better and better as i go as to not lug the engine and i also learn to have my hand on the gearshift softly without putting pressure, lastly i put neutral on traffic lights etc unless am the first car and i need to accelerate fast. You have plenty of time to get out of neutral and be ready to accelerate when you are behind other cars. The one thing i can never stop doing is using the clutch and gas combination in uphills etc. I mean the car just slides down when you try to accelerate without that and most of the times you have idiots glued on your ass. Also using the handbrake for up-heal waiting is just crazy to me. The handbrake takes a lot of time to disengage etc and if you want to not slide after releasing the hand brake then you have to high rev the engine before hand and you maybe saving the gearbox but still hurting the engine and hand brake.
On a steep hill...I like to put truck in Neutral, open door, stick both feet out and place them on road to prevent vehicle from going backwards. I do this until my eyes turn bloodshot and a hernia pops out. It saves my brakes and clutch from wearing out!
@@Nomen_Latinum Actually, it'd be safer to have your hand on or the gear stick specifically at a stop or when driving in town, as a quick gear shift could save a life or at least avoid a collision. Be it compression braking to help reduce speed rapidly or quickly putting the car in gear to avoid a collision at an intersection or from near by oblivious driver. This has saved my car from multiple accidents, most serious of which was being blocked in on a train track by a hesitant driver as the barriers came down, if I had hesitated of fumbled a for the gear stick at all and hadn't dropped it into reverse immediately I'd have been blocked in on the train tracks or have had serious damage from reversing into a barrier
@@Ben-Rogue You really shouldn't be on a train track unless the space directly behind it is clear and you are sure you can immediately cross it all the way. If you're stuck on the tracks behind another driver it's your fault.
My late father taught me the e-brake on a super steep hill trick when I was an early 00's teen one of the times he was teaching me to drive. It's come in handy a few times since then. Thanks dad!
@@joelevans8499 Drivers Ed in America now literally includes 0 information on how to drive a manual, most of my friends don’t even know what a clutch is/ have no clue what a basic pattern is for the shifter, my dad just taught me because it’s somewhat of a family tradition/ dying practice in the US
A lot of people commenting saying "it's illegal" wherever they live to put it in neutral at a light, or leave it in gear at a light (conflicting sides, zero data). If any of these folks could provide a link, I will happily include it in the video description. I'm certainly not trying to spread "illegal" information, but I also don't like sharing blanket statements without sources. If it's truly illegal, there is a publicly available law to cite. Please share! Thanks, and have a great day!
I don't have a direct link but when I took my drivers test (in Alberta, Canada) my driving instructor took off points for taking it out of gear and taking my foot off the clutch at a red light. The reasoning he told me was because in the event of some sort of emergency happening where I would need to move my car to avoid being hit or whatever, it is easier for me to just let out the clutch and move than it would be to press the clutch in, shift into gear, then let it out to move. I actually paused the video right after you mentioned it to see what the comments said about this topic, and I'm glad it's been brought up. As far as I know it's not "illegal" (also impossible to enforce), however it's more safe potentially to just leave it in gear.
+AleksSnipes In the UK we are taught the opposite. At a light you have to take it out of gear and apply the hand brake (e-brake). The reasonsing is if you get rear ended your foot might come off the clutch and the car will keep moving through the red light or into the car infront of you.
+Matthew Lock you have to apply the e-brake at red lights? That's crazy, if I did that here on a driver's test it would probably be considered an instant fail. How odd. Also some modern cars (I believe the new Vw's) have autobraking in the event of an accident where you're rear-ended, it will automatically hold the brakes for you in case your foot slips off. I understand that being a risk, sliding into an intersection after being hit is a good recipe for being hit again.
+Engineering Explained From my knowledge and experience, the law of having to leave a car in gear at a red light is quite pathetic. I don't know if it exists anywhere in the world, because cars are built to be in Neutral at rest, and this applies to both manual and automatic transmission cars, you don't leave it in a gear and hold down the clutch, it wears off a lot, and you most probably shouldn't leave an automatic in Drive gear either. In emergency scenarios, I do not believe that many could react so quickly or in anyways correctly that it makes a relevant difference to putting it in gear from Neutral, if that is the case then the driver should improve their skills! I was taught to build a habit of putting the car into neutral every chance possible, regardless of how long the stop is. I cannot think of a situation where you're at a red or a stop anywhere, and would react to something having to drive off forward as quickly as possible. Say there is a car or a truck with a blown tire, failed brakes, a drunk, or even a mad reckless psycho coming from any direction; front, rear, sides - if you simply drive off hoping to dodge him, wouldn't it add risk to the whole intersection, and to yourself? you could probably crash someone coming from the green light instead. Sure you could get on the side walk.. if necessary but come on! If there is actually a situation and you are frightened, so you let off the clutch too quickly... DAMN..
I have been building sticks for over 50+ years. This was slightly true many many years ago. The detents inside the transmission hold the gear in place whether you have your hand on the shifter or not. So it's your choice to have your hand on the shifter or not. and not be concerned whether you are going to wear out something here in the transmission.
My dad taught me the handbrake trick when I was really young. I always loved the feeling of using all four limbs at once to complete a driving maneuver ;) no wonder I love flying planes and driving stick haha
I understand the hand brake on a hill thing but whats the difference between that and using the foot brake and clutch briefly, same as the hand brake, to start on a hill? On a steep grade I get it.
@@Super.YT_ Exactly! Found it pretty weird how this video introduced it. TBH I need to use it so often that I pretty much always use the handbrake when moving off, even when on the flat waiting in traffic.
Hand resting on gearshift: After driving manuals for 40+ years, I've always rested my hand on the gearshift handle. If you are not applying significant lateral force, the fork won't be engaged; & with properly designed plain/journal bearings & modern oils, there will be no wear due to boundary layer fluid dynamics. With significant lateral forces, one might be able to cause catastrophic wear.
sorry man, imma call you out on that one. i AM a mechanic and yes, i do break down the transmission from time to time. first of all, in your transmission, the gear selector moves the shifting forks, yes, but those shifting forks in tern move the synchros. which are always oiled and usually have tension on the gears anyway. so no, you don't wear out your shift fork, you don't wear out your selection gear, and mechanics don't care about resting the hand on the selecter hope that clears things up a bit
I don't really understand the US american preference of automatic. I drove both and I would pick a manual every day over automatic. Both works but to me switching gears manually is simply a lot of fun I wouldn't want to miss.
+CoIdHeat Easy answer: Americans do not care about economy and they're just too lazy/afraid to learn. It's fun to ask an American if they're concerned about the environment or if they find it hard to learn new things. They'll say yes and no respectively, but in reality it's the other way around.
AshtonPhoto I guess that counts actually for a lot of people, all over the world. Americans are just known to have a tendency to take things over the top which makes them stand out even more. By the way: Are you american yourself?
+AshtonPhoto What an ignorant comment. What does the "economy" have to with it? Also, it's much more convenient to have automatic transitions in the US because of the long interstates, compared to a much smaller europe. Don't generalize an entire nation as lazy or afraid to learn.
***** It's all up to the driver how hard or gentle he wants to accelerate. It's not like an experienced driver has to accelerate hard. Yet when I'm driving myself I actually often like to do so because it has this sporting character given the right car. And given the fact I'm not an asshole I don't drive that way with passengers aboard if they don't like it either. It's simply great to have the option. An option that an automatic car doesn't give me.
1)Don't rest your hand on the shifter (with too much pressure). 2)Avoid depressing clutch pedal when stopped (i.e. at a red light) 3)When starting on a steep hill, use the hand brake technique. 4)Don't rest foot on the clutch pedal. 5)If you need significant acceleration when the RPM's are low, downshift first.
It just wears out the bearing. Ever tap a clutch and it has a bit of travel before catching? That can get worse over time. It's just common sense, moving part with joints being used as a rest, expect wear.
I didn't even think of wearing the clutch when I'm not in neutral while at a stop light. Once I get my truck running I'm gonna work on that. Actually really helpful info.
I have driven manual transmissions my whole life, yet I still found this video informative to watch. You do a great job explaining. Thank you for taking the time here. Subscribed.
I'm British which is why I've been driving _"stick shift"_ for 35 years. I do rest my hand on the gear stick and as yet I've never worn out a transaxle shift fork. I guess it might happen but you might also be struck by lightning or win the lottery.
And modern automatics are just fancy switches now. You could take a sledgehammer to the shift lever and it might throw a code or you can't shift anymore, but the transmission itself is just fine.
One of the most important videos you've done. I was drilled in 'hill starting', that is using the parking break when starting uphill. The rest is stuff that really should be taught to any driver who drives a manual.
Also, don't diagonally smoosh the stick between gears. Follow a definite and defined 90deg pattern. Don't rush it. Don't jam it in gear. Let the gear select itself. Let it slide in, nice and easy.
*** WARNING: Contains some levels of fiction! (How much is for me to know ;) *** Let me tell you the story of my first instructor... She said to me: "Hold the knob in a firm, positive grasp. Slide it down gently. There you go. Let it rest a moment... Now slide it in, Nice and easy. That's right! Now, do it again, in reverse. Take it out, and slide it in... Good! Good! Now you need to practice until you can feel it, How it just slides in and out, Without any resistance... Can you feel that? There you go! You're changing gears!"
The e-break should hold if working properly. But in this technique he is talking about, the e-break is just to help keep the car from rolling backward.
Sopermon A+ on this summary lmao. Like what can I do while driving my car since all the things I do are bad for the car like not driving with two hands or keeping it in 1st when at a stop
Then what's the point in owning one? Next you'll be saying "don't ride the bus, you'll wear it out" or "don't walk, you'll wear your feet, legs, shoes and the pavement and the grass out". The bottom line is don't go anywhere or you'll wear something out.
MrSupercar55 Save the planet and don't do anything. Except if your rich, royalty, politicions, greenkes who fry around the world on private jets to except awards for saving the planet..Or travelling the world showing how wonderful it is...but don't go where they go because YOU'LL distroy the planet.
in my car, the R gear is where the 6th gear is suppose to be so I always have to remind people that drive my car that even though the shifter looks like it has 6 gears the last one is your backup gear lol
Well I've heard if you shift to reverse going at 80 mph, your car will immediately switch to 80 mph but reverse. But seriously I've once accidentally shifted from 2nd to 1st gear at about 35 kmph (it's when you actually start to hear your engine, since I'm bad at the kmph to mph conversion but it should be around 20-22 mph I guess?). I don't know what I was thinking, it was about two weeks after I got my driver licence and was still learning how to drive my 12 yo car, probably the first week of driving alone, with no one experienced sitting next to me. It was harder than usual but I figured it got kinda stuck. The noise after that was insane, I thought something broke and was scared to death. It took me a few seconds to realize what was the cause since I wouldn't pay much attention to the rpm back then, I'd go more like "ok 30 kmph+, time to shift to the 3rd gear".
+Jordan Maclean Manual transmissions are a dying breed, and most people taking a driving test have never ridden in a manual, much less actually driven one.
I'm guilty of two those, resting my hand on the gear stick and keeping the clutch pedal pressed down at junctions. In 20 years driving (probably about 250,000 miles I've never had a clutch or gearbox issue on any of my cars (vans or motorcycles). Great tips but some of them must make such a tiny difference it's probably not worth it. Holding the car in gear on a hill and riding the clutch will wear it down super fast. I used to work at a Toyota dealership and we had a few customers ruin their clutches on new cars within 20-30k miles. They wanted them replaced under warranty but when we went out with the customers to see if it was their driving I was shocked with what some people were doing, slipping the clutches loads on hills, over revving when pulling away and even during gear changes.
I'm very skeptical of the clutch at intersections thing. Having something elastically deformed for a longer period of time is not going to cause wear, that's not how wear works for something like a metal. What will cause wear are fatigue cycles, so essentially pedal presses. Putting the car in neutral would give you more pedal presses and so, arguably more wear.
@Nbomberyou’ll never see anyone in Motorsports/ driving seriously rest their hand on the stick. Maybe after a stop sign between 1st & 2nd. Anything else is just lazy 😂
I’ve been driving manuals since ‘88 and motorcycles since ‘05. I’ve always been told to stay in gear at a stoplight and watch your mirror, that way you can move if the person behind you isn’t able (or trying) to stop. It’s saved me from more than a few collisions. The key is to always leave yourself an out and pay attention. A little situational awareness goes a long way.
Good tip.But wears out clutch quiet quick,if you keep it engaged at every red light,especially if you live in bigger city.Where I’m from to pass your test had to be only manual car.Automatic wasn’t allowed by law on driving test.And another thing driving lesson program included start up drive on the hill.Wasn’t easy for a beginner,but had to do it.
@@victorpapillon1487 unless the driver coming up on you isn’t slowing down. My ex wife was stopped at a red light, not paying attention, and got rear ended by a truck doing 45 mph. That was 23 years ago and she still has back problems.
@@icheeseit_3050 So your clutch has friction plates which are always engaged when your foot is OFF of the clutch. Your objective, should you accept this mission, is to destroy this friction material and cook those plates. Method 1: One way of doing this is "riding your clutch" by keeping your foot pressed down a LITTLE on the clutch at all times. This causes the clutch plate to semi disengage (but still touching) and turns your clutch into an orbital sander, sanding away your precious friction material and heating up your clutch discs which further increases their demise. Method 2: Take your stock standard vehicle and modify the ECU/software so that the vehicle outputs far more power. Then go take your vehicle for a few hard runs. Assuming the engine can handle the tuning, what happens here is that the engine power now "overpowers" the ability of the friction material to keep the clutch engaged, and again your turn your clutch into an orbital sander. How do you know if you are doing it right? Well you should see some white/gray smoke coming out of your bonnet when standing still and it will smell nasty.
✡ ALFAproduction CS:GO How is that salt? You said yourself that you agree with the idea. I'm asking you as to why you're not following it if that is the case.
As a German, where almost everyone learns to drive manual, this all sounds rather funny. Everything seems so blatantly obvious, except for the "don't use the stick as a handrest". I'm guilty of that sometimes. But the starting on a hill stuff is driving school 101 :) And actually, holding the car on a hill with just the clutch is a good exercise very early on to get a feel for the clutch, as long as you only do it for a few seconds, and then go on to drive normally.
Over here in the UK, and probably Europe in general, manual cars are dominant. Automatics are usually reserved for executive cars and disabled people, or people who just can't hack the clutch. Most of us over here don't understand why you'd choose auto over manual.
Engineering Explained: This is a very detailed video. I love your precision of description of events and I have really learnt a lot for a novice. Thank you and I would appreciate if you continue to make more videos such as these.
That's not a totally bad habit. I usually pay close attention to the traffic lights, I always go to neutral when stopped on a hill but right before my light is about to turn green, I let the clutch out just enough to where it holds, then I apply gas & take off, that way you're only using the clutch to hold on a hill for no more than 5 seconds. When people pull up within a foot of your bumper you gotta do what ya gotta do.
+SoWhat83 honestly people put way too much science into it, I've done it for over 25 years & just replaced my clutch last year, & the clutch wasn't even worn out, I simply replaced it because of the age & it was the stock clutch, in order to get less than 5 years on a clutch you literally have to burn it on EVERY take off, or have your foot resting on it while accelerating, even then, your clutch won't just roll over &'die most clutches last the life of the vehicle. You'd have to literally be a terrible stick driver in order to blow a new clutch in less than 10 years.
u put a very intelligent and 100% accurate video together. thank you for that and i can say that as I've got over 1.5 million miles behind the wheel of a semi truck with a Manuel. news flash for those that say it is illegal to leave it in neutral at a stop light. I've seen allot of officers in my time of driving but I've never seen one say PULL IT OVER YOU GOT THAT VEHICLE IN NEUTRAL. just be real people get rid of the bs games. this man know what he is talking about
This kid is good! I like the way he explains things in a manner that even non-car people can understand. Unfortunately 96% of drivers on the road choose Automatics because they are LAZY and simply put do not care and are not into cars. Personally I HATE automatic transmission cars and all of my cars are manual. If people only knew how much Fun and Control you have with a manual.
Manual accelerate so much faster than automatic. Plus they have far more control, some of the downhill starts in Britain can be awful, there's a 16% (About 1:6)hill that often needs 3rd to pull off, awful in an automatic but easy enough in a manual. Plus in Britain if you learn in a manual you get a Category B license allowing you drive either transmission, if you learn in an automatic you can only get a Category B Auto limiting which cars you can drive, real pain in the arse if you want a reasonably priced car.
Andrew, good stuff. I never knew about any of those British laws. Excuse my ignorance. One thing that I have to disagree with though. Dual clutch automatics and even some "regular" autos have become so good that say in a GTI the automatic is actually faster than the manual. The computer can shift much faster than any human but who cares. I still love the feel and control of a manual and nothing will ever change that.
Philip Rosenthale i had to look up slush box lol im not THAT into cars that i can talk about them for hours on end but i do enjoy works of art and engineering masterpieces ill say that much, Of course I've had NO where near your level of experience of driving that you claim to have, but with my 2 1/2 years of owning a manual in downtown Houston, I can say i prefer an automatic mainly because i had to teach myself how to drive a stick (and i wasn't very good) but hey with the occasional stall or double shift and even the embarrassing clutch grind i wasn't that bad, but after 50k miles i could feel my car was starting to hurt from it. So In the case of the feel of driving wise, yes manuals feel alot better, especially on the winding hills But for everyday use my automatic Camry is at 140k miles currently still runs smooth. Your 'mileage' will vary tho but all that is going to be in the past soon when we welcome our new self driving overlords on a grid system!
It only means yours didn't show signs of abnormal wear that you know of. The design and function of the transmission isn't in question, nor are the driving techniques that cause more wear than others. He's not saying "you will have problems", more like "since this causes more wear than proper technique, why tempt fate?", which seems pretty sensible. I catch myself on these issues now and again, usually my wife catches me with my hand on the shifter and enjoys giving me a hard time for a change.
yea they always do because they need to be ready to shift at an instant, its actually more dangerous putting your two hands on the wheel because if something happened you need to change gears in a split second.
they are not rest their hands there, they are shifting all the time, seems the car has 10 manual gears. He mentioned that if in need of competitive situation your hand can stay there but dont apply much pressure on the stick.
I was told I should watch Fast & Furious when the first one came out, i got to the racing scene where Paul Walkers floor falls out because he is accelerating so fast (later Vin Diesel gets in without mentioning the floor is missing or his feet hitting the road), Also apparently according to F&F the car is at max revs when PW hits the Nos & the car can still accelerate without the revs changing, These vids are based on Science & Reality
that's a really good technique that I'll admit I had never heard of. being from florida (very flat), I've always just "gone for it" when on an incline.
+weirdstuffanimation7 My sister used to think that if a light at an intersection was flashing that you didn't have to stop. So the first time she blew through a flashing red light at full speed with me in the car I about lost my shit (literally and figuratively). Best part... she was nearly thirty when this happened, so she'd been doing this for nearly 15 years before she knew otherwise!
+weirdstuffanimation7 The weird thing is we got teached to do that at driving school, and that was only about a year ago, since it wasn't my car I didn't bother arguing.
Using e-brake to start going uphill is also mandatory thing in Finland. My driver instructor forgot to teach me this and day before the test he put me through an intensive crash course (one try on almost flat ground!). It's not that hard once you grasp the idea and not be overly delicate on the clutch.
There's another way to take off on a hill: you can heel-toe it. I have to do this in my old manual Toyota pickup, because is has no hill-holder and no 'functional' handbrake that would be of any use here. So, I just do this: 1) Clutch in, into 1st gear 2) Start to Roll your braking foot from the brake to the throttle 3) Let the clutch pedal out at the sweet spot It takes a bit of practice to not accidentally ride the clutch, and it's slightly more difficult than a regular heel-toe (thanks Obama... I mean *gravity*), but once you've got it, you're sweet. Trick is to do it very smoothly, and fairly quickly :)
#2 - and also, if you're wearing the clutch release bearing, you're also putting the same end load into the crank thrust bearings (usually on the centre main) and presumably wearing them too. Another reason for not sitting there in gear with clutch down - if something distracts you and you take your foot off the clutch, you get a nasty snatch forward as the engine (hopefully) stalls.
Excellent video. Thank you. I would say that about 50% of the vehicles I have owned were manual transmissions, and the ONLY one of the 5 things I have done is to rest my hand on the gear shift. The only reason I don't drive a manual transmission car right now is that I live in a city with lots of traffic; it's a pain in the behind to keep shifting on the way to and from work. But then... I retire in August. I can get a new car with manual tx after that! Again, excellent video. Thank You.
Thank you! Are you from the UK or Australia or New Zealand? Seems to me few other people say "mate". In any case, thank you. I've been working since I was 15 and can retire with a very decent pension at 61. I'm tired :P
+BoboLaTuque as a retirement present to yourself you should get a holden ute with a 12,7L sonny leonard racing engine which has 1200 NA hp enjoy retirement m8
So much arguing over which transmission is better. You're not a true enthusiast if you don't respect both, so get over it. EDIT: Comments disabled because some people still haven't grown up yet.
In the UK, most cars are manual shift, we're taught to always use the handbrake (e-brake!) when coming to a halt, unless of course the traffic is just creeping along with some very short stops, rather than holding down the foot brake and then transferring quickly over to the throttle pedal! The reason is that your effectively out of control for that short duration. So at a light, stop using just the foot brake, apply the handbrake, select neutral, release the clutch. In the Uk traffic lights go from red, to red and amber together, then to green, so on red and amber, it's plenty of time to select 1st gear and bring the clutch up to the bite point, release the handbrake, progressively releasing the clutch until fully released. Never rest your left foot on the clutch pedal or 'ride' the clutch whilst driving normally! We also learn clutch control specifically for hill starts, but bad habits can form when drivers are too lazy to apply the handbrake when stationary on inclines or at lights
One very minor point I noticed in the video regarding the handbrake is that he didn't push the button to disengage the ratchet when he pulled it. It's a minor thing but one day ten years down the line someone is going to pull the handbrake and it won't hold because the ratchet mechanism is worn out. My driving instructor bollocked me for it saying if every student did that it'd wear out before he sold the car. Maybe an exaggeration but it would be annoying to have to replace parts because people couldn't be bothered to push a button.
It doesn't matter, there's hardly any force on the part of mechanism people fear will get worn out while you are pulling it up, its a ratchet its designed to hold the pressure from the spring and the tension in the cable going to the brake pads. People who think its dangerous are just believing in what their dad told them or their friends its not really based in fact, they just hear a noise and think "must be bad!", the metal is more likely to decay from corrosion over time than that tiny bit of friction.
I can totally believe what you are saying. My final tiny gripe then would be that I don't like the noise it makes when you yank up the brake lever. Other than that, yank away.
I've been searching this video for a long while now and I've finally found it again, I'm so grateful for the way you not only share facts but also explain why.
Although I agree with your "premise", you are dead wrong Jacob Firth. You need to know a fair amount to get a driver's license. The biggest problem is that there's not enough practical training and hands-on driving done in the USA prior to obtaining said driver's license.
The detent plungers hold the selector forks in position, touching the gearlever will do nothing at all. Revmatching is completely unnecessary with a syncromesh (which all manuals have since the 1960's) that's why it was invented.
+Dubsy Dubs Rev matching is completely necessary with synchromesh if you don't want to wear it out in a few years. Large downshifts are severely overusing it. Detents do nothing against the weight of your hand. Even a heavy shift knob can overcome the detents and allow the shift fork to put pressure on the synchro hub.
+Engineering Explained it's one thing to absolutely rev-match to engage a gear (absolutely necessary on non-synchro, completely unnecessary on a synchro gearbox) and another thing to roughly rev-match to engage a gear *smoother* (impossible on non-synchro, optional but nice on synchro gearboxes). Don't use the e-brake to start on a hill. You will use the clutch no matter what brake you use. Better to minimize clutch slipping time. Applied brake, disengaged clutch and in one smooth motion and in order, bite with the clutch, release the brake, keep releasing the clutch, apply throttle. During this entire time the engine should not go more than a hundred RPM above idle and it should take about one second. I can not imagine it can be done with less wear on the clutch using the e-brake.
If it's a true automatic, it has no clutch; instead, it has a torque converter (which is a type of fluid clutch, but a torque converter can multiply input torque from the engine, whereas a simple fluid clutch cannot). A DSG or other similar gearbox is essentially a manual transmission with an automated clutch (or 2) and gear selection which can be automated or manually controlled (tiptronic or any other "flappy paddle gearbox" are also among the automated manual gearboxes). I once drove a rental Mazda 3 with a shiftable automatic, and it sounds like Artavius Simpson's Camry up there also has one. Dodge had one as well, I believe it was called a shiftronic or a slapstick shift. They were true automatic transmissions with a torque converter and normal automatic shift plus a manual shift mode (bump the shifter toward + or -). Most heavy-duty pickup trucks have shiftable automatics like this as well; they typically work better than manuals would in that application due to fact that torque converters can slip and stall without damage under heavy loads, while clutches would burn up quickly when trying to start a heavily loaded vehicle. Many manufacturers have discovered that any given car with a true automatic will always get slightly worse fuel mileage than the same car with a manual transmission, due to the way that the automatic operates internally (namely, when a manual is engaged, there is a complete mechanical connection from the engine to the wheels, while the automatic has a mechanical gap at the torque converter, where a mechanical clutch is replaced with hydraulic fluid. This robs a small but noticeable amount of efficiency; a lockup torque converter decreases this difference, but does not completely eliminate it). This is one of the factors that drives them to build automated manual gearboxes, because they provide the same fuel efficiency as (and maybe slightly better than) a normal manual transmission, with the control of a manual and the comfort of an automatic.
Essentially your clutch is only involved when you're changing gears. Once you're in gear, the power is going directly into the transmission. You don't even need to brake necessarily, just letting completely off the gas while in gear and your vehicle will start engine braking. When your rpm get low, you can downshift to the next gear and continue engine braking. On a long off ramp, I can get the car down to about 30 before i start actually start using my brakes. I sort of play a game in the city where I try to anticipate the speed of traffic and alter my speed with only the engine. Just be aware of what's behind you when you're engine braking, if someone is behind you it's a good idea to lightly hold or tap the brake so they know you're slowing down, you only need to push the brakes down a fraction of a inch to get the light to come on.
No, I don't think that true that engine braking is bad -- so long as you're doing it correctly. If you've got it in the wrong gear and you let the RPMs get too low then it's just like lugging the engine only in reverse sort of, and that's not good at all. Or if you're not rev matching on the downshift, you could cause additional wear and tear on your clutch, etc. If you forgot to take it out of gear when you come to stop and stall the car, that's bad, too. So I could see why some people might recommend against it, especially for drivers who are new to driving stick.
I would do it just to mess around on occasion...when i had someone wlse in the car with me just to freak them out (let the car drift back a bit then work the clutch and throttle to have it creep forward... Back and forth)... But yeah not a good idea in general.
+a DIY Car Guy, I have a up hill leading to a BAD intersection. At the top, it's still on a downhill slope, not to bad, but you will roll. Now, when you are on this side, you have to yield, and during rush hours, you can end up waiting for 10-20 minutes to get a decent window, or someone stopping. On really bad days, I'll ride the clutch, so I'm able to seize the tiniest of windows to avoid running late. Sometimes I've even ride on the opposing lane (usually empty) to match the speed and merge into the right lane, but that's only been done once or twice.
The safe distance should be back far enough where you can see their headlights. If they are any closer and you bump them taking off, well they just rear ended you and you take them to court
+75egcg you know I always wondered that too like hey what if my car rolls back and I hit them did they rear end me or did I hit them!? Lol. But thanks yeah makes sense. I like keeping a distance from other cars just to be safe.
Pedro Andrade You're right, I haven't. But I don't get how that applies here. If I have to stop on a hill anywhere, in any country, and someone pulls up so close behind me that I'm worried I might roll back and hit them, I'll use the few seconds it takes to pull up and put down the hand brake to make sure my car doesn't roll an inch. What's so special about LA that will stop me from doing that?
Resting foot on the clutch was something I knew wore it down, but the extra clutch wear was less than the extra hip wear from my bone condition, so I lived with it until getting an automatic. I did hill balancing on steep hills where people would come close behind me... didn't think of using the hand brake - probably because of using right hand for stick instead.
I always rest my foot on the clutch in traffic when I'm stopping frequently. On the highway I just rest my foot on the dead pedal. It's honestly not a big deal as those things wear out either way and I've been doing it forever and don't have any issues. It's like saying don't drive your car because you'll wear out the engine.
Resting your clutch in while stop messes with the thought bearing. There are many mechanics aware of this and has been mentioned numerous times around the internet. Just don't do it. When at stop, do not stay in gear.
+nujabes7 I don't stay in gear. I leave it in neutral while having my foot on the clutch ready for when the light turns green. Then I clutch in and go. I've been doing this forever with my Nissan Frontier 261,000 miles and have never had an issue when I bought it at 80k miles.
My driving instructor taught me to use the clutch bite in order to not roll backwards and then apply throttle to move, unless on a very steep hills because using the handbrake takes more time. What he neglected to tell me is that: a) this ruins the clutch and b) it almost always stalls a petrol engine. This was very easy to do in his diesel car but when I started driving with my father I felt like I never passed my exam to begin with.
In the US most driving tests are on automatics, I doubt they even offer manual anymore, dunno. I was self taught using a manual transmission, never lived in a town with any hills. So, no never knew this, never had to teach myself that technique because I have never had to use it
@@gumbilicious1 Yeah most people don't need to know how to drive stick but if you do, and you don't have a brake hold, you should learn this technique just to elevate your skills from basic to competent.
@@tubeducky your instructor doesn't seem to be bright to use both hands on the wheel for manual transmission. The other hand must always be ready to shift gears when necessary, especially when shifting and turning at the same time.
@@tubeducky He’s saying it’s easier to keep your hand on the gear shift handle so you can make faster gear shifts. I done it for a long time putting my hand on the gear as a rest and nothing has happened. It takes a long time for things to wear out and you don’t have to treat your car like it’s some iphone
when starting on an incline, i one foot the brake and throttle with a roll motion from the left side of my foot to the right, paying attention to both pedals to ensure no roll back. seemed the most natural way to me when i learned to drive stick.
I was taught to teeter the clutch, and I am already so scared of hills. I've been driving a manual for 7 years and I still sweat on a steep hill that I have to stop on. I feel like I'm going to have to relearn driving this car lol I don't think I could do the e-brake at every hill stop like he had said though. e_e
I was tought to simply bring it to a steep hill and no traffic area and the get it down to 2 seconds take off from neutral and no handbrake it becomes reflexes vs relying wholy on the parking brake as your only option vs a very steap grade and now it's not worn down in a emergency situation
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! Your videos are absolutely superb. I have been driving manuals for like 17 years and I found this video informative. It confirmed most of my knowledge I have either inherited or intuited, as well as answered some questions I have just always kind of had. THANKS
+Kirolos Saad I mean it's not like the worst thing you can do. These are just general tips to avoid small amounts of wear over a long period of time. Not like things are going to break after a week of staying in gear at red lights.
SpudMan It's not that it's bad - just ironic. Someone telling us what not to do with a gear shift yet he does a common 'mistake' of pulling the handbrake up without holding the button in. Don't get me wrong, I know it does little to no damage - but seeing as most people either don't like the sound of the ratchet being pulled at without holding the button in, or the possibility of wear and tear, it just seems ironic for a guy that seems to know a lot about cars (or gear shifts in this case) to do something like this.
+Terrum its normal, did u do autoschool? There they do say, ever pull the handbrake (or parking brake) up without pressing the button, the sound is normal and is an alert to own driver, and that's how this works. The only time you do pull this brake with the button is when you are a drift pilot, and so on, your handbrake will have a switch, so u can move it without any sound...
Although, I can't argue with your technical expertise....I can say that I have driven manual gear box vehicles for 30 years and I always rest my hand on the shift knob. And I have never had a repair cost for this. I think it's a risk factor...but the factor is so low that it may not be worth worrying about. I will admit that I was aware of wearing our the clutch plate while feathering the clutch and throttle to hold me in place on a hill. But I still do it. Bad habits die hard.
+Michael Flatman The hand brake launching technique is almost essential for AWD transmissions. You have to ride/burn the clutch while at the max torque rpm (usually around 4000) then floor it while simultaneously and smoothly releasing the clutch and handbrake. You pre-load the transmission so you don't damage it.
A video about things you shouldn't do, and twice you yank the hand brake on without depressing the button. Hardly a major thing, but if your talking about unnecessary wear, wouldn't you want to avoid the wear on the ratchet?
foot parking brake levers ratchet same way as hand parking brake levers. but dont have a button. sure you can hold the realease rod out while pushing in the foot pedal. but you dont have too. youll wear out 3 engines befote you wear out a parking brake lever.
+Rachel P the ratchet gears on a parking brake, are so large that even under extreme conditions, you would have to replace the brake itself multiple times before you even see a problem out of the gears.
+jhowe67 Yeah from the other comments I've seen this mentioned now, but in the same vein apparently the wear to the throwout bearing from keeping the clutch depressed is so minimal as not to be an issue as well but he picks up on that. Seems ironic to be talking about one avoidable but doesn't really matter minor wear issue while doing another.
In your opinion, what is the better technique for slowing to a stop at a traffic light/stop sign with a manual transmission: downshifting or shifting to neutral and riding the brake? What are the advantage/disadvantages to both techniques?
Redbeard I almost always downshift down to third, most of the time down to second as well, rarely down to first, depressing the clutch finally a bit below 1000 rpm - right before the engine would start to inject fuel again. I don't apply gas when downshifting in this scenario but instead use the clutch carefully to match revolutions. Except when downshifting to first gear - then (and only then) I do double-clutching. Doing it this way gives you very good control of your car and lets you adapt well to the traffic in front of you, it saves fuel as the engine does not inject any fuel for the most part, you rarely need to use the brakes and the wear on your clutch is acceptable as far as I know.
-both, never ride on the brakes alone, at least leave it in gear until youre under 15mph or if needle is on 1K RPM,, but you should be downshifting -putting in neutral with brakes only will wear out your tyres and brake pads
Abc123ddfg probably because downshifting while decelerating/braking is significantly more difficult. If you are in highest gear for example, when you reach 1000 rpm you are still driving at at least 50 km/h. So you would have to disengage the clutch at that speed and cover the rest with the brakes alone. Also wasting fuel as the engine would burn fuel again idling. I would call this the lazy/beginner-way of doing it.
leave the gear on and just use the brakes and then when rpm are low siwtch to neutral and stop. keep in mind you just only use the breakes when you are stopping or in an emergency..to keep distance just take your foot out of the gas and the motor will slow you down..and dont use all the time the clutch, you must be as many as possible in gear, get better control of the car, except when stopped
Awesome video. being a manual driver for most of my life, I actually learned a few new things. Thank you for posting! And you speak very well and thorough, there was alot of info but it was easy to follow along with what was being said. Again, awesome video.
Great video! These are the techniques I have used to teach several people, including my wife and son, how to drive a manual. However, for modern engines, you are wrong about number 4. Lugging the engine saves gas and is the most efficient way to accelerate. It's slow and painful, but it uses less fuel. Here's why. Open throttle at low RPM reduces the pumping losses which account for about 20% of the wasted energy in an engine. Keeping the revs low also reduces the friction losses, which are higher at higher RPM. Together, they maximize your fuel efficiency. This is why GM had the highly annoying skip-shift "feature" on Corvettes and Camaros for over a decade. On a modern engine with knock sensors and closed loop timing controls, lugging the engine is not harmful and it pays off at the pump.
The 2nd point was explained in the same manner by my driving instructor. Why leave it in gear when it takes a second to put it back in and just drive the car, especially in diesel cars. I've been stopping at lights with my foot on the brakes and out of gear for 5 years now and recently I got hit from behind by a car and I didn't move at all to hit the guy in front of me. Great point overall
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To everyone commenting that I'm wearing out the parking brake, I made a video for you! :) ua-cam.com/video/1ePcNfx1UEw/v-deo.html
+youyouv220 actually the term "ebrake" means emergency brake. so its the same thing as saying hand brake
+youyouv220 e-brake is old school for emergency brake
+youyouv220 people also call them emergency brakes
But they're not "emergency brakes". Try to use one in an actual emergency. You will crash, I promise. All this brake is designed for is for parking. It's a parking brake.
In a manual transmission car, you park, put the car in neutral and engage the parking brake. And purists will tell you, in an automatic transmission car, you park, engage the parking brake and then put the car in park. Both methods are so the car's weight doesn't rest on the transmission while parked.
+AtTheVan Indeed. Manual drivers in the USA are afraid of the handbrake, favouring "the pedal dance" of coming off the brake, biting the clutch and applying enough accelerator not to stall all in one go. That technique in the UK is considered a bad lazy habit and is so full of potential problems you will most likely fail a driving test immediately for using it.... yet at least 50% of drivers in the UK still do it and invariably they roll back while doing do. Not a big deal until someone is wheeling a baby in a buggy between you and the car behind.
I put my car in neutral and release the clutch when I"m sitting at a stop light, but for a different reason. I'm lazy AF and don't want to use the muscle energy to hold in the clutch.
same ^^
Same
Yeah,but if you are familiar with the rhytme of the stoplights you can put in gear just before the stoplight goes green.
Computer Addic we have timers it's awesome. You exacly know when it's gonna turn green.
Adodoes That's awesome!
1) Don't rest hand on gearshift (premature wear on shifting fork)
2) Don't leave car in gear at stoplight (unnecessary wear on throwout bearing)
3) Don't use clutch to hold car on a hill while stopped
4) Don't lug engine. High gear and low engine RPM. Gearing disadvantage causing extra load.
5) Don't rest foot on clutch pedal (similar reasons to above)
mvp thanks
cuz you cant drive properly
teejus101 remind me not to buy a car off of you lol
I understand the 1-3 and 5, but what is the problem with no. 4? I step on the the throttle and the engine produces a high load at lower RPMs, so what? Why is it a bad idea to go to the full load at let's say 1000 RPM instead of 3000 or 5000 RPM?
I have practise my driving the last year or so and i have learned to down-shift more and better and better as i go as to not lug the engine and i also learn to have my hand on the gearshift softly without putting pressure, lastly i put neutral on traffic lights etc unless am the first car and i need to accelerate fast. You have plenty of time to get out of neutral and be ready to accelerate when you are behind other cars.
The one thing i can never stop doing is using the clutch and gas combination in uphills etc. I mean the car just slides down when you try to accelerate without that and most of the times you have idiots glued on your ass. Also using the handbrake for up-heal waiting is just crazy to me. The handbrake takes a lot of time to disengage etc and if you want to not slide after releasing the hand brake then you have to high rev the engine before hand and you maybe saving the gearbox but still hurting the engine and hand brake.
This is on point. Instead of resting my hand on the shift knob, I rest it on my girl's legs. So comforting and so far no unnecessary wears.
You might need to replace your girl's legs soon
1st step get a gf
this would've been great if i had a girl.
Emphasis on "unnecessary"
waifu body pillow ftw
Pro tip: Don't turn the engine of your car on, this can lead to heavy wear and fuel reduction
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Bruh ive been doing it wrong all these years
Obviously 🤦🏼♂️😁
Dude, I heard a pro tip. If you purchase a car, it'll suck your wallet dry!
Thanks, I was wondering what I was doing wrong !
On a steep hill...I like to put truck in Neutral, open door, stick both feet out and place them on road to prevent vehicle from going backwards. I do this until my eyes turn bloodshot and a hernia pops out. It saves my brakes and clutch from wearing out!
Ah, the Flintstone Maneuver.
True but you end up getting hemorrhoids.
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jimbo gasoline lol
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But but... 😪 the gear shift was such a good hand rest.
Honestly, so is the steering wheel. It's safer, too.
Understandable
@@Nomen_Latinum Actually, it'd be safer to have your hand on or the gear stick specifically at a stop or when driving in town, as a quick gear shift could save a life or at least avoid a collision. Be it compression braking to help reduce speed rapidly or quickly putting the car in gear to avoid a collision at an intersection or from near by oblivious driver. This has saved my car from multiple accidents, most serious of which was being blocked in on a train track by a hesitant driver as the barriers came down, if I had hesitated of fumbled a for the gear stick at all and hadn't dropped it into reverse immediately I'd have been blocked in on the train tracks or have had serious damage from reversing into a barrier
@@Ben-Rogue You really shouldn't be on a train track unless the space directly behind it is clear and you are sure you can immediately cross it all the way. If you're stuck on the tracks behind another driver it's your fault.
put your hand on your boyfriends stick instead
Anyone wonder how he's able to drive when he's taken parts out of his car and showing them to us?
Serious Business its not out of that car, its out of another one...
zach m
How can you be so sure?
'cause he's that good.
Serious Business because the car wont operate without a clutch...
zach m
Are you sure? Have you tried to drive without a clutch?
Sometimes when I'm driving, I keep my hands on the steering wheel. Am I putting unnecessary wear on my steering rack?
for sure, you'll have to change it like three times a year with driving habits like that
That is mechanically impossible. So grab it as hard as you can
@@Mukdener r/woooosh
Yes
no
Anytime I need to drive from Dallas to Houston I walk so I don’t wear out the tires ;)
you'll wear out your shoes
@@tonytrilex2555 he walks bare feet
Still walking but my tires look good as new
David Cook I’m glad this popped in my recommended today perfect timing lmao
Ok
*CASUALLY PULLS OUT A PRESSURE PLATE*
lol
Haha
That's the spare from the glove box for when you ruin yours trying to impress people
Lemme grab my handy dandy pressure plate...
"What's in your pocket challenge" winner.
My late father taught me the e-brake on a super steep hill trick when I was an early 00's teen one of the times he was teaching me to drive. It's come in handy a few times since then. Thanks dad!
So a standard hill start then?
@@kb_dev If that's what they call it then sure.
@@CharlesVanNoland is this not normal in America? If you can’t do a hill start you won’t be able to get your license in most countries
@@joelevans8499 Have you seen America?
@@joelevans8499 Drivers Ed in America now literally includes 0 information on how to drive a manual, most of my friends don’t even know what a clutch is/ have no clue what a basic pattern is for the shifter, my dad just taught me because it’s somewhat of a family tradition/ dying practice in the US
If you rebuild your own transmission, you'll be doing everything to prevent it from wearing out prematurely.
@@deathrager2404 I think that depends on the transmission. Some might tolerate abuse forever while others might die even when treated well.
@@deathrager2404 Same here and I have had 4 manuals and didn’t replace anything but tires and brakes lol
Just changing the clutch is enough.
This is all BS. I do all this stuff and I only have to replace my clutch 3 times a year. That’s no more than usual right?
No that is way to many times in a year. Sound need more experence in driving a manual trans
@@curtisanderson9062 * face palm *
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Its not. The last one(resting foot on clutch) doesnt only wear the bearing, but also makes the car less efficient.
I do all those things and my car has lasted 15 years with no clutch/gearbox issues.
gear fork wear = weight reduction.
+tyshef Same with clutch wear.
+tyshef shave weight in other places not your clutch assembly lol
+tyshef Sounds like shit Honda owners would say lol
+Nygi T yeah, I'm just being funny, I drive a black '67 mustang. I agree with saving wear against expensive fixes, and important parts.
😂😂😂 because racecar
A lot of people commenting saying "it's illegal" wherever they live to put it in neutral at a light, or leave it in gear at a light (conflicting sides, zero data). If any of these folks could provide a link, I will happily include it in the video description. I'm certainly not trying to spread "illegal" information, but I also don't like sharing blanket statements without sources. If it's truly illegal, there is a publicly available law to cite. Please share! Thanks, and have a great day!
+Engineering Explained Lol what thats pretty stupid
I don't have a direct link but when I took my drivers test (in Alberta, Canada) my driving instructor took off points for taking it out of gear and taking my foot off the clutch at a red light. The reasoning he told me was because in the event of some sort of emergency happening where I would need to move my car to avoid being hit or whatever, it is easier for me to just let out the clutch and move than it would be to press the clutch in, shift into gear, then let it out to move.
I actually paused the video right after you mentioned it to see what the comments said about this topic, and I'm glad it's been brought up.
As far as I know it's not "illegal" (also impossible to enforce), however it's more safe potentially to just leave it in gear.
+AleksSnipes In the UK we are taught the opposite. At a light you have to take it out of gear and apply the hand brake (e-brake). The reasonsing is if you get rear ended your foot might come off the clutch and the car will keep moving through the red light or into the car infront of you.
+Matthew Lock you have to apply the e-brake at red lights? That's crazy, if I did that here on a driver's test it would probably be considered an instant fail. How odd.
Also some modern cars (I believe the new Vw's) have autobraking in the event of an accident where you're rear-ended, it will automatically hold the brakes for you in case your foot slips off.
I understand that being a risk, sliding into an intersection after being hit is a good recipe for being hit again.
+Engineering Explained From my knowledge and experience, the law of having to leave a car in gear at a red light is quite pathetic. I don't know if it exists anywhere in the world, because cars are built to be in Neutral at rest, and this applies to both manual and automatic transmission cars, you don't leave it in a gear and hold down the clutch, it wears off a lot, and you most probably shouldn't leave an automatic in Drive gear either.
In emergency scenarios, I do not believe that many could react so quickly or in anyways correctly that it makes a relevant difference to putting it in gear from Neutral, if that is the case then the driver should improve their skills! I was taught to build a habit of putting the car into neutral every chance possible, regardless of how long the stop is.
I cannot think of a situation where you're at a red or a stop anywhere, and would react to something having to drive off forward as quickly as possible. Say there is a car or a truck with a blown tire, failed brakes, a drunk, or even a mad reckless psycho coming from any direction; front, rear, sides - if you simply drive off hoping to dodge him, wouldn't it add risk to the whole intersection, and to yourself? you could probably crash someone coming from the green light instead. Sure you could get on the side walk.. if necessary but come on!
If there is actually a situation and you are frightened, so you let off the clutch too quickly... DAMN..
The e-brake thing is actually a part of driving license exam here and I think it's a great thing for all people to learn.
"don't be lazy".....this could solve so many issues in the world. Great video man
Step 6: do not drag your opponents out of their automatic vehicles manually...
I have been building sticks for over 50+ years. This was slightly true many many years ago. The detents inside the transmission hold the gear in place whether you have your hand on the shifter or not. So it's your choice to have your hand on the shifter or not. and not be concerned whether you are going to wear out something here in the transmission.
My dad taught me the handbrake trick when I was really young. I always loved the feeling of using all four limbs at once to complete a driving maneuver ;) no wonder I love flying planes and driving stick haha
In Poland (and many other countries probablu) it's part of the driving exam that you take in order to get the driving license
try a bike
Handbrake trick is common knowledge, and here in the UK, the handbrake trick is one of the first things they teach you.
I understand the hand brake on a hill thing but whats the difference between that and using the foot brake and clutch briefly, same as the hand brake, to start on a hill?
On a steep grade I get it.
@@Super.YT_ Exactly! Found it pretty weird how this video introduced it. TBH I need to use it so often that I pretty much always use the handbrake when moving off, even when on the flat waiting in traffic.
Hand resting on gearshift: After driving manuals for 40+ years, I've always rested my hand on the gearshift handle. If you are not applying significant lateral force, the fork won't be engaged; & with properly designed plain/journal bearings & modern oils, there will be no wear due to boundary layer fluid dynamics. With significant lateral forces, one might be able to cause catastrophic wear.
I'm gonna believe this cause a of all them big words
Condot Maroddi your right. we should all leave our gear shifters alone all the time! never ever touch it again!
sorry man, imma call you out on that one. i AM a mechanic and yes, i do break down the transmission from time to time. first of all, in your transmission, the gear selector moves the shifting forks, yes, but those shifting forks in tern move the synchros. which are always oiled and usually have tension on the gears anyway. so no, you don't wear out your shift fork, you don't wear out your selection gear, and mechanics don't care about resting the hand on the selecter
hope that clears things up a bit
But you need the both hands on the wheel, i think thats the rule
Gabriel Castro People WANT you to have two hands on the wheel, but you don't need to unless you're experiencing heavy forces like in racing.
I don't really understand the US american preference of automatic. I drove both and I would pick a manual every day over automatic. Both works but to me switching gears manually is simply a lot of fun I wouldn't want to miss.
+CoIdHeat Easy answer: Americans do not care about economy and they're just too lazy/afraid to learn.
It's fun to ask an American if they're concerned about the environment or if they find it hard to learn new things.
They'll say yes and no respectively, but in reality it's the other way around.
AshtonPhoto I guess that counts actually for a lot of people, all over the world. Americans are just known to have a tendency to take things over the top which makes them stand out even more.
By the way: Are you american yourself?
+AshtonPhoto What an ignorant comment. What does the "economy" have to with it? Also, it's much more convenient to have automatic transitions in the US because of the long interstates, compared to a much smaller europe. Don't generalize an entire nation as lazy or afraid to learn.
***** It's all up to the driver how hard or gentle he wants to accelerate. It's not like an experienced driver has to accelerate hard. Yet when I'm driving myself I actually often like to do so because it has this sporting character given the right car. And given the fact I'm not an asshole I don't drive that way with passengers aboard if they don't like it either. It's simply great to have the option. An option that an automatic car doesn't give me.
+75egcg well said.
1)Don't rest your hand on the shifter (with too much pressure).
2)Avoid depressing clutch pedal when stopped (i.e. at a red light)
3)When starting on a steep hill, use the hand brake technique.
4)Don't rest foot on the clutch pedal.
5)If you need significant acceleration when the RPM's are low, downshift first.
Why is no.4 bad?
dam well my past cars ive driven must have been all fucked up then lol but they are healthy everything is working fine no power drop and iv done all 5
the dont rest your foot is a old myth you have to pres the pedal to make the clutch slipp
press the clutch in red light Wear on the clutch bearing but sadly the pressure plate and the bearing never worn out at the same time
It just wears out the bearing. Ever tap a clutch and it has a bit of travel before catching? That can get worse over time. It's just common sense, moving part with joints being used as a rest, expect wear.
I didn't even think of wearing the clutch when I'm not in neutral while at a stop light. Once I get my truck running I'm gonna work on that. Actually really helpful info.
I have driven manual transmissions my whole life, yet I still found this video informative to watch. You do a great job explaining. Thank you for taking the time here. Subscribed.
I'm British which is why I've been driving _"stick shift"_ for 35 years. I do rest my hand on the gear stick and as yet I've never worn out a transaxle shift fork. I guess it might happen but you might also be struck by lightning or win the lottery.
+tobortine My Old Man always kept his hand on the shifter and there were never any problems. And I drive like that even with an automatic.
justin beamon Yeh, maybe.
And modern automatics are just fancy switches now. You could take a sledgehammer to the shift lever and it might throw a code or you can't shift anymore, but the transmission itself is just fine.
Like between P, R, N, D etc.
+battletoads22, with an automatic that's probably not a problem at all.
>not driving with with one arm on the wheel and the other on the shifter.
But then you'll never be as good as Takumi.
George Perakis lmfaooo😂
To be Takumi you need one hand on the wheel and use the other to rest your head on against the window lol.
You might be thinking of God Hand :P
Why drive one handed trying to be Takumi when you can try driving with no hands like Bunta?
Takumi with one hand steering, pretty good. God Arm with one hand, pretty good. Bunta with one hand? No need for hands he needs to light a cig.
One of the most important videos you've done. I was drilled in 'hill starting', that is using the parking break when starting uphill. The rest is stuff that really should be taught to any driver who drives a manual.
Also, don't diagonally smoosh the stick between gears. Follow a definite and defined 90deg pattern. Don't rush it. Don't jam it in gear. Let the gear select itself. Let it slide in, nice and easy.
Major Malfunction Sooooooo, it's like sex? You don't just jam it in, you go nice and slow
Oh, yeah, baby... Nice, and smooth... Just like that. Hmmm...
Major Malfunction 😂
You see, baby... I know a lot about driving hot rods.
*** WARNING: Contains some levels of fiction! (How much is for me to know ;) ***
Let me tell you the story of my first instructor... She said to me:
"Hold the knob in a firm, positive grasp.
Slide it down gently.
There you go.
Let it rest a moment...
Now slide it in,
Nice and easy.
That's right!
Now, do it again, in reverse.
Take it out, and slide it in...
Good! Good!
Now you need to practice until you can feel it,
How it just slides in and out,
Without any resistance...
Can you feel that?
There you go!
You're changing gears!"
5:41 “assuming your e-brake is going to hold you” and that’s where you’d be making a wrong assumption 💀
TheBanjoShow He was assuming, you dimwit.
Athos74oR3M whoosh
TheBanjoShow grab my e brake 😩
The e-break should hold if working properly. But in this technique he is talking about, the e-break is just to help keep the car from rolling backward.
Yeah mine don't work lol
Video summed up: don't use the car, it can be worn out
Sopermon A+ on this summary lmao. Like what can I do while driving my car since all the things I do are bad for the car like not driving with two hands or keeping it in 1st when at a stop
Pretty much, yes!
Then what's the point in owning one? Next you'll be saying "don't ride the bus, you'll wear it out" or "don't walk, you'll wear your feet, legs, shoes and the pavement and the grass out". The bottom line is don't go anywhere or you'll wear something out.
MrSupercar55 Save the planet and don't do anything. Except if your rich, royalty, politicions, greenkes who fry around the world on private jets to except awards for saving the planet..Or travelling the world showing how wonderful it is...but don't go where they go because YOU'LL distroy the planet.
more like what not to do if you dont want to wear it out.
Lol I love how he just whips out a clutch and explains it so perfectly. He should literally teach a college course!
You forgot one very important thing. Dont shift to the reverse gear after 5 gear. I do that a lot cauze i keep forget that r-gear is not a "race" gear
Temppa you'd break the transmission.
Temppa
Well I’m not going in reversed what could I do
You usually can't put it in reverse if the wheels are even moving lol.
in my car, the R gear is where the 6th gear is suppose to be so I always have to remind people that drive my car that even though the shifter looks like it has 6 gears the last one is your backup gear lol
Well I've heard if you shift to reverse going at 80 mph, your car will immediately switch to 80 mph but reverse.
But seriously I've once accidentally shifted from 2nd to 1st gear at about 35 kmph (it's when you actually start to hear your engine, since I'm bad at the kmph to mph conversion but it should be around 20-22 mph I guess?). I don't know what I was thinking, it was about two weeks after I got my driver licence and was still learning how to drive my 12 yo car, probably the first week of driving alone, with no one experienced sitting next to me. It was harder than usual but I figured it got kinda stuck. The noise after that was insane, I thought something broke and was scared to death. It took me a few seconds to realize what was the cause since I wouldn't pay much attention to the rpm back then, I'd go more like "ok 30 kmph+, time to shift to the 3rd gear".
do they not teach hill starts in america ?
+Jordan Maclean Not everyone takes their driving test with a manual transmission.
+Jordan Maclean Manual transmissions are a dying breed, and most people taking a driving test have never ridden in a manual, much less actually driven one.
+Wedelj that's sad. Can't beat the feeling of a manual.
Jordan Maclean Agreed. But it's harder, so people don't learn it.
+Wedelj its not harder...
I'm guilty of two those, resting my hand on the gear stick and keeping the clutch pedal pressed down at junctions. In 20 years driving (probably about 250,000 miles I've never had a clutch or gearbox issue on any of my cars (vans or motorcycles). Great tips but some of them must make such a tiny difference it's probably not worth it. Holding the car in gear on a hill and riding the clutch will wear it down super fast. I used to work at a Toyota dealership and we had a few customers ruin their clutches on new cars within 20-30k miles. They wanted them replaced under warranty but when we went out with the customers to see if it was their driving I was shocked with what some people were doing, slipping the clutches loads on hills, over revving when pulling away and even during gear changes.
What’s wrong with power shifting?;)
I've smoked all my life but I aint got cancer. Cigs are safe.
I'm very skeptical of the clutch at intersections thing. Having something elastically deformed for a longer period of time is not going to cause wear, that's not how wear works for something like a metal. What will cause wear are fatigue cycles, so essentially pedal presses. Putting the car in neutral would give you more pedal presses and so, arguably more wear.
@Nbomberyou’ll never see anyone in Motorsports/ driving seriously rest their hand on the stick. Maybe after a stop sign between 1st & 2nd. Anything else is just lazy 😂
I’ve been driving manuals since ‘88 and motorcycles since ‘05. I’ve always been told to stay in gear at a stoplight and watch your mirror, that way you can move if the person behind you isn’t able (or trying) to stop. It’s saved me from more than a few collisions. The key is to always leave yourself an out and pay attention. A little situational awareness goes a long way.
Good tip.But wears out clutch quiet quick,if you keep it engaged at every red light,especially if you live in bigger city.Where I’m from to pass your test had to be only manual car.Automatic wasn’t allowed by law on driving test.And another thing driving lesson program included start up drive on the hill.Wasn’t easy for a beginner,but had to do it.
Undue stress for a fender bender
@@victorpapillon1487 unless the driver coming up on you isn’t slowing down. My ex wife was stopped at a red light, not paying attention, and got rear ended by a truck doing 45 mph. That was 23 years ago and she still has back problems.
@@LMarshall73Keep your eyes on your rear view mirror and practice your drag starts from neutral ;)
Great vid.
Seriously you should just do a video on how to destroy a clutch in 10 minutes. That would teach folks faster.
Can you give me some advice to now blow it?? Just starting to learn how to drive stick
@@icheeseit_3050 So your clutch has friction plates which are always engaged when your foot is OFF of the clutch.
Your objective, should you accept this mission, is to destroy this friction material and cook those plates.
Method 1:
One way of doing this is "riding your clutch" by keeping your foot pressed down a LITTLE on the clutch at all times. This causes the clutch plate to semi disengage (but still touching) and turns your clutch into an orbital sander, sanding away your precious friction material and heating up your clutch discs which further increases their demise.
Method 2:
Take your stock standard vehicle and modify the ECU/software so that the vehicle outputs far more power.
Then go take your vehicle for a few hard runs. Assuming the engine can handle the tuning, what happens here is that the engine power now "overpowers" the ability of the friction material to keep the clutch engaged, and again your turn your clutch into an orbital sander.
How do you know if you are doing it right? Well you should see some white/gray smoke coming out of your bonnet when standing still and it will smell nasty.
@@citizendc9 This is diabolical
Already done! The first search result for "corvette clutch"
@@icheeseit_3050 Find a very old car and change to reverse while moving forward
Dont drive your car at all so you wont wear it out
Know how to properly drive, so you don't unnecessarily wear parts out, that are very expensive. Dumbshit
+Bodimir Boda man this is some good advice, never really thought about that
✡ ALFAproduction CS:GO How is that salt? You said yourself that you agree with the idea. I'm asking you as to why you're not following it if that is the case.
+Apache Do you not get the sarcasm in the original comment, or are you really on a salt only diet?
+Bodimir Boda THANK you!
As a German, where almost everyone learns to drive manual, this all sounds rather funny. Everything seems so blatantly obvious, except for the "don't use the stick as a handrest". I'm guilty of that sometimes. But the starting on a hill stuff is driving school 101 :) And actually, holding the car on a hill with just the clutch is a good exercise very early on to get a feel for the clutch, as long as you only do it for a few seconds, and then go on to drive normally.
Ruhe hier :D
+pinkdispatcher Same with us Mexicans, where most of the cars are manual transmission
Same with me in England. It all seems to obvious and driving school 101!
good to know how to hold the car on a hill if youre parking in a hill xD
I think he is talking about more in traffic or at a light rather than going off
Been driving a stick for ten years and didn’t know some of these, thank you!
"You shouldn't rest your hand on the gear shifter". *sounds of Initial D fans having their hearts grinded into pieces are echoing on the internet*
Well never mind. Turns out you can hold the stick as long as you don't apply too much pressure. I commented waaay too early.
+Fadhilah Arsy Nugraha >implying god arm doesnt know what hes doing
+Joe Barbaro I think he doesn't really apply pressure. He seems to know what he's doing. I dunno it's anime so it's fine.
+Fadhilah Arsy Nugraha you are dead wrong. the only place takumi has taught me to rest my hand on is my cheek.
+Peida Li I almost thought you missed the joke there lol
Over here in the UK, and probably Europe in general, manual cars are dominant. Automatics are usually reserved for executive cars and disabled people, or people who just can't hack the clutch.
Most of us over here don't understand why you'd choose auto over manual.
+GuzziHeroV50 It took us ages to accept power steering, too.
+bingola45 Im here in the US driving a 97' Geo Tracker. No Power Steering and Manual its quite fun actually.
Heavy traffic. Like 24 km in 2 hours
+GuzziHeroV50 Manuals aren't really better than automatics now, they are slower. and suck driving in a busy city.
+GuzziHeroV50 "Automatics are usually reserved for executive cars and disabled people...."
Like in America.
Im just listening to this video in the background. Then it hit me.....Driving tips by David Schwimmer.
oh my god. you win the internet today ! haha!
LMFAO true
it cant be undone once noticed
lol yes
I love your videos. I never knew that I was doing 3 of these 5 bad habits, almost every time. Thank you so much for making everything simple.
Engineering Explained: This is a very detailed video. I love your precision of description of events and I have really learnt a lot for a novice. Thank you and I would appreciate if you continue to make more videos such as these.
Thanks Steve!
+Engineering Explained im learning alot from your videos man keep up the excellent work
I have horrendous habits like clutch holding on the hill, resting on the gearstick, keeping it in gear at traffic lights.
your username is my response
That's not a totally bad habit. I usually pay close attention to the traffic lights, I always go to neutral when stopped on a hill but right before my light is about to turn green, I let the clutch out just enough to where it holds, then I apply gas & take off, that way you're only using the clutch to hold on a hill for no more than 5 seconds. When people pull up within a foot of your bumper you gotta do what ya gotta do.
anthonymr921
Hur Hur Hur.... :-)
Ethan
But apparently that`s the bad thing to do, making the clutch hold the car, even just quickly :-/
+SoWhat83 honestly people put way too much science into it, I've done it for over 25 years & just replaced my clutch last year, & the clutch wasn't even worn out, I simply replaced it because of the age & it was the stock clutch, in order to get less than 5 years on a clutch you literally have to burn it on EVERY take off, or have your foot resting on it while accelerating, even then, your clutch won't just roll over &'die most clutches last the life of the vehicle. You'd have to literally be a terrible stick driver in order to blow a new clutch in less than 10 years.
u put a very intelligent and 100% accurate video together. thank you for that and i can say that as I've got over 1.5 million miles behind the wheel of a semi truck with a Manuel. news flash for those that say it is illegal to leave it in neutral at a stop light. I've seen allot of officers in my time of driving but I've never seen one say PULL IT OVER YOU GOT THAT VEHICLE IN NEUTRAL. just be real people get rid of the bs games. this man know what he is talking about
Appreciate it Patrick!
+Patrick robinson it's not 100% accurate
+bolchisb with over 1 million miles behind the wheel are tearing down transmissions to rebuild them myself what kind of credentials do you come with.
+bolchisb it dont break it Right away but does cause excessive wear over time
I 100%, always, always, every time, rest my hand on the stick shift. I know it is wrong. But it feels so right.
not wrong
Nothing wrong, don't worry
If having my dickbeater on the stick is wrong then goddammit i dont want to be right!
No one's gonna be kink-shame you for where you rest your hands.
This kid is good! I like the way he explains things in a manner that even non-car people can understand. Unfortunately 96% of drivers on the road choose Automatics because they are LAZY and simply put do not care and are not into cars. Personally I HATE automatic transmission cars and all of my cars are manual. If people only knew how much Fun and Control you have with a manual.
Manual accelerate so much faster than automatic. Plus they have far more control, some of the downhill starts in Britain can be awful, there's a 16% (About 1:6)hill that often needs 3rd to pull off, awful in an automatic but easy enough in a manual. Plus in Britain if you learn in a manual you get a Category B license allowing you drive either transmission, if you learn in an automatic you can only get a Category B Auto limiting which cars you can drive, real pain in the arse if you want a reasonably priced car.
Andrew, good stuff. I never knew about any of those British laws. Excuse my ignorance. One thing that I have to disagree with though. Dual clutch automatics and even some "regular" autos have become so good that say in a GTI the automatic is actually faster than the manual. The computer can shift much faster than any human but who cares. I still love the feel and control of a manual and nothing will ever change that.
+Andrew Ince I agree with everything you say, except when I am stuck in traffic on M25 :) then... automatic rulz :)
Philip Rosenthale i had to look up slush box lol im not THAT into cars that i can talk about them for hours on end but i do enjoy works of art and engineering masterpieces ill say that much, Of course I've had NO where near your level of experience of driving that you claim to have, but with my 2 1/2 years of owning a manual in downtown Houston, I can say i prefer an automatic mainly because i had to teach myself how to drive a stick (and i wasn't very good) but hey with the occasional stall or double shift and even the embarrassing clutch grind i wasn't that bad, but after 50k miles i could feel my car was starting to hurt from it.
So In the case of the feel of driving wise, yes manuals feel alot better, especially on the winding hills
But for everyday use my automatic Camry is at 140k miles currently still runs smooth.
Your 'mileage' will vary tho
but all that is going to be in the past soon when we welcome our new self driving overlords on a grid system!
I drive manual for over 15 years and I always rest my hand on the stick. Never experienced anything bad
Just knock the wood, tommorrow might be your unlucky day with your gearbox...
It only means yours didn't show signs of abnormal wear that you know of. The design and function of the transmission isn't in question, nor are the driving techniques that cause more wear than others. He's not saying "you will have problems", more like "since this causes more wear than proper technique, why tempt fate?", which seems pretty sensible. I catch myself on these issues now and again, usually my wife catches me with my hand on the shifter and enjoys giving me a hard time for a change.
MFulmer456 I am a car mechanic and you sense what is going on with your gear box without opening it
+Phen0mable more of a psychic
Neither have I.
you are a fraud. In Fast and furious: Tokyo Drift, they always have their hand on the stick
Hahaha
New Beetle A
yea they always do because they need to be ready to shift at an instant, its actually more dangerous putting your two hands on the wheel because if something happened you need to change gears in a split second.
they are not rest their hands there, they are shifting all the time, seems the car has 10 manual gears. He mentioned that if in need of competitive situation your hand can stay there but dont apply much pressure on the stick.
I was told I should watch Fast & Furious when the first one came out, i got to the racing scene where Paul Walkers floor falls out because he is accelerating so fast (later Vin Diesel gets in without mentioning the floor is missing or his feet hitting the road), Also apparently according to F&F the car is at max revs when PW hits the Nos & the car can still accelerate without the revs changing,
These vids are based on Science & Reality
Confused that a hand brake hill start had to be explained as it’s an integral part of a driving test in the UK
that's a really good technique that I'll admit I had never heard of.
being from florida (very flat), I've always just "gone for it" when on an incline.
Same in Australia
Me too, it's the only hill start technique I've been taught in driving school. I learnt and experimented with the clutch technique by myself.
Here in 'Merica you don't even need to be able to balance on your hind legs to get a driver's license.
It's also an integral part of basic English spelling to spell "brake" as "brake", not "break".
Im sending this to my sister. She always uses the clutch to keep the car stationary on a hill. It drives me mad.
+weirdstuffanimation7 My sister used to think that if a light at an intersection was flashing that you didn't have to stop. So the first time she blew through a flashing red light at full speed with me in the car I about lost my shit (literally and figuratively). Best part... she was nearly thirty when this happened, so she'd been doing this for nearly 15 years before she knew otherwise!
+NorthernChev My dad did the same last year. He's 48.
+weirdstuffanimation7 The weird thing is we got teached to do that at driving school, and that was only about a year ago, since it wasn't my car I didn't bother arguing.
+weirdstuffanimation7
LOL, that tomboy (just for driving a MANual at all), haha!
SnOpeK Domowei Itd the correct thing to do if you are only going to stop for about a second but other then that its wrong.
It's funny, because starting uphill using e-brake is a mandatory skill to pass driving license exam in Poland.
No
Everyone needs to know how to hill start, but it's not necessarily on the practical test as not everyone lives in a hilly area.
I had to do that in Oregon too, though it may have only been in driving class, or one test where there happened to be a hill available.
FeedEX40 in Brazil is the opposite, if you start uphill using e-brake, you fail the test, here we need to use the clutch to hold the car.
Using e-brake to start going uphill is also mandatory thing in Finland. My driver instructor forgot to teach me this and day before the test he put me through an intensive crash course (one try on almost flat ground!). It's not that hard once you grasp the idea and not be overly delicate on the clutch.
There's another way to take off on a hill: you can heel-toe it. I have to do this in my old manual Toyota pickup, because is has no hill-holder and no 'functional' handbrake that would be of any use here. So, I just do this:
1) Clutch in, into 1st gear
2) Start to Roll your braking foot from the brake to the throttle
3) Let the clutch pedal out at the sweet spot
It takes a bit of practice to not accidentally ride the clutch, and it's slightly more difficult than a regular heel-toe (thanks Obama... I mean *gravity*), but once you've got it, you're sweet. Trick is to do it very smoothly, and fairly quickly :)
#2 - and also, if you're wearing the clutch release bearing, you're also putting the same end load into the crank thrust bearings (usually on the centre main) and presumably wearing them too.
Another reason for not sitting there in gear with clutch down - if something distracts you and you take your foot off the clutch, you get a nasty snatch forward as the engine (hopefully) stalls.
Excellent video. Thank you. I would say that about 50% of the vehicles I have owned were manual transmissions, and the ONLY one of the 5 things I have done is to rest my hand on the gear shift. The only reason I don't drive a manual transmission car right now is that I live in a city with lots of traffic; it's a pain in the behind to keep shifting on the way to and from work. But then... I retire in August. I can get a new car with manual tx after that! Again, excellent video. Thank You.
+BoboLaTuque Congrats on retirement, mate!
Thank you! Are you from the UK or Australia or New Zealand? Seems to me few other people say "mate". In any case, thank you. I've been working since I was 15 and can retire with a very decent pension at 61. I'm tired :P
+BoboLaTuque as a retirement present to yourself you should get a holden ute with a 12,7L sonny leonard racing engine which has 1200 NA hp
enjoy retirement m8
So much arguing over which transmission is better. You're not a true enthusiast if you don't respect both, so get over it.
EDIT: Comments disabled because some people still haven't grown up yet.
In the UK, most cars are manual shift, we're taught to always use the handbrake (e-brake!) when coming to a halt, unless of course the traffic is just creeping along with some very short stops, rather than holding down the foot brake and then transferring quickly over to the throttle pedal! The reason is that your effectively out of control for that short duration. So at a light, stop using just the foot brake, apply the handbrake, select neutral, release the clutch. In the Uk traffic lights go from red, to red and amber together, then to green, so on red and amber, it's plenty of time to select 1st gear and bring the clutch up to the bite point, release the handbrake, progressively releasing the clutch until fully released. Never rest your left foot on the clutch pedal or 'ride' the clutch whilst driving normally! We also learn clutch control specifically for hill starts, but bad habits can form when drivers are too lazy to apply the handbrake when stationary on inclines or at lights
One very minor point I noticed in the video regarding the handbrake is that he didn't push the button to disengage the ratchet when he pulled it. It's a minor thing but one day ten years down the line someone is going to pull the handbrake and it won't hold because the ratchet mechanism is worn out. My driving instructor bollocked me for it saying if every student did that it'd wear out before he sold the car. Maybe an exaggeration but it would be annoying to have to replace parts because people couldn't be bothered to push a button.
It doesn't matter, there's hardly any force on the part of mechanism people fear will get worn out while you are pulling it up, its a ratchet its designed to hold the pressure from the spring and the tension in the cable going to the brake pads. People who think its dangerous are just believing in what their dad told them or their friends its not really based in fact, they just hear a noise and think "must be bad!", the metal is more likely to decay from corrosion over time than that tiny bit of friction.
I can totally believe what you are saying. My final tiny gripe then would be that I don't like the noise it makes when you yank up the brake lever. Other than that, yank away.
Stigstigster fair enough
I've been searching this video for a long while now and I've finally found it again, I'm so grateful for the way you not only share facts but also explain why.
I love this channel, it soothes my soul as a WHY person
I love that you have to explain how to perform a hill start! You can't even get a license in the UK without knowing that, haha.
Well you don't have to know anything to get a license in the US
Although I agree with your "premise", you are dead wrong Jacob Firth. You need to know a fair amount to get a driver's license. The biggest problem is that there's not enough practical training and hands-on driving done in the USA prior to obtaining said driver's license.
Turbo Diesel you barely need to know amything to get your license, I didnt even know how to parallel park and I still got it
Grant Coltrin : Sorry to hear that. Curious as to what state you live in? Sounds like they need to re-evaluate their driver's licensing program.
Turbo Diesel Utah. But then again, all of the drivers here suck
I rest my hand on the gear knob all the time... it makes me feel better than everyone else. I dont care im still doing it :')
I agree. I do that too and alot most likely I keep my hand on it all the driving jijij but I don't think pressure is put on
I always rest my hand on the gear shift. I guess I wont be doing it anymore.. Thanks for these tips!
All of these things were taught to me by a driving instructor before i got my license. Seems like he did a good job.
2:15
"well.. Here's the pressure plate of the car"
"wtf put it back"
The detent plungers hold the selector forks in position, touching the gearlever will do nothing at all.
Revmatching is completely unnecessary with a syncromesh (which all manuals have since the 1960's) that's why it was invented.
+Dubsy Dubs Rev-matching saves your clutch.
+Dubsy Dubs Come again? Syncros are there for an entirely different reason. In idiot speak, they basically make double-clutching largely unnecessary.
It's not just a fad, as even with syncros, double clutching still allows for faster gear changes, and reduces wear on your syncros.
+Dubsy Dubs
Rev matching is completely necessary with synchromesh if you don't want to wear it out in a few years. Large downshifts are severely overusing it.
Detents do nothing against the weight of your hand. Even a heavy shift knob can overcome the detents and allow the shift fork to put pressure on the synchro hub.
+Engineering Explained it's one thing to absolutely rev-match to engage a gear (absolutely necessary on non-synchro, completely unnecessary on a synchro gearbox) and another thing to roughly rev-match to engage a gear *smoother* (impossible on non-synchro, optional but nice on synchro gearboxes). Don't use the e-brake to start on a hill. You will use the clutch no matter what brake you use. Better to minimize clutch slipping time. Applied brake, disengaged clutch and in one smooth motion and in order, bite with the clutch, release the brake, keep releasing the clutch, apply throttle. During this entire time the engine should not go more than a hundred RPM above idle and it should take about one second. I can not imagine it can be done with less wear on the clutch using the e-brake.
Thanks mate. I have all the 5 bad habits, I'll try changing it.
me too me too
What about paddle shifters can you rest your hands on those
Hahaha
well. technicaly a paddle gearbox is constructed as an automatic gearbox. usually no clutch in those.
Their paddles not sticks
+Wangan_Enemy i was un a Camrey and if i had it in Manuel mode i had to shift it myself otherwise it redlines and burns out the car
If it's a true automatic, it has no clutch; instead, it has a torque converter (which is a type of fluid clutch, but a torque converter can multiply input torque from the engine, whereas a simple fluid clutch cannot). A DSG or other similar gearbox is essentially a manual transmission with an automated clutch (or 2) and gear selection which can be automated or manually controlled (tiptronic or any other "flappy paddle gearbox" are also among the automated manual gearboxes). I once drove a rental Mazda 3 with a shiftable automatic, and it sounds like Artavius Simpson's Camry up there also has one. Dodge had one as well, I believe it was called a shiftronic or a slapstick shift. They were true automatic transmissions with a torque converter and normal automatic shift plus a manual shift mode (bump the shifter toward + or -). Most heavy-duty pickup trucks have shiftable automatics like this as well; they typically work better than manuals would in that application due to fact that torque converters can slip and stall without damage under heavy loads, while clutches would burn up quickly when trying to start a heavily loaded vehicle.
Many manufacturers have discovered that any given car with a true automatic will always get slightly worse fuel mileage than the same car with a manual transmission, due to the way that the automatic operates internally (namely, when a manual is engaged, there is a complete mechanical connection from the engine to the wheels, while the automatic has a mechanical gap at the torque converter, where a mechanical clutch is replaced with hydraulic fluid. This robs a small but noticeable amount of efficiency; a lockup torque converter decreases this difference, but does not completely eliminate it). This is one of the factors that drives them to build automated manual gearboxes, because they provide the same fuel efficiency as (and maybe slightly better than) a normal manual transmission, with the control of a manual and the comfort of an automatic.
I personally love rolling back when I start on a hill.
You should try that in Seattle. You roll back 6 car lengths before you get your foot back on the brake.
I love doing a burn out at ever steep hill. I just dump the clutch and leave the cars behind in a cloud of smoke.
@@kenfrandsen1032 If you know how to drive a stick this isn't a problem.
I love my dad, he taught me all of this a looong time ago!
+Dani2wheels Dad's a good guy!
+Dani2wheels My dad says i'm to stupid to get my driver's license... I already did the theory :D
I'm sure he carries that red clutch everywhere 😀
As always a perfectly explained video....
can you press the brakes while in gear? I heard that wears out your clutch as well. anyone know if this is true?
Fine to do. (Obviously you want to press the clutch in before the RPM gets too low, to prevent stalling, but otherwise no issue).
Thanks!
Essentially your clutch is only involved when you're changing gears. Once you're in gear, the power is going directly into the transmission. You don't even need to brake necessarily, just letting completely off the gas while in gear and your vehicle will start engine braking. When your rpm get low, you can downshift to the next gear and continue engine braking. On a long off ramp, I can get the car down to about 30 before i start actually start using my brakes. I sort of play a game in the city where I try to anticipate the speed of traffic and alter my speed with only the engine. Just be aware of what's behind you when you're engine braking, if someone is behind you it's a good idea to lightly hold or tap the brake so they know you're slowing down, you only need to push the brakes down a fraction of a inch to get the light to come on.
+transce080 not gonna lie, I do that all the time lol. till I saw a video where they said engine braking is bad. but it's hard to get out of the habit
No, I don't think that true that engine braking is bad -- so long as you're doing it correctly. If you've got it in the wrong gear and you let the RPMs get too low then it's just like lugging the engine only in reverse sort of, and that's not good at all. Or if you're not rev matching on the downshift, you could cause additional wear and tear on your clutch, etc. If you forgot to take it out of gear when you come to stop and stall the car, that's bad, too. So I could see why some people might recommend against it, especially for drivers who are new to driving stick.
I can't believe some people still use the clutch to hold a car on a hill. haha
I would do it just to mess around on occasion...when i had someone wlse in the car with me just to freak them out (let the car drift back a bit then work the clutch and throttle to have it creep forward... Back and forth)... But yeah not a good idea in general.
+a DIY Car Guy what do you do then? i'm earnestly asking.
campeador94 press the brake pedal, when I'm ready to go, release brake, press gas +release clutch.
wayde philpot it's worth the fun to do it every now and again, but not as a regular practice
+a DIY Car Guy, I have a up hill leading to a BAD intersection. At the top, it's still on a downhill slope, not to bad, but you will roll. Now, when you are on this side, you have to yield, and during rush hours, you can end up waiting for 10-20 minutes to get a decent window, or someone stopping. On really bad days, I'll ride the clutch, so I'm able to seize the tiniest of windows to avoid running late. Sometimes I've even ride on the opposing lane (usually empty) to match the speed and merge into the right lane, but that's only been done once or twice.
I still freak out while on a hill especially here in LA people like to get really close behind. UGH it's so irritating.
The safe distance should be back far enough where you can see their headlights. If they are any closer and you bump them taking off, well they just rear ended you and you take them to court
+75egcg you know I always wondered that too like hey what if my car rolls back and I hit them did they rear end me or did I hit them!? Lol. But thanks yeah makes sense. I like keeping a distance from other cars just to be safe.
+Pedro Andrade Allow me to introduce you to something called 'the hand brake'...
+localtortoise you've obviously never driven in Los Angeles or heard of its traffic. But thanks for your obviously sarcastic comment/advice.
Pedro Andrade You're right, I haven't. But I don't get how that applies here. If I have to stop on a hill anywhere, in any country, and someone pulls up so close behind me that I'm worried I might roll back and hit them, I'll use the few seconds it takes to pull up and put down the hand brake to make sure my car doesn't roll an inch. What's so special about LA that will stop me from doing that?
Resting foot on the clutch was something I knew wore it down, but the extra clutch wear was less than the extra hip wear from my bone condition, so I lived with it until getting an automatic. I did hill balancing on steep hills where people would come close behind me... didn't think of using the hand brake - probably because of using right hand for stick instead.
Don’t skip 1 to 6 while driving
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Dont accidentally go from 5th to 2nd instead of 5th to 4th
@@toasterbathboi6298 What you can go from 5th to second.
Depending on the car that could work.
@@spelking5 most cars will be too stiff let you down shift that far
I always rest my foot on the clutch in traffic when I'm stopping frequently. On the highway I just rest my foot on the dead pedal. It's honestly not a big deal as those things wear out either way and I've been doing it forever and don't have any issues. It's like saying don't drive your car because you'll wear out the engine.
Resting your clutch in while stop messes with the thought bearing. There are many mechanics aware of this and has been mentioned numerous times around the internet. Just don't do it. When at stop, do not stay in gear.
+nujabes7 I don't stay in gear. I leave it in neutral while having my foot on the clutch ready for when the light turns green. Then I clutch in and go. I've been doing this forever with my Nissan Frontier 261,000 miles and have never had an issue when I bought it at 80k miles.
hmmm... im still against it though,,,, glad you don't have any problems.
Your repair bill when it starts squealing!
Only owner of my Nissan Frontier. Only ever done tune ups, oil changes just regular maintenance for 260k so jokes on you.
5:30 otherwise known as "standard manual driving skills" that everyone should know if they drive a manual unless their car has the new brake hold.
tbh the hill hold feature is so nice. I got it in my GTI after selling my Vibe and it's a noticeable luxury.
Do people not learn this in driving lessons?
My driving instructor taught me to use the clutch bite in order to not roll backwards and then apply throttle to move, unless on a very steep hills because using the handbrake takes more time. What he neglected to tell me is that: a) this ruins the clutch and b) it almost always stalls a petrol engine. This was very easy to do in his diesel car but when I started driving with my father I felt like I never passed my exam to begin with.
In the US most driving tests are on automatics, I doubt they even offer manual anymore, dunno. I was self taught using a manual transmission, never lived in a town with any hills. So, no never knew this, never had to teach myself that technique because I have never had to use it
@@gumbilicious1 Yeah most people don't need to know how to drive stick but if you do, and you don't have a brake hold, you should learn this technique just to elevate your skills from basic to competent.
Luckily my driving instructor taught me a lot of this. I tend to rest my hand on the handbrake it's comfy in my car
exactly. two hands on the wheel is unacceptable!
Your instructor didn't do a very good job then. He should have told you to keep both your hands on the wheel.
@@tubeducky your instructor doesn't seem to be bright to use both hands on the wheel for manual transmission. The other hand must always be ready to shift gears when necessary, especially when shifting and turning at the same time.
@@triadwarfare Uh, yes, you can remove your hand from the wheel to use the shifter. What on earth are you on about.
@@tubeducky He’s saying it’s easier to keep your hand on the gear shift handle so you can make faster gear shifts. I done it for a long time putting my hand on the gear as a rest and nothing has happened. It takes a long time for things to wear out and you don’t have to treat your car like it’s some iphone
Reason why I never put my hand on the wheel after shifting is because I never drive with two hands on the wheel lol
lol I was just bein an asshole
the most honest youtube comment i have seen in years 👌
try driving 240k on a german motor way you will have both hands on the wheel then lmao
Haha I don't doubt it! Both of my grandparents were born and raised in Berlin, Germany and they've told me about the Autobahn.
lmfao😂😂😂
So you telling me Dominic Torreto is doing it all wrong ?? :D :D :P
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I'm telling you Paul Walker is doing it wrong.
+noodles6669 It's easy to criticise someone who is unable to respond to your criticism.
when starting on an incline, i one foot the brake and throttle with a roll motion from the left side of my foot to the right, paying attention to both pedals to ensure no roll back. seemed the most natural way to me when i learned to drive stick.
I was taught to teeter the clutch, and I am already so scared of hills. I've been driving a manual for 7 years and I still sweat on a steep hill that I have to stop on. I feel like I'm going to have to relearn driving this car lol I don't think I could do the e-brake at every hill stop like he had said though. e_e
@@midorialexandros my handbrake is bad so i couldnt hillstart with it even if i wanted to
I was tought to simply bring it to a steep hill and no traffic area and the get it down to 2 seconds take off from neutral and no handbrake it becomes reflexes vs relying wholy on the parking brake as your only option vs a very steap grade and now it's not worn down in a emergency situation
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! Your videos are absolutely superb. I have been driving manuals for like 17 years and I found this video informative. It confirmed most of my knowledge I have either inherited or intuited, as well as answered some questions I have just always kind of had. THANKS
shiiit i feel really bad for my car now
+Kirolos Saad I mean it's not like the worst thing you can do. These are just general tips to avoid small amounts of wear over a long period of time. Not like things are going to break after a week of staying in gear at red lights.
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Ah I see. Yeah I suppose if it's always been used that way for a long time, then it may show some symptoms.
Flowmasta Flam a hella lot of symptoms xD
+Kirolos Saad بص حضرتك العربيه اذا مادستهاش حتدوسك
Lol me too. I have a habit of resting my hand on my shifter 😕
6:03 Telling us what not to do with our car's gear stick yet ironically this guy just cracks his handbrake up without holding down the button. Nice.
And that's bad why?
SpudMan It's not that it's bad - just ironic. Someone telling us what not to do with a gear shift yet he does a common 'mistake' of pulling the handbrake up without holding the button in. Don't get me wrong, I know it does little to no damage - but seeing as most people either don't like the sound of the ratchet being pulled at without holding the button in, or the possibility of wear and tear, it just seems ironic for a guy that seems to know a lot about cars (or gear shifts in this case) to do something like this.
+Terrum its normal, did u do autoschool? There they do say, ever pull the handbrake (or parking brake) up without pressing the button, the sound is normal and is an alert to own driver, and that's how this works.
The only time you do pull this brake with the button is when you are a drift pilot, and so on, your handbrake will have a switch, so u can move it without any sound...
+Terrum i do most time too...the button is just for relase...
+Terrum It's a basic ratcheting mechanism, if there's any wear and tear there it's virtually non-existent
damn, i can't rest my donuts on the shifter no more😭
Although, I can't argue with your technical expertise....I can say that I have driven manual gear box vehicles for 30 years and I always rest my hand on the shift knob. And I have never had a repair cost for this. I think it's a risk factor...but the factor is so low that it may not be worth worrying about. I will admit that I was aware of wearing our the clutch plate while feathering the clutch and throttle to hold me in place on a hill. But I still do it. Bad habits die hard.
It takes a long time for things in cars to wear out there built to last a very long time
Really enjoying your videos dude. I love your technical analysis of everything.
Thank you!
5:45 Sounds like you're teaching us how to launch at a drag strip :D
+Velocity Labs not at 1000-2000rpm!
+Michael Flatman The hand brake launching technique is almost essential for AWD transmissions. You have to ride/burn the clutch while at the max torque rpm (usually around 4000) then floor it while simultaneously and smoothly releasing the clutch and handbrake. You pre-load the transmission so you don't damage it.
+SI0AX yup for sure I launch my awd like that. cos id loose if I didn't
+Velocity Labs replace the the e brake step with trans brake and there you go
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A video about things you shouldn't do, and twice you yank the hand brake on without depressing the button. Hardly a major thing, but if your talking about unnecessary wear, wouldn't you want to avoid the wear on the ratchet?
What about socket wrenches, bikes, foot parking brakes that all use the same mechanism? That's what it was designed to do...
foot parking brake levers ratchet same way as hand parking brake levers. but dont have a button. sure you can hold the realease rod out while pushing in the foot pedal. but you dont have too. youll wear out 3 engines befote you wear out a parking brake lever.
+Rachel P the ratchet gears on a parking brake, are so large that even under extreme conditions, you would have to replace the brake itself multiple times before you even see a problem out of the gears.
+jhowe67 Yeah from the other comments I've seen this mentioned now, but in the same vein apparently the wear to the throwout bearing from keeping the clutch depressed is so minimal as not to be an issue as well but he picks up on that. Seems ironic to be talking about one avoidable but doesn't really matter minor wear issue while doing another.
+Joe Smith
I've never seen or even heard of a foot parking brake before today.
3 to 5 were quite obvious and covered in driving school (Italy), 1 and 2 my dad taught me. 110% good advices.
how do i do this stuff - my car is an automatic
+4Fatty4 😂
+4Fatty4 Troll much?
***** i tried but i had it in reverse so i actually backed into a yellow CLIFF sign
the one Keep backing up sunshine.
cant now hit a sign gone put it in D and see what happens
In your opinion, what is the better technique for slowing to a stop at a traffic light/stop sign with a manual transmission: downshifting or shifting to neutral and riding the brake? What are the advantage/disadvantages to both techniques?
I usually leave in whatever gear I'm in, and press the clutch in once I reach around 1000-1500 RPM, then use the brakes.
Redbeard I almost always downshift down to third, most of the time down to second as well, rarely down to first, depressing the clutch finally a bit below 1000 rpm - right before the engine would start to inject fuel again. I don't apply gas when downshifting in this scenario but instead use the clutch carefully to match revolutions. Except when downshifting to first gear - then (and only then) I do double-clutching. Doing it this way gives you very good control of your car and lets you adapt well to the traffic in front of you, it saves fuel as the engine does not inject any fuel for the most part, you rarely need to use the brakes and the wear on your clutch is acceptable as far as I know.
-both, never ride on the brakes alone, at least leave it in gear until youre under 15mph or if needle is on 1K RPM,, but you should be downshifting
-putting in neutral with brakes only will wear out your tyres and brake pads
Abc123ddfg probably because downshifting while decelerating/braking is significantly more difficult. If you are in highest gear for example, when you reach 1000 rpm you are still driving at at least 50 km/h. So you would have to disengage the clutch at that speed and cover the rest with the brakes alone. Also wasting fuel as the engine would burn fuel again idling. I would call this the lazy/beginner-way of doing it.
leave the gear on and just use the brakes and then when rpm are low siwtch to neutral and stop. keep in mind you just only use the breakes when you are stopping or in an emergency..to keep distance just take your foot out of the gas and the motor will slow you down..and dont use all the time the clutch, you must be as many as possible in gear, get better control of the car, except when stopped
Awesome video. being a manual driver for most of my life, I actually learned a few new things.
Thank you for posting!
And you speak very well and thorough, there was alot of info but it was easy to follow along with what was being said.
Again, awesome video.
Great video! These are the techniques I have used to teach several people, including my wife and son, how to drive a manual.
However, for modern engines, you are wrong about number 4.
Lugging the engine saves gas and is the most efficient way to accelerate. It's slow and painful, but it uses less fuel. Here's why.
Open throttle at low RPM reduces the pumping losses which account for about 20% of the wasted energy in an engine. Keeping the revs low also reduces the friction losses, which are higher at higher RPM. Together, they maximize your fuel efficiency.
This is why GM had the highly annoying skip-shift "feature" on Corvettes and Camaros for over a decade.
On a modern engine with knock sensors and closed loop timing controls, lugging the engine is not harmful and it pays off at the pump.
i'm not resting my hand on the shifter... i'm holding it in gear😃
“I’m not staling the car, just forgeting to press the clutch”
It actually can happen that in a somewhat broken transmission it can pop out of a gear on its own.
Hey, did you buy my old car???
LOL! I had this issue on second gear.
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i wish more vehicles were manual transmission. i hate that manual transmissions are becoming rarer.
Bill Hetherington in brazil manual cars are popular yet though
Bill Hetherington move to the uk, never sat in a automatic car all my life.
Bill Hetherington then come in Europe
Benjamin Desso last time I came in Europe someone got pregnant
In Europe its rare to drive a automatic transmission...
I'll be honest I'm guilty of a few of these. Good vid btw!
+subieguy89 I certainly was too! We gotta keep the remaining manuals is great shape! :)
The 2nd point was explained in the same manner by my driving instructor. Why leave it in gear when it takes a second to put it back in and just drive the car, especially in diesel cars. I've been stopping at lights with my foot on the brakes and out of gear for 5 years now and recently I got hit from behind by a car and I didn't move at all to hit the guy in front of me. Great point overall
Kinda depends on how hard your hit, now doesn't it.