Some additional things to think about! First off, obviously you should never downshift if it means exceeding your engine's redline. Also, skipping gears will put an additional strain on your synchronizers, especially for downshifts. Not that double-clutching is required these days (though if done properly, it will save your synchros), but it can help for getting into first gear if you're moving. If you're traveling at say 15 mph/25km/h, and want to be in first, generally the transmission will prevent you from doing so. Let the clutch out, pop the revs up, then clutch in and shift to first - this will often work. Generally not necessary for getting into other gears, again, that's why synchros exist is to ease and allow for that transition. Hope everyone's having a great day! Consider following on Instagram: instagram.com/engineeringexplained/
I actually came here specifically to say that, about the synchro wear. Going from 5 to 3rd to pass or for a hill is a lot of the reason that the NV4500 will fail the 3rd gear synchro first. Same deal for the second gear on like the Cruze, where people go from 6th down to 2nd for a corner. Worse on the ECO wide ratio trans.
The Cruze has a horrible manual transmission. I hated mine with a passion and after not being able to sell it for months, I took a $3k hit to trade it out.
27Zangle it's fine to drive ('11 eco 1.4t 6MT), but at the end of the day, it's a wide ratio trans that was designed/built with synchros for "normal" ratios, so wear is an issue... I mean, it trashes stock synthetic fluid in 20-30k miles, and should change even amsoil fluid every 50-60k.
Engineering Explained that is the thing though. People, including you, will shift down AND THEN bring the revvs up to match the speed of the drivetrain. You should actually start the rev-match when going out of the higher gear and keep the revs matched as you enter the lower gear and de-clutch.
ofcourse it is honestly i end up doing it every day i have a big ass hill in my yard so i just go into 3rd at the bottom of it because im alcready going 30 mph which is a bit high for my 2nd
Pepe - On a very steep downhill you can go from 1 to 6 and take easy on the gas so it won't put much pressure on the engine and drivetrain. But if you do that on a flat or uphill then you will mess up your car
I don't get those guys complaining like "Just say yes" ... I mean what's the point of watching videos from "Engineering EXPLAINED" if you don't want the explanation ?
Actualy the comments I have seen like that literaly said "make a 3s vid and say yes" and nothing more so they really are not "like you" and do have not the same argument and thinking way than you, that was to those people I was refering (Sorry for the poor english btw) Tho I think I can get your disapointment about videos like this made for most of common people when you already have good subject knowledge, I personally do not even have my license so I learned a lot just by curiosity with this one ^^ Plus there is a few more details in description and comment posted by the owner you might like, just saying :)
I believe everywhere in Europe you have to take driving test with manual gearshift. And same as this guy from Denmark , we in Croatia also have to do a "first aid test" (which teaches you how to immobilize broken bones, perform cpr, stop bleeding, how to treat acid burns from car batteries etc...).
I've been skipping gears for decades without issue. It's certainly something you want to do after you've driven the car for a while and have a feel for the ratios of each gear. Every car is going to take time to get that feel, especially for rev matching.
This has taught me more than I could ask for. Really happy to learn about such things without having to go through a rough experience to learn it the hard way.
I know it might not be as common in the US because most of the places where you drive are pretty flat, but I was taught here in Colombia that if you're going to start from a standstill, and you're gonna be going downhill, you can start from second and even third gear, because the hill will help you with the rest, and you won't really be wearing the clutch.
Yep, on declines, especially if steep, makes it easy to start in second. Simply letting off the brake means you start rolling, and get up to a speed where letting out the clutch is no problem.
One more tip on upshift skip gears. Be sure to bring your RPMs a little higher first before skipping gears, you do not want your RPMs to be too low either because you might risk lugging the engine.
Zachary Garcia I've read in instruction manuals of several cars to never floor the gas. I'm pretty sure the best way is to try and get the speed up as fast as your car can manage without flooring since it saves the most gas.
Rev matching is something i learned in my first month of manual ownership... i miss having a manual. But my options were a 6 speed rio with 6% interest or an automatic soul with 0.99% interest. Went with the money saving option
@@hamyzschidenfeld3215 Many reasons: 1. Manual gives you more control 2. manual actually is more efficient to drive (automatic transmission is heavier than manual aka the car will be heavier and use more gas) 3. Manual transmission is way easier and cheaper to fix if it breaks. 4. Depending on a country you may or may not be forced to drive a manual during learning and the tests for driver's license
was hoping he'd say something I didn't know, but everything he said is common sense to anyone who knows even the basics of what a clutch and gearbox do
About the last part: some cars (like my Accord) almost always won't let you select 1st unless you're completely stopped, so I have to use 2nd if I'm going 5 miles an hour.
I instantly saw the title and got reminded to what my instructor told me on my last lesson - she said “ideally you’re allowed to skip gears when it’s appropriate, such as entering a highway where u need to match the speed of traffic as quick as possible, as long as u get the right amount of RPM for a specific gear”
To sum up the video; Don't down-shift on a car you don't know the typical rpm for each gear. So, not on a brand new car and not on a car you are borrowing. And for upshifting, don't do it up a hill
Well you don't need to know the exact RPM for each gear. All you need to do is be close. Lets say you are in 4th going 35mph, the RPMs are at around 1800. You decide to downshift into 2nd. The required RPMs for second at 35mph are around 4200. You don't rev match and instead use the clutch to speed up the engine. That is bad. Say you're smart enough to blip the throttle and it revs to 3800. You are only using the clutch to speed up the engine 400 RPM. Not great you'll feel it but it is still acceptable. Even if you over shoot it say you rev to 4600. It takes less energy to slow down the engine than speed it up. The point is you can safely rev match a new to you vehicle. You can typically get a feel for the RPM difference between gears the first time you go through them, the rest is fine tuning. My point being, as long as you are in the RPM ball park for a gear you are dramatically reducing the wear on the clutch.
Anyone else have a funny step in their gears? 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 4 to 5, and 5 to 6 have the same amount of RPM drop from one to the next, but 3 to 4 is about half as much RPM drop which totally fucks up the rhythm. '12 Honda Cr-Z
Short answer: Yes. It's okay. Just make sure you have enough speed, otherwise you'll stall the car. Same goes for going high to low. Make sure you've slowed down enough or your revs are low enough otherwise you might damage the engine.
and knowing what speed/rpm your higher gear will cause a downshift skip to be at as over revving happens a lot more than people think due to this being done
it`s not. Try to shift from 1st into 4th gear in a H3 3.7 Manual. It`s not possible, the gearbox makes horrible noises. From 1st to 3rd or from 2nd to 4th works fine. This guy has no clue what he is talking about. Also shame on me for buying a murican car, never ever again!
I have a hard time going from my 18 speed Peterbilt to my Suzuki XL7 5 speed because I float gears all day long then try to get in my POV and "forget" to clutch between gears lol. Can still float the XL7 but have to wait a lot longer between shifts. It's more like a 1500 rpm drop instead of 250
When I get tailgated I can put my transmission into neutral and put the stick barely in the Reverse slot without putting it into gear where my reverse lights will turn on. It scares them lol.
I would be way too scared to do that with my car. The best way I have found to discourage tailgaters is to turn on my windshield washers, they back off real quick then!
I've been driving a manual for a couple years now as my first car, and I've always wondered about skipping gears but always forgot to ask, so I'm glad I found your video! The answer was pretty much what I expected it to be but it's nice to have confirmation.
When shifting down, we also have to be carefull not to over-rev, that is, going over the engine revolution limit, risking damaging the valves and pistons.
I once drove a car that only had 3 working gears. Had to go from 1st to 3rd and 3rd to 5th. Quite an interesting way to drive haha. Oh and in 3rd you had to hold it in or it would pop out.
My first several cars had only three gears forward, period, except for the throttle-activated planetary overdrive on the Studebaker, the Rambler, and the Galaxie.
The synchros were worn out... you may have been able to shift in to any gear you wanted if you double clutched... I has a transmission in a 1949 Chevy Coupe that had no synchros and you had to double clutch every single time in order to shift in to any gear.
What I've learned from your videos is doing anything to your car is bad, because they don't last forever and are supposed to break. Even washing your car is bad because you depreciate the clear coat and eventually expose the base coat then rust:/ Nobody would buy new cars if they lasted forever.
Ok, to be honest, you are right. But then there was my grandfather, taking so much care for his car. On the 20th year, the paint still looked like new and the maintenances (he didn´t do them himself) were always done on time when the manufacturer recommended. Would be still running around if anyone would have wanted it. It was a shitty 70cv VW Vento from 1994
This. I unsubscribed from him when he started doing these videos. I wanted to see unique and interesting things I didn't know about, explained by a certified Engineer in layman's terms, not "top 10 things you do everyday that are going to give you cancer (arrows and circles)".
In the US they're not that common. The place i've seen a fair amount of cars that are manual are cars at my local high school, as they're cheaper here (people think it takes too much effort to drive manual I guess) and parents snap those cheap cars up, thus their kids drive in manual cars. It's almost a shame, as my first car is a standard and driving it isn't hard once you get the hang of the car and where to shift.
It is quite uncommon here unless you are after a sports car. I just purchased a new 2017 Nissan Frontier and had to wait 8 weeks while it was on order. The closest one to me in the trim package I wanted was almost 400 miles away, and I still would have had to make some compromises on options I wanted. There basically aren't any new full size truck options that can get you a manual transmission(no Fords, Nissans, Toyotas, a couple Ram 2500s starting at $40,000, and no Chevys). Mid-size trucks like the Frontier, Tacoma, Colorado, and Canyon do offer them, but they are often very limited in the configurations you can get them in. Cars give much better options on them, but you are typically forced to special order them unless you are going for a low-end econobox or a sports car. The sports cars are often able to be found with manual transmissions for the driving experience, and the econoboxes offer them simply for low cost.
Been driving a tractor, that has no synchronization in the gearbox, so upshifting and downshifting on the go is an art (doing it with no grinding noises when shifting).
If you know the car and the street it definitely makes sense, especially on a decline. I live in a very hilly area and I'm going from 2nd to 4th or 3rd to 5th all the time to get up to speed and then slowly rolling down the hill on low rpm. Also when overtaking trucks, getting up to like 80 km/h in 3rd, then changing into 6th to keep cruising.
I learned how to drive standard using the neutral trick. I don't climb gears or descend them necessarily. I throw it in neutral then depending on the feel of the car/rpm's put it into the proper gear. Sometimes it's the next one up or down, sometimes it skips one in either direction, it really all just depends on the car. Sometimes I just let it coast in neutral for a while. You get a feel for it and kind of do it intuitively after a while.
Great insights, your overviews rock. I have a 2001 Honda Civic EX Vtec manual. Has 250,000 miles on it. After all these years, I have downshifted occasionally, skipped gears if needed, and upshifted quickly. This car has handled like a sports car on all the major grades of the west, for example: Tehachapi Pass. The clutch has never been touched (nor has engine), works as new. I feel with prudence, and in a well designed vehicle, all will be well, just enjoy your ride.
I just wish I could buy a 2004 Renault Twingo with all the extras. Used of course but I could go camping with that mini car, has enough space for sleeping for a fat guy like me even. That is my wish from life yet that car type is near extinction due to rusting in my country, which is sad.
+kenny simpelaar No, UK cars are better. Right-hand drive is conclusively proven to be safer for everyone than left-hand drive (look it up if you don't believe me!).
no is the opposite because right eye have wider sight of line if you drive on the left side and right eye is dominant over the left eye. and who said that you cant drive with right hand in a left side car? i switch from right hand to left hand only for change gears
The higher the number, the less the engine is turning (and thus less fuel consumption and engine wear). So when going from 2nd to 4th gear, you're making the engine work less, thus "going down" as far as engine revolutions is concerned.
Yes. In fact it's advised going down the box and up, especially if you use a low gear to get to speed and then select a higher one to maintain it. Unnecessary changes are distracting and increase driver work load to no benefit.
It's completely normal to skip shift. I drive a semi-tractor trailer truck and skip shifting and rev matching is normal. I don't skip shift up very frequently but I skip shift down shifts if I'm bobtail or light. Besides, you have to rev match because there are no synchronizers in heavy duty transmissions. :)
I had a 1995 Golf with a 5 speed manual transmission. I used to skip 3rd to 5th after getting up to speed. The neutral safety switch didn't work, so I would sometimes start the car while in gear to get out of a sticky spot. In heavy traffic I would idle with the transmission in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th gear. It is amazing how much torque you get from a diesel engine.
I find skipping gears most useful in hilly area. If you are starting the near near the top of a hill in 1st gear, and the road quickly starts to head down hill, I typically shift from 1st to 3rd and skip 2nd because the car pick up speed so much faster.
I actually shifted from fifth to second gear when i drove on the Autobahn the first time in my driving school. My instructor really wasnt happy, but the car was fine.
Look up on youtube from 3rd or 4th gear to Reverse and show to your instructor maybe he will be extra mad later... what will happened to car if you downshift from 5th to 3rd? i was doing from 5th to 2nd gear with balancing the rev that makes no problem to car you just adjust
My ZX3 Focus lost the ability to shift into 1st or 2nd. Went 5-2, on accident and it made a large pop sound, Reverse, 3rd, 4th, and 5th all still worked! I hated driving it around, starting in 3rd everywhere I had to go. Miss that car.
I´m from Germany and I´m mostly driving manual cars and by shifting down from 4th to 2nd for example you definetely do not need to rev match while downshifting. Like mentioned, it could be better for the clutch but i´ve never heard about locking up the driven wheels and this has never ever happened to me before and I did own a manual Nissan 370Z with around 540hp and while driving fast on curvy roads this does not happen because of skipping gears.
You need to be at least little gentle on the clutch, if you release it instantenously it can be bad but if you are little gentle as you release it, it should be fairly smooth transition.
Netandycz: Anyone who learned to drive properly in a manual knows not to release a clutch instantaneously when changing down, but to do it smoothly. I've driven manual cars for over 40 years, skipping gears frequently, and never damaged a clutch yet.
Alan J, I've been driving manual cars for almost 8 years. I put almost 60,000 miles on a MINI Cooper with a manual. I skipped gears all the time. It NEVER had clutch problems. Everyone saying you should never ever skip gears is following ancient advice. Manual transmissions have changed somewhat over the last few decades. In fact, my VW has a gear change indicator on the dash board. If I'm very slowly accelerating to 70 kmh, the indicator flashes a 2-4, meaning skip third gear. If I go farther up to say 100 kmh, it flashes 4-6. If I push the gas pedal hard, it says 4-5 then 5-6. I know how to rev match but my car has never had transmission problems of any kind.
I will sometimes start in 2nd gear from a standstill if I'm going downhill and can't accelerate anyway (usually due to dense traffic). There's really no point going into 1st gear if you can just start rolling forward and gently ease it into low RPM 2nd gear.
I used to shift 1 2 5 in my 87 Accord because it realy needed the revs to accelerate, but 2nd was good for about 55MPH, so around town I could get done shifting sooner. 5th to 3rd was common, and 1235 was common when getting on the highway. One trick I sometimes did was to brake and corner down to about 50 or 20, then drop it into 2nd or 1st. The extreme engine braking would cause the tail to kick out (because FWD), then floor it when the car was pointing the right way. I could make a 0-point U-turn on a two lane street this way. It was not quite stock. I had a center force clutch, Jackson Racing struts, brembo rotors and performance friction pads. Oh yeah, Yokohama AVS A+4 tires. But the engine and transmission were stock, as were the rear brakes which seemed to have been just along for the ride because the linings were still fine at 250k miles. I think I changed about 8 clutches, 5 sets of half-shafts, more sets of front brake pads that I care to remember and at least 5 or 6 sets of tires. I thrashed that car and it only failed to get me where I was going 3 times. I lost a water pump at about 20k, a battery at about 2 years, and a radiator exploded at about 175k.
I have a german driving license and my driving teacher even explicitly told me to skip gears in some cases, for example when gaining speed to enter the highway. Build up speed in 3rd and then just skip to 5/6.
likahmac I have a '17 SS and a guy was talking to me about mine. He said a buddy of his had one also and was about to take it back because "when trying to race he can't shift into second". I jut laughed and said he's not racing very well because it only locks you out on slow speed in first.
You know I thought about this one. I generally don't skip gears on the upshift. My thinking, although may be completely wrong, is I want the synchros to wear evenly. I feel like I've driven a used manual before where the previous driver always skipped 2nd gear when shifting from 1st going directly to 3rd. It seemed like it was always harder to shift into second because of this. Again I may be completely wrong on this. On the downshift, for example skipping from 6th to 4th I always double clutch. Again, I feel like I'm saving the wear and tear on the synchros. What you think?
So if you're done accelerating in 2nd gear and you want to shift to 5th gear for cruise, you go through 3rd and 4th gear before putting it in 5th gear and release the clutch?
I missed the technical explenation, so here is mine. In the gearbox all gear pairs always interlock, with the gears on the output shaft free to rotate around the output axis. They rotate along with the gears on the input shaft. Gear engagement is done by connecting one of the gears to its own shaft. This connection is made with a connector which is pushed between shaft and gear wheel with a shift fork, creating a fixed connection between input shaft and the relevant gear wheel. The shift fork is operated directly by the gear lever. When shifting from first to second gear, a series of events take place. 1. Using the clutch the engine is disconnected from the inputshaft. 2. Deselect first gear disconnects the inputshaft from the outputshaft. The inputshaft is still spinning in firstgear speed due to inertia, but disconnected on both ends. 3. By selecting second gear the second connector presses against its synchromeshring (basically a conical friction coupling), which forces the inputshaft and al gearwheels to slow down to the speed of second gear. 4. When the rotational speeds of both axes are synchronised according to second gear ratio, the second gear connector can easily connect output shaft to gearwheel, thus connect inputshaft to outputshaft. 5. Releasing the cluth connects engine and inputshaft, forcing them to turn in the same rotational speed. So, in step 3, the larger the difference between consecutive selected gears, the more rotational speed difference of the inputshaft the synchromeshring has to slow down, thus potentially a bit more wear on these rings.
Martin Liyali you can actually safely change gears in a car without using the clutch. You just have to be very careful and precise with the rev matching
when this vid first started I thought I was hurting my civic when I'm on this road to my house going 55 in 5th gear and I put it in neutral and then put it in second for this turn but then he said you're good if you rev match so I'm good xD
I'd love to see them try it with my wide ratio 4 speed and 2.73 rear gear lol. Shifting at 5500rpm. 1st did 50mph, 2nd 90mph, 3rd 150mph, 4th??? Who knows?
Bought my 2017 BRZ back in Nov '21 and it would be both my first manual and "I bought it on my own" car. Even though my grandpa taught me how to drive stick, neither of us knew where each gear was. We assumed that the indicator on the gear shifter meant Up was one, down was two and so on. Instead of Left-Up was One (and reverse) and Left-Down was two. For one to two weeks I couldn't understand why I struggled so much with Stop-and-Go movement without stalling the car (because I was actually starting the car in third gear). Months later, with better understanding and actually knowing the gears, I always wondered how much damage I did to the clutch starting the damn car in third. Besides the obvious wear on the clutch, thank you for answering that question.
I would skip (1,3,5) in testing for my case (92 Bronco, 5.0) for if it would help fuel mileage wise. Found out it was better to stick with short shifting through all the gears instead for fuel mileage as it made about 0.5-1.0 mpg difference (short distance driving at around 11-12mpg overall). Downshifting (since 5 speed) for braking purposes was always better to just skip 4th since the gear ratios were close enough to not make any difference in slowing me down, or to skip to 3rd to accelerate faster in order to pass someone.
I drive my manual civic all winter. Starting in second for icy conditions is fine, as it helps your car hook up; even starting in third is ok if you have enough ice. But, you don’t want your car to hook up on fair ground then bind, as it will stall or worse. You don’t want to be trying to get traction over the same patch of snow once you have spun out, as it has already turned to ice. my grandfather always said fore wheel drive only gets you feather in the ditch, and that’s true philosophically. know the limits of your car.
In the UK automatic is the rare one so we learn about this from our instructors, including pulling away in 2nd downhill and leaving the car in 1st/reverse with your wheel locked toward the curb as a backup to the handbreak on a very steep hill.
What about wear on the synchros? I was told that skipping gears puts additional stress on the synchros and thus one should work through the gears instead of skipping gears when downshifting. This is particularly applicable to track driving, where you on a long strait and the are hard on the brakes and need to drop 2 gears (e.g. 4th to 2nd).
Disengaging the clutch separates the engine from the transmission. But remember the transmission gearset is spinning at road speed. I believe if you skip a gear (again 4 to 2) you are putting additional stress on the 2nd gear synchros to spin up the input shaft to that speed. If instead you went 4,3,2, I have been told that the intermediate 3rd gear selection will help distribute the load on the synchros (less shock than going 4 to 2) and thus less wear and heat. This makes sense to me, but I don't know if there's appreciable load differences and wear between these two methods, or if it's more just theoretical. Obviously this assumes we are perfectly rev matching the final 2nd gear selection before reengaging the clutch.
twinscrew928 Fair point, I would presume you're right because something always has to catch up with the road speed. Synchros engage so well though, id bet the loads are very close
Prich038 rev matching doesn't affect synchro use unless you double clutch to bring up or bring down the speed of the clutch disk before making your gear selection. Rev matching is for matching engine / flywheel speed to the next assumed gear, the clutch is still disengaged so any rpm changes don't affect the clutch speed. Double clutching is WAY too much work, and synchro wear is slim anyways so I still skip gears, but keeping in mind that rev matching is purely for my comfort and reduced clutch wear. Sorry for the worst reply.
Hey Jason, KUDOS on the whole massive thing you're doing. You're really gifted in your ability to understand, and your ability to create understanding in others (i.e. "teach"). THANK YOU!!
My first car was 3 on the tree column shift manual . Trying to perfect my boy racer gear changes I ran to max revs in first and flat shifted straight into reverse . The car stopped so fast it felt like I hit a tree . Luckily I did have the sense to have my seatbelt on .I had a bruise across my shoulder for weeks . The poor car , a 62 falcon never recovered , the engine and gearbox were ripped off the mounting and the fan went through the radiator . All part of the fun of learning . That was 40 years ago , my driving has slightly improved .
Modern V8s make so much power so low that you can usually take off in 1st without using the throttle at all. In second, you can take off the same as you would in a normal I4.
It's nothing to do with power and everything to do with modern engines having good idle control. I have to drive all sorts of cars for work, and even a 1.0L 3-cylinder shitter that was built 10 years ago will pull away (slowly) in first gear without using any throttle.
When I was first learning to drive, my instructor told me that I should always block shift into a lower gear, since going down the gears one by one during the test increases the chance of getting marked down for downshifting too early, but then when I started practicing in my mum’s car between lessons, she told me that she’d been taught to do the opposite because constantly slowing down in a high gear wears out the footbrake. Apparently, modern cars are designed to be slowed down on the footbrake alone, which wasn’t the case back when my mum was a learner in the 80s, but once I had my licence, I heeded her advice anyway, since I actually find timing 2 or 3 sequential shifts correctly easier than timing 1 block shift correctly.
Well engine braking does save on brake pad wear but puts the braking force / heat into the gears (as the energy has to be lost in order to slow down) I quite often shift from 6th at 51kmh to 3rd when driving around town when I want to start slowing down in my 2014 manual Mazda 3
@@angelgjr1999 Yeah, it is even better because the cluch has to do less than normaly, it feels smoother and the engine doesnt get a punch while releasing the cluch. Sorry for bad English, I am from Germany
@@jonas1205 i always rev match in my miata, drive it every day to work. Mostly do it beacuse how fun and satisfying it is to shift smoothly. Saving my clutch is just a bonus 😃 //swedish miata driver
+xXF Although pressing the clutch has an effect of slowing down the car, I press the clutch (slightly) not to slower down but to prevent stalling when car is moving (very) slowly
That forcing into 4th thing is on the manual Challengers as well. There's a skip shift eliminator you can get that plugs in between the harness and the trans to do away with it without throwing any codes.
On down shifting easier to Rev match by double de clutching. In snow was taught to pull away in 2nd to use the torque of the engine with less revs to help prevent wheel spin
The irony as the automatic semi wasn't even made in the USA. You realize how many truck drivers are in the USA right lol. Not to mention there are still manual transmission still being made in North America.
Terrance Gillard yea but In Europe the basic rentals are all standard, here in the US you won’t ever see a manual rental unless it’s a performance rental and sometimes not even then. People here don’t drive stick.
Some additional things to think about! First off, obviously you should never downshift if it means exceeding your engine's redline. Also, skipping gears will put an additional strain on your synchronizers, especially for downshifts. Not that double-clutching is required these days (though if done properly, it will save your synchros), but it can help for getting into first gear if you're moving. If you're traveling at say 15 mph/25km/h, and want to be in first, generally the transmission will prevent you from doing so. Let the clutch out, pop the revs up, then clutch in and shift to first - this will often work. Generally not necessary for getting into other gears, again, that's why synchros exist is to ease and allow for that transition. Hope everyone's having a great day!
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I actually came here specifically to say that, about the synchro wear. Going from 5 to 3rd to pass or for a hill is a lot of the reason that the NV4500 will fail the 3rd gear synchro first. Same deal for the second gear on like the Cruze, where people go from 6th down to 2nd for a corner. Worse on the ECO wide ratio trans.
The Cruze has a horrible manual transmission. I hated mine with a passion and after not being able to sell it for months, I took a $3k hit to trade it out.
Short answer, as long you are carefull only wear and tear is the danger...
27Zangle it's fine to drive ('11 eco 1.4t 6MT), but at the end of the day, it's a wide ratio trans that was designed/built with synchros for "normal" ratios, so wear is an issue... I mean, it trashes stock synthetic fluid in 20-30k miles, and should change even amsoil fluid every 50-60k.
Engineering Explained that is the thing though. People, including you, will shift down AND THEN bring the revvs up to match the speed of the drivetrain. You should actually start the rev-match when going out of the higher gear and keep the revs matched as you enter the lower gear and de-clutch.
I like going from 6 to R ( rocket mode )
Mii too
Race mode
lol roasted
You mean Rally Gear?
Racing!
I usually stay in neutral and push the car and get in.. So I can save fuel
Nice little workout too 💪
@@AnonYmous-iz6wl exactly saves your money and your health
IT'S ALL ABOUT SAVING, PEOPLE.
Kollam fury spotted
I don't even sit in the car. I put car in neutral and push it all the way to destination. Zero fuel consumption.👌
Spoiler ahead: Yes, it's okay.
Thank you
Thanks
Saved me 6 minutes 😂🙏
Thx bud
ofcourse it is honestly i end up doing it every day i have a big ass hill in my yard so i just go into 3rd at the bottom of it because im alcready going 30 mph which is a bit high for my 2nd
I love going from 5th to 3rd gear in a smooth transition when exiting the highway, the most satisfying feeling ever ☺
Same here lol
I love going from 6th to R gear on highway (R= rally mode)
I can think of at least 6 more satisfying feelings.
Or going from 5th gear to 3rd gear to pass a vehicle in a single-lane highway.
Yup 🤷
manual transmission, probably the best anti theft car equipement in us
Tony x that's rite
i cant like you more than once my friend...
excellent humor...!!!
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I heard of a guy who was forced out of his car by gun point and the thief got in, but couldn't drive stick so he took off.
Tony, you have no idea how true that is.... :D
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I like going from 1 to 6, because that's good for saving fuel!
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Kelvin Klein are you discriminating against a kekistanian you racist.
Pepe - On a very steep downhill you can go from 1 to 6 and take easy on the gas so it won't put much pressure on the engine and drivetrain. But if you do that on a flat or uphill then you will mess up your car
I don't get those guys complaining like "Just say yes" ... I mean what's the point of watching videos from "Engineering EXPLAINED" if you don't want the explanation ?
Thanks Nico! :)
Actualy the comments I have seen like that literaly said "make a 3s vid and say yes" and nothing more so they really are not "like you" and do have not the same argument and thinking way than you, that was to those people I was refering (Sorry for the poor english btw)
Tho I think I can get your disapointment about videos like this made for most of common people when you already have good subject knowledge, I personally do not even have my license so I learned a lot just by curiosity with this one ^^ Plus there is a few more details in description and comment posted by the owner you might like, just saying :)
I believe everywhere in Europe you have to take driving test with manual gearshift. And same as this guy from Denmark , we in Croatia also have to do a "first aid test" (which teaches you how to immobilize broken bones, perform cpr, stop bleeding, how to treat acid burns from car batteries etc...).
You could also say,
*'I'm triggered'*
would save us time reading this nonsens
sixfootten thanks for your explanation.
the short explanation is
it was viewersb8
4th to 2nd is so much of my life haha. Especially where I live. There’s no point to go to 3rd before a turn often.
I've been skipping gears for decades without issue. It's certainly something you want to do after you've driven the car for a while and have a feel for the ratios of each gear. Every car is going to take time to get that feel, especially for rev matching.
Me going full throttle in 2nd gear then skip all the way to 6th to cruise :P
I used to do that on my old renault hatchback cuz the third was so short it rarely was worth using lol
@@thesolidsnek8096 I own a 50cc bike and my first gear is so short that I would have to shift before even turning during an intersection.
Yeah, i usually start with first into second and then from second to fourth if i immeadiatly get on a road with a speed around 40 mph.
@@DustGamezX same
i like going from 6 to r (race mode)
That'll destroy da transmission
The TeddyBear rocket mode
Lols no it wont. There is a wall while moving that wont let you shift to race mode, Those bastards are saving the fun for themselves
I've been debating this in my race machine (Honda Civic), but I'm not sure these streets can handle the power. Is it worth?
Me too I go from 5th to P for pass
This has taught me more than I could ask for. Really happy to learn about such things without having to go through a rough experience to learn it the hard way.
Americans be like "lol what's a gear"
Lol
I only know Top Gear bro
And what makes you say that, don't believe any Americans race? Or actually drive manual transmission?
Auto pilot is almost here.
Lol
Spoiler: u cant skip leg day
Have leg day today, thanks for reminding me :(
you can... you wont die, you'll just be a bit top heavy.
Josip, its gonna make standing on your head way easier.
Ice ZnX maybe you cant coz u merican..
ok /fit/
"2nd DOWN to 4th" You're confusing me.
Ok 2 then longtiditudually south towards the rear of the vehicle towards 6 o clock into 4th
Edit probly confused you more with the 6 o clock
I know I’m super late, but he was saying down in reference to the engine revs, not the gear itself.
It was poor choice of words. He said both "2nd down to 4th" and "4th down to 2nd".
@@gwcrispiyeah that was super confusing
I know it might not be as common in the US because most of the places where you drive are pretty flat, but I was taught here in Colombia that if you're going to start from a standstill, and you're gonna be going downhill, you can start from second and even third gear, because the hill will help you with the rest, and you won't really be wearing the clutch.
Yep, on declines, especially if steep, makes it easy to start in second. Simply letting off the brake means you start rolling, and get up to a speed where letting out the clutch is no problem.
Engineering Explained 2nd is useful on snowy roads aswell..
This is also how you start a manual transmission car if the car starter is broken or your battery(on diesel cars only) is dead.
bios47 works on gassers also
Engineering Explained
Is a manual truly more fuel efficient vs auto?
One more tip on upshift skip gears. Be sure to bring your RPMs a little higher first before skipping gears, you do not want your RPMs to be too low either because you might risk lugging the engine.
Question- more fuel efficient to- A) Floor it from zero to speed limit, then cruise or B) Slowly accelerate until the speed limit, then cruise?
Im interested in that question too! I think B is slightly more efficient.
Zachary Garcia I've read in instruction manuals of several cars to never floor the gas. I'm pretty sure the best way is to try and get the speed up as fast as your car can manage without flooring since it saves the most gas.
Please answer this!
High acceleration to reach speed limit is more fuel efficient than slowly accelerating up to speed.
its B. There is a reason why the prius and other hybrid cars want you to accelerate slow.
I like going from 6 to N (nitrous mode)
HoeLeeFuQQ *nitrous mode*
Gas mode
I prefer 6 to R (race mode)
Thuarakan SJY lmao 😂😂😂😂😂👍🏽
HoeLeeFuQQ i prefer 6 to P ( Power )
Rev matching is something i learned in my first month of manual ownership... i miss having a manual. But my options were a 6 speed rio with 6% interest or an automatic soul with 0.99% interest. Went with the money saving option
Kia? Sad
Souls are kinda fun in their own goofy kinda way
Why would you want a manual? Way easier to drive automatic.
@@hamyzschidenfeld3215More control of vehicle
@@hamyzschidenfeld3215 Many reasons:
1. Manual gives you more control
2. manual actually is more efficient to drive (automatic transmission is heavier than manual aka the car will be heavier and use more gas)
3. Manual transmission is way easier and cheaper to fix if it breaks.
4. Depending on a country you may or may not be forced to drive a manual during learning and the tests for driver's license
Thief: nice car! Lets get it
Manual transmission: *are you sure about that*
I read the second part in John Cena's voice. 🤣🤣🤣
@@CrestedSaguaro520 same
You say that but the guy stealing your car draves that beat up 94 manual honda accord
@@EpicTacoSenpai hmm.. drave?
Let me put it in race mode just in case the cops get called
Short answer,
*well.* *_yes_* but actually *_no_*
was hoping he'd say something I didn't know, but everything he said is common sense to anyone who knows even the basics of what a clutch and gearbox do
Wrong. It is okay.
@@_-Anthony-_ depends, sometimes it can be bad to skip a gear, But if you are cruising and you go to N and then to 2nd after a while then thats fine
When can it be bad then?
About the last part: some cars (like my Accord) almost always won't let you select 1st unless you're completely stopped, so I have to use 2nd if I'm going 5 miles an hour.
Dell0304 my civic si does the same thing
Yeah, my old Mitsubishi Eclipse was the same way too.
Dell0304 thank you ive been wondering about that im going to drive a manual soon
yes the car will roll without any input until the gas runs out in second gear, if it's flat at least.
My Mazda rx8 will let me but i have to give a good amount of force to enter first gear under 5mph. So i just use 2nd most of the time.
I instantly saw the title and got reminded to what my instructor told me on my last lesson - she said “ideally you’re allowed to skip gears when it’s appropriate, such as entering a highway where u need to match the speed of traffic as quick as possible, as long as u get the right amount of RPM for a specific gear”
To sum up the video; Don't down-shift on a car you don't know the typical rpm for each gear. So, not on a brand new car and not on a car you are borrowing.
And for upshifting, don't do it up a hill
Sigmund Trutt How are you gonna drive without downshifting? And same for shifting uphill?
Wiikendz I think he meant don't skip gears when downshifting
Jacob Greenway Doesnt work that way either, people who drive manuals will know.
Well you don't need to know the exact RPM for each gear. All you need to do is be close. Lets say you are in 4th going 35mph, the RPMs are at around 1800. You decide to downshift into 2nd. The required RPMs for second at 35mph are around 4200. You don't rev match and instead use the clutch to speed up the engine. That is bad. Say you're smart enough to blip the throttle and it revs to 3800. You are only using the clutch to speed up the engine 400 RPM. Not great you'll feel it but it is still acceptable. Even if you over shoot it say you rev to 4600. It takes less energy to slow down the engine than speed it up. The point is you can safely rev match a new to you vehicle. You can typically get a feel for the RPM difference between gears the first time you go through them, the rest is fine tuning. My point being, as long as you are in the RPM ball park for a gear you are dramatically reducing the wear on the clutch.
Anyone else have a funny step in their gears? 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 4 to 5, and 5 to 6 have the same amount of RPM drop from one to the next, but 3 to 4 is about half as much RPM drop which totally fucks up the rhythm. '12 Honda Cr-Z
Short answer:
Yes. It's okay. Just make sure you have enough speed, otherwise you'll stall the car.
Same goes for going high to low. Make sure you've slowed down enough or your revs are low enough otherwise you might damage the engine.
Unless Its a rental car, then you can shift from 5th down to first. The engine will brake. The engine will also break.
it's all about clutch play and rpm matching great video
;>
Exactly.
and knowing what speed/rpm your higher gear will cause a downshift skip to be at as over revving happens a lot more than people think due to this being done
Take a shot each time he’s says clutch wear
it`s not. Try to shift from 1st into 4th gear in a H3 3.7 Manual. It`s not possible, the gearbox makes horrible noises.
From 1st to 3rd or from 2nd to 4th works fine. This guy has no clue what he is talking about.
Also shame on me for buying a murican car, never ever again!
I drive an 18 speed Roadranger - I skip 5 at a time.
Ha, nice!
I have a hard time going from my 18 speed Peterbilt to my Suzuki XL7 5 speed because I float gears all day long then try to get in my POV and "forget" to clutch between gears lol. Can still float the XL7 but have to wait a lot longer between shifts. It's more like a 1500 rpm drop instead of 250
@@veteranheavyequipmechanic4990 i float my car and pickup..just used to doing it that way..
Skip without the clutch
which ones?
When I get tailgated I can put my transmission into neutral and put the stick barely in the Reverse slot without putting it into gear where my reverse lights will turn on. It scares them lol.
I would be way too scared to do that with my car. The best way I have found to discourage tailgaters is to turn on my windshield washers, they back off real quick then!
Proud American you're like 12, stop
One love
I flip the smoke switch in my diesel and give them a big black cloud of cancer.
OR... You could get out of that lane and let the faster traffic through! Geez...some drivers out there...
I've been driving a manual for a couple years now as my first car, and I've always wondered about skipping gears but always forgot to ask, so I'm glad I found your video! The answer was pretty much what I expected it to be but it's nice to have confirmation.
When shifting down, we also have to be carefull not to over-rev, that is, going over the engine revolution limit, risking damaging the valves and pistons.
In short keep on that clutch for a few seconds before lifting it out
I once drove a car that only had 3 working gears. Had to go from 1st to 3rd and 3rd to 5th. Quite an interesting way to drive haha. Oh and in 3rd you had to hold it in or it would pop out.
Hahaha, love it. These are great experiences that give you a finer appreciation when you get into a manual that simply works as it's supposed to. :)
My first several cars had only three gears forward, period, except for the throttle-activated planetary overdrive on the Studebaker, the Rambler, and the Galaxie.
+Engineering Explained I once drove a Nissan Tsuru without 2nd gear. Had to go from 1st straight to 3rd haha.
Devin Stambolziovski the dodge neon only had a 3 speed transmission for the automatic. That is the last 3 speed that I'm aware of
The synchros were worn out... you may have been able to shift in to any gear you wanted if you double clutched... I has a transmission in a 1949 Chevy Coupe that had no synchros and you had to double clutch every single time in order to shift in to any gear.
What I've learned from your videos is doing anything to your car is bad, because they don't last forever and are supposed to break. Even washing your car is bad because you depreciate the clear coat and eventually expose the base coat then rust:/ Nobody would buy new cars if they lasted forever.
Ok, to be honest, you are right. But then there was my grandfather, taking so much care for his car. On the 20th year, the paint still looked like new and the maintenances (he didn´t do them himself) were always done on time when the manufacturer recommended. Would be still running around if anyone would have wanted it. It was a shitty 70cv VW Vento from 1994
David No cool story
One love
This. I unsubscribed from him when he started doing these videos. I wanted to see unique and interesting things I didn't know about, explained by a certified Engineer in layman's terms, not "top 10 things you do everyday that are going to give you cancer (arrows and circles)".
Raven Sharpless "This is a comment I've seen pop up in the comment section, so it's something I thought I should address". Can't please everyone dude.
Is that rare to drive a manual car in USA? In France it's very common
In the US they're not that common. The place i've seen a fair amount of cars that are manual are cars at my local high school, as they're cheaper here (people think it takes too much effort to drive manual I guess) and parents snap those cheap cars up, thus their kids drive in manual cars.
It's almost a shame, as my first car is a standard and driving it isn't hard once you get the hang of the car and where to shift.
It is quite uncommon here unless you are after a sports car. I just purchased a new 2017 Nissan Frontier and had to wait 8 weeks while it was on order. The closest one to me in the trim package I wanted was almost 400 miles away, and I still would have had to make some compromises on options I wanted. There basically aren't any new full size truck options that can get you a manual transmission(no Fords, Nissans, Toyotas, a couple Ram 2500s starting at $40,000, and no Chevys). Mid-size trucks like the Frontier, Tacoma, Colorado, and Canyon do offer them, but they are often very limited in the configurations you can get them in. Cars give much better options on them, but you are typically forced to special order them unless you are going for a low-end econobox or a sports car. The sports cars are often able to be found with manual transmissions for the driving experience, and the econoboxes offer them simply for low cost.
In US, Australia and UK people seem to drive automatic transmission, whereas the rest of the world drives manual.
Patricia Oudshoorn I'm from the UK and I know of almost no one who drives an automatic and if they do, it's on a luxury model.
Don't forget Canada. It seems only 'car guys', and gals know how to drive manual.
Been driving a tractor, that has no synchronization in the gearbox, so upshifting and downshifting on the go is an art (doing it with no grinding noises when shifting).
Yes, google the term “block gearing” i was taught to do that when I took my driving lessons
*but can you skip life?*
Azio Prism Asking the real question!
yes.,.. all you need is an exercise band ;)
That's called death, now go and try it!
☆better question☆:
Can you *skip those @holes* who will try to threaten you w/ their
..reckless impatience & ....
"If you downshift without rev matching, you might lock up the wheels." Makes me think of how I used to play Daytona USA in the arcades.
Tsuchia would call that "Shift Lock" drift initiation.
If you know the car and the street it definitely makes sense, especially on a decline.
I live in a very hilly area and I'm going from 2nd to 4th or 3rd to 5th all the time to get up to speed and then slowly rolling down the hill on low rpm.
Also when overtaking trucks, getting up to like 80 km/h in 3rd, then changing into 6th to keep cruising.
I learned how to drive standard using the neutral trick. I don't climb gears or descend them necessarily. I throw it in neutral then depending on the feel of the car/rpm's put it into the proper gear. Sometimes it's the next one up or down, sometimes it skips one in either direction, it really all just depends on the car. Sometimes I just let it coast in neutral for a while. You get a feel for it and kind of do it intuitively after a while.
Great insights, your overviews rock. I have a 2001 Honda Civic EX Vtec manual. Has 250,000 miles on it. After all these years, I have downshifted occasionally, skipped gears if needed, and upshifted quickly. This car has handled like a sports car on all the major grades of the west, for example: Tehachapi Pass. The clutch has never been touched (nor has engine), works as new. I feel with prudence, and in a well designed vehicle, all will be well, just enjoy your ride.
I just wish I could buy a 2004 Renault Twingo with all the extras. Used of course but I could go camping with that mini car, has enough space for sleeping for a fat guy like me even. That is my wish from life yet that car type is near extinction due to rusting in my country, which is sad.
This is all child's play in the UK - we don't really do automatics. If you have one, people wonder what's wrong with your left hand.
Im left handed so really enjoy driving manual, never even driven auto before.
I use my left hand for steering like the rest of europe. uk cars are weird.
+kenny simpelaar No, UK cars are better. Right-hand drive is conclusively proven to be safer for everyone than left-hand drive (look it up if you don't believe me!).
no is the opposite because right eye have wider sight of line if you drive on the left side and right eye is dominant over the left eye.
and who said that you cant drive with right hand in a left side car?
i switch from right hand to left hand only for change gears
Wider sight of line?? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about...
Why do you say go "down" from 2nd to 4rth gear. It's seems like you have your gears mixed up.
high rev down to low rev.
The higher the number, the less the engine is turning (and thus less fuel consumption and engine wear). So when going from 2nd to 4th gear, you're making the engine work less, thus "going down" as far as engine revolutions is concerned.
oneeyednarn was just about to type this lol
Thank you that confused the hell out of me
I thought he meant positionally. 2nd is "up" and 4th "down" (with the shifter). It made sense to me this way.
Yes. In fact it's advised going down the box and up, especially if you use a low gear to get to speed and then select a higher one to maintain it. Unnecessary changes are distracting and increase driver work load to no benefit.
It's completely normal to skip shift. I drive a semi-tractor trailer truck and skip shifting and rev matching is normal. I don't skip shift up very frequently but I skip shift down shifts if I'm bobtail or light. Besides, you have to rev match because there are no synchronizers in heavy duty transmissions. :)
Shock Diamond Dude manual trannys in semi trucks and cars are totally different. Its like comparing a low duty item with a heavy duty item.
Skip gear still ok .... some people skip breakfast, lunch and dinner ...
I had a 1995 Golf with a 5 speed manual transmission. I used to skip 3rd to 5th after getting up to speed. The neutral safety switch didn't work, so I would sometimes start the car while in gear to get out of a sticky spot. In heavy traffic I would idle with the transmission in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th gear. It is amazing how much torque you get from a diesel engine.
"Is It Okay To Skip Gears In A Manual Transmission?"
well.... is water wet?
Dextomus I don’t know
No
Actually, water isn't wet. Water makes something wet
You should’ve said “is it ok to breath two times in a row?”
I've heard its viscous
#7 on trending congrats!
Just unbelievable, this is so exciting!! :)
Lucas Nguyen My trending is full of stabbings in Turu lol
Just depends on engine Revs, if you know how to drive stick, you know when and where you can.
0:05 Going from 5th gear to 2nd gear? Lmao you have to do this after every sudden braking. What a silly question.
I find skipping gears most useful in hilly area. If you are starting the near near the top of a hill in 1st gear, and the road quickly starts to head down hill, I typically shift from 1st to 3rd and skip 2nd because the car pick up speed so much faster.
I live in a hill, after close the gate its almost 45°, no problems starting from 3rd gear.
I actually shifted from fifth to second gear when i drove on the Autobahn the first time in my driving school. My instructor really wasnt happy, but the car was fine.
Look up on youtube from 3rd or 4th gear to Reverse and show to your instructor maybe he will be extra mad later... what will happened to car if you downshift from 5th to 3rd? i was doing from 5th to 2nd gear with balancing the rev that makes no problem to car you just adjust
My ZX3 Focus lost the ability to shift into 1st or 2nd. Went 5-2, on accident and it made a large pop sound, Reverse, 3rd, 4th, and 5th all still worked! I hated driving it around, starting in 3rd everywhere I had to go. Miss that car.
I´m from Germany and I´m mostly driving manual cars and by shifting down from 4th to 2nd for example you definetely do not need to rev match while downshifting. Like mentioned, it could be better for the clutch but i´ve never heard about locking up the driven wheels and this has never ever happened to me before and I did own a manual Nissan 370Z with around 540hp and while driving fast on curvy roads this does not happen because of skipping gears.
You need to be at least little gentle on the clutch, if you release it instantenously it can be bad but if you are little gentle as you release it, it should be fairly smooth transition.
Or he have almost broken clutch :D
Netandycz: Anyone who learned to drive properly in a manual knows not to release a clutch instantaneously when changing down, but to do it smoothly. I've driven manual cars for over 40 years, skipping gears frequently, and never damaged a clutch yet.
Alan J, I've been driving manual cars for almost 8 years. I put almost 60,000 miles on a MINI Cooper with a manual. I skipped gears all the time. It NEVER had clutch problems. Everyone saying you should never ever skip gears is following ancient advice. Manual transmissions have changed somewhat over the last few decades. In fact, my VW has a gear change indicator on the dash board. If I'm very slowly accelerating to 70 kmh, the indicator flashes a 2-4, meaning skip third gear. If I go farther up to say 100 kmh, it flashes 4-6. If I push the gas pedal hard, it says 4-5 then 5-6. I know how to rev match but my car has never had transmission problems of any kind.
Mr. Smith ‘
I will sometimes start in 2nd gear from a standstill if I'm going downhill and can't accelerate anyway (usually due to dense traffic). There's really no point going into 1st gear if you can just start rolling forward and gently ease it into low RPM 2nd gear.
Me to but I need to rev abit more like 2k rpm or else my car will start bocking 😅
Once I was in 4th gear and wanted to shift to 5th, I accidentally shifted to reverse gear, a weird noise came. I hope I didn't damage the car.
Hahahahaha no mames
Grinding gears ⚙
I used to shift 1 2 5 in my 87 Accord because it realy needed the revs to accelerate, but 2nd was good for about 55MPH, so around town I could get done shifting sooner. 5th to 3rd was common, and 1235 was common when getting on the highway. One trick I sometimes did was to brake and corner down to about 50 or 20, then drop it into 2nd or 1st. The extreme engine braking would cause the tail to kick out (because FWD), then floor it when the car was pointing the right way. I could make a 0-point U-turn on a two lane street this way. It was not quite stock. I had a center force clutch, Jackson Racing struts, brembo rotors and performance friction pads. Oh yeah, Yokohama AVS A+4 tires. But the engine and transmission were stock, as were the rear brakes which seemed to have been just along for the ride because the linings were still fine at 250k miles. I think I changed about 8 clutches, 5 sets of half-shafts, more sets of front brake pads that I care to remember and at least 5 or 6 sets of tires. I thrashed that car and it only failed to get me where I was going 3 times. I lost a water pump at about 20k, a battery at about 2 years, and a radiator exploded at about 175k.
Excellent and properly explained video. I also had this doubt while I used to drive but now I'm aware of what to do! Great job!! 👍
If you can´t drive stick, you can´t drive at all.
Zi9makin6 😪😀
u can drive a auto smh
I have a german driving license and my driving teacher even explicitly told me to skip gears in some cases, for example when gaining speed to enter the highway. Build up speed in 3rd and then just skip to 5/6.
I have an ss and that gear skipping is annoying when it rarely happens. I'm kool with 13.8 mpg 😊
It's also a thing on older Camaros. My 95 Z28 has the gear skipping feature. Super annoying lol
likahmac I have a '17 SS and a guy was talking to me about mine. He said a buddy of his had one also and was about to take it back because "when trying to race he can't shift into second". I jut laughed and said he's not racing very well because it only locks you out on slow speed in first.
is it ok to have no gears
True definition of a manual,roll the car yourself
If it’s electric yes
I regularly skip from 3rd to 5th and 5th to 2nd if a prius is trying to show some performance
0:14 why does it look so goofy
Lol 😂
Lmaoooooo😂
You know I thought about this one. I generally don't skip gears on the upshift. My thinking, although may be completely wrong, is I want the synchros to wear evenly. I feel like I've driven a used manual before where the previous driver always skipped 2nd gear when shifting from 1st going directly to 3rd. It seemed like it was always harder to shift into second because of this. Again I may be completely wrong on this. On the downshift, for example skipping from 6th to 4th I always double clutch. Again, I feel like I'm saving the wear and tear on the synchros. What you think?
So if you're done accelerating in 2nd gear and you want to shift to 5th gear for cruise, you go through 3rd and 4th gear before putting it in 5th gear and release the clutch?
@svr5423 no way, I shift normally through every gear. 😅
Yes.
I missed the technical explenation, so here is mine.
In the gearbox all gear pairs always interlock, with the gears on the output shaft free to rotate around the output axis. They rotate along with the gears on the input shaft. Gear engagement is done by connecting one of the gears to its own shaft. This connection is made with a connector which is pushed between shaft and gear wheel with a shift fork, creating a fixed connection between input shaft and the relevant gear wheel. The shift fork is operated directly by the gear lever.
When shifting from first to second gear, a series of events take place. 1. Using the clutch the engine is disconnected from the inputshaft. 2. Deselect first gear disconnects the inputshaft from the outputshaft. The inputshaft is still spinning in firstgear speed due to inertia, but disconnected on both ends. 3. By selecting second gear the second connector presses against its synchromeshring (basically a conical friction coupling), which forces the inputshaft and al gearwheels to slow down to the speed of second gear. 4. When the rotational speeds of both axes are synchronised according to second gear ratio, the second gear connector can easily connect output shaft to gearwheel, thus connect inputshaft to outputshaft. 5. Releasing the cluth connects engine and inputshaft, forcing them to turn in the same rotational speed.
So, in step 3, the larger the difference between consecutive selected gears, the more rotational speed difference of the inputshaft the synchromeshring has to slow down, thus potentially a bit more wear on these rings.
With my Mazda 6 2.5L i can even change gears without using the clutch! As long as you drive Japanese you can do everything with your Gears!
Level- God
What kind of a car is dat one whr u can change gears without placing clutch no way🙅
Martin Liyali you can actually safely change gears in a car without using the clutch. You just have to be very careful and precise with the rev matching
I'm doing it with my Mazda 3 all the time, it's all about matching the revs, but you should be careful while doing it.
when this vid first started I thought I was hurting my civic when I'm on this road to my house going 55 in 5th gear and I put it in neutral and then put it in second for this turn but then he said you're good if you rev match so I'm good xD
It's called double-clutch. You seem to already have mastered it without even realizing that technique. Good.
This is taught in swedish driving school. You can fail if you dont skip gears and the test is highly enviromentally oriented.
I'd love to see them try it with my wide ratio 4 speed and 2.73 rear gear lol. Shifting at 5500rpm. 1st did 50mph, 2nd 90mph, 3rd 150mph, 4th??? Who knows?
Bought my 2017 BRZ back in Nov '21 and it would be both my first manual and "I bought it on my own" car. Even though my grandpa taught me how to drive stick, neither of us knew where each gear was. We assumed that the indicator on the gear shifter meant Up was one, down was two and so on. Instead of Left-Up was One (and reverse) and Left-Down was two. For one to two weeks I couldn't understand why I struggled so much with Stop-and-Go movement without stalling the car (because I was actually starting the car in third gear). Months later, with better understanding and actually knowing the gears, I always wondered how much damage I did to the clutch starting the damn car in third. Besides the obvious wear on the clutch, thank you for answering that question.
I would skip (1,3,5) in testing for my case (92 Bronco, 5.0) for if it would help fuel mileage wise. Found out it was better to stick with short shifting through all the gears instead for fuel mileage as it made about 0.5-1.0 mpg difference (short distance driving at around 11-12mpg overall). Downshifting (since 5 speed) for braking purposes was always better to just skip 4th since the gear ratios were close enough to not make any difference in slowing me down, or to skip to 3rd to accelerate faster in order to pass someone.
The wear and tear, Transmission synchronize shifting FROM gear to gear, in steps UP and down, professional Drivers practicing daily. 👍
Oh nice, i see your driving up to bogus :D. I totally live in boise and recognized it instantly
Dylan Colwell me too
I drive my manual civic all winter. Starting in second for icy conditions is fine, as it helps your car hook up; even starting in third is ok if you have enough ice. But, you don’t want your car to hook up on fair ground then bind, as it will stall or worse. You don’t want to be trying to get traction over the same patch of snow once you have spun out, as it has already turned to ice. my grandfather always said fore wheel drive only gets you feather in the ditch, and that’s true philosophically. know the limits of your car.
Americans: Mind blown
Everyone else: Learned that in driving school
In the UK automatic is the rare one so we learn about this from our instructors, including pulling away in 2nd downhill and leaving the car in 1st/reverse with your wheel locked toward the curb as a backup to the handbreak on a very steep hill.
What about wear on the synchros? I was told that skipping gears puts additional stress on the synchros and thus one should work through the gears instead of skipping gears when downshifting. This is particularly applicable to track driving, where you on a long strait and the are hard on the brakes and need to drop 2 gears (e.g. 4th to 2nd).
twinscrew928 as long as you're pushing the clutch in all the way, the synchros will engage just like normal
Disengaging the clutch separates the engine from the transmission. But remember the transmission gearset is spinning at road speed. I believe if you skip a gear (again 4 to 2) you are putting additional stress on the 2nd gear synchros to spin up the input shaft to that speed. If instead you went 4,3,2, I have been told that the intermediate 3rd gear selection will help distribute the load on the synchros (less shock than going 4 to 2) and thus less wear and heat. This makes sense to me, but I don't know if there's appreciable load differences and wear between these two methods, or if it's more just theoretical. Obviously this assumes we are perfectly rev matching the final 2nd gear selection before reengaging the clutch.
twinscrew928 Fair point, I would presume you're right because something always has to catch up with the road speed. Synchros engage so well though, id bet the loads are very close
Which is why you rev match
Prich038 rev matching doesn't affect synchro use unless you double clutch to bring up or bring down the speed of the clutch disk before making your gear selection. Rev matching is for matching engine / flywheel speed to the next assumed gear, the clutch is still disengaged so any rpm changes don't affect the clutch speed. Double clutching is WAY too much work, and synchro wear is slim anyways so I still skip gears, but keeping in mind that rev matching is purely for my comfort and reduced clutch wear. Sorry for the worst reply.
Hey Jason, KUDOS on the whole massive thing you're doing. You're really gifted in your ability to understand, and your ability to create understanding in others (i.e. "teach"). THANK YOU!!
The wheel lock is also a type of drifting called shift lock. Though to not blow up your timing system the clutch is pressed in if i remember
20% of people in America actually can drive a manual transmission....sad.
A Bottle Of Bleach I think you mean people in America.
A Bottle Of Bleach majority of people in the UK drive manual
95% of people in latin America use manual..
A Bottle Of Bleach it's like 90% manual in the uk
99% of people can't milk a goat. who cares? The majority of cars are automatic.
Yes you can skip, Just be a good driver.
I love how the seat looks like it hugs your body
My friend when from 100 mph to threw it on 3rd gear. Now tell me what you think happened ? 4 cylinder if wanted to know
Jose Ramirez Jesus Christ the sound that must have made
My first car was 3 on the tree column shift manual . Trying to perfect my boy racer gear changes I ran to max revs in first and flat shifted straight into reverse . The car stopped so fast it felt like I hit a tree . Luckily I did have the sense to have my seatbelt on .I had a bruise across my shoulder for weeks . The poor car , a 62 falcon never recovered , the engine and gearbox were ripped off the mounting and the fan went through the radiator . All part of the fun of learning . That was 40 years ago , my driving has slightly improved .
That's a good case scenario.The drive wheels could have locked and locking the drive wheels at 100mph may be the last thing you do.
Jose Ramirez I'm not a car person. What happened?
He money shifted and blew the engine. They call it a money shift because it pays your mechanics bills.
I only use first gear when I'm feeling spicy.... :)
Doesn't that kill the engine? I mean my car will reach 4000 RPM at 20MPH in 1st.
Modern V8s make so much power so low that you can usually take off in 1st without using the throttle at all. In second, you can take off the same as you would in a normal I4.
It's nothing to do with power and everything to do with modern engines having good idle control. I have to drive all sorts of cars for work, and even a 1.0L 3-cylinder shitter that was built 10 years ago will pull away (slowly) in first gear without using any throttle.
When I was first learning to drive, my instructor told me that I should always block shift into a lower gear, since going down the gears one by one during the test increases the chance of getting marked down for downshifting too early, but then when I started practicing in my mum’s car between lessons, she told me that she’d been taught to do the opposite because constantly slowing down in a high gear wears out the footbrake.
Apparently, modern cars are designed to be slowed down on the footbrake alone, which wasn’t the case back when my mum was a learner in the 80s, but once I had my licence, I heeded her advice anyway, since I actually find timing 2 or 3 sequential shifts correctly easier than timing 1 block shift correctly.
Well engine braking does save on brake pad wear but puts the braking force / heat into the gears (as the energy has to be lost in order to slow down)
I quite often shift from 6th at 51kmh to 3rd when driving around town when I want to start slowing down in my 2014 manual Mazda 3
Is it okay to rev match every gear when down shifting when daily driving
Idk bro I hope it’s okay I’ve been doing that.
@@angelgjr1999 Yeah, it is even better because the cluch has to do less than normaly, it feels smoother and the engine doesnt get a punch while releasing the cluch.
Sorry for bad English, I am from Germany
@@jonas1205 Das ist gud! Sorry for bad German 😂
@@angelgjr1999 XD
@@jonas1205 i always rev match in my miata, drive it every day to work. Mostly do it beacuse how fun and satisfying it is to shift smoothly. Saving my clutch is just a bonus 😃
//swedish miata driver
When you're about to shift into 6th gear instead drop it to 1st, that would be entertaining to watch.
Or just watch some ricers do a money shift from red light to red light.
The Mercedes-Benz S Class starts in 2nd when you put it in comfort mode to make taking off more smooth
Why does clutch+brake feel smoother while braking than simply the brake?
Oh and loved the video btw.
Sarthak Sharma Because when you apply just brake, the engine keeps on pushing. When you press the clutch, it disables power to the wheels.
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Although pressing the clutch has an effect of slowing down the car, I press the clutch (slightly) not to slower down but to prevent stalling when car is moving (very) slowly
and also if youre going to stop like behind another car in a rank or in a red light you can just clutch>neutral>release clutch>brake
Oh America... In Europe almost everyone knows answer.
Haha xD
I always go from 5th to 2nd when taking a U turn, it's really great feeling.
choose the 1th 3th 2th 5th 4th R gear for a cheat code to fly
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That forcing into 4th thing is on the manual Challengers as well. There's a skip shift eliminator you can get that plugs in between the harness and the trans to do away with it without throwing any codes.
i drift in 6th
When you are going from 6th to 4th just make sure you don't accidently put it into 2nd that really makes driving interesting.
everyone in europe knows how this works...i didnt even watch the vid haha
On down shifting easier to Rev match by double de clutching. In snow was taught to pull away in 2nd to use the torque of the engine with less revs to help prevent wheel spin
Best way to stop you car getting stolen in the USA, get a manual!
The irony as the automatic semi wasn't even made in the USA. You realize how many truck drivers are in the USA right lol. Not to mention there are still manual transmission still being made in North America.
Terrance Gillard yea but In Europe the basic rentals are all standard, here in the US you won’t ever see a manual rental unless it’s a performance rental and sometimes not even then. People here don’t drive stick.