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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- In 2001 more than 50 people threw themselves under tube trains. The staff at the London Underground call it a 'one-under,' and they have to deal with the fallout.
Summer 2002 was no easy feat for the people working on the tube, making sure day to day workings of the underground ran as smoothly as possible. From strikes to repairs, to world records, join us as we get to know the unsung heroes of the Tube.
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In Japan, they have started adding gates on the platform this prevents jumpers and people being pushed during rush hour.
The Jubilee line in London also has this. I'm not sure it would be possible to install gates on some of the old stations on the other lines of the London underground, as platforms are often quite narrow.
Thailand did this several years ago
One of the reasons why London Underground have not installed platform gates is because on curved platforms there is a risk that a passenger could fall between the platform and the train and become trapped. Lots of platforms on the tube have very large curves and a person could easily fall into the gap.
While the Jubilee Line extension and the new Elizabeth line has full height glass doors, the primary purpose of these is actually to do with ventilation and smoke extraction, not to stop people from falling onto the track. That is why the above ground Jubilee Line extension stations do not have platform doors.
I went to Japan a few weeks ago and pretty much every metro/underground station have gates
So the Tube is so big and has sooo many curved platforms it’s impossible to put in gates... yet Japan has more stations and more people on each platform and they have curved platforms and yet... have put in gates. The platforms aren’t circles, their long curves. You can put in gates. Yoyogi is a long curve and it has gates. Could it be as simple as...not enough funding to install?
7:15 Damn! That handsome tube officer have a fluent Cantonese ! It really surprises me a lot.
"廣東話 你識唔識聽" Grammars are all correct , what a professional talent !
Yes, I agree. Many foreigners learned to speak cantonese quite well. But their pronunciation is bad. This one is good, his mandarin is rubbish though. I bet he grew up in with Cantonese people around him.
@@dadt8009 he said its mainly from being interested in all things Chinese (in those time probably Hong Kong) and watching badly dubbed kung-fu movies
@@lkrnpk Yes, you are right. I only saw that after I wrote but didn't change my comment. It makes his accurate pronunciation even more amazing.
The convo of no pfp gang
He is from mainland China and when I heard his fluently Mandarin and you will see he cannot understand Cantonese.
As the wind blows, your Train approaches. Do you feel the wind?
I feel like it needs to be followed up with "These... are the days... on the Tube..."
lol
@Aussie Pom lmao
@Aussie Pom LOL
@Aussie Pom That's a "gas"! LOL
Missing her right foot and left index finger and described it as “a bit of discomfort”... 😂
Beat me 2 it! I was like WHAAAT?
good old British understatement!
😂😂😂😂🤡
'Tis but a scratch. Just a flesh wound.
they are usually missing their feet
“When the wind blows, your train approaches. Do you feel the wind?” You can take that as funny or like really sinister. Either way, strangely beautiful. I wish the transit here had actual drivers and announcement people =(
I think it's more literal than poetic.
@1:52 "she'd lost her right foot and her left index finger was missing, and she was in quite a lot of discomfort" Hahaha, understatement of the year
Usually the authorities or paramedics use the term discomfort as it is quite a broad term so they can't be held accountable for over or under exaggerating someone's pain.
@Leads The Fallen Volgs honestly that is not funny how would you take that if that had been you I don’t find that a very funny statement at all I find that an insult to the poor victim show some respect.
Respect to Karen for taking the step down, putting her mental health first.
cheers to that
The only respectable Karen
Hopefully the lady will feel better soon
Who tf cares about mental health? Literally no one
@@JackJackProductionsShorts imagine posting ragebait
This is the way to narrate a documentary.... Thank you for sharing...
Sergeant Crow this programme was already uploaded by undergroundseries, but "Spark" has reuploaded it anyway...
@@RWL2012 Spark has uploaded it in 16:9 HD which is nice :)
the dude that could speak Cantonese was fukin sick! We need more bilingual staff on the tube
They should get an extra pound or two in the paycheck.
"Unfortunately, he didn't speak a dickey bird of English..."
I thought that remark was a bit "cheep"! LOL
Probably be called racist these dats
@@forza223bowe5 Racist? If I'm in Japan, acting like an a-hole, and I don't speak a dickey bird of Japanese, I am the dickey head. But seriously, I think it was a humorous remark. Sometimes the truth is not easy for people to take. Not sure how his remarking on a foreigner's inability to speak the local language is racist. If "Dickey Bird" is distasteful to you, don't lick it.
I still use that term ''Not a dickey bird'' 🐦...It means ''Word''
Eg, ''Heard from so and so?...''
''No...Not a dickey bird.''
@@Oakleaf700 Thank you for that explanation. I'm an American, and I always enjoy learning more about British idioms that I find otherwise amusing. In the US, perhaps it isn't uncommon for "dickey bird" to mean a small flaccid "thing", hence the humor. Keep in mind that some religions frown upon those who play with their dickey birds - I say spread your wings and fly...
That’s so traumatic to have to deal with and I’m glad that they get the drivers the help they need to and the time they need to to try and deal with it
Not had a jumper but was first on the scene when someone fell under a train, (Knocked off balance by their dog.) The driver (And all who have commented about one unders) have my deepest sympaties
All that hassle over £1.90! Even nearly 20 years later, that's only 3 quid!
UFBMusic for show really, need to be seen to enforce or people will start taking the mick
"like the light at the end of the tunnel" not the best way to say it but okay
Only seen one mobile being used throughout the three episodes that are up so far. Is very nostalgic to see and feels more normal than watching a crowd of people with their faces berried into screens.
People had their noses buried in newspapers and books instead. Who cares. Get a life.
only jerks used mobiles in 2001; has the criteria changed or are we all now ....
ok.. but in that context, in which they are not doing anything, why not be on the phone...? I would understand if you say that people go to have lunch with someone and then they are on the phone, yes that's terrible., but in a situation in which you are not doing anything... ? why not?
@@hotelmario510 get lost ye gay punk 🏳️🌈😂😂
Stoical British man: 'A bit of discomfort' ?? I feel faint at the thought.
''What little Mandarin I know''........ Such skills on the Underground! Respect to you all.
Had my first 'man under' (that's how we call it in NYC) during my training on the A train. Technically, my trainer was at the controls, but I saw everything. Even went looking for the guy on the tracks. The wheels cut him right above his waist, so his major organs were destroyed. It was only a matter of time before he went DOA to the hospital.
Dwayne Richardson I saw the same on the D LINE ON 155th street in Harlem the video is Also up on UA-cam it was very graphic
*12-9*
Ooh, nasty
Dont you mean 12-9 or do you guys no longer refer to it as that
@@Mnrr6131 That is the radio code.
13:46 I used to see that Tox tag half of the way from Bristol to Paddington! He really got about!
UFBMusic How about 10foot?
@@Bumbaclot213 I never saw him, but I saw another guy called CUT a lot as well.
There was half an episode filmed about catching and prosecuting 'tox'
Good old TOX
One unders: only answer was to install Platform Edged Doors at all Stations, this would also stop people getting onto the tracks and disrupting the services.
if these were newly build tube tunnels it would be done probably, but since they do not care much about upgrades of these old lines, they dont want to spend the money
We need more people like that announcer in this world.
The poor lady has PTSD.
Wet drip syndrome
@@johnsmith-wx5fb asshole
@Charlie Robertson just an asshole.
@Charlie Robertson nah, just assholes.
@Charlie Robertson it's a shame that an asshole like you tagged me back to a comment I made a year ago. Go get a life, asshole.
I'm so happy you've got the rights to this show. I loved it on original broadcast, and used to watch repeats all the time. I hope you are able to get the rights to all of them!
Don't worry, there's plenty more coming! :)
@@SparkDocs Brilliant. I've already subscribed and rang the bell for notifications purely based on you having this show!
This hits home. I drove light rail several years ago, and had a woman in a car race toward my train while I went through the downtown area. It was terrifying, and I could not drive the train for a some time afterwards. Though she slammed on her breaks, and stopped just inches from the front of my train, it is the worst experience I have ever had in a job. I can empathize with this young woman. I hope she gets back to train driving some day.
What about the poor suicide victims? Do tfl staff Just think about themselves and what lines their pockets?
@@soapbar7371 The poor suicide victims are too busy being dead. Life goes on.
@@soapbar7371 poor victims? It's the most selfish act that a person could perform. I understand that people have issues and suicide is a terrible thing but why would they chose such a public place with so much impact to others? There are so many other ways they could chose to clock out that wouldn't affect as many people
@Wisthanton it isn't their fault as they are not always thinking right
@@soapbar7371The thought of being the death of someone is very dreadful, especially if it wasn’t your fault, usually because you’ll blame yourself. It can lead to PTSD - just because a suicide victim might be going through things doesn’t mean they are the only one that’ll be affected by their actions.
When ever a train comes in, the subtitles say "music".
Aparrently we always misunderstood the squeaking brakes... Their supposed to be music xD
@@zauberbaum1830 :))
Used to watch this series all the time! Feel so old keep them coming!
My grandad drove trains here in Melbourne Australia from early 1950:s to the early 1980's, one day he described the suicides he experienced over that time to me once. It was very traumatic for him, and his family.
About 15 years ago l was on a country train, coming back to Melbourne when a person suicides near Sunshine station. Getting off the train, you could see his body a few hundred metres away.
I remember seeing a 'one under' when waiting for a tube. I still have that snapshot in my brain. Maximum respect to those who work on the Underground and carry on xxx
didnt notice that only the first 3 were up so far. bu sure keep them all coming. its great to watch them again, especially given YT is the only place unless you get them on DVD (which i should really)
I like this series, very interesting. I like the whole behind the scenes of public transport and the thought pf driving underground under houses, streets, rivers... Those staff seem a great bunch pf people and I like the fact that this lady isn't ready to go back to drive full time yet, but she can then take another job within the Tube for a while instead.
"Don't run away Sunny Jim!"
🤣🤣🤣 gotta love ole London.
*Loses foot*
_Damn is this uncomfortable_
"Tis but a scratch"
Crimzon Coolwan he pointed out that she was in shock. It’s a factor in not getting the full force physically and mentally, right away.
please for the love of god keep uploading this series! love it! well done
You do know that others have already uploaded this
Great to see that you have restored this series
In 2008 Karen medically retired due to the 2002 OU on her train and got paid compersation in 2012
Lifestyle By Lilly Where did you Find that info?
You do not get paid compensation.
Where did you get that information from?
Same shit.
@FateBoost probably Wikipedia. The world's most reliable website (sarcasm).
Keep this coming! its fantastic
I know a train driver in Melbourne Australia. They have hit more than all fingers and toes over 30 years. They say if you see someone on the tracks, hit the breaks, sound the horn, close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears.
I usually stick as far away from the tracks as possible to prevent myself from falling over or getting pushed.
Me too, as i have a fear that i will be pushed
@@taraelizabethdensley9475 if u stand in a certain way like I do u can stand near the edge and have no worries
Re 'Jumpers' a bloke {train driver}I knew had to quit his job after a particularly traumatic suicide {Overground train}.
It can really affect people badly.
The Driver just could not get the sight from his memory.
The person met his eyes.. {Transpired they had 'escaped' from a unit for people with mental health issues}
Driver said ''You see them, but cannot stop''..
Unsurprisingly, it often triggers severe PTSD in the drivers.
seems like a caring community with in this job...how they let her have a break and pretty much tried nursing her back to mental health...most jobs would be like "saw something upsetting on the job and its severely effecting you?? tough sh*t! come into work tomorrow or you wont have a job!"
Just found this channel and have subscribed.Although I live in Australia, I love watching video from the Home of railways.
Thanks for your support and glad to hear you're enjoying the series! Be sure to check out another of our binge-worthy shows, Britain's Busiest Airport!
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@@SparkDocs Why can't anyone one in the UK watch Britain's busiest airport, on each video it says it's not available to watch!
@@marcdavey Darn copyright holders enforcing their legal rights.
Also may i reccomend a show called made in chelsea there's a young lady in it called binky felstead
@@johnsmith-wx5fb Thanks John. I've seen a bit of her videos on YT.
Thanks for posting this video!!!
1:52 “discomfort” a rather tame description don’t you think
Probably seen a lot worse and therefore desensitised to survivor injuries.
‘Don’t start running away Sunny Jim!’ ......’he doesn’t speak a dickey bird of English’. 😂😂
I always wondered why the Stockholm metro underground train had windows ... There was nothing to look through them. Until one day when I had to go a station which was above the ground...
Whew I liked when Karen described it as if the kids pretending to jump were a build up to the one under.
What a star that station announcer is they deserve a meddle for the morale boost
I love your guys London travel series' keep em coming! (I also thought having "the aftermath of a train jumper" as a title was a bit overboard since some may want to except some gory video. Thanks Guys!
This series was not originally produced by them. It was first published on UK television quite a few years ago.
People don'trealise how traumatic this can be for a train driver because technically they kill the person. I didn't actually see the person jump when I was 7 years old i was with my mum at convent garden it was not closed but all trains delayed we were walking down to the platform with this lady as they were bringing the body up and she asked them 'is he dead'. you can see under the blanket this person was cut into pieces.
Knicker gripping stuff! Classic London accents to be heard in the control room.
Great video
13:42 - Nice little callback to episode one.
My heart broke for Karen,what an absolutely traumatic thing to go through. If you're that bent on killing yourself at least don't f*ck someone else's life up while doing so.
I agree! And the guy did it next to his wife! Like, wow..and she lost her father, too? I wouldn't be surprised if she lost it again if someone did the same thing to her...and called 'Workman's comp" or some disability leave because of this.
When somebody is feeling suicidal they aren’t thinking straight. I’ve been in a situation when I wanted to end it all. You don’t think about anything except that.
@@oli20210 I dont agree. I've been there and this "method" was never an option for me. I hate disturbing people, i never want to even ask for help for anything. I guess it goes with each person's personality. Even if you are considering suicide, unless you are mentally insane and totally unable to control your actions, you know what you are doing and you can make choices. However I wish people would choose to live.
Mara Ram It really depends on people I can see where you’re coming from
Everyone experiences mental illness differently. Obviously a person still has to take responsibility for their actions even with a mental illness and committing suicide in a way that mentally disturbs other in such an awful way is still very much their responsibility and I’m not excusing it. However, I don’t think you can say you know how everyone feels when they’re depressed because you have felt in a similar way before, as I say everyone experiences mental illness and suicidal thoughts differently
Thank you for uploading these I remember use to watch this on 5 in 2004 era
Never understood why people would stand as close to the edge as possible if it could be avoided. Just looking at them makes me shudder
“Don’t start runnin away sunny Jim yeah” 😂😂😂
Spark the best youtube tube channel
Would be interesting to see that control room now. Apparently all stuck in the 60s back then.
Steven Whiting If it ain't broke ...
Where I live (US, DC Distinct of Columbia) our Metrorail system is debating whether to stop arresting fare jumpers, we have a HUGE problem, most are teenagers.
7:00 I feel the wind after a balti
Very Interesting documentary. Unbelievable how much old technology can be seen everywhere. Tube displays and other 1980s (+ older technology). It would indeed be a need to invest more in maintenance and modernization of technology.
Tuomas Levoniemi this was filmed 16 years ago
Um... Why? If it works why meddle with it?
I was on a train that hit a kangaroo. They had to stop the train at the next station to remove the remains and to make sure it wasn't a person. My great grandfather was a train driver and was haunted by such a situation. Many people just see the machine and not the driver behind it who will have to live with killing them.
I think I found a Karen I actually respect
I can understand and respect people for having enough of life, for any number of reasons and its bad enough for any family, loved ones or friends they leave behind but choosing to attempt it in a way that traumatises random people just living their lives, earning a wage... It seems so incredibly selfish to inflicted such a gruesome method, the public that witness it, the railway staff that are involved, it must be awful.
I agree and have thought this for years. It's the poor people left to scrape you up off the pavement that I feel so bad for, the train engineer that has to go back to work and worries every time they are approaching someone just a little too close to the edge of the platform, the bus driver .. the truck driver .. the Paramedics .. it's all just so sad .. the police that have to try to find out the identity of the person and then find the next of kin and then break that sad news .. it goes on and on. There has to be a better way for people with extreme depression that want to kill themselves.
He can anyone tell me what pets are. The thin he said at 2:48 ? Kind regards
@@260381re I think he is referring to "pits" between the rails.
Nonarei
Do you realy think somebody who want to commit suicide gives a Damn about any body else's Feeling. If you think that your very naive.
@@bigniper precisely. Tragic though it is, when you're in that state of mind you're physically incapable of taking things like that into consideration.
Who else is watching this during the pandemic? I’m in bed binge watching it due to a broken left leg. 😫😫
Same, but due to ACL, MCL, and meniscus surgery recovery.
Wow 50 people in year threw themselves under the metro train just in London alone. I always thought that maybe 3 to 5 people a year at most committed suicide by jumping in front of a metro train in London. That is just unbelievable that so many people a year kill themselves by metro train in a year, that's sad if you think about it. It takes some guts to jump in front of a train, truck or car.
“We got this Chinese guy” imagine the drama it would cause if that was said in public in 2020
Did you just assume his race?
Student of knowledge - yes by race-baiting people who want to read a sinister agenda behind everything
Yawn.
It amuses me that in 2002, London Underground were still using the Microvitec Cub monitors we used on old BBC Microcomputers at school.
Nimmo1492 if it works, it works
That’s a good idea tell us best type of track and most popular stations to top and tail your self at
the beginning music reminds me of simpleplanes for some reason lol
‘theres a reason they have barriers on the trainline’ - wilbur
Breh, a person getting hit by a train must be one of the most gory situations. I feel it for the people that have to deal with it.
As station staff I wouldnt wish it on anyone
@@mt_mastermindx8069 ahh man!! Indeed, hope you never have to see it.
In London they call it a "one under".... In New York City, we call it a "12-9"
what is it a reference to?
12-9?
@@MasterLapin radio code for man under.
And sadly it’s more gruesome in NY
@@Mnrr6131 it’s the same type of thing how can it be more gruesome there are both people dead under trains?
_the control room looking like the damn nostromo_
"The man was standing next to his wife on the platform when he jumped"
Clealer than a suicide note.
I cant believe that this was 20 years ago
That man at the 7:57 mark he has on a yellow shirt looks alot like that man that was in that show that used to come on The Undateables lolol
The should do the platforms of the jubilee line at stations such as Westminster. They should do that at all stations to prevent accidents
kenny And ours is one of the least subsidised in Europe - few if any run at a profit without subsidy
at majority of these stations there is no need to even "double-up", as the gates are usually too slow to close anyway lol...
someone killed themselves at wrexham station while i was at uni there, and it was disgusting because a lot of students were angry about it and complaining because they wanted to go home, as it was a holiday.
I'm guessing the jumper was failing their course and didn't want to let their parents done.
I- people are so incompetent and selfish.
Did anyone else see the lady that got heatstroke in the next series at 4:37?
16:25 They DO realise the after-effects of jumping in front of a train but 1. they're clearly not in a rational state in the moment 2. why would they care if they're dead?
It's those left behind who have to deal with the ramifications of the suicider's cowardly and selfish exit.
@@neilforbes416 If someone is in the state of mind to throw themselves in front of a train, should we *really* expect them to care about inconveniencing others? It's a bit like being angry at deer roadkill for going on to the road and being hit by a car.
@@DreamClean Deer are just animals and cannot be expected to have road sense, like kangaroos and koalas here in Australia that wander onto the road and get killed by passing cars, buses or trucks that don't see them until it's too late. But people who choose to end their lives do so often for selfish reasons, then it's left to the rest of their families to pick up the pieces, and for a train driver like the lady in this episode, her career could be wrecked by the selfish actions of someone who is a total stranger to her.
@@neilforbes416 Indeed but you're expecting someone who's willing to kill themselves to care about someone else's career. . . . . .
@@DreamClean No, and that's what makes the suicidal person so selfish, the fact that he/she does not care how his/her suicide is going to affect someone he/she doesn't know.
The best replay to a fool is silence
In Shanghai, there are transparent barriers in most stations
6:14 “Call the old bill then!”
11:22 little cameo there
steffenlgk were you in the episode ...
Sometimes I don’t think the public really understand railways ,we had a jumper at Clapham on the up fast Brighton a passenger said well the train has breaks and why didn’t it swerve ,I say no more .........😳
and NNNOOOOOO don't jump in front of the DLR either
SAVINO DELVECCHIO that’s SZA in her pic, it’s not her. 💀
Kamineiro the DLR is too light to kill you
I think in Japan or China they have blue lights near the rails and I think the train suicide has dropped a lot
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The Chinese guy tried to walk away not run away. That old supervisor guy with the tash is a right 'over the top' Pollock.
It happend to my old boss while he was driving a Lorry and he was not the same we whould have to call his son to come and get him because he whould be crying in the canteen for year's after even the guy's family told him he had tried before and was not his fault but what he seen was not the same.
its an awful thing to experience. if one decides to shed this mortal coil, fine but dont involve another person if it can be helped
@619 you're not allowed to touch or forced to stop 25 years in the service supervisor???
"i didn't jump, i swear, i was pushed" said the subway ghost in Ghost
He definitely jumped though all the same 😆
It's sad :(
Screen all the platforms like some Jubilee line with doors that align with train doors.
That would be a great help for those of us with a fear of either falling or being pushed
This is a difficult situation and I can speak from personal experience;
I've been involved with the outcome of several suicides in my time with Railtrack and Network Rail in 2000's involving my close colleagues., and personally picking up and dragging the bits from animal collisions.
The worst was probably walking a mile of track to a reported hit about midnight. It was dark with no surrounding lights and as I approached the reported area by a signal I could see a lump in the 4' lit up by the red light, the size of a child. I was relieved to find it was a body of a deer. This was relayed back to control and the PSB, so hopefully the Driver could be informed it was not a human he had hit, as well as opening the line up again.
Fast forward to 2012 in New Zealand when my life went tits up.
Over the next 9 years I have attempted suicide by overdose 4 times but got it wrong. All possible ways went through my head including jumping in front of a train, but NZ doesn't have a Railway, so you would probably die of boredom waiting for one.
The point of this rant is that when you are in that frame of mind of ending it all, you don't think of others.
I am truly sorry for all those that have had deal with suicides but that is the reality of a very depressed person, and I can see both sides of it having been on both sides myself.
Hopefully the Governments will invest more into Mental Health, I have basically been dismissed as not ticking the right boxes.
We all die one day but for some life is shit and death can't come soon enough.
some horrors you have seen there mate... i hope things are better for you now, it's great that you can talk about it. stay in the fight!
I send you good wishes and hope you are doing well.
The Government says suicide is legal, but it does everything it can to make it very difficult to actually do.
Safe and effective drugs for reliable and peaceful overdose? Illegal to get. Almost impossible for prescription.
City gas? Get rid of that.
You will even be detained in a psychiatric hospital if you want to kill yourself, but suicide is legal.
You can't give someone counsel or assistance in committing suicide, but suicide is legal. It's the only thing that is legal to do, but illegal to assist with. That's just cruel.
Maybe if euthanasia and/or assisted suicide were provided, competent people in constant physical and/or psychological pain could have a reliable and peaceful death, and not have to jump in front of trains, or botch overdoses or hangings, and ruin many people's days or even lives.
If it were provided, some people don't even end up killing themselves, because they know they have a way out, and have the strength to fight a terminal illness to the end.
It's cruel to say you can kill yourself, and then take away all the reliable and peaceful ways to do it.
It's also cruel to say you can't have a reliable and peaceful death for your psychological suffering, and then don't help people live, even if they've been begging for help from the NHS, other Government bodies, and even family for years.
Anyway, they'll just keep installing platform screens to take away yet another way to end your suffering relatively quickly (if done properly).
Note that they only ever show 'survivors' who say they're happy to be alive, and not the dead ones who are glad they died, or the living ones who are sorry they didn't die.
They say they check for people that don't have tickets or are pushing behind others, but in actuality they'd see them do it, and nothing will happen...
9:29 an indestructible Nokia :)
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A lot of drivers who witness a 'one under' never go back to work.
why not ? if someone jumped in front of your car while driving, should you quit driving ?
Not true!
Again more rubbish about tube drivers
@@nearlyretired7005 True according to the drivers I've spoken to, including one who retired after a second jumper.
In China, they built doors on train platform and there is security guard who controls the emergency stop button. Jumping off the building is also hard as it may cause fatalities to others on the ground. Everything is so difficult nowadays even suicide!