2015 Porsche Cayman Review // 981 prices going up!!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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The Porsche Cayman and Boxster 981 were the last of the flat-six base model and S versions sold. Since then Porsche has added the GTS, GT4 and Spyder with the flat-six but for the main production cars these are the last of an era. The Boxster, Boxster S, Cayman and Cayman S were sold as a 981 for only a few short years. The prices of these cars have gone up over the past year due to desirability and the fact they have either the base 2.7L 6-cylinder or 3.4L 6-cylinder. Enthusiasts like the sound of these cars and the reliability they provide.
Thanks to www.corcars.com for the loan of this 2015 Cayman
I recently bought a red 981 Boxster S. Best car I've ever owned.
Really awesome review! Boxster/Cayman is the real deal as far as sports cars go. I have definitely noticed the ~20% price increase in the last year or so.
Here in the uk its absolutely the same scenario. Iv been tracking the 987 and 981 prices for last 4 years
I bought my 981 cayman 2015 plate 3years ago...and i can sell it now for the same price i bought it for! Thats nearly 3 years later. In fact i could even get about £1500-£2000 pounds more.
Astonishing.
I dont think they will go up more...infact i think this is the highest they will go for before they level off and come down again.
At this point i will add...what a car. Those sitting on the fence re a porsche...if you can..go for it. You will never regret the feeling u get when u drive one. And u get it every single time!
Really? I have a Nov 15 build and only 6 months ago, I though the prices are slowly but surely dropping... but I don't really care much, as I don't intend to sell.
I recently got a black 981 Cayman 2.7 and I love every single second driving it. I Also test drove the 3.4 S but I couldn't justify the price difference to the driving experience. The 'base' Cayman is more than fast enough for me and it sounds incredible over 4500 rpm. If only Porsche had fitted shorter gear ratios, then it would be absolutely 100% perfect.
I just got a 981 boxster 2.7 and I agree plenty of power and the sound in the 2.7 is better than the 3.4 in my opinion
the sound is better in the 2.7 maybe one of the best sounding IMO. @@scottsmith7337
Ya when you are hitting 80kph in 2nd gear who needs a manual...lol
Bought my 2014 Cayman 2.7 last year with 9k miles...looking forward to a few years of smiles and selling it for more than I paid for it. Same insurance cost as my daughters RAV4.
LOL don’t sell man, what you want a Tesla? Guessing you have multiple cars.
I think the Cayman is one of the best looking sport cars out there. And with the mid engine, what's not to like?
The hardtop😜. Porsche done good with having it as a Boxster!
They really hit the design out of the park. Add in flat six and a lovely manual transmission and you have a winner that is steadily going up in value.
I have a 16 GTS. Love everything about it but the rear. Hate those tail lights. The 991/992 have the best rear end.
C8 is better
@@BrandonClark-StocksPassports but then you’d have to drive a c8.
I'd rather be lucky than good... I purchased my CPO 2014 Cayman in Anthracite Brown w/ Luxor Beige interior June of last year at the height of Covid in the US. My 1st Porsche. It was the exact spec I was looking for (sport chrono, 20" Carrera S wheels, and CPO for peace of mind) and only 30miles down-the-road at the dealer. It had 52k miles on it and was selling for $37k. When I showed up, it was a trade-in and it hadn't even been detailed yet. When I attempted to negotiate price, the salesman just chuckled at me ;-) Said 'if I didn't buy it on-the-spot, it would be sold in hours'. He wasn't joking, they had 3 calls from out-of-state while I was finishing paperwork!! I got the last laugh; CPO inspection resulted in 4 brand new tires, rotors, and pads and a replaced CV boot. I've put 10k miles on it in less than a year, and 'Porsche' still puts a smile on my face every time I return to her in a parking lot. 3 mountain trips already including Tail of the Dragon & Blue Ridge Parkway. I'm changing oil every 5k, PDK fluid every 30k, and plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off. There are exactly 8 981 Caymans currently for sale w/ Luxor Beige interiors... in the ENTIRE United States! If you have the means, don't hesitate. Don't treat these vehicles as investments; life is too short! Get out and drive!
Had a 2014 Cayman S, Automotive ADD kicked in and replaced it with a 2015 Corvette, 3 days later I missed my Cayman, so ordered a 2016 Cayman S. These are incredible cars...I've driven multiple 911's, if you only care about the driving experience (and not as much about status and looks) these are the right choice. They are a more connected driving experience than the newer 911's which are larger and have the engine further away.
Thanks for sharing
I can only confirm that I enjoy my Cayman 981 2.7 every single day since the day I bought it, now 4 years ago.
Fast enough on public roads, no need for an S nor GTS.
Never used the radio.. just listening the flat 6🤓
Rgs from Belgium 🇧🇪
I can relate :)
@@austin2valid553
you have white cayman with the 20inch wheels?
Same here! The 2.7 has so much potential that is restricted from the factory too that lends itself to be opened up with a tune!
@@edmaverik
hello you have 2.7 tuned 981 ?
if yes, much different compared to stock ?
what is done ?
how much horsepower?
cheers from another Belgian 981 owner :-) // perfect Porsche
Agree with everything presented here. I own my 2014 Cayman 981 and drive it daily, now at over 105K miles, including on track.
Magnificent sports car and halfway affordable.......!
what would you say your annual maintenance cost has been through your ownership?
Absolutely love my 981, it’s a fantastic car honestly in every way
I bought my ‘14 981 Cayman this past Dec (2020). It is my first Porsche, it’s a manual, my daily driver, and I LOVE it!
I recently bought a 2015 Base in manual. Love it!!!!
Congrats I have the same. No regrets. I love modding mine and keep up with all the S models!
Purchased my 275 h.p. 2014 Cayman 2.7 NEW back in 2013. Still own it with 46K miles on it. Ordered it with the PDK, sport tailpipe twin exhaust, upgraded Info Bose stero system, 19" Boxster S wheels, White exterior W/ black leather, Premium Pkg, power steering+, Bi-Xenon and folding mirrors. The car has been fantastic and an absolute joy to drive. Initially, I debated between the 2.7 and 3.5 but sales person convinced me if I wasn't going to track the car it would be a waste to spend the extra $10K. He was certainly right because I've always been into cruising sports cars. Both engines are OUTSTANDING - especially being high quality 6 cylinders.
lol someone posted an ad for 2015 GTS with 28k kms for 100k in Richmond, BC .....It didn't take long for price drops, now at 80k.
100k is a gouge, but they’ll get close to 80k
Lots of price gouging going on. You can buy a brand new GTS 4.0 for 100k. Even lesser models like the one in the review is overpriced. Must be a scam dealership as msrp for a base 2015 Cayman was $60k CAD.
$100k CAD wow!
@@alfatech8741 Technically you should be able to, in reality you cannot...
@@MrAsh2121 There was a brand new Cayman GTS 4.0 at Vancouver Porsche a few weeks ago with convenience package and interior package for under $110k. Looks like it sold now though. I've been looking to get a used 981 for a while now and have struck out so far. Almost jumped on a used 2015 991.1 but it was selling for only 20k under MSRP!
Excellent review. The best I've seen over the past few years regarding the Cayman. Simple, direct and respectful to the viewer. Now if only the viewers could show the same respect to channel owners like you and among themselves. :-)
Your video convinced me to get a base model 2015 Cayman with super low mileage, like 13000. This will be my first Porsche and I’m really thrilled! Thank you!
How do you like it? Do you find the 2.7 has enough passing power for day to day traffic? Cheers!
@@vincentxtran hi
I ended up getting an S. It’s white, 2014 with 20 wheels and chrono with sports exhaust. I use it as a daily. I love it more than my Lexus is350 fs.
I bought a 981 in June of 2021 and realized I better make my choice as they were getting scarce and disappearing right in front of me, thus find a good example and keep it as Porsche cars are going up in value constantly…….Oh yes and what magic they are on the road, once you own a Porsche nothing else measures up!
Feels good to know I made the right decision 2 weeks ago buying my 1st 981 2.7 PDK 2013 Boxster model with Sports + , Active Exhaust Porsche extended warranty . Imagine , I am the 3rd Owner purchased the Boxster at USD55K with 70k km on the clock. Hope to see more positive revoew and nice video of the car .....Cheers from Asia , Malaysia.
I got myself a 99 986 boxster last year and I'm loving it =)
Hope for my 2016 Cayman GTS. Kept it clean, 30k km, PPF and everything. Hoping it could be a good sell, IF I ever even sell it. I can't think of another car that hits this niche that I enjoy other than a GT4. But that's not gonna bod well with my aching back and shoulders
Fantastic review. I am lucky enough to own a agate grey 981 Cayman S with Carrera Classic wheels here in Ireland and I am living the dream. Erika (named after a famous German marching song) turns heads wherever she goes. 😎
I agree agate gray had me drawn when I saw mine.
Ditto with my agate grey s. Had dealer send out to paint the wheels satin black before I even picked it up. What a difference. I smile every time I see the car
2015 agate grey base PDK. 36,000 miles. Beautiful drive with plenty of power for UK roads with a speed camera on every bloody corner 🤬
2.7 manual 981 is all you need as a road car 👌
I agree 💯, just ordered the PSE for my 2014 Cayman Base, all the car I need🏎
I bought a 2013 Boxster manual in 2014 and love it! I bought a new 1981 Mazda RX7 and always wished I had a convertible. When the 944s come out I bought a 1990 Cab and loved it except it was a maintenance nightmare. This Boxster has about 35k on it and have not had a problem. Fun and reliable. Glad to hear they are going up in value even though I don't plan on getting rid of mine any time soon. Also, having a manual means your wife and kids can't drive it? Sounds like a plus to me!!!
I agree the 981 base is a solid tank with zero issues after 5 years of owning mine.
I have owned mine for 4 years, 53k on it now, the best car I have owned
Absolute best review on this topic! Answered all the main questions. Loved how you recommend starting with a base and possibly upgrading with more experience.
As a Boxster 986 owner and 911 owner, the Boxster and Cayman is just night and day difference in handling. The Cayman any generation, where ever you aim the nose of that car, it simply goes there effortlessly. The sound right behind your ears is phenomenal. Late braking on turns allows the Boxster or Cayman to take turns and exit much quicker. You feel planted all the time. Baby 911? Negative, can't compare at all. The Cayman is intentionally under powered and less modded from factory bec it will out perform the 911
Yes but that can easily be remedied with a $1200 tune to exploit that 3.4 Cayman/Boxster engine and get 362bhp!!👍
I’ve got a 987.1 S manual and was test driving 981 S PDK. I wanted to keep the sound from the flat six but with the 981, there was a lot of noise from exhaust and it overwhelmed the howl of the engine. It was also larger and can feel it in handling. I do realize benefits of PDK but my manual feels like a finely tuned rifle. So I decided to keep my 987.1 S knowing bore scoring is imminent but given I only have 59,0000 kms, it’s going to be a long time before it happens. Also going to upgrade PCCM so I can have the latest tech. 9871.1 is obviously older but it’s aged quite well and gives me a sense of nostalgia.
Great review as a 987 owner from the other side of the Atlantic. I'm tinkering with the thought of a moving up to a 911 GTS or some other variant...... it's just hard to justify the additional expense for the sake of sprinting up to the car in front a bit faster. The 911 is not a quiet car unless perhaps spending even more on a turbo for the sake of a few more tenths and a few less decibels. Sadly finding a quiet, cop or camera free road is an increasing rarity. We can but dream......
Sounds like England sucks 🥲
@@Vegas_Des Ha ha at times it does - if you like keeping your driving license !
take it to the racetrack to enjoy
I went from a 987.2 to a 981 and the difference is night and day. Love the 981 (also in the UK)
@zack Very timely review, as we're also on the hunt for a 981 Boxster. Really appreciated your thoughts on these vs 911.
Excellent review and the best video that I've seen in years on the Porsche 981 base!
I concur wholeheartedly that the flat-6 2.7L is the most bang for your buck that will provide many drivers with lots of glorious smiles per miles. As for me, I've had my 981 Porsche base for 5 years and I cannot see myself ever parting with it because it is that good for daily driving and all around use. No offense to all the 981 S and GTS owners, but if you are not tracking or autocrossing then it just becomes a traffic light and a highway onramp drag machine, which was nonsensical to me.
What nobody willingly admits on these UA-cam reviews is that most of us motoring enthusiasts drive at highly illegal speeds all the time that we can get away with, sometimes even dangerously, and that's where the extra power really shines.
@@johnlee5307
I am afraid that is correct...
for that reason I decided to attend some trackday training on the circuit as from this year
looking forward!
Don't get sucked into covid pricing on a used depreciating asset...patience is virtual
I'd agree with you normally, 981 is in a unique and different position. Low production numbers, amazing handling and a flat 6.
I would agree, but eventually ICE cars will be hobby cars......Cayman are great hobby cars.
These cars price is not coming down. As a matter of fact, the last air cooled 911 flat 6, the 993, is being sold now for more money than it cost new. Cheers.
Why not? I just sold my used cayman that’s 2 years old for 20 percent more than I paid for it.
@@itguru2037 ye but youre the seller. doesn't work out for the buyer does it
I bought a yellow 2014 981 Boxster last October with 30,000K and got it for a great price from the Porsche dealer because they didnt want to keep it through our winter. This year they started going up in value and are becoming rare to find.
I have a boxster (981) gts and the price increase every year ............... but is not important, the only important thing is the smile when I drive this car ........
Just bought 2.7 14 981 cayman pdk, sport chrono with aftermarket titanium exhaust. It is enough power and handling for daily driven. Love it whenever I look at it drive it.
I've had a base Cayman for five years. Bought it used with 11k miles on it, now has 42k. Smiling from ear to ear overtime I drive it. Lots of twisty's where I live in Socal and this car loves them.
Bought my 2014 Cayman Base 4 years ago with 27k on it, have 53k on it now. I have found some twisties here in South Carolina. Porshe is about the code of the curve
Just got 2014 981 Boxster Base PDK at US$35K, with no major option packages but just Sport Chrono at 60K miles. Single square exhaust tip and halogen lights look horrible, but I'm extremely happy with my very first 2 seater mid engine convertible sport car and enjoying driving after work every day with top open to feel direct sun light, wind, speed, and flat 6 sounds roar behind me. Thanks!
My 2014 Cayman Base had the single square exhaust too. I replaced it with Fabspeed X pipe with carbon fiber finish. Just ordered PSE. Cant wait to install it, WATCH OUT🏎
Alfa Romeo 4C hard top discontinued. That’s my hidden gem that’s appreciating with low miles
Nice review. I just got a 981 last week.
ALL Porsches have been going up in price!
It's so true. Several months ago, I was able to find 981 Caymans under $35K with low miles. Now? Only junked Caymans.
I had to "settle" for a rear-wheel drive 2 Series because they seem to be under-appreciated at the moment. My Porsche ownership experience will have to wait a couple of years.
Such a beautiful design even after 8 years.
Going to be buying a cayman s soon in red! super excited
Been looking for one in red the last 4 months with black wheels, can’t find anywhere!
@@leemanning1940 im lucky enough to know someone that is going to sell it lol
Thanks Zack! Bought a Boxster some months ago on your advice. Awesome.
Getting my 981 Dark metallic blue shipped in end of April!🤙
you will enjoy !
keep if safe the first weeks
You will love it! I own a midnight blue 981 cayman 2013 with beige interior, a perfect match for me. Received a lot of looks and I'm very happy driving it daily.
After watching this video I’m going for the cayman .
Despite owning an ‘87 air cooled Carrera, I’ve always preferred the regular Porsche coupés, in model. They appear so much more balanced on the road. But between price, condition and scarcity... I could never afford, nor find one, that was in reasonable condition and/or reasonably priced. And lately, those have even become harder to locate and/or harder to afford. First world problem? Maybe... but so is having Style. Its the price difference between “cool” and “cooler” or ... “coolest” (Turbo/GT3?), I suppose. The price therefore goes up accordingly. Thanks for the video.
Is the base enough? I’m thinking of getting the base because I live and commute in LA and don’t have many opportunities to even floor the car
ONe of the best sports cars available. No reason for prices to drop, quite honestly.
Cayman > 911. I reckon its better than the 911. Note I didn't say quicker because its not, but its better and that's what matters.
Did the 981 Cayman base model come with a sport Chrono option? Or is that Dash clock an option without being included in sport Chrono?
Nice, I will have a green one thanks Zack!
Not crapping on the base motor at all but I drove them back to back and an S makes a big difference. Also opted for a manual in my 981 boxster S. The PDK is a great unit but it’s less fun than rowing your own gears imho. I don’t care about marginally better 0-60 times or accommodating people who can’t drive manual. Having said that. I got mine in late Feb and have noticed supply shrinking even since I bought mine. It was time to make this move for me (came out of an M235i).....and if I paid a couple grand premium, so be it.
If you use base on track with PDK there's not much diff in lap times and if you use for auto cross you can't beat that launch control
@@981_pdk3 - for those that care about those things, I suppose that is a good point. I am only concerned about available power in real-world driving on the street and the pdk represents a lessening of the fun factor for me. It takes a step away from engagement with the vehicle.
I understand that point of view I have owned a manual e36 I just thought it was interesting this vid shows them on the track as real sports cars. It’s Interesting according to fastestlaps though the base Cayman has a higher average corner g than the higher models (might have a slight weight advantage)
@@981_pdk3 that’s interesting (lower weight of 2.7).....and once upon a time I had an e36 as well. Small world. I don’t anticipate tracking my boxster S. Having said that, I would think that to the extent I cared about the lap times, it would be me beating my prior best time....so the specifics of the car become irrelevant. I understand that not everyone thinks that way, but I find it hard to believe I’d enjoy an automatic (regardless of brilliance) nearly as much as a manual.
For real world driving the point for me is the extra grunt (at any engine speed) I get in the S, coming out of a corner. When you buy them in the secondary market, the gap between the S and non S isn’t bad at all.
I shouldn’t have sold my e36 they seem to be going up in price as well. I have noticed also the gap to the S second hand is not too bad. I checked cars for sale and there are not many 981’s here in Australia. Must be high demand
I own a 2020 718 GT4 and def would’ve gotten a 981 GTS or GT4 if Porsche hadn’t reintroduced the flat-6 to the Cayman line.
Perfect spec, just need the ventilated seats. I think the 2009-2011 with the hydraulic steering are very desirable.
actually the alcantar seating surface on the GTS is really good for not being hot and sticky in the summer and not cold in the winter, so much that you don't really need the ventilated seats
@@johnlee5307 I found the same with my cloth seats in my GTI, great all year round.......until I moved the South, so hot and humid in the summer.....I tried ventilated seats in an AMG C43 and they have been on my wish list since then. Avoiding dark leather seats, and dark exterior colors though is good as well.
@@93455Driver I’ll sure the ventilated seats are better in the hot and humid climes of the south but they are also heavier so unless you absolutely need it, I would make do with the alcantara as they don’t wear out like they do in touch point applications like the steering wheel and the shifter.
I've had a 987.2 and a 981. 981 is a better car in all aspects 👍
The cayman gts 2015 is the best choice
I agree, but much more expensive...
so I bought the 2.7 and happy ever since 🚗
maybe there is a low supply because Porsche isn't allow to Sell models with Sports Chrono?
I was looking at the used market for 991.1 Carrera S/4S when they were in the $80k range, now they're all touching $100k used...
very detailed!
Prefer the Cayman & manual for sure.
Love my GTS !!!
Does Base 981 Boxster and Cayman have same the HP ? I think they’re not.
They don’t, the Cayman has about 10 bhp more
Just sold my base 981 for we hat I paid got it 3 yrs ago
why did you sell ?
@@cayman9815 bought a 718S
@@andrewbrown5636
and ??
better ?
no sound issues...
$63k for a 2015 base Cayman? Really? They were $60k cad msrp new add a few k with some options. Serious covid price gouging going on. Do your research people and don't get scammed! Prices will drop when this covid mess is over. Best to hold off or only buy one that's priced right.
They wont drop much
No that will not happen. They are still rising and will never drop, ever again. these cars are on their way to get extinct, it's a german manufactured car and german / EU regulations are extremely strict. That's why the 718 already came with the 4 cyl and the next Cayman/Boxster generation after the 718 will be ELECTRIC. As everyone knows the 981s are the last true 6cylinder caymans/boxsters (besides the 718 4.0 GTS which is extremely expensive (911 range)) the prices will NEVER drop again, since everyone is looking for a 981 with low mileage these days and the next years.
My honest advice for everyone considering such a car is: BUY ASAP. The best price for it will always be TODAY.
one model with a 6 cyl? isn't it two? GT4?
No, it’s more like 6 models now. Cayman GTS 4.0, Boxster GTS 4.0, Boxster 25th Annv., Boxster Spyder, Cayman GT4, and Cayman GT4-RS all have flat-6. The GT4-RS even have a GT3 flat-6 that revs to 9K.
I made the mistake of picking up an E92 M3 even though I wanted a 981S at the time. I felt like I needed to own an E92 M3 at least once in my life and it's a great car but now 981 prices are through the roof 😩
i actually traded in a E92 M3 comp with the manual on a CPO 981 B GTS manual after one test drive in 2016. It was a completely different level of engagment and fun. 50k miles later and I can almost get what I paid for it, but I'll never sell it. I test drove a 991.1 GTS manual at the dealer a year later but couldn't see why I would pay another $40k for a car that was no better of a pure driving experience. in retrospect should have bought that one too.
@@johnlee5307 wow, that's great! I've had several people tell me they went from an E92 M3 to a 981 with no regrets whatsoever 😁 I was considering a 991 also, both great cars! How does the power in the GTS compare to the E92?
@@micraw714 they’re both NA so the power delivery feels similar but the difference is the handling and enhanced sensation due to the balance the light weight and the incredible sound right in your ear especially with the top down. It’s intoxicating. I do a hard pull every chance I get and it never gets old. I’m sure a more capable driver can out drive me in as lesser car but for me this car is as good as it gets. For the first time in 40 years of car ownership, I don’t envy other cars anymore. I still watch videos of the new cars but I know that I won’t be getting anymore than this experience on public roads since I don’t track my car.
@@johnlee5307 Wow John, I think you may have just convinced me to go for it! The way you describe it is exactly what I was picturing. I've only driven a 718 base model but loved the way it felt with that mid engine and incredible balance. I knew that the same feeling but with the flat 6 in the 981 would be right up my alley 😁 I appreciate it!
@@micraw714 you won't regret it. good luck finding one though.
5:10 "If you can afford an S it's never a bad idea..."
Come on mate, I know why you said it like that lol
its not a baby 911 , its a cayman ! and its a better car
Um, you can get a Cayman in a flat six now.
i noticed this, and its ppissing me off
Don't ever go from a 911 to a Cayman, I did and sold the cayman in under 2 years.
Two totally different handling cars. Caymans-even the newer ones-are plenty fast, light and perfectly balanced with their mid engine layout. While 911s-especially the newer (post 997 vintage) have become bigger, heavier and more GT like and will never handle like a mid engine car-simple physics. At the end of the day, both are great cars in their own right-just totally different. And yes-I’ve driven them both-because I own one of each, a 981 Boxster S and a 997 S. When I want to rip on some curves and toss the car around, I reach for the Boxster key. When I want to go for a long cruise with my wife, I reach for the 997 key. The Boxster feels lighter and nimbler than the 997 but the 997 feels more planted than the 981. Again-both great cars.
@@thedudeabides1443 while the Cayman is a "good" car, it isn't terribly exciting to drive. It's so refined that I didn't enjoy it. I like my cars edgy like the turbo, GT3 or a GT4 series. Also, if you like people saying what a "cute" car you have, then by all means, buy it.
DarkClosetOfTheMind yeah I hear you I like them edgy as well. I owned a 987 Cayman R and that thing was the very DEFINITION of edgy. Too harsh for me but a ripper and I’d put it up against ANY Porsche EVER for sheer enjoyment of driving. If you want something edgy, drive one of these, a 987 Spyder or 981 Cayman GT4. There is a reason these cars are going up in price-they are FANTASTIC drivers cars. ALL edgy cars that would scratch that itch.
@@DarkClosetOfTheMind If your car purchasing decision is based on what people might say, you got a lot of work and growing up to so mentally
@@divertiti yep, I blame society...lol
Prices are going up everywhere because of inflation.....the increase is NOT exclusive to porsche or its products.
C8 corvette is better than porsche nowadays anyway....unless it's a 918 spyder hybrid or something like that.
Pass on the 981....get a C8 Corvette.
Except the C8 is a ridiculous price now because of the demand for them and dealerships won't budge on their 30% or more over MSRP. You could probably get a GTS Boxster or Cayman for less than a new C8 at the moment.
C8 is made by Chevrolet, quality build???????
I bought a 981 in June of 2021 and realized I better make my choice as they were getting scarce and disappearing right in front of me, thus find a good example and keep it as Porsche cars are going up in value constantly…….Oh yes and what magic they are on the road, once you own a Porsche nothing else measures up!