The Enterprise -D Crossed The Neutral Zone

Star Trek The Next Generation Season 3 The Defector

[@sempermilites87]

Wish I heard how this favor was asked:
Klingons: "You're asking for THREE of our ships?!?!? We better get something huge out of this Picard."
Picard: "You'll get one of two things in return. Either you'll get to kill some Romulans or watch them get incredibly embarrassed."
...
...
Klingons: "We're in."

[@MasterofSpiders]

I feel a little sorry for the commanders of those 3 BoPs though. Can imagine them listening in on Picard & Tomalok.
Picard: "Shall we die together?"
Klingons: "Yes! Yes! YES! Honourable death here I come!"
Tomalok: "I look forward to our next meeting, captain."
Klingons: "Aww..."

[@studinthemaking]

MrSkrallis More likes they have no honor. Let leave them to rot.

[@hailhydra749]

@@MasterofSpiders Thanks for the comment. It made me laugh and can be considered a perfect representation of how that klingons must have felt!

[@xPadge112x]

Probably a bit like this one.

[@xPadge112x]

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[@lilbubz2803]

I like how the Klingon arrival isn't just a deterrent for attacking the enterprise. It’s a symbol to the Romulans that in any war against the Federation, this Klingon Empire would side with the Federation over the Romulans .

[@hobomike6935]

in another episode where the Klingons doubt romulan interference in an internal affair, picard coldly states to the ambassador "but they *do* have an interest in driving the federation and the klingon empire apart; our alliance is the only thing that has kept them in check..."
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[@bobsmith962]

It's so nice to have friends

[@BrownEyePinch]

😂

[@plonkersbro]

True but we all know the House of Duras would side with the Romulans

[@renetrograde]

the house of duras would side with some fries if it meant not siding with the federation. @@plonkersbro

[@kakushidate]

When Picard sat down, crossed his legs, AND straightened his shirt, Tomalak should have known he was about to get clowned.

[@hubertsang7418]

Straightening the shirt was known by cast as the PICARD MANEUVER

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

Picard: "I do not require one, Tomalak".
*sits down, straightens tunic
Tomalak: "(Why do I hear boss music??)"
"I urge you, Captain Picard, *surrender.* Consider the men and women you would lead into a *lost cause".*
Picard: "If the cause is just and honorable, they are willing to give their lives. Are *you* prepared to die today, Tomalak?"
Tomalak: "(Now why does this boss music sound like Jerry Goldsmith's Klingon theme?!)"

[@Jayfive276]

As the Tamarians say "Picard, his legs crossed, his shirt straightened" which loosely translates to "Oh boy, are you in trouble now pal".

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

​@@Jayfive276This is brilliant!

[@DiscoRaptor]

@@Jayfive276 That is amazing! 😂

[@X-Prime123]

I like the fact Tomalak gave Picard a respectful nod at the end, like saying "well played".

[@saj2392]

Picard out-Romulaned a Romulan. Worthy of a respectful nod or two, I'd say.

[@ronaldshank7589]

Tomalak wasn't ready to die, being that he knew that he was evil. He didn't want to face the consequences of dying, unprepared to meet his maker.

[@morsteen]

Does that bring you joy?

[@PCCphoenix]

4:04

[@wyldelf2685]

Half expected him to say it ,,👍

[@oOoMasterblasteroOo]

This might be one the greatest single moments in TNG history. Nothing like hearing the Klingon warsong chime in as the Bird of Prey decloak.

[@r.lewisblake7793]

Wow! Yeah, heard it in the brass, but someone needs to edit it in under the console beeps. Epic!

[@jodymusel6008]

Remember it's a show

[@repatch43]

People often forget to acknowledge the incredible music in Star Trek. Turn off the screen, turn off the voices, and in many episodes you can STILL tell what is going on, and WHO is involved, just by the music.

[@halwakka504]

I love that it begins immediately after he basically asks Tomalak if it's a good day to die.

[@bleirdo_dude]

So yes.

[@kenp7814]

You know the Klingon commanders we smiling when Picard said "Shall We Die Together?"

[@atherahmed6397]

This line of dialogue jumped out to me too. It is a really great example of mutually assured destruction being deployed as a war strategy

[@skoshman1]

@@atherahmed6397 An example of guile worthy of a Klingon.

[@daviddaugherty5528]

Only thing that would have topped it would have been Worf saying "Today is a good day to die".

[@randallsherman1309]

Imagine the howls of laughter aboard the Birds-of-Prey, lol

[@girlgarde]

Yeah, their crews likely had a big laugh at the Romulans' expense and how the Romulans turned tail and ran like scared targs......

[@r.lewisblake7793]

The bloodwine flowed and Khaless strode amongst them.

[@SportyMabamba]

Bullet holes for maga hats it’s almost like SFX has advanced since the late 80s / early 90a

[@wakcedout]

@Bullet holes for maga hats really....thst name.
Do us a favor and run like the romulan targ you are. And youtube allowing a username which not only condones but calls for violence against people over a stupid opinion.
Take a lesson from the tellarites

[@CatsClaw44]

@Bullet holes for maga hats Did you notice how much better the writing is for this as compared to the CBS Star Trek Franchise?

[@ricaard]

"Shall we die together?"
One of my favorite lines from the entire series!

[@demarcusfaulkner7411]

Agreed

[@Spookssga]

For the Klingons it would have been a GLORIOUS battle.

[@willdavis3802]

Probably for the Klingons benefit that he threw that in. They would be up for it, and appreciate the sentiment.

[@AllyBubblesSpriggs]

BEST LINE EVER!!!!!!!

[@Dan-vo7vc]

@@willdavis3802 absolutely. E
I think everything he said, "honorable," etc, was for the benefit of the listening Klingons. Otherwise the lines and attitude would've been a little out of character.

[@themandownthehall]

Rest in Peace Tomalak who was played by Andreas Katsulas also known as Ja"kar in Babylon 5. Great actor

[@KilliK69]

G'Kar

[@MrTheMerks]

He was a lifelong chain-smoker and that ended up costing him his life. One actor at a convention said that whenever he wasn't acting he had a cigarette in his hand lit and smoking all the time

[@MrTheMerks]

Still Andreas was one of the best human beings I've ever met. At first he has a audience sing Row Row Row Your Boat and when we were done he said thank you you made an old man happy you did a skip and a jump they said now I answer anything you haven't asked any went on to answer until no one was in line. What a fine human being was

[@SonnyBubba]

I wonder if Andreas ever got his ham.
(There’s a video of a Babylon 5 reunion that explains what I’m talking about.

[@kevinearle8955]

Wow! I did not know Tomalak was Mr Katsulas. Really great actor! Love his character in Babylon V.

[@girlgarde]

I love how Tomalak looks shocked at the sudden appearance of the Klingon warships and has his previous smug smirk wiped out. He clearly underestimated Picard here......

[@cmj0929]

ryan macdonald “if the cause is just and honorable “ he told him right there amazing

[@wildgurgs3614]

@@cmj0929 I didn't pick that up until just now too LOL

[@scarboroughjames7]

He always underestimates Picard.

[@skystreak1983]

It's always a game of chess with the Romulans. Tomalak realized he was outplayed.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

To be fair, I'm sure they would not have expected the Klingons to also risk war with the Romulans.

[@bobpage6597]

This was a perfect example of two things: forward planning and understanding your enemy.
I would say its perhaps fair that Picard always had reservations around Jarok's veracity, smelling a possible ambush, hence his forward planning in getting the Klingons to assist. Also, in understanding how the Romulans behave, they will only risk confrontation when the odds are so heavily in their favour that defeat is virtually impossible. The Enterprise naturally couldn't win against 2 Warbirds, but with 3 Klingon K'Vort class battlecruisers at their back the certainty of Romulan victory is very much eliminated. Thus, they suddenly won't want to fight as we saw, instead choosing to slink away to live another day!
Great writing!

[@Sirtop13]

Picard was a tactical genius. He just preferred diplomacy and peace over fighting. I forgot who did it, but someone broke down why the Picard Maneuver was so brilliant in a video.

[@2adamast]

A perfect example of plot development. He could have brought in all ships from the start, instead of playing the goat hoping to survive the first bite: Oh you brought two ships, .... but you didn't know I brought four

[@novacolonel5287]

Even two K'Vorts (not battlecruisers, but enlarged and heavier armed B'Rels, maybe heavy cruisers) are barely a match for a D'Deridex. In a one-on-one, those ships are suprior to anything else until the Sovereign came out.

[@bobpage6597]

@@novacolonel5287 K'Vorts in Trek lore are known to be significantly larger than the B'Rel Birds of Prey, and they were established as battlecruisers in 'Yesterday's Enterprise' - there's no reason for their hull classification to change in the prime timeline would be my view.

[@Timeward76]

​​@@novacolonel5287ne thing to keep in mind: Most of a D'Deridex's weapons are front-mounted, and this was an ambush counting on overpowering the enterprise. With their ambush so expertly predicted and a klingon war cruiser up each of their asses, those warbirds would be heavily fired upon before having a chance to fire back properly. And Romulans dont like sticking around for a fight like this, even if the odds might still be in their favor.

[@HR-yd5ib]

The design of the enterprise (interior as well as exterior) has aged amazingly well.

[@3Rayfire]

They went for futuristic, but understated.

[@battousaihimura7853]

She is a classy lady, will always look good :)

[@ThunderAppeal]

The look in Worfs eyes when he says 'Romulan disruptors are powering down sir', that is some savage Klingon shit right there.
Damn good acting.

[@Metallirocks]

I imagine worf standing there with a raging hard on ready to spray his shorts at that moment.

[@ThunderAppeal]

@@Metallirocks I suspect the Klingons used Ludicrous speed to get to the rendevous point.

[@Metallirocks]

@@ThunderAppeal I bet their warbirds were flying apart at the seems.

[@3Rayfire]

His eyes man, it looks like he's trying his best not to laugh.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

One of my favorite things about Picard: He knew fair fights are for suckers.

[@DanielTsosie]

@MikkelRS No military commander wants a fair fight. You want to make the poor bastards die for their country, not your own men :D

[@MediumRareOpinions]

@@DanielTsosie "I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien, I'm very much alive and intend to stay that way"

[@munninn3823]

Is there such a thing as a fair fight?

[@bensisko4651]

@@DanielTsosie Good use of a General Patton quote!

[@llynellyn]

The funny thing is, two D'deridex class warbirds still outmatch one Galaxy class and four birds of prey. The animators should have put more Klingon ships in the scene, instead they just made two of the birds of prey 10x their normal size, leading to one of the most comically badly animated ship scenes in TNG.

[@jmwild1]

I love Worf's smirk as he sends the signal to the Klingons.

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

the Enterprise D crossed the line for the last time✊✊

[@Shane-Singleton]

The musical score to this scene was pure genius. The Klingons decloaking is pretty obvious but when Picard tells Tomalak about how they would be willing to give their lives for the just and honorable cause at 3:15 you get that lone trumpet. It always brings tears to my eyes.

[@Nicolas_Cage_Bees]

Not just that, but at 3:25 as soon as it shifts back to Tomalak's face on the viewscreen, that subtle Klingon theme starts playing foreshadowing what's about to happen and of course it comes in full swing as Worf sends the message. I just love the music in this series.

[@gimmeboobes]

Clarinet, with a small group of accompanying strings, but yes, a musical note of quiet nobility and resolve. Genius.

[@christophermcmanus5103]

That lone trumpet is because is mirrors Henry V which is one of the themes of the episode. We start with data reciting Henry V, then we get Picard asking Data how the crew are to mirror the scene then we get the Henry V hopeless cause line here, "if the cause is just then we are prepared to die" the lone trumpet is a medieval trumpet to underscore the Henry V line.
The Klingon twist and music is entirely separate

[@kegginstructure]

@@christophermcmanus5103 - good catch on the Henry V reference, one of the best scenes from that play.

[@danieldickson8591]

I also appreciate how when Tomalak makes his parting remarks, the Romulan theme composed by Ron Jones plays subtly under him. (Rick Berman firing Ron Jones was a real loss to the series.)

[@kxmode]

An visual representation of the expression, "speak softly and carry a big stick"

[@SoranoGuardias]

You mean speak softly and confident because you have the biggest ace in the hole yet.

[@kxmode]

@@SoranoGuardias that's what the "big stick" implies. But cool on you if you prefer that way.

[@mps3chicago]

Or like Hondo says " Speak softly and drive a big tank"

[@daneriksson8947]

Was about to say something then i saw you wrote stick😊

[@kxmode]

In an episode called Future Imperfect, Riker says to Picard, "You yourself have said it's always a chess game with the Romulans. Move - countermove, guile and deceit." That is very much on display here.

[@AvengerBB1]

I just love how they portrayed the obvious respect that Tomalok has for Picard as an adversary. The two characters play off each other beautifully as did Andreas and Patrick.

[@RobertNielsen1970]

Reminds me of the Romulan commander and Captain Kirk in "Balance of Terror." Lenard and Shatner played off each other beautifully, just like these two men. And just like Picard and Tomalok, you could tell the Romulan Commander and Kirk, even though they didn't _like_ each other, clearly _respected_ each other.

[@christophermcmanus5103]

Did Patrick and Andreas ever play off each other? Did they ever have scenes together? A scene like this they would both be filming on different days talking into blue screen or camera. There's no scope to play off each other

[@timothyp873]

This is a perfect microcosm of the political situation in TNG. The romulans are powerful enough to take on the federation or the Klingons on their own, but they would not be able to take on both at the same time.

[@KingdomOfDimensions]

The Romulans could take the Federation but supposing they could achieve victory it would still be Pyrrhic, and even without the Klingon-Federation Alliance the former might still take the opportunity to strike at the Romulans and settle old scores while they're committed against the Federation.

[@AvangionQ]

Romulans were always counterpunchers, they don't like to strike first unless sufficiently threatened ... skirmishes and power plays more likely than all-out war

[@GibsonVienna]

The Germans in TNG.

[@AllknowingUnknown]

@Steven Strain "Contrary to the propaganda" or something like that!
I've always loved it when other powers respected the federation as adversaries.
Kurn even has a moment like The romulan commander in an episode of ds9 which name escapes me atm

[@diegorhoenisch62]

@Jim Barrows Actually, if one considers the world politics of the 1960s(when TOS was written), the Klingons were the Soviets while the Romulans were the Chinese communists(at the time, Taiwan was recognised by the US and the UN, whereas "red" China, was not).
As for your comments about tactics, I find your comment about the relative cowardice of Russians to be groundless. I'm not a fan of their domestic and international policies, but cowardice is not a Russian trademark. Bad planning, staying with lost causes; yes; cowardice; no way.
Cheers,
Alan Tomlinson

[@odysseusrex5908]

I never realized it before, but there is an interesting historical reference here. During the first Punic War, I believe it was, the Romans captured two Carthaginian warships. Their bows were displayed in the Forum, just as Tomalok plans to do with Enterprise. They became platforms for speakers to use in public debates. Their shape was similar to that of parrots' beaks, and so they came to be called. The Latin word for parrot's beak is, "rostrum".

[@jondaly5920]

Interesting. Thanks.

[@jdd8826]

Thank you!

[@ronaldcustard4636]

It’s Tomalok not tomolog

[@coldwynn]

Good stuff.

[@odysseusrex5908]

@@ronaldcustard4636 Fair enough. Corrected. Thank you.

[@joeyboedeker7205]

Thinking Picard would roll in to a danger zone without backup was his first mistake.
Talking smack was his second.

[@ClaudeMagicbox]

Kingons: you ask for 3 ships Picard, what is there for us in exchange?
Picard: you will either kill some Romulans or die in nonsense battle.
Klingon: YESSSSSSSS...

[@FireLordJohn3191]

Or see the Romulans absolutely humiliated before me.

[@ytafan4068]

@@FireLordJohn3191 They also got a chance to get detailed scans of the Warbirds. A military and intelligence coup of sorts for the Klingons. They now know what the Warbirds are capable of and can begin to adjust their tactics to deal with them.

[@ryank5424]

When Jean Luc Picard makes a threat, it's anything but idle.

[@genxlife]

Romulan Commander Tomalak. In another life, he was the Narn Regime's ambassador to Babylon 5.

[@davincent98]

And yet, in this scene, he's acting more like a Centauri

[@Cowinator66]

Thought he sounded familiar

[@niklasdahlgren7641]

Man, seeing this video just makes me miss Andreas Katsulas even more.
He was good as Tomalak but he perfected his craft with G'Kar.

[@jaysinha0]

@@niklasdahlgren7641 Andreas was an absolutely fantastic actor. Missed.

[@Aventium]

Gowron should know from this precedent is that Picard's gratitude is worth at least 3 cloaked ships.

[@Eddie42023]

Khem Pek was in charge at this time. I think this was even before 'Yesterday's Enterprise'.

[@TheCormTube]

Yeah he's referring to when Picard struggled to get a single bird of prey off Gowron.

[@Eddie42023]

@@TheCormTube point taken.

[@TheMax0005]

*BIG EYES*

[@shiftyshamsk]

Klingon empire is pure class. They must have balls the size of coconuts.

[@Name-ps9fx]

White Van Man
The Romulans, on the other hand… I suppose they have a different definition of courage.

[@sword4005]

what they have are blueballs since Picard didn't let them fight

[@Name-ps9fx]

Dark Kronis
You misunderstand the term “blue balls”...lack of ejaculation after a long period of foreplay (or abstinence while yearning) is what causes BB, not withheld fights.
Also, Picard prevented nothing...it was the Romulans who chose to leave prior to a conflict with the Klingons. They were all gung ho for a fight when it was in their favor 2 to 1....but when the Klingons showed up, suddenly it was 2 to 1 _against_ , and they tucked tail and -ran- walked briskly to the exit.

[@grassulus158]

VZ_ 342 You failed to understand what they meant by that. So, have this as compensation. r/woosh

[@JoeBee721]

Watermelons.

[@trentreffner5699]

Tomalak: "We are here for archaeological research."
Picard: "ARCHAEOLOGICAL RSEARCH!!!! Can I join?!?! Oh man I have this AWESOME..."

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

that's it Picard has crossed the line decloak open fire pinched off their power transfer fields🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jillevans1109]

I love how Riker is smiling at Picard 3:49
That's the best thing about being friends with the klingons you can call on them to help you when you need it

[@demarcusfaulkner7411]

Or if you just want to kick someone's ass.

[@sarahnachtrose]

@@demarcusfaulkner7411 Yes, it doesn't take long to persuade Klingons to kick someone's ass. The Klingons in the scene were certainly not happy that it was so peaceful. On the other hand, a lot of liters of blood wine have surely flowed when they toasted the cowardice of the Romulans.

[@demarcusfaulkner7411]

@@sarahnachtrose true most likely they will sing songs and make many stories about that day.

[@bobsmith962]

They always love to fight

[@19brittani]

THEY LOVE THE STING OF BATTLE.. KLINGONS WANT THE SMOKE... love them in TNG@@bobsmith962

[@GBRyker61]

Tomalak was playing checkers. Picard was playing chess.

[@VagueMemory]

No.. Tomalak instigated the whole situation, putting out fake intelligence to test his own officer, knowing he would defect and that it would ultimately lure the Enterprise into the neutral zone, allowing him to capture the Enterprise. How can you say he was not playing on the same level as Picard? Come on now.

[@GBRyker61]

@@VagueMemory you underestimate Picard if you think he and Tomalak were on the same level. Picard's a little smarter than that dude. At some point Picard figured out this was all a setup, so he called for some cloaked backup. Those Klingon BOPs were shadowing the Enterprise before the Romulan ships decloaked.

[@ilovebrandnewcarpets]

Both were playing chess.....but Picard is a Grand Master :-)

[@freezetasticvoyage19]

And Tomalak's Commanders' were playing connect 4. lol

[@freezetasticvoyage19]

If it was G'kar, however...

[@Malrottian]

3:01 When the shirt get straightened . . . it's about to go down.

[@AllyBubblesSpriggs]

Yes!!!!!

[@charleskuckel3173]

How to win at poker with a Romulan? STACK the DECK!

[@Kalenz1234]

How to win at poker with a Romulan? Have a Klingon at the table.

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

Bring in some Remans, the Romulans would be so preoccupied that they wouldn't have their head in the game.

[@donaldpaluga]

Or use your special....appendange-Londo Mollari

[@Kalenz1234]

@@donaldpaluga wrong universe :P

[@Spookssga]

Captain, WE now have the upper hand. Data prepare our next Bluff.

[@shandorunia]

Nothing was fired, no punches were thrown. Nothing but great writing, great acting, and a good soundtrack.

[@hobomike6935]

The show was produced when the Cold War era had _just_ ended in 1991, where geopolitical tension was the order of the day.
The writers knew how to show intimidating opponents without actually having them duke it out for real.

[@Trek001]

Picard: Mr Worf?
Worf: Aye, Sir... Klingon warships, armed and ready, Sir
Tomalak: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@Dingosean]

Picard "Shall We Die Together?"
Klingons "SO TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!"

[@LukeLovesRose]

What a beautiful moment for the Klingon-Federation alliance. You gotta love how coolly Picard handles everything

[@fryfry377]

Even if you don't like some of the lackluster battles on Next Gen... you gotta appreciate this moment. When 3 K'Vort cruisers came out of nowhere and made the Romulans pee their pants... no battle, but that's only because the Romulans KNEW they coulda gotten the shit kicked out of them. Superior tactics on Picard's part.

[@scarboroughjames7]

I love the music that plays when the Klingon War Birds are decloaking.

[@brianvincentdoucet4273]

James Scarborough, you and me both!

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Sounds like Ron Jones used a little bit of Jerry Goldsmith's Klingon theme.

[@llynellyn]

The music makes the scene feel so epic, until you get distracted by how awful the animation is xD

[@THEGRUMPTRUCK]

This entire scene is terrific, but the best part is how Tomalak thinks the entire time he has the situation under control even as his lies are unraveling. Once the Klingon warships decloak we see him briefly lose composure, and then he tries to bluff Picard, only to have his bluff called, and then decides it isnt worth dying over.

[@288theabe]

Tomalok is one of the most underrated villains in all of Trek.

[@Martok86]

Would have been so great to see him in DS9 as Admiral as romulan equivalent to Martok.

[@288theabe]

NVek 😱😱😱😱😱😱 my mind is blown, good sir. That would’ve been epic.

[@MozTS]

288theabe actor was busy with babylon 5

[@Martok86]

imagine those two constantly mocking and (heavily) fight over their empires agendas, but on the field helping each other out. And in the end of the series admitting they respect each other and part ways as somewhat friends.

[@danielhausser8038]

* Tomalak

[@ChucklesMcbastard]

3:45 Players 4, 5, and 6 have joined the game.

[@AdmiralKarelia]

Tomalak: "Come now Picard, it's a 2-to-1 fight."
Klingons decloak
Picard: "That's right, it is."

[@dampnickers]

Epic! Not a shot fired. Not a single lens flare. Pure tense, drama.

[@thunderboltcougar5626]

Well that's salvos fired in the beginning. The Romulan trying to take head start by weakening Enterprise's front shield.
But yeah, the tense's real. Cool drama.

[@Taneth]

When your ships are so powerful, that fielding a city-levelling weapon is brushed off by the shields as a "tap on the shoulder"

[@rosePetrichor]

yes, we only occasionally get indications of how actually powerful these weapons are when not directed against technology that has means of defence against them. The armaments of a single starship would likely be sufficient to wipe out all life on several planets at the very least given their yields

[@themisbabalis]

Bravo Andrea. You've made Greeks proud everywhere. RIP.

[@paul1979uk2000]

The smugness of Worf's face when the Klingons decloak, it must have been hard work for him to contain himself from firing both phasers and torpidos lol, I bet the Klingons were thinking the same thing, praying a battle would begin.

[@williamrosmer8381]

i love the fact they set this up by cutting away from picard giving worf orders/checking up on a project he was working on throughout the episode

[@danieldickson8591]

Setting up for what was to come, so it wouldn't seem like a deus ex machina moment to the audience.

[@hughoneill9833]

Mu favourite tng scene by far. Always loved the romulan episodes. Loved the d'deridex class warbird. The sound when they decloak gives me goosebumps after 33 years !

[@MarcusTrinnias]

Picard: "Shall we die together?"
The Klingons: "Today IS a good day to die, Tomalok."

[@BammerD]

"So, Captain, how long shall we STARE at each other across the NEUTRAL ZONE!?"

[@normanlee6609]

if I may......STARE

[@brianvincentdoucet4273]

I recall hearing that line in the series finale “All Good Things...”.

[@danieldickson8591]

It was nice to see Tomalak one last time, but it did annoy me that Katsulas delivered those lines with the histrionic energy of G'Kar, not with Tomalak's smooth measured oiliness. Ah well, actors can get into habits when they play the same character a long time.

[@randr2141]

Such a scene. The Enterprise slowly turning tail to escape, to see the way free blocked at the last moment by the Romulans decloaking. One of my favourite scenes in sci-fi.

[@blackhawks81H]

The "Gromulan" or "Greek Romulan" as my family always called him, due to the fact that he looked exactly like a close family friend who was not only very Greek, but even owned a Greek restaurant.. Tomalak, is by far one of the best foils, especially for Picard, since they can both maintain a high level of verbal sparring, and even one of the best overall characters in all of Star Trek history. It's a shame we couldn't have seem way more of him, especially considering the Romulan storylines of this era were super solid. An excellent, nuanced character, played by an excellent actor. Tomalak is THE standard, by which all Star Trek adversaries should be measured. RIP Andreas Katsulas.

[@LargeFriesChocoShake]

Andreas Katsulias was Greek should you not have already surmised

[@novacolonel5287]

He was good, but the gold standard for any star trek adversary is Dukat.

[@KilliK69]

@@novacolonel5287 or even better Khan

[@ShrekWallBee]

RIP Andreas Katsulas :(

[@freezetasticvoyage19]

God bless Andreas Katulas.

[@r.lewisblake7793]

Wow! Had no idea. RIP. Great “foreign “ actor from that far off country called Missouri.

[@shinigami146]

I love the look from Riker at the end of the scene. Such admiration for his Captain.

[@starhaven321]

I like to think the klingons listening to that conversation had one hell of a laugh at the romulans backing down.

[@D80sman]

God I always loved the cloaking devices on them ships...

[@ruairicoburn8410]

I love the sound of a good Romulan decloak

[@checkoutmyyoutubepage]

Me too.

[@ireneparkin3360]

If anybody is thinking that they've heard Commander Tomalak's voice before, well you're right as he played G'Kar on Babylon 5.

[@Dan-vo7vc]

Yup, they re-used him, and the Warbird design for the Whitestars!
But it's okay, DS9 completely plagiarized B5 in retaliation lol

[@juliapigworthy]

And the one-armed man in The Fugitive movie.

[@mrwindsor9082]

He also played a mob boss in the movie 'Next of Kin.' This film also starred Liam Neeson and the late Patrick Swayze.

[@Rodelero]

TNG is the ONLY series I can watch every 10 years. These clips I found this morning has decided my third decade is time now. Sometimes I'm happy the human mind given time, can forget such great episodes so we can watch again..

[@Zeakthecat]

tomluk: i expect more than idle threats from you picard
picard: then you shall have it. mister worf.
worf: aye sir.
4 klingon warships decloak around the trio.
worf: klingon warships, armed and ready sir
picard: what shall it be tomluk?
tomluk: you still won't survive our assault!
picard: and you will not survive ours, shall we die together?
tomluk: i look forward to our next meeting captain.
worf (with a look of QUPLA on him): romulan disruptors are powering down sir.
romulan warships cloak away.
the scene is a great example of human willpower, and the human pokerface. don't fuck with humans, ever!

[@Snowwie88]

I see only 3 Klingon warships decloaking.

[@spicyfoodchaser9406]

Kirk was the master a high stakes poker

[@Andrew-qu7lq]

@@Snowwie88 It's interesting, I always thought of this as 4 warships, based on the positioning around the ships. Even though there were only 3 shown, I just expected that there was a 4th one out of the shot to the left of the Enterprise to mirror the one to the right.

[@felipepineda1585]

@@Snowwie88 - I think there were 5. But even 4 total, would give romulans a run for their money.

[@CaptainM792]

I wish we could see Tomalak during the dominion war in DS9, maybe bringing reinforcements to the station for defence against the dominion.

[@asheer9114]

G'Kar was too busy on Babilon 5 with advising Sheridan and fight for Narn's independence from Centauri's occupation. 😉

[@archonix]

@@asheer9114 He was on an exchange program. Starfleet got General Hague.

[@CaptainM792]

Asheer Perhaps IDW can include him in a future comic.

[@girlgarde]

I seem to imagine a scenario where Picard and the Enterprise-E along with some other starships aid a group of Romulan ships led by Tomalak being attacked by Jem'Hadar warships and later, Tomalak returns the favour and aids Picard against Jem'Hadar warships.

[@ValiantWrestling]

@@asheer9114 He could've been included in season 7 of DS9 as B5 had already ended by the time of filming the last season of DS9.

[@terrywest111]

Picard has an excellent understanding of Romulan tactics. He KNEW that this was what they were going to do and came prepared. Only those Klingons were probably disappointed the Romulans chickened out. lol

[@apa123APA]

Worf being in on this secret cloaked Klingon ship ploy must mean he's been shaking with excitement the entire time, impatient af for Picard to give him the cue.

[@Redshirt434]

That's why he said "not yet, Mr. Worf. This is just a tap on the shoulder." While the bridge is shuddering and shaking about as the lights go off and on.

[@jamiepeterson2230]

It was so great to see Adraus Katsulas playing in both what hes known for as Gkar in Babylon 5 and in Star Trek the next generation

[@xxlCortez]

Having him a regular character in Babylon 5 was what I missed in Star Trek.

[@Raja1938]

First time ever you see Federation, Klingon, and Romulan ships on screen at once.

[@valeriocorsetti7278]

In tos you see D7 klingon battlecruisers, a romulan bird of prey and the enterprise in the same scene.

[@Raja1938]

@@valeriocorsetti7278 No, that was a remastered CGI scene you saw in "The Enterprise Incident". The original broadcast version with physical models had only D7s and the Enterprise. Watch at 5:11 in this side-by-side comparison. ua-cam.com/video/oaRVNf-BCBA/v-deo.html

[@Nerval-kg9sm]

Andreas Katsulas. Yay, G'Kar.

[@andrewlocke3389]

B5 is my favorite show in part due to Andreas Katsulas.

[@Rapscallion2009]

Yeah. He was fantastic.

[@heyguyswhatshappening6210]

Rip Andreas katsulas

[@sujoygupta5264]

I wasn't in any way a fan of B5,...but For some reason Whenever he was on the screen, I found myself transfixed. especially when he was on screen with that guy Londo. extremely talented people.

[@BoloBouncer]

When you're facing down the class bully on the playground and the crazy kid takes your side.

[@silentzorah]

"I look forward to your next meeting, Captain."
"Romulan disruptors are powering down, Sir."
"...Fire."

[@frankthespank]

One of my favorite episodes, that defector was such a great story. Should of been a two parter.. or a whole season! I was biting my hand the first time I watched this scene.

[@danieldickson8591]

Jarok's fate was so sad.

[@frankthespank]

@@danieldickson8591 Yes…. the actor that played him (James Sloyan) did such an amazing job, he was so believable and made you feel for him. Damn what good TV!

[@RMJ1984]

In another reality, after the warbirds decloak, more romulan ships decloak and more warbirds decloak and they continue like that for minutes, hours, days even.

[@michaelkroger899]

klingons theme music and ships appeared..always highlight:)

[@DynastyGuy]

Imagine how Tomalok would have reacted if at 4:10 Picard had cut him off and basically gave him the same unreasonable terms of surrender speech he had just given a minute earlier.

[@stupidnamefilter]

I like it when the Federation and the Klingons work together.

[@Audioholics]

Not to Star Trek Picard, this is how Romulans look and act. They aren't Emo or humans with large ears and Irish accents. This is Star Trek.

[@Shadowkey392]

And so is Picard. It’s just that in Picard we get a more detailed look at the Romulans, and see a side of them not seen in this show.

[@ComicGladiator]

@@Shadowkey392 It's a side not shown in the show because it's dreadful fanfiction that tarnishes real Trek.

[@afieldingaf]

@@Shadowkey392 Picard isn't cannon the only thing that it is, is a dumpster fire that spits all over real trek

[@e4unow421]

Picard is shite.

[@darrenjaundrill2010]

I respectfully submit that this is peak TNG. The cast are entirely comfortable with themselves, each other and their characters with guest stars well integrated. The writing is excellent. The effects used to good effect with music perfectly attuned and complementary to the scene. We can tell they are enjoying their work. Love it.

[@danielhausser8038]

Luckily all those ships didn't accidentally crash into each other when cloaked. 😂

[@Not-Ap]

It's possible to detect ships that are cloaked even when cloaked.

[@danielhausser8038]

@@Not-Ap How so?

[@Not-Ap]

@@danielhausser8038 There were episodes in the DS9 that went over this and long story short the Feds, Roms, Klingons, and Cardassians all knew how to detect cloaked ships. The Roms and Klingons even more so since since they actively utilized the technology.

[@danielhausser8038]

@@Not-Ap That was years later than this episode and I doubt they can detect them "just so" without a detection grid etc.
Especially not on this episode or do you really think the Romulans wouldn't have at least mentioned Picard's ace up his sleeve to preempt him? Tomalak wouldn't have been so surprised. And why would Picard have gotten trapped here in the first place? Why were they all able to surprise each other here?

[@leeeastwood6368]

@@danielhausser8038, with a low yield tachyon burst!
yes, I'm a bit of a StarTrek nerd! ;-)

[@Halpin2006]

The lesson here is quite simple. Always carry insurance!

[@realtonysolo]

Klingons: Gah! The cowards!

[@danieldickson8591]

Bunch of gutless p'takhs.

[@Saddler1944]

Star Trek TNG: 1.5 million per episode on average adjusted in today's money for inflation lets call it 3.3 million. Moments like this where the tension and the threat of a battle is more exciting than having the battle it self.
Star Trek Discovery: 8.5 million per episode. Gives you a space battle or high octane CGI bore fest every episode to try to hide the fact they have no idea what Star Trek is.
Don't get me wrong when a TNG episode is bad its just about the worst thing you can watch on TV. I would still put up with a bad hour of TNG vs any hour of Discovery.

[@icemachine79]

Or Picard to be honest. It's not as bad as DISCO but it's rapidly beginning to close that gap.

[@DANIEL-ho4gr]

¡BIEN DICHO HERMANO...!

[@richardm3023]

@@icemachine79 I don't know. Listen to an hour of Bee Gee's songs or watch an hour of STD. What a nightmare.

[@andypetrovich2155]

@@richardm3023
I avoid all STD's. I use protection, it's called classic Trek.

[@r.lewisblake7793]

Do like me and just shut the “F” up and hope Quentin makes a Star Trek movie. Nothing else will satisfy. 🤪(all in jest)

[@darusfink1328]

When Tomalak says. "I expected more from you than an idle threat Picard," you can hear the Klingon theme song partially play slowly.

[@September2004]

3:38 Good use of Star Trek TMP Klingon music.

[@davidthompson882]

This was one of the coolest TNG moments, I remember when I first saw it, gives you goosebumps

[@matthewcoster5535]

I like how the Klingons showed up like a they just had their hands on the Romulans' shoulder. Just; "Hey friend. What's going on over here?"

[@davidahlstrom7533]

It's nice the way the same actors come back to Star Trek to reprise their same roles, sometimes decades later. A classic franchise.

[@Warkive]

I can't even imagine how pissed the Klingons would be in a situation like that to have it not end in battle. Frankly, I agree with them.

[@yaldabaoth2]

Seeing the romulans run away scared and humiliated is almost better than them being dead.

[@TechnoMageB5]

You die a thousand deaths by fearing one. - Klingon proverb

[@oldtwinsna8347]

No songs will be sung, unfortunately, of this day.

[@kuribo1]

Tomalok the Captain Picard of the Romulan Star Empire. Dude must have been the most important Captain in the entire star empire.

[@lukenukem2441]

Remember watching this on TV. Obviously before internet days and this was exciting stuff!

[@corvus1970]

One of my favorite conflict-scenes in the whole of Trek. Brilliantly scripted, and brilliantly portrayed.

[@LeftyStratPlayer]

RIP Andreas Katsulas.

[@freezetasticvoyage19]

God bless Andreas Katulas.

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

all I can say about this is...surprise mothafuckas!

[@Scribe31us]

It is a crime Andreas Katsulas isn't with us anymore. That man could bring gravitas to anything.

[@BlackSharn]

Season 3 was TNG in full stride after taking those first 2 seasons to sort things out.

[@Locutus]

Ahhh, Picard's gratitude is gratifying.

[@masterchief2739]

Picard: Ah! A game of chess! I predicted your move, and countered with 3 more moves. Check mate?
Sisko: I have bigger guns than you! I bet you blow up first. Now I suggest you retreat, my trigger finger is itching.
Janeway: I dont respond kindly to threats. Mr. Tuvok, FIRE EVERYTHING!

[@spicyfoodchaser9406]

Kirk would have opened fire beamed the romalan women on and won the day

[@Kingjustin1019]

spicy food chaser all while Spock is just shaking his head.

[@Kalenz1234]

Janeway: Mr Tuvok, how many photon torpedoes do we have left?
Tuvok: Eleven Captain.
Janeway: Fire all 70 photon torpedoes.
Tuvok: Aye, Captain.

[@vgernyc]

"Who says there's never a Klingon around when you need one?"

[@Stogie2112]

Tomalak: "Consider the men and women you would lead into a lost cause...!"
*The Picard Grin*
Tomalak: "Uh ohhhh....."

[@MrValz0]

Now imagine if this was Discovery. All you need to do is launch 100,000 drones and shuttles, pew pew for 30 minutes and the battle is easily won.

[@AvangionQ]

The threat of battle holds more tension than the battle itself ... the aftermath of victory by threat of force is better than using force itself, fewer casualties result

[@starhaven321]

You mean the 30+ ships plus the 100,000 odd drones vs 2 until a couple Klingon ships show up. Most retarded plot armour I think i've seen in Startrek

[@Kalenz1234]

Don't talk about STD here. It's disgusting ^^

[@tuchehstone]

Good God! You know what I miss nowadays?
Solid writing like this! Star Trek isn't about special effects; it's about the interpersonal relationships and the drama. The Klutzman version of Trek is missing something at its very core: 💝.

[@elviakerlick1163]

The kids today can't write.

[@MrHatoi]

Everybody's gangsta till the Klingons decloak

[@ExJapTer]

I always imagine the Klingon captains being all disappointed it wasn't a fight.

[@Great_America]

Technically, the Romulans also crossed the neutral zone.