Hey guys, just to sum up this video. If you use "Auto" it WILL use your custom game profiles. If you use "Gamepad" it will BYPASS all your custom game profiles and won't use them.
Appreciate the efforts dude, you working away on problems and solutions are what give every owner a better experience. When it comes to auto mode i think that is actually a somewhat positive thing to be honest, it just could be clearer what Auto mode does from Asus themselves. But actually having a setting that sets each game to the program you have setup is pretty cool and it actually warns you of this when you try to launch a game in desktop mode by saying you have a custom file setup for this game do you want to switch to auto mode to use it... so yeh i think thats pretty cool and being able to switch to controller mode to go back to stock controller settings is pretty cool too... it is confusing though and could be clearer what Auto actually does. However i too have had the problem where if i delete a profile it somehow remembers that profile and still sets it up that way, i think i said something similar to you on a previous video few days ago... thats very strange, so yeh look forward to the next one, cheers.
Thanks! Yeah I think it was your comment and someone elses where I started looking into it further. On that pop up there is also a "Don't show again" message which some people might click not really knowing the difference, and then wonder why the settings aren't saving. However, the main issue is the triggers not showing 100% for a lot of people makes it where you'd have to go into every game and set it to 90% (or whatever deadzone there is) or use gamepad for a global preset. Which is going to be a real problem if people are having trigger issues to go into every game individually. It'd be nice if Asus had a "set this for all games" check box to reset them and be able to fix triggers, then set custom profiles. For me, I play a lot of driving games and the trigger issues are horrible. In other games I could see where it doesn't matter too much though. Maybe they could even add a "Use Game Profile" option instead of Auto. So then Auto is a leave and forget, then have a "Custom Game" one that will show up. Just like you said though it's weird and not intuitive. Especially the profiles still holding values after being deleted.
@@filt3rless yeh agree with everything you said mate, im fortunate i dont have any trigger issues they were spot on out the box but yeh if its not like that for everyone then thats a problem.
@@filt3rless ahh i dunno about that, i did have to take the sticks out and put some tape on the stems to help the caps stay on more snug to get rid of some clicking when rotating them... besides that its been golden haha. cheers buddy.
@@jinx20001 I had to do that on all of the Ally's I've had! I have a whole video recording of it. I ended up cutting tiny slivers of tape and putting it in the joystick end itself, then pushing it down. And they feel super premium now. One one of my Ally units (I've had 3 now), the right joystick felt like what you said, double click anytime I'd move it, then click it down.
Great video pal. Looking forward for your 3rd video to fix that issue with the controls. I've have simmilar issue with game called Escape from Tarkov. Its doesnt meter what i try to change on settings anyway not all buttons working it's looks like something overriding them.
Good to know! Can you also make a video on forcing the newest AMD graphics drivers and what the performance difference is compared to the official Asus driver? There's a guide posted on the r/ROGAlly subreddit and it seems many people have updated.
I posted that guide. 😅 I can tell you that from my testing, performance when using the Turbo profile improved, but performance in any other profile got worse.
Hey thanks! I personally don't mind tinkering, however, I don't think it's something I'd put on the channel. There can be weird bugs, where AMD Control panel stops working (because of windows overriding the driver and having a miss match between the driver/software), or issues when Asus actually releases the drivers, etc. So it's not something I'd recommend people do, except those that like tinkering (like myself). However, when the new drivers do drop from Asus, I'll definitely be running a few benchmarks and making a video on it :)
@@filt3rless The AMD Control Panel fix is included in the guide. But yes, once that's done, you will only be getting updates from AMD. The new drivers fix a few artifact issues people have been having with emulated games. So at least to the emulation crowd, its a worthwhile update.
@@FahdRiyami Hey, yeah I wasn't meaning its not working up front. But if Windows or Asus overrides the driver, then you could get an AMD miss match for the control panel. Which might or might not happen. But if it does it'd leave a lot of people that aren't tech savvy wondering why. I've even had multiple times where I install official drivers from AMD (on other laptops & the ROG on a fresh install via USB) and windows overrides the driver causing the control panel to stop working until re-installing again. I've seen the artifact issues as well in emulation. I might try them out myself :)
@@FahdRiyami Hey, just saw the guide. Nice work on that, very well put together :). I also saw the 800Mhz issue, so I probably won't test it. But I was wondering why kind of improvements you were seeing in Turbo. Where they pretty decent or just slight improvements?
There is another problem with the emulation. Older games AC do not emulate left and right mouse button presses at the same time. Those. if you're playing stalker, you can't walk, aim and shoot at the same time. The right trigger will simply not work, or will work with a delay. You can also test this in Modern Warfare 2009, with keyboard emulation.
That reminds me of a keyboard I had a while back where it'd disable a key if you pressed certain keys. That's a really annoying issue. I think reWASD would actually solve that though, as you can map click, keyboard keys, etc to it and it takes control of the controller completely. I'm not 100% if it fixes it, but I'd imagine it does.
Wow thanks dude, i was wondering why days gone starting having vibration, even though i had vibration set to 0% under "gamepad". Gonna leave mine set to gamepad since i plan to use the one profile for all my games.
Hey bro a thought been in my mind since the ally dropped...so you know the samsung s23ultra has a feature were you connect the charger and go into the settings and have it bypass charging the battery and goes straight to powering up the chips an whatever else so can play games without damaging your battery I think the ally should have had that feature as well what do you think?
Hey, that is on by default. If you have the charger plugged in, and it's fully charged (or set to the charge limit you set) it completely bypasses the battery so it's not constantly draining/recharging it :)
Realized this a while back, auto is all I use as I have custom controls mapped to the m1 and m2 buttons per game since I am used to playing with controllers that have rear paddles..
Nice! I like using the paddles as well, but I just use the gamepad mode, then will change it if I'm needing different mappings. I mainly use the same mappings and run G-Helper with AC completely disabled so it works well in that case.
@@filt3rless I am considering these other options but so far so good with AC, haven’t had the need to use anything else yet and I enjoy tinkering to find the right balance of fps and tdp with all the best graphics I can muster from the game…
@@EdwinJeudy Glad it's working well for you. If you're enjoying it no reason to switch really. I just could not stand AC. I have had about 15 Asus laptops and years and a lot of experience with AC and while it's improved A LOT, I still don't like it much. The main reason I use G-Helper though is because I set Silent mode to 13W, Balanced to 17W and Turbo to 25W, so I get way quieter fans and Silent and Turbo modes are actually usable. In AC Silent is almost useless (10 watts), in Turbo it boost WAY too high (43 watts), Performance mode boost to 20W for 2 minutes, and manual mode is ridiculously loud. So now I have a set locked wattage, quiet fans, and easy switching.
@@filt3rless after todays update, I am going to try g-helper. I like being able to use m1 and m2 as different buttons and I’m sure someone will figure out how to get that done…
@@filt3rless ok after trying to set the custom tdp values, I can’t see that g helper is in any way having any kind of effect. My games still seem to be using other profiles even after disabling ac…
Super helpful and makes sense! Now the only thing is, what does auto mean when it’s not on any game but at the desktop? Is it just switching between desktop and game mode or something?
Auto is where it switches between desktop and "gamepad" mode, except it doesn't. Which is so weird, it does go to gamepad mode, but it's the game specific profile mode... I don't know why Asus didn't make Auto and "Gamepad" be the same. It's a bit confusing and just weird what Asus did. I'm hoping to have a very in-depth video coming out sometime soon covering everything about the controls :)
This has answered the question on why I had problems with setting individual game profiles which did not work. If I understand correctly I would need to set it to auto to pick up my custom game profile controls? I tried to create a profile for modern warfare 3, which did not support controller as an old game. However, I kept selecting the controller setting instead of auto, which probably explains why it didn’t work.
Yes, that is exactly why it wasn't working. It's beyond strange that Asus did it this way. I used to think Auto meant it'd automatically switch to Desktop / Gamepad (which it does do), but the actual "Gamepad" setting is completely different and overrides all the custom profiles you have set. So you'll need to be in "Auto" and it select the gamepad mode automatically while still showing Auto for it to use custom profiles. Even reading what I just wrote is beyond confusing, just like the choices Asus made with the way this function works 🤣
Can you make a comprehensive guide on how to eliminate the dead zone on analogs? Steam method works for me but not for gamepass games. You're doing a good job btw.
Hey thanks. Do you have inner deadzones where when you move the stick it's not registering till you press it a ways? Or is it outer deadzones where it's registering 100% way too quick?
I just looked into this further and I do see what you mean. The xbox controllers are registering sooner. Upon looking at calibration/testing software if you press slightly on the xbox controller, it's registering further on the mapper than the Ally. So you can use 3rd party software to "help" but that is a design flaw on the Ally. I hadn't personally noticed it till you said something. I'm going to test it a bit more and see if there are some settings I could come up with that would help people.
Asus should put out an update to fix this. GamePad mode should use the custom profile if it is set for the game else it should use the global profile. Also, they should provide a menu option where we can go and delete the gamepad profile that we don't need anymore. I have many profile for the games that I have already removed from Ally. It is super annoying to go through all those names in the select template list. And also the power profiles that are associated with the games are annoying (since we are not able to reset them), when using G-Helper because I believe that even when I have the G-Helper running in the background if I launch a game that has a power profile associated with it, it will use the old power profile from the armouy crate (I have to double check on this but there should be an option to clear/reset those settings) Edit: Nice find on the modes :)
Thanks and you're 1000% right!!. Auto should just be to switch back and forth "Automatically" from desktop so you can use mouse and desktop shortcuts. It makes 0 sense to have gamepad not use the game profiles... Also I agree with what you said with G-Helper. I think it's remembering profiles, even deleted ones and doing it's own thing overriding G-Helper. Overall a completely frustrating experience that is definitely not user friendly. And it's another reason I run G-Helper with everything Asus disabled. I'm tired of messing with settings and would like to just play a game, on a gaming handheld... 🤣 They definitely need to add that "reset" settings button for people. If someone has been using custom profiles and then realizes they have a joystick issue, it'd be a nightmare to go into every single game and change that, or a trigger issue, or any other problems.
Hey, yes I made it private. I had always used Windows Calibration over years and years and thought it worked great, but after getting a few comments I did further testing and it wasn't working in multiple driving games (which are the most important games to have proper trigger calibration). Here is a video I did a while back (ua-cam.com/video/SIXmsfNa0PY/v-deo.html) and it's not as detailed but this method is what you should use. It calibrates across everything (when in Gamepad mode). To be able to use Auto, you'll have to go into each game and drop down the deadzone. I even use windows to see the levels, but you can use Gamepad Tester (Google search) to calibrate it as well. Hope this helps :)
Gamepad mode will override everything (Steam, Windows Calibration, everything). And from my testing, if you're in Auto it'll still use the custom profile you have set in Armoury Crate.
Yeah, so the way to get it working in Auto would be to go into Armoury Crate. Go to Forza and hit "X" and then you can set a custom game profile. Auto uses those custom game profiles. I think using "Gamepad" mode is better though, I just wanted to let you know why it wasn't working in Auto. That's the reason I made the video. It's so weird that "Auto" uses the custom game profiles and "Gamepad" overrides and uses the "Gamepad Mode" settings that you set. I also use the back buttons for shifting and they're great :)
Same, especially after this finding. I do see where if you know about this going into it, it could be neat to have "Auto" for your custom game profiles, then always have the "Gamepad" mode to override them. That could be helpful in some circumstances. However, the implementation isn't worth it to me at all and I won't be using it. Gamepad all the way, and I'm planning to calibrate it in Gamepad then completely disable or even uninstall Armoury Crate again.
this has been driving me potty for the last week..... i figured something fishy was going on with the game profiles as sometimes a profile with the game was active and other times the general game pad profile was active. so what were saying is auto is the option for the actual game profile and not game controller mode....
Yeah 🤣. I ran into the same issues too, and was wondering what the heck was going on. You'd think in "gamepad mode" it'd use your "game" profiles. Now the neat thing is, if you like AC, now you can have a global one, and game profiles so you can easily switch between them :). However, if you've already been using AC, and have a trigger deadzone or joystick deadzone then every game has to be set manually that you've already started. Or just use gamepad mode to bypass al the profiles. I'm planning on making a video with a deeper dive into all this. Like an ultimate controller guide with sections and break downs for every use case possible.
@@filt3rless yep..... theres a 3rd layer of shennanigens though..... if you launch steam in big picture mode, the steam controller configs can be dowenloaded and used....... whether or not they are being applied is something ill have to ask mystic mog...... but thought id mention it hahaahhaa ;)
@@toweleeielite 🤣. I have a video coming out tomorrow about a program called reWASD that will override everything from my testing. But it's specifically to fix deadzones, which I just found out about and definitely see why people are having issues with how long they take to register.
@@filt3rless dont..... iv got a whole new one for ya..... on battlefield 2042, the controller moves faster to the right than the left...... hahahahahahaha, just testing other games now to see if they are affected. works fine if i switch sticks but iv had bullcrap like this before on onther EA games.
@@toweleeielite It's like playing another game every time you use the controls. They might work like they're supposed to or not 🤣. There is a way to calibrate dead zones per zone in reWASD so you'd be able to turn down specifically to the right to get it more even. But it's pretty annoying we even have to be doing this. I've never had to worry about any of it with Xbox controllers.
Just the opposite 🤣. I know it's beyond confusing. So you'll want to use "Auto" when you want to use the Custom Game Profiles. If you select "Gamepad Mode" it will bypass and not use the custom game profiles.
I need help on getting my gamepad control to work on GTA V using epic launcher. Auto, Gamepad and Desktop mode just doesn't work for me even with custom remapping and profile.
Hey, I'm not too sure what would be causing that. I use a program called reWASD which basically creates a virtual controller at the driver level and it seems to work great. It could be worth checking out. But it should be working if you're in Gamepad mode and the embedded controller is enabled. Have you tried hooking up an external Xbox controller to see if that works?
@@filt3rless okay I'll take a look into it, I have not tried hooking up a physical controller as I do not plan to carry one when I bring the ally out. Thanks for the suggestion though 👍🏻
Are you using an external controller or the Ally? If you're using the Ally, then you'll want to be in "Gamepad" mode. If you're using an external controller you'll want to make sure "Embedded controller" is turned off. Also if you're not using an external controller then I'd try putting it in Gamepad mode, reboot to be safe, and ensure "Embedded controller" is on. If that's still not working, I'm not too sure. It might be something with roblox, as it shouldn't have anything to do with the controller at that point. One thing you could also try is see if an external xbox controller actually does work. Just make sure you turn "Embedded controller" of when you do that because if not, it'll detect both the Ally and the external controller. If an external controller is working, then it could be with how windows reads the Ally controller as an "Xbox 360 Controller". Let me know what you find :)
@@filt3rless thanks for the reply, thing is I can’t even get Roblox to load. Microsoft store version will just say “retry” after opening. And the website version won’t download correctly. Have heard some others online say they ran into the same issue, no fix mentioned. Then some others say they’re able to run it
@@mrrolypoly5690 Ohh. Have a look at this video and see if it helps: ua-cam.com/video/TsVHKRvxHWY/v-deo.html. It sounds like a windows thing honestly. I've also run into issues in the past on computer where windows store acts weird.
@@mrrolypoly5690 Actually I just tried loading it on the store and got "Retry", when I clicked See details it said "To install remove a device from your account". Basically I need to go into my microsoft account and remove a registered device. Do you see that under yours when it says "Retry"?
As I await my replacement ...1st Ally failed I can look forward to my n3xt fault on this unfinished gaming hamdlheld....should never have been released !!!
🤣 It's not funny but the way you said it made me laugh because of how true it is! However, when the Ally is working well it's amazing. It's just when it's not working right that's annoying. Did your SD Card Reader fail or something else? If it's the SD Card Reader I personally wouldn't RMA mine as it's a design flaw I believe where almost all of them will fail at some point.
@filt3rless yes was the sd card slot...only had 2 games on it and they stopped loading ....ally still recognised the card and its capacity it just kept giving me a read/write error when trying to copy anything to it ....was perfect besides that...I've had my new unit for 3 days now and its running perfect so far....I'm not using the sd card slot on this one lol
@@peter58murray Glad you got a new one that's working well :). I don't use my SD Card Reader either on mine (which is my 3rd one). When it works it's awesome, when it doesn't, it sucks.
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Hey guys, just to sum up this video. If you use "Auto" it WILL use your custom game profiles. If you use "Gamepad" it will BYPASS all your custom game profiles and won't use them.
Where's the 3rd video?
I never knew this! Thanks for letting us know. I usually keep mine in gamepad mode as I'm rarely in windows. Nice content as usual, keep it up!
Appreciate the efforts dude, you working away on problems and solutions are what give every owner a better experience.
When it comes to auto mode i think that is actually a somewhat positive thing to be honest, it just could be clearer what Auto mode does from Asus themselves. But actually having a setting that sets each game to the program you have setup is pretty cool and it actually warns you of this when you try to launch a game in desktop mode by saying you have a custom file setup for this game do you want to switch to auto mode to use it... so yeh i think thats pretty cool and being able to switch to controller mode to go back to stock controller settings is pretty cool too... it is confusing though and could be clearer what Auto actually does.
However i too have had the problem where if i delete a profile it somehow remembers that profile and still sets it up that way, i think i said something similar to you on a previous video few days ago... thats very strange, so yeh look forward to the next one, cheers.
Thanks! Yeah I think it was your comment and someone elses where I started looking into it further. On that pop up there is also a "Don't show again" message which some people might click not really knowing the difference, and then wonder why the settings aren't saving. However, the main issue is the triggers not showing 100% for a lot of people makes it where you'd have to go into every game and set it to 90% (or whatever deadzone there is) or use gamepad for a global preset. Which is going to be a real problem if people are having trigger issues to go into every game individually.
It'd be nice if Asus had a "set this for all games" check box to reset them and be able to fix triggers, then set custom profiles. For me, I play a lot of driving games and the trigger issues are horrible. In other games I could see where it doesn't matter too much though. Maybe they could even add a "Use Game Profile" option instead of Auto. So then Auto is a leave and forget, then have a "Custom Game" one that will show up. Just like you said though it's weird and not intuitive. Especially the profiles still holding values after being deleted.
@@filt3rless yeh agree with everything you said mate, im fortunate i dont have any trigger issues they were spot on out the box but yeh if its not like that for everyone then thats a problem.
@@jinx20001 You won the device lottery haha. Glad yours is working well :)
@@filt3rless ahh i dunno about that, i did have to take the sticks out and put some tape on the stems to help the caps stay on more snug to get rid of some clicking when rotating them... besides that its been golden haha. cheers buddy.
@@jinx20001 I had to do that on all of the Ally's I've had! I have a whole video recording of it. I ended up cutting tiny slivers of tape and putting it in the joystick end itself, then pushing it down. And they feel super premium now. One one of my Ally units (I've had 3 now), the right joystick felt like what you said, double click anytime I'd move it, then click it down.
Great video pal. Looking forward for your 3rd video to fix that issue with the controls. I've have simmilar issue with game called Escape from Tarkov. Its doesnt meter what i try to change on settings anyway not all buttons working it's looks like something overriding them.
Good to know! Can you also make a video on forcing the newest AMD graphics drivers and what the performance difference is compared to the official Asus driver? There's a guide posted on the r/ROGAlly subreddit and it seems many people have updated.
I posted that guide. 😅 I can tell you that from my testing, performance when using the Turbo profile improved, but performance in any other profile got worse.
Hey thanks! I personally don't mind tinkering, however, I don't think it's something I'd put on the channel. There can be weird bugs, where AMD Control panel stops working (because of windows overriding the driver and having a miss match between the driver/software), or issues when Asus actually releases the drivers, etc. So it's not something I'd recommend people do, except those that like tinkering (like myself). However, when the new drivers do drop from Asus, I'll definitely be running a few benchmarks and making a video on it :)
@@filt3rless The AMD Control Panel fix is included in the guide. But yes, once that's done, you will only be getting updates from AMD.
The new drivers fix a few artifact issues people have been having with emulated games. So at least to the emulation crowd, its a worthwhile update.
@@FahdRiyami Hey, yeah I wasn't meaning its not working up front. But if Windows or Asus overrides the driver, then you could get an AMD miss match for the control panel. Which might or might not happen. But if it does it'd leave a lot of people that aren't tech savvy wondering why.
I've even had multiple times where I install official drivers from AMD (on other laptops & the ROG on a fresh install via USB) and windows overrides the driver causing the control panel to stop working until re-installing again.
I've seen the artifact issues as well in emulation. I might try them out myself :)
@@FahdRiyami Hey, just saw the guide. Nice work on that, very well put together :). I also saw the 800Mhz issue, so I probably won't test it. But I was wondering why kind of improvements you were seeing in Turbo. Where they pretty decent or just slight improvements?
There is another problem with the emulation. Older games AC do not emulate left and right mouse button presses at the same time. Those. if you're playing stalker, you can't walk, aim and shoot at the same time. The right trigger will simply not work, or will work with a delay. You can also test this in Modern Warfare 2009, with keyboard emulation.
That reminds me of a keyboard I had a while back where it'd disable a key if you pressed certain keys. That's a really annoying issue. I think reWASD would actually solve that though, as you can map click, keyboard keys, etc to it and it takes control of the controller completely. I'm not 100% if it fixes it, but I'd imagine it does.
@@filt3rless yep, as what i did. Now its the only solution
Wow thanks dude, i was wondering why days gone starting having vibration, even though i had vibration set to 0% under "gamepad". Gonna leave mine set to gamepad since i plan to use the one profile for all my games.
Hey bro a thought been in my mind since the ally dropped...so you know the samsung s23ultra has a feature were you connect the charger and go into the settings and have it bypass charging the battery and goes straight to powering up the chips an whatever else so can play games without damaging your battery I think the ally should have had that feature as well what do you think?
Hey, that is on by default. If you have the charger plugged in, and it's fully charged (or set to the charge limit you set) it completely bypasses the battery so it's not constantly draining/recharging it :)
@@filt3rless nice good to hear that really good information
Realized this a while back, auto is all I use as I have custom controls mapped to the m1 and m2 buttons per game since I am used to playing with controllers that have rear paddles..
Nice! I like using the paddles as well, but I just use the gamepad mode, then will change it if I'm needing different mappings. I mainly use the same mappings and run G-Helper with AC completely disabled so it works well in that case.
@@filt3rless I am considering these other options but so far so good with AC, haven’t had the need to use anything else yet and I enjoy tinkering to find the right balance of fps and tdp with all the best graphics I can muster from the game…
@@EdwinJeudy Glad it's working well for you. If you're enjoying it no reason to switch really. I just could not stand AC. I have had about 15 Asus laptops and years and a lot of experience with AC and while it's improved A LOT, I still don't like it much. The main reason I use G-Helper though is because I set Silent mode to 13W, Balanced to 17W and Turbo to 25W, so I get way quieter fans and Silent and Turbo modes are actually usable. In AC Silent is almost useless (10 watts), in Turbo it boost WAY too high (43 watts), Performance mode boost to 20W for 2 minutes, and manual mode is ridiculously loud. So now I have a set locked wattage, quiet fans, and easy switching.
@@filt3rless after todays update, I am going to try g-helper. I like being able to use m1 and m2 as different buttons and I’m sure someone will figure out how to get that done…
@@filt3rless ok after trying to set the custom tdp values, I can’t see that g helper is in any way having any kind of effect. My games still seem to be using other profiles even after disabling ac…
Super helpful and makes sense! Now the only thing is, what does auto mean when it’s not on any game but at the desktop? Is it just switching between desktop and game mode or something?
Auto is where it switches between desktop and "gamepad" mode, except it doesn't. Which is so weird, it does go to gamepad mode, but it's the game specific profile mode... I don't know why Asus didn't make Auto and "Gamepad" be the same. It's a bit confusing and just weird what Asus did. I'm hoping to have a very in-depth video coming out sometime soon covering everything about the controls :)
This has answered the question on why I had problems with setting individual game profiles which did not work. If I understand correctly I would need to set it to auto to pick up my custom game profile controls? I tried to create a profile for modern warfare 3, which did not support controller as an old game. However, I kept selecting the controller setting instead of auto, which probably explains why it didn’t work.
Yes, that is exactly why it wasn't working. It's beyond strange that Asus did it this way. I used to think Auto meant it'd automatically switch to Desktop / Gamepad (which it does do), but the actual "Gamepad" setting is completely different and overrides all the custom profiles you have set. So you'll need to be in "Auto" and it select the gamepad mode automatically while still showing Auto for it to use custom profiles.
Even reading what I just wrote is beyond confusing, just like the choices Asus made with the way this function works 🤣
Can you make a comprehensive guide on how to eliminate the dead zone on analogs? Steam method works for me but not for gamepass games. You're doing a good job btw.
Hey thanks. Do you have inner deadzones where when you move the stick it's not registering till you press it a ways? Or is it outer deadzones where it's registering 100% way too quick?
I just looked into this further and I do see what you mean. The xbox controllers are registering sooner. Upon looking at calibration/testing software if you press slightly on the xbox controller, it's registering further on the mapper than the Ally. So you can use 3rd party software to "help" but that is a design flaw on the Ally. I hadn't personally noticed it till you said something. I'm going to test it a bit more and see if there are some settings I could come up with that would help people.
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/hjPyCNn_vlM/v-deo.html :)
Is any app to switch auto to gamepad while in gaming and desktop on desktop mode?
Asus should put out an update to fix this. GamePad mode should use the custom profile if it is set for the game else it should use the global profile.
Also, they should provide a menu option where we can go and delete the gamepad profile that we don't need anymore. I have many profile for the games that I have already removed from Ally. It is super annoying to go through all those names in the select template list.
And also the power profiles that are associated with the games are annoying (since we are not able to reset them), when using G-Helper because I believe that even when I have the G-Helper running in the background if I launch a game that has a power profile associated with it, it will use the old power profile from the armouy crate (I have to double check on this but there should be an option to clear/reset those settings)
Edit: Nice find on the modes :)
Thanks and you're 1000% right!!. Auto should just be to switch back and forth "Automatically" from desktop so you can use mouse and desktop shortcuts. It makes 0 sense to have gamepad not use the game profiles...
Also I agree with what you said with G-Helper. I think it's remembering profiles, even deleted ones and doing it's own thing overriding G-Helper. Overall a completely frustrating experience that is definitely not user friendly. And it's another reason I run G-Helper with everything Asus disabled. I'm tired of messing with settings and would like to just play a game, on a gaming handheld... 🤣
They definitely need to add that "reset" settings button for people. If someone has been using custom profiles and then realizes they have a joystick issue, it'd be a nightmare to go into every single game and change that, or a trigger issue, or any other problems.
Which game you are playing?
Hey, Can't find your controller calibration video which you uploaded like 2 days before I think
Did you removed that video
Thanks.
Hey, yes I made it private. I had always used Windows Calibration over years and years and thought it worked great, but after getting a few comments I did further testing and it wasn't working in multiple driving games (which are the most important games to have proper trigger calibration).
Here is a video I did a while back (ua-cam.com/video/SIXmsfNa0PY/v-deo.html) and it's not as detailed but this method is what you should use. It calibrates across everything (when in Gamepad mode). To be able to use Auto, you'll have to go into each game and drop down the deadzone.
I even use windows to see the levels, but you can use Gamepad Tester (Google search) to calibrate it as well. Hope this helps :)
@@filt3rless Thanks for the reply Sir :)
What about if you lauch games in steam or other launchers than armored crate
Gamepad mode will override everything (Steam, Windows Calibration, everything). And from my testing, if you're in Auto it'll still use the custom profile you have set in Armoury Crate.
Hum my custom gamepad mode works great for forza shifting gears . If leave it i. Auto the back buttons do not work .
Yeah, so the way to get it working in Auto would be to go into Armoury Crate. Go to Forza and hit "X" and then you can set a custom game profile. Auto uses those custom game profiles. I think using "Gamepad" mode is better though, I just wanted to let you know why it wasn't working in Auto. That's the reason I made the video. It's so weird that "Auto" uses the custom game profiles and "Gamepad" overrides and uses the "Gamepad Mode" settings that you set. I also use the back buttons for shifting and they're great :)
Personally i have never used auto. Ive always selected desktop it gamepad for everything, as when i tested auto for fun, it often didnt work properly
Same, especially after this finding. I do see where if you know about this going into it, it could be neat to have "Auto" for your custom game profiles, then always have the "Gamepad" mode to override them. That could be helpful in some circumstances. However, the implementation isn't worth it to me at all and I won't be using it. Gamepad all the way, and I'm planning to calibrate it in Gamepad then completely disable or even uninstall Armoury Crate again.
this has been driving me potty for the last week..... i figured something fishy was going on with the game profiles as sometimes a profile with the game was active and other times the general game pad profile was active. so what were saying is auto is the option for the actual game profile and not game controller mode....
Yeah 🤣. I ran into the same issues too, and was wondering what the heck was going on. You'd think in "gamepad mode" it'd use your "game" profiles. Now the neat thing is, if you like AC, now you can have a global one, and game profiles so you can easily switch between them :).
However, if you've already been using AC, and have a trigger deadzone or joystick deadzone then every game has to be set manually that you've already started. Or just use gamepad mode to bypass al the profiles.
I'm planning on making a video with a deeper dive into all this. Like an ultimate controller guide with sections and break downs for every use case possible.
@@filt3rless yep..... theres a 3rd layer of shennanigens though..... if you launch steam in big picture mode, the steam controller configs can be dowenloaded and used....... whether or not they are being applied is something ill have to ask mystic mog...... but thought id mention it hahaahhaa ;)
@@toweleeielite 🤣. I have a video coming out tomorrow about a program called reWASD that will override everything from my testing. But it's specifically to fix deadzones, which I just found out about and definitely see why people are having issues with how long they take to register.
@@filt3rless dont..... iv got a whole new one for ya..... on battlefield 2042, the controller moves faster to the right than the left...... hahahahahahaha, just testing other games now to see if they are affected. works fine if i switch sticks but iv had bullcrap like this before on onther EA games.
@@toweleeielite It's like playing another game every time you use the controls. They might work like they're supposed to or not 🤣. There is a way to calibrate dead zones per zone in reWASD so you'd be able to turn down specifically to the right to get it more even. But it's pretty annoying we even have to be doing this. I've never had to worry about any of it with Xbox controllers.
So you're saying use gamepad mode when you have custom Presets set for a game not auto?? 😅
Just the opposite 🤣. I know it's beyond confusing. So you'll want to use "Auto" when you want to use the Custom Game Profiles. If you select "Gamepad Mode" it will bypass and not use the custom game profiles.
I need help on getting my gamepad control to work on GTA V using epic launcher. Auto, Gamepad and Desktop mode just doesn't work for me even with custom remapping and profile.
Hey, I'm not too sure what would be causing that. I use a program called reWASD which basically creates a virtual controller at the driver level and it seems to work great. It could be worth checking out. But it should be working if you're in Gamepad mode and the embedded controller is enabled. Have you tried hooking up an external Xbox controller to see if that works?
@@filt3rless okay I'll take a look into it, I have not tried hooking up a physical controller as I do not plan to carry one when I bring the ally out. Thanks for the suggestion though 👍🏻
Could you please test Roblox? Not sure if u have yet, but I can’t get the windows store version or the website version to work. Any suggestions?
Are you using an external controller or the Ally? If you're using the Ally, then you'll want to be in "Gamepad" mode. If you're using an external controller you'll want to make sure "Embedded controller" is turned off. Also if you're not using an external controller then I'd try putting it in Gamepad mode, reboot to be safe, and ensure "Embedded controller" is on. If that's still not working, I'm not too sure. It might be something with roblox, as it shouldn't have anything to do with the controller at that point.
One thing you could also try is see if an external xbox controller actually does work. Just make sure you turn "Embedded controller" of when you do that because if not, it'll detect both the Ally and the external controller. If an external controller is working, then it could be with how windows reads the Ally controller as an "Xbox 360 Controller". Let me know what you find :)
@@filt3rless thanks for the reply, thing is I can’t even get Roblox to load. Microsoft store version will just say “retry” after opening. And the website version won’t download correctly. Have heard some others online say they ran into the same issue, no fix mentioned. Then some others say they’re able to run it
@@mrrolypoly5690 Ohh. Have a look at this video and see if it helps: ua-cam.com/video/TsVHKRvxHWY/v-deo.html. It sounds like a windows thing honestly. I've also run into issues in the past on computer where windows store acts weird.
@@filt3rless I feel like it’s an Armoury crate issue. Probably causing some conflict with Roblox. I tried all those steps and still doesn’t work.
@@mrrolypoly5690 Actually I just tried loading it on the store and got "Retry", when I clicked See details it said "To install remove a device from your account". Basically I need to go into my microsoft account and remove a registered device. Do you see that under yours when it says "Retry"?
Never bothered with AUTO, but hopefully Asus will fix these things in the future.
Not holding my breath though, they suck with updates.
Nice thanks for the useful info, I find all my needs for my rog ally in your videos ❤
Thanks! Glad the videos help :)
As I await my replacement ...1st Ally failed I can look forward to my n3xt fault on this unfinished gaming hamdlheld....should never have been released !!!
🤣 It's not funny but the way you said it made me laugh because of how true it is! However, when the Ally is working well it's amazing. It's just when it's not working right that's annoying. Did your SD Card Reader fail or something else? If it's the SD Card Reader I personally wouldn't RMA mine as it's a design flaw I believe where almost all of them will fail at some point.
@filt3rless yes was the sd card slot...only had 2 games on it and they stopped loading ....ally still recognised the card and its capacity it just kept giving me a read/write error when trying to copy anything to it ....was perfect besides that...I've had my new unit for 3 days now and its running perfect so far....I'm not using the sd card slot on this one lol
@@peter58murray Glad you got a new one that's working well :). I don't use my SD Card Reader either on mine (which is my 3rd one). When it works it's awesome, when it doesn't, it sucks.
Thanks this was helpful 🫡