It's the kind of engine that stops working every now and then. It's also the kind of engine you can get working again at the side of the road with a little bit of swearing and hammering and insulating tape. It's the kind of engine that was in every car, motorbike and and van I bought when I was young and had no money to buy better (or pay someone else to fix it).
I hated working on these things, the best way was to pour 1/5 of a gallon of petrol over them, then throw a lit match at it, and that way you could get 5 to the gallon.
That vehicle was originally owned by the Metropolitan Police, it was one of a batch, issued to Traffic units, in about 1979 as a SETAC, (Specially Equipped Traffic Accident Car). They were terrible things to drive or stop from high speed, even before they were armoured, the interiors were adapted on a few to carry armed officers, and as the windows didn’t open, air conditioning was added. The rope along the centre line was the only thing that passengers could hang onto, some had portholes on the side that rotated to allow guns to be fired out from. They had no power steering and no synchro between 2nd and 1st gear. They were, from memory replaced by large bonneted American vehicles with a very large V8 engine.
Wrong year that one has synchros on all forward gears, it’s a series 3 1980 onwards with brake servo and hazzard warning lights .before 1980 didn’t have them .or servo .
It's not ruc either all the simbas and tangi's were v8 That's why the mod had to later build the snatch with its v8 ,when the military was in support of the police they were using vpk land rovers with composite protection and the 2 1/4 engine that the series 3 used was crap and could not keep up
OMG, with that must have been hideous to drive, that was spec'd by a sadist. As a past SIII owner, I can vouch it would have struggled to pull the skin of a bowl of Birds custard with a 2.25l The 109 Stage One V8 had a bit of power by comparison, but the steering was scary at speed.
Very surprised it's not V8. I was in the REME and never saw an armoured LR with anything but a V8. This channel's been a great nostalgia trip for me, keep up the good work lads.
09:02 When you're pointlessly shouting at the laptop because the dizzy cap is loose. 12:12 When Joe notices the cap and you shout for joy! 14:22 Remembering Joe throwing every switch on the dash at 04:50 😂
I wonder if anyone will be able to start a modern vehicle after it has stood for 5 years, never mind how long this has stood. It looks so simple, obviously a lot of editing done. Great stuff.
My '93 discovery started right up after sitting for 7 years. Only really needed a new fuel pump to get it going under it's own power, and then a ton of things that need replacement after sitting for so long to get it to start going good. (Mostly electrical issues, but some mechanical too)
This video contains all of the well known phrases while working on a Land Rover. 1. Mmmmmmm 2. Nothing 3. I need something hammerish 4. Nothing 5. Let’s see if this does anything 6. Aww no
@@NotALot-xm6gz YOu ever drove a drum all around vehicle? they stop amasing. for a bit, then they fade and you shit yourself. As an avid fan of old minis I remember buying my first all-drum mini, going through the brakes and honestly being very impressed with them once all serviced. stopped like a servo+disk mini and with superb pedal feel. THEN I had to brake from 70-30 twice , hard, in stop go traffic. I very very very quicly learned why drums mibby are not the best. but on a vehicle like this, with that engine, they would surprise you IMHO. Drums stop FAST. they also fade fast.
MM if I ever getta chance to go over to pommyland again (last time was 1977) would love to catch up with you lot n check it all out. I realy love all your SOH, mad as meat axes. Thanks for the fun an enjoyment watching the vids. The Ole Fella from Downunda.
Are you sure it’s ex SAS? Yellow light on roof is for airport use. The number plate is of a series used on Metropolitan Police vehicle of that age. Looks more like one of the old airport fleet than SAS.
They did indeed belong to the SAS hence they are armoured and then we handed over to the Police, there is a video on youtube, history of vehicles of the SAS and this landrover is mentioned in that video
We had some Hereford Landies on a range where I worked, to be used as targets. They all had Range Rover style transmission and bog standard V8s. I nicked a set of bulletproof wheels and tyres for my own Landy from one that had been blown to smithereens. They were filled with blue grey gloop and worked just fine.
Good to see a old faithful Mk6 Transit loitering around a farm / workshop. Vehicles etc where definitely were built to last & alot easier to work back in the day compared to these days. Daniel.
What makes you think it’s ex SAS? Do you have paperwork saying that? We used these in Bosnia for armoured TV crew vehicles but not for long. They were ex RUC Northern Ireland and were known as pigs as they were useless off road as to heavy. We had them painted white and had in big letters TV on the sides, bonnet and rear, not that it really made any difference as they still shot at us.
If the head/side/tail and convoy/convoy and side lights are operated using the same mechanism as current military rovers that haven't gone through the naff upgrade to MAN SV style switches then that panel that was under the loudhailers you put in the back is where the on/off dial fits on. As they are powered up when you got it running I'd say someone turned them on then removed the panel from the dash that the dial fits to and then stripped the dial and the plate saying which position does what from the panel.
That's a CAV ( composite armoured vehicle) double skinned in aluminium with multiple layers of fibreglass sheet packed between them, quite effective against small arm's fire and lightweight for rapid getaway.
Can’t imagine there are too many of these things around, fully restored I reckon someone would pay good money for it. Do you have a vehicle history for this particular one?
I have a Series 3 109 on a galv chassis with the 5mb engine I got it going after it stood for 5 year's then it stood for 10 and it still run's smokes a little I think the valve seal's have perished ....I have another to rebuild it was given to me as it 's chassis was so far gone the owner didn't know how to remove it ...I stripped it and took it home that way ..I'm hoping to put my peugeot diesel in it with a steve parker kit I got off a guy "restoring" a project he wanted to keep it genuine but I'll get 27 mph instead of 19 ...keep up the good work ...maybe drain the tank and prime the hand pump
I wonder how actually 'armoured' this is compared to the Snatches we drove about in NI/Iraq that were supposed to be 'armoured' but later got reclassed as 'Protected'. Basically cause they'd get destroyed by a stiff wind.
thats my interest, ive had the (fortune?!) of working on a few armoured vehicles, so aside the windows, theres plates added to all panels, then splinter protection after those plates, if vital compents (like batterys) are outside the protected passenger compartemnt(say on a 5 series bmw) they too receive protection, all this stuff is HEAVY. that defender looked to have the stock bulkhead so a good front shot would penetrate the cab. FWIW every car ive worked on came from NI .. clearly a hostile place during the troubles.
Brother-in-Law was the Chief Superintendent commanding Heathrow in the 80s, he is pretty sure that this was on his establishment as the Armed Response Team vehicle. Not much need for rapid acceleration or stopping on an airfield so the two and a quarter and a servo was sufficient for purpose. The high level amber gives it away and the tailpipe might show evidence of the compulsory spark arrestor. It is most definitely not a Snatch and the Credenhills were all V8s. My guess is that it was a Met car.
2.25 petrol. Brian Patchett, the landrover restorer states they are the best engine Landrover ever made. I have seen wrecks that filled a gap in a hedgerow for FORTY years started in situ after an hours work and then driven out.
Opens bonnet. Initial impression: What a rotbox. At least it'll be too rotten to burn when the electrics inevitably cook off. Ted: This piece of military materiel has now been officially sniffed. "Nothing's caught fire yet." - my first comment and your mind obviously line up. "I think I need a screwdriver." - no, you need a tetanus shot. If you make every job look like a nail, then every solution can look like a hammer. Ignition, mayde in the Midlands wit' proide!
Why the fcuk isnt this thing a V8 ? it has 37 tons of armour and glass.... and a asthmatic four cylinder and wiring by the Prince of darkness ! Love this channel.
Take a while armour plated and the smaller engine,, here in the later part of the troubles,, even a series 3had a. V8 engine,,, to get to a call out ☘️☘️☘️be a good project 😀😄
Did the RUC ever use 4 pots? Just dont try chasing a stolen car as they dont go round corners and if you know of a RUC one that the AC ever worked in can you tell its op number 🤣
Looks like the snatch wagons we had in Belfast. The IRA worked out that the door handle was the weakest spot on these vehicles and wouldn't withstand a direct hit from an RPG. They demonstrated this using a homemade RPG against an RUC snatch wagon and it penetrated the door handle and entered the driving compartment killing an RUC officer. Think this happened in the Markets area of Belfast (all this from memory, thirty odd years ago). After that, the armour was beefed up on the doors.
Unreal! Lol! That poor distributor cap is wobbling all over the place! I’m amazed it made contact!
It never ceases to amaze me with these older motors how a screwdriver, adjustable and some brake cleaner you can get an engine rattling 😂
None of that it won't start because of the temperature sensor reading low, or manifold intake sensor needs replacing and endless error codes.
@@Taz6688 "Error: Low oil pressure" course its fucking low, you won't let it start to make it go up!
It's the kind of engine that stops working every now and then. It's also the kind of engine you can get working again at the side of the road with a little bit of swearing and hammering and insulating tape. It's the kind of engine that was in every car, motorbike and and van I bought when I was young and had no money to buy better (or pay someone else to fix it).
No internet access required with that !
So true where did we go wrong
I hated working on these things, the best way was to pour 1/5 of a gallon of petrol over them, then throw a lit match at it, and that way you could get 5 to the gallon.
New one I using that ! Thanks.
😂👍
were you a mechanic at pira?
@@billynomates920 Yes along time ago.
That vehicle was originally owned by the Metropolitan Police, it was one of a batch, issued to Traffic units, in about 1979 as a SETAC, (Specially Equipped Traffic Accident Car). They were terrible things to drive or stop from high speed, even before they were armoured, the interiors were adapted on a few to carry armed officers, and as the windows didn’t open, air conditioning was added. The rope along the centre line was the only thing that passengers could hang onto, some had portholes on the side that rotated to allow guns to be fired out from. They had no power steering and no synchro between 2nd and 1st gear. They were, from memory replaced by large bonneted American vehicles with a very large V8 engine.
And no way is it SAS, RUC yes, there are far better vehicles that dont shout security!
Wrong year that one has synchros on all forward gears, it’s a series 3 1980 onwards with brake servo and hazzard warning lights .before 1980 didn’t have them .or servo .
It's not ruc either all the simbas and tangi's were v8
That's why the mod had to later build the snatch with its v8 ,when the military was in support of the police they were using vpk land rovers with composite protection and the 2 1/4 engine that the series 3 used was crap and could not keep up
OMG, with that must have been hideous to drive, that was spec'd by a sadist. As a past SIII owner, I can vouch it would have struggled to pull the skin of a bowl of Birds custard with a 2.25l The 109 Stage One V8 had a bit of power by comparison, but the steering was scary at speed.
The Metropolitan Police vehicle to which you refer is called a Jankel.
Very surprised it's not V8. I was in the REME and never saw an armoured LR with anything but a V8. This channel's been a great nostalgia trip for me, keep up the good work lads.
😂
That's what I said.
Half the motor missing.
09:02 When you're pointlessly shouting at the laptop because the dizzy cap is loose.
12:12 When Joe notices the cap and you shout for joy!
14:22 Remembering Joe throwing every switch on the dash at 04:50 😂
Same here with the dizzy cap
I wonder if anyone will be able to start a modern vehicle after it has stood for 5 years, never mind how long this has stood. It looks so simple, obviously a lot of editing done. Great stuff.
yes, my family has done it several times.
jeeps can take a lot of punishment
My '93 discovery started right up after sitting for 7 years. Only really needed a new fuel pump to get it going under it's own power, and then a ton of things that need replacement after sitting for so long to get it to start going good. (Mostly electrical issues, but some mechanical too)
This video contains all of the well known phrases while working on a Land Rover.
1. Mmmmmmm
2. Nothing
3. I need something hammerish
4. Nothing
5. Let’s see if this does anything
6. Aww no
Yes I noticed the distributor was doing a belly dance. Nice one.
I feel sorry for that little 4 banger having to haul around all that extra weight
It’s going to be slow, zero to sixty in minuets. :D
If you feel sorry for the engine, spare a thought for the brakes trying to stop it.
@@NotALot-xm6gz Drum brakes, wide-drum twin leading off the safari version I bet :D
@@teamidris 30 mph > stationary is going to take longer than stationary > 30 mph.
@@NotALot-xm6gz YOu ever drove a drum all around vehicle? they stop amasing. for a bit, then they fade and you shit yourself. As an avid fan of old minis I remember buying my first all-drum mini, going through the brakes and honestly being very impressed with them once all serviced. stopped like a servo+disk mini and with superb pedal feel. THEN I had to brake from 70-30 twice , hard, in stop go traffic. I very very very quicly learned why drums mibby are not the best. but on a vehicle like this, with that engine, they would surprise you IMHO. Drums stop FAST. they also fade fast.
Shades of a Vice Grip Garge revival here..... especially the adjustable hammer. Derek would be proud!
It is an adjustable nut fu%!er here. Guarantied to round you nut in no time at all. Also bashing your Knuckles at the same time.
Love this how you show us what's going on and we can follow the process with you I really enjoyed
MM if I ever getta chance to go over to pommyland again (last time was 1977) would love to catch up with you lot n check it all out. I realy love all your SOH, mad as meat axes. Thanks for the fun an enjoyment watching the vids. The Ole Fella from Downunda.
Are you sure it’s ex SAS? Yellow light on roof is for airport use. The number plate is of a series used on Metropolitan Police vehicle of that age. Looks more like one of the old airport fleet than SAS.
They did indeed belong to the SAS hence they are armoured and then we handed over to the Police, there is a video on youtube, history of vehicles of the SAS and this landrover is mentioned in that video
I absolutely love your videos, and all of the historic vehicles. I would love to get my hands on one of these Land Rovers!!
“Right.. let’s just change the jet on the… er… brake cleaner; let’s try again.” 😂
'interesting' motion of the distributor cap when trying to start it ...
Saw the same thing:
"hang on, that bit's not supposed to move!"
🤔😆
By the reg (London) looks ex met 🤔 👍🏻
We had some Hereford Landies on a range where I worked, to be used as targets. They all had Range Rover style transmission and bog standard V8s. I nicked a set of bulletproof wheels and tyres for my own Landy from one that had been blown to smithereens. They were filled with blue grey gloop and worked just fine.
I love how you took the idea from YT comments and actually did it, props to you!
Good to see a old faithful Mk6 Transit loitering around a farm / workshop.
Vehicles etc where definitely were built to last & alot easier to work back in the day compared to these days. Daniel.
We bought 250 of the 109 direct from unit , pound each , stored them all in a field in Kent ,cost us more to move ,store than buy .
I guess air con is a must if you have a load of fully geared up bods ready to go in the back 😮
Saw this the other day when I was watching SAS vehicle history and they mentioned you.
A rare combination of terrible fuel economy zero performance and horrendous handling lol, Saying that I still love em 😍
🤣🤣
What makes you think it’s ex SAS? Do you have paperwork saying that?
We used these in Bosnia for armoured TV crew vehicles but not for long. They were ex RUC Northern Ireland and were known as pigs as they were useless off road as to heavy. We had them painted white and had in big letters TV on the sides, bonnet and rear, not that it really made any difference as they still shot at us.
Airport Policing vehicle at some point I think.
I suppose AC is nice .... Beats trying to wind down 4 inch thick windows (not that they were wind up anyways)
Some of the old landies we used to use never needed a key. You could start it with a flat headed screwdriver in the ignition.
I love the dancing distributor cap. 09:05 Do the Hoola hoola shake!
If the head/side/tail and convoy/convoy and side lights are operated using the same mechanism as current military rovers that haven't gone through the naff upgrade to MAN SV style switches then that panel that was under the loudhailers you put in the back is where the on/off dial fits on.
As they are powered up when you got it running I'd say someone turned them on then removed the panel from the dash that the dial fits to and then stripped the dial and the plate saying which position does what from the panel.
Nice choice of hammer device Me Hewes - we used to call a hammer a Birmingham Screw Driver or Brummie hammer for short LOL
Of course it will start, it is a Land Rover. 😁
Looking forward to more content on this 👍
Love it it's a bit smaller than a Tank love your videos
When you said “these overalls can get shagged” it just reminded me of the IT guy from the TV show Bruiser… ahaha good laugh
That's a CAV ( composite armoured vehicle) double skinned in aluminium with multiple layers of fibreglass sheet packed between them, quite effective against small arm's fire and lightweight for rapid getaway.
Distributor cap looks very healthy bobbing about 😂😂😂
an armoured ( guessing weighs over 3000kg ) series ' powered ' by a 2 1/4 petrol engine ?? i admire their optimism
Could he worse, Could be a 2.25 diesel
It's not an SAS landro er. It's an ex northern Ireland police landrover.
It's got mainland GB plates, if it was ex RUC it would have NI number plates.
@@Luton-Mick that means nothing . It might have been registered here
Northern Ireland doesn’t exist so 🤷♂️
@@admiralYamamoto_ if only
@@admiralYamamoto_tell the DUP that...
It's amazing you have the patience and desire to mess with old defenders - but I guess it must be like solving a mystery rolled up in an enigma.
Series 3, not a Defender 🙂
I like the 'hammer' he was using. Are these available from Harbor Freight? Do they make them in Imperial sizes and Metric sizes?
Can’t imagine there are too many of these things around, fully restored I reckon someone would pay good money for it. Do you have a vehicle history for this particular one?
This Land Rover was the first one on the balcony obviously.
@@WozWozEre 🤣 in that case the film “6 days” is wildly inaccurate
Il ask my mates cousins dad if he remembers it ,he was 7th or 8th man on the balcony
@@billgates2903 🤣🤣🤣
@@Kitchevo just checked with with my cousin his dad says it was definitely there because Maggie noshed them all off in the back of it on the way home
I have a Series 3 109 on a galv chassis with the 5mb engine I got it going after it stood for 5 year's then it stood for 10 and it still run's smokes a little I think the valve seal's have perished ....I have another to rebuild it was given to me as it 's chassis was so far gone the owner didn't know how to remove it ...I stripped it and took it home that way ..I'm hoping to put my peugeot diesel in it with a steve parker kit I got off a guy "restoring" a project he wanted to keep it genuine but I'll get 27 mph instead of 19 ...keep up the good work ...maybe drain the tank and prime the hand pump
Really was expecting to see a 3.5 Rover V8 when you lifted that bonnet!
Saw Ted the supervisor wander up to keep an eye on you and my immediate thought was that it would start fine. Does the Snap On van sell Teds?
I wonder how actually 'armoured' this is compared to the Snatches we drove about in NI/Iraq that were supposed to be 'armoured' but later got reclassed as 'Protected'. Basically cause they'd get destroyed by a stiff wind.
thats my interest, ive had the (fortune?!) of working on a few armoured vehicles, so aside the windows, theres plates added to all panels, then splinter protection after those plates, if vital compents (like batterys) are outside the protected passenger compartemnt(say on a 5 series bmw) they too receive protection, all this stuff is HEAVY. that defender looked to have the stock bulkhead so a good front shot would penetrate the cab. FWIW every car ive worked on came from NI .. clearly a hostile place during the troubles.
Mobile coffins
I reckon you've just bypassed the ignition switch by wiring the coil direct to the battery.
Oh dear. I was expecting to see a V8. It can't have been a fast response vehicle.
A mate used to own that. Its from the Iranian embassy seige. must have been used to ferry in the 4000 sas troopers in
Good show old Bean!
Brother-in-Law was the Chief Superintendent commanding Heathrow in the 80s, he is pretty sure that this was on his establishment as the Armed Response Team vehicle. Not much need for rapid acceleration or stopping on an airfield so the two and a quarter and a servo was sufficient for purpose. The high level amber gives it away and the tailpipe might show evidence of the compulsory spark arrestor. It is most definitely not a Snatch and the Credenhills were all V8s. My guess is that it was a Met car.
2.25 petrol. Brian Patchett, the landrover restorer states they are the best engine Landrover ever made. I have seen wrecks that filled a gap in a hedgerow for FORTY years started in situ after an hours work and then driven out.
What a quality machine.
Opens bonnet. Initial impression:
What a rotbox. At least it'll be too rotten to burn when the electrics inevitably cook off.
Ted:
This piece of military materiel has now been officially sniffed.
"Nothing's caught fire yet." - my first comment and your mind obviously line up.
"I think I need a screwdriver." - no, you need a tetanus shot.
If you make every job look like a nail, then every solution can look like a hammer.
Ignition, mayde in the Midlands wit' proide!
Lucas, the Prince of Darkness.
@@dougstubbs9637 *puts on Texan accent*
"D'ya know why the Brits like warm beer? Cause Lucas also makes refrigerators."
Why the fcuk isnt this thing a V8 ? it has 37 tons of armour and glass.... and a asthmatic four cylinder and wiring by the Prince of darkness ! Love this channel.
Because there were no V8 Land Rovers before 1979 maybe? 🤷
A snatch land rover perhaps? Great for Northern Ireland not so useful in Iraq! Great video!
That looks like an ex RUC Hotspur armoured land rover was much older than the Snatch which had Kevlar armour
Very cool series 3, good job it's not a diesel.
My poor Girl still runs, we had some crackjng times with the old Girl, crack on mate.
I love this vehicle !
Jesus, 2.25 petrol with all that weight! That will be interesting!
Shades of my time in the MT section RAF any large heavy thing is a hammer.
tried a brick once, it fractured in half.
Yum yum that little four pot wouldnt pull the sin off a rice pudding with a standard body on let alone an armored one. You have a real gem there.
Oh yes there still some life left in the old girl yet!
Interesting it’s only the 4 cyl and not the v8 version bet it’s a very interesting drive with only the 4 cyl
Too early for the V8, they weren't available until 1979.
good video you made, i dont mind when you do vids on land rovers and other stuff.
The distributor cap was have a little dance meaning the rotor arm was not fitted properly but fair play to get that far!!.
If that was in Australia, all those webs would have redback spiders in them!
Well, he's wearing Redbacks, if that counts for anything!
I was just thinking the same thing. "DONT PUT YOUR BLOODY HAND IN THAT!" but then the poms don't need to worry about them like we do :D
That bonnet sounds mech like my two - non-armored land rovers. guessing engine was not the priority
I'd say would probably be a old RUC one seems to be a 80s one know later ones had v8 only had one careful owner never raced or rallied
I do like a land rover that is armoured would have a great use for that .....nice 🤣👌🏾
Beautiful rover
Would be interested to know the history on this 👍
Piglet... N.I armoured land rover variant.
@@MonkeyGus That's what I thought it was ! Poss ruc vehicle
It was on the balcony of the Iranian Embassy in 1980.
@@Brigadier9 an under appreciated comment.
@@Brigadier9 hahahaha
mate ur actually too funny 😂😂😂
LOL the Cap doing the Tango!!
Makes a nice change from tanks.
Have fun with that 😂
Needed the T-34 episode 5 fitting the fule pump an doing its first start please
Headlamp relay was sticky, then not sticky?
👍 nice vehicle
Hittin the battery terminal with the rear end of a 12" Adjustable Spanner. I can hear screams and lament of the Artificer Ghost of the Past.
Take a while armour plated and the smaller engine,, here in the later part of the troubles,, even a series 3had a. V8 engine,,, to get to a call out ☘️☘️☘️be a good project 😀😄
I was expecting a v8 when the bonnet opened 😮
Today's LR would be different, when it comes to an armoured version. They already have them for Royalty.
This is the perfect vehicle for the school run, can I borrow it once it is up and running?
Class Joe!
distributor cap dance got me
1 handed, blind folded in the dark.
PRO TIP. wind the nozzle out a bit on your brake clen bottle so its a fine line, that way you can get it straight down the carb with accuracy. xx
Your distributor cap is wobbling
Those series engines are impressive with what seems little effort to get the running… but I’ll stick with my TD5 thanks 🤣🤦♂
Cheaper to run it on brake cleaner 👍🏼
Cant turn anything off once its on :-)
Shooooooott even the Brit’s run on Napa
Did the RUC ever use 4 pots? Just dont try chasing a stolen car as they dont go round corners and if you know of a RUC one that the AC ever worked in can you tell its op number 🤣
I understood that the sas were equipped with the 3.5 v8 wolf landrover
Looks like the snatch wagons we had in Belfast. The IRA worked out that the door handle was the weakest spot on these vehicles and wouldn't withstand a direct hit from an RPG. They demonstrated this using a homemade RPG against an RUC snatch wagon and it penetrated the door handle and entered the driving compartment killing an RUC officer. Think this happened in the Markets area of Belfast (all this from memory, thirty odd years ago). After that, the armour was beefed up on the doors.
That distributor cap was moving around. Did you have both clips on secure?? something not right??
The 2 1/4 petrol series engine is the most reliable thing I the universe
It likes you and wants you to care for it