Respect to you for accepting you took a chance. Looking on the brighter side its a WHOLE lot cheaper than the £15k its just cost a friend to replace the engine in his Audi Q8 which snapped its chain and wrecked the whole lump! Logic here is as you have worked out Oil changes every 6k max. Making sure the EXACT grade of oil is used, and a genuine filter. Using premium diesel and regular motorway runs help a lot too.
Get rid of it before something else happens! Just getting back my LR Disco Sport tomorrow after five weeks in the garage having a new gearbox fitted. £3.6k.
Sorry but I just wouldn't buy a landrover. My cousins range engine ceased on the motor. It was an insurance right off. I wouldn't touch them with yours mate.
@JV-ks3eb what year was it.. what was his maintenance history what fuel did he use...how did he treat it.. sorry but another my uncles mates mum's next door neighbour bollocks...
Chance you take when you buy from an Auction. These Engines need regular oil servicing, and have to have a run on the motorway regularly, to avoid the fuel being dumped into the sump when regenerating. Oil dilution was your issue here and has probably had short journeys that add to the problem. 120,000 miles, so not bad. I service my Evoque every 6000 miles and do a motorway run every other week.
Buying from Auction now is Russian roulette as most dealers use the auction to dump stuff, and BCA siphon off a lot of the good stuff for their online sales channels.
its not a range rover , its a freelander ,,, they just write range rover on the back andd charge a premium so fools and posers can say they bought a range rover ,, ingenium engines are tragic . [ I repair them for a living.] You cant prevent it , all you can do is firefight the damage that the long service interval has done and hope the sludge wont kill the engine , the dpf the cat and the turbo , and a fair few sensors along the way ,,,, if you do actually own one of these hunks of junk ,,,, oil and filter change every 5k miles or six months , and you have to have to , have to do a decent run at least once a week ,,, That plate that was rattling is common enough , ive welded dozens of them , and the heat shield at the front too ,, again dozens of them . lucky you didnt have to do the balance shaft at the same time ,,, 2500 isnt a bad price , but , and heres the but ,just because the timing chains are done do not expect it to be a good car , it will need done again in another 50k miles and the dpf will cost the same , or more if the sensors dont all come out and work again , the cat is nearly the same and with the cat breaking up you can expect to do the turbo too , ,,, if you do short journeys like shopping trips and school runs trust me when I say , these are not the cars for you ,,,
@@gazdkw82 30 or 40 miles , 50mph plus and fourth or fifth gear , car as to be hot and exhaust system the same , if its happy it will regen and all may be good , you may see smoke and it may smell a tad funny , you can force a regen , but the cat and the dpf need to be hot or everything soots / carbons up , even the add blue injector .
I'd be keeping an eye on that DPF. So many owners stung for a lot more, turbos, DPFs, cam chains and rebuilt or new engines, it a disgrace. Shame on JLR.
3:29 hydraulic seperator should have done that easy or Normfest super crack + a larger copper headed thor hammer. I'm a full fat Range Rover fan to be honest, I used to work at Gaydon (engineering) and drove a few cars, 2.2 Evoque was a lagfest! SDV8 allllllllll day long love it. Subbed.
The DPF regen etc will fail, the engine will break.. I had a discovery sport, which i ultimately returned to the trader. In 6 weeks of 'ownership', it was off the road for 5 weeks and 5 days.
Thanks for sharing your expensive risk on buying an unchecked car from a used car auction. Better off selling your car quickly in the months ahead to protect your profit margin and finding a better more reliable car. Good luck! 😊
Had an Audi s4 and the previous owner spent £2.5k on the timing chain. But that was almost the price of the car. I’m sure if you keep the car for years then it’s all good. Great vid!
120k and services every 2 years and only now does the chain need replacing? Not bad going really. If only there was a comparison with similar cars services every 6k miles/1 year
Just rev it when you drive it so the DPF regen does not to be done so much. Not short journeys so the DPF regen completely. The reason why the DPF regen does not complete is the ingenium diesel was designed for longitudinal mounting not transverse…
The engine isn’t the problem, it’s people following Land Rover’s idiotic service schedule. I’m lucky that I already do long drives on the motorway frequently and I add a full service every 10km. Both are needed for trouble free motoring on this engine. His mum needs to do an hour’s drive on the motorway every week, if she’s only doing short stop / start journeys the rest of the time.
Mate, you bought a motor from auction, it's a gamble, especially with these terrible ingenium engines, we have one in the wife's disco sport, we change the oil every 5k max.. And so far, it's been spot on. But, she can't get the fact that the chain WILL go at some point, and she's looking to get into something else. Avoid this engine, and land rovers aren't that bad.
Glutton for punishment. Wont be long before its back in the garage. Crap engine will make continuous content. You need to have a serious chat with your mum, or keep on paying the bills.
The timing chain is just one of several major problems that can happen, turbos are weak, oil diluting, cylinder 1 damage due to exhaust fuel injection for dpf regen. Dpf fails, balance shafts go. Poor quality parts. Just rubbish.
So they say you should just 5-6k service them. Like how a garage owner would his own car bored end of a week just over service not long life service. So is this jusy bad design and extended services protocol? Frightening stuff really. And sad. Thinking about early Jazz Corolla around 02-08. Hard to break these. What a joke all this advanced engine tech. Pop up bonnet passenger protect. And the cars like kinda price. Cheaply made and break as a consequence.
I felt sick for you really how bad was this. I have a range rover sport and I regret buying it every week. Yesterday the bottom screen failed after it was only in the garage on Friday last week for another issue. I am going ba k to Mercedes at least I know where I am with that brand. Sorry your mum's car caused so much trouble for you sickening
Would a warranty cover this if it was still running not snapped iv got same problem , mine runs well tho. But very nosey well sounds like a deisel engine ther all mouse but I Have a platinum warranty
These engine's are cr** , I had a jaguar xe r-sport 20d and was fine, I serviced it every 12 months , oil change every 6 months Had it till 74000 ml, then got rid . As it started to rattle?. I part ex it , the garage would only give me £6000 for the car ( it was immaculate) Saying to me the engine in these are terrible,and they would find it hard to sell on ?. A week later they sold it on for £10250.00. Probably hoping it will last till out of there warranty ?.
Respect to you for accepting you took a chance. Looking on the brighter side its a WHOLE lot cheaper than the £15k its just cost a friend to replace the engine in his Audi Q8 which snapped its chain and wrecked the whole lump! Logic here is as you have worked out Oil changes every 6k max. Making sure the EXACT grade of oil is used, and a genuine filter. Using premium diesel and regular motorway runs help a lot too.
Oil chaange max 2500-3000Km or max 3 months.
Get rid of it before something else happens! Just getting back my LR Disco Sport tomorrow after five weeks in the garage having a new gearbox fitted. £3.6k.
You bought it with out checking it don't slag of landrover buyer beware of auctions
Totally agree
Embarrassing!!! The wet patch in that ceiling looked like it was from his head
Sorry but I just wouldn't buy a landrover. My cousins range engine ceased on the motor. It was an insurance right off. I wouldn't touch them with yours mate.
@JV-ks3eb what year was it.. what was his maintenance history what fuel did he use...how did he treat it.. sorry but another my uncles mates mum's next door neighbour bollocks...
@@JV-ks3eb What insurance company pays out for a busted engine?
Or are you saying it was the warranty?
There’s a reason why cars go through auctions 😳😳😳😳
That didn`t break after one week. It was already broken.
Had bigger chains on my bicycle way back when, and it never had plastic leggo to keep It tentioned up
Chance you take when you buy from an Auction. These Engines need regular oil servicing, and have to have a run on the motorway regularly, to avoid the fuel being dumped into the sump when regenerating. Oil dilution was your issue here and has probably had short journeys that add to the problem. 120,000 miles, so not bad. I service my Evoque every 6000 miles and do a motorway run every other week.
Buying from Auction now is Russian roulette as most dealers use the auction to dump stuff, and BCA siphon off a lot of the good stuff for their online sales channels.
Can't argue with any of that mate, we have one in the wife's disco sport and we do the oil every 5k..
@@beenzer1109 exactly, every 5k is spot on.
its not a range rover , its a freelander ,,, they just write range rover on the back andd charge a premium so fools and posers can say they bought a range rover ,, ingenium engines are tragic . [ I repair them for a living.] You cant prevent it , all you can do is firefight the damage that the long service interval has done and hope the sludge wont kill the engine , the dpf the cat and the turbo , and a fair few sensors along the way ,,,, if you do actually own one of these hunks of junk ,,,, oil and filter change every 5k miles or six months , and you have to have to , have to do a decent run at least once a week ,,, That plate that was rattling is common enough , ive welded dozens of them , and the heat shield at the front too ,, again dozens of them . lucky you didnt have to do the balance shaft at the same time ,,, 2500 isnt a bad price , but , and heres the but ,just because the timing chains are done do not expect it to be a good car , it will need done again in another 50k miles and the dpf will cost the same , or more if the sensors dont all come out and work again , the cat is nearly the same and with the cat breaking up you can expect to do the turbo too , ,,, if you do short journeys like shopping trips and school runs trust me when I say , these are not the cars for you ,,,
What are you classing as a decent run?
@@gazdkw82 30 or 40 miles , 50mph plus and fourth or fifth gear , car as to be hot and exhaust system the same , if its happy it will regen and all may be good , you may see smoke and it may smell a tad funny , you can force a regen , but the cat and the dpf need to be hot or everything soots / carbons up , even the add blue injector .
@@tomthompson7400 how do you override the auto box to keep it in 4th or 5th?
@@gazdkw82 sport mode
I'd be keeping an eye on that DPF. So many owners stung for a lot more, turbos, DPFs, cam chains and rebuilt or new engines, it a disgrace. Shame on JLR.
Mario is a gem in Berkshire :)
There should be a recall on that jeeze .
3:29 hydraulic seperator should have done that easy or Normfest super crack + a larger copper headed thor hammer. I'm a full fat Range Rover fan to be honest, I used to work at Gaydon (engineering) and drove a few cars, 2.2 Evoque was a lagfest! SDV8 allllllllll day long love it. Subbed.
Cheap is not good. Good is not cheap.
why did you not change the clutch whilst the engine was split?
The DPF regen etc will fail, the engine will break.. I had a discovery sport, which i ultimately returned to the trader. In 6 weeks of 'ownership', it was off the road for 5 weeks and 5 days.
Wow labour rate of just £50 per hour + VAT…not in the South East it isn’t!
And the oil was super cheap too. Labour rates down south are £150 per hour.
Wow great repair job ! Whats the garage you took it to ?
Thanks. Am interested in the time on these JLR product Ingemium chains. Garages sigh and say no. And to minis. So I cannot buy them
Thanks for sharing your expensive risk on buying an unchecked car from a used car auction. Better off selling your car quickly in the months ahead to protect your profit margin and finding a better more reliable car. Good luck! 😊
I’ll stick to my Volvo’s
Old high mileage Ingenuim at Auction needs a Chain, I'd be more surprised if it didn't need thousands spending on it lol
What else you expect from JLR?
Had an Audi s4 and the previous owner spent £2.5k on the timing chain. But that was almost the price of the car. I’m sure if you keep the car for years then it’s all good. Great vid!
Exactly, just needs regular servicing to help!
21 k oil change dont help . change at 10k
Not bad for a car with 120k on the odometer
120k and services every 2 years and only now does the chain need replacing? Not bad going really. If only there was a comparison with similar cars services every 6k miles/1 year
Good luck with it and hope your mum has many miles of happy motoring with it now.
@@twiz1084 Thanks 👊🏻
So the best way to prevent this is frequent oil and filter changes?
Correct, I will be getting this done every 5k.
Just rev it when you drive it so the DPF regen does not to be done so much. Not short journeys so the DPF regen completely. The reason why the DPF regen does not complete is the ingenium diesel was designed for longitudinal mounting not transverse…
The engine isn’t the problem, it’s people following Land Rover’s idiotic service schedule.
I’m lucky that I already do long drives on the motorway frequently and I add a full service every 10km. Both are needed for trouble free motoring on this engine.
His mum needs to do an hour’s drive on the motorway every week, if she’s only doing short stop / start journeys the rest of the time.
Would not touch with a barge pole.
Mate, you bought a motor from auction, it's a gamble, especially with these terrible ingenium engines, we have one in the wife's disco sport, we change the oil every 5k max.. And so far, it's been spot on.
But, she can't get the fact that the chain WILL go at some point, and she's looking to get into something else.
Avoid this engine, and land rovers aren't that bad.
Glutton for punishment. Wont be long before its back in the garage. Crap engine will make continuous content. You need to have a serious chat with your mum, or keep on paying the bills.
If you buy a land rover make sure you have a friend with a landcruiser, to come pick it up.
The timing chain is just one of several major problems that can happen, turbos are weak, oil diluting, cylinder 1 damage due to exhaust fuel injection for dpf regen. Dpf fails, balance shafts go. Poor quality parts. Just rubbish.
Frightening stuff, plenty of sleepless nights for ingenium owners.
LANDCRUISER
So they say you should just 5-6k service them. Like how a garage owner would his own car bored end of a week just over service not long life service. So is this jusy bad design and extended services protocol? Frightening stuff really. And sad. Thinking about early Jazz Corolla around 02-08. Hard to break these. What a joke all this advanced engine tech. Pop up bonnet passenger protect. And the cars like kinda price. Cheaply made and break as a consequence.
I felt sick for you really how bad was this. I have a range rover sport and I regret buying it every week. Yesterday the bottom screen failed after it was only in the garage on Friday last week for another issue. I am going ba k to Mercedes at least I know where I am with that brand. Sorry your mum's car caused so much trouble for you sickening
Why do people buy this crap ? I have an X3 G01 thats just over 4 years old and not a whiff of an issue !
wow in scotland they do these jobs for £1200 latent defect with these cars looks like the same on wet belts
Where in Scotchland can that job be done for £1200/
@@davidboyle5761 my neighbour got it done through a web site you put the job out there and was done in paisley
What a pile of crap those cars are!!
I can’t believe you see so many on the road, I’d never buy a modern LR in a million years !!
Would a warranty cover this if it was still running not snapped iv got same problem , mine runs well tho. But very nosey well sounds like a deisel engine ther all mouse but I Have a platinum warranty
These engine's are cr** , I had a jaguar xe r-sport 20d and was fine, I serviced it every 12 months , oil change every 6 months
Had it till 74000 ml, then got rid . As it started to rattle?. I part ex it , the garage would only give me £6000 for the car ( it was immaculate)
Saying to me the engine in these are terrible,and they would find it hard to sell on ?. A week later they sold it on for £10250.00.
Probably hoping it will last till out of there warranty ?.
Sell it and buy a Lexus!
Just Buy Honda Japanese not British
Toyota, Lexus,