Rudy Giuliani Ordered to Pay $148 Million, Goes Bankrupt
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You have never actually reviewed the movie ‘Legal Eagles’, right? (Or have I actually missed it?)
That feels like a bit of an omission.
hunter biden
Tried watching this on Nebula. Unfortunately, like a lot of people, it seems (look at the comments on the Google Play Store), any video longer than 10 minutes is crashing my tablet (which is running Android 12, so hardly out of date). It's a shame because the contents are terrific but the current state of the app is spoiling it. 😢
Man, it's gotta be the Colorado Supreme Court decision about Trump's eligibility, right? I've got my fingers crossed, and would really like an experienced legal explainer abut the ins and outs of potentially arguing the case in front of SCOTUS
@@y_fam_goeglyd get a pc
As a New Yorker who personally knows 4+ people who died on 9/11, to hear that Rudy Giuliani, the MAYOR OF NEW YORK ON THAT DAY, is now selling signed 9/11 memorabilia for $911 might be the slimiest, grossest, most disgusting thing a person can do. He is beyond redemption to me at this point.
Sorry for your loss. I agree about the "9-11 memorbilia." Bad taste Rudy, BAD taste.
He just happened to be the mayor - nothing more. He has ridden the coattails of that tragic event ever since. He makes me sick.
I was working for the city of NYC back then. Around 2003, 2004 the FBI was investigating a ton of "misappropriation" of federal funds meant to go towards the 9/11 memorial / reconstruction. There was slimey shite going on way before...
He always has been. It's just coming to light now.
@@Mark-qq9cdApparently he thought rising to the occasion was a temp job.
"Your honor, my client, a former United States attorney, is an idiot"....hard to believe that didn't help Giuliani's cause.
Former Presidential Hopeful, Mayor, Prosecutor...
He wasn't THIS dumb before. That's not a defense, we were still shit for voting for him.
He’s brain froze when tRump invited him down the rabbit hole.
Working for Trump had made Rudy slow and stupid.
Imagine losing a defamation case, going outside from the courthouse you just lost in, and defaming the same people again. the ACTUAL audacity.
Yes, and I hope both Plantiffs go back for another bite of that defamation apple. Eff around & find out, again.
Caucacity.
The thing is though is that if he keeps claiming that he's "right and it's a cover up blah blah blah" those who are blind followers will keep following.
tbh those people have been through enough and he likely can't even pay back 10 mil or sth
so it would just waste everyone's time and tax money
wasting the defedant's time (in prison) sure, but no one else should waste more time on this case really
@@sneakerbabeful
Imagine the audacity of thinking you’re owed hundreds of millions of dollars, I wish cons would start suing liberals for these insane amounts. Nick Sandmann should’ve owned CNN by now.
A quick warning to anyone watching this video while they're eating: you may be exposed to images of Rudy Giuliani.
"Everything I said about them is true," says the man who offered zero evidence during his own trial to prove that.
well he didnt get that far because he just filed a statement admitting to defaming them so it would go straight to deciding how much he owed them.
Exodus 20:19 and Deuteronomy 5:20. Basically don't lie about people.
100% right, words are nothing in court, but evidence is everything.
He refused to participate with discovery actually...@@cerebrumexcrement
Can't pay for a parking ticket? End up in jail. Can't pay 150 million? Just call yourself bankrupt. And they call that "justice". What a joke.
Thankfully it looks like the $150mil cannot be discharged by bankruptcy. He'll owe that for the rest of his life.
@@CullenJWebb Yeah, this is how it went with Alex Jones too. Bankruptcy doesn't absolve you of the consequences of your own malice.
Rules only apply to the poor
@@CullenJWebbIf debt can't be inherited, why can wealth?
@@romdotdog debt can be inherited...
It's always funny and convenient that people who flaunt their wealth and have exorbitant amounts of money suddenly go bankrupt when they owe people money that's known publicly.
Simple way out of paying anything, they’ll go through the bank accounts but it’s been “paid” to shell companies they own to keep it.
yeah, I think a lot of people saw this coming.
Doesn't work when the money owed falls into this category. He's just getting out from under his legal fees. The judgement money will come out of whatever he brings in going forward.
@@ironhell813
See also: the Catholic dioceses of Baltimore and Sacramento.
You can't discharge fines or restitution included in a criminal sentencing in any type of bankruptcy case.
Those women didn't deserve any of the harassment they deal with. Its crazy how a cult has taken over so many people even after they get exposed.
Always funny when people who talk with the fanatical zeal of medieval inquisitors about the blasphemous "deniers" of their "climate crisis" religious doomsday prophesies think everyone else is in a cult.
IIRC, exposing a cult makes it more legitimate to its believers, because "people talk about it"
@@laplongejunior Believe me, I was part of the Far-Right cult. I too felt to their lies and conspiracies. It is not easy to recover and face the truth.
At least they’ll get a bit of dosh from this hopefully.
Trumpers called this trial a political witch hunt.
But it was their chance in court to prove they were right. And couldn't.
As a non american, this whole thing is better than anything on netflix
The entire country is on this supposed witch hunt, yet when it comes to being elected, suddenly most of us secretly love him and “totally did” vote for him. Lol riiiight….
yeah all democrat judges and courts
Reminds me of Trump reprising his "Make America Great Again" slogan after being president for 4 years and not having accomplished said promise, whatever that even means. Hey, Trumpists and MAGAts, why isn't America great again? Did your battery lit plastic Jesus flub it again? I mean, it's not like he went out of business 19 times (soon to be 20) or something....
But Rudy isn't a politician tho LoL
I would just like to clarify, Rudy is only declaring "financial" bankruptcy.
He became morally bankrupt around 2003 and has never recovered.
good one XD
Do you even know him? If there was a moment when he became morally bankrupt it was way before 2003. But I think the reason he went to a political field was because he has no morals. This is why they chosed him to his role in 2001.
Rudy went morally bankrupt before he 'threw out the mafia from New York' - in essence driving out the Old Families and making room for East-European 'Organitzkaya'.@@Zodroo_Tint
He was already morally bankrupt in 1993 when he was a completely corrupt mayor who was responsible for the abuse and false imprisonment of millions of people for his own gain, if not even earlier.
Wrong. He was morally wrong as a young man already. It's just that the world hadn't caught up on his bs yet.
Rudy’s lawyer’s last defense makes me laugh every time.
“Rudy, it’s okay, I saw this in a movie. I’m going to bring up how you’re a hero who just lost his way. They’ll be so moved, they’ll HAVE to forgive you!”
Court: “….148 million dollars.”
Lawyer: “….Damn it!”
Look, trying to defend Rudy Guiliani from a jury that clearly doesn't believe his statements was always going to be a massive uphill battle. You're not going to convince them he was right, and trying to convince them he had a good-faith belief in his statements just makes him seem even more unhinged. This was honestly one of the better approaches for the defence to take.
4:16 I realize it's supposed to make the accusers look silly that the supposed 'USB drive containing fake votes' was actually a ginger mint, but it's terrifying for me to think about how these women could have lost their lives over what turned out to be nothing but a ginger mint. Thank you for all that you do.
Lost their lives?
@@m8rs558 3:35 Death threats are mentioned.
@@m8rs558 did you miss the bit in the video/court case where the women received death threats, were told they were going to be lynched, had people try to break into the homes of family members looking for them, and that they had to move out of their home for months for safety reasons?
@@asturias0267 Don't have to be an ass about it, I was genuinely curious
@@m8rs558I mean, it was fairly obvious. And tbf that's the kind of "nah they weren't in danger" questioning the cultists like to use when they wanna fake like they're just good honorable "Patriots"
Kinda funny that his lawyer just came out and said: my client is an idiot
He saw no other way to get the jury on their side, and he's correct
@@ManiacX1999well your job in that position is to best represent the person and give them a fair trial… but this guy did everything possible to bond his lawyers of the evidence they need to argue his case and give a proper defence…. So yeah I’d call him an idiot as well.
I’m convinced Giuliani’s lawyers hate him.
@@ZombieZebra3 Just like every other sane person in the World...
@@RichardPierpoint-di8fi I disagree, I'm a bit on the nut side and still hate him!
I know its not to be taken literally, I just felt like messing around and have a bit of fun.
Hope you're having or going to have great holydays!
It's mind boggling to me to get found guilty and bankrupted by a court for defamation, and then step out onto the court steps and say "Everything I said was true, 100%" just to...what, save some face in the tiny circle of followers you still have? In exchange for giving someone a free, automatic win on a new lawsuit? It's absolutly insane. Unhinged, warped behavior by a person who's disconnected from reality.
That’s what happens when you gather followers that most would rather not have.
These wingnuts are to politicians what Jpop Stans are to Idols, and watching these conservatives constantly have to jingle keys in front of them as everyone respectable leaves this is beautifully cathartic.
Ghoulianis words. "the truth, is not the truth." "Trial by Combat."." I told the truth."😂
They are not scared, they don’t care.
Rudy probably transferred all assets into a trust in some Cayman Islands.
Shit like that should just be automatic jail.
@@stingerjohnny9951 hey, at least Kpop idols are actually giving something of value to society
Nothing says “personal responsibility” quite like talking shit and defaming private citizens without any actual proof right up to the point of conviction and then filing for bankruptcy when told to pay up. Make him pay!
Yeye. With what he put those poor women through all of that fear and emotional abuse and harassment and smeared their reputation. They deserve to be heavily compensated for this especially since they most definitely feared for their lives.
I got arrested in NYC for smoking a roach once. Under Rudy's watch. Just imagine how happy I am to hear this...
They should just leave people who are desperate enough to smoke a roach alone. That is ridiculous imo
Amazing story, I can’t believe Rudy made you smoke drugs in public.
Two wrongs do not a right make.
In your defense, having to do with Rudy, for any length of time would inspire most men to turn to substances.
The funniest part is he still claims he has a “smoking gun,” when that was what the whole discovery process was for, yet he refused to participate in anything.
Yeah, it's a 'protect Trump' thing.
As it all ties in to those trials, there isn't anything they can take from this one really to use against Trump.
Also known as the "Jones Gambit"
Lol they all seem to have one yet its never shown or even exists 😅
The most shocking fact about this whole ordeal is what Republican voters are willing to accept as "evidence".
They don’t believe in evidence. Only feelings.
Confirmation bias
I think a lot of people on both sides of the aisle don't really care about facts or the pursuit of truth. Republicans aren't special in that regard.
If you start with the assumption that trump won and then work backwards, you will have to use very faulty reasoning to make your arguements
Watch the video of them pulling ballets from under the table
This is why I like watching Legal Eagle's videos. He seriously reached out to the dude, had him make a cameo, just to include it on his video while delivering burn after burn 😂
I can't imagine how hard Devins team must've laughed when they got Rudis cameo!
I do casual election work in another country. Lady Ruby and Shaye are our heroes.
When you work on an election, you never want to be the story. It's been unimaginably hard for them to be targeted by some of the most powerful people in the world, but they handled it with aplomb. Raise a ginger mint in their honour.
Never forget that at any point, Giuliani could've just...stopped. But he didn't.
His addiction to fame and power is only rivaled by his addiction to alcohol.
I can't figure out if he's a true believer deluded cult member or not. He knew there was no evidence, you'd think out of self preservation he would have stopped beating a dead horse. Maybe Trump has something on him.
@@shevek2954 What power? Lol, he was the ex president's lawyer.
Hasn't is the word you're looking for. He hasn't stopped.
AND he's still going!
I wouldn't be surprised if he came back as a zombie, just to lie to the press.
After marrying his cousin, giving a press conference at a landscaping company, and dropping trou in a Borat movie, Rudy Giuliani is finally bankrupt…financially.
That press conference was next to a funeral parlour, across the road from aporn shop... Poor Rudy didn't know whether he was coming or going!
Oh, hey Mr. Joke thief. Seth Meyers says hi.
@@Hotobu I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.
@@Hotobu joke thief? it's a youtube comment, not a stand-up special.
@@RyleeStrange Then he should pay Seth back in likes. At the time of the publishing of this post, the OP earned 102 likes off this joke.
I worked as a Poll Judge and Inspector in Indiana for 9 years and the people I worked with are some of the nicest, most earnest people you'll meet,especially in government. Knowing that people who I could've worked with were treated like this makes me furious. I hope they soak Giuliani for all he's worth.
the lesson, kids: Do not ruin lives.
I wish the 2 victims a quick transfer and many many good years with rudy's money.
@@jessebaldwin34 Drumpf lost and accused two (conveniently black) women of being hustlers and professional election scammers
@@jessebaldwin34Yes they are
@@jessebaldwin34 feel free to go into the details. Especially if you mean a stolen election or some stuff like that.
in its current form, your claim is so vague I cannot even hope to adress is. Victims how?
(also, punctuation is a thing. They are obviously not the victims we are. We are the victims we are. Duh! Still, I know what you tried to write:
they are not the victims. We are.
Details, please)
Rudy in 2019: "I am afraid it will be on my gravestone. 'Rudy Giuliani: He lied for Trump.'" Since then, he's been doing everything in his power to make sure that becomes a reality...it's a bold strategy, Cotton!
He said "I ain't gonna be afraid of it no more."
Hard to think of an American who put so spent more time and effort to undermining their reputation and legacy.
If they don't put it on there, I'll carve it there myself.
The rest of that quote goes: "So what? I'll be dead.... I'm sure I can explain it to St. Peter"
Nonsense, he won't be able to afford a gravestone. That's his out.
My company was in a lawsuit where the other side destroyed evidence. Our lawyers high-fived when they found out. It was absolutely the best thing that could have happened for us. The jury was instructed to assume our claims about what the 5 gig contained were true.
Is that an unreasonable assumption?
"We destroyed the evidence in this case, but really we're innocent in this matter. It's our involvement in the JFK assassination that we're covering for."
I wonder if they did the calculation of how much more damaging the information would be, and then destroyed the info based on the outcome. I'm sure Rudy doesn't need to do that calculation because the result is so obvious.
@@SocialDownclimberseems unlikely. Afaik spoliation of evidence results in the judge assuming or instructing the jury to act as though the missing evidence is as negative as possible for their case. Courts have every reason to strongly disincentivise destroying evidence.
Maybe if it would've revealed and opened them up to an unrelated but worse offense.
@@UnliVWI think that's what he meant. The only smart reason for destroying evidence is if that evidence would implicate you in additional crimes. Same reason Rudy defied discovery; losing the defamation lawsuit is better than going to prison.
"I admire really good attorneys..." How the hell would Giuliani know what a good attorney is?
Easy, it's any attorney who does exactly the opposite of what he would do.
That was the most surreal moment of the whole video.
@ahit was a paid cameo lmao umanmerelybeing
He WAS a good lawyer once, he took on Mob and won. but that was 40 years, and dementia ago.
The humiliation of making Rudy do that cameo... Priceless! In case anyone is curious, Rudy has temporarily suspended his cameos
A $30,000 unpaid *phone bill*?! That's the most "Arson, murder, and jaywalking" bit of data I've ever heard.
How do you manage to get a phone bill like that?
I don't know about US phone providers, but my phone company gives me unlimited calls into my country's entire net.
@@Bird_Dog00 US phone and internet providers are extremely predatory compared to Europe, for a variety of reasons, from "the US is just stupidly big with vast swathes of very low-population-density areas, making infrastructure per capita very costly", to carving up the country between fairly monolithic providers so you don't really get true freedom of choice, leading to monopolistic practices and price gouging. Sad but true ;/
@@Bakecrusto Not true. Any number of phone companies give deals for unlimited calls for under $50 per month.
@@Bakecrusto Yea, I was imagining something like this, but still, 30 grand is a lot of talking over the phone...
@@Bird_Dog00most phone plans have unlimited calls within US.
There are caps on data usage.
That whole argument 'but think of what he did after 911' by Giuliani's defence lawyer is no different than 'but Chad is a football star! He shouldn't be punished for assaulting that woman!'
Both are abhorrent, both are BS, and I am happy that, at least in this case, the jury treated it like the garbage that it is. Hopefully someday, more Chads will be punished in this way as well.
I think the defense lawyer was using desperate measures. He knew he was going to lose hard, and was basically throwing things at the wall in the hopes something would stick, in the vain hope that even his own salary would get paid.
He decided that the crisis response committee to be located in WTC, despite being told that it was a prime target for terrosist attacks.
He made the head of said crisis response committee the head of the dispatcher union only because he was the only pro Giuliani union leader.
Giuliani decreased funding for firefighters' radio equipment, which directly led to deaths of rescue workers.
After 9/11, he responded by being on TV, which was a more immediate response than Bush finishing the kid's story book
From my understanding he did shit and just took credit for things he actively hampered
Rudy Giuliani is currently selling signed 9/11 memorabilia for $911.
As a New Yorker who personally knows 4+ people who died that day, to hear that he is selling that for $911 might be the slimiest, grossest, most disgusting thing I could ever think of.
He is BEYOND redemption to me at this point.
Even if he does flip on Trump it wouldn't forgive the past years. And this is looking possible since Trump doesn't seem to way to pay Giuliani's lawyers anymore either, which is...odd. You'd think the one other guy who knows EVERYTHING and could put you in prison FOREVER would be the guy you'd keep paying lawyers for, but hey, Trump doesn't pay his lawyers either so I guess they're kindred spirits.
But selling signed 9/11 memorabilia for $911 to raise money for lawsuits he BROUGHT ON HIMSELF.? *Terrible person. He was the MAYOR of NYC ON 9/11* and now he's selling that stuff and cameos for a couple hundred bucks.
F you Rudy Giuliani. To think how we all supported you during that time DESPITE your faults. And as someone else here said: he took a lot of credit for stuff he didn't do, AND dodged responsibility on things that were his fault (e.g. communication systems between fire & police, one of dozens of failures). But, faults aside and without 20/20 hindsight, he led us through a dark time.
To sell that memorabilia at that price........It is such a disgusting thing to me that I don't think I can overstate it. In fact I'm afraid I'm understating it.
@@BungleJoogie68Exactly this, Rudi did terribly but had good PR to make people think he did well.
Funny how these guys always suddenly become bankrupt when it's time for them to literally pay for their crimes.
Yep - called asset protection.
I feel like my grandmother right now but all I can say is that Giuliani should feel ashamed of himself. I feel like someone should follow him at all times ringing a shame bell.
Yes! Bring back creative punishments
He was already morally and intellectually bankrupt. Finances was just the final step.
lol
Let the ugliness outside match the ugliness within. Now it does.
Let's have an introspective moment of silence for poor Rudy, because if it happens to him, it can happen to anybody who sells his soul for power and profit and starts spouting unhinged BS without any regard that it will ruin and destroy people's lives
*Hands out noisemakers, vuvuzelas and kazoos*
To think he could have retired after 2001 as America’s mayor and been wealthy and respected.
But it CAN’T happen to “anyone,” because most of us are smart enough not to hitch our wagon to such a despicable, disgusting charlatan posing as a politician.
Now I have to go look up what a vuvuzela is
@@tonis5140 A kind of trumpet they use in South Africa at football (soccer) games.
[Insert Harley Quinn playing kazoo here]
It's truly disconcerting to see how heavy misinformation can lead to such catastrophic repercussions. The course that Rudy Giuliani has taken only shows the importance of truth and integrity, especially in matters of a legal and political nature. Let's hope our society learns from these incidents and strives for more transparency moving forward.
It is disgraceful that it took 3 years for these poor women to get any form of justice. It is abhorrent that the ringleader is yet again running for president with high demand, freely appearing at public events to loud applause. Simply grassroots corruption.
Sorry, but don’t hold your breath.
Its called Rupert Murdoch. The king of misinformation and American deaths for the past 50 years. Guess what company he owns? Guess who all the clowns really work for.
I've been disconcerted my whole life.
*looks at society, then you, then back to society* ummm....we're definitely going the opposite direction.
Like voter I.D. and enforcing voting laws.
There should be a "Law" or something where if one is found guilty of defamation and then that person Immediately defames you outside the court, goes straight to Jail for a few nights.
I think that might fall under the "who would be that stupid?" area of law, where they didn't make it illegal because no one would be that stupid, right?
Right?
Right???
After leaving office in NYC, Rudy could have sat on half a dozen boards and collected millions in speaker fees and led an idyllic life...the fact he went this direction is just amazing.
He's addicted to fame and being near the center of power.
Also, alcohol.
@@shevek2954 but being "America's Mayor" and giving pep talks to CEOs _is_ power.
I think at some point he started believing the conspiracies. That speech he gave at the 2016 convention was insane.
@@shevek2954 he has a problem with the bottle? Edited. Damn autocomplete
@@andrewshandle the human mind is malleable, especially when motivated. if he believed the lies, it's because he wanted to. trump has that effect on people.
Sapphire: I saw this as a possibility, but I'm surprised this is the route we're taking
this is a prime example of
"yes...... you are free say anything you like, but you are NOT free; from the consequences of what you say"
Imm’a say whatever I want. 🖕
@@TempusverumI think you need to improve your reading comprehension. No one is saying you cannot say whatever you want. What people are saying is that there may be consequences for what you say.
Getting Giuliani to do the cameo for Devon was the chef's kiss and worth the $15 bucks that it cost.👍
rudy stating in his bankruptcy documents that he has 30k in phone bills is insane. that just shows to you the power that comes with wealth when corporations will chase down the poor with debt collectors over $50 but allow media figures to run wild owing them an entire years worth of pay
The guy has an unpaid phone bill that's more than a lot of people's yearly income. That's insane.
All those calls to 1-900 numbers really add up. 😂
(for those of you younglings, "premium rate" phone numbers were a thing in the days before the internet that people used to call for... "entertainment" purposes)
@@GSBarlevI GOT IT!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why they wouldnt just stop servicing his phone confuses me
@@TheModdedwarfare3 probably the same reason lawyers continue to work for trump: they think they will be paid eventually.
@@TheModdedwarfare3 The former mayor? Such an esteemed gentleman? We can't do that..(sarcasm)
God, you know you’re screwed when the best defense you can come up with is “your honor, my client is clearly senile.” 😂
A key part of this to remember is that Truth is an absolute defense against any claim of defamation. All Rudy needed to do to make this case go away is produce some kind of credible evidence- an email, a document, witness testimony, anything that might be seen as reliable and relevant by the court- to show his claims were true. But he couldn't, and so he's toast.
At first I though $148MM was a little crazy, but after hearing about the magnitude of harassment these two women experienced I think they deserve every cent and I hope that Ruby spends the rest of his life in poverty with every paycheck being garnished
would trump donate to him?
@@wowseanIn the video he mentioned Trump giving him money.
You think they should get paid $8,500.00 a hour for the next 70 years? I guess you agree with CEO pay then.....
actually it's said Trump held a crowdfunding dinner but we don't actually know if he gave Rudy the money, or how much of it. @@jenniferstine8567
@@austJWYour math doesn't add up.
The point is to be punitive. Wealthy people shouldn't get to attempt to destroy people for the equivalent of a delivery fee. Switching gears to Alex Jones, he's "struggling" on with a $100,000 per month budget while facing a 1.1 billion judgement.
I'm going to work hard in my life not to end up at a point where my lawyer is having to tell the judge, "Look, he's just a stupid old man. Cut him some slack."
Get your crimes done early. :)
A life lesson for us all, I think.
I really hope he doesn't manage to get out of this by fundraising from gullible people who don't understand his rights weren't violated. "Free speech" doesn't mean "Can say whatever you want and ruin the lives of two people who provably did nothing wrong."
Or maybe he'll skim a decent bit off of people who'd otherwise donate to the Trump war chest? We can only hope.
Edit: Thanks to everyone who mentioned he actually has to post the full damages amount as bond to make an appeal. I'm still a little worried the judge will reduce the amount but, honestly, even the compensatory amount the two ladies were asking for would be great.
Not likely. Trump has cast Rudy aside.
If gullible people spend money on Giuliani, the plaintiffs get paid. I'm fine with that!
What is Trump war chest? Biden is the one that lost the Iraq war then paid for 2 world war 3s across the world ..
If money goes from the gullible through Rudy to the Georgia poll workers, I’m down with that.
@@trizkit995Rudy most likely won’t see any of the money from the 100k per head dinner. That will go straight into trump coffers.
My heart breaks for these women. This should Never had happened to them. All the money in the world is never going remove what they have gone through.
Lol waaaah
They literally just won the lottery
Ok, gimme the money then
im pretty sure literally every woman in the world would gladly go through it for that much money.
yeah its bad, but they couldve quit. they didnt. the guy is a clown, they were right to sue, but calm down. a lot of people have gone through far worse, and not been compensated anywhere near as much.
false imprisonment comes to mind. people who have been tortured, or people who have had their homes destroyed by police and refused compensation by the state.
yet this, this is apparently the most harrowing thing ever. a thing you can leave at any moment?
@@Nbomber they grew up learning how Black people were hung by the KKK, and have now experienced hatred directed at that with nooses. I don't think anyone who isn't Black will completely understand what that is like. So forgive me if I can't agree with you.
I live in the UK, where in the last few years politics seems to have gone insane. But it's never quite as insane as what goes on in the USA.
I'm in Canada and it's mindboggling that a man who attempted a violent coup d'etat & threatens revenge still has an excellent chance of becoming President. 🇨🇦🇬🇧
@@nicholashylton6857 I heard a Canadian comedian say America is the like that neighbour you politely wave over the fence to... but hope they never come over.
What a despicable man; destroying the lives of two innocent women for a conman who will throw him under the bus to save his own neck.
he tried to whistle blow but didbt know how. ordinarily a protected activity. he did minor mistep of his words though. instead of say he is suspicious he outright accused them. so its kind of semi guilty in my opinion.
and then to me he did negligence not malice. in which punitive damages shouldnt apply. they only apply if malice involved. its not convincing evidence he was trying to harm them.
@@henlohenlo689😂😂😂😂😂😂 desperate.
@@henlohenlo689 whistle blow? the mental gymnastics at work is awe-inspiring.
@@henlohenlo689 Man, you are hitting that copum hard.
May want to put it aside and come back to reality before it causes any further brain damage.
@@morgoth5460 any time ur reporting potential misconduct from a company or officials or govt etc. it is called whistleblowing but u have to do it proper avenues of application. legally its protected activity. so impossible for guiliani to get into trouble if he did it proper. there is actual laws protecting it.
its why the case is odd because he entirely got f'd due to lack of legal knowledge which is amazing from someone of his job history. maybe senility played role.
The defense of "He was a good man once and shouldn't be punished for who he is now but who he once was." is so freaking outrageous that I hope no jury falls for that one...
Following that line of argumentation a fireman that once upon a time saved a baby from a burning house gets a free pass to rape, murder and steal for the rest of his life? How rediculous is that! Simply put you ought to stand trial for what you did and who you were at that moment in time!
This convicted serial killer was once a small helpless child therefore he's innocent
"A ginger mint". Give me a break. Rudy never had an opportunity to reveal the evidence he discovered. Trump was only asking for votes that were switched by these two women. Now, these women (mother and daughter, yeah right) have Giuliani's financial legacy. They stole the election and were awarded literal millions.
Yes! That's exactly why there's so much focus on mental state, temporary insanity, premeditation, etc- who you once were doesn't mean shit. Who you were when you did the crime is the important part!
In defense of the lawyer, he is required to do his best to represent his client and I would rather him throw the book and try everything as horrible as that might sound, than let Giuliani get away with it by arguing ineffective counsel.
Good news, at least one jury did agree with you
For the rich in America, bankruptcy means “you keep all your belongings, your money, your lifestyle and the bill goes away”
I’m happy those ladies have seen at least a gesture toward justice
Freeman and Moss don’t deserve any of the harassment or abuse they have received because of Trump’s henchmen, but these two women ended up being heroes. They stood up to overwhelmingly intimidating power and didn’t back down. I’m glad that at least some form of justice is being dealt and hopefully they actually get some kind of recompense out of this.
Of course they didn't deserve threats and harassment. Those things are illegal, even if it were true what Giuliani had said. They don't, however, deserve a bunch of money from Guiliani. It's not right to hold him responsible for the criminal acts of others. We need to hold people responsible for their own actions only! Make the people harassing and threatening pay, if anyone is to pay. Simple logic.
Hmm, so if i tell someone to murder you, only the murderer is to be held accountable?
"A ginger mint". Give me a break. Rudy never had an opportunity to reveal the evidence he discovered. Trump was only asking for votes that were switched by these two women. Now, these women (mother and daughter, yeah right) have Giuliani's financial legacy. They stole the election and were awarded literal millions.
@@mattolivier1835 Simone logic? No, not even close. Rudolph the Wine-Nosed Reindeer didn’t have a gun to his head when he repeatedly defamed Moss and Freeman. He ginned up racist sentiments and purposefully tried to ruin their lives for political gain. Just because there are even bigger fish to fry doesn’t make him somehow absolved of responsibility. This isn’t an either/or situation, everyone involved should be taken to task. The guys putting Giuliana up to it, Giuliani himself, and the creeps or they’re listening to him and harassing people should be heals to account.
@@mattolivier1835 Faulty logic.
Giuliani KNOWINGLY spread lies and KNOWINGLY both defamed and Libelled these women.
He's a Lawyer, or at least was. He knows the law.
I don't understand how Guiliani got away for so long with not disclosing his finances. Why wasn't he found in contempt and jailed? I feel like any of us would have been in serious trouble for blatently ignoring a judge's orders.
And you would be right!
Gotta love it.
My understanding is that jail is extremely rare for contempt in civil cases. The court could force him to pay fines for contempt, though.
@@thexalonalso Rudy is above you and me,his class never sees prision
@@Nzg41 Martha Stewart would disagree.
TLDR: if you refuse to comply with discovery, you're basically handing the court a blank check.
These people already have a thankless task which they do with integrity and dignity. To target them like this, knowing full well they're innocent and that it will result in massive physical danger to them and their families, indicates a pathology close to psychopathy.
Same thing with teachers. What's with Republicans and attacking underpaid, diligent government workers
it's not like a slip of the tongue cost him for the rest of his life, he did it over and over again, asked for evidence in interviews, and always doubled down. also, he's a lawyer so he should know what defamation. he deserves it. only sad thing is someone else who deserves it isn't facing the same music.
yet
Right on
Different tunes for Nazis and Fascists.
@Growup1163 I don't think he wanted to show the "evidence".
@@scheriel6434 - Why would he not want to show the evidence?
god i just want to give these two women a hug. i feel so bad for them. this whole fiasco was disgusting
Are they also suing Newsmax? They absolutely should be compensated by the media that spread these lies about them.
And we'll still have people blaming this women for something that never happened.
Of all these insane cases surrounding this nonsense, I find this one particularly upsetting. These women were serving their country. They're patriots, IMO, just normal people doing their best, and this is how they're thanked. It's revolting. I hope a second judgment is passed for his continued defamation and they get more money. I hope they're set to live comfortably for life.
Yea rigging an election is totally patriotic 😂
Not only that, but the votes had been recounted 3 times by different people. Basic 10 year old logic would tell anyone that it would be impossible for 2 people to tamper with the count all 3 times when they weren't even there.
They didn't rig an election tho. @@kitchenbriks3685
Rich people: does bad things because they're rich
Courts: you gotta pay for that now
Rich people: "b-b-b-b-b-but i can't. I has no more moneys. I'll go bankrupt"
Hi fellow ace!
Usually because they don't have any actual liquid assets, but rather stuff like stocks, property or even more intangible things like a brand name that are claimed to have value. And whether the actual worth of those things is overvalued is a whole other cage of rats in itself.
@@NorthStarBlue1yup. they can squirrel it around all over the place.
They never pay for shit ever.
Imagine loving Trump or any politician enough to threaten a stranger. Those citizen's arrest shouldvhave generated some attempted kidnapping charges
This is not love. This is an epidemic of sociopathy, narcissism, and other forms of inhumanity. People using each other for personal gain or as an excuse to commit violence they've wanted to commit for a long time. It is the opposite of love. They don't care one bit about each other, only themselves.
Colorado case.
They would have in my country. A citizens arrest can be turned around on the arrestor if the target is not convicted with a crime that carries a maximum sentence over a year, in that case they become liable for false arrest charges and/or civil damages.
Honestly the only reason they didn't generate a coroners report with the words "justified homicide" on it, is the mother was an elderly lady who was scared and unarmed. This is one of the most clear cut cases of castle doctrine been very much applicable.
Why I do my best to fanboy for nobody and no organization.
I just can't get over the fact that Rudy was one of the most beloved and respected political figures in the country's history only to become almost universally ridiculed and despised.
Beloved?
@@DanielBohnen He was "America's Mayor" who rallied the country together after the 9/11 attacks. If he knew what was good for him he'd have retired from politics and just said "never forget" every time September came around.
He could have retired twenty years ago and lived out the rest of his life known and respected for happening to be mayor of NYC on 9/11.
Yea despised by the left, which used the courts in a far left city to bankrupt him. This too will backfire just as the persecution of Trump has.
Someday soon these corrupt judges and politicians will receive the same treatment when they lose power. Don t want to hear one word about it being wrong either
that cameo is never going to get old
Man really went double-or-nothing after the defamation case and was surprised when the coin came up "Nothing".
Feels more like:
"It landed on double!"
"YESSS!!"
"Double your FINES"
"NOOOOO!!!!"
This implies there was at least a *chance* for it to go well for him
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving person.
Except maybe Trump
Disagreed. The Orange One deserves it way more. But Rudy certainly deserves it. :D
You have no idea about what the guy has done do you. He’s done good he’s done bad he’s got what was coming to him here a bit much imo but not my choice to make. Point is we all aren’t perfect sad to see the state of humanity.
@@michaelwoods7770This is like, a negative thought. You used a lot of words to effectively day absolutely nothing at all.
@@YEs69th420 *say.
He *made* her a public figure, he should not be able to get out of any hooks based on that!
It's very generous of you to work to help an unemployed man find work in this holiday season, especially someone who's in such dire financial straits. I think we can all learn a lot from the stellar example you've set.
He didn't do anything wrong. He did EVERYTHING wrong.
Not gonna lie, you had me at the first half 😂😂😂😂
He gets points for consistency.
Giuliani is the DarkSydePhil of politics.. ''I did nothing wrong, i did everything correct''
Nice gramatical nitpick - I may well steal that when the opportunity arises.
"A ginger mint". Give me a break. Rudy never had an opportunity to reveal the evidence he discovered. Trump was only asking for votes that were switched by these two women. Now, these women (mother and daughter, yeah right) have Giuliani's financial legacy. They stole the election and were awarded literal millions.
As abhorrent as the lies that have come from that period are, I feel more for the two women whose lives were turned upside down. Even after this, their lives will never ever be the same.
So crazy. And they know the courts take so long to get everything filed and go through the process they do it on purpose just to wait and see…
Very sad.
How did Rudy end up like this?
He was set for life, and he bankrupted himself for a criminal
It takes a special kind of defendant to repeat defamatory claims ON THE STEPS OF THE COURTHOUSE THAT IS DECIDING YOUR FATE FOR DEFAMATION, especially after you have already been found liable.
No one ever accused Rudy of being Mensa material.
I was baffled that his lawyer didn't do one of those linebacker tackles from offscreen. STFU, Rudy! whaareyadoing!
@@seethlaemmert5175 The lawyer is quickly calculating his chance he'll get any money out of the next law suit
he wasnt found liable. he declared he was liable in a court document. thats why it went straight to determining how much he owed the victims.
@@seethlaemmert5175 Frankly, I'm amazed doing that doesn't immediately result in default imprisonment, on top of damages owed. If you've just proven you cannot be controlled even by being found guilty, you NEED to be forcibly removed from society so you can't hurt anyone anymore. Rudy should have been arrested on the spot and summarily remanded into state custody for saying that immediately after his trial.
This feels like I’m watching an overpass slowly collapsing, falling over piece by piece.
Or like dominoes on ⅒th speed.
Rudy's lawyer: Look he's too stupid to talk as a witness.
This is amazing!! Congrats and sending love from Brazil! 🇧🇷
It's amazing that someone can be 'broke' but still traveling by private jet. My guess that he will continue to live better than most solvent average people.
Im gonna be honest with you, i never knew why everybody had a good view of Rudy Giulani before all the Trump shit. The only thing that got him his reputation was he was the mayor of New York when 9/11 happened, despite the fact that I've only ever heard him described as an awful mayor by the people of New York.
His approval numbers were actually way down just before 911. The police had too much of a free hand, were flat out killing people and not getting any consequence.
Yep. Third or fourth Worst mayor ever repetitively elected in a fair vote.
Conservatives and Big Business liked him for "cleaning up" NYC - really, arresting/harrassing homeless people if they get too close to the money or the tourists without actually doing anything to relieve homelessness as an issue - helping to gentrify everything and so pricing out millions of working class and retirees, Disneyfying Times Square, and making NYC like less of the cesspool the Red States like to claim it is, when really all he did was smear the problem around, made it less noticeable, made the city more attractive for the ultra-rich (who never actually left), at great cost to the most vulnerable.
Aside from that, Broken Windows policing, stop and frisk, making justifications for the police harrassing and arresting anyone of color for the tiniest perceived infractions, supposedly to prevent them from getting ideas about doing bigger crimes (again, without doing anything to relieve the kinds of social pressures that could lead poor, young, frustrated people to commit crimes to begin with). Rich white people, and many poor white people, love that kinda stuff. Anybody that makes the "wrong" kind of people miserable in the most diverse city in the nation was seen as restoring law and order, making the city safe for business and tourism. He was turning NYC into a police state before 9/11, but that gave him all the excuse he needed to double down.
He was a public prosecutor in New York when they were going after several high-profile people and groups. I can't comment on how important he was to the investigations and convictions, but he was the face of them.
It's probably telling that his most famous contribution is the Perp Walk, publically embarrassing and strong arming people before any conviction occurred.
Don't know where you heard that one from because I directly grew up right across NYC and I've heard nothing but praise considering all the chaos and mayhem of the 1970s and the 1980s
Wow. I am sure it has happened before, but this is the first high-profile case I remember where the defence lawyer threw killer shade on his client to mitigate the damages.
I don't know exactly why, but the "...and $30,000 for an unpaid phone bill." just utterly cracked me up. I have no idea why I found that ridiculously funny, but it was a good and well-needed laugh. Thank you!
Ahhh yes. The find out stage of stupidly committing civil offenses
Exactly. F around and find out.
@@fanofjohnmellencamp And that saying's cousin 'Play stupid games, win stupid prizes'.
Shouldn't be a shocker to Rudy, he knows lots about cousins.
@@matohibiki, I have an even better one, from the 1966 unintentionally comedic movie _The Oscar_ (said by the character Hymie Kelly [Tony Bennett in his only acting role]), 'You lie down with pigs, you end up smelling like garbage!'
It was a choice between losing civilly or losing criminally.
Hopefully, they can still lock him up nonetheless.
@@Neville60001 for he has sown the wind, and he shall reap the whirlwind
Geez, paying the guy to record a video saying "I admire good lawyers" must be the lawyer version of dangling a dollar over his head and saying "Dance monkey, dance."
Basically this, yea.
And I think it's hillarious.
Should have gone with: “I admire barely competent lawyers.”
(Not a dig at LegalEagle, would have just been more humiliating)
Merry Christmas Legal Eagle and very good video.
For New Yorkers, we have been waiting 22 years for this moment
If Trump held a fundraiser for Rudy then Trump probably kept all the money for himself.
No doubt
Yep, the headline would say something like 'Save America's Mayor' but the small print would say '99% of all the cash you send will go into Trump's bank account to spend how he wants'.
Trump is known for not paying people
I bet Trump charged Giuliani for the fundraiser...eating up anything they raised 😂😂
He did have a fundraiser for him. A couple months ago he hosted a 100k-per-plate dinner at one of his properties. No idea how much was raised or how much was handed over.
I just don’t get why people throw their life and money away defending someone they KNOW is in the wrong. We’ve completely lost the ability to say “I was wrong” in this day and age.
In this day and age? It's been like that the whole damn time lol
Because liars triumph in our era. All he needs to do is shrug his shoulders and say “me no knoooow 🤷♂️🤷♂️” and his corrupt buddies in the courts will take care of him, down to in a few months when Giuliani refuses to pay the victims.
“Oops, I didn’t pay? Me no know 🤷♂️”
$$$$!
belief that will come out on top. Hatred or fear of changing course. And just refusing to woops i was wrong.
because they have more skeletons to hide than you know of.
I will never understand the defense that she was a “public figure” when she wasn’t before he defamed her in the public eye.
He needs to be either forced to pay that money or not allowed to live in anything other than a van/cheap tent and NOT allowed to ride around in a limo while also having access to a private jet where he often flies to exotic locations with luxury hotels. He should also be barred from any access to meals worth more than the cheapest fast-food menu in the poorest state.
I honestly have no idea what the point of the justice system even is, if perpetrators are able to not comply with discovery, and then attempt to magic wand away damages they owe to their victims?
There's a two tier system of justice in the US. I promise, if a normal person tried any of this, they'd get the book thrown at them and then some. It's wild.
Not sure what your point is. He did face the consequences of not complying with discovery and he didn't succeed to magic wand away any damages. The point of the justice system is to hold people accountable and he was certainly held accountable here
@@neelsg I'm not sure what most people define as being "held accountable", but for me it doesn't mean immediately doubling-down *outside the courthouse* the second you lose, and then also declaring bankruptcy in an attempt to get the damages forgiven/removed.
Held accountable for refusing to participate in discovery: Like Jones, Giuliani got a default judgment issued against him. The trial then became not *if* he had to pay, but *how* *much* it would be.
Held accountable for defamation: $148 million dollars. The fact that he exited the courthouse and immediately doubled down means he's torpedoed any potential appeals.
Bankruptcy: There are already measures being taken to freeze his accounts and place liens against his properties. Also, money owed in legal settlements are not automatically waived or reduced by bankruptcy, and once again his doubling down will bite him here.
@@neelsg keep telling yourself that. He walked out of the court house and continued the defamation.
At the the end of the day, Rudy is going to do exactly Alex Jones has done, hide his money, delay paying with frivolous appeals and make them pick up more legal expenses trying to force him to actually pay.
How is it possible to owe $30k for a phone bill?!? Did he somehow still have long-distance rates? Did he make hundreds of international calls? How is this possible?! Why didn't the phone company cut off his service?? This is the most surprising part of the story.
The company knows who the client is and that he does have the money to pay that bill (or, well, *had*), so letting him rack up a larger debt could be more profitable long-term due to late payment fees, once they actually threaten to sue just to collect it at some later date. At least that's what I assume the idea is.
Roaming fees.
They're f'ing outrageous.
There are some third party services which can be added to your phone bill.
it almost wouldn't suprise me if Trump has a charge per minute system on his phone and that is where the bill came from
Maybe it's data fees on an old plan he forgot to update as he traveled the country accessing online video content .
Thank for a great and interesting video!
So he owns multiple properties, but has no way to pay his debts. I thought property was something that could be sold. He just has to live within his means for once. Move into a shabby studio apartment with the bare necessity furniture and cut coupons. Sell off anything that can't fit into the place. Poof! Money. Let him live like the majority of us. He's 75 years old. Well he can learn why seniors struggle so much then. Maybe let him move into a senior apartment complex. The neighbors can harass the man who's decisions made their life hard. Karma
Really, who would believe that his life is in real danger by an arthritic person who moves .25 miles an hour, wearing diabetic socks, and needs a catheter? Who would take that call seriously?
Guess what bankruptcy won't get you out of? Student loan debt. Funny how that works.
In Scotland, where I live, university is completely free- they even give you money to attend...
@@RichardPierpoint-di8fi You live in a more enlightened society. Here, we prefer our population ignorant, afraid, and easily manipulated.
Loved Rudy’s cameo in Borat Subsequent Moviefilm where he shows just how morally bereft he is. Every dollar of his judgement that doesn’t get paid to the plaintiffs, for whatever reason, bankruptcy or otherwise, should cost him a day in jail. Now THAT would be justice!
Even at one minute in jail per dollar, the $148 million would net him over 280 years in jail!
Just to be a wet blanket: we _really don't want_ a society in which we have "Debtors' Prisons." Because realistically Giuliani would never serve a day, and instead the prisons would be overrun with people of color issued selectively prosecuted speeding tickets.
I don't know. Consider that for Christmas he's given his son his permanent residence in a room at the son's home. And also his gift to the poor grandchildren, who'll have to hear over and over about the 'bad men' who ruined grandpa's life until they hit puberty and can avoid 'drunk grandpa' There's a sort of poetic justice there don't you think?😀
He has vampire DNA. He would be able to serve out the time. 😂
I didn't believe that the scene wasn't scripted for someone in power like him but now seeing his gimmicks I think it wasn't
"Remember that he saved the city on 9/11." Not relevant. Previous charity or good work, no matter how significant, does not absolve you from future crimes. Or, as a certain pastor I know more eloquently put it, there is no such thing as an advance payment to buy your way out of hell.
You should look up the concept of plenary indulgences.
Ever seen that movie “The Super” with Joe Pesci?
They should let him live as a homeless person in an open bay shelter house in NYC for a few years as community service. He can volunteer as a soup kitchen as the ‘Mayor of the Ladle’ (with a curfew, mandatory drug and alcohol classes, and job fair workshops)… 😊
The best part is how the bankruptcy reported at least 10 million dollars in assets, and it appears that the judge will rule similarly to Alex Jones. No Bankruptcy on this court ruling. So get to digging and find the hidden assets after you force the sale and liquidate the assets to pay the IRS and these innocent women.
This is like America has beaten the mini-boss in this whole mess. You get some satisfaction, but the final boss is still to come.
How many mini-bosses are there in this game? I feel like I can name at least two dozen…
I don't recall the boss in the 1st Lara Croft movie being orange.... He did have a lot of simian followers, though.
I feel so lucky to live in a time that has publicly available information about the law like this that is so easy to watch. I've never cared so much about the law. I'm realizing that the law IS America and the best parts are made by people who truly value the law and want our constitution to be air tight with ethics and logic. That's the goal and THATS why philosophy and poli sci are so important. I'm genuinely learning so much. If you see this, Thank you so much! 😋