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- StarCraft 2 Tournament - Clem vs Reynor - ESL SC2 Cup Finals - Terran vs Zerg - Clem takes on Reynor in a stunning display of top tier StarCraft 2 micro in this Terran vs Zerg finals!
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"terran's would rather get a job at costco where they can scan repeatedly than get a raven" lmao
Watching how fast Clem and Reynor are, and how much more consistent they've both become... I'm even more bewildered as to how Serral has a decent winning record against _both_ of them. 💀
Serral just always seems to make the perfect move. Which is insane
i'm thinking serral is more able to see the long term strategy than clem or reynor. Clem relies on balance/widow mine abuse and micro for most of his games. After his 3 base marine/mine/medivac push, he doesn't really keep a longer term strategy. Just expo and keep attacking. Reynor is solid overall but still lacks long term strategy. Serral seems to know where the weaknesses of the opponent are in late game and exploits them.
He is innovative and takes map control and the way Clem uses mines, he burrows banes and keeps you on your back foot. Clem magically figured out this year that constant multi pronged pressure and denying economy while keeping your opponent guessing is the key. Hes the new macro and micro Jackson.
Serral is the Zerg version. I’d love to see Clem play Zerg. Those units, my god. He’d murder Serral if he got a good year as Zerg only
@@thedeadbabynot true as evidenced by the iron bank and constant macro in all 3 games, but namely the final one.
He’s serral as a Terran. He just sweeped arguably the best in the world behind Serral and the man who beat him at Katowicza (spelling I know) a year ago or so.
Imagine Clem switching to Zerg. My god
in the fight around 50:00 what Clem was actually doing with the Command Centers was creating chokepoints to force the Zerg army through so that Reynor couldn't use the Ultralisks for anything meaningful. Brilliant.
They created lots of space to snipe the ultras.
Reynor understandably didn't even want to commit them in there.
Thanks for the cast. I find your comments hilarious and unique, making a difference vs. other casters. Excellent job.
Here is an idea for you: specific names for groups of units expanding on common knowledge. From a platoon of marines and a fleet of phoenixes, we could have an HOA of queens, a conclave of lurkers, a gang of reapers, a cell of dark templars and so on. I hope you find it useful!
Sounds fun
A conference of Templar
A flock of mutas
The secret society of ghosts
Sometimes Zerg players decide "I don't really wanna win this game, why not try some mutas?"
Or Ultras, or Broodlords, or anything other than suiciding my units and hoping the splash damage saves the day. Yet the key suiciding unit has been repeatedly nerfed until Zerg feels like throwing expensive water balloons at the enemy.
never played a single minute of this game in my life, somehow been watching sc2 for lunch time for about 4 years now
Man those widow mines hits on the first game really were something else
I know you. I used to watch you
Felt like every hit was like 8 or 10 kills.
7:45, Somebody is getting punched when that man gets back in the Medivac.
They put that whole “No Marine left behind” to the test.
He's gonna have some nightmares about this 🤣
@@30anvz28 And one of his buddies tried to pull that whole, "They'll expect one of us in the wreckage brother.", but he was like, "Not today bitch!".
Jimmy is being uncommonly competent keeping up with the likes count.
Clem relentless style of play makes it the most fun matches. Perfecting the Bomber infinite marine push.
idk it just makes them boring after the first 5 minutes when something can actually happen. Afterwards it's just clem slowly grinding through whoever is opposing him and not at any point they have a chance to come back.
I suck at Starcraft, and somehow Clem makes it look so simple I find myself feeling like I could take on Reynor. 😂
Reynor thought he was ok, until the Scandinavia of vikings arrived...
Haha yes.
Just like Serral, Clem making his race feel broken.
Only that Terran is actually broken.
Mules, Mines, Ghosts, Scans, these are all cheats.
@@OnigoroshiZero skill issue. Mines are fine, Zerg not named Dark and Serral are just dumb.
@@OnigoroshiZero queens, banes, vipers, infestors, lurkers, larva, creep all of that is broken
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons Nah, mines are broken - hence the nerf
@@OnigoroshiZero terran is so disgutingly broken watching this as toss i feel sorry for zerg. Bio mine is so nasty, and the only answer infestors got nerfed. Terrans are so braindead they cant build a raven out of their 3rd starport so they nerf zerg instead.
I will never get bored of seeing Clem thrash Reynor.
you mean enjoy watching T abuse their imba advantages?
@@medejae Zerg players and crying about balance name a more iconic duo
You're the least skilled of all 3 races by far, if Terran or Toss ever get anything that stops you from F2 + A move you throw tantrums until it gets nerfed.
The only Zerg players with an IQ above 85 are Serral, Rogue and NesTea. Dark doesn't count he's a lunatic.
wow let's ignore that jerk 😆 Must have had too much coolaid.
Clem is incredibly skilled and it's a pleasure to see him play. He really makes Terran look OP. At their level prbly even tiny changes could shift the balances so you gotta be really careful what you would propose change. Personally I'd love giving Infestors some water balloons, they have got to be the least user friendly unit in the game.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons Come now... Do you seriously expect Zerg players to tolerate not having overwhelming and broken advantages before calling the game fair?
They're so used to the silver spoon that anything else feels like torture to them.
@@OzixiThrill You're right Ling/Bane wasn't borderline unstoppable for 16 years and they still threw a fit when it FINALLY got nerfed lmao
The best caster in all of the world
If he covered a more main stream game for example league of legends , he would be among the top dogs of youtube, this man is insane at what he does
True. He's so funny, so creative, he's made so many top memes, the whole production is just amazing
Unfortunately his voice isn't great.
I use to hate watching these games where Terran seems unstoppable. Thanks to Serral, now I know it's possible. Unfortunately, I now only want to watch games with Serral vs high level players.
Not liking and subscribing is widely considered in many cultures to be a dick move
lol
2:34 Hahhaha commentary so on point as always Winter! 8:22 HAHAHAHHAHA Exactly my thoughts, your reaction! 36:41 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
I don't get tired of saying it, but wow the creativity that you have on your comments it's spot on!! The penta M's hahahaha, love it!.
I love when Protoss go for cannon rush, winter puts the meme of the dog behind a PC on screen with the Protoss sign lol
i really wonder how diffrent the terran gameplay would be if scan wouldn't reveal clocked/burrowed units
31:25
SCV: “I’m off to rejoin my people.”
i love the inbetween match screens with all the memes, especially at @15:39
Keep balancing the game around the GOAT, and this is what you get, a race broken beyond all measure that no one except the GOAT can beat.
Wow, Clem just getting better and better
I "love" the comments from either side (terran or zerg) arguing that either this or that is broken... And I am 100% sure (minus epsilon) that all such commenters are light years away from having even 10% of the skills of these two.
I just enjoy watching the games, and getting insights from insightful commentary. I don't even dream of replicating what those two are doing, I'm happy enough that I can complete all four campaigns of the base game... In normal difficulty.
Really impressive brawling and eco stamina displayed by bith sides here. Very honorable play too no shadey underhanded shiet!
Yes!! Winter, AKA Summer... it's SC2, sipping coffee and sinking into the video.. Jimmy!!! I'm comfee, and my day is so much better!
3 body problem on Netflix is good.
I never read the books but did a deep dive into the lore on yt.
Super interesting sci-fi story
I'm just here for the changeling commentary.
As clems advances and already about to win versus reynor, winter : "we better call serral" 😅😅
"the queen is getting bullied, even more than usual by the frenchmen" good one, French approved xD
Loved the shoutout to my man GiantGrantGames at the end of game 3!
These 2 are inhuman. That right there's some o tge fiercest duelling I seen in a long time!
terran has broken the economy, and has been for a long time, but no one wants to talk about it
Congrats on 200k! Love your channel. Helps me relax at night before bed 🥰
An all time great changeling in this series.
oops terran looking OP better slightly nerf widowmines and buff bio upgrades
I still think it's way too costly to deal with marines. The value exchange is, at best, even. Nerfing the banelings only increased the OPness of marines
I love how late game terrans don't even pretend they don't have map hacks
Yea its like blizzard couldnt figure out how to stop cheaters and decided “you know what just give two of the races in game map hacks”
@@jackcaffrey8493 Mate, first 2 accounts in GM are cheaters. The in-game chat is full of racist propaganda. I get literal death threaths when beating obvious smurphs. Blizzard has 3 people working on the game, the company is a joke.
That Viking surprise ending the game was something else. I'd swear I heard "Flight of the Valkyries" playing faintly in the background.
Your UI is amazing
The changeling in game 2 😆
Brenda got too far off creep and caught a grenade to the face 1:25
51:00 loooool the workers
big gabe's picture being 'file size is too large' so funny 😅🤣
That subscribe noise scared the crap out of me.
I still think about that "Starcraft 2 will break before Clem's terran does" video title sometimes.
In honor of that changelings efforts 21:29, I dub him Jimmie. Or Gimmy? Or Jimmmy?
and this is why I say ghost needs it's auto attack massively nerfed. The fact a terran can mass mostly ghost and just run the field against a zerg goes to prove that. Zerglings and banlings should be able to shut ghosts down if there's not enough standard bio mixed in.
just brootal domination
Sigh. When will pros have a community balance patch to remove the Widow Mine entirely? One day with them in the game is one day too many.
Liberators sickest part of game 1 just amazing how they made the mutas cry
Marines, Mines, Marauders, Medevacs, Main Battle Tanks, Many Ghosts
Loving the continual saga of the Real Housewives of the Swarm 👍
That was my build in Bronze.
35:15 Comeon man I wanna see the supply depot being build
I love how Creator's title is the Destroyer of Worlds xD
Can you imaging if Terran can fly their building and crash it onto their opponent
I bet that would be a rash that beats lie 33% of people and it would require a very specific response
it's unbelievable how good these 2 are
"call me ahab" was definitely an underatted joke
Nice games, i dunno why Raynor refused to make any infestors 1st game tho
No gas, mootas are a huge gas sink
@@markthompson6139 yeah true, but 2 or 3 ? its 4 or 6 less mootas sure, but they could have done so much
Feels like i watch this game before. But i think it's fine to rewatch those game, 1 time cant make me better.
Did Clem break sc2 economy? Not really. Did balance team ruined zerg race? Definitely.
Terran OP
Not taking anything away from Clem's play, but I absolutely hate the state of the balance in this game right now. I thought the balance council would make it better, but it has gotten much worse.....
The most professional, Brenda and Karen, conversations on UA-cam.
Ahah you’r so funny a laught so hard when you talk like changeling game 2 😂
Ty for the Genius cast!
man reynor tried practically every trick except nydus or fake drops
CLEM MAH BOIIIIII
omg can we have ONE terrans game without a ducking banshee and mines
i think the ghosts should be nerfed. they are so broken. reducing their HPs a bit maybe as a start. Same feelings as Winter at 33:02
Tell that to Serral
@@elgar7252 Tell that to anyone but serral. And also tell that to 15+ ghost armies which are all over late game.
Yo sir your off the dome commentary is such a joy to listen to. You are absolutely insanely entertaining to watch. Thank you very much for what you do 🙆♂️🥰
This is so frustrating to watch. Wth is a zerg to do? For every banelig I make, another relative sue.
Day9 collab? He has some SC2 commentary planned next month
You know, I've never seen anyone throw caustic biles, then abduct a medivac into the spray. That would be cool.
definitely works very well, but this technique with mines is boring as hell ...
Is there a battlecard for uthermal? I am curious about his nickname, silly goose maybe just like he sometimes likes to call himself?
That was a slaughter
Seems likes terrans have chosen their champion to go up against Serral
21:27 lmao
My brother in christ the video title was fine the first time
has anyone ever complained about the OC's scan radius being too big? I find it way too big.
Widow mines need to be nerfed too. No more air attack. or no air splash.
é um absurdo o que esse 2 jogaram nesse primeiro jogo!
wow... how many Orbitals did Clem build. Like 25? it's actually brilliant, once Terra hit 200 supply there is no reason to have a bank. But Reynor just never build Nydus. never attacked Clem. Dark is always building Nydus all over the place and wins.
stfu. nydus won't do anything. T too broken with ghosts and mines and mules
That's truly an observation. Perhaps there's a reason dark games are always interesting, since he doesnt just fucking die after 6 minutes vs clem or other terrans
lol why does blizzard let the dude call himself “Reynor” I remember in the days of vanilla wow, you’d get your character name locked for naming it after a blizzard ip.
i guess it's ok because the character is raynor with an a, i always wondered why zerg pro calls himself after a terran, maybe he was infested
What!? Another video! Yessss.
If you let Clem play at home, at these online tournaments, he is quite invincible against Zerg. ESL open cup, dreamhack SC2 Europe, world team league, you name it. I still remember the glorious days where Clem single handedly carried Team Liquid against the entire DKZ and Basilik line up, 2-0 Dark, 2-0 Hero, 2-0 Reynor, 2-0 Serral. But when it come to off-line tournaments, well.... its a bit of a different story where Serral basically creamed everyone.
It's because Clem can't do shit without having widow mines carry him. Most pathetic Terran player bar none.
@@yugonostalgia8961 weirdest comment ever
@@joshuabartlett3589 Huh? what's wierd is blizzard losing all their braincells and adding widow mines to the game
Anyways, I'd respect Clem if he could win a single series without relying on widow mines to do the work for him. Haven't seen one yet
@@yugonostalgia8961 so u want Blizzard to completely nerf Widow mines? And Blizzard the company responsible for SC2 is now brainless? I think you have some mental problems.
@@yugonostalgia8961 Or you are saying there is no counter to widow mines Blizzard did this on purpose. Its fanatical and weird your ideas
Wido Mines have too much hp. One shot for widow mine to take out a ravager. Two auto attacks for a Ravager to kill a "mine." Blizzard logic
m&m&m& marins meta mines =))) nice one dude
Imagine the drama? Sweaty palms, heart rates nearing early triple digits, me too
How cool if a changeling could get into a transport?
@@dizastro5437 that would be cool.
Especially if a changeling is made then both players have control of it because it would take local orders from Its platoon it's blending in with and then whatever the actual owner telepathically tells it to do
You nerfed terran? *Clem Laughs*, only serral can beat terran, and I am catching up! Its crazy how far Terrans are coming against all MU's even with the nerf they are steamrolling everyone in tournaments.
Just wait for the salts from zergs who will still say terran still op despite nerfs
This game was before the patch pretty sure winter said
Inb4 the compensation buffs are worth more than the widow mine nerfs.
It is from before patch. Mines after the patch have a bright red targeting line
@@Random-op5xl Sounds something like Idra would say. Remember that guy?
Even when Clem is sloppy he is Top Tier.
Clem will fall off so hard after the widow mine changes.
Reynor card should have Windfury
As much as i enjoy watching zerg matchups (from being a zerg main back in 2014 when i stopped playing ladder), i would love some more ZvZ or PvT matchups, as i am really curious how the meta looks there.
Also weird to see how much the tides shifted, with Zerg going from 6/8 pool and early agression, to them always taking the defensive role by spamming queens and defending their Area. I guess by now wall offs simply kill all early game agression?
They seem to lack really any units to do any pressure early (with the queen being like the only, al be it a pure defensive, option without any long time upgrades), zergling is fine and all, but pre speed a single reaper can basically box the zerg in their base solo.
They still do very aggressive builds on occasion, proxy hatch is viable at pro level, as are the occasional ling/roach/ravager rush or baneling bust. ZvZ is constant aggression. The meta is much more varied & interesting now for Zerg.
PvT is just sad, which is why it's not being casted as much here ig.
Don't mules get the same minerals from blue and gold?
I never understand, why every aoe damage of terran and protos like tanks, disruptors ect. damage friendly targets, but zergs aoe of baillings parasitics bombs or fungus never harm friendly target
zerg is just immune to those acids or whatever banelings explode into
Top base turrets are under-rated
9:50 Minecraft vs zerg? Xd
Yeah after the Terran buffs next patch Clem is going to win every zvt
Zerg... getting... buffs...?
Widow Mine nerf...?
Liberator nerf...?
...???
So you really gonna be lackin on my bro Jimmy like that?? Not cool, not cool at all!! At this point, he is part of the Team!