They killed Bond. I mean, as a lifelong fan that makes it impossible for me to enjoy or applaud. Just awful. I think even as a film it had a ton of flaws and plot holes. Thumbs down. Did I mention they killed James Bond. He blew up. He died in front of our eyes. Why would anyone want to see that? Glad the Craig era is over.
love the channel joe, but yeah, i hated the movie. hated the ending, didn't feel like a Bond movie througout. felt like a family melodrama. felt like Spectre 2. same old 'cuckoo' nonsense. i never believed Bond and Madeline's relationship. 90% of the time since spectre i couldn't even remember her name. after the last two movies i wish i could forget the Craig era. i think the Bond we grew up with is gone.
It’s such a relief to find other anti Graig Bond fans out there. It’s been a dreadful 15 years of fake Bond movies. They stripped Bond of everything that makes it a bond movie and made him a boring depressive. Bring back classic BOND
Even if this is its own universe, what is the point of a Bond movie where he doesnt win???? This movie was awful. James Bond will return...what a pointless thing to have at the end. Also all the nods to OHMSS, BAD. How dare they say the line and play the song. Lets face it, if this was done by a fan or something, everyone would be destroying this movie. Its very boring anyway, and the villain was so dry "we are the same" God, we have so many of those in Craigs era. This movie has some cool action and some good Bond moments, but they all end up being pointless. Who will rewatch this movie with any joy?
This was a fitting end to Craig's era. But it does have it's faults. I do hope the next iteration of the character dials down the pathos and grimness and highlights more of the adventure and humor (though not the cheesiness) of some of the earlier films. It's tough to get it just right.
@@trevorlee7945 100% agree Brosnan hit the perfect balance. Goldeneye was his best film, but I actually think his portrayal in TWINE was the best Bond portrayal we've ever gotten. He was truly ruthless/dangerous, yet he still had quips; all while being incredibly suave.
It WAS a fitting end for Craig's Bond because Craig's Bond is a big dumb brute who isn't smart enough to figure out that it's not necessary to sacrifice himself.
They've killed the franchise. Where do you go from here? Another re-boot? Say the next Bond is a different continuity? Go back to pre Craig continuity and just say forget the Craig Bonds ever happened? I just don't see how you continue the franchise without it seeming like a cheap cop out.
Didn’t like the gunbarrel and opening snow section. Overlong pre credit sequence. They should have moved the snow sequence to a flashback for Madeline in the Safin / Madeline psychiatrist scene. My favourite section was the Cuba section with Paloma. I really hated the ending. Up to the island section it was going fairly well, then the whole thing collapsed for me. Awful. By the way, I assume since the Mi6 staff have mourned Bond that these incarnations of those characters have to go too. Wasn’t ready to say goodbye to Fiennes, Harris, Whishaw and Kinnear too! By making the Craig films a continuous story with Casino Royale as him getting his 00 and then dying in his last film, this means that they can now kill Bond again. They've set a precedent now, and I'm not happy with it. Neither is my partner who is a massive Bond fan too.
I hadn't thought of that, the precedent of killing Bond again. Ugh. Maybe they won't though if they have the attitude that Bond dying was only something the precious Daniel Craig gets to do.
I am very surprised how accepting the Bond podcasters/youtubers are over this. Strongly disliked it and certainly isn’t the Bond film I wanted (maybe even needed) in 2021. i don’t hold much hope for the future either with Amazon ownership as I think now with a blank slate they’ll poop content out like Disney do (the MCU has a lot to answer for). It may be a long while before the 50th box set gets touched again.
One of my favorite birthday presents was a friend (who I lost a few years ago) giving me every Bond movie on DVD. So, this fangirl agrees. I'm livid about this so called "arc." As I've said, they didnt kill off Connery in Never Say Never Again, which was his swan song as Bond. He kissed Kim Basinger, broke the 4th wall and winked at the audience. Kinda like riding off into the sunset, which was perfect.
@@Bugster987 What are the things that you don't like about it? You can't just say that you're allowed to hate on it if you can't give good points as to why the Craig era must be hated.
God, I hated this movie so much. I completely disagree that this movie was Fleming-esque. I reckon Fleming would be turning in his grave with how ridiculous the plots have gotten. The nanabots stuff was SOO bad. I feel like the Craig era has been on a downward trajectory since Casino (masterpiece) with one other high point (Skyfall). By the end of this film I was honestly quite happy that he died because I was so tired of Daniel Craig as Bond, made me miss Brosnan which is saying something. I thought there were so many cheap plot points in this movie to try to force emotion into it: the daughter, his death, and the references to OHMSS (don’t ride on the coat tails of a brilliant film). They all ended up falling flat for me. Had to watch Living Daylights today as a palate cleanser.
I'm not here to try and convince anyone of anything or argue with anybody just to share options with the community. That being said I hated this film, just didn't feel like a Bond film to me, Craig's acting felt off, the way people treat Bond was jarring, it was like a middle finger to the character. I could go on but I don't want to sound too negative for those of you who liked it I'm happy for you.
I agree, thought it wasn't a great film really. 5/10 or low 6 at best. Bond is treated in a dismissive manner by almost all the characters involved minus Felix and the fanboi. I don't think women should always throw themselves at him, and it's ok to reject unwanted advances (since I guess that's what we need to highlight in the world now) BUT! He is a commander and has always been a highly respected character among his peers and other agents. He gets the job done after all, he just felt like a lil' bitch in this movie lol. Everyone was against him or had an issue with him, which leads me to believe this was shoehorned in so that the character could be punished for his prior sexist ways. My other main issue is the plot, the script is very, VERY lazy. I don't know how others can't see that. The whole thing of connecting all the characters is classic lazy writing and more inline with the rubbish and dumbed down Marvel universe movies. Newsflash folks - we don't want that in a Bond film. Script just reeks of lazy writing and trying to connect characters that really didn't have to be connected. Sometimes it just doesn't work trying to constantly link everything together, because you simply can't. It comes off contrived and pretty lazy I thought. No chemistry between him and Madeline either. Safin has no real purpose, all he does is talk as well at length. Quite a few problems with this film really. Disappointed.
@@yeeeha5674 I agree with you completely, I could go on and on about what I didn't like, I completely forgot about how bad the villain was haha, at least the db5 scenes were good, that being said The Living Daylights is my favourite Bond film and having the Volante back was cool but wasted.
Atticus & Chris your on point here. Craig's Bond was pushed around by women most of picture. Proper retitle, Just Waiting To Die. Because Adventures In Baby Sitting is taken we're going to have to go with "Family Bonding: The Accidental Dad". The script if you could call it that seemed to be writers picking up plot gimmicks off the table and then trying to write a story around them. Any one know why Bond had to put his Gal on a train to no where? Apparently half a Jason mask doesn't age in this comic book to film version. Small thanks to writers for not making Bonds getaway vehicle a soccer Mom's mini van. Yes the girl is adorable but you know full well she was supposed to be dropped off at Disney Studios and you kept her, at least it was a "G" rated picture.Can any one name the video game they stole the action scene where you get ambushed by 50 motorcycles and 3 dozen cars coming at you out of the woods? Franchise, if you wanted to make the new "00" instantly annoying with the recycled 007 gag you did. Bond submitting to psycho was gross. Thank you Aston Martin awesome. Stunt department some good work as well. Having said that one could have watched the ever expanding trailer and have had a far more pleasant experience. Your own imagination of what you think might happen would far exceed what we paid for on film. No doubt, with ample opportunity in the car or hotel room these writers couldn't write adult dialog between a man and women to save themselves, and so they didn't. Older Bond film goers will remember the films to mirror society during the cold War with Russian U.K./U.S.A. interplay. The reason we get all this sci-fi, comic book trash is it all has to get by or pass the Chinese Communist Party sensors. If they were independent and pro U.K./U.S.A. the next picture would take place with Bond trying to help save Taiwan from invasion and vanquish the Chinese. I seriously doubt they'd be willing to forfeit the box office returns from China. They could go retro to post WW2, safe not unlike what PBS does. Final note, thought it was the woke crowd that killed off Bond with their aversion to toxic masculinity. Apparently it was Craig himself as a condition of his return. Ashame he thought so little of this fan base, many of whom are twice his age and carried real guns in the line of duty to state and country. Where was Bond's Royal Navy fly-by jet with balloon and tether cord, harness that snatched Connery's Bond off the ground from certain death. The franchise has made 6.89 billion, killing Bond sound like a prudent business model? Then again maybe everybody is too old, too rich to care, fans be damned. Some where perhaps Walt Disney and Ian Fleming are standing around having a chat, Walt says to Ian, "What the hell happened to our creations?"
As a huge 007 fan, I've never come out of a cinema so depressed and disappointed, and not just due to that ending, which basically feels disheartening to die hard fans like me. The script was a mess, and felt like a soap opera most of the tilm. Even the action wasn't all that thilling, which doesn't help when bond has hi young daughter in the same vehicle. Oh, what was the writers thinking. But i'm right if you think about it. Because it's daniels last film, they thought, let's kill off all SPECTRE agents, and so they do it in one scene to have it done and dusted. What a cheap way to do it. Oh, then let's kill felix, blofelt and bond seen as it's his last movie. Felt so forced and unnecessary. My worst bond film ever and will never waste another minute on this film. Happy for those who get something out of it, but if you really think about it, aside from all plot holes and issues, the film wasn't worth the wait was it ?
---> Can anyone imagine what this movie would have been like and the BILLIONS of dollars it would have made at the box-office around the world, if it ended like this: 1) Bond arrives at the island, 2) Bond kills all the bad guys, 3) Bond saves Madeleine and his daughter Mathilde, 4) Bond and family get a lift from the British Navy ship BEFORE the missiles are sent off to destroy Safin's island, 5) "M" is taken away in handcuffs to Her Majesty's Prison for 100 years for developing a deadly virus through ILLEGAL "gain of function" bio-engineering in downtown London, 6) and they are all seen driving away together in the Aston Martin DB5 into the sunset with Madeleine saying to her young daughter, "Let me properly introduce you to your father. This is Bond,,, James Bond." But now... in the depths of this KOVID KATASTROPHY they just HAD to KILL JAMES BOND. What disgusting GHOULS these producers are !
Yea I was ok with them killing Bond because: 1.) Broccoli and Wilson have been giving the finger to the "Classic Bond Formula" for 15 years, so why would they break tradition now (and "Bond Fans" have supported this BS for some reason) 2.) They have made all his stories linked together so they had to end it in some fashion. And with the bad script writing and lack of creativity we've gotten the past 15 years you could already guess something like "Let's kill Bond" was seriously on the table (As he said Scott had mentioned) and finally 3.) It was Craig's final outing as Bond but I NEVER viewed him as Bond anyway, so him getting blown up was symbolically much needed closure. In this film though Craig FINALLY acted like James Bond and NOT James Bourne, so I liked the film mostly because of that.... I finally felt like I was watching James Bond in a movie so this being the character the era is ending with is fine. Now who or whatever comes next will take this REAL portrayal James Bond the character and go from there.
We were all waiting for your review! While good, I’m very surprised by it! It was a better than average action flick, any interesting chick flick but NOT a Bond movie!!! The producers & Craig betrayed Bond and the fans! Goodbye Daniel & good riddance!
"They betrayed the fans." I could not agree more. You said it. How could they do that and not think it would upset every single fan? A happy ending is too much to ask? For Bond after all he's done? For us?!
I do not buy into the idea that the 5 Daniel Craig Bond films can be seen as a satisfying overarching story or "mini-series". Rather, I sense that the notion that these 5 films form a coherent whole in a narrative sense has arisen to justify some of the story choices that were made in this film - i.e. an exercise in post-hoc justification. If it were the case that the 5 films were intended as a coherent whole, then it was IMO poorly conceived and executed. A few points for why I think this is the case: (1) The first two films form a connected story which featured a Bond who is essentially a rookie. Then suddenly, at the the start of Skyfall, we see Bond as a washed-up hack who is suggested to be too old and bitter for the role of 007. What happened to the the missing years of service that connect QoS with Skyfall? You could suggest that those years were filled with the actions that occurred in such movies as Dr No, From Russia with Love, Thunderball, etc, but then that cuts across the idea that Craig's Bond been seen as its own unique continuity. (2) The end of Spectre clearly suggest an ending where Bond has "got the girl, vanquished the villain (Blofeld), and walks off into the sun" - and this should be no surprise as it was suggested that that film may have been Craig's last. However, the backlash over some of the story choices in this film led (IMO) to the producers second-guessing themselves and seeking a re-do which we now see in NTTD. (3) It seems to me that Spectre set up some really troubling continuity problems in the Craig films by suggesting that Blofeld and Spectre had been orchestrating the previous villains in the preceding 3 movies. Were there any suggestions or hints in those 3 movies of Spectre involvement? Personally, I found it really stretched credulity to think that there had been Spectre involvement all along - rather it seems like this was all cheap plot point (similar to making Bond and Blofeld brothers) to try to quickly give more gravitas and menace to Spectre and Blofeld. If you want an example of a film franchise successfully employing an overarching story over multiple film, look to the MCU films from Iron Man to Avengers: Endgame - this was conceived over years and with the connecting tropes planted in the end credits (and occasionally in the substantive plot) of each film leading to the last. If you want another example of a film franchise poorly conceiving and executing an overarching story, look no further than the recent Disney Star Wars sequel trilogy. Just as in this Bond film, the last in that Trilogy (The Rise of Skywalker) did what it did storywise to fix narrative mistakes in the preceding films. In the Rise of Skywalker, the film makers had to take the frankly ludicrous decision of resurrecting Emperor Palpatine (who had blown to smithereens in Return of the Jedi) to fix the egregious mistake of killing of Snoke, the villain that had been building up in the story until his abrupt death halfway through The Last Jedi.
While I agree with what you said, I will add that this is the prime reason why they did what they did in NTTD to make it a standalone 5 film story arc. They needed to close everything off and show the audience this interpretation of Craig's Bond is set within its own universe. All those bad writing choices and continuity issue they made over the years to connect all the Craig films made it clear that they needed to do it. By wiping the slate clean they can now get back to doing what they did for the first 40 years. Hence the customary James Bond will return in the credits. I would love to see the producers, Craig or the director come out and say something about it but I doubt they will due to the fact that the film is creating so much discussion within the community and that can only be a good thing. I think the risks they took in this entry work brilliantly. People hate change and to do something this bold is refreshing. It's by no means a perfect film and a few aspects could be polished but for what we are getting on the big screen, I'm okay with it. So many fans are overthinking this issue IMO. I just hope we don't have to wait another 6 years for the next one!
---> NEWS : "EON STUDIOS KILLS JAMES BOND" ---> Joe Darlington : "I loved this movie !" ---> Next Day : "BEING JAMES BOND" rebranded as "REMEMBERING BOND" and Joe Darlington loses 90% of his subscribers and web followers and suddenly has more leisure time. 😁
It doesn't work for the same reason Spectre didn't work. You have to believe that Bond would give everything up for this woman he has no chemistry with and whom he barely knows. I found the repeated OHMSS references really distasteful, like they were trying to piggyback on that film's success, and it just reminded me that Tracy was a much better character than Madeline.
About choking Blofeld. Bond’s world was destroyed many times with Vesper and then with Madeline. I feel like most men would lose their cool around the man responsible for doing that to them
Fleming never gave Bond a daughter. It's a quite awful film, time to move on...we have all the time in the world to make a proper James Bond film again, I can only hope.
I loved the movie for its place within the context of the Craig era, and I respect it for all the risks it took. While it has its flaws, NTTD is the most enjoyment I've got from a Bond film since Casino Royale, so as an emotional movie experience I loved it and I'm very excited to watch it again. That said, I do understand why many won't resonate with it, and I do think they need to course correct moving forward. I'd love to see them ditch the overarching story thing they were trying to go for, it didn't really add anything while taking away too much. Having a more human Bond worked really well, but I also want the fun elements of Bond back too. Bond is ultimately a fantasy spy adventure, I want to see more gadgets, more wild stunts, more crazy villains with maniacal schemes. I hope they find that sweet spot for the Bond franchise in the future.
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 yeh I agree with that, the Dalton/Craig portrayals are my favourite Bonds in terms of character - I want Bond to have that edge. I just want them to be balanced out with the right elements of the Bond formula, some of the Craig films, Quantum and Spectre specifically, felt like they were missing some of the fun that Bond movies should be having. NTTD brought it back to the right balance in that regard, with fun and thrilling action pieces that were simply a joy to watch.
@@JamesLynd I agree with Quantum, but you have to understand that this is still just the 2nd movie for Craig and the Bourne approach needs to be used as Bond was still a rough-around-the-edges kind of agent, also he was still grieving from Vesper's death that's why it is not applicable to insert "fun" elements on that movie. Have to disagree with Spectre, there's a right balance of fun and seriousness on that movie, but the 3rd act is problematic.
I was interested to hear your opinion on this movie. I've been a Bond fan from the Sean Connery era. I've pretty much enjoyed all of the incarnations, but (and I know you won't agree with me on this) I found the whole Daniel Craig era the least entertaining. I'd much more see the individual adventures than have everything stitched together in sequels. I thought all of the female characters in this film were excellent. I was somewhat apprehensive from the previews about the "new" 007, but I thought it was handled perfectly. Can't say enough good about Paloma, and thought the Madeline Swan character was a huge improvement over her presentation in SPECTRE. I doubt I will be watching this movie repeatedly because of the ending, and actually, it may be a while before I can thoroughly enjoy any Bond movie. Not a fan of killing off an iconic hero.
@@tripi7906 mixed. I loved the action set pieces. Some of the best action we have seen in the franchise. I love the locations so much in this one exception for the final bland island. I love the nods to On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I love the emotional beats. His relationship with Madeline is miles better in this entry than it was in spectre. I love the concept of having a daughter and what she brings. Anna de Armis was fantastic but her dress was way too revealing which I did not like. Well I liked it because she's very attractive but I did not like it because philosophically I prefer modesty. Other things I did not like were a lot of the story elements did not make sense like why he all of a sudden didn't trust her in the beginning as an example. I also did not like the final villain in general and how he trivialised the existence of Blofeld. Overall 8/12
These Daniel Craig Bond films are no good! It’s the writing and the stories and the ideas which are the problem. Don’t talk yourself into saying that you like a film that deep down in your heart you know is no good!
Loved the review. Even though the movie didn't sit too well with me, it certainly was beautiful. The biggest issue I had was just the fact that I felt down after watching the thing. It wasn't particularly because of something that happened in the movie. It just felt lifeless and tired with Bond sort of giving up.
I think the first hour is a decent Bond film, then it becomes True Lies 2. I do not have to watch a movie more than once to review it. I think that is being used as a “convince myself” tool. I will see it again but I do not see my opinion changing. I believe the love some have for DC, mainly because of CR is clouding judgement. DC hijacked the last two films. Barbara could never tell him no. She let him break her father’s top commandments, no one actor is bigger than the franchise and stick to the formula.
Films are works of art and are worth re watching to appreciate all the hard work put into it. Just walking past a painting and going 2 out of 10 feels lazy.
@@eabcool so you’ve never watched a film a second time? I try not to be a bully online but these two comments may be some of the most ignorant things I’ve ever read. Seeing a film twice is a trick to convince yourself? I think the trick is convincing yourselves that that statement is true.
Daniel Craig was not James Bond he was an actor playing James Bond, actors are replaceable, James Bond is not. The next time we see a “James Bond” movie, we already know, in the end, James Bond gets killed. That (kills) the entire fantasy of “Being James Bond”.
The first 2/3rds were pretty good but the ending was very poorly executed. Not a great one overall. Can the next Bond film finally be a little less personal?
Great comment. Personal is how I would describe Craig’s arc. And that’s not what bond films are based on. It’s a great film, but NTTD for me is the furthest thing from a bond film.
So many plotholes. Such an idiotic ending. I cannot believe how many Bond fans just accept it and nod along. Guarantee four years from now when the new Bond comes out everyone raving about this movie will come out and say "Yeah that last Craig movie was shit right?"
I don't know why people feel the car is overused. We have sparingly seen it in 8 out of 25 films, mostly as a personal car without gadgets. Is the commercials where we see it the most.
I was pretty convinced he would like it due to all the OHMSS references and Fleming stuff. The way this film focused on Bond as a character felt very Fleming to me.
Yea I knew when the OHMSS references were made it was going to be his favorite or worst Bond film on dang near just that alone, ha... I think Joe has an irrational love for OHMSS, lol
Your review is almost identical to mine. I absolutely loved this film from start to finish. I get and appreciate the criticisms and rightfully so. This one ranks right near the top for me. It also already has a sentimental value to me in that I introduced my 9 year old son to James Bond this summer. This was his first Bond movie in theaters and our first together in theaters (obviously). I'm very certain he cried at the end. I'll happily admit that I struggled to keep it together especially at Q's reaction and his quivering lip. As a 9 year old who doesn't know the whole history and fandom as we all do, this one is currently in a 3 way tie for his favorite along with Skyfall and Goldfinger.
I enjoyed the review. I don't think this was a horrible movie, but I wasn't particularly over-joyed with it either. I felt like, the goal was met... A good send off for Daniel Craig, and he can be proud on that and I'd rather this movie exist, than not. SPOILERS: But, I do think the sense of danger was far more pronounced in Skyfall (with his injury) or in Casino with Vesper's reaction to death, than we got here with the Superman Bond. Also, I thought there were far too many plot points that were under-developed. The new 007 had a very enjoyable friction with Bond, which felt like it was missing a 3rd act, after she suddenly gave him back his 007 designation after deciding she respected him suddenly. The Felix send off was good, but I really felt like he should have been at the Spectre meeting in Cuba kicking butt with Bond, instead of him being in a club and then getting shot in the next scene... I've met people that only watched the Craig films that were totally unaware who Felix was, or why they had a connection. The villain was setup great, but once again, lacked a compelling 3rd act, which ultimately made the death of Bond kinda weak, because I just didn't buy this was the guy that took Bond down. I totally agree the Blofeld stuff was nonsense, with more Blofeld telling us how evil he is, instead of the film showing us. The virus itself was a massive plothole.... If Bond was infected with the Spectre killing virus at the Spectre party, wasn't that enough to just kill Blofeld outright, or did Safrin remove Blofeld from the list? But... We needed a reason to reintroduce Madaline. Then there is this entire thing going on with Mallory, that he apparently created Hercules... WHAT??? Shouldn't Mallory be in jail? Did Bond die because Mallory is a moron? The film's need to have all these different plot threads resulted in none of them really being developed in a way that was as satisfying as it could have been, and some of them being disappointing, such as Moneypenny or Q having very little to do. Everything was good-to-okay, but very little was great. I mean, Bond died, and I'm not really sure what would have happened if he hadn't sacrificed himself because I have no idea what the villain's real plot was outside of killing random people for very little reason. I also found it very strange that Bond would fall for Blofeld's trap at the beginning... But, I'll buy it because the BEST part of this movie was the Madaline and Bond relationship, which I give them props, I hated that relationship in Spectre and they won me over here. I really was confused however, with the constant references to On Her Majesty's Secret Service, because... that just kept making me remember they retconned one of my favorite Bond films into non-existent. Not only did Tracy Bond die, she now doesn't even exist, and her theme music is now Madaline's? I guess you could make the case that Madaline is effectively Tracy Bond, and therefore, No Time to Die, has Bond sacrifice his life for her to live, but why not just call her Tracy? Given all the tech, and crazy stuff we've seen in prior Bond movies, I just didn't buy that the virus was permanent. All in all, it was a fun film, 7/10 as a Bond film, an 8/10 as an ordinary film, and miles better than Spectre or Quantum.... Mission accomplished!
The Bond girl from the last film is in this? I don't even remember her. I know I didn't like that movie, so disappointing that this is some kind of sequel. I wish Bond would go back to just stand alone.
I'm very surprised you think this was great Joe. You win if you enjoyed it and I wish I did. It's not just the ending though, so much wrong with this film. I didn't find the action that thrilling, and it was cut short. But its full of plot holess and the middle act is just like a soap opera full of emotions. Daughter aspect doesnt work. It was so poorly written. I bought all the mercandise for this film so you know im a huge 007 fan and hyped this film like crazy. I've seen it twice and will never watch again. Most unenjoyable and depressing bond film ive ever seen. Gun Barrel was appalling too. But most importantly, it didnt feel like a bond film. He couldnt be bond as we know him. Hated the script. Felt so forced in places, like when daniel says die blofelt, but i could go on for ages how much doesnt work in this film. They juggled with so much in this film that it felt like the film didnt even know what it was trying to tell in its story. I still dont even know safins motives and why he is doing it all, and i've seen the film twice. So upset and depressed all that wait for nothing. Worst film since DAD. Wish this was never made. Let's just spoil the whole craig era and blow up vespers grave and kill bond off, oh wait, it's daniels final film so lets kill all the spectre agents in one scene so its done and dusted, oh and lets kill felix and blofelf, what a joke of a film. Appalling and embarrassing film as a fan
Killing off Bond was definitely not a good idea To be a tribute to Craig is one thing but to kill off the main character seems to be nonsensical. I found NTTD to be a bit politically correct. I suppose things will only be clear when the new Bond comes out in the future, to see things in its proper context.
Really good review. I too dislike the heroic sacrifice trope in today’s movies. It’s too depressing and definitely felt out of touch for James Bond. Much respect to you and your channel 👍👍
Joe as a fan of your channel, having watched this review & the wonderful round table discussion on The Bond Experience all I can say is "shocking, positively shocking"! NTTD is a mess. Technically it's a marvelous achievement. Story & plot, a "D" minus. Very disappointing for me to say the least. My overriding question is where do they go from here? Is it possible to just wipe the slate clean & reboot up again? What say you 'head of section'?
Good movie, but the more I think about the ending, the more I hated it. I am not comfortable with what they did to Bond. 24 previous films conditioned me to a different fate, so while I get that this was the definitive ending to the Craig era, I just didn't like that. Bond always escapes!
For me it was a fantastic film with an awful ending. SPOILERS!!! The last thing I want to see in a Bond film is Bond dying. This is my favourite franchise. I love it since I have memory. And after this year and a half of pandemic and tough times, I needed to see my hero in a new movie. And I felt it failed me at the end. It gave me the most depressing and cruel ending ever. I left the cinema so down and sad. And it´s a pity because I LOVE almost the whole rest of the movie (yes, Safin needed more). I watched a second time the following day, I enjoyed again a lot... until the end. My hero blown away with missiles. Come on! And now everytime I´ll watch NTTD, I will feel bothered by that. And it´s not only that he dies. It´s also how he dies. Because he surrendered. He could have left that island, avoid contact with Madeline and Mathilde, live alone in Jamaica again, seeing his daughter grow up through skype, and just wait for a possible cure. No, he just thinks "Oh, I can´t be near my love and my daughter... I prefer to die here." That´s not James Bond for me. I didn´t feel this betrayed since The Dark Knight Rises (again, other character I love doing the last thing I thought he would do). Bond, Madeline and Mathilde in the car at the end. Why not? It would have been so great. The first James Bond movie with him retiring with a family. It would have been totally different that way too. But no, we live in a time where the only great sendoff for a character is killing him.
Well said! Great film, bad ending. Had Bond been killed before much earlier, then maybe I can understand. But after 25 films over 60 years, he's the screen icon that ALWAYS survives! Now we don't have that over other franchises. And this will be forever know as "The one where Bond dies." Ugh.
@@tboyd5150 Totally. For me now it´s, first of all, "THE MOVIE WHERE BOND DECIDES TO DIE", and after that it´s "a great Bond movie". I don´t get it. That´s the feeling you want your fans to have? It´s so difficult for me to place it in my ranking. In general it´s a better movie than Quantum and SPECTRE, but at least those movies doesn´t make me feel depressed.
Thanks for this. I am in the same dilemma. At the moment I have a nagging feeling that Craig became bigger than the character and demanded a way to show his full range.
Seeing @thebondexperience 2 year anniversary of NTTD I’m glad to see Joe’s support of the film . We were a bit shell shocked to walk out of the cinema to dead Bond but it was a fitting 007 moment 😊
So “Die Another Day” didn’t mark the start of your unhappiness with the franchise? Because, IMO, No Time to Die was leaps and bounds better of a film and pulled this franchise away from becoming a goof-fest that the franchise was headed towards at the end of Brosnan’s era. I think the franchise is going to be fine….more realistic storylines…unless we want the franchise to turn into Fast n Furious.
The movie went to shiz the moment Bond visits Madeleine and the daughter's there. Up to that point, it was pretty darn good. Ironically, Die Another Day was plagued by the same problem. The first half of the film is great, until invisible cars and snowboarding on tsunamis was introduced. The classic Purvis and Wade syndrome. I would die to be a part of the writing process, just to see what's so darn difficult about getting a story right! Every single film since 'The World Is Not Enough' has had problems with its screenplay. Truly unbelievable.
Imho killing off James Bond (assuming he isn't actually dead and it's not a plot gimmick and he doesn't survive/return in Bond 26!) - was a very foolish mistake by Eon Productions. 1- Massively divisive amongst the fanbase. Killing off Bond has resulted in some fans very upset and feeling betrayed. Older fans have followed and supported the franchise for decades and killing Bond feels like Eon saying "screw you" to the fans. The producers don't care if their decision will upset older, long term fans. 2 - Disrespectful to the work and legacy of Ian Fleming and Albert Broccoli. Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson were bequeathed the Bond franchise. In terms of ownership they can do what they like with James Bond, but I would argue they have no moral right to kill off Bond to appease the selfish demands of the lead actor Daniel Craig. 3 - pointlessly ruining any semblance of continuity. Bond is dead in Bond 25 but magically back alive in Bond 26? Ridiculous. 4 - Arrogance. It's an act of arrogance for Daniel Craig to insist his return to the role is conditional on the death of Bond. James Page of MI6 James Bond fan site confirmed that information. Who is Craig to decide a fifty nine year old film character has to die?! Craig kills off Bond then leaves the franchise. He avoids any accountability. 5 - Unnecessary downbeat, depressing end to Craig's Bond era. Many fans have enjoyed Craig's tenure as Bond. Killing off his Bond is a weird way to bring his character/story arc to a conclusion. Hardly going to make fans think "wow, i invested fifteen years in this version of Bond, that was worth it!" Killing off Bond is a nihilistic approach to the franchise. Life is kinda meaningless so let's make Craig's Bond era meaningless too. 🙄
Regarding point 3 - the Daniel Craig movies are their own continuity, anything that comes after will not be connected so his death in NTTD is irrelevant in tha regard. Why are so many people having a hard time understanding this?
That doesn't give Craig the right to kill off Ian Fleming's James Bond. Every Eon Productions James Bond film states... Albert R. Broccoli presents the actor as Ian Fleming's James Bond in....the title of the current film. The Craig era doesn't state... Albert R. Broccoli's Eon Productions presents Daniel Craig as alternative reality version of Ian Fleming's James Bond in... No Time To Die.
@@bobsmithy9024 I respect that you dislike the decision to kill off his version of Bond, it still doesn't mean that Bond can't be rebooted again. Different actor, different version of the character.
I think for this experiment of Craig’s Bond having a singular connecting story it makes a ton of sense for him to die. It’s gonna get rebooted probably going back to the disconnected one off stories where he can live on at the end. For Daniel Craig’s era this was perfect. A beginning, a middle, and an end.
There was no middle though! Craig's first two films are the very beginning of Bond's career as a 00. Skyfall is the next film, and he's already old and they're talking about retirement/obsolescence of the program. So they skip the entirety of his career. They only decided to make it one connected arc with the garbage fire that is Spectre...and that film cheapens Le Chifre & Silva + made Quantum (the group) redundant. NTTD would've been better as a standalone style film, so it didn't have to tie up the loose ends with Blofeld, which ultimately had no real effect on the plot. Maybe they wouldn't have felt the need to kill Bond off in the most predictable/forced way either.
We watch Bond for thrill and FUN, Not drama SO HAS to have somehow survived, self-exiled for any future film's threat to be threatening. EPIC fake out!!!👍👍👍
Can someone explain to me the reason behind Safin’s plot to infect millions of people? What does “Tidy up” mean? And why did he just let Bond’s daughter go? I thought the film was brilliant but my biggest issues are around Safin, not the actual ending.
Strange how you said first hand that this film is "a work of art" and then you critcize it harshly (and rightly so) in the medium spoilers section. So it feels that in fact you did not like it but subconsciously do not want to admit. Am I too Madelein Swann-ing you right now ? 🤔😁
This movie was horrible and I'm a huge Craig fan. All the performances in NTTD felt phoned in, other than Malek. The score was by far the worst of the Craig tenure. The technology took a step backwards towards the days of Brosnan which made the whole movie corny. The directing was odd in my opinion, such as when to cut scenes and make transitions, the saturation levels made it look like a video game. NTTD actually made Spectre seem like an amazing movie in comparison and I was never even much of a fan of that one. The payout at the end of Bond dying barely even emotionally affected me; I cried more during Click. There's so much wrong with this movie, it never felt right the whole time I was watching.
Everything up until the island was top tier Bond for me, even with the little writing problems with the Blofeld scene which I actually didn’t mind his performance here as he had a bit more Hannibal Lector about him. Even on the island there was some fantastic action and interesting twists for me. The only thing that let it down was Safin’s motivations outside of Spectre and Madeleine and why he was wanting to use the nanobots. I think the third act when Bond and Safin meet and are on their knees talking is where it should have been explained clearly rather than Safin ruining the twist that Mathilde is Bond’s daughter before Madeleine does so. As far as the end goes it doesn’t bother me as I can now watch the Craig films as one continuous arc from a young 00 in Casino to his death here. It will make for an interesting binge watch for sure.
Great comment... Can you imagine what this movie would be like and the BILLIONS it would make, if Bond arrives at the island, kills the bad guys, saves Maddy and his daughter, gets a lift from the British naval ship BEFORE the missiles are sent, and they are all seen driving together in the DB5 into the sunset with Madeleine saying to her daughter, "Let me properly introduce you to your father... this is Bond, James Bond." But now... in the depths of this dystopian and soul-sucking KOVID KATASTROPHY they had to KILL JAMES BOND ! What disgusting GHOULS these peoducers are !
@@mr.bmt216a2 I am okay with the ending we got because it ends the Craig 5 film arc. Would I have liked a happy Hollywood ending? Yes, but I respect the absolute balls to go this route. The only thing I wanted more is Safin’s motivations about why he’s doing what he’s doing outside of revenge for Spectre and Madeleine.
It felt odd. He wanted revenge on Specter and got it, but where did they poisoning the world motivation come from? And why did they need to shoot the missles immediately?
Worse Bond film of all time.. a pile of 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 1% as good as Casino Royale.. Is their a go fund me for a screenwriter? Seeing ALL Bond films at the theaters since 1973..
Hey, you guys proposed "the last film of each Bond is the weakest"? Well, here's your proof! I had to watch 'Diamonds Are Forever' afterwards just to cleanse my palate! 👎👎
hey joe...well...i respect your initial reaction, however i didn't care for the film at all...and perhaps you are right that this is the perfect way to end the craig era, which has been more a soap opera than a spy franchise...if craig had played a different agent, perhaps the whole story thread would have worked and simply been o.k...but this wasn't just any secret agent...this was supposed to be bond, and it wasn't......and to end it all with louis armstrong simply made me cringe...that was a disrespect to the soing, the character of tracy, and the 'majesty' film itself....i await bond's return....thanks for always returning for us...peace always...rocky
Many reviewers highlight how good this film's esthetics and quality are just to hide to themselves and their viewers the simple truth...that as much as we hate to admit it this movie is a mediocre one at best. This review is not the exception (the host of this video is mentioning so many issues with NTTD and still calls it a great movie ☹).
In ways of direction, acting, action, cinematography, locations etc. it was a very nice movie. But I totally disliked the plot holes, Safin's portrayal and questionable motives, Bond having a baby (!), the needless overuse of OHMSS music and first of all, Bond's death (!) which is combined with the death or destruction of every other classic Bond character (Felix, Blofeld, SPECTRE)!! Furthermore Q is portayed as a gay in a specific scene and Bond doesn't even flirt with Moneypenny anymore! Why all that?
Great discussion, Joe. I think in the context of what they did under Craig, it works and was a very good film. I'd say it's third for me of his five. That said, I don't like the Craig is special and needs his own universe, nor the way it ended necessarily. I guess they felt this was the natural conclusion but I don't like to see Bond like this and I hope never to again. I was with Q - get the hell out of there. So what would the worst case be? The bombs don't blow the place up? No one could follow up and blow it up later? He couldn't walk away and NOT see Madeleine or the kid or just zoom with them? I think it was unnecessary, but like you, I'm ok with it. After Spectre's retcon that everything was tied together, you throw up your hands. I HOPE for 26 we get back to proper Bond. I want a guy who is bad ass, loves being Bond, isn't dour, mopey and miserable or riddled with issues. His issues should be what Fleming wrote - he copes with his job and his possible death by throwing himself into life. He drinks to excess, smokes, chases the ladies, eats the best food, goes to the best hotels, drives the best cars. That's his outlet. While I have huge respect for what Craig did, his Bond seldom seemed to like being Bond. Not sure who the next actor will be but I'd do what they've done in the past and go 180 a bit and bring in something other than say Tom Hardy impersonating Craig. Whether that's Henry Cavill finally able to use his own accent and providing some of the lightness of The Man From Uncle and toughness of his MI role, or somebody else. I want a return to M handing him a folder and him carrying out a mission and being the guy the first 50 years of the films was. No multiverses or special treatment because Barbara has a crush on the actor, please. Like you, I'm sure I will evolve on how I feel. I've seen it twice and agree, when it was right, it was very right but definite things to criticize. I'll end with a few... Rami was a weak villain and his motivation for killing millions non existent; the garden of death is something I always wanted to see - that was a garden? Looked like a quarry more than a garden to me; Blofeld never handled properly in Spectre or this and his death unnecessary; Paloma was great but certainly felt like part of a different movie; and last, I miss Felix. They handled his death well but did we need three main characters to die in this? Props to OHMSS homage/twist. The best Bond film to me and any reference, especially by Eon who for whatever reason has always been ashamed of it, works for me.
"This is the last film in Craig's tenure. Does that mean we're allowed to do what ever we please and burn all our bridges?" The answer is no. Bond is a legend of fortitude and this film kills that legend. It was the ONE thing I didn't want to happen in this film. Other than that, my mind was wide open to whatever. It's such a betrayal to the audience b/c the previous Craig films set him up to be the legendary, invincible James Bond we all know and love and NTTD does a complete flip on it. And for what? To give a true sense of finality to Craig's era? A surprising emotional punch? I kept telling myself that they MIGHT kill Bond at the end before it came out, but I was foolishly optimistic in believing that they wouldn't be that meanspirited. I refuse to pay to see this film and will wait for it to be released on DVD so I can check it out at my local library for free. After that, I'll never see a new Bond film again. The legend is dead whether the franchise continues or not.
You are hating and complaining just because of THAT?! I just really can't understand this, it seems that you and others hating on the Craig era just want to hate on it without valid/substantial reasons.
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 I actually loved the Craig era for everything it did. And of course I'm complaining about the ending like there's no tomorrow. You don't seem to understand that the ending of NTTD is going to dramatically impact how we view future Bond films. The next time we see Bond in danger, we won't care as much because they already killed him once and you can't shock your audience a 2nd time.
@@LeonWick526 What?!!? The one that died is the Daniel Craig version. If there will be a new Bond, it will be a new actor and most likely it is another reboot. It seems that you're just creating problems because there are no problems at all. Did you also complain when Wolverine died in Logan and Iron Man died in Avengers:Endgame? Lol
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 I didn't see Logan or Avengers because I'm not a fan of either franchise. You're also missing the point, I know it's the Daniel Craig version who died. But now we see Bond as someone who can be killed and we never thought of him as someone who would be killed because he's written as an "exemplary of British fortitude." Bond's trademark is that he always finds his way out of tight spots and never gives up. You can reboot Bond as many times as you want, but you can't reboot the legend of the never-say-die secret agent. Don't bother giving me any crap about "this Bond is different b/c he's more human", etc. The character of James Bond is something you borrow and return in one piece. Not keep and destroy at your own leisure.
@@LeonWick526 Nah the Daniel Craig series just took the tragic route, and it was done beautifully, so there's nothing wrong with that. The movie overall has a good story, and you should appreciate it. Don't be a toxic and entitled fan that acts like a spoiled child.
Great first thoughts! Totally agree! Seen it 4 times now. The DC era is it’s own thing and this was the proper way to wrap it up with a bow. It is very Fleming. Ian would indeed enjoy the DC era. Cheers!
Joseph, I respect your reviews and I see your take. Hadn’t seen the film but spoilers don’t bother me. Killing Bond? It bothered me. But since Fleming nearly killed him, I think you’re right. He would appreciate this as a final tribute. What are your thoughts on how they handled Q? My issue with watching them all together is Spectre. It made Bond clueless as Blofield was behind the three previous films and Bond had no suspicion. Though, I am done with Bond. This caps it off for me. Thank you.
Hello and greetings from a Bond fan in Poland! :) I'm very happy that you enjoyed NTTD. For me it was easily the second best Craig's approach towards Bond after Casino Royale. This Craig's 5-part miniseries is probably the first cinematic attend to capture the whole 'life cycle' of Bond from gaining 007 status (and even earlier with Skyfall's journey into the past) to his death and heritage. And btw I really love the last shot of NTTD as Madeline and Mathilde are entering the tunnel which clearly reflects entering the classic gunbarrel. It is a very simple and very effective summary for the whole franchise. Anyway thank you very much for this review and looking forward for the next discussions about NTTD!
Honest and positive review - thanks Joe. ........Not so sure about Joe saying lets get back to traditional Bond now...he's the man who reckons Octopussy is his favourite film 😨
I think you will change your mind. I also asked myself while watching: “Am I watching a Bond film?” The film made Bond too human, too vulnerable, too emotional, and that’s not movie Bond. If I wanna see that guy, I’ll look at my neighbor, my colleagues, or look in the mirror! I am the same age as the Bonds, and I want to see the tall, dark , and handsome Connery/Moore types who are invulnerable and provide all the fun elements of a parallel fantasy world - that’s why we go to the movies! Craig is a good actor, but never Bond to me, dull, dour, and just not fun.
I won't go see this piece of garbage. My wife suggested we go see it, and I told her to forget it. How can James Bond return? Is he coming back as a pile of Ash??? Why would I want to see James Bond killed and give up his will to live??? Did Roger Moore's 007 just give up and become lunch for the Crocodiles in LALD? Did Sean Connery's 007 just let himself and Fort Knox explode in a nuclear blast? Audiences are throwing popcorn and soda during screenings in the UK..The movie flopped in North America, only 56 million. (after a 6 year wait) It's the lowest opening for a James Bond film. Vemon 2 made 90 million during a pandemic. The the first Vemon movie opened at 80 million (and the movie is so bad) People hate No Time To Die. It's the "Last Jedi" of the Bond series." Let the past die, kill it if you have to" Look how that worked out for Disney Star Wars.
Spoilers ahead..... Why not leave some doubt as to whether our hero survives at the end? That would have been a much better ending..... And why kill off Felix?......why?
At the bottom tier with Die Another Day, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Octopussy, and possibly the worst of them all. Started promising but went south after Ana de Armas left and they completely wasted Felix's death (thought we were about to get a great Licence To Kill-esque revenge mission, but it was just lame). Everything on the island was awful, his death included, and Bond having a kid ruins Bond.
I bloody new BOND FILM NO TIME TO DIE THE FILM IS A A LONG FILM 📼 WITH LAST ONE WITH MR DANIEL CRAIG AS JAMES BOND MY FAVOURITE BOND IS DANIEL CRAIG JAMES BOND,,,,,,,
Didn’ t feel like a Bond film in the least… it SUCKS in every possible way, and the ending is the last straw. No self-respecting Bond fan will be anywhere near happy with this maudlin, sorry-ass piece of cinema. My advice to one and all: save your hard-earned sheckles for the next Mission Impossible.
Warning, plot reveal and analysis below... As Bond fans we didn't attend the cinema, we attended a Red wedding. Our favourite spy was killed in front of us and we applaud? No. This film is a fundamental betrayal of everything James Bond stands for. He is an archetype, the hero, a story as old as time, good prevails over evil, from our earliest childhood, we've heard countless variations of this story. A story where both the hero and villian are defeated does not fit this tradition. It's not Bond. It's not cricket. The people responsible for this film are the exact same people Bond would be fighting against. This will not stand. Good will prevail.
Aahh..another so called critic who's pretending but does not want kill jobs in LA..in 30yrs of me watching.this only movie I fell asleep twice..liar..the action in movie same as trailor..meaning this movie was scam on fans.motorcycle scen seen in trailor is really the only action scene total movie delivers..no way this bull shit movie cost 250million.expect to see fuji open his own production company,same as Sam medes..shame on you Barbra boccoli..
Awesome thumbnail Joe - You look about as cool here as you could possibly look! looking forward to your view on this one - For better or worse - good or bad It’s definitely not your average Bond Movie, that’s for sure lol!!
This film was 6/10 at best. Craig stopped being bond and and just played himself. Why was it necessary for blofield to be poisoned when bond already had the nanobots to kill spectre off? How could they not know where she lived ? The Norway scenes Craig is dressed like himself not bond. It’s like a cape... the scenes with the blast doors are dumb. Nomi was great. Why the writers have to have Craig’s bond lose and fail at almost every last battle is beyond me...
Not that i want to defend this thing, but they didn't program the nanos to kill blofeld since he wasn't at the party. A better question is where Safin got Blofeld's and everyone else's DNA since he apparently needs that. And they did know where Maddeleine lived, that's why Ash was in Norway and Nomi followed him there.
@@ethantoise4073 CR was the only good movie out of this era. these writers have to steal archetypes from Christianity, use Masonic symbols in all of these films its pathetic. Can they write a story at all without plagiarism? Do they have any original ideas of their own? How many times can they tell the same story? and Craig’s bond fails in every one of them.
@@ethantoise4073 yea quantum was terrible. Sky fall is okay I’ll be honest it’s at least re-watchable. Quantum’s villain and henchman were both completely terrible. The plot was about “water” honestly its not even worth a view at all.
@@vilhamdutch2962 Quantum - except the action was better than skyfall if you don't blink, skyfall has weak action aside from the pts and the climax, and has the only real bond girl craig got besides vesper. Controlling the water was more about gaining political influence, it wasn't like he was going to sell the water to the dirt poor civilians like Joe thinks but i can see how the editing made it seem that way. The subway bombing sucks and was done better in Die Hard 3
The "Only" real issue I have with the Craig Era Bond is him being emotionally duped by all his Love interests'.. Other than that I'm partial to his gritty take on the Character..
Be sure to get Scott back on the show to discuss it please.
I was wondering if I missed something. I thought they always did these reviews as a team.
Yes I also would like to hear Scott 's opinion. Is it known why he hasn't been on the show yet? I hope everything is fine with him.
@Jack the Film Fanatic Thanks for your reply. That's a pity though.
@Jack: the film fanatic what’s the reason behind that?
They killed Bond. I mean, as a lifelong fan that makes it impossible for me to enjoy or applaud. Just awful. I think even as a film it had a ton of flaws and plot holes. Thumbs down. Did I mention they killed James Bond. He blew up. He died in front of our eyes. Why would anyone want to see that? Glad the Craig era is over.
Agree so much. NTTD was appalling.
Bond even died by royal navy. that was even worse
I can't believe how many people like, and even love, the ending with his death. Bond always survives!
25 films, 1 death. You guys seriously can’t handle it? You guys probably care less about actual people dying.
@@HoustonSoto Well aren't you the selfless saint. I doubt you even cared about James Bond in the first place.
Worst Bond film EVER. Not worth the time it took to watch it. They chose to cater to the woke folk at the expense of Bond fans.
What's happened to Scott Atkins? Will we be seeing his thoughts on this film?
love the channel joe, but yeah, i hated the movie. hated the ending, didn't feel like a Bond movie througout. felt like a family melodrama. felt like Spectre 2. same old 'cuckoo' nonsense. i never believed Bond and Madeline's relationship. 90% of the time since spectre i couldn't even remember her name. after the last two movies i wish i could forget the Craig era. i think the Bond we grew up with is gone.
It’s such a relief to find other anti Graig Bond fans out there. It’s been a dreadful 15 years of fake Bond movies. They stripped Bond of everything that makes it a bond movie and made him a boring depressive. Bring back classic BOND
@@jettjones9889 i wasn't anti-Craig for a long time, but the last 2 put me over the edge.
Even if this is its own universe, what is the point of a Bond movie where he doesnt win???? This movie was awful. James Bond will return...what a pointless thing to have at the end. Also all the nods to OHMSS, BAD. How dare they say the line and play the song. Lets face it, if this was done by a fan or something, everyone would be destroying this movie. Its very boring anyway, and the villain was so dry "we are the same" God, we have so many of those in Craigs era. This movie has some cool action and some good Bond moments, but they all end up being pointless. Who will rewatch this movie with any joy?
I couldn't watch this movie again. Im feel upset and betrayed and this is simply not James Bond to me anymore.
@@EthanKnight97 I totally agree
Agreed. Some good moments but overall BORING...and way too long, struggled not leave the cinema😏
He does win. Skyfall is the movie where he fails.
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You're kidding right.. ? The guy who just called James Bond a RAPIST ?
They did say that Blofeld would only talk to Madeline in a quick line.
Yea I think it’s mentioned maybe twice, very quickly.
My first viewing I didn’t catch how Safin was gathering Madeline and Bonds dna. Totally missed the hair and tooth brush
@@TravisTLCdrumming Spectre gathered Bond's toothbrush.
M would only allow Swann to talk to B
This was a fitting end to Craig's era. But it does have it's faults. I do hope the next iteration of the character dials down the pathos and grimness and highlights more of the adventure and humor (though not the cheesiness) of some of the earlier films. It's tough to get it just right.
Thats why I loved Brosnan I think he hit the perfect balance ,,,, well until DAD came out with that horrific CGI effects grrr
@@trevorlee7945 100% agree Brosnan hit the perfect balance. Goldeneye was his best film, but I actually think his portrayal in TWINE was the best Bond portrayal we've ever gotten. He was truly ruthless/dangerous, yet he still had quips; all while being incredibly suave.
It WAS a fitting end for Craig's Bond because Craig's Bond is a big dumb brute who isn't smart enough to figure out that it's not necessary to sacrifice himself.
@@scottcarroll9201 When you put it that way, I can't disagree with you! haha
@@scottcarroll9201😂 it’s hate/somewhat love relationship with Craig’s bond for me
If Craig had sailed off into the sunset with his family, we would still get a new James Bond in the next film and I’m ok with that.
Exactly. I've always treated the individual Bonds (and, in some cases, individual Bond films) as existing in self-contained universes.
The eulogy is part of a longer poem written by Jack London. It was also used in YOLT.
Okay, now we need Scott for the real review. This film is hot garbage and a complete slap in the face to anyone who ever loved this franchise.
They've killed the franchise. Where do you go from here? Another re-boot? Say the next Bond is a different continuity? Go back to pre Craig continuity and just say forget the Craig Bonds ever happened? I just don't see how you continue the franchise without it seeming like a cheap cop out.
Didn’t like the gunbarrel and opening snow section. Overlong pre credit sequence. They should have moved the snow sequence to a flashback for Madeline in the Safin / Madeline psychiatrist scene. My favourite section was the Cuba section with Paloma. I really hated the ending. Up to the island section it was going fairly well, then the whole thing collapsed for me. Awful.
By the way, I assume since the Mi6 staff have mourned Bond that these incarnations of those characters have to go too. Wasn’t ready to say goodbye to Fiennes, Harris, Whishaw and Kinnear too!
By making the Craig films a continuous story with Casino Royale as him getting his 00 and then dying in his last film, this means that they can now kill Bond again. They've set a precedent now, and I'm not happy with it. Neither is my partner who is a massive Bond fan too.
I hadn't thought of that, the precedent of killing Bond again. Ugh. Maybe they won't though if they have the attitude that Bond dying was only something the precious Daniel Craig gets to do.
I am very surprised how accepting the Bond podcasters/youtubers are over this. Strongly disliked it and certainly isn’t the Bond film I wanted (maybe even needed) in 2021. i don’t hold much hope for the future either with Amazon ownership as I think now with a blank slate they’ll poop content out like Disney do (the MCU has a lot to answer for). It may be a long while before the 50th box set gets touched again.
One of my favorite birthday presents was a friend (who I lost a few years ago) giving me every Bond movie on DVD. So, this fangirl agrees. I'm livid about this so called "arc."
As I've said, they didnt kill off Connery in Never Say Never Again, which was his swan song as Bond. He kissed Kim Basinger, broke the 4th wall and winked at the audience. Kinda like riding off into the sunset, which was perfect.
Nah what they did with Craig is just perfect. There's nothing wrong with it and you're just making issues out of it
@@theclapperloader2810 You should like the Craig era
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 I’m allowed not to like it. What they did was ok for 50 years just not now apparently.
@@Bugster987 What are the things that you don't like about it? You can't just say that you're allowed to hate on it if you can't give good points as to why the Craig era must be hated.
God, I hated this movie so much. I completely disagree that this movie was Fleming-esque. I reckon Fleming would be turning in his grave with how ridiculous the plots have gotten. The nanabots stuff was SOO bad. I feel like the Craig era has been on a downward trajectory since Casino (masterpiece) with one other high point (Skyfall). By the end of this film I was honestly quite happy that he died because I was so tired of Daniel Craig as Bond, made me miss Brosnan which is saying something. I thought there were so many cheap plot points in this movie to try to force emotion into it: the daughter, his death, and the references to OHMSS (don’t ride on the coat tails of a brilliant film). They all ended up falling flat for me. Had to watch Living Daylights today as a palate cleanser.
I'm not here to try and convince anyone of anything or argue with anybody just to share options with the community.
That being said I hated this film, just didn't feel like a Bond film to me, Craig's acting felt off, the way people treat Bond was jarring, it was like a middle finger to the character. I could go on but I don't want to sound too negative for those of you who liked it I'm happy for you.
I agree, thought it wasn't a great film really. 5/10 or low 6 at best.
Bond is treated in a dismissive manner by almost all the characters involved minus Felix and the fanboi. I don't think women should always throw themselves at him, and it's ok to reject unwanted advances (since I guess that's what we need to highlight in the world now) BUT! He is a commander and has always been a highly respected character among his peers and other agents. He gets the job done after all, he just felt like a lil' bitch in this movie lol. Everyone was against him or had an issue with him, which leads me to believe this was shoehorned in so that the character could be punished for his prior sexist ways.
My other main issue is the plot, the script is very, VERY lazy. I don't know how others can't see that. The whole thing of connecting all the characters is classic lazy writing and more inline with the rubbish and dumbed down Marvel universe movies. Newsflash folks - we don't want that in a Bond film.
Script just reeks of lazy writing and trying to connect characters that really didn't have to be connected. Sometimes it just doesn't work trying to constantly link everything together, because you simply can't. It comes off contrived and pretty lazy I thought.
No chemistry between him and Madeline either.
Safin has no real purpose, all he does is talk as well at length.
Quite a few problems with this film really. Disappointed.
@@yeeeha5674 I agree with you completely, I could go on and on about what I didn't like, I completely forgot about how bad the villain was haha, at least the db5 scenes were good, that being said The Living Daylights is my favourite Bond film and having the Volante back was cool but wasted.
Atticus & Chris your on point here. Craig's
Bond was pushed around by women most of
picture. Proper retitle, Just Waiting To Die.
Because Adventures In Baby Sitting is taken
we're going to have to go with "Family Bonding: The Accidental Dad". The script if
you could call it that seemed to be writers
picking up plot gimmicks off the table and
then trying to write a story around them. Any
one know why Bond had to put his Gal on a
train to no where? Apparently half a Jason
mask doesn't age in this comic book to film
version. Small thanks to writers for not making Bonds getaway vehicle a soccer Mom's mini van. Yes the girl is adorable but you know full well she was supposed to be dropped off at Disney Studios and you kept her, at least it was a "G" rated picture.Can any one name the video
game they stole the action scene where you
get ambushed by 50 motorcycles and 3 dozen cars coming at you out of the woods?
Franchise, if you wanted to make the new "00" instantly annoying with the recycled 007
gag you did. Bond submitting to psycho was
gross. Thank you Aston Martin awesome. Stunt department some good work as well.
Having said that one could have watched the
ever expanding trailer and have had a far more pleasant experience. Your own imagination of what you think might happen
would far exceed what we paid for on film.
No doubt, with ample opportunity in the car
or hotel room these writers couldn't write
adult dialog between a man and women to
save themselves, and so they didn't. Older
Bond film goers will remember the films to
mirror society during the cold War with Russian U.K./U.S.A. interplay. The reason we get
all this sci-fi, comic book trash is it all has
to get by or pass the Chinese Communist Party sensors. If they were independent and
pro U.K./U.S.A. the next picture would take place with
Bond trying to help save Taiwan from invasion and vanquish the Chinese. I seriously doubt they'd be willing to forfeit
the box office returns from China. They could go retro to post WW2, safe not unlike
what PBS does. Final note, thought it was the woke crowd that killed off Bond with their aversion to toxic masculinity. Apparently it was Craig himself as a condition of his return. Ashame he thought
so little of this fan base, many of whom are
twice his age and carried real guns in the line of duty to state and country. Where was
Bond's Royal Navy fly-by jet with balloon and
tether cord, harness that snatched Connery's
Bond off the ground from certain death. The
franchise has made 6.89 billion, killing Bond
sound like a prudent business model? Then
again maybe everybody is too old, too rich
to care, fans be damned. Some where perhaps Walt Disney and Ian Fleming are
standing around having a chat, Walt says to
Ian, "What the hell happened to our creations?"
As a huge 007 fan, I've never come out of a cinema so depressed and disappointed, and not just due to that ending, which basically feels disheartening to die hard fans like me. The script was a mess, and felt like a soap opera most of the tilm. Even the action wasn't all that thilling, which doesn't help when bond has hi young daughter in the same vehicle. Oh, what was the writers thinking. But i'm right if you think about it. Because it's daniels last film, they thought, let's kill off all SPECTRE agents, and so they do it in one scene to have it done and dusted. What a cheap way to do it. Oh, then let's kill felix, blofelt and bond seen as it's his last movie. Felt so forced and unnecessary. My worst bond film ever and will never waste another minute on this film. Happy for those who get something out of it, but if you really think about it, aside from all plot holes and issues, the film wasn't worth the wait was it ?
---> Can anyone imagine what this movie would have been like and the BILLIONS of dollars it would have made at the box-office around the world, if it ended like this:
1) Bond arrives at the island,
2) Bond kills all the bad guys,
3) Bond saves Madeleine and his daughter Mathilde,
4) Bond and family get a lift from the British Navy ship BEFORE the missiles are sent off to destroy Safin's island,
5) "M" is taken away in handcuffs to Her Majesty's Prison for 100 years for developing a deadly virus through ILLEGAL "gain of function" bio-engineering in downtown London,
6) and they are all seen driving away together in the Aston Martin DB5 into the sunset with Madeleine saying to her young daughter, "Let me properly introduce you to your father. This is Bond,,, James Bond."
But now... in the depths of this KOVID KATASTROPHY they just HAD to KILL JAMES BOND. What disgusting GHOULS these producers are !
They've Destroyed the James Bond Franchise.
I'll Never Support Another James Bond Film Again.
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But that's just it Joe, he DIDN'T KILL HIM OFF... he didn't kill him off !
Ian Fleming died at a young 56. If he had lived longer to continue the series, I bet any money he would have killed Bond.
Yea I was ok with them killing Bond because: 1.) Broccoli and Wilson have been giving the finger to the "Classic Bond Formula" for 15 years, so why would they break tradition now (and "Bond Fans" have supported this BS for some reason) 2.) They have made all his stories linked together so they had to end it in some fashion. And with the bad script writing and lack of creativity we've gotten the past 15 years you could already guess something like "Let's kill Bond" was seriously on the table (As he said Scott had mentioned) and finally 3.) It was Craig's final outing as Bond but I NEVER viewed him as Bond anyway, so him getting blown up was symbolically much needed closure. In this film though Craig FINALLY acted like James Bond and NOT James Bourne, so I liked the film mostly because of that.... I finally felt like I was watching James Bond in a movie so this being the character the era is ending with is fine. Now who or whatever comes next will take this REAL portrayal James Bond the character and go from there.
@@nigelinasia2088 Bond was Fleming's mealticket. Scattered showers in hell before he killed Bond off.
@@nigelinasia2088 Oh... okay... so now WE KNOW what Ian Fleming would have done when he hit the age of 78 ??? Whaaaa ???
@@xyrising2675 Great analysis... and quite sharp. Indeed, "Craig was NEVER really the classical Bond" anyways.
We were all waiting for your review! While good, I’m very surprised by it!
It was a better than average action flick, any interesting chick flick but NOT a Bond movie!!!
The producers & Craig betrayed Bond and the fans! Goodbye Daniel & good riddance!
"They betrayed the fans." I could not agree more. You said it. How could they do that and not think it would upset every single fan? A happy ending is too much to ask? For Bond after all he's done? For us?!
It is a well made film but the plot is thin and Bond dies in a very stupid way.
I do not buy into the idea that the 5 Daniel Craig Bond films can be seen as a satisfying overarching story or "mini-series". Rather, I sense that the notion that these 5 films form a coherent whole in a narrative sense has arisen to justify some of the story choices that were made in this film - i.e. an exercise in post-hoc justification.
If it were the case that the 5 films were intended as a coherent whole, then it was IMO poorly conceived and executed. A few points for why I think this is the case:
(1) The first two films form a connected story which featured a Bond who is essentially a rookie. Then suddenly, at the the start of Skyfall, we see Bond as a washed-up hack who is suggested to be too old and bitter for the role of 007. What happened to the the missing years of service that connect QoS with Skyfall? You could suggest that those years were filled with the actions that occurred in such movies as Dr No, From Russia with Love, Thunderball, etc, but then that cuts across the idea that Craig's Bond been seen as its own unique continuity.
(2) The end of Spectre clearly suggest an ending where Bond has "got the girl, vanquished the villain (Blofeld), and walks off into the sun" - and this should be no surprise as it was suggested that that film may have been Craig's last. However, the backlash over some of the story choices in this film led (IMO) to the producers second-guessing themselves and seeking a re-do which we now see in NTTD.
(3) It seems to me that Spectre set up some really troubling continuity problems in the Craig films by suggesting that Blofeld and Spectre had been orchestrating the previous villains in the preceding 3 movies. Were there any suggestions or hints in those 3 movies of Spectre involvement? Personally, I found it really stretched credulity to think that there had been Spectre involvement all along - rather it seems like this was all cheap plot point (similar to making Bond and Blofeld brothers) to try to quickly give more gravitas and menace to Spectre and Blofeld.
If you want an example of a film franchise successfully employing an overarching story over multiple film, look to the MCU films from Iron Man to Avengers: Endgame - this was conceived over years and with the connecting tropes planted in the end credits (and occasionally in the substantive plot) of each film leading to the last.
If you want another example of a film franchise poorly conceiving and executing an overarching story, look no further than the recent Disney Star Wars sequel trilogy. Just as in this Bond film, the last in that Trilogy (The Rise of Skywalker) did what it did storywise to fix narrative mistakes in the preceding films. In the Rise of Skywalker, the film makers had to take the frankly ludicrous decision of resurrecting Emperor Palpatine (who had blown to smithereens in Return of the Jedi) to fix the egregious mistake of killing of Snoke, the villain that had been building up in the story until his abrupt death halfway through The Last Jedi.
All 100% true. It's surprising how few fans realize this.
While I agree with what you said, I will add that this is the prime reason why they did what they did in NTTD to make it a standalone 5 film story arc.
They needed to close everything off and show the audience this interpretation of Craig's Bond is set within its own universe.
All those bad writing choices and continuity issue they made over the years to connect all the Craig films made it clear that they needed to do it.
By wiping the slate clean they can now get back to doing what they did for the first 40 years. Hence the customary James Bond will return in the credits.
I would love to see the producers, Craig or the director come out and say something about it but I doubt they will due to the fact that the film is creating so much discussion within the community and that can only be a good thing.
I think the risks they took in this entry work brilliantly. People hate change and to do something this bold is refreshing.
It's by no means a perfect film and a few aspects could be polished but for what we are getting on the big screen, I'm okay with it. So many fans are overthinking this issue IMO.
I just hope we don't have to wait another 6 years for the next one!
---> NEWS :
"EON STUDIOS KILLS JAMES BOND"
---> Joe Darlington :
"I loved this movie !"
---> Next Day :
"BEING JAMES BOND" rebranded as "REMEMBERING BOND" and Joe Darlington loses 90% of his subscribers and web followers and suddenly has more leisure time. 😁
It doesn't work for the same reason Spectre didn't work. You have to believe that Bond would give everything up for this woman he has no chemistry with and whom he barely knows. I found the repeated OHMSS references really distasteful, like they were trying to piggyback on that film's success, and it just reminded me that Tracy was a much better character than Madeline.
This is the review I've been waiting for. Personally I did not enjoy it and I'm now uncertain about the future of the franchise.
All great things come to an end sadly
Exactly my thought!
About choking Blofeld. Bond’s world was destroyed many times with Vesper and then with Madeline. I feel like most men would lose their cool around the man responsible for doing that to them
And don’t forget Judi D’s “M” dying…All due to Blofeld’s direct or indirect involvement.
I fail to see how Blofeld was responsible
@@strikerbowls791 Uhhh… did you watch Spectre?
@Jerry L It's from the novel You Only LIve Twice Bond says Die Blofeld Die as he strangles him in the basement of his Japanese Castle.
Too fucking right, well said!
Fleming never gave Bond a daughter. It's a quite awful film, time to move on...we have all the time in the world to make a proper James Bond film again, I can only hope.
the same thing as to how skyfall never existed in novel form
I loved the movie for its place within the context of the Craig era, and I respect it for all the risks it took. While it has its flaws, NTTD is the most enjoyment I've got from a Bond film since Casino Royale, so as an emotional movie experience I loved it and I'm very excited to watch it again.
That said, I do understand why many won't resonate with it, and I do think they need to course correct moving forward. I'd love to see them ditch the overarching story thing they were trying to go for, it didn't really add anything while taking away too much. Having a more human Bond worked really well, but I also want the fun elements of Bond back too. Bond is ultimately a fantasy spy adventure, I want to see more gadgets, more wild stunts, more crazy villains with maniacal schemes. I hope they find that sweet spot for the Bond franchise in the future.
100% agree with everything you said! Wow
Absolutely, I echo the exact same comments as well 😁
Nah it is okay for the next Bond actor/era to follow the Craig/Dalton route
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 yeh I agree with that, the Dalton/Craig portrayals are my favourite Bonds in terms of character - I want Bond to have that edge. I just want them to be balanced out with the right elements of the Bond formula, some of the Craig films, Quantum and Spectre specifically, felt like they were missing some of the fun that Bond movies should be having. NTTD brought it back to the right balance in that regard, with fun and thrilling action pieces that were simply a joy to watch.
@@JamesLynd I agree with Quantum, but you have to understand that this is still just the 2nd movie for Craig and the Bourne approach needs to be used as Bond was still a rough-around-the-edges kind of agent, also he was still grieving from Vesper's death that's why it is not applicable to insert "fun" elements on that movie. Have to disagree with Spectre, there's a right balance of fun and seriousness on that movie, but the 3rd act is problematic.
I was interested to hear your opinion on this movie. I've been a Bond fan from the Sean Connery era. I've pretty much enjoyed all of the incarnations, but (and I know you won't agree with me on this) I found the whole Daniel Craig era the least entertaining. I'd much more see the individual adventures than have everything stitched together in sequels. I thought all of the female characters in this film were excellent. I was somewhat apprehensive from the previews about the "new" 007, but I thought it was handled perfectly. Can't say enough good about Paloma, and thought the Madeline Swan character was a huge improvement over her presentation in SPECTRE. I doubt I will be watching this movie repeatedly because of the ending, and actually, it may be a while before I can thoroughly enjoy any Bond movie. Not a fan of killing off an iconic hero.
Me too, gone more and more woke, no fun or escapism. This one with a black female 007 and a gay Q......crap
I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts. This is definitely a film that's splitting fans.
I can't wait to love it or hate it lol.
@@crobeastness what did you think?
@@tripi7906 mixed. I loved the action set pieces. Some of the best action we have seen in the franchise. I love the locations so much in this one exception for the final bland island. I love the nods to On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I love the emotional beats. His relationship with Madeline is miles better in this entry than it was in spectre. I love the concept of having a daughter and what she brings. Anna de Armis was fantastic but her dress was way too revealing which I did not like. Well I liked it because she's very attractive but I did not like it because philosophically I prefer modesty.
Other things I did not like were a lot of the story elements did not make sense like why he all of a sudden didn't trust her in the beginning as an example. I also did not like the final villain in general and how he trivialised the existence of Blofeld.
Overall 8/12
These Daniel Craig Bond films are no good! It’s the writing and the stories and the ideas which are the problem. Don’t talk yourself into saying that you like a film that deep down in your heart you know is no good!
I don't understand why people love this movie, for me it's a abomination and it's unforgivable what they done.
exactly how i feel
@Jerry L The fact that Bond didn't get deconstructed and frikin dies!
@@EthanKnight97 also a romance that is actually believable and no goofy villain saying 'cuckoo, cuckoo' wtf
Hated it
Loved the review. Even though the movie didn't sit too well with me, it certainly was beautiful.
The biggest issue I had was just the fact that I felt down after watching the thing. It wasn't particularly because of something that happened in the movie. It just felt lifeless and tired with Bond sort of giving up.
You need to do a review with Scott on this one.
I think the first hour is a decent Bond film, then it becomes True Lies 2. I do not have to watch a movie more than once to review it. I think that is being used as a “convince myself” tool. I will see it again but I do not see my opinion changing. I believe the love some have for DC, mainly because of CR is clouding judgement. DC hijacked the last two films. Barbara could never tell him no. She let him break her father’s top commandments, no one actor is bigger than the franchise and stick to the formula.
exactly right. when somone says they'll watch it again as David did the other day, it's just to convince that they like it when they didn't
Films are works of art and are worth re watching to appreciate all the hard work put into it. Just walking past a painting and going 2 out of 10 feels lazy.
@@eabcool so you’ve never watched a film a second time? I try not to be a bully online but these two comments may be some of the most ignorant things I’ve ever read. Seeing a film twice is a trick to convince yourself? I think the trick is convincing yourselves that that statement is true.
Daniel Craig was not James Bond he was an actor playing James Bond, actors are replaceable, James Bond is not. The next time we see a “James Bond” movie, we already know, in the end, James Bond gets killed. That (kills) the entire fantasy of “Being James Bond”.
One of the worse bond films ever
The first 2/3rds were pretty good but the ending was very poorly executed. Not a great one overall. Can the next Bond film finally be a little less personal?
Great comment. Personal is how I would describe Craig’s arc. And that’s not what bond films are based on. It’s a great film, but NTTD for me is the furthest thing from a bond film.
So many plotholes. Such an idiotic ending. I cannot believe how many Bond fans just accept it and nod along. Guarantee four years from now when the new Bond comes out everyone raving about this movie will come out and say "Yeah that last Craig movie was shit right?"
NTTD is the Aston Martin DB5's finest hour. That car and scenes it featured in, were fantastic.
Too bad the whole rest of the movie minus Ana de Armas was a god awful convoluted mess
It's too overused
Goldfinger didn't even get to use the machine guns, except on a mirror.
I don't know why people feel the car is overused. We have sparingly seen it in 8 out of 25 films, mostly as a personal car without gadgets. Is the commercials where we see it the most.
Made me wished it was never in the trailers…would’ve made the experience even more awesome
I wasn't expecting you to like this movie anywhere near how much you actually did. Interesting.
I was pretty convinced he would like it due to all the OHMSS references and Fleming stuff. The way this film focused on Bond as a character felt very Fleming to me.
I didnt think he'd like it either! Glad he does though!
Yea I knew when the OHMSS references were made it was going to be his favorite or worst Bond film on dang near just that alone, ha... I think Joe has an irrational love for OHMSS, lol
Your review is almost identical to mine. I absolutely loved this film from start to finish. I get and appreciate the criticisms and rightfully so. This one ranks right near the top for me. It also already has a sentimental value to me in that I introduced my 9 year old son to James Bond this summer. This was his first Bond movie in theaters and our first together in theaters (obviously). I'm very certain he cried at the end. I'll happily admit that I struggled to keep it together especially at Q's reaction and his quivering lip. As a 9 year old who doesn't know the whole history and fandom as we all do, this one is currently in a 3 way tie for his favorite along with Skyfall and Goldfinger.
Is NTTD a good film? Yes, I guess... But, is NTTD a good BOND film? Definitely not.
I enjoyed the review. I don't think this was a horrible movie, but I wasn't particularly over-joyed with it either. I felt like, the goal was met... A good send off for Daniel Craig, and he can be proud on that and I'd rather this movie exist, than not. SPOILERS: But, I do think the sense of danger was far more pronounced in Skyfall (with his injury) or in Casino with Vesper's reaction to death, than we got here with the Superman Bond. Also, I thought there were far too many plot points that were under-developed. The new 007 had a very enjoyable friction with Bond, which felt like it was missing a 3rd act, after she suddenly gave him back his 007 designation after deciding she respected him suddenly. The Felix send off was good, but I really felt like he should have been at the Spectre meeting in Cuba kicking butt with Bond, instead of him being in a club and then getting shot in the next scene... I've met people that only watched the Craig films that were totally unaware who Felix was, or why they had a connection. The villain was setup great, but once again, lacked a compelling 3rd act, which ultimately made the death of Bond kinda weak, because I just didn't buy this was the guy that took Bond down. I totally agree the Blofeld stuff was nonsense, with more Blofeld telling us how evil he is, instead of the film showing us. The virus itself was a massive plothole.... If Bond was infected with the Spectre killing virus at the Spectre party, wasn't that enough to just kill Blofeld outright, or did Safrin remove Blofeld from the list? But... We needed a reason to reintroduce Madaline. Then there is this entire thing going on with Mallory, that he apparently created Hercules... WHAT??? Shouldn't Mallory be in jail? Did Bond die because Mallory is a moron? The film's need to have all these different plot threads resulted in none of them really being developed in a way that was as satisfying as it could have been, and some of them being disappointing, such as Moneypenny or Q having very little to do. Everything was good-to-okay, but very little was great. I mean, Bond died, and I'm not really sure what would have happened if he hadn't sacrificed himself because I have no idea what the villain's real plot was outside of killing random people for very little reason. I also found it very strange that Bond would fall for Blofeld's trap at the beginning... But, I'll buy it because the BEST part of this movie was the Madaline and Bond relationship, which I give them props, I hated that relationship in Spectre and they won me over here. I really was confused however, with the constant references to On Her Majesty's Secret Service, because... that just kept making me remember they retconned one of my favorite Bond films into non-existent. Not only did Tracy Bond die, she now doesn't even exist, and her theme music is now Madaline's? I guess you could make the case that Madaline is effectively Tracy Bond, and therefore, No Time to Die, has Bond sacrifice his life for her to live, but why not just call her Tracy? Given all the tech, and crazy stuff we've seen in prior Bond movies, I just didn't buy that the virus was permanent. All in all, it was a fun film, 7/10 as a Bond film, an 8/10 as an ordinary film, and miles better than Spectre or Quantum.... Mission accomplished!
Lost all my trust for David Z. Please do not disappoint me as well
@Jerry L lost respect for his opinions. Not him. Don’t share his views on the film or what they have done to the character.
@Jerry L of course you can. What are you talking about ?!
@Jerry L please read again what I wrote
I'm sure David Zaritsky won't lose any sleep with your disappointment he enjoyed the movie.
He's fully entitled to his opinion.
@@treadstone1970 well of course he is
I hated it!! The story had way too many holes! Many things made no sense!! How does Bond Return?? I don’t want a reboot as the reason!!!
The Bond girl from the last film is in this? I don't even remember her. I know I didn't like that movie, so disappointing that this is some kind of sequel. I wish Bond would go back to just stand alone.
I'm very surprised you think this was great Joe. You win if you enjoyed it and I wish I did. It's not just the ending though, so much wrong with this film. I didn't find the action that thrilling, and it was cut short. But its full of plot holess and the middle act is just like a soap opera full of emotions. Daughter aspect doesnt work. It was so poorly written. I bought all the mercandise for this film so you know im a huge 007 fan and hyped this film like crazy. I've seen it twice and will never watch again. Most unenjoyable and depressing bond film ive ever seen. Gun Barrel was appalling too. But most importantly, it didnt feel like a bond film. He couldnt be bond as we know him. Hated the script. Felt so forced in places, like when daniel says die blofelt, but i could go on for ages how much doesnt work in this film. They juggled with so much in this film that it felt like the film didnt even know what it was trying to tell in its story. I still dont even know safins motives and why he is doing it all, and i've seen the film twice. So upset and depressed all that wait for nothing. Worst film since DAD. Wish this was never made. Let's just spoil the whole craig era and blow up vespers grave and kill bond off, oh wait, it's daniels final film so lets kill all the spectre agents in one scene so its done and dusted, oh and lets kill felix and blofelf, what a joke of a film. Appalling and embarrassing film as a fan
Killing off Bond was definitely not a good idea To be a tribute to Craig is one thing but to kill off the main character seems to be nonsensical. I found NTTD to be a bit politically correct. I suppose things will only be clear when the new Bond comes out in the future, to see things in its proper context.
Really good review. I too dislike the heroic sacrifice trope in today’s movies. It’s too depressing and definitely felt out of touch for James Bond. Much respect to you and your channel 👍👍
Nah it's a good ending
Joe as a fan of your channel, having watched this review & the wonderful round table discussion on The Bond Experience all I can say is "shocking, positively shocking"! NTTD is a mess. Technically it's a marvelous achievement. Story & plot, a "D" minus. Very disappointing for me to say the least. My overriding question is where do they go from here? Is it possible to just wipe the slate clean & reboot up again? What say you 'head of section'?
Good movie, but the more I think about the ending, the more I hated it. I am not comfortable with what they did to Bond. 24 previous films conditioned me to a different fate, so while I get that this was the definitive ending to the Craig era, I just didn't like that. Bond always escapes!
For me it was a fantastic film with an awful ending.
SPOILERS!!!
The last thing I want to see in a Bond film is Bond dying. This is my favourite franchise. I love it since I have memory. And after this year and a half of pandemic and tough times, I needed to see my hero in a new movie. And I felt it failed me at the end. It gave me the most depressing and cruel ending ever. I left the cinema so down and sad.
And it´s a pity because I LOVE almost the whole rest of the movie (yes, Safin needed more). I watched a second time the following day, I enjoyed again a lot... until the end. My hero blown away with missiles. Come on! And now everytime I´ll watch NTTD, I will feel bothered by that.
And it´s not only that he dies. It´s also how he dies. Because he surrendered. He could have left that island, avoid contact with Madeline and Mathilde, live alone in Jamaica again, seeing his daughter grow up through skype, and just wait for a possible cure.
No, he just thinks "Oh, I can´t be near my love and my daughter... I prefer to die here." That´s not James Bond for me. I didn´t feel this betrayed since The Dark Knight Rises (again, other character I love doing the last thing I thought he would do).
Bond, Madeline and Mathilde in the car at the end. Why not? It would have been so great. The first James Bond movie with him retiring with a family. It would have been totally different that way too.
But no, we live in a time where the only great sendoff for a character is killing him.
Well said! Great film, bad ending. Had Bond been killed before much earlier, then maybe I can understand. But after 25 films over 60 years, he's the screen icon that ALWAYS survives! Now we don't have that over other franchises. And this will be forever know as "The one where Bond dies." Ugh.
@@tboyd5150 Totally. For me now it´s, first of all, "THE MOVIE WHERE BOND DECIDES TO DIE", and after that it´s "a great Bond movie". I don´t get it. That´s the feeling you want your fans to have?
It´s so difficult for me to place it in my ranking. In general it´s a better movie than Quantum and SPECTRE, but at least those movies doesn´t make me feel depressed.
100% agree!!
Well said.
Get Scott the GOAT on for a discussion soon.
Thanks for this. I am in the same dilemma. At the moment I have a nagging feeling that Craig became bigger than the character and demanded a way to show his full range.
Seeing @thebondexperience 2 year anniversary of NTTD I’m glad to see Joe’s support of the film . We were a bit shell shocked to walk out of the cinema to dead Bond but it was a fitting 007 moment 😊
A great 9/10 film until the end, drops to a 6/10 after what the makers pulled. Not happy at all of what they've done with a 60 year franchise.
So “Die Another Day” didn’t mark the start of your unhappiness with the franchise? Because, IMO, No Time to Die was leaps and bounds better of a film and pulled this franchise away from becoming a goof-fest that the franchise was headed towards at the end of Brosnan’s era. I think the franchise is going to be fine….more realistic storylines…unless we want the franchise to turn into Fast n Furious.
The movie went to shiz the moment Bond visits Madeleine and the daughter's there. Up to that point, it was pretty darn good. Ironically, Die Another Day was plagued by the same problem. The first half of the film is great, until invisible cars and snowboarding on tsunamis was introduced. The classic Purvis and Wade syndrome. I would die to be a part of the writing process, just to see what's so darn difficult about getting a story right! Every single film since 'The World Is Not Enough' has had problems with its screenplay. Truly unbelievable.
Bingo
Imho killing off James Bond (assuming he isn't actually dead and it's not a plot gimmick and he doesn't survive/return in Bond 26!) - was a very foolish mistake by Eon Productions.
1- Massively divisive amongst the fanbase. Killing off Bond has resulted in some fans very upset and feeling betrayed. Older fans have followed and supported the franchise for decades and killing Bond feels like Eon saying "screw you" to the fans. The producers don't care if their decision will upset older, long term fans.
2 - Disrespectful to the work and legacy of Ian Fleming and Albert Broccoli. Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson were bequeathed the Bond franchise. In terms of ownership they can do what they like with James Bond, but I would argue they have no moral right to kill off Bond to appease the selfish demands of the lead actor Daniel Craig.
3 - pointlessly ruining any semblance of continuity. Bond is dead in Bond 25 but magically back alive in Bond 26? Ridiculous.
4 - Arrogance. It's an act of arrogance for Daniel Craig to insist his return to the role is conditional on the death of Bond. James Page of MI6 James Bond fan site confirmed that information. Who is Craig to decide a fifty nine year old film character has to die?! Craig kills off Bond then leaves the franchise. He avoids any accountability.
5 - Unnecessary downbeat, depressing end to Craig's Bond era. Many fans have enjoyed Craig's tenure as Bond. Killing off his Bond is a weird way to bring his character/story arc to a conclusion. Hardly going to make fans think "wow, i invested fifteen years in this version of Bond, that was worth it!"
Killing off Bond is a nihilistic approach to the franchise. Life is kinda meaningless so let's make Craig's Bond era meaningless too.
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Did it confuse you when Bond was suddenly a young man earning his 00 status in Casino Royale?
Regarding point 3 - the Daniel Craig movies are their own continuity, anything that comes after will not be connected so his death in NTTD is irrelevant in tha regard. Why are so many people having a hard time understanding this?
That doesn't give Craig the right to kill off Ian Fleming's James Bond.
Every Eon Productions James Bond film states...
Albert R. Broccoli presents the actor as Ian Fleming's James Bond in....the title of the current film.
The Craig era doesn't state...
Albert R. Broccoli's Eon Productions presents Daniel Craig as alternative reality version of Ian Fleming's James Bond in... No Time To Die.
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I respect that you dislike the decision to kill off his version of Bond, it still doesn't mean that Bond can't be rebooted again. Different actor, different version of the character.
I think for this experiment of Craig’s Bond having a singular connecting story it makes a ton of sense for him to die. It’s gonna get rebooted probably going back to the disconnected one off stories where he can live on at the end. For Daniel Craig’s era this was perfect. A beginning, a middle, and an end.
There was no middle though! Craig's first two films are the very beginning of Bond's career as a 00. Skyfall is the next film, and he's already old and they're talking about retirement/obsolescence of the program. So they skip the entirety of his career.
They only decided to make it one connected arc with the garbage fire that is Spectre...and that film cheapens Le Chifre & Silva + made Quantum (the group) redundant. NTTD would've been better as a standalone style film, so it didn't have to tie up the loose ends with Blofeld, which ultimately had no real effect on the plot. Maybe they wouldn't have felt the need to kill Bond off in the most predictable/forced way either.
@@EEvtgShut up
We watch Bond for thrill and FUN, Not drama SO HAS to have somehow survived, self-exiled for any future film's threat to be threatening. EPIC fake out!!!👍👍👍
Some people just don't get it........ever.
Can someone explain to me the reason behind Safin’s plot to infect millions of people? What does “Tidy up” mean? And why did he just let Bond’s daughter go? I thought the film was brilliant but my biggest issues are around Safin, not the actual ending.
Strange how you said first hand that this film is "a work of art" and then you critcize it harshly (and rightly so) in the medium spoilers section. So it feels that in fact you did not like it but subconsciously do not want to admit. Am I too Madelein Swann-ing you right now ? 🤔😁
This movie was horrible and I'm a huge Craig fan. All the performances in NTTD felt phoned in, other than Malek. The score was by far the worst of the Craig tenure. The technology took a step backwards towards the days of Brosnan which made the whole movie corny. The directing was odd in my opinion, such as when to cut scenes and make transitions, the saturation levels made it look like a video game. NTTD actually made Spectre seem like an amazing movie in comparison and I was never even much of a fan of that one. The payout at the end of Bond dying barely even emotionally affected me; I cried more during Click. There's so much wrong with this movie, it never felt right the whole time I was watching.
I think this was an outrageous glorification of Daniel Craig. Cubby Broccoli has to be spinning in his grave.
Too emotional for my taste. I thought this was like "the notebook" of the Bond films. They should have released this for Valentine's day
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What is wrong with emotional? The amount of incels with this conclusion is worrying.
May I recommend The Terminator or Commando?
Its the typical demasculating of men characters in Hollywood, hopefully it loses money
Everything up until the island was top tier Bond for me, even with the little writing problems with the Blofeld scene which I actually didn’t mind his performance here as he had a bit more Hannibal Lector about him.
Even on the island there was some fantastic action and interesting twists for me. The only thing that let it down was Safin’s motivations outside of Spectre and Madeleine and why he was wanting to use the nanobots. I think the third act when Bond and Safin meet and are on their knees talking is where it should have been explained clearly rather than Safin ruining the twist that Mathilde is Bond’s daughter before Madeleine does so.
As far as the end goes it doesn’t bother me as I can now watch the Craig films as one continuous arc from a young 00 in Casino to his death here. It will make for an interesting binge watch for sure.
Perfect summing up Andy
Great comment... Can you imagine what this movie would be like and the BILLIONS it would make, if Bond arrives at the island, kills the bad guys, saves Maddy and his daughter, gets a lift from the British naval ship BEFORE the missiles are sent, and they are all seen driving together in the DB5 into the sunset with Madeleine saying to her daughter, "Let me properly introduce you to your father... this is Bond, James Bond."
But now... in the depths of this dystopian and soul-sucking KOVID KATASTROPHY they had to KILL JAMES BOND ! What disgusting GHOULS these peoducers are !
@@mr.bmt216a2 I am okay with the ending we got because it ends the Craig 5 film arc. Would I have liked a happy Hollywood ending? Yes, but I respect the absolute balls to go this route. The only thing I wanted more is Safin’s motivations about why he’s doing what he’s doing outside of revenge for Spectre and Madeleine.
It felt odd. He wanted revenge on Specter and got it, but where did they poisoning the world motivation come from? And why did they need to shoot the missles immediately?
Worse Bond film of all time.. a pile of 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 1% as good as Casino Royale.. Is their a go fund me for a screenwriter?
Seeing ALL Bond films at the theaters since 1973..
Look at (and listen to) how happy you! Glad you enjoyed it as much as you did! Now about that discussion........
Let's do it!
@@Beingjamesbond you and The Bond Experience need to do an epilogue to your the last Bond film of each actor is their weakest series.
Hey, you guys proposed "the last film of each Bond is the weakest"? Well, here's your proof! I had to watch 'Diamonds Are Forever' afterwards just to cleanse my palate! 👎👎
Watched it twice, fell asleep the first time and second time I gasped in horror....what have they done???? Can’t wait for your review!
Clown.
Very very disappointed with the film. It will be a long time, if ever, that I watch it again.
Think of it not as a Bond film but as a Die Hard film and it works.
Not a good Bond film for me . .
hey joe...well...i respect your initial reaction, however i didn't care for the film at all...and perhaps you are right that this is the perfect way to end the craig era, which has been more a soap opera than a spy franchise...if craig had played a different agent, perhaps the whole story thread would have worked and simply been o.k...but this wasn't just any secret agent...this was supposed to be bond, and it wasn't......and to end it all with louis armstrong simply made me cringe...that was a disrespect to the soing, the character of tracy, and the 'majesty' film itself....i await bond's return....thanks for always returning for us...peace always...rocky
As long as Craig is gone and the time line crap is over I’ll take it😂
Many reviewers highlight how good this film's esthetics and quality are just to hide to themselves and their viewers the simple truth...that as much as we hate to admit it this movie is a mediocre one at best. This review is not the exception (the host of this video is mentioning so many issues with NTTD and still calls it a great movie ☹).
Exactly it’s painful to watch these out of touch reviews. They’re trying to convince themselves. Bring back classic bond movies.
In ways of direction, acting, action, cinematography, locations etc. it was a very nice movie. But I totally disliked the plot holes, Safin's portrayal and questionable motives, Bond having a baby (!), the needless overuse of OHMSS music and first of all, Bond's death (!) which is combined with the death or destruction of every other classic Bond character (Felix, Blofeld, SPECTRE)!! Furthermore Q is portayed as a gay in a specific scene and Bond doesn't even flirt with Moneypenny anymore! Why all that?
Great discussion, Joe. I think in the context of what they did under Craig, it works and was a very good film. I'd say it's third for me of his five. That said, I don't like the Craig is special and needs his own universe, nor the way it ended necessarily. I guess they felt this was the natural conclusion but I don't like to see Bond like this and I hope never to again. I was with Q - get the hell out of there. So what would the worst case be? The bombs don't blow the place up? No one could follow up and blow it up later? He couldn't walk away and NOT see Madeleine or the kid or just zoom with them? I think it was unnecessary, but like you, I'm ok with it. After Spectre's retcon that everything was tied together, you throw up your hands. I HOPE for 26 we get back to proper Bond. I want a guy who is bad ass, loves being Bond, isn't dour, mopey and miserable or riddled with issues. His issues should be what Fleming wrote - he copes with his job and his possible death by throwing himself into life. He drinks to excess, smokes, chases the ladies, eats the best food, goes to the best hotels, drives the best cars. That's his outlet. While I have huge respect for what Craig did, his Bond seldom seemed to like being Bond. Not sure who the next actor will be but I'd do what they've done in the past and go 180 a bit and bring in something other than say Tom Hardy impersonating Craig. Whether that's Henry Cavill finally able to use his own accent and providing some of the lightness of The Man From Uncle and toughness of his MI role, or somebody else. I want a return to M handing him a folder and him carrying out a mission and being the guy the first 50 years of the films was. No multiverses or special treatment because Barbara has a crush on the actor, please. Like you, I'm sure I will evolve on how I feel. I've seen it twice and agree, when it was right, it was very right but definite things to criticize. I'll end with a few... Rami was a weak villain and his motivation for killing millions non existent; the garden of death is something I always wanted to see - that was a garden? Looked like a quarry more than a garden to me; Blofeld never handled properly in Spectre or this and his death unnecessary; Paloma was great but certainly felt like part of a different movie; and last, I miss Felix. They handled his death well but did we need three main characters to die in this? Props to OHMSS homage/twist. The best Bond film to me and any reference, especially by Eon who for whatever reason has always been ashamed of it, works for me.
Fleming wouldn't be happy with anything past Terrence Young.
How would you know?
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz Because I read them?
@@ethantoise4073 And that gives you the authority to claim to know what Fleming would think?
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz No, it gives me authority to have an opinion and offend you with it.
We need to hear Scott's opinion on this movie
"This is the last film in Craig's tenure. Does that mean we're allowed to do what ever we please and burn all our bridges?" The answer is no. Bond is a legend of fortitude and this film kills that legend. It was the ONE thing I didn't want to happen in this film. Other than that, my mind was wide open to whatever. It's such a betrayal to the audience b/c the previous Craig films set him up to be the legendary, invincible James Bond we all know and love and NTTD does a complete flip on it. And for what? To give a true sense of finality to Craig's era? A surprising emotional punch? I kept telling myself that they MIGHT kill Bond at the end before it came out, but I was foolishly optimistic in believing that they wouldn't be that meanspirited. I refuse to pay to see this film and will wait for it to be released on DVD so I can check it out at my local library for free. After that, I'll never see a new Bond film again. The legend is dead whether the franchise continues or not.
You are hating and complaining just because of THAT?! I just really can't understand this, it seems that you and others hating on the Craig era just want to hate on it without valid/substantial reasons.
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 I actually loved the Craig era for everything it did. And of course I'm complaining about the ending like there's no tomorrow. You don't seem to understand that the ending of NTTD is going to dramatically impact how we view future Bond films. The next time we see Bond in danger, we won't care as much because they already killed him once and you can't shock your audience a 2nd time.
@@LeonWick526 What?!!? The one that died is the Daniel Craig version. If there will be a new Bond, it will be a new actor and most likely it is another reboot. It seems that you're just creating problems because there are no problems at all. Did you also complain when Wolverine died in Logan and Iron Man died in Avengers:Endgame? Lol
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 I didn't see Logan or Avengers because I'm not a fan of either franchise. You're also missing the point, I know it's the Daniel Craig version who died. But now we see Bond as someone who can be killed and we never thought of him as someone who would be killed because he's written as an "exemplary of British fortitude." Bond's trademark is that he always finds his way out of tight spots and never gives up. You can reboot Bond as many times as you want, but you can't reboot the legend of the never-say-die secret agent. Don't bother giving me any crap about "this Bond is different b/c he's more human", etc. The character of James Bond is something you borrow and return in one piece. Not keep and destroy at your own leisure.
@@LeonWick526 Nah the Daniel Craig series just took the tragic route, and it was done beautifully, so there's nothing wrong with that. The movie overall has a good story, and you should appreciate it. Don't be a toxic and entitled fan that acts like a spoiled child.
Great first thoughts! Totally agree! Seen it 4 times now. The DC era is it’s own thing and this was the proper way to wrap it up with a bow. It is very Fleming. Ian would indeed enjoy the DC era. Cheers!
Joseph, I respect your reviews and I see your take. Hadn’t seen the film but spoilers don’t bother me. Killing Bond? It bothered me. But since Fleming nearly killed him, I think you’re right. He would appreciate this as a final tribute. What are your thoughts on how they handled Q? My issue with watching them all together is Spectre. It made Bond clueless as Blofield was behind the three previous films and Bond had no suspicion. Though, I am done with Bond. This caps it off for me. Thank you.
Nanobots were incredibly lame
Hello and greetings from a Bond fan in Poland! :) I'm very happy that you enjoyed NTTD. For me it was easily the second best Craig's approach towards Bond after Casino Royale. This Craig's 5-part miniseries is probably the first cinematic attend to capture the whole 'life cycle' of Bond from gaining 007 status (and even earlier with Skyfall's journey into the past) to his death and heritage. And btw I really love the last shot of NTTD as Madeline and Mathilde are entering the tunnel which clearly reflects entering the classic gunbarrel. It is a very simple and very effective summary for the whole franchise. Anyway thank you very much for this review and looking forward for the next discussions about NTTD!
Honest and positive review - thanks Joe. ........Not so sure about Joe saying lets get back to traditional Bond now...he's the man who reckons Octopussy is his favourite film 😨
I think you will change your mind. I also asked myself while watching: “Am I watching a Bond film?” The film made Bond too human, too vulnerable, too emotional, and that’s not movie Bond. If I wanna see that guy, I’ll look at my neighbor, my colleagues, or look in the mirror! I am the same age as the Bonds, and I want to see the tall, dark , and handsome Connery/Moore types who are invulnerable and provide all the fun elements of a parallel fantasy world - that’s why we go to the movies! Craig is a good actor, but never Bond to me, dull, dour, and just not fun.
---> It finally happened:
the Aston Martin DB5 actually STOLE the film away from the human actors. Hilarious !
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I won't go see this piece of garbage. My wife suggested we go see it, and I told her to forget it.
How can James Bond return? Is he coming back as a pile of Ash??? Why would I want to see James Bond killed and give up his will to live???
Did Roger Moore's 007 just give up and become lunch for the Crocodiles in LALD? Did Sean Connery's 007 just let himself and Fort Knox explode in a nuclear blast?
Audiences are throwing popcorn and soda during screenings in the UK..The movie flopped in North America, only 56 million. (after a 6 year wait) It's the lowest opening for a James Bond film. Vemon 2 made 90 million during a pandemic. The the first Vemon movie opened at 80 million (and the movie is so bad)
People hate No Time To Die. It's the "Last Jedi" of the Bond series." Let the past die, kill it if you have to" Look how that worked out for Disney Star Wars.
Spoilers ahead..... Why not leave some doubt as to whether our hero survives at the end? That would have been a much better ending..... And why kill off Felix?......why?
At the bottom tier with Die Another Day, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Octopussy, and possibly the worst of them all. Started promising but went south after Ana de Armas left and they completely wasted Felix's death (thought we were about to get a great Licence To Kill-esque revenge mission, but it was just lame). Everything on the island was awful, his death included, and Bond having a kid ruins Bond.
I bloody new BOND FILM NO TIME TO DIE THE FILM IS A A LONG FILM 📼 WITH LAST ONE WITH MR DANIEL CRAIG AS JAMES BOND MY FAVOURITE BOND IS DANIEL CRAIG JAMES BOND,,,,,,,
There is a line where I believe Tanner (???) says Blofeld would only speak with Swan...
Didn’ t feel like a Bond film in the least… it SUCKS in every possible way, and the ending is the last straw. No self-respecting Bond fan will be anywhere near happy with this maudlin, sorry-ass piece of cinema. My advice to one and all: save your hard-earned sheckles for the next Mission Impossible.
Warning, plot reveal and analysis below...
As Bond fans we didn't attend the cinema, we attended a Red wedding. Our favourite spy was killed in front of us and we applaud? No. This film is a fundamental betrayal of everything James Bond stands for. He is an archetype, the hero, a story as old as time, good prevails over evil, from our earliest childhood, we've heard countless variations of this story. A story where both the hero and villian are defeated does not fit this tradition.
It's not Bond. It's not cricket. The people responsible for this film are the exact same people Bond would be fighting against.
This will not stand. Good will prevail.
Aahh..another so called critic who's pretending but does not want kill jobs in LA..in 30yrs of me watching.this only movie I fell asleep twice..liar..the action in movie same as trailor..meaning this movie was scam on fans.motorcycle scen seen in trailor is really the only action scene total movie delivers..no way this bull shit movie cost 250million.expect to see fuji open his own production company,same as Sam medes..shame on you Barbra boccoli..
Awesome thumbnail Joe -
You look about as cool here as you could possibly look!
looking forward to your view on this one -
For better or worse - good or bad
It’s definitely not your average Bond Movie, that’s for sure lol!!
This film was 6/10 at best. Craig stopped being bond and and just played himself. Why was it necessary for blofield to be poisoned when bond already had the nanobots to kill spectre off? How could they not know where she lived ? The Norway scenes Craig is dressed like himself not bond. It’s like a cape... the scenes with the blast doors are dumb. Nomi was great. Why the writers have to have Craig’s bond lose and fail at almost every last battle is beyond me...
Not that i want to defend this thing, but they didn't program the nanos to kill blofeld since he wasn't at the party. A better question is where Safin got Blofeld's and everyone else's DNA since he apparently needs that. And they did know where Maddeleine lived, that's why Ash was in Norway and Nomi followed him there.
@@ethantoise4073 CR was the only good movie out of this era. these writers have to steal archetypes from Christianity, use Masonic symbols in all of these films its pathetic. Can they write a story at all without plagiarism? Do they have any original ideas of their own? How many times can they tell the same story? and Craig’s bond fails in every one of them.
@@vilhamdutch2962 Quantum and Skyfall were ok, but yeah Bond series is done. 23 films they had a good run.
@@ethantoise4073 yea quantum was terrible. Sky fall is okay I’ll be honest it’s at least re-watchable. Quantum’s villain and henchman were both completely terrible. The plot was about “water” honestly its not even worth a view at all.
@@vilhamdutch2962 Quantum - except the action was better than skyfall if you don't blink, skyfall has weak action aside from the pts and the climax, and has the only real bond girl craig got besides vesper. Controlling the water was more about gaining political influence, it wasn't like he was going to sell the water to the dirt poor civilians like Joe thinks but i can see how the editing made it seem that way. The subway bombing sucks and was done better in Die Hard 3
The "Only" real issue I have with the Craig Era Bond is him being emotionally duped by all his Love interests'.. Other than that I'm partial to his gritty take on the Character..