The Black Metal Iceberg

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  • @anonymous._.euronymous._.1349
    @anonymous._.euronymous._.1349 3 роки тому +1706

    Just gonna leave this here
    Sorry if I messed up the spelling or forgot an artist.
    Tier 1 Alcest
    Summoning
    Deafheaven
    Wolves in the Throne Room
    Harakiri for The Sky
    Tier 2 (Any band from Norway)
    Mgła
    Watain
    Dissection
    Marduk
    Dark Funeral
    Sargeist
    Horna
    Tier 3 Blasphemy
    Revenge
    Beherit
    Damaar
    Naked Whipper
    Tier 4 Blut Aus Nord
    Deathspell Omega
    Diapsiquir
    Jute Gyte
    Mamaleek
    Tier 5 any in the Les Legions Noire
    Mutiilation
    Vlad Tepes
    Obskiritatem
    Black Cilice
    Sortilegia
    Moonblood
    Xasthur
    Leviathan
    Tier 6 (The Nerdy Shit)
    Abruptum
    Sutekh Hexen
    Semen drenched slave of the Devil
    Emit
    check out Enbilulugugal too

    • @anonymous._.euronymous._.1349
      @anonymous._.euronymous._.1349 3 роки тому +26

      I think the band in the thumbnail is Weakling in case someone was interested(its wolves in the Throne Room, idk why I thought it why I confused it for the weakling logo)

    • @Sayujinse
      @Sayujinse 3 роки тому +12

      Thank you! I'd been researching as I was listening. But for the life of me, I couldn't figure out diapsiquir and black cilice lmao

    • @dethronedemperor
      @dethronedemperor 3 роки тому +59

      Props for mentioning Enbilulugugal. They fucking slay

    • @eyesontheinside5776
      @eyesontheinside5776 3 роки тому +5

      eh idk why i dont like sutekh hexen, its just okay. Maybe try gnaw their tongues

    • @danielrobleto479
      @danielrobleto479 3 роки тому +12

      @@dethronedemperor I worked with Dustin from enbilulugugal before he died last year for my latest release. iamdeadsmiles58.bandcamp.com/track/lonely-goat-corpse-ft-enbilulugugal

  • @someshkadam2441
    @someshkadam2441 3 роки тому +1754

    Black Metal Surface Level itself is a deep abyss in the music world.

    • @derrickbonsell
      @derrickbonsell 3 роки тому +242

      Hell it's a deep abyss just on the Heavy Metal Iceberg.

    • @redstone-kg3ne
      @redstone-kg3ne 3 роки тому +14

      @@derrickbonsell true

    • @ozzlayer
      @ozzlayer 3 роки тому +88

      And it should be left alone and never disturbed.
      🤘⚰💀🐐🐐

    • @emrysthefirst7778
      @emrysthefirst7778 3 роки тому +20

      not really

    • @WretchedOne666
      @WretchedOne666 3 роки тому +13

      The slam side isn't any shallower

  • @cherrypopscile3385
    @cherrypopscile3385 3 роки тому +820

    Still waiting for "Man hitting a guitar into a trash can while screaming Satan at the top of his lungs" metal, entirely recorded on a 1995 phone answering machine.

    • @user-od8yh8xs9u
      @user-od8yh8xs9u 3 роки тому +66

      are we sure merzbow hasnt done this?

    • @nochthitus9397
      @nochthitus9397 3 роки тому +46

      Just so we're clear, does it have to be metal trash can or will any old material do? I'm asking for a "friend" with a "project"...

    • @jornvonkehler7017
      @jornvonkehler7017 3 роки тому +23

      Trve Kvlt

    • @MisstressMourtisha
      @MisstressMourtisha 3 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣

    • @KartKrasher
      @KartKrasher 3 роки тому +15

      Go listen to Impaled Northern Moonforest

  • @spookbuster4862
    @spookbuster4862 3 роки тому +571

    I only clicked on this to get some new bands into my rotation, didn't expect to learn as much as I did about my favorite subgenre. Good work man.

  • @chrisistopher
    @chrisistopher 3 роки тому +409

    I'm from Lebanon and I was very pleasantly surprised to see Damaar on here, you were spot on about how overly religious this country is. Great vid btw, earned my sub

    • @dread-cthulu
      @dread-cthulu 3 роки тому +6

      Much respect!

    • @chrisistopher
      @chrisistopher 3 роки тому +7

      @@dread-cthulu Thank you!

    • @occultus284
      @occultus284 3 роки тому +13

      @@chrisistopher yooo man im from Lebanon too

    • @chrisistopher
      @chrisistopher 3 роки тому +8

      @@occultus284 happy to see other lebanese people in the community

    • @occultus284
      @occultus284 3 роки тому +3

      @@chrisistopher yep, follow me on Instagram if you want so we can get in touch more. Occultus.666

  • @skade245
    @skade245 3 роки тому +411

    Honestly I’d switch the war metal and experimental tier around, war metal is far less accessible and more obscure than deathspell omega.

    • @rufussamsquanch_6547
      @rufussamsquanch_6547 3 роки тому +15

      Agreed

    • @skade245
      @skade245 3 роки тому +21

      @@rufussamsquanch_6547 Especially since we have bands like Abigor and Deathspell omega as well as blut aus nord etc being widely talked about compared to necroholocaust for instance.

    • @artyomkurakin3393
      @artyomkurakin3393 3 роки тому +28

      It's very individually imo. For me bands like Bölzer, Pseudogod, Archgoat, Teitanblood, Grave Miasma, Adversarial, Vassafor are far more accessible than any single Deathspell Omega post Infernal Battles song..

    • @justin2597
      @justin2597 3 роки тому +4

      @@artyomkurakin3393 agreed, I think these are way more head bang worthy than Diapsiquir or Mamaleek. Yeah, I get that since Bestial is more raw it’d be next to the “Necro” tier but I wouldn’t say it’s less accessible than the Oddball tier

    • @fabriziogarreta7400
      @fabriziogarreta7400 3 роки тому +5

      yeah war metal is way more intense then death spell

  • @wewuzwolves4428
    @wewuzwolves4428 3 роки тому +238

    Darkweb Black Metal = perfect description of Emit. The music sounds like the picture looks.

    • @tyshred9251
      @tyshred9251 3 роки тому

      Rofl yes

    • @Nightgaunt616
      @Nightgaunt616 3 роки тому +3

      Check out Portal

    • @wewuzwolves4428
      @wewuzwolves4428 3 роки тому +9

      @@Nightgaunt616 I'm checking them out now. They're definitely "out there" but in a good way. I wouldn't consider them "Darkweb" since they lack that "creep out" factor that will ruin your high (note to self: NEVER listen to Emit while blazed).

    • @ryanwilliams1803
      @ryanwilliams1803 3 роки тому +10

      But the thing is Emit really ISNT BM its black ambient! no metal passages

    • @eyehatenikki
      @eyehatenikki 3 роки тому +5

      @@wewuzwolves4428 i just listened to emit stoned and my ears are melting

  • @SinizterOfficial
    @SinizterOfficial 3 роки тому +432

    What about depressive black metal or “DSBM?”
    Silencer, Austere, Exiled From Light. You mentioned Xasthur and Leviathan but yeah. Haha sorry I don’t mean to sound like an elitist but that is definitely a subgenre of black metal that has a fairly large listener base.

    • @devonrobinson2182
      @devonrobinson2182 3 роки тому +61

      I was waiting for it too, was surprised to see Xasthur in the raw section.

    • @HopefulNihilist
      @HopefulNihilist 3 роки тому +18

      I wish I could enjoy Silencer... and it pains me that I can't.

    • @SinizterOfficial
      @SinizterOfficial 3 роки тому +5

      @@HopefulNihilist why can’t you?

    • @HopefulNihilist
      @HopefulNihilist 3 роки тому +30

      @@SinizterOfficial
      The vocals.
      I don't consider myself to be picky, but I just can't get used to them. And believe me, I tried.

    • @eoinspelman9840
      @eoinspelman9840 3 роки тому +9

      Elite taste my friend

  • @quorthonsinferno5119
    @quorthonsinferno5119 3 роки тому +77

    An iceberg for black metal that I haven't seen that before

  • @TerminalM193
    @TerminalM193 3 роки тому +20

    Just found your channel. Been looking for a rather underground knowledge type channel such as yours for awhile now and you totally fit the bill for me. Without going into too much more high praise, I appreciate the way you lay out your explanations. Most places come off very linear like they're reading straight from a script but I can tell no scripts probably ever needed for you because the time and knowledge is that deep. Ty man! Currently going through your catalog as well as anticipating new vids!

  • @noaroos6115
    @noaroos6115 3 роки тому +228

    Ulver and Agalloch would also fit pretty damn well in tier 1 I think

    • @c.s.charles2102
      @c.s.charles2102 3 роки тому +8

      -and pretty much any band with a pagan theme.

    • @mmoviefan7
      @mmoviefan7 3 роки тому

      yes yes yes

    • @dread-cthulu
      @dread-cthulu 3 роки тому +11

      Ulver - Bergtatt is a rite of passage in my opinion.

    • @heavymetalfishingla
      @heavymetalfishingla 2 роки тому +1

      Id also say Apati

    • @jw7500
      @jw7500 2 роки тому +6

      Everything they made that is not Nattens Madrigal. That record in particular is a bit rough for the uninitiated.

  • @jdjdbsjyyyy
    @jdjdbsjyyyy 2 роки тому +11

    Bro I recently found your channel and Im in love. I turned my ad blocker off for you lol. Its everything Ive ever wanted in a metal channel. The format, the tidbits of backstory with some bands (but not so much that it detracts from the music), etc...are all fantastic. Please dont detract too much from the whole "sitting in a chair infront of records spitting knowledge" format. One suggestion is you could add the bands you mention in your description. Other than that, keep on keeping on. Ill plug your channel as much as I can on the various metal subreddits.

  • @firmament1325
    @firmament1325 3 роки тому +8

    Just started getting into Black Metal! Saving this one, this looks like it'll be really helpful.

  • @electrik_loss
    @electrik_loss 3 роки тому +32

    Normally I don't like these iceberg videos, as I think they're pretty overdone, but this one was actually engaging. Good stuff!

  • @purplereigninblood
    @purplereigninblood 3 роки тому +39

    Thanks for bringing up Xasthur and Leviathan/ Lurker of chalice.

  • @yungwxiner4226
    @yungwxiner4226 3 роки тому +94

    Don’t know how I ended up here cuz I listen to rap music but this was an interesting video, ill probably check out these bands now.

    • @FounderofGoogle
      @FounderofGoogle 3 роки тому +13

      Start in tier 2

    • @huggiedistance
      @huggiedistance 3 роки тому +6

      What rappers do you like? I'm currently getting into rap from metal and punk.

    • @yungwxiner4226
      @yungwxiner4226 3 роки тому +12

      @@huggiedistance u should prolly listen to City Morgue/Zillakami, maybe sum scarlxrd. It really all depends on what ur lookin for, if ur lookin for metal or at least harder soundin rap then I’d say those 2. I like a lot of underground street rap but idk if you’d like it cuz obviously we on a black metal video

    • @huggiedistance
      @huggiedistance 3 роки тому +2

      @@yungwxiner4226 hell yeah man, I love city mourge and scarlxrd, I'm actually mostly into thrash metal and the band anthrax had a huge relation to early gangsta rap. Public Enemy and NWA are some of my favorite rap groups.

    • @huggiedistance
      @huggiedistance 3 роки тому +1

      @@yungwxiner4226 but I would love some more street rap suggestions.

  • @mirrorreaper3545
    @mirrorreaper3545 3 роки тому +95

    Master's Hammer album in the background, nice

  • @ConvincingPeople
    @ConvincingPeople 2 роки тому +14

    I absolutely adore Jute Gyte! His recent records Oviri and Mitrealität in particular are some of the most impressively composed and uncompromising extreme guitar music out there with some really fascinating, alien riffing and incredibly imaginative production. Also, all respect for bringing up Diapsiquir. Definitely one of the oddest black metal acts I've listened to, peculiarly charming in this super off-kilter way. The way that you described them was absolutely on point.
    Incidentally, funny thing when you compared Sutekh Hexen to Prurient: I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but Dominick Fernow is in several black metal projects, including Departure Chandelier and Ash Pool (whose song "Holocaust Temple" has some incredible melodic vocal work). Guy seriously gets around.

  • @HittokiriBattousai17
    @HittokiriBattousai17 2 роки тому +1

    Loved the video, so much information, and so well explained. Thank you for such short yet well thought-out analysis.

  • @timpatz1994
    @timpatz1994 3 роки тому +1

    thank you for the Damaar suggestion! been looking for something like this (similar to one of my favorite CDs, Slavia's Strength and Vision) THANK YOU.

  • @TheMetalTempestYT
    @TheMetalTempestYT 3 роки тому +5

    Think I'm going to make a response video just adding on some points of this. Really well put together stuff!

  • @heeebeeegeeebeee
    @heeebeeegeeebeee 3 роки тому +13

    I really enjoyed this video. One thing that surprised me was that the avant-garde / dissonant stuff was below the "war metal" tier. I'd say that Beherit is much less accessible than Deathspell Omega, at least to my ears. Great video though!

  • @no.stache.nietzsche1635
    @no.stache.nietzsche1635 3 роки тому +130

    Great point about Damaar- I love that "legitimate"/lived experience coming through music. Makes such an impact, even when the chops aren't apex. Throwing it out there about Revenge- living/growing up in the same area as them, I very much get the same feeling about Revenge. I don't know them personally or anything, and perhaps I'm projecting, but I feel like their music bleeds the discontent of Alberta very specifically

    • @MoonlightRitual
      @MoonlightRitual 3 роки тому +9

      As an Albertan, this is true.

    • @muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675
      @muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675 3 роки тому +5

      As a Lebanese dude, I agree

    • @muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675
      @muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675 3 роки тому +10

      Lebanon isn't as bad religiously as he describes it tho lmao. They wouldn't have been killed for their music (mostly because it was underground) but still. The drummer went to australia and converted back to islam is the version I heard. And I think the vocalist was in a thrash band called nightchains which I recommend you check out

    • @Mia-rl7lb
      @Mia-rl7lb 3 роки тому +1

      @@muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675 yoo what's your ig

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  3 роки тому +10

      @@muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675 well I said that cause ive heard so many people say they got "death threats" from their music thus which is why they fled to Australia.

  • @captainahab1533
    @captainahab1533 2 роки тому +131

    I got dragged into the genre by Al-Namrood. I think their very unique approach to the genre makes them a really good starting point. Both through the folk elements like the utilization of the arabian scale and traditional arabic instruments as well as through the more accessible style of their current vocalist Humbaba (since "Heen Yadhar Al Ghasq"). Also I never met anybody - metalhead or not - who wasn't interested in taking a listen to their music after learning that their from Saudi-Arabia and could literally be executed for their music.

    • @punkjay4681
      @punkjay4681 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for adding a new band to my playlist :)

    • @junesuprise
      @junesuprise 7 місяців тому

      We never met but I’m not interested. Sounds “clickbaity” if you know what I mean.

    • @punkjay4681
      @punkjay4681 7 місяців тому

      ​@junesuprise who you never met and wtf are you talking about 😂 why would someone who you don't know be interested about you not being interested in something?

    • @junesuprise
      @junesuprise 7 місяців тому

      i was refering "Also I never met anybody - metalhead or not - who wasn't interested in taking a listen to their music after learning that their from Saudi-Arabia and could literally be executed for their music."@@punkjay4681

  • @ayoutubechannel1499
    @ayoutubechannel1499 3 роки тому +488

    top of the ice berg MAYHEM bottom of the ice berg MAYHEM background story

    • @a.r.i.a5003
      @a.r.i.a5003 3 роки тому +139

      i think the background story is pretty mainstream , i mean even people who dont listen to black metal know about the whole varg vikernes stuff

    • @ayoutubechannel1499
      @ayoutubechannel1499 3 роки тому +38

      @@a.r.i.a5003 hahahah Varg..... well he's a MEME now.... so yeah its pretty mainstream...... agreed

    • @derfgerps4016
      @derfgerps4016 3 роки тому +13

      All Mayhem is insanely good

    • @Beeraltar
      @Beeraltar 3 роки тому +2

      @@a.r.i.a5003 top of the ice berg Mayhem story. Bottom of the iceberg The ToF

    • @rlaw1971
      @rlaw1971 3 роки тому +7

      Mayhem is the drizzling shits.... just pure unadulterated crap..

  • @MoonlightRitual
    @MoonlightRitual 3 роки тому +35

    I've had that Damaar record since Hell Headbangers got copies back in 2007, it's one of the jewels in my collection. Good video Wyatt, interesting premise, and a good execution.

  • @maxsmith-xo2xp
    @maxsmith-xo2xp Рік тому +2

    Cool. I love these iceberg videos. Very well done and deep explained. My favorite subgenre of metal is black metal and its a deep dark abyss to get into.

  • @MrTheKamir
    @MrTheKamir 3 роки тому +54

    5:27 I commend you for pronouncing mgła correctly, haven't heard many people even try

    • @JacobA666
      @JacobA666 3 роки тому +2

      I used to literally call them “Magla”. Until I got to know a polish friend who told me it’s “Mgła”. Literally, no other syllable than the A, and the L is pronounced weirdly.

    • @demoskoval
      @demoskoval 3 роки тому +4

      @@JacobA666 Ł is pronounced like english W, eg. White, biały, ławka, wow, łał

    • @FingeredCrosses
      @FingeredCrosses 3 роки тому +4

      if only you wrote 'commend' correct when complimenting someone on their pronunciation lol

    • @whitewizard1914
      @whitewizard1914 2 роки тому

      @@JacobA666 well Magla has the same meaning as Mgła, just a different language

    • @JacobA666
      @JacobA666 2 роки тому

      @@whitewizard1914 what do you know.. linguistics are amazing :)

  • @blainray723
    @blainray723 3 роки тому +88

    Another one that could be on tier 6 is stallagh. It's a project formed by some guys who work at an asylum and they convinced the people in charge to let them record the patients screaming as a form of therapy. You can kind of hear some riffs and drums in the background at points, but it's mostly just screaming. It's just really hard to listen to.

    • @diamondobsession7551
      @diamondobsession7551 2 роки тому +17

      not really black metal though its legit just noise is all it is

    • @dylanroemmele906
      @dylanroemmele906 2 роки тому +7

      Nah the Stallagh is just some edgelord nihilists from lebannon and the netherlands lol the whole story is a marketing trick.

    • @22tfortnitevevo
      @22tfortnitevevo 2 роки тому +2

      its not black metal its more in the harsh noise genre

    • @22tfortnitevevo
      @22tfortnitevevo 2 роки тому

      @am i a pseudo intellectual? yes or no i mean yeah but pure misanthropia has like 0 black metal influence whatsoever

    • @22tfortnitevevo
      @22tfortnitevevo 2 роки тому

      @am i a pseudo intellectual? yes or no ?

  • @palbo4
    @palbo4 3 роки тому +9

    I feel honored to have been able to give this the 666th like haha.
    Also for the oddball tier I think I'd personally add Todestoss, I don't feel like they get mentioned enough. They're totally nuts and fascinating. For the raw tier I think I'd add Nihill and Novae Militiae. I don't know, maybe they're not essential but they're some of the best in my eyes
    Great video! Lots of bands I'm excited to check out after watching this

    • @ConvincingPeople
      @ConvincingPeople 2 роки тому +1

      Holy shit, another Todesstoß fan in the wild! I think they keep the five or so of us apart so we don't breed and further poison the gene pool…

    • @elliotspencer5300
      @elliotspencer5300 2 роки тому +1

      @@ConvincingPeople do not worry we shall hunt you down, it has been foretold, you will not poison thy gene pool. We are ancient we have always watched you.

  • @NJMike
    @NJMike 3 роки тому +16

    I'm really glad you gave Jute Gyte a mention; he is one artist I never hear anyone speak or know of. I actually listen to all of his styles he makes, sometimes his chaotic black metal, sometimes his ambient glitch stuff really hits the spot if I crave something less stimulating.
    Have you ever heard of the band Wold? I feel like they could have had a mention under your Dark Web Black Metal tier. They are basically harsh noise with Donald Duck or Eric Cartman on vocals. It's some nasty, scathing shit. But it's oddly relaxing to listen to?
    Also, perhaps Gnaw Their Tongues could have been another band for this tier as well? More of that experimental, nasty dark black metal stuff.
    Nice video though, I enjoyed it.
    P.S. You may have gotten me interested in Sutekh Hexen. Also, I actually love Deafheaven, and I used to listen to Alcest.

    • @ryanwatts7817
      @ryanwatts7817 2 роки тому +1

      The microtonal album ship of theseus is one of my fav8

    • @ryanwatts7817
      @ryanwatts7817 2 роки тому +1

      Also I love escatalogical scatology by gnaw there tongues

  • @nephalianshores
    @nephalianshores Рік тому +32

    Emit's music isn't all noisy. They (he?) has also released some Dark Ambient stuff like Spectre Music Of An Antiquary (which is actually quite relaxing to listen to, if you can believe it). Also, one of the guys who played in Emit has got a Roman Catholic Black Metal band called Reverorum Ib Malacht, which is every bit as weird and odd, though much less noisy. I must admit though, it's weird (but welcoming) to see people outside the UK know about Emit. Tier 6 could basically be called the Todestrieb Records roster, as we have a fair few of these weird, oddball noisy Black Metal bands, such as T.O.M.B., Extinction, Basilisk, and The Tyrant of Manchester (yes that is the band name)

  • @formrkelse3138
    @formrkelse3138 3 роки тому +40

    Since you talked about Damaar n religion: there's this anti-islamic black metal band called Janaza. It's a musical project by an Iraqi woman (who, in fact lives in Iraq, how brave). Pretty good stuff.

    • @JohnDiabol
      @JohnDiabol 3 роки тому +4

      I thought that band was debunked as a hoax some years ago.

    • @formrkelse3138
      @formrkelse3138 3 роки тому

      ​@@JohnDiabol Oh, I didn't know that. But, whether that's true or not, the music still slaps.

    • @JohnDiabol
      @JohnDiabol 3 роки тому +6

      @@formrkelse3138 I'm definitely always up for some anti Islamic black metal.

  • @KILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILL
    @KILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILL 2 роки тому +9

    LLN and the associated acts is what really drew me into black metal as a teen. Sure I had listened to some Gorgoroth, some Carpathian Forest, and even some Darkthrone, but nothing compared to the LLN. I was too young to really appreciate all of it, but the "gems" I found kept me coming back time and time again. I only like them more as I grow older too. They really provide some next level darkness. Top tier BM to this day.

  • @sugargutz745
    @sugargutz745 3 роки тому +2

    I am starting to get into black metal...this video helped me allot! Thank you kind sir :)

  • @patrikvesely2139
    @patrikvesely2139 2 роки тому +1

    Appreciate that Master’s Hammer - Ritual LP in the background🤘🏻

  • @poetryonplastic
    @poetryonplastic 3 роки тому +35

    Yes, Alcest are such a great place to start for most. I've played their records for a few friends and everyone found them beautiful, even if they didn't like metal in general.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  3 роки тому +14

      One I didn’t mention that’s similar to Alcest but easily my favorite for the style would be “Lantlos”
      Their album “Neon” is perfection and that balances out shoegaze and black metal to a near perfect even degree.

    • @heavymetalfishingla
      @heavymetalfishingla 2 роки тому +2

      Id also say Les Discreits or however you spell it

    • @kentucky1519
      @kentucky1519 Рік тому

      Alcest is just plain calming for a lot of songs I mean try and do a full length cover of "sur le ocean couler de fer" without accidentally carrying yourself into an almost hypnotic sleep. It's perfect

  • @Skult-yd2fq
    @Skult-yd2fq 2 роки тому +4

    I'm more the deathcore/deathmetal guy, but this video was very interesting to listen to. Thank you!

  • @MrPepepe666
    @MrPepepe666 3 роки тому +20

    Once I listened a track from WITTR with my mom and she dig it. She said the music was awesome, but didn't get the shouting vocals. So, yes, Wolves is pretty much Tier 1

  • @shreerampanth6889
    @shreerampanth6889 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for breaking this down, I've been wondering lately what the limit for darkness would be, and I think I found it

  • @kristofbe1
    @kristofbe1 2 роки тому +5

    Great list. I got to know some interesting new bands, especially in the lower 2 tiers.
    Here are some of my additions:
    Tier 1: Panopticon, None, Agalloch
    Tier 2: Judas Iscariot (American so doesn't fall under the anything-from-Norway category)
    Tier 2.5 (Crust punk): Drakthrone (later), Wolfbrigade, All Pigs Must Die, Oathbreaker, Black Breath
    Tier 4: Imperial Triumphant, Krallice, Oranssi Pazuzu, Liturgy, Thy Catafalque (they may also go in Tier 1), Sigh
    Tier 6: Stalaggh (if you want to still call that black metal or, you know... music)

    • @Grapesoda-is7ti
      @Grapesoda-is7ti Рік тому +1

      Liturgy is literally layer 1 stuff

    • @jpaulcrosby
      @jpaulcrosby 10 місяців тому

      Strongly agree with your tiers, @kristofbe1 - also, never heard of None, so I’ll be checking them out!

  • @mariog4095
    @mariog4095 Рік тому +1

    Great vid! Learned a lot of new things about my favorite metal sub genre.
    Out of curiosity, where on the Iceberg would you put the more accessible avant-garde bands like Krallice and Spectral Lore?

  • @luciferthemorningstar101
    @luciferthemorningstar101 3 роки тому

    Yo big props for covering this, black metal on the internet is so polarizing to discuss

  • @jackloves8008s
    @jackloves8008s 3 роки тому +3

    I'm so thankful this video has been uploaded. Do you have any videos reviewing all your records? I would love to see something like that.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  3 роки тому

      I have a playlist for my vinyl collection

  • @mistdrinker6479
    @mistdrinker6479 3 роки тому +8

    If you want noise with a black metal vibe listen to Hurqalya by Sacrificial Totem. This release in particular was dubbed "blackest ambient metal" and while I don't think there's enough black metal influence in it to be placed in this list the discussion of noise at the end made me think of it.

  • @joaomatoshon
    @joaomatoshon Рік тому

    Right on! Just found this channel.. let the binge watching begin

  • @demonia7259
    @demonia7259 3 роки тому

    nice video dude 👌🏻 thoroughly enjoyed this

  • @willyk-fv6ok
    @willyk-fv6ok 3 роки тому +5

    You should do the iceberg on all genres!!

  • @dungcheeseMORK999
    @dungcheeseMORK999 3 роки тому +15

    Satanhartalt is a group that you could consider to be Tier 6 black metal. Being a black noise, it is very eerie and dark, super raw, I love it. It's like exploring a Medieval hell (the art on their tapes gives that vibe).

    • @Sanguivore
      @Sanguivore 3 роки тому +1

      Appreciate the recommendation!

    • @vulnikkura
      @vulnikkura Рік тому

      Thanks man

    • @Koraxus
      @Koraxus Рік тому

      is this dungeon synth?

  • @mike3eofthel985
    @mike3eofthel985 3 роки тому

    I would put those later havohej albums in the tier 6 list section or somewhere up there. Cool video, i wasn't expecting someone to do a good black metal iceberg list!

  • @CooKJaY9
    @CooKJaY9 9 місяців тому +2

    I can't see anyone talking about Mamaleek. I feel you 100% how you seem mesmerized trying to give off an impression of what they music is; it's the most creative thing i have heard in my music life. It is so rich, so deep, the way their wright their songs is something i have never came accross in any genre. it's clearly a demonstration of music as an art.

  • @absentience2776
    @absentience2776 3 роки тому +21

    I'm also wearing a Triumvir Foul shirt today. #twinning

  • @melkor5901
    @melkor5901 3 роки тому +3

    I'd say tier 1 in my favorite tier, lots of nostalgic love for tier 2, tier 3 is just... meh closest thing I like in that category MIGHT be Inquisition but that may be more tier 2, tier 4 has some great stuff there, tier 5 also great, tier 6 is legitimately alien to me, as much as I like challenging music, I like music, not the electrical interpretation of schizophrenia, which sounds cooler than the music actually sounds like.
    Great vid! I am looking forward to checking these out.
    Shout out to these underrated bands:
    Alter of Plagues
    1914
    Ash Borer
    Crafteon
    Bufhimat
    Elegiac
    Ellende
    Firelink
    NONE
    Nordicwinter
    Pan- Amerikan Native Front
    Panopticon
    SAOR
    AEvangilist
    Cairn
    YMIR
    SPIRIT PROCESSION
    Non Opus Del

    • @gagacrazy10
      @gagacrazy10 2 роки тому +1

      1914 are awesome, I’ve been listening to them a lot lately.

  • @gabrielknight5726
    @gabrielknight5726 2 роки тому

    Great video. I always liked the atmosphere of abrumptum, since the 90s.I never thought of them in the sense you described.

  • @rrensaa
    @rrensaa 2 роки тому

    Sick Triumvir Foul shirt, dude. Subscribed!

  • @_drunk_in_paris_
    @_drunk_in_paris_ 3 роки тому +7

    Welp thanks for givin’ me new bands to listen to, delving into tier 6 lmao.

  • @ashkandi1337
    @ashkandi1337 3 роки тому +12

    IT, the founder of Abruptum, also had a band called Ophthalamia which was amazing. Definitely worth checking out.

    • @mariozd971
      @mariozd971 Рік тому

      Ophtalamia, they are great on their first album vocalist was Jon from Dissection, on later albums Legion from Marduk

    • @ashkandi1337
      @ashkandi1337 Рік тому +1

      @@mariozd971 I particularly love the second one

    • @Agalloch1234
      @Agalloch1234 7 місяців тому

      @@ashkandi1337I thought I was the only one!

  • @spazmak666
    @spazmak666 3 роки тому +1

    really dig this video. don't know shit abt black metal but it's cool seeing it getting broken down into six "types" that actually delves into the subject further than "guy screams in his car for 40 minutes and makes a 4 hour long black metal project with it"
    my only gripe with this is that it feels like a band recommendation video and not really an iceberg. it'd take a small group of seasoned fans to pull together a berg covering not only notable bands, but also historical events like controversies, tropes like shithouse quality black metal, injokes and practices and common beliefs in the scene, all sorts of shit, and then ranking all that shit by obscurity. it would be super sick seeing something like that, but its understandably a shitload of work

  • @Drazwin
    @Drazwin Рік тому

    Great video really enjoyed the info and your personality. You just got a new sub

  • @maschienle328
    @maschienle328 11 місяців тому +4

    It’s so beautiful to see how many insanely talented and creative people black metal has gone on to inspire

    • @MooSaidChicken
      @MooSaidChicken 11 місяців тому

      Amy examples? I'm actually curious

    • @Dawn95284
      @Dawn95284 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MooSaidChicken Igorrr

  • @tedesco7219
    @tedesco7219 3 роки тому +4

    A big suggestion for tier 6:
    German band Dawnfall with their album Drei Räume

  • @hbc431
    @hbc431 2 роки тому

    found some great bands here mate thanks! really enjoying Abruptum its so raw and dark

  • @frankrosen4915
    @frankrosen4915 3 роки тому +1

    Didn't expect you to mention diapsiquir! First time i've ever heard someone talk about them in a video, very cool!

  • @wiblet
    @wiblet 3 роки тому +11

    Me: (backing up a forklift) i'll take the whole berg, thank you

  • @charbelalsahlani5566
    @charbelalsahlani5566 3 роки тому +3

    I am from Lebanon and I really admire the fact that you dedicated around 4 min just to talk about Damaar! Horns to you dude \m/

    • @occultus284
      @occultus284 3 роки тому +1

      Yo man im also from Lebanon

    • @charbelalsahlani5566
      @charbelalsahlani5566 3 роки тому

      @@occultus284 Awesome! You're in a band?

    • @occultus284
      @occultus284 3 роки тому

      @@charbelalsahlani5566 i wish

    • @occultus284
      @occultus284 3 роки тому +1

      @@charbelalsahlani5566 im looking for band mates, i want to start a War metal band that’s exactly like Damaar vocals

    • @charbelalsahlani5566
      @charbelalsahlani5566 3 роки тому

      @@occultus284 What instrument do you play?

  • @DaleCooper1101
    @DaleCooper1101 3 роки тому

    Great video, man!

  • @jiesus2596
    @jiesus2596 3 роки тому

    Man. Ur list gave me chills. Thanks for bunch. Confirmed Sub here.

  • @infinitedeath4567
    @infinitedeath4567 3 роки тому +12

    You can articulate very well

  • @sean5572
    @sean5572 2 роки тому +5

    I seem to be a strange case, as I managed to end up on both ends of the black metal ice berg without really crossing into the middle. Very shortly after being shown Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Bathory, etc, I somehow found Dead Before Death by Emit. Can confirm, basically noise. Interesting noise, gut wrenching noise, but noise.

  • @dergrosseeierman
    @dergrosseeierman 3 роки тому +1

    Wyatt, if you would include every black metal band out there, this video would be 6 hours long. Great video nonetheless. 👍
    Im definately all about tier 2, 3.
    4 not at all.
    5 im into again. Havent touched much on tier 6 yet.

  • @weegeethedog
    @weegeethedog 3 роки тому +7

    22:02 Prurient (Dominck Fernow) is a member of Departure Chandelier credited as Fanalis

  • @mr.clownbaby1435
    @mr.clownbaby1435 3 роки тому +10

    Interesting take on describing Black Metal. My introduction albums were, De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, In The Nightside Eclipse and Opus iv back in the mid 90s. Pretty well upon release. Still a few of my favorite albums. Like Summoning a lot. Earlier Summoning was not so atmospheric. Prior to De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, almost all Black Metal was recorded in "tin can" style you mentioned. Varg had a video on UA-cam where he explains this. Don't know if it is still up considering they took down his videos. He basically says the "tin can" recordings were anti pop music. Clean was seen as mainstream. Abruptum for the most part is definately noise. But they do have a few good songs. They are actually capable of playing their instruments.

  • @reesemalo
    @reesemalo 3 роки тому +14

    I've never been so excited to learn lol

  • @Imjustchris1975
    @Imjustchris1975 3 роки тому

    NGL, listening to Sutekh Hexen now and this is fire. Thanks!

  • @CoolMetalWorrier
    @CoolMetalWorrier 3 роки тому +33

    Sounds like you're describing Saudi Arabia rather than Lebanon. Lebanon is one of the more liberal countries in the Middle East. Although, you can't get too liberal in the Middle East-that's true

  • @NeroAngelo616
    @NeroAngelo616 3 роки тому +17

    sunn o))) have occasional tier 6 moments. *ducks. Axis Of Perdition scrapes into 6 occasionally too.

  • @steveparish4209
    @steveparish4209 3 роки тому +6

    Not a fan of the music but I observe it as a form of entertainment. Black metal had its heyday in the '90's and early 2000's. But there are so many artists now and they're all so similarly wired (to my ears) it's hard to really tell one from the other. IMO extreme music is heading in the direction of non-genre specific metal. Bands like Meshuggah are doing things like taking thrash music and adding truly extreme blendings of percussion and guitars with unique vocals. Or Portal took death metal to an atmospheric place, a la norwegian black metal. Their music is truly chaos, something most bands require horrific visuals to attain. Again, not something I can sit there and listen to but fun to observe how this form of art is evolving from the sidelines.

  • @AndrewBrown-fq6vp
    @AndrewBrown-fq6vp Рік тому

    Great video bro, I think you were spot on with your tiers. And a big thanx for Naked Whipper! I listened to Painstreak and got fucking goose bumps!

  • @FabianRWhite
    @FabianRWhite 2 роки тому

    Great video. I would very much recommend Vessel of Iniquity too, one of my favourite discoveries of last year.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  2 роки тому

      Of that’s some intense shit ! I’m pretty sure I still got his demo on vinyl

  • @googlekrishna7025
    @googlekrishna7025 3 роки тому +2

    Yo. Been digging Blasphemy for a while. Thanks for the heads up with Naked Whipper. Shit is brutal! This is a really good list. I’m happy you spoke about deathspell without the, you know, um, stuff that has nothing to do with the music. Props for that. Question: where on the list would Portal and Wold be on?

    • @jv0516
      @jv0516 11 місяців тому +1

      Although he already featured Portal in his death metal iceberg video, he could also put Portal in the oddball tier. So, in a sense, Portal is oddball blackened death.
      I could put Wold in the deep web tier. I could feature some other related bands to Wold such as Gnaw Their Tongues, Enbilulugugal, Ahulabrum, Mnima, Utarm, and a few others. Some very authentic underground bands such as Tritonchasm, Wheel of Sickies, Mhnunrrn, and Baxbakwalanuxsiwae.

  • @noahperez185
    @noahperez185 3 роки тому +5

    Another few projects that could fit in the bottom tier could be Grausamkeit, Witchmoon, Friedhof, and Paysage D’Hiver.

  • @Sayujinse
    @Sayujinse 3 роки тому +45

    Any chance we can get a list of these bands mentioned for looking up purposes? Thank you!

    • @skeletalremains8555
      @skeletalremains8555 3 роки тому +6

      If you haven't seen it already, there's a pinned comment at the top with all the bands mentioned

    • @Sayujinse
      @Sayujinse 3 роки тому +2

      @@skeletalremains8555 I did see it! Thanks for the thought to reply!

  • @JohnYannoulas
    @JohnYannoulas 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know if these kinds of "tier lists" have any kind of meaning in the age of free-circulated information. My first BM experience was Ultima Thulee and To Cavirs, and then I moved on to more "popular" ones like Summoning and Eldamar to end up discovering more of the genre later.

  • @tlepsh_band
    @tlepsh_band Рік тому +1

    Awesome video.
    Damaar is a really good band. I myself was in a thrash metal band in Lebanon around the same time they were active.
    I'm asking a few of their friends about any updates.. I'll let you know if I get anything.
    Thanks for reminding me of them. Also, deathspell omega fuckk, stuck on them now.
    Cheers

    • @tlepsh_band
      @tlepsh_band Рік тому +1

      Yo. I got an answer from a direct old friend.
      They became religious 😑

  • @RallyFumo
    @RallyFumo 3 роки тому +8

    Oh hey you even used the iceberg graphic that I personally made like a decade ago. Its weird to see that keep popping up.

  • @leetorry
    @leetorry 3 роки тому +5

    I had no idea you got yourself a blackout tattoo, looks good on you too.

  • @Karen-vf8no
    @Karen-vf8no Рік тому +1

    Never in my life have I enjoyed black metal but I’m excited to give some of these bands a try! I’ve heard random inaudible black metal in the past and just wrote it off, but ima try to do this the right way this time🤘

  • @freakinslayer3259
    @freakinslayer3259 3 роки тому +20

    R.I.P Damaar

  • @skade245
    @skade245 3 роки тому +6

    We also have MZ412 which is like if Abruptum met more traditional dark noise with the general feel of burzum

    • @kristofferlien311
      @kristofferlien311 3 роки тому

      burzum will never be outdone. It was one man posessed with greatness

  • @LL-vy5bj
    @LL-vy5bj 3 роки тому +57

    I feel like S T A L L A G G H should be there somewhere, probably in a seventh tier

    • @sulentiu2374
      @sulentiu2374 3 роки тому +4

      eight tier and silencer or diagnose lebensgefahr

    • @newpalane1159
      @newpalane1159 3 роки тому +4

      I would put some of the dsbm bands on the 7th or even the 8th tier

    • @draevonmay7704
      @draevonmay7704 3 роки тому +1

      Projekt Terrror was a... it was a ride

    • @genuinelyhorrible6373
      @genuinelyhorrible6373 3 роки тому +1

      i feel like the occasional instrumentals feel more noise-grind, no?

    • @madisonrtapia
      @madisonrtapia 3 роки тому +2

      I thought he was going to bring up them in the last tier because you really can’t understand anything expect for screaming children

  • @ratatoeskr-melodicdarkambi7741
    @ratatoeskr-melodicdarkambi7741 3 роки тому +1

    You made a great video there. I could use the names typed down, cause, as a non native i have problems understanding some names of the more obscure bands.

  • @angelc.4422
    @angelc.4422 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome list man. I think that one of the most batshit projects i have listened in a while is Tsalal. Just a total madness drenched sonic obliteration. I knew them listening to Tetragrammacide, like if that wasn't enough.

  • @LordWormFeedMeWorms
    @LordWormFeedMeWorms 3 роки тому +19

    "Necro Black Metal"
    Malaise - Bringer of Destruction
    The most stripped down to the bones black metal demo out there. 1 riff per song

    • @c.s.charles2102
      @c.s.charles2102 3 роки тому

      Luftwaffe Raid
      Satanic Funeral
      Obehag
      Lethal Diabolic
      Durthang
      Nad

  • @MafusTV
    @MafusTV 2 роки тому +8

    Actually, the band that made me love black metal was Mutiilation. As soon as I heard Transylvania I knew this genre is something magical...

    • @ApiolJoe
      @ApiolJoe 7 місяців тому

      I remember how claustrophobic Rites Through the Twillight of Hell felt when I was still discovering BM (long ago). This demo is still something extremely fascinating to me, even though I must be one of the only person to like this demo given how they could barely play their instruments at the time lol. But the production and smothering of the sound was so perfect in creating the atmosphere...

  • @TurboImperator
    @TurboImperator 2 роки тому +1

    hey does anyone know the background song? The link in the description doesn't work anymore

  • @markusnyman6897
    @markusnyman6897 3 роки тому

    Havent watched the video fully, but do you know these bands, archgoat and goatmoon

  • @lightyagami1435
    @lightyagami1435 Рік тому +18

    For me it was the opposite about the raw black metal. I always thought that this genre should sound like this and therefore, it became my favourite. I love the haunting atmosphere that raw black metal produces.

    • @ApiolJoe
      @ApiolJoe 7 місяців тому

      Yeah, I am under the impression that it is the essence of black metal, and the other genres are more about experimentation or finding other ways to express this, giving rise to extremely different things.
      That being said, I've been into BM for so long now that I totally understand that newer fans may be put off by how barebones this stuff can be. Also, production quality has improved massively since then and as such it's very understandable that people may have a harder time than before to get back into this. (Also, I'm not a snob: it's a good thing production quality went up as it allows some stuff that wasn't really possible before. Good production quality can help enhancing brutality or specific feelings in ways that weren't possible before, overall helping to expand what black metal can be).

  • @captaincool2453
    @captaincool2453 2 роки тому +21

    Recommended updates:
    Level 1: Summoning: Just the first record "Lugburz" which is actually BM, Would add Venom and Bathory to a certain extend too
    Level 2: Unanimated, Ancient Rites, Keep of Kalessin, Evol, Anaal Nathrakh, Necrophobic, Decameron, Satanized, Impaled Nazarene or more contemporarely: Sarastus: Enter the necropolis
    Level 3: Belphegor, Mor Dagor, Forgotten Woods, Pest (both from SWE and from NOR),
    Level 4: Abigor (especially "Fractal Possession"), Dodheimsgard, Mysticum (the first album)
    Level 5: Nargaroth, Judas Iscariot, Katharsis (Germany), Graveland, Satanic Warmaster, Urgehal,
    Level 7: There are plenty of those who just release cassettes or limited EP - Sombre Records from Germany were famous for releasing such bands
    Level 8: Tape traded shit like the "Chainsaw gutsfuck" demo from Mayhem on tape.

  • @nadinew.2616
    @nadinew.2616 10 місяців тому +1

    Emit makes my heart beat again 🖤🔥

  • @annafridrichova9014
    @annafridrichova9014 3 роки тому +1

    Greetings from Czech Republic! Master’s Hammer Rituál is such an amazing album.

    • @adamtichy8008
      @adamtichy8008 2 роки тому +1

      heh, projížděl jsem kvůli tomu komentáře