Wow 2 pieces of mind blowing information.....The part about becoming adjacent after the tinkerer plays the card.....and the Plus 2 still is in effect.....and how potent portables uses 1 charge for the entire action not one charge per heal on the same action.Keep up the amazing content my brother!
When we started Gloomhaven my friend wanted to play the tinkerer so badly. I wanted to play the scoundrel. Everyone on the internet was saying, this is nearly the worst combo.. We did it nevertheless and it was great!! He tried to be adjacent a lot or summoned his stuff to be adjacent to me, so I could do quite a lot of my positioning stuff, which is not easy with 2 player. He gave me my discarded cards back most of the time at the end of my 1st rest cycle! It was sooooo good. He also got good crowd control and healing actions. I missed the tinkerer so hard, when he retired and I exhausted so often after that... XD
Yeah I love Tinkerer too! Not sure exactly what it is but always had a soft spot for him and at very early level and low prosperity actually quite good.
Nice to see a tinkere video. I actually played most with tinkere in different groups. It is a great class to choose if you are the experienced player with new players. You can stay back and judge the situation. And you can really do alot of burst damage on lower levels until you group has learned to play. Combine ink bomb with minor power potion googles and piercing bow and even high shield enemies will melt. Piercing bow as a use once item to me suits the tinkere perfectly.
Ignore both level 8 cards and instead get Curative Aerosol at level 7, then Murderous Contraption (7) at Level 8. There are so many situations where both of those cards are great. You can even use the two in combo. Yesterday the scenario needed us to kill one more foe as fast as we could. So I moved 4 steps, cured myself 8 (with potent Potables), opened a door, and threw an attack 4 at range 3. The heal allowed me to survive the counter-attack.
You are so right! Not my first mistake and definitely won't be my last lol. Still a great card though, lots of powerful small items to refresh. Thanks for commenting and if you haven't already go ahead and subscribe, lots of mostly error free content coming out!
One of my special roles as Tinkerer is taking out foes with high shields. Very often you encounter demons with crazy shields but five or less health, and many times I managed to hit 2 of them with a Disintegration Beam. In addition I use Piercing Bow for this purpose, which I often use on Crank Bow or any high damaging card.
As i understand, currative aerosol is four actions so it consumes two charges of potent potables. Update: checked the rules, your statement is correct.
Yo I love you Gloomhaven videos. I'm about to reach the end of JOTL & I'm stoked on starting a campaign on the OG Gloomhaven with my wife & I have decided to play as the Tinkerer as long as she chooses a hard hitter.
Great video! I just finished Jaw of the Lion by the Demolitionist and decided to start the origin Gloomhaven by Tinkerer. It's funny that the 2 characters I choose all ranked low in your Tiers video lol. But I do notice that the average strength of classes in Jaw of the Lion is lower than the origin.
At level 3 with my Tinkerer, I removed four -1 cards and substituted the -2 for a 0. That means I have one -1 and one critical miss. When I spend 10 gold at the Church, I now have 3 crits in a deck of 18. With the goggles and an ink bomb, I did 20 damage. Crit, crit, hit. 8 plus 8 plus 4.
@@neuralnetgames6540 My brother is playing the Brute and is ridiculous. He is armored to the core and is insane. He did a move where he jumped into a group, armored up, added retaliate and then stopped. When the enemy attacked he did at least 10 plus damage in retaliation and took 0 damage!!!
Murderous Contraption Always take it for the bottom. It's is your only non loss attack after level one ans it's a good one. I like the combo of Toxic bolt and this. I suggest taking Aerosol at level 8
Thank you for your comments. I think your insight about tinkerer in a four player group is very close to what I am finding. The key to a really strong tinkerer is understanding what your group needs and cards they like to play. I synch up volatile concoction with frost armor and it works really well, where others have just dismissed the card for the most part. Right now I have the boots of striding but am eyeing the +/- 10 priority boots-have you given them a go with tinkerer?
I have played Tinkerer for about 20 scenarios and I am just sick of him. He just doesn't increase his power as the levels go up, and you cannot combo yourself. I am level 8, the highest in the group and I am underperforming. The thing is: you have the largest hand so you can do almost every support-ish thing, but you don't excel in nothing, and if you play the tinkerer well (as I do most of the time, because I often review myself ) you make your allies shine, rather than shining yourself. So, I think that it is a character that doesn't shine and has no strategy because can do everything at any time because of the 12-card handsize. If I wasn't one kill away of retirement, I would have let it go 10 scenarios ago.
You should be fine. Tinkerer can tank as well as the Brute due to higher hand size and more healing. Either way you will do well, especially if you are at low prosperity and low character levels Tinkerer can do pretty well.
That was actually my initial choice but I kept reading about tinkerer being weak in a 2p party. But he's got a flamethrower, how cool is that? Thanks for the advice. Love the channel btw.
... But the warhammer is not a "purse" item? And where have you read that two separate heals with a move in-between are only moving the token on PP once?
Yep, I definitely got the refresh consumed small item wrong! However potent potables applies to the entire heal action which is one half of the card. Here is the link, with official answer from Isaac, the game creator. boardgamegeek.com/thread/1726227/tinker-potent-potables-x-restorative-mist-1 Hope that helps clear it up and thanks so much for commenting! If you haven't yet please consider subscribing, lots more content coming out!
@@neuralnetgames6540 Yeah, but i didn't buy that big beautyful box just to play it online. Got a team, and it is fine, but wish I had like three teams! And we will never finish before Frosthaven at this pace ... Are you in the FH kickstarter?
@@madskirkthgersen762 Yeah fair enough! Yep, no way I was missing out on Frosthaven... Can't wait! Especially the base building part. I love games like XCOM, so it's right up my alley!
well so I watched both videos on the tinkerer and now I am confused ;) in the normal video you say Disintigration Beacon for Potent Potables, Noxioous Vials and murderous Contraptions. In this one you say Gas Canister and Curative Aerosol used with Potent Potables.???? I haven't played yet and I need a good start next week ;)
hey there i realy like your videos saw most of them , i play tinkerer since in most of the rpgs i play i want to help instead of just choping things , plz share an full analyze of tinkerers build if you do not mind thank you
@@neuralnetgames6540 i got one more question i am trying to find an item on hands for tinkerer to fill all my slots and i can not find any (i do not care about spoilers ) is there any that you like more ?
Second video in a row that has incorrect rules. Noxious Vials only refreshes small items, not two-handed items like War Hammering or anything else. Please edit your videos.
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Wow 2 pieces of mind blowing information.....The part about becoming adjacent after the tinkerer plays the card.....and the Plus 2 still is in effect.....and how potent portables uses 1 charge for the entire action not one charge per heal on the same action.Keep up the amazing content my brother!
Thank you!!
could have been worded better I guess, something like: for 1 round every ally standing in range 1 does +2 dmg
When we started Gloomhaven my friend wanted to play the tinkerer so badly. I wanted to play the scoundrel.
Everyone on the internet was saying, this is nearly the worst combo..
We did it nevertheless and it was great!! He tried to be adjacent a lot or summoned his stuff to be adjacent to me, so I could do quite a lot of my positioning stuff, which is not easy with 2 player.
He gave me my discarded cards back most of the time at the end of my 1st rest cycle! It was sooooo good.
He also got good crowd control and healing actions.
I missed the tinkerer so hard, when he retired and I exhausted so often after that... XD
Yeah I love Tinkerer too! Not sure exactly what it is but always had a soft spot for him and at very early level and low prosperity actually quite good.
Nice to see a tinkere video. I actually played most with tinkere in different groups. It is a great class to choose if you are the experienced player with new players. You can stay back and judge the situation. And you can really do alot of burst damage on lower levels until you group has learned to play. Combine ink bomb with minor power potion googles and piercing bow and even high shield enemies will melt. Piercing bow as a use once item to me suits the tinkere perfectly.
Totally agree! On lower levels Tinkerer is actually quite good. Thanks for commenting and if you haven't yet please consider subscribing!
Pure support, but when it is a harsh start the guy is the savior.
Ignore both level 8 cards and instead get Curative Aerosol at level 7, then Murderous Contraption (7) at Level 8. There are so many situations where both of those cards are great. You can even use the two in combo. Yesterday the scenario needed us to kill one more foe as fast as we could. So I moved 4 steps, cured myself 8 (with potent Potables), opened a door, and threw an attack 4 at range 3. The heal allowed me to survive the counter-attack.
Or even whichever level 5 card you didn't take.
Noxious Vials will give you back a BAG item, not a weapond
You are so right! Not my first mistake and definitely won't be my last lol. Still a great card though, lots of powerful small items to refresh. Thanks for commenting and if you haven't already go ahead and subscribe, lots of mostly error free content coming out!
One of my special roles as Tinkerer is taking out foes with high shields. Very often you encounter demons with crazy shields but five or less health, and many times I managed to hit 2 of them with a Disintegration Beam. In addition I use Piercing Bow for this purpose, which I often use on Crank Bow or any high damaging card.
nice idea
I really enjoy your methodical delivery. Really well done! This is my favorite class in the game. Thank you for making this. Wonderful video!
As i understand, currative aerosol is four actions so it consumes two charges of potent potables. Update: checked the rules, your statement is correct.
Yo I love you Gloomhaven videos.
I'm about to reach the end of JOTL & I'm stoked on starting a campaign on the OG Gloomhaven with my wife & I have decided to play as the Tinkerer as long as she chooses a hard hitter.
Great video! I just finished Jaw of the Lion by the Demolitionist and decided to start the origin Gloomhaven by Tinkerer. It's funny that the 2 characters I choose all ranked low in your Tiers video lol. But I do notice that the average strength of classes in Jaw of the Lion is lower than the origin.
lol I do love the Tinkerer though even though he's a bit underpowered! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for the guide !
Thank you for the clarification on potent potables. I had been using that card wrong. lol
No problem, happy to help. So many little things like that in Gloomhaven!
Awesome guide cant wait to implement these ideas
At level 3 with my Tinkerer, I removed four -1 cards and substituted the -2 for a 0. That means I have one -1 and one critical miss. When I spend 10 gold at the Church, I now have 3 crits in a deck of 18. With the goggles and an ink bomb, I did 20 damage. Crit, crit, hit. 8 plus 8 plus 4.
Awesome, I love it! Thanks for commenting and if you haven't yet go ahead and subscribe as I am putting out new guides every week!
@@neuralnetgames6540 My brother is playing the Brute and is ridiculous. He is armored to the core and is insane. He did a move where he jumped into a group, armored up, added retaliate and then stopped. When the enemy attacked he did at least 10 plus damage in retaliation and took 0 damage!!!
Murderous Contraption
Always take it for the bottom. It's is your only non loss attack after level one ans it's a good one. I like the combo of Toxic bolt and this.
I suggest taking Aerosol at level 8
Tinkerer was my favourite early class
Tinkerer has a special place in my heart lol
Thank you for your comments. I think your insight about tinkerer in a four player group is very close to what I am finding. The key to a really strong tinkerer is understanding what your group needs and cards they like to play. I synch up volatile concoction with frost armor and it works really well, where others have just dismissed the card for the most part. Right now I have the boots of striding but am eyeing the +/- 10 priority boots-have you given them a go with tinkerer?
They work fairly well with tink due to not great initiative and tink having a fair amount of control type stuff!
I know you have kinda moved on from these videos but have you tried putting wound on the top of reviving shock?
Lay proximity mine, use hook gun to pull an enemy into it, with a good modifier you can obliterate.
Amazing :)
Lvl 3 Tinks tools is not so bad. Create stun trap with bottom and then pull monster into it with Hook gun top. So this stupid ooze does not split :D
that does work!
The thing is, most character can stun a monster with only one action, you don't have to expend bottom part and top part
I have played Tinkerer for about 20 scenarios and I am just sick of him.
He just doesn't increase his power as the levels go up, and you cannot combo yourself. I am level 8, the highest in the group and I am underperforming.
The thing is: you have the largest hand so you can do almost every support-ish thing, but you don't excel in nothing, and if you play the tinkerer well (as I do most of the time, because I often review myself ) you make your allies shine, rather than shining yourself.
So, I think that it is a character that doesn't shine and has no strategy because can do everything at any time because of the 12-card handsize.
If I wasn't one kill away of retirement, I would have let it go 10 scenarios ago.
Yeah Tinkerer really struggles with scaling!
Should I change out my brute and pair tinkerer with spellweaver instead? Or would that be too squishy?
You should be fine. Tinkerer can tank as well as the Brute due to higher hand size and more healing. Either way you will do well, especially if you are at low prosperity and low character levels Tinkerer can do pretty well.
That was actually my initial choice but I kept reading about tinkerer being weak in a 2p party. But he's got a flamethrower, how cool is that?
Thanks for the advice. Love the channel btw.
... But the warhammer is not a "purse" item? And where have you read that two separate heals with a move in-between are only moving the token on PP once?
Yep, I definitely got the refresh consumed small item wrong! However potent potables applies to the entire heal action which is one half of the card. Here is the link, with official answer from Isaac, the game creator. boardgamegeek.com/thread/1726227/tinker-potent-potables-x-restorative-mist-1
Hope that helps clear it up and thanks so much for commenting! If you haven't yet please consider subscribing, lots more content coming out!
@@neuralnetgames6540 I just might ;) Not much GH community in DK. So I take what UA-cam can give.
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@@neuralnetgames6540 Yeah, but i didn't buy that big beautyful box just to play it online. Got a team, and it is fine, but wish I had like three teams! And we will never finish before Frosthaven at this pace ... Are you in the FH kickstarter?
@@madskirkthgersen762 Yeah fair enough! Yep, no way I was missing out on Frosthaven... Can't wait! Especially the base building part. I love games like XCOM, so it's right up my alley!
well so I watched both videos on the tinkerer and now I am confused ;) in the normal video you say Disintigration Beacon for Potent Potables, Noxioous Vials and murderous Contraptions. In this one you say Gas Canister and Curative Aerosol used with Potent Potables.???? I haven't played yet and I need a good start next week ;)
hey there i realy like your videos saw most of them , i play tinkerer since in most of the rpgs i play i want to help instead of just choping things , plz share an full analyze of tinkerers build if you do not mind thank you
Thanks for watching! more specific builds will be coming in the future, as long as they get enough interest!
@@neuralnetgames6540 i got one more question i am trying to find an item on hands for tinkerer to fill all my slots and i can not find any (i do not care about spoilers ) is there any that you like more ?
So don't play the Tinkerer and Mindthief with 2 players like me.
Second video in a row that has incorrect rules. Noxious Vials only refreshes small items, not two-handed items like War Hammering or anything else. Please edit your videos.