I've been told by someone who should know that the biggest difference between the US and the UK is funding and toys. The individual soldiers would fit in either unit, seamlessly.
And I know from the SBS that in Iraq they used their own mobiles to detect Sunni locations because they realised that terrorists needed mobiles. The Americans would have used a Satellite or something more expensive. There’s an old historian story about the space war 50 years ago. The Americans spent thousands of dollars to create a pen, the Russians used a pencil…….and I hate Putin.
SAS has better soldiers and has more freedom to adjust and innovate, Delta has more money and are better trained shooters. But historically SAS has done more with less bidget and more initiative.
I'm just Greatful that both countries have such smart brave professional guys who are prepared to put themselves in harms way & take care of the bad things in life that most of us never have to deal with or know about. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Thankfully, these are Good men.
terrorist and isis etc etc appone finding out that the SAS were about to come for them have immediately ran for the hills or surrendered simply by hearing the SAS are coming. I wonder if Delta gave that same level of fear to the enemy ?
Delta force better equipment and training facilities and by tge sounds of it snipers but i think SAS better thinking on their feet, adapting and being able to function effectively without being reliant on tech.
No. The US Special Forces - Green Berets - and all of the other US Special Operations units are exceptional. Technoligy and air support are a force multiplier multiplied more by Special Operations. These units are very effective on their own. They are much more effective with the technology and air support that they use better than other great units. Special forces around the world are taught to be self-reliant and to think on their feet. No different
@@GINGER-h1t any special forces unit are going to be exceptional. But I've seen many state that the SAS are on another level in their thought process and that they are happy to let the sas take the lead of difficult decisions when needed for whatever reason. It's not me saying it , it's them. Try and remember the sas operates in their own country as well, US special forces don't and that's a huge difference between them.
@@ddullaway I mean I am no expert, but that is not a huge difference at all, and going back to your original comment, has nothing to do with better equipment. I feel at this point, we are just finding excuses to give the SAS on an edge "US SF are too technologically dependent, oh SAS have existed longer, oh the SAS operate in country...." just so they can compete with US SF greater modern experience (since the 80s), operation tempo and contributions to modern day SOF. Try to remember that plenty of people, almost everyone (everyone in Delta, and a few SAS) say that Delta is on another level. You have literally ex SAS guys like Chris Ryan saying Delta has surpassed the SAS some time ago, am I wrong?
@@GINGER-h1t to be fair we’ve just watched a US special forces guy just say how in awe he was of the SAS decision making, which would have ultimately resulted in a fail had it been for them not taking charge of the situation he was in. They are exceptional at what they do.
@@stonboy Not a fail, just another dry hole with risk.......And on another video, we have ex SAS saying how they are at awe of US SOF. Lindsey Bruce for example. Plenty of other examples that show that US SOF is also exemplary. This exact situation, could have easily been said about any other tier 1 unit. Even so, all this has nothing to do with being technologically dependent, which I consider baseless. Just going of your comments, nothing to it.
sincerely...the "debate" on these units should stop... SAS, SFOD, DEVGRU, SBS.... they are all equally badass... they've all conducted extremely complex missions, subjected to unforgiving terrain, suffered horific casualties....they all essentially perform the same tasks! ...and yes....! not to forget Sayeret Matkal & the various "james bond" charcters in the different spy agencies!
That makes sense. It takes a lot of continuous training time for those SEALS to stay top-notch combat swimmers and all the other skills that go with water ops meanwhile, while SEALS are in the water, the GBs that specialize in DA can use their time out of the water to stay behind the gun and just keep getting better and better at Direct Action.
One thing you ignore is self reliance and a state of mind thats where the SAS score. Over reliance on money and gear does promote invincibility syndrome. I would never bet against the SAS or for that matter the SBS.
This is a very difficult one because obviously country against country the US has more people and better funded but say for instance, 10 SAS 10 Delta are dropped in the jungle, Delta would do better because of better equipment so would come out top but could they be relying on equipment to much? if both teams was dropped in the jungle with bare minimum equipment i think then the SAS would come out top! But honestly 1 for 1 comparison i doubt you would see any difference at all as they work together so closley and training techniques shared they are pretty much one big unit.
SAS are slightly more capable/experienced in raw combat situations which require pure soldiering skills and tactics. Delta operates better with Fancy Gear/weapons/techs etc....
Delta Force actually ran circles around the SAS in every facet of combat and the SAS heavily relied on that same US gear and tech advantage all throughout the GWOT lol.. The SAS were the part time Christmas help
@@glastonbury4304 My guy, if anything, joes has shown he knows about the military more than any other dude I know. If you don't like his conclusions, maybe consider reviewing your thinking 🤷♂
SAS was the original but theres no way they can keep up with Delta simply because Delta has access to a far greater budget for (1) continuous training, (2) R&D for improved methods, (3) better tech, and a they have (4) a far bigger more diverse population of military professionals and specialists to draw from.
@@MyTruth1771 i get that, however my point being tech can fail on you especially when in adverse conditions. no if you become reliant on such tech and it fails you your skills in fundamental basics maywell be more than allittle rusty. so i back up my stance that to be so reliant of tech isnt a good thing. but no doubt sas appreciates the level of tech us forces have at their disposal. gotta admit the us has some dam nice toys.
Can find seal 6 member saying they werent as resileliant and as tough due to the training the uk do ,no sunshine so when on ops wi sas there heads went dwn and they were in aw at uk 22 ,had more rugged training in these hostile weather conditions , its there on utube
SAS lack of equipment has somewhat fuelled their ability to innovate and adapt, but definitely the gap between SAS and the rest has narrowed in the 21st century , largely due to technological advances and how it's changed the 'battlefield'. But, if I was a hostage and could choose who comes to rescue, I'm choosing SAS every time.
One thing i never see is interviews with delta saying they did reconasonce on a target self reliant and hidden for long periods , im not saying they dont just this is more of what i hear from the sas interviews. So my opinion is they are different but both exceptional. Delta more land on the roof and fly through the window , sas hide and report unseen then assualt or rain hellfire from sky
I've always wondered, if you have two allied elite forces in collaboration, there's always a teir of command. So who would out rank who, who is the elite shot caller, a politician, a UN superior, a hidden super elite round table? And what if each side is spying on each other or has bad intentions. Who is above the delta or sas leadership that gets to order and collaborate both without any conflict of interest?
As a nobody i think the calibre and aptitude of Delta and SAS operators are probably on par but Delta is probably the superior fighting force simply because the US has more money and i know pricey kit doesn't make up for professionalism but it isn't just fancy kit we are talking everything from more advanced training facilities, more advanced and consistent radio and satellite technology, the very top of line medical supplies, there's no end to what you can purchase. Of course none of this is to say the SAS have shit gear or even subpar but the truth is that the US literally will spare no expense fullstop in their best units and the UK just quite arnt on that level.
Brits don't understand, technology doesn't substitute skill and experience, which Delta has more than any other unit out there. It enhances it. But oh well, let the mental gymnastics began.
@ssgtomen621 well in my opinion the experience thing is a little up for debate...I say that because it's not the unit SAS has existed for longer as I'm sure u know, maybe you meant per soldier but even then i would argue its an individual basis as there a plenty of SAS dudes that have been in the shit way more and have had way more deployment then Delta operators and vise versa, unless your selecting individuals to compare from each unit you can't say who's more experienced and also SAS are trained in and are responsible for dealing with counter terrorism within their own country but Delta doesn't do that they never operate within the US so that's potentially one way to argue SAS have more experience
@@melaniegooding4933 All fair points, granted. I argue the high op tempo, global mission set. I mean pre 9-11 alone Delta was involved in multiple HRs and FID missions, 80 % which are still denied. Plus, majority of the candidates come from the 75th and US SF, those guys have some of the highest deployment rate than other unit in the world, especially during GWOT. Among other reasons why I think is more experienced, but hey, different opinions. All valid. Thanks for the exchange
@ssgtomen621 I mean I wasn't even taking the opposite stance for it's just isn't so clear cut but you make a good point with the fact a lot of Delta dudes are already rangers, or maybe marsoc, Navy seal etc. I'm not exactly sure if it's also like that in the SAS...I know cause I'm Aussie in the Australian SASR we only have 3 SAS, commandoes and Navy clearance divers but almost every single SASR dude wasn't SF before joining the regiment. Infact you can try for SASR selection from any military branch once you've served a few years, doesn't matter who you are if you can make the high standards then you have a chance, as I'm sure you know some of the most unlikely characters become the best operators. But anyway the feelings mutual mate thanks for the chat have a good one
Imagine sitting on your own knowing one of these units are coming after you? Every second of the rest of your life will be the dread of when your door/windows/tunnels etc etc get blown in and a red dot is sitting on your forehead and heart until that final moment comes. I don’t care how brave you are, the mind wi ll you crazy!
JSOC is the almost certainly the most capable SOF organisation in the world due to training , size, unit diversity and just plain old resources. There is absolutely no way of saying which individual unit is the best in the world. Whether UK, US, Israeli, Indian or Korean for that matter. Professionalism is hard to calculate and specific requirements especially environmental are massively important. The hardcore units are the most secretive. Who would want to go up against a group of Amazonian Indians who have grown up in the jungle with blow pipes who are now in a SOF unit protecting a Brazilian Nuclear facility in and around a rainforest? I made up this Brazilian example but you can see where i'm going. Delta, GROM and the SBS wouldn’t but maybe Guatemalan SOF would?! UK SF are the modern originals and stories suggest they are still the benchmark that’s all we know. The UK, US and other countries probably have even more secretive units that are even better, whatever that means.
I have been watching a lot of military vids lately always wished I had gone but unfortunately life went a different way for me. Anyway I saw a video of a Taliban training camp the other day and they were wearing what looks like all the gear we left behind, nods, m4's with full kit. Listening gives me hope that even with all that gear the good guys will still prevail. But damn it's a scary thought
I believe history said Special Irish Branch of the Metropolitan Police, then Germany GSG9 tactical counterterrorism. Then of course SAS and Delta followed up, might be wrong.
Imagine the SAS with even less funding, but with easier access to arctic training would be my guess... Atleast based on the rest of the Canadian military... 🤷♂️
Except all of these guys are 100% legit former regiment. And goof for them. They risked their lives doing the craziest things for not a lot of money. Now they get out and the every podcast, tv show etc wants to pay them loads of money to hear about it? Too right they should be in the "circus".
Seem a lot of this type of content fly by. A lot of it leaves one feeling embarrassed at the amount of simping. Obviously the US has more resources and that has been the case pre the birth of even airborne forces. So this is refreshing to see a realistic comparison. Anyone that serves for our armed forces deserve top pay and post service benefits along with our enduring respect.
I totally agree. I’ve been researching the world’s SOF for 8 years and I had it narrowed down to Israel’s Yamam and Delta Force. Delta Force takes the trophy because of their versatility, operating in every environment, and how lightning fast they are at Direct Action and Hostage Rescue.
To be fair I've listened to more than a dozen US Sfs operators they shower praise on the SBS and SAS.British were taking on terrorists from 1969 till 1994 in Northern Ireland.Then off with you guys on the war on terror .
@zachpetsick4220 British had a terrorist playing field fighting the Pira facing IEDs daily.These IEDs would be honed in Iraq with a made in belfast stamp,they shared knowledge with the PLO etc,etc.Sad so many with irish blood from the US,UK etc would succumb to a blast formulated in Ulster.The British knew how to fight in towns and countyside (take a helicopter)due to 30 years training on high alert everyday nobody else had this knowledge.Give credit where it's due to the US forces they learned and kicked balls .
Mindset is a factor. And UK is used to struggle and perseverance without abundances. USA has it easier with more resources. Hardship helps make a better soldier.
A yank held the snipping record for longest kill for over 40 years...Carlos Hancock. And you should know there is a criteria for a kill to be a confirmed longest kill. One, having a third party, usually an officer, to verify it. UKSF and JSOC don't necessarily advertise nor do they operate in an environment that is often permissive that would allow a kill to be considered confirmed. Take Shrek Mcphee in Tora Bora, he was engaging targets 2 miles away with Tac-50 in 2002. Who is to say there isn't SAS shooter already bagging longest kill somewhere in Ukraine. The more you know.
theres your answer could delta do the job with sas kit, as sas do jobs and succeed ,imagine us with your kit,thats why the sas are the thinking soldier they still get the job done
SAS born in WW2 1941 operating in North Africa in the desert behind German lines. They were a pain in the Romel's neck. A bunch of mavericks . thinkers out of the box and surgical warriors. The modern special forces are inspired by the S.A.S, Very interesting book. by Ben Macintytre. "SAS Rogue Heroes"
Can find seal 6 member saying they werent as resileliant and as tough due to the training the uk do ,no sunshine so when on ops wi sas there heads went dwn and they were in aw at uk 22 ,had more rugged training in these hostile weather conditions , its there on utube ,as for no night vision , we had it in 80s in northern Ireland, and sas best hostage rescue is the sas
Yeah, the benchmark has definitely moved across the Atlantic. Respect to Hereford, but JSOC SMUs, especially Delta, is arguably the best unit out there. My 2 cents at least. Sine Pari & Wo Dares👊
I was young playing football (soccer) we would play this team who always got lots of money , better pitch better strips and you know what we were shit hot beat the all the time
Access to more money, gear and a larger pool to pick from does not make you any better. Both units are tied in my opinion everyone knows about the Black Hawk Down story which was meant to be a few hours at most. I wonder how many Americans know about Operation Baras or Operation Certain Death as it got nicknamed which while it was a different mission as a hostage rescue mission they thought they were going to die in the helicopters but still went in and done the job. As for how active both units are partly due to cultural differences you very rarely hear about SAS missions even compared to Delta Force, guys don't talk as much too just look at Chris Craighead he says the minimum about the SAS part of his life. All that being said like I said both units are equal in my opinion.
Got to disagree there. Most of Delta's missions are equally under wraps. And Black Hack Dawn is no way comparable to any of those missions, the urban environment, the enemy composition and nature of operations, one being HR, the other target recovery with an enemy determined time and at place make it practically apples and oranges. Describing Delta’s actions in the Battle of Mogadishu as a failure is even more at odds with the reality on the ground. Mark Bowden’s in-depth account, Black Hawk Down, depicted the Unit’s operators as awe-inspiring soldiers whose technical proficiency, training, and courage under fire went a long way toward preventing what otherwise might have been a far more catastrophic result. Master Sergeant Paul Howe, a former Delta operator who took part in the fight, considered it a most decisive victory for the United States, calling it “one of the most one-sided battles in American history.” (Christ Martin, Shadows) Oh fun fact, Delta had an unknown role in planning operation Barras. Yeah, at least according to Christ Martin. Just sharing. I know you got your own opinion, no ill will whatsoever.
Put ant Middletown on he said devgroup were best CQB guys because they went on so many door kicking missions they reinvented it. This dude just favors delta clearly
this is the sort of subject where a load of people in the comments below make judgments on things they have never been involved in. Adult men embarrassing themselves with opinions they are not qualified to make. The idea that the SAS aren't the best in hostage rescue is laughable though.
According to who?? Mod and the DOD doesn't comment on UKSF or JSOC operations. Yet, a multisource and corroborate accounting of the last 40 years from many credible authors like Sean Naylor, Christ Martin, Mark Urban and others, as well as interviews from numerous GWOT veterans of JSOC and others, all heavily imply that JSOC has had a greater success rate. Having more hostages rescued, more HVTs secured, higher op tempo. Blindly assuming that they (SAS) have a greater success rate doesn't mean that do. You got provide some receipts🤷♂
A lot of rivalry in these comments 😂. A lot of people talking as if what they’re saying is a fact, when in reality it’s literally subjective. When at the tip of the spear it’s pretty much impossible to say who’s better. I’m sure if you had 100 SAS operators and 100 for Delta, put them against each other and I guarantee some SAS will win in some cases and vice versa. There’s no definitive answer.
Sorry I have to disagree with Delta being the number one special force, Im not saying they aren’t a great team. They have the best equipment but take that away then what? Will they be able to still do their job just as well? If the Brits can carry out a job efficiently, quickly and stealth like just like Delta force without all that fancy up to date modern equipment then who is really the best? I’d just like to then throw into the mix the Gurkha’s man they are on another level of crazy scary and super skilled! WoW😂👍🇬🇧x
This video would have more weight if it came from someone that wasn't an American. An American saying that Delta is better? really? The bias is real...
I have a huge amount of respect for Chris VanSant but just watch the video of him and Billy Billingham and Billy was the one I’d want rescuing me. He said exactly I said bigger budget and a more all rounded soldier, given our own CT ability. David just does it for YT views. But I love Chris. He’d have got into the SAS.
There is really no evidence support that. Technology just enhances the skillset, right? I mean, Peter Blabber talked about using gorilla suit in Bosnia while hunting for war criminals. That is some serious out of the box thinking, no?
@@glastonbury4304 No? I don't think any Delta operator has said the SAS are better, or better at thinking at their feet. They have high praise, but not once have they said anything like that. I could be wrong, feel free to share names.
@whsikeymike1222 ...better at thinking on their feet due to not having all that inexhaustible tech Delta get...plenty of interview reels from Delta ...to be fair they are equal SF's , you can't really say one is better than the other , they have different skill sets, but for me Delta and the SAS/SBS are equals and top of their game...
@glastonbury4304 I agree, cut from the same cloth they both are. Though, I dislike the idea that tech somehow makes you weaker. It doesn't substitute skill or experience but rather enhances it. Everyone goes through selections and training without the toys. Just my 2 cents.
I would also add intelligence backing, unless that's also included in "Funding" I'd say that's really the major factor amongst all that put Delta ahead of basically any other international tier 1 group... Even base military funding... Basic infantry/Rangers etc. are going to have a vastly different amount of resources put into their foundation than most other foreign militaries or say British Para, where many SAS operators come from... All have a slightly lower starting point than US equivalents because of military budgets/spending... Money can't just buy amazing Soldiers/Operators, but it sure can make good soldiers/operators pretty amazing...
@@tobycollins9422 When you’ve done a decade of research like I have, heard it straight from Delta, ST6, and SAS operators alike, and did it all completely unbiased it’s quite obvious who the best assault force is. The SAS just doesn’t measure up to Delta in infantry foundation and combat marksmanship. That’s why the SAS historically suffer more casualties in combat than Delta does.
How on earth do you think they have a stronger infantry foundation?... just showing how little research you have done. The UK SF are mostly made up of mostly royal marine commandos and UK's premier shock troops the parachute regiment 2 of the most elite infantry forces in world
I personally don't believe its true at all. I personally technology doesn't substitute skill and experience, they compliment them. US SOF still train on fundamentals, with gadgets coming after selections. Take it from another point of view, the SAS are now getting the same gadgets, are they any less hindered? No. Likewise. Forgive me I say this sounds just British people say just one up on the Yank.
@ I dont think you got the gist. Our forces work on the human mindset and skill any equipment is just added as a use. - gadgets don’t maketh the warrior they help but relying too much on the gadgets is a downfall as before u know it u rely too much.
@@leileishort6285 But ma'am, US forces do the exact same thing. Perhaps this is a case of exposure on your part? I going to assume you are not familiar with SFAS. RASP, OTC or US SF SOF TRUTHs. Training does not focus on gadgets. Mabye a detailed exposure to US SOF history would convince you they very have the gist, and in regards to human mindset or skill, they are as every bit warrior, if not more, than the SAS. We don't always have all the facts at hand, and its fair build our conclusions on what we know at hand.
SAS do go as far back as WW2 but they were influenced later by S African hunter group and later recy group and also the Chinlets (WW2)& Rodesian SF. and of course, SOE.
You went from a cool dude to a wannabe fan boy. Now you’re just filling your pockets off of Delta and all these other Special Operations Teams. It’s looking grimy.
Aren't you the one "filling his pockets" by watching this content? I'm pretty sure that's how youtube works... I mean Delta is kind of a cornerstone of the channel and videos like this are what people are interested about... I mean I clicked on it, basically already knowing the answer... (budget, training quality/frequency, and intelligence sourcing will put any national tier 1 unit higher on a podium, especially after combat deployments, so most likely Delta assets would be like a wish list for most other international top operators) but I still enjoyed the video, and it explained this concept to others that may just be getting interested in the topic... You seem to be angrily yelling at the sky for being blue and saying it sold out because last month it had more clouds when you glanced up 🤦♂️ I'm sure if he had unlimited interviewees there would be less of these clip style videos, but good luck finding unlimited amounts of highly respected tier one/special operations/covert action members that are willing to do long form interviews on a relatively small in the grand sense youtube channel... 🤷♂️
Do you go outside everyday and yell at the sky for being blue and selling out because there were a few more clouds last time? 🤦♂️ Also I'm pretty sure you watching this video is the only thing "filling his pockets" because thats how youtube kinda works... I already kinda guessed at/knew the answer but watched the video anyways because I find the topic interesting as many others do, especially ones newer to the subject... Of course units with the higher budgets, best equipment/training resources, and intelligence service backing are going to rank higher on the "tier 1 podium" amongst other international units, especially if they have years of combat experience to help influence certain training/capabilities... I'm sure if he could release nothing but endless interviews of highly respected and qualified Tier 1 guys/ Special Operations members/covert action groups/Intelligence agents from around the world he would, but that's not exactly an easy thing to do I would imagine, especially as a relatively small (in the grand scheme of things) youtube channel... So I obviously see why he produces these clip type videos for additional channel content from former guests... And I watched it, I'm assuming you did, so I'm guessing others will too. I'm just not exactly sure what or why you are upset about a channel with a corner stone of interviewing Delta members talking about Delta members is such a problem? 🤔 🤷♂️
That’s what I’ve been saying too, he’s a fan boy. I bet you he would love to get in his knees and blow off these Delta guys. Biggest fanboy I’ve ever seen.
If it comes down to it Counter Terrorism and Hostage rescue 22 SAS are the best they've got the pedigree and without the technology they get the job done Delta rely on technology and Tier 1 assets where the SAS go back to Basic Soldiering Just listening to CCT Lamonica here says it all 22 SAS are the best You just gotta look at all the Saboteur raids that have been carried out behind the wire in Russia.......it's all 22 SAS/SBS because the fact is you can't have the luxury of Tier 1 assets over Russia so who you gonna send in.....not the Yanks coz they need there tech 😂😂😂
@@type1krush205 😀 Except one small problem there champ.. Lamonica wasn’t a delta operator. The 24STS is a enabler Unit that provides specialized capabilities to units like Delta and DevGru. I would be more concerned about SAS soldier Lindsay Bruce talking about how one Delta Sniper destroyed his entire Troop at the range, or ex SAS trooper Chris Ryan saying “word for word” on his podcast that Delta Force are a far more capable and dynamic Unit then the SAS. Or Delta operators Chris VanSant and Dale Comstock saying that DELTA surpassed the SAS as a CT organization going back to the 90s. Would like the links and time stamps to these podcasts? I’ll happily provide them for you 😃 Would you like some 🧂?
@joesgotya9930 Let me educate you : Obi 1 Nairobi is the perfect example of 22 SAS He got the call turned up.....more importantly no assets available and he's still through the door on his numero uno bro and he's mapped the building while rescuing hostages ! U ever heard or seen anything like this been done by any SF let alone Delta lmfao 🤣 So the SAS has Air Troop , Boat Troop , Mobility Troop , Mountain Troop Just over a couple of hundred operators The difference is my friend Tier 1 assets from above can't clear a Compound or be as effective as boots on the ground simple and that's the difference between 22 SAS and the rest bro never mind Delta Who do you think has been doing cross border raids into Russia from Ukraine 22 SAS causing havoc Who do you think has blown up the Crimea Bridge : UK SBS Who do you think has destroyed multiple Russian Naval Ships/Subs in Sevastapol SAS/SBS The American S.O.F cannot operate in such harsh environments and that's a fact bro
@ 🤣 This is absolutely adorable.. #1 - Christian Craighead was not by himself when he responded to the Nairobi crisis, he had an entire Kenyan security contingent on site aiding in cordon containment and going on offensive to root out the attackers. There wasn’t any (hostages) idiot, the goal of the terrorists was to kill as many westerns as they could. They were not interested in taking hostages and maby you should read up on the diction of what a (hostage) actually is before spouting BS lol. #2 - Delta Force operator Kyle Morgan did the exact same thing back in 2015 in Mali during the Bamako Hotel attack by Boko Haram. Kyle was doing work with the US Embassy in county away from his squadron. When the terrorists hit the hotel, Kyle was the 1st to get into the fight and engaged the terrorists (by himself) for nearly six hours before any actual CT forces got on scene.. In other words mate, Kyle was actually (on his own), and Kyle did this lone act LONG before Obi won Nairobi ever hit the news lol. 🤣 #3 The UK SF are not doing shit in Ukraine and they have done fuck all against any Russian Targets. Your living in a video game land of fantasy. Did you want to share some sources of this claim? I would highly recommend you stop your nonsense while you can. I will destroy you on this topic 😁 ✋
Closer to fiction than reality.... >Mali(4 years before Kenya) 1 Delta Soldier : Kyle Morgan- no ships or helicopters there. >Afghanistan: 1 Delta soldier conducting a solo recce operation: Shrek McPhee-no isr, ships or helicopters there as well. >Sudan HR: 1 Delta soldier augmented locally trained indeg hostage rescue force- Nada >Honduras HR: 1 Delta soldier augmented locally trained indeg hostage rescue force- You guessed it. These are just instances that we know of, at the very top of my head. Now, do you get my drift? Or do you have more make believe narratives you like to share just assure yourself the limey is better than the yank🙄
From the stories from both sides is that delta seems to be the better shooters 🤷♂️war fighting as a whole maybe a toss up but I’ve heard multiple sas guys say delta guys have out shot them
That american delta he refered to on the gun range had probably been shooting rifles since he was a young boy, hence american public has access to guns brits dont well not in the same way. guns are kind celebrated in the usa , so im not surprised at all to hear a delta guy out performed them on a gun range.but take note, this could very well just be down to that individual delta guy. hes no doubt a guy that grew up around guns even before being in the military. he doesnt define delta as better shots than the sas. i think it was a British royal marine commando sniper that holds the record for the longest kill shot ? at nearly 2 miles away. do please correct me if you know more on this as for me its a vague memory.
Delta Force Vs. 22 SAS Explained By Members
At the end of the day, if either unit breaches your door, you're fuxked. Definitely grateful they're on our side
I've been told by someone who should know that the biggest difference between the US and the UK is funding and toys. The individual soldiers would fit in either unit, seamlessly.
And I know from the SBS that in Iraq they used their own mobiles to detect Sunni locations because they realised that terrorists needed mobiles. The Americans would have used a Satellite or something more expensive. There’s an old historian story about the space war 50 years ago. The Americans spent thousands of dollars to create a pen, the Russians used a pencil…….and I hate Putin.
SAS has better soldiers and has more freedom to adjust and innovate, Delta has more money and are better trained shooters. But historically SAS has done more with less bidget and more initiative.
Well spoken!
They are both legit deadly who you wouldn't want to mess with either of them, but I think the Americans have the better infrastructure behind it.
If you are from the UK the SAS are the best if you are from the US delta are the best 😊😊
I'm just Greatful that both countries have such smart brave professional guys who are prepared to put themselves in harms way & take care of the bad things in life that most of us never have to deal with or know about. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Thankfully, these are Good men.
I actually like the friendly competitive nature between the tier 1 teams, I would think it raises standards across the board.
terrorist and isis etc etc appone finding out that the SAS were about to come for them have immediately ran for the hills or surrendered simply by hearing the SAS are coming. I wonder if Delta gave that same level of fear to the enemy ?
Delta force better equipment and training facilities and by tge sounds of it snipers but i think SAS better thinking on their feet, adapting and being able to function effectively without being reliant on tech.
No. The US Special Forces - Green Berets - and all of the other US Special Operations units are exceptional. Technoligy and air support are a force multiplier multiplied more by Special Operations. These units are very effective on their own. They are much more effective with the technology and air support that they use better than other great units. Special forces around the world are taught to be self-reliant and to think on their feet. No different
@@GINGER-h1t any special forces unit are going to be exceptional. But I've seen many state that the SAS are on another level in their thought process and that they are happy to let the sas take the lead of difficult decisions when needed for whatever reason. It's not me saying it , it's them. Try and remember the sas operates in their own country as well, US special forces don't and that's a huge difference between them.
@@ddullaway I mean I am no expert, but that is not a huge difference at all, and going back to your original comment, has nothing to do with better equipment. I feel at this point, we are just finding excuses to give the SAS on an edge "US SF are too technologically dependent, oh SAS have existed longer, oh the SAS operate in country...." just so they can compete with US SF greater modern experience (since the 80s), operation tempo and contributions to modern day SOF. Try to remember that plenty of people, almost everyone (everyone in Delta, and a few SAS) say that Delta is on another level. You have literally ex SAS guys like Chris Ryan saying Delta has surpassed the SAS some time ago, am I wrong?
@@GINGER-h1t to be fair we’ve just watched a US special forces guy just say how in awe he was of the SAS decision making, which would have ultimately resulted in a fail had it been for them not taking charge of the situation he was in. They are exceptional at what they do.
@@stonboy Not a fail, just another dry hole with risk.......And on another video, we have ex SAS saying how they are at awe of US SOF. Lindsey Bruce for example. Plenty of other examples that show that US SOF is also exemplary. This exact situation, could have easily been said about any other tier 1 unit. Even so, all this has nothing to do with being technologically dependent, which I consider baseless. Just going of your comments, nothing to it.
sincerely...the "debate" on these units should stop... SAS, SFOD, DEVGRU, SBS.... they are all equally badass... they've all conducted extremely complex missions, subjected to unforgiving terrain, suffered horific casualties....they all essentially perform the same tasks!
...and yes....! not to forget Sayeret Matkal & the various "james bond" charcters in the different spy agencies!
This 🎯! It's absolutely puerile.
The difference is budget and technology i would say other than that both units are just as good of course.
Interestingly, John McPhee said he’s been part of Green Beret CIF units more capable of DA than DEVGRU.
That makes sense. It takes a lot of continuous training time for those SEALS to stay top-notch combat swimmers and all the other skills that go with water ops meanwhile, while SEALS are in the water, the GBs that specialize in DA can use their time out of the water to stay behind the gun and just keep getting better and better at Direct Action.
Ant Middletown SAS said devgroup was the best CQB guys lol so wtf are you children talking about?
@ Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. And DEVGRU is notorious for shooting/killing hostages. Do your research.
@@ETB9090he still did his part and worked with devgru closely
@onepunchflan3071 you've completely missed the point
One thing you ignore is self reliance and a state of mind thats where the SAS score. Over reliance on money and gear does promote invincibility syndrome. I would never bet against the SAS or for that matter the SBS.
Thank you for these uploads bro
I think both countries should be proud of there arm forces.
If you're British, you will think the SAS are better ,if you're American, you will think it's the Delta force .Im british, and it's the SAS all day .
This is a very difficult one because obviously country against country the US has more people and better funded but say for instance, 10 SAS 10 Delta are dropped in the jungle, Delta would do better because of better equipment so would come out top but could they be relying on equipment to much? if both teams was dropped in the jungle with bare minimum equipment i think then the SAS would come out top! But honestly 1 for 1 comparison i doubt you would see any difference at all as they work together so closley and training techniques shared they are pretty much one big unit.
On 30 march 2018 a Delta and SAS guy were killed together. John Dunbar and Matt Tonroe. (and it was by enemy action, depspite what the MOD said)
People saying delta force are better and people saying sas probably never even been in the army or even the boy scouts
SAS are slightly more capable/experienced in raw combat situations which require pure soldiering skills and tactics. Delta operates better with Fancy Gear/weapons/techs etc....
Delta Force actually ran circles around the SAS in every facet of combat and the SAS heavily relied on that same US gear and tech advantage all throughout the GWOT lol.. The SAS were the part time Christmas help
@@joesgotya9930grow up
LOL, no. Delta are simply put the most experienced, best shooters in the world.
@joesgotya9930 ...one thing I do know is you have no respect and know nothing about the military...you'd be more a traitor and coward in a war...
@@glastonbury4304 My guy, if anything, joes has shown he knows about the military more than any other dude I know. If you don't like his conclusions, maybe consider reviewing your thinking 🤷♂
I enjoyed watching this!
I think we can all agree a delta/SAS alliance is probably as lethal a dynamic you’ll ever get!
SAS was the original but theres no way they can keep up with Delta simply because Delta has access to a far greater budget for (1) continuous training, (2) R&D for improved methods, (3) better tech, and a they have (4) a far bigger more diverse population of military professionals and specialists to draw from.
A budget doesn't make you more professional 😂😂😂 How on earth can you improve on perfection
yes such reliance on technology is infact a big weakness for an SF guy. the best warriors dont need many toys.
@RansomeDavis no. If it was armies would still be fighting with swords and shields and not firearms. Technology is an advantage.
@@MyTruth1771 i get that, however my point being tech can fail on you especially when in adverse conditions. no if you become reliant on such tech and it fails you your skills in fundamental basics maywell be more than allittle rusty. so i back up my stance that to be so reliant of tech isnt a good thing. but no doubt sas appreciates the level of tech us forces have at their disposal. gotta admit the us has some dam nice toys.
@RansomeDavis you replied to only #3 (tech) of my 4 points of advantage. I think that's illustrates my basic point.
Can find seal 6 member saying they werent as resileliant and as tough due to the training the uk do ,no sunshine so when on ops wi sas there heads went dwn and they were in aw at uk 22 ,had more rugged training in these hostile weather conditions , its there on utube
Please, I insist you find that SEAL TEAM 6 member....what, we are just making stuff up now.
UK not England
Yeah about 70% of SAS are Scotts they are hard as nails up there.
@@610vegas Myth my friend
@@simonleask No one cares 😀
SAS lack of equipment has somewhat fuelled their ability to innovate and adapt, but definitely the gap between SAS and the rest has narrowed in the 21st century , largely due to technological advances and how it's changed the 'battlefield'.
But, if I was a hostage and could choose who comes to rescue, I'm choosing SAS every time.
One thing i never see is interviews with delta saying they did reconasonce on a target self reliant and hidden for long periods , im not saying they dont just this is more of what i hear from the sas interviews. So my opinion is they are different but both exceptional. Delta more land on the roof and fly through the window , sas hide and report unseen then assualt or rain hellfire from sky
I've always wondered, if you have two allied elite forces in collaboration, there's always a teir of command. So who would out rank who, who is the elite shot caller, a politician, a UN superior, a hidden super elite round table? And what if each side is spying on each other or has bad intentions. Who is above the delta or sas leadership that gets to order and collaborate both without any conflict of interest?
As a nobody i think the calibre and aptitude of Delta and SAS operators are probably on par but Delta is probably the superior fighting force simply because the US has more money and i know pricey kit doesn't make up for professionalism but it isn't just fancy kit we are talking everything from more advanced training facilities, more advanced and consistent radio and satellite technology, the very top of line medical supplies, there's no end to what you can purchase. Of course none of this is to say the SAS have shit gear or even subpar but the truth is that the US literally will spare no expense fullstop in their best units and the UK just quite arnt on that level.
Brits don't understand, technology doesn't substitute skill and experience, which Delta has more than any other unit out there. It enhances it. But oh well, let the mental gymnastics began.
@ssgtomen621 well in my opinion the experience thing is a little up for debate...I say that because it's not the unit SAS has existed for longer as I'm sure u know, maybe you meant per soldier but even then i would argue its an individual basis as there a plenty of SAS dudes that have been in the shit way more and have had way more deployment then Delta operators and vise versa, unless your selecting individuals to compare from each unit you can't say who's more experienced and also SAS are trained in and are responsible for dealing with counter terrorism within their own country but Delta doesn't do that they never operate within the US so that's potentially one way to argue SAS have more experience
@@melaniegooding4933 All fair points, granted. I argue the high op tempo, global mission set. I mean pre 9-11 alone Delta was involved in multiple HRs and FID missions, 80 % which are still denied. Plus, majority of the candidates come from the 75th and US SF, those guys have some of the highest deployment rate than other unit in the world, especially during GWOT. Among other reasons why I think is more experienced, but hey, different opinions. All valid. Thanks for the exchange
@ssgtomen621 I mean I wasn't even taking the opposite stance for it's just isn't so clear cut but you make a good point with the fact a lot of Delta dudes are already rangers, or maybe marsoc, Navy seal etc. I'm not exactly sure if it's also like that in the SAS...I know cause I'm Aussie in the Australian SASR we only have 3 SAS, commandoes and Navy clearance divers but almost every single SASR dude wasn't SF before joining the regiment. Infact you can try for SASR selection from any military branch once you've served a few years, doesn't matter who you are if you can make the high standards then you have a chance, as I'm sure you know some of the most unlikely characters become the best operators. But anyway the feelings mutual mate thanks for the chat have a good one
@melaniegooding4933 The right guy)) Got to love the Aussies. Who dares. Cheers 🍻
Your a Yank,, what else you gonna say,but deep down,, you know it 🏴🇬🇧💥
Lol deep down everyone but the Brits know. Just ask lindsey Bruce🤭
@@ssgtomen621can watch a delta operator saying the sas were different bread
@GazT-i8b And? Of course, they are a different breed. But so is Delta 🤷♂️
@@ssgtomen621I see you everywhere, why are you so triggered?
@gootusfootus3229 And you actually stopped by to say hi🥺 . I knew you would warm up to me, mate. What can I say, I have a lot to share.
My money would be on CAG but that doesn't mean there aren't other Tier 1 units that are very, very close behind (Aus SAS, JTF2, GROM, etc.)
Top warriors respect fellow top warriors.
Imagine sitting on your own knowing one of these units are coming after you? Every second of the rest of your life will be the dread of when your door/windows/tunnels etc etc get blown in and a red dot is sitting on your forehead and heart until that final moment comes. I don’t care how brave you are, the mind wi ll you crazy!
Both are fkin epic units
Always a great topic but if you put a loop together of what we all said about who’s the best, you’d get a lot of Delta, Delta, Delta, Delta….
Only when asking Americans. Rest of the world saying SAS
JSOC is the almost certainly the most capable SOF organisation in the world due to training , size, unit diversity and just plain old resources. There is absolutely no way of saying which individual unit is the best in the world. Whether UK, US, Israeli, Indian or Korean for that matter. Professionalism is hard to calculate and specific requirements especially environmental are massively important. The hardcore units are the most secretive. Who would want to go up against a group of Amazonian Indians who have grown up in the jungle with blow pipes who are now in a SOF unit protecting a Brazilian Nuclear facility in and around a rainforest? I made up this Brazilian example but you can see where i'm going. Delta, GROM and the SBS wouldn’t but maybe Guatemalan SOF would?! UK SF are the modern originals and stories suggest they are still the benchmark that’s all we know. The UK, US and other countries probably have even more secretive units that are even better, whatever that means.
Listen delta force can take over a country in many different ways most being without you even knowing
Elusive Joes!!!
Why elusive?
Coz nobody gives a shit about them
I have been watching a lot of military vids lately always wished I had gone but unfortunately life went a different way for me. Anyway I saw a video of a Taliban training camp the other day and they were wearing what looks like all the gear we left behind, nods, m4's with full kit. Listening gives me hope that even with all that gear the good guys will still prevail. But damn it's a scary thought
I believe history said Special Irish Branch of the Metropolitan Police, then Germany GSG9 tactical counterterrorism. Then of course SAS and Delta followed up, might be wrong.
What about JTF2
Imagine the SAS with even less funding, but with easier access to arctic training would be my guess... Atleast based on the rest of the Canadian military... 🤷♂️
@ idk according to a jtf2 op on his previous videos they actually get more funding bcs their military so small
Or not more funding but they can afford to give them the best equipment bcs there isnt many of them
Real 22 operators wouldn’t be seen anywhere near this circus
???
Why is that? He has real operators from the US, why not from other countries?🤔🤷🏽♂️🤨
He’s had real 22 operators 😂how is this a circus
@@Jc-ly6peAny piece of media is a circus.
Except all of these guys are 100% legit former regiment. And goof for them. They risked their lives doing the craziest things for not a lot of money. Now they get out and the every podcast, tv show etc wants to pay them loads of money to hear about it? Too right they should be in the "circus".
Seem a lot of this type of content fly by. A lot of it leaves one feeling embarrassed at the amount of simping. Obviously the US has more resources and that has been the case pre the birth of even airborne forces. So this is refreshing to see a realistic comparison. Anyone that serves for our armed forces deserve top pay and post service benefits along with our enduring respect.
Without any bias, the truth is that the most capable tier one unit is Delta. The GWOT has proven that to be true.
I totally agree. I’ve been researching the world’s SOF for 8 years and I had it narrowed down to Israel’s Yamam and Delta Force. Delta Force takes the trophy because of their versatility, operating in every environment, and how lightning fast they are at Direct Action and Hostage Rescue.
To be fair I've listened to more than a dozen US Sfs operators they shower praise on the SBS and SAS.British were taking on terrorists from 1969 till 1994 in Northern Ireland.Then off with you guys on the war on terror .
Typical US centric attitude.
@zachpetsick4220 British had a terrorist playing field fighting the Pira facing IEDs daily.These IEDs would be honed in Iraq with a made in belfast stamp,they shared knowledge with the PLO etc,etc.Sad so many with irish blood from the US,UK etc would succumb to a blast formulated in Ulster.The British knew how to fight in towns and countyside (take a helicopter)due to 30 years training on high alert everyday nobody else had this knowledge.Give credit where it's due to the US forces they learned and kicked balls .
@@jakhaughton1800 Doesn’t change the fact that the most capable units in the world are at JSOC.
History tells us everything we need to know … the way the uk and USA fight wars and conflicts is totally different and always has been.
Mindset is a factor. And UK is used to struggle and perseverance without abundances. USA has it easier with more resources.
Hardship helps make a better soldier.
Who has the snipping record no yank not in 3 longest kills
A yank held the snipping record for longest kill for over 40 years...Carlos Hancock. And you should know there is a criteria for a kill to be a confirmed longest kill. One, having a third party, usually an officer, to verify it. UKSF and JSOC don't necessarily advertise nor do they operate in an environment that is often permissive that would allow a kill to be considered confirmed. Take Shrek Mcphee in Tora Bora, he was engaging targets 2 miles away with Tac-50 in 2002. Who is to say there isn't SAS shooter already bagging longest kill somewhere in Ukraine. The more you know.
Pound for pound, British forces are best on the planet. IMO.
Dont forget the SBS and SRR all just as great as SAS
theres your answer could delta do the job with sas kit, as sas do jobs and succeed ,imagine us with your kit,thats why the sas are the thinking soldier they still get the job done
SAS born in WW2 1941 operating in North Africa in the desert behind German lines. They were a pain in the Romel's neck. A bunch of mavericks . thinkers out of the box and surgical warriors. The modern special forces are inspired by the S.A.S,
Very interesting book. by Ben Macintytre. "SAS Rogue Heroes"
Delta is the best. I can't remember where I read it, "but no one goes in the room like Delta"
Ask diddy
George Hand the IV, I believe he was quoting Dalton Fury, but I could be wrong, I know he wrote the article.
@@ssgtomen621 Yes!!!! That's the one. Bad ass
Can find seal 6 member saying they werent as resileliant and as tough due to the training the uk do ,no sunshine so when on ops wi sas there heads went dwn and they were in aw at uk 22 ,had more rugged training in these hostile weather conditions , its there on utube ,as for no night vision , we had it in 80s in northern Ireland, and sas best hostage rescue is the sas
Can that question truly be answerd
Yeah, the benchmark has definitely moved across the Atlantic. Respect to Hereford, but JSOC SMUs, especially Delta, is arguably the best unit out there. My 2 cents at least. Sine Pari & Wo Dares👊
I was young playing football (soccer) we would play this team who always got lots of money , better pitch better strips and you know what we were shit hot beat the all the time
Access to more money, gear and a larger pool to pick from does not make you any better. Both units are tied in my opinion everyone knows about the Black Hawk Down story which was meant to be a few hours at most. I wonder how many Americans know about Operation Baras or Operation Certain Death as it got nicknamed which while it was a different mission as a hostage rescue mission they thought they were going to die in the helicopters but still went in and done the job. As for how active both units are partly due to cultural differences you very rarely hear about SAS missions even compared to Delta Force, guys don't talk as much too just look at Chris Craighead he says the minimum about the SAS part of his life. All that being said like I said both units are equal in my opinion.
Got to disagree there. Most of Delta's missions are equally under wraps. And Black Hack Dawn is no way comparable to any of those missions, the urban environment, the enemy composition and nature of operations, one being HR, the other target recovery with an enemy determined time and at place make it practically apples and oranges.
Describing Delta’s actions in the Battle of Mogadishu as a failure is even more at odds with the reality on the ground. Mark Bowden’s in-depth account, Black Hawk Down, depicted the Unit’s operators as awe-inspiring soldiers whose technical proficiency, training, and courage under fire went a long way toward preventing what otherwise might have been a far more catastrophic result. Master Sergeant Paul Howe, a former Delta operator who took part in the fight, considered it a most decisive victory for the United States, calling it “one of the most one-sided battles in American history.” (Christ Martin, Shadows)
Oh fun fact, Delta had an unknown role in planning operation Barras. Yeah, at least according to Christ Martin.
Just sharing. I know you got your own opinion, no ill will whatsoever.
@whsikeymike1222 I never said Mogadishu was a failure just things went wrong
@@stuartgebbie5639 My bad misread it. And things definitely do go wrong. That's why you got to have the right guy in these units.
@whsikeymike1222 yeqh exactly as for what you said about Delta helping to plan Operation Baras I know a guy who was on it and Delta was not involved
@@whsikeymike1222 My main man, keeping it civil, I like that 😂
SAS and SBS are trained permitted to work inside the country, American special forces are not.
Put ant Middletown on he said devgroup were best CQB guys because they went on so many door kicking missions they reinvented it. This dude just favors delta clearly
At least Lindsay is honest about money.
this is the sort of subject where a load of people in the comments below make judgments on things they have never been involved in. Adult men embarrassing themselves with opinions they are not qualified to make. The idea that the SAS aren't the best in hostage rescue is laughable though.
22nd SAS not 2 - 2
SAS has a greater success rate
According to who?? Mod and the DOD doesn't comment on UKSF or JSOC operations. Yet, a multisource and corroborate accounting of the last 40 years from many credible authors like Sean Naylor, Christ Martin, Mark Urban and others, as well as interviews from numerous GWOT veterans of JSOC and others, all heavily imply that JSOC has had a greater success rate. Having more hostages rescued, more HVTs secured, higher op tempo. Blindly assuming that they (SAS) have a greater success rate doesn't mean that do. You got provide some receipts🤷♂
A lot of rivalry in these comments 😂. A lot of people talking as if what they’re saying is a fact, when in reality it’s literally subjective. When at the tip of the spear it’s pretty much impossible to say who’s better. I’m sure if you had 100 SAS operators and 100 for Delta, put them against each other and I guarantee some SAS will win in some cases and vice versa. There’s no definitive answer.
So the SAS is the best, they're doing the same job with less resources 😁
If i had the choice to go into a war zone behind enemy lines for a duration id go in hands-down with the Regiment..
Sorry I have to disagree with Delta being the number one special force, Im not saying they aren’t a great team. They have the best equipment but take that away then what? Will they be able to still do their job just as well? If the Brits can carry out a job efficiently, quickly and stealth like just like Delta force without all that fancy up to date modern equipment then who is really the best? I’d just like to then throw into the mix the Gurkha’s man they are on another level of crazy scary and super skilled! WoW😂👍🇬🇧x
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This video would have more weight if it came from someone that wasn't an American. An American saying that Delta is better? really? The bias is real...
Tip of the spear!
He's talking about 1 person,, out of how many 😅😅😅🏴🏴🏴
I have a huge amount of respect for Chris VanSant but just watch the video of him and Billy Billingham and Billy was the one I’d want rescuing me. He said exactly I said bigger budget and a more all rounded soldier, given our own CT ability. David just does it for YT views. But I love Chris. He’d have got into the SAS.
Delta have more gadgets which helps, but the SAS can think better on their feet...I'd say they are equal and both superior to Seals etc...
There is really no evidence support that. Technology just enhances the skillset, right? I mean, Peter Blabber talked about using gorilla suit in Bosnia while hunting for war criminals. That is some serious out of the box thinking, no?
@whsikeymike1222 ...plenty of evidence to support that even from interviews with Delta saying so...
@@glastonbury4304 No? I don't think any Delta operator has said the SAS are better, or better at thinking at their feet. They have high praise, but not once have they said anything like that. I could be wrong, feel free to share names.
@whsikeymike1222 ...better at thinking on their feet due to not having all that inexhaustible tech Delta get...plenty of interview reels from Delta ...to be fair they are equal SF's , you can't really say one is better than the other , they have different skill sets, but for me Delta and the SAS/SBS are equals and top of their game...
@glastonbury4304 I agree, cut from the same cloth they both are. Though, I dislike the idea that tech somehow makes you weaker. It doesn't substitute skill or experience but rather enhances it. Everyone goes through selections and training without the toys. Just my 2 cents.
I can see accents being a huge hindrance to understanding each other; it could almost become a foreign language issue if not managed correctly
You probably haven’t been to Great Britain lol our accents are different 30 miles down the road lol
There are four reasons why Delta is more elite than the SAS:
1)Funding
2)Much stronger infantry foundation
3)Diversity
4)Versatility
I would also add intelligence backing, unless that's also included in "Funding" I'd say that's really the major factor amongst all that put Delta ahead of basically any other international tier 1 group... Even base military funding... Basic infantry/Rangers etc. are going to have a vastly different amount of resources put into their foundation than most other foreign militaries or say British Para, where many SAS operators come from... All have a slightly lower starting point than US equivalents because of military budgets/spending... Money can't just buy amazing Soldiers/Operators, but it sure can make good soldiers/operators pretty amazing...
@@tobycollins9422 When you’ve done a decade of research like I have, heard it straight from Delta, ST6, and SAS operators alike, and did it all completely unbiased it’s quite obvious who the best assault force is. The SAS just doesn’t measure up to Delta in infantry foundation and combat marksmanship. That’s why the SAS historically suffer more casualties in combat than Delta does.
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂
How on earth do you think they have a stronger infantry foundation?... just showing how little research you have done. The UK SF are mostly made up of mostly royal marine commandos and UK's premier shock troops the parachute regiment 2 of the most elite infantry forces in world
@@Patriot218S I just love these arm chair experts.😅🤣😂
USA tends to hindered when they rely on too much gadgets. SAS will always been too due to set minds they use tatics they aren’t hindered
I personally don't believe its true at all. I personally technology doesn't substitute skill and experience, they compliment them. US SOF still train on fundamentals, with gadgets coming after selections. Take it from another point of view, the SAS are now getting the same gadgets, are they any less hindered? No. Likewise. Forgive me I say this sounds just British people say just one up on the Yank.
@ I dont think you got the gist. Our forces work on the human mindset and skill any equipment is just added as a use. - gadgets don’t maketh the warrior they help but relying too much on the gadgets is a downfall as before u know it u rely too much.
@@leileishort6285 But ma'am, US forces do the exact same thing. Perhaps this is a case of exposure on your part? I going to assume you are not familiar with SFAS. RASP, OTC or US SF SOF TRUTHs. Training does not focus on gadgets. Mabye a detailed exposure to US SOF history would convince you they very have the gist, and in regards to human mindset or skill, they are as every bit warrior, if not more, than the SAS. We don't always have all the facts at hand, and its fair build our conclusions on what we know at hand.
I would think the ones with the least kit etc 22, will be the baddest individually, as a group delta as they have bigger n badder back up to call on.
SAS do go as far back as WW2 but they were influenced later by S African hunter group and later recy group and also the Chinlets (WW2)& Rodesian SF. and of course, SOE.
Nope SAS best
Don't you mean British 🇬🇧😎SAS All the way 😎😁 2:51 2:52
How mind numbingly boring, another pissing competition.....
Delta force: ultimated budget, done.
This is a biased view....ive heard accounts from SAS saying how SAS are still the best soldiers based on the units they recruit from
You went from a cool dude to a wannabe fan boy. Now you’re just filling your pockets off of Delta and all these other Special Operations Teams. It’s looking grimy.
Aren't you the one "filling his pockets" by watching this content? I'm pretty sure that's how youtube works... I mean Delta is kind of a cornerstone of the channel and videos like this are what people are interested about... I mean I clicked on it, basically already knowing the answer... (budget, training quality/frequency, and intelligence sourcing will put any national tier 1 unit higher on a podium, especially after combat deployments, so most likely Delta assets would be like a wish list for most other international top operators) but I still enjoyed the video, and it explained this concept to others that may just be getting interested in the topic... You seem to be angrily yelling at the sky for being blue and saying it sold out because last month it had more clouds when you glanced up 🤦♂️ I'm sure if he had unlimited interviewees there would be less of these clip style videos, but good luck finding unlimited amounts of highly respected tier one/special operations/covert action members that are willing to do long form interviews on a relatively small in the grand sense youtube channel... 🤷♂️
Do you go outside everyday and yell at the sky for being blue and selling out because there were a few more clouds last time? 🤦♂️ Also I'm pretty sure you watching this video is the only thing "filling his pockets" because thats how youtube kinda works... I already kinda guessed at/knew the answer but watched the video anyways because I find the topic interesting as many others do, especially ones newer to the subject... Of course units with the higher budgets, best equipment/training resources, and intelligence service backing are going to rank higher on the "tier 1 podium" amongst other international units, especially if they have years of combat experience to help influence certain training/capabilities... I'm sure if he could release nothing but endless interviews of highly respected and qualified Tier 1 guys/ Special Operations members/covert action groups/Intelligence agents from around the world he would, but that's not exactly an easy thing to do I would imagine, especially as a relatively small (in the grand scheme of things) youtube channel... So I obviously see why he produces these clip type videos for additional channel content from former guests... And I watched it, I'm assuming you did, so I'm guessing others will too. I'm just not exactly sure what or why you are upset about a channel with a corner stone of interviewing Delta members talking about Delta members is such a problem? 🤔 🤷♂️
That’s what I’ve been saying too, he’s a fan boy. I bet you he would love to get in his knees and blow off these Delta guys. Biggest fanboy I’ve ever seen.
@tonyjackson4099 stop being a dork. The guy’s making interesting content.
If it comes down to it Counter Terrorism and Hostage rescue
22 SAS are the best they've got the pedigree and without the technology they get the job done
Delta rely on technology and Tier 1 assets where the SAS go back to Basic Soldiering
Just listening to CCT Lamonica here says it all
22 SAS are the best
You just gotta look at all the Saboteur raids that have been carried out behind the wire in Russia.......it's all 22 SAS/SBS
because the fact is you can't have the luxury of Tier 1 assets over Russia so who you gonna send in.....not the Yanks coz they need there tech 😂😂😂
Except he didn’t say that the SAS were the best and he wasn’t even comparing to Delta lol
@joesgotya9930 LMFAO Lamonica has been attached to the Best there is and he's just spit facts and he's an American bro u just salty 🧂 😂
@@type1krush205 😀 Except one small problem there champ.. Lamonica wasn’t a delta operator. The 24STS is a enabler Unit that provides specialized capabilities to units like Delta and DevGru. I would be more concerned about SAS soldier Lindsay Bruce talking about how one Delta Sniper destroyed his entire Troop at the range, or ex SAS trooper Chris Ryan saying “word for word” on his podcast that Delta Force are a far more capable and dynamic Unit then the SAS. Or Delta operators Chris VanSant and Dale Comstock saying that DELTA surpassed the SAS as a CT organization going back to the 90s.
Would like the links and time stamps to these podcasts? I’ll happily provide them for you 😃
Would you like some 🧂?
@joesgotya9930
Let me educate you : Obi 1 Nairobi is the perfect example of 22 SAS
He got the call turned up.....more importantly no assets available and he's still through the door on his numero uno bro and he's mapped the building while rescuing hostages ! U ever heard or seen anything like this been done by any SF let alone Delta lmfao 🤣
So the SAS has Air Troop , Boat Troop , Mobility Troop , Mountain Troop
Just over a couple of hundred operators
The difference is my friend Tier 1 assets
from above can't clear a Compound or be as effective as boots on the ground
simple and that's the difference between 22 SAS and the rest bro never mind Delta
Who do you think has been doing cross border raids into Russia from Ukraine
22 SAS causing havoc
Who do you think has blown up the Crimea Bridge : UK SBS
Who do you think has destroyed multiple Russian Naval Ships/Subs in Sevastapol
SAS/SBS
The American S.O.F cannot operate in such harsh environments and that's a fact bro
@ 🤣 This is absolutely adorable..
#1 - Christian Craighead was not by himself when he responded to the Nairobi crisis, he had an entire Kenyan security contingent on site aiding in cordon containment and going on offensive to root out the attackers. There wasn’t any (hostages) idiot, the goal of the terrorists was to kill as many westerns as they could. They were not interested in taking hostages and maby you should read up on the diction of what a (hostage) actually is before spouting BS lol.
#2 - Delta Force operator Kyle Morgan did the exact same thing back in 2015 in Mali during the Bamako Hotel attack by Boko Haram. Kyle was doing work with the US Embassy in county away from his squadron. When the terrorists hit the hotel, Kyle was the 1st to get into the fight and engaged the terrorists (by himself) for nearly six hours before any actual CT forces got on scene.. In other words mate, Kyle was actually (on his own), and Kyle did this lone act LONG before Obi won Nairobi ever hit the news lol. 🤣
#3 The UK SF are not doing shit in Ukraine and they have done fuck all against any Russian Targets. Your living in a video game land of fantasy. Did you want to share some sources of this claim?
I would highly recommend you stop your nonsense while you can. I will destroy you on this topic 😁 ✋
Sounds like horse 💩 to me Brits can't find money to outfit there best with the best gear ...not cool
Spetnaz K
Pure lies 😂😂
First to arrive!
And first to leave 🤣🤣🤣🏴🏴🏴
@ yeah was here days ago.. when it came out
Kenya 1 sas soldier
If was delta 2 ships 3helicopters ...get my drift??
Closer to fiction than reality....
>Mali(4 years before Kenya) 1 Delta Soldier : Kyle Morgan- no ships or helicopters there.
>Afghanistan: 1 Delta soldier conducting a solo recce operation: Shrek McPhee-no isr, ships or helicopters there as well.
>Sudan HR: 1 Delta soldier augmented locally trained indeg hostage rescue force- Nada
>Honduras HR: 1 Delta soldier augmented locally trained indeg hostage rescue force- You guessed it.
These are just instances that we know of, at the very top of my head. Now, do you get my drift? Or do you have more make believe narratives you like to share just assure yourself the limey is better than the yank🙄
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@@ETB9090 😘 Aim to please
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ssgtomen621 Your an absolute melt mate whos seen fuck all and done fuck all who riding fairy tales about CAG hard, embarrassing 😂😂😂😂
From the stories from both sides is that delta seems to be the better shooters 🤷♂️war fighting as a whole maybe a toss up but I’ve heard multiple sas guys say delta guys have out shot them
That american delta he refered to on the gun range had probably been shooting rifles since he was a young boy, hence american public has access to guns brits dont well not in the same way. guns are kind celebrated in the usa , so im not surprised at all to hear a delta guy out performed them on a gun range.but take note, this could very well just be down to that individual delta guy. hes no doubt a guy that grew up around guns even before being in the military. he doesnt define delta as better shots than the sas. i think it was a British royal marine commando sniper that holds the record for the longest kill shot ? at nearly 2 miles away. do please correct me if you know more on this as for me its a vague memory.
Delta will never match SAS ! It's a mind set the Yanks will never ever have ! Small island no money hard as nails ! Mind set !!