Baofeng for Beginners: More on Antennas, Range and Emergency Use
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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Join us as we host a question and answer session on the Baofeng UV-5R. We review the options for packing the radio, antennas, programming cables, range, emergency use, and more.
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Raven, I just got the UV5R and have programmed it. I got amazing info and ideas and support from your channel. You helped me select this radio, a great antenna and how to effectively use it. Thank you.
Great to hear. Thank you for the feedback.
Good info all the questions I needed answered in one video. Thanks alot for this video
Thanks for the feedback. Glad it was helpful!
Wait, 😳 so you mean this little pair of bubble pack frs/gmrs radios I paid $9000 for at Bass Pro don't go 60,000 miles like they say?
It's almost like they should only cost $60 or $70 a pair at most 😐
i just recieved my intro radio 3 days ago. and as a noob, i didnt know i needed to procure a programming cable separately. its on its way. however in the mean time, ive been taking notes from your videos, and doing some cursory listenings on my radio. i see that theres waaaaay more involved and much much more you can do with HAM, than i originally thought. i simply wanted one, for the most typical reason, in case of emergency, or something really bad going down. but now its starting to make a lot of sense how people can really get lost in the rabbit hole of HAM radio. im getting ever more interested as i go. i only hope that what started as a back up for comms, dont turn into a expensive habit. thank you for all the info
It doesn't have too. But at least drop some money and get your Tech license and find a local Ham Radio club to join. Then you will really learn things. And maybe get too help out at events in your area.
@yetisuncle Have you since received your programming cable? Did you manage to listen to anything without it?
@@Awakened_Angel I have recieved the cable. And the proper one actually by dumb luck. I wasn't sure what to look for at the time. But I have since programmed it. And it appears there is just minimal ham communication in my area. I find it odd. But there's only one repeater in my city, and even still I've not heard any traffic. I get the repeater reply, but no humans transmitting. Kinda sucks. And I haven't found any ham clubs in my area. Not yet anyhow. I've not given up.
@@yetisuncle666 Awh that sucks 😢 Thank you for your reply. I’m still waiting on my cable. Managed to find a what appears local group/club chatting last night but nothing else. Have you taken your radio out anywhere and tried that way? I tried to connect to someone I know via a repeater and it wouldn’t work. I seriously hope we both find more people to tune into on our radios lol. I’ve joined some Facebook groups to see if they’re helpful. I think lots of radio activity is lessened atm with all that’s going on. Sucks 😫 When you say ‘proper cable’ May I ask which one you purchased? I hear there’s lots of fakes out there. Mines is taking a few weeks to arrive, so perhaps that’s coming from China and it might be fake!?! 🤔 I hope not.
@@Awakened_Angel i actually heard some local transmissions the other day. it was just a couple guys discussing the weather, but it was encouraging to hear some actual chatter. i tried to post a link to where i got my cable, but its no longer available from the seller on ebay where i purchased it from. but you can get the cable from baofeng radios website, as well as thru miklor. when you buy from amazon or ebay, its really a crap shoot whether or not you will get the proper chip set. as alot of the sellers dont even know what they are selling. they just know it as a branded cable, and "it must be good" they dont know unless they are in the industry. alot of those sellers are simply resellers or dealers of chinese clones of name brand items. so if you go to amazon or ebay, buyer beware.
Missed a lot of awesome basic features included with the UV5R in this vid
If you want to be able to attach and remove the antenna often and/or quickly, purchase and install a BNC adapter. Also, several FRS/GMRS channels (7/22) are restricted to 0.5 watts and may not be legally used with this (minimum 1 watt) radio, except in an emergency.
Thank you, I was going too point out the problem with using said radio on FRS/GMRS. I also believe they are not legal too use on MURS, I could be wrong.
No, FRS is now limited to 2 W not 1.
gmrs can transmit at higher wattages
Regarding power..."47 CFR 95.567 FRS transmit power.
Each FRS transmitter type must be designed such that the effective radiated power (ERP) on channels 8 through 14 does not exceed 0.5 Watts and the ERP on channels 1 through 7 and 15 through 22 does not exceed 2.0 Watts."
On Mr Hart's statement. These radios are not FCC Part 95 certified to my knowledge. I will leave it at that. Proceed in use on the non-license bands at your own risk.
Can you increase your range through power output?
If you are out in the woods, and you get in trouble, and you got your little 5 watt HT, and there is not a repeater with in range, your screwed, plain and simple. Now I use a TYT, UV8000e 10 watt HT, with an Abbree 18.8 inch tactical folding antenna. Better range for transmitting and receiving, but still I would not count on it in an emergency, unless I knew I could hit a repeater, and of course some one has to be listening. Next is you use your HT outside the legal 2 meter band width, your going to heat your radio up big time. Due to bad SWR's. And you posted the legal band width early in your video, thank you. Last, your your technicians license at least, so you will be legal. And don't use these for FRS, go to Walmart and get legal FRS radio's. Also why are people still using the Baofeng, yes its Cheap, but for a few dollars more, I paid 90 dollars from Amazon for my TYT, you get a much better radio.
There are very few repeaters around North Dakota, so I'm screwed anyways. LOL I love those Abbree tactical folding antennas and have a few for my radios. They work great.
Don't be a fudd.
or you can buy a 18 watt baofeng and use a 42 inch abree antenna .....
Bf-f8hp to bff8hp im getting 2 miles in vhf and 5 miles on uhf, urban area, no line of sight and nagoya 771 antenna
Thats a good antenna, a better one is the Abbree 18.8 inch Tactical Folding antenna, I have both. And I have an F8, good radio.
We are getting the opposite, 1 mile uhf, 7 miles vhf on the 771 in the woods
@@jjohnston6645 yea,i believe vhf can go around woods better that uhf,but thru homes and buildings uhf,🤷🏻♂️
I can recomend the Diamond RH901S
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Just got my baofene uv5r 2 days ago. Everything I'm seeing says only use the top numbers for programming. Why is that? Also I didn't think you were allowed on murs with these radios. Btw I've yet to take my test for ham. Ty in advance for any replies
There is only one set of memories in the radio (128 channels). While most programming is done in the A band for channels, the B band allows you to select any of these same 128 memories. The VFO of A and B can be different.
@@TalonSurvival Ty for the video and and the reply
I was going to put a "magnet" mounting plate on the frame of my ruck sack to be able to run a longer whip antenna off my ruck while I'm out and about. My question is whether or not using a "magnet" antenna effects the performance of the antenna? In your opinion, what would be the best long whip antenna that would best suit my wants and needs? Thank you! Great VIDEO!
If you want a longer antenna, and it is a good idea, use the ABBREE 42.2 inch tactical folding antenna, I have one and it works great. I just use Gear Ties too attach it too the Molle of my backpack, and a short cable to my radio. Works great. Look up Abbree antenna's here on UA-cam, lots of good stuff.
@@longrider42 Thanks, great idea. I have that set up on my other radio. However, I don't find that a good antenna for walking through brush and trees. It's best went sitting in an LP/OP and that's about it. I wish there were more videos on line about ruck set ups or man-portable bug out setups.
Well this is tough to answer quickly as we have to get into antenna theory. And you will find many hams have their own "opinions" about this. Lets start with, you will never have a "perfect" antenna. Antennas are all a matter of some compromise to achieve a focused result. The closer you get to a resonant antenna like a 1/2 wave with proper ground plane the better performance you should see.
With the "mag plate" you are discussing, the problem you will run into is that it will be difficult to have a legitimate ground plane for the mag antenna to radiate efficiently. This is what mag munt antennas are designed to work with, using a car or some metal base as a ground plane in a horizontal plane.
A while ago, I set up a pack with a 1x2x4 metal box in a molle pouch with coax running from the radio to a baseplate mount SMA connector on the top which then allowed me to connect an SMA antenna. The baseplate SMA adapter allowed to ground the shield to the metal box acting as a ground plane. Still not a full size ground plane my any means, but it was better than nothing. Also gave a stout antenna mount for the pack. I used the SMA version of the Diamond SRJ77CA on the top. Worked really well. I also like that Diamond antenna (SRJ77CA) connected directly to the radio as well.
@@TalonSurvival Thank you!
Did I miss something at the beginning… what is Mers, as in Mers-5 and Mers-7?
Multi Use Radio System MURS. You can find the frequencies in Radio Reference.
How does it work if you carry it away from the table?
I want a uv5r 8 watt
They come with the charger for the battery?
Yes
I recieved one of the baofeng uv5rplus but so far have been unable to find one frequency with anyone chatting.
I'm waiting on a new antenna so maybe that will help.
Or I'm doing something wrong and I'll never hear anyone idk🤦♂️
First, find out if there is a local Ham Radio club near you, then get your Technicians license, and you will be so much better off. Also, most talk on 70cm and 2 Meter is via repeaters, so you need to learn how to program your radio. Its a tad complicated but Chirp makes it pretty easy.
@@longrider42 Hey thanks for reply 👍
I had kinda given up on it as I couldn't seem to join on any local repeater. But I've sent off for datacable to program it with chirp.
I'm gonna wait see if anyone is still using it before bothering with technician.
Tbh I'm still quite noob at hamradio even after 6 months.
@@OurDearLeader Hi. Did you get your programming cable & get it working? Could you not hear anyone at all up until getting this cable?
There is a really lonely guy on a station called NOAA whos always trying to chat with people...he seems lonely
@@whatabouttheearth 😶😂😂😂😂 look up repeater stations near you online to get the tones to login.
Brugh i saw that happen one time. Dude had a uv5r plus. Keyed up in his bag without load. Blew the front end threw the floor... lucky there 22 bux. I got mine and that dang tape measure antenne.... whTs your thaught on counterpoise aka rat tail???
got around 11km no prob on pmr troght a village
So is it possible for this device to match with any other vhf device belong to another brand
Yes depending on location without keying a repeater.
Commenting on the video for the algorithm
No offense, but one of the two speakers in several of these videos is difficult to hear.
I need to get 12.5 miles to a repeater. What do I need to make that possible?
More powerful radio, possibly auto base 30W or 50W radio.
A guy had a GMRS radio 50W in his car with well tuned external antenna, he was able to talk 35 miles.
That's it!
@@szaki thanks for the reply. Believe it or not I’m actually consistently hitting a repeater about 30 miles away with my little baofeng and an aftermarket antenna for it. I’ve even listened to one 50 miles away. Pleasantly surprised with the uv8r haha. But I have been thinking about a mobile radio. More of a base station. A mobile vehicle radio would be nice as well.
@@szaki what sort of antenna would you recommend for a small base station? And the radio as well. Kind of on a budget. Doesn’t have be dirt cheap haha but you know what I mean
@@drdabber710 I don't know, I'm still learning my UR-5.
I just mentioned a video where the guy Tx to 35 miles with his 50W radio.
These small handhelds are 8W the most and on FSR 2-3 Ws the most allowed to transmit.
So figure!
I have a question on the radio use and programming.
Josh on his Ham Radio Crash Course YT channel has some good tutorials on the subject of programming the Baofeng.
You need to program with churpp
I have a question for anyone who knows about radios:
Are Baofeng or Ham radios dangerous???
In what context
If you put it in a sock and beat somebody with it sure. But in terms of RF, no…
Can you transmit with Local PD and Fire?
No, it is illegal to transmit on PD and Fire frequencies.
If that were the only way to get a hold of someone in a true emergency, I would risk it and face the consequences later.
@@robschmieg6211 Absolutely!!
@@robschmieg6211 no consequence in an emergency
You might be able to get dispatch if you know the frequency, but most emergency services use generally digitally encrypted comms now which requires way more specialized equipment than this.
HEY! Give the person you were talking to a damn mic. This really sucks!
Добро радио за цената си.
I’ve seen about 100 videos on these things… I have yet to find one where someone explains how best to use this. Show me some stuff I can look up how to use a cable and what a button means
Explanation of menus: ua-cam.com/video/7jFn7ZGVldg/v-deo.html
How to program using software and cable: ua-cam.com/video/jl16NrhGxQM/v-deo.html
Can’t fix stupid
@@imlashn7677 You certainly showed us ;-)
Why is there a random voice that keeps disrupting the video? so infuriating, Please have the voice Knock it off.
Second person talking is a waste of time, obnoxious!
Don't believe there's any such thing as too much knowledge! Always come away with some Nugget you didn't know
Were you too cheap to buy your boyfriend a lapel mic?
Yep! Next time he will have one. If we invite him back (ha!)
Chinese radios works best with rubber antenna only. It is suberb combination of bad antenna (rubber) and very sensitive receiver but without any filtering (baofeng) . If you put a good mobile antenna or even house antenna on baofeng you will receive NOTHING. Because it will overload receiver. Now go and research.
I used a Baofang F8-HP as a base station, connected too a base antenna on a 15 foot mast. And it worked just fine. Had no problems and no complaints from other Hams in my area. Don't know what your talking about.
@james hart neither does he.
@@jasgk74 I mean I still have my Baofeng radio and its got an Abbree 18 inch "Tactical" antenna, and works great. Funny how this Novak fella hasn't answered me.
Hey Novak! I don't have to do any research. I've been a ham since 2016. Started with a Baofeng radio, still have it. First thing I did was get a better antenna for it, and it worked and still works great. Your making a claim and not giving any evidence to back it up. And I am informing people that the Baofeng works great on a new antenna. So give me your references. If you dare.
@@longrider42 Evidence: try make QSO in urban area on 2m band with Rubber antena and than with good mobile antena and you will see. And you would know what I'm talking about if you would research on the net. Ive been HAM since 1994 starting with Kenwood. So stop talkin trash and buy real HAM radio!