The wave isn't about liking each other's bike, or style, or anything like that. It's about acknowledging that were both out here, enjoying the ride. It's just wishing each other a safe ride, 2 wheels down, get there safe, have fun.
Right on brother, we’re all just enjoying the ride at the end of the day right, being courteous to your fellow drivers and having a good time is what it’s about.
Well,it seems to me that most or at least the newest generation,of Harley riders are watching too much Sons of Anarchy,trying to act all though and we own the road attitude,and if one doesn’t drive another Harley…they don’t even wave or anything
Harley rider here. I always wave and I would never, under any circumstances, drink while I'm on the bike. Ever. Period. Drinking and then getting on a bike will always be a terrible decision. There's no excuse for it.
Good luck brother, life is better clean/sober (37 years) and when you are my age you’ll still be riding bro ..(50 yrs/still going cross country) @@UnderestimatedA1
I don't ride with out a helmet, in my state it's the law. When I go somewhere you can, I still wear a helmet. Kinda like the seat belt law, just got use to, so I always buckle up,. Now I do get friends trying to get me to wear a better helmet. Mine is dot, but the , a beanie style. Hell I admire the nuts I see dodging the pot hole with those tiny wheels. Keep your knees in the wind.
I am a Harley owner and rider . I choose to wear gear when I ride . I also respect all motorcycles and riders and always acknowledge them. For Me it’s all about riding and the freedom that comes with it. Everyone ride safe
Im 55, just bought a 2015 Katana, riders have waved to me, I dont have the skill to take my hand off yet, but once that comes I will initiate the wave. Ride safe and have fun.
@@lunchonaskyscaper ,don’t worry about it brother,specially when you see a harley devidson bike,a lot of them do the same to sport bike guys,they don’t even look at you ,don’t wave,no nod or nothing at all,so just keep doing what you’re doing 👍
I ride a Harley , and will frequently see Harley riders not waving back to me. Always, a full bagger, riding in group, no helmet, and no wave. I love riding my Harley, but often don’t care for the typical Harley rider. 🤷♂️
Rode a Harley, got sucked up in the Harley culture and HOG group think, had an intervention and detox, switched to a BMW, much, much happier. Life after Harley is so plesent.
Back in July of this year, 2023, I was on the I-33 going around Marysville, OH (A lot of good American built Honda Motorcycles use to be built in Marysville) and noticed a decent group of about 13 bikes coming up around me. As they passed me I noticed darn near every bike was a BMW ( 1200 series, K 1600 series mostly and one Honda sport bike ). They all had one thing in common, including the ones with women passengers. Helmets, and armoured clothing and proper boots. I have never owned a BMW, my main bike since 2017 is a Victory Cross Country, however I had a lot of respect for that group.
Harleys are bad motorcycles compared to virtually every other motorcycle available in the American market. Harley riders are doomed to idiocy/image-seeking from the start.
I agree with your views, at 54 years old I just wish everyone would just act like a simple decent human being, I think this world would be much different.
Been riding over 50 years. All makes and models. These days it’s a KLR. I wave at everyone. Whether it’s reciprocated or not, I enjoy the ride. As far as gear I wear it all the time. Had I not had my helmet on in 2008 I wouldn’t have survived. As it was it left me temporarily paralyzed. To each their own. Ride smart and be safe.
I ride a Kawasaki and a Harley-Davidson. I wear full gear every time I ride. I took a 15 mph spill on my Kawasak while back road ADV riding (dirt) a couple weeks ago and that taught me I was right to wear my gear. My jacket and pants saved me from a knee injury and kept my skin intact. I also wear that gear every time I ride my H-D. I don't care if people think I look goofy or I'm not fashionable.
That is correct i have the same , a good rider makes a better driver !, i think it is because that is if you ride your bike you realize that you are more vulnerable !
@@Vapourwear true enough...the closest I feel 50 mph while not on a bike is in a jeep with no doors and that hardly comes close. Inside a car with the windows up, you might as well be playing a video game as well insulated against the weather, noise, wind, and speed.
As a person who doesn't ride a motorcycle, I don't hate HD riders....but....pretty much every time I encounter someone on a motorcycle who's gone out of their way to be obnoxiously loud, that person is riding a HD. In the video this is chalked up to possible jealousy but for people who don't ride and are just going about their lives, no, it isn't jealousy. At all. I think the feeling of people like me is "If you want to ride a motorcycle that's awesome, you should absolutely do it. If you want to wear no protective gear, well, that wouldn't be my choice but you do you, that's also awesome. But respect goes both ways and when you blast your engine just for the sake of blasting your engine, you're basically screaming at me, and that's not cool at all."
I can certainly understand why you feel the way you do. Not speaking of your reasons, but there are also a lot of nervous drivers on the road that really just get surprised and scared by sudden loud sounds, so I can see how this could be viewed as annoying. I am not sure what you mean by "going out of their way to be obnoxiously loud," but obviously there is a minority of obnoxious people in ever group of every kind of people, not just bikers; however, as a Harley rider with fairly loud pipes, I do know that most of us are NOT doing it to be obnoxious. It is more of a safety issue for most of us. Think of how many times you might have heard a motorcycle beside you before you seen them. We have cars come over in our lanes and risk running us off the road all the time. The first thing a car driver says is "I did not know you were there." Bikes are much smaller than cars, and they tend to get lost in the side view mirrors and blind spots quit easily. We rev our pipes up in an attempt to help drivers identify that we are there. I know whenever I am rolling up to a stop in traffic beside other vehicles, I will rev my pipes loud enough to warn others that I am there so they will not suddenly change lanes and crash into me; but I do try to do this with respect and restraint to keep it to a minimum decibel level.
@@Chris-rg4jx What I meant by "going out of their way to be obnoxiously loud" I mostly meant people who unnecessarily rev their engines at lights in urban areas. Certainly riders on other brands do this, but my experience is that Harleys are the biggest culprits. As an aside, I've seen several motorcycle channels asserting that the belief that "loud pipes save lives" is a myth not born out by science. I have no idea if that's true or not. But if it is true, it seems odd that riders on one particular brand of motorcycle would rev their engines more than others. If it were about safety, you'd also expect people riding the noisiest motorcyces to also wear the most protective gear, no? But if anything the opposite is the case. Regardless, in urban settings it certainly feels like it's not about safety, and is instead similar to people who have massive sound systems in their cars and blast their music for the rest of the world to hear. Both seem about ego and imposition.
@@ArchilochusOfParosI I do know that you experiencing Harley Davidson riders do it more is mathematically reasonable based off the law of average. Since there are more Harley Davidson’s on the roads in the United States than any other make or model of bike, it is reasonable to presume that you will have more interaction with Harley Davidson’s than any of the others. I think most people’s perception of bikers in general comes from Harley riders due to this fact. As for those who make the argument that there is no scientific evidence that loud pipes save lives, we do not always need a scientific study to prove things we are able to comprehend through basic common sense. I feel the scenario I gave above was a pretty valid and reasonable example as to how sound can improve bikers chances of being noticed on the road. Human beings have five “scientifically proven” senses; eyes are just one of those senses. Whenever we stimulate more than one of those senses, we increase the amount of information available to us, thereby increasing our perception of our surroundings. It’s really not rocket science. As to what the actual motives are of “those” who are in denial of this, I cannot say, but too each their own I guess. Live and let live.
@@Chris-rg4jx While it's true that HD has the largest market share of any single motorcycle manufacturer in the US, HD has a minority market share overall at 23.4%. In any case, as I mentioned, if loud engine revving were for safety then I'd expect HD riders to also be the ones wearing the most protective gear but, if anything, protective gear seems to run counter to the general HD ethos. Now, to be fair, while I find HD riders the most annoying group of riders in urban settings, I also find them to be among the best on the highways. While sport bike riders are more likely to speed and weave, HD riders generally hang out peacefully in their lanes. On the highways, HD are some of my favorites.
@@ArchilochusOfParos Fair enough my friend; I do appreciate the respectful conversation. As for the safety gear, I can only speak for myself on this issue. Yes, I am concerned for my safety as noted in our conversation, but I also want to enjoy my ride. Wearing all leather, full face helmets, or other full clothing with body armor is miserable and suffocating in the hot summer months. The heat I feel and the sweat constantly running down my face and body makes the ride totally not enjoyable for me, and if I am not enjoying my ride, why should I ride at all? I do wear all the gear in the cooler parts of the year. Yes, I know it is dangerous not to at all times, but life has risk; we just have to weigh the risk vs. reward, and that conclusion is different for each individual. For the record, I grew up on sport bikes. I mostly had Honda’s, but I owned a Kawasaki and a Suzuki at one time also. I have nothing negative to say about those bikes; I enjoyed and loved them immensely! This is actually my first time owning a Harley and I am loving it every bit as much as my other bikes. I had racing headers put on most of my sports bikes, so they were every bit as loud as my Harley is. My gear back than in summer was tennis shoes and T-shirts; at least I wear boots, gloves, and a leather vest now, so partially a step in the right direction I guess. Take care!
I owned 14 Harleys for over 25 years. I was in an MC. I bought a Kawasaki Concours 14. I ride all year long. I can no longer do the image, polishing chrome, or the old guy midlife crisis anymore. I wanted to enjoy riding something that didn’t cost as much as a car and has modern technology and just wanted to enjoy the ride, by myself.
I sold my HD, kept my 20 yr old metric cruiser, and snagged a Concours. Now I own my 2 favorite forever bikes, one is a rolling recliner, the other a rolling rocket.
Enjoying riding your motorcycle? No way, it's supposed to be about the image and being seen and being heard, and making others think about you what you want them to think about you. As for me, I had a motorcycle when I was 16. My divorced dad took it from me because his live in nut bucket decided she liked it. So I abhor motorcycles, glazed donuts, Siamese cats, catholics, american pony cars, and liver. She had a vaginal yeast infection, and it got into his sinusses. They kept accusing each other of infidelity. Hating HD riders? No way, not if they do their own maintenance.
Nearly the same deal here. Nothing against H-D, but I picked up a lightly used '16 Concours 14 two years ago and found out what a "real bike" actually consists of.
Exactly. I agree with you, Ride your own bike and don’t worry about anybody else is doing as far as Harley riders. That’s a bunch of bullshit doesn’t matter what kind of motorcycle you’re on as far as waving to people I’m tired of lifting my left hand up to wave all the damn time.
The next subject he talks about is revving your motor up. We all do it if you’re cool about riding your Harley you don’t need to rev your engine you get more respect from not being obnoxious and revving your engine and people just look at you as a punk ass, and no not everybody does it not everybody weaves in and out of traffic not everybody needs to show off it’s like why would you do a podcast with rifles and guns in your backdrop that’s just a sign of insecurity more so than popularity or trying to be a tough guyI said it bothers me these people get on here and they don’t know what the hell they’re talking about and on the first person to call somebody out I don’t have a problem with that
The day my dad graduated from high school, he bought a brand new 1955 PanHead. When I finished US Navy boot camp, he gave me the bike. It was my only transportation for 15 years, until I left for University in Germany in August 1995. I never felt hated for riding a Harley-Davidson. Often, other riders on other bike brands, would comment on how much they wished they had a classic Harley-Davidson, and how lucky I was to have it.
@@clarson2916 People nowadays, specifically the younger generation, don't know what a normal human interaction is like. Every thing is binary and everything is so serious. A very valid comment would be about motorcycle clubs who for the most part ride Harleys, trying to impose their roleplaying on other road users.
I ride Harley Davidson, many riders think they’re tough guys just because they can afford a HD. Bullsh1t SOA wanna be. It’s very annoying especially if you’re riding in a 1% club. Be who you are, enjoy the ride, owning a brand of bike doesn’t mean you can take a beating.
I ride a 2003 Honda VTX1800R. My Harley buddies are pretty cool, but I’ve seen some of these things. My favorite is my buddies jokingly call mine a "Hardly Davidson." I love it, told em to bring me a badge for my tank.
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr i like both. One day I plan to own a shovelhead. I'll probably put a tiny shovel on it to go with the old joke, "why do they call it a shovelhead? Gotta stop every few miles and shovel up all the pieces that fell off." Both are cool to me, I just love my VTX cause its my 1st bike. Honda is cool. I plan to own a CT125 or the like as well. Cheers!
I have not felt any hate toward or from Harley riders. I ride a Honda and wave at everyone with the exception that I am engaged in a situation that needs full attention. I'd rather be rude than have a mishap. Safe riding to everyone. Thanks for a great video.
I grew up on sports bikes. I ride a Harley now, and I always wave at everyone when I see them and not working the clutch; heck, I even gave the two down wave to a young lady on a scooter the other day. I figured she is in the beginning stages of her motorized two wheel journey, and I wanted to encourage her.
I ride a Harley and have owned 4 other bikes from different manufacturers. All riders get the same feeling as me. I do not recommend to anyone, what bike to buy or ride. We all our grown and have our own preference.
I am a Harley rider and I’m proud of it but I don’t do the stupid things that most riders do and I respect all other motorcycle enthusiast as long as respect the roads, the people around us and the people that ride with us that’s the main thing and the ride
Ha, I’m a sport bike rider and I will say, you will NEVER catch my ass riding without full gear. Even if I’m just making a quick run to the store. I’ve seen WAYY too many accidents with people not wearing proper gear, and I am absolutely not taking that chance because it looks awful lol. As far as other people not wearing gear? Well, I judge, albeit silently. I’m not gonna tell others how to ride. Your bike, your body, your will.. but, that being said, I do think it’s a real bad idea to not wear the right gear.
I can agree with most of your points except, Noisy Davidsons or other piped Vtwins that are ridden to be obnoxious and actually hurt your ears as they blast through the neighborhood are not cool. Riders like this are crying out for attention and for people to look at them. They have no class.
Right in the middle of this video I got an ad from Viking Bags showing a girl on a Harley wearing tights, a small tank top, and a half helmet to show off her caterpillar eye lashes.
I'm 76, closing in on 77 and just bought a HD, even tho I haven't ridden in a long time. I decided that I needed some adventure in my life hence the bike. I looked at Indians & Triumphs, but Harley is America's bike. I'm excitedly looking forward to riding season (May - September here in Michigan), just need to find someone to ride with (or not). Wish me luck, maybe I'll see you at Sturgis.
Always full face helmet. gloves with knuckles. And good boots. Wearing a jacket and chaps is a plus but obviously in the summertime we want to enjoy it but never without gloves or full face helmet. Save my life twice. Just bought another bike three weeks ago. After a year of recovery from a hit and run.
I've always worn a helmet for as long as I've been riding. I started out with a 3/4 helmet when I first started riding at about 7 years of age. At around 12, I got my first full-face helmet, and I've owned quite a few of them. At around 50, I got my first modular, and for me, that's the way to go. While I don't always wear the proper gear, due to the excessive heat in southern Louisiana, leather boots, gloves, and a modular helmet are mandatory for me. Waving is something I do, no matter what somebody is riding. While I've never had a sport bike (not my style), I've had mini-bikes, motocross bikes, and cruisers, and they were all Japanese. So, to me, "It's not what you ride it's that you ride." It's really hard to believe how many sales people at a Harley dealership are Harley "snobs". I walked right out of a dealership after the salesman I was talking to started making stupid remarks about the Suzuki Volusia I was riding, and I was thinking about trading it in for a Road Glide. As it turned out, the Indian dealer didn't seem to have the same problem with my bike, and I bought a 2022 Pursuit Limited, and Indian gave me twice the trade-in price Harley was going to give me and threw in a driver backrest. Riding brings me relaxation and peace of mind. Now that I've retired, it's even better because now there is no timeline to be back on a Monday morning. Keep up the videos.
One reason I now own TWO Indians. The Harley dealer in my own town went out of business. I’ve Road Harley’s my whole life and was thinking about getting another but I bought another Indian instead. Why? Because the idiot CEO of Harley announced to the world that they are converting their ENTIRE motorcycle fleet to Electric. They have also added Made in China bikes to their fleet. Harley is DEAD. Now I won’t even walk into a Harley dealership anymore. If they think I’m trading my Indian in for an electric one they have SHIT FOR BRAINS!!! Them COMMIE BASTARDS will have to SHOOT ME off of mine
My reasons are the way I have been treated by them, right from the start. I took the MSF class, after I bought a Honda Rebel 500 from a friend, never rode before. Class was at a Harley dealership, and from the moment I mentioned what bike I had when they asked if any of us already owned one, they treated me like crap. The class was done on Street 500s, understandable, but the whole time these guys just kept pushing how Harley was the only bike to get, mocking why anyone would get a non Harley, things like that. I did the class, did the final drill better than half the students, they still failed me. One dude even dumped the bike first try in the box, they let him go again. I got it first time through. When I asked what I did to fail they said you know why and walked away. Got into a class a few months later at a tech school, and I passed with flying colors.
Think about how hard it is for the new CEO who wants to diversify the brand to new riders and the hate they get when they want to change. The whole brand is broken.
So as a Harley rider and Honda and by the Grace of God 47 years in the saddle I'll tell you I'd personally have that Honda over any 500/750 Harley Street POS . Fact . They had them bikes as stated as learner school bikes to encourage the younger set to get into their bikes . But now they don't even sell them anymore, dropped from the lineup. My buddie had a 750 street , it could move out but butt ugly in my opinion and the rear cylinder base was always puking antifreeze ( water cooled) . So stick with the Honda man . If anyone is a wannabe it's those street riders.🤔😁😎
Sounds like your Harley instructors were a bunch of jerks. Did they think their attitudes would somehow endear you to the Harley brand? I love my Harley in spite of what anyone else thinks. Have owned 4 Harleys. Liked one, hated one and loved two. Most Harley riders are decent people but when I tell them that I prefer my victory for cross country trips,13 states this year, I do get strange reactions from some 😊.
Time to name and shame the class at the Hartley dealer. Here in the UK, they're known as "Hardly Ables" cos they're hardly able to go 12:33 round corners. Even my old GS750 handled way better than a Hartley.
I don’t fit into most of these categories either. I don’t really wash my bikes, but I do wipe them down and mainly clean off the dead bugs. I also always wave if I can. If I don’t, it’s because I just didn’t see them until it was too late. I’m focusing more on traffic ahead of me and I sometimes won’t see another rider until they are already passing.
Great video! I think that you nailed it. I'm a Harley rider and for the most part couldn't care less what you ride. The exceptions are: if you ride a Harley, we probably have more to talk about; if you ride a Softail (which I ride), we have have a little more to talk about; if you ride a Sport Glide (my bike), we have a lot more to talk about. On the other hand, if you don't ride a Harley, I may lean something from you. I suppose that's true about pretty much anything though. Keep up the great work!
I had a few Harley riders hated on me already. One saying, nice scooter to me like his bike is better than mine, another look at me making fun of my sportbike by acting like he was on a sportbike looking at me. Since then I stopped acknowledging people. We are all motorcycle riders we should respect each other.
when my girlfriend was learning to ride, she finally bought a little ninja 300, and I got her to go out on the roads, the first person to give her the biker wave was an old grizzled up harley guy, on a big bagger, she was so excited lol, yeah they don’t always wave , it neither do guys on sport bikes. ride your ride, ride YOUR bike. who cares at the end of the day we’re all on two wheels. I even wave to mopeds idgaf they are on surface streets on two wheels.👍🏻👍🏻
I agree with you. I currently am riding a Triumph. I wave at all riders if I can free my left hand. I've had a few Harley riders not wave back at me, I don't take it personal. The guys most likely NOT to wave back are the sport bike guys in my experiance. Guess they are afraid to take their hand of the bars at 150mph. They might be right, I'll never know. Don't want to. A friend of mine who rides a old school Harley bagger with chrome everything but tires told me this; "as long as "their knees are in the breeze", they are bikers. Wave to them, stop and help them if they need it, just like you'd want them to do for you. It's a 2 wheel club, not a name brand or v-twin, or inline deuce club. 2 wheels, gas engine= Biker. I rarely ever see a Moped, but I'd probably just wave at them too.
You also have to figure sometimes the person didn't see you or are "in the zone" which is kind of dangerous as they probably aren't paying full attention.
I wave at bicyclists; they're working harder than I am on the road and have less ability to get out of someone's way if things go bad. Plus I commuted on a bicycle for many years before I could afford a motorcycle, so they have my respect.
@@davebrunson125 It's not perfect, and not particularly fast by my context but very fun and reliable so far. Fast enough for me now. Still gives the rush.
Sometimes, people just miss the wave entirely or they are not comfortable yet removing a hand off their handlebars (me for most of this year). As you do not know the experience of the oncoming rider. With me being a new rider and just about to finish up my first season of riding. I know I have missed the waves entirely by concentrating on the vehicles around me or the other reasons you mentioned. I feel bad for missing the waves every time, and I have shrugged off the times I didn't receive 1 back. Awesome content.
True... sometimes I'm just focused on the road, if I missed returning the salutation it's never intentional. But most times I always try and return it. 👍🏻
I wave usually. I don't care what you're on. I even wave to mopeds. If I don't then I was zoned out, in traffic and concentrating on the car in front of me or just saw you too late. I ride a Harley Fat Boy and often don't get waves from other Harley riders either so. I dunno.
I ride a 2022 g310gs. I am a new rider with just over 1500 miles and I always feel guilty when I don't wave but every wave or head nod has been reciprocated. I love this community
I always wave to other riders . Always have. But riding with my wife I noticed she never waves to anyone. When I asked her about it she said she's just focused on the road and doesn't even notice other riders. I'm not sure how that works but ok. I'm from NC and to be honest I had never seen other riders who didn't wave until I spent a couple of years in Florida.
I ride with my wife also she always says she doesn't get waved back to and I always get a return wave she cant get no respect it accually pisses her off I just laugh
I have a Harley Street Bob and a Kawasaki Vulcan S. I wave at everyone when I can. Sometimes I just can't, like you said there are a lot of things that can keep you from waving. I ride to work at 5 am and the sprinklers in the esplanade's are on at that time so polishing every day is not happening. I wear full gear and full face helmet. Because that's my choice just as its other peoples choice not to. Here in Houston Texas it's hot and I see a lot of ridders on all sorts of bikes lacking gear due to the heat. I won't wear my jacket some rides if I'm not getting on the highway. I have met Harley snobs and street bike snobs. Most ridders I meet are chill and just see it as being on two wheels is all that matters.
Don't be hating on mopeds Hegshot! I have two Harleys, but when my wife wants to ride her moped, I hop on mine and ride mine too! And I have to say, they're a lot of fun!
I've been riding for 30 years and I've been on Harleys for the last 20. I find I prefer to ride alone because riders in groups tend to do dumb things or turn everything into a competition. Then you get the douchebags that think the price of their bike establishes some kind of pecking order. I don't mind riding alongside a good friend once in awhile but groups of Harley riders often annoy me despite being on a Harley myself. I'll stop and help a broke down bike and I wish my fellow riders the best but I've discovered I prefer using my riding time to get away from other people, not be with them.
Years ago I used to be a heavy drinker. Fortunately I quick drinking alcohol before I started riding motorcycles. When I'm out riding I'm in high alert at all times. You see all kinds of things going on that could potentially kill you that you don't see or think about when driving a vehicle. So you owe it to yourself to be your best when riding a motorcycle.
I passed a group of about 30 Harley riders going 15 km's an hour under speed limit, and they were not happy. My brother rides a Harley and when I ride with him he goes so slow. Is this normal for Harley riders?
Those pile of shit Hardley Makeitson's won't move any faster. That's why they always have that pissed off look on their face. Think about it. You would be mad too if you had to ride one of those pile's of shit.. A bike that could have been built in the 1920's and they pay today's price for it.
I used to not give a shit what other riders wore safety wise until I had a chat with a considered rider at a MC Rally a while back. He pointed out that if some idiot crashes on the boulevard, wearing his tshirt, flipflops and shorts, thats now one less emergency room bed. Then there's the staff, specialists etc when he may have limped away. Now some other human who wasn't being reckless and needs emergency services are being shunted in an ambulance. When I think of freedom, I think about civic duty as well. The only reason we are Free is because of consideration of our selves and our impact on others around us.
Years ago when I first started riding, if someone didn’t wave back I thought what the heck man. But I don’t think twice about it anymore. Probably only the newer riders are bothered by it.
My only peeve about the HD rider are the ones who practically don’t have a muffler. The ones where the DBs are off the charts and assault your hearing from miles away. I understand trying to be heard for safety, but It’s the “look at me, I’m cool” factor that exudes extreme selfishness.
You simply have NO comprehension of as to why some pipes are loud. Yes, one can put louder pipes on a bike, but when one has a BIG displacement engine, one ends up have to make their OWN stepped headers to get the engine breathing right. So blame YOUR E.P.A. for the headaches you seem to suffer from.
I ride a Harley, but have not been riding very long (two years). Our group consists of Harley and non-Harley alike, and I've seen none of this. Sounds like I have a lot to look forward to. Ha! Always enjoy the content, sir!
You haven’t encountered this behavior because only a small minority of Harley riders ruin the reputation for the rest of us. I own both Harleys and non-Harleys and ride them all. I rarely encounter motorcycle riders who aren’t cool, love the hobby, and appreciate all motorcycles. Doesn’t matter the ride, there will always be dipshits.
I ride a Ducati on race tracks and, for the first time ever, I bought myself a Street Glide Special for the road last year. I absolutely love it as I do my Ducati on the track - different tools for different jobs. Riding through the whole of Europe, I was filtering on the autobahn in a traffic jam and I had two GS1250 riders deliberately block me from filtering - no reason - just ignorant Harley hating Germans. Really surprised me. But it was the only incident on the whole 2000 mile trip.
@@64Goef Nope. It’s totally legal in German autobahns, UK and in the rest of Europe. The only place where I’ve heard it being illegal is in some States and Canada.
@@JR-gc5ef In Germany and France its still not legal as per 2023. Not saying that its not happening but if the police stops you its defenitly costing you money.
Loud pipes! They are a nuisance to other people and no good for the general image of motorcycling, and it seems to me that a disproportionate number of Harley owners fit them on their bikes, compared to owners of other brands. If they would stop doing that, my guess is that most people would just ignore them rather than hate them. The question is, would they prefer being ignored?
In over 45 years of riding it's a little hard not to notice that some , no all but some newer riders have a real bad case of I am better than you. I will tell you this I have been on almost every kind of motorcycle , big , small, Harley chopper , bobber you name it and I am not a prick about it. I worked at a Harley Parts Warehouse in California. Newer Harley's do nothing for me at all but I love 1970's Shovelheads and own two. I have way more respect for older riders and older H-D's. Show some respect for old school riders.
A couple comments: 1) The wave - I wave at other riders as a prayer that each of us has a safe ride. I don’t take it personally when someone doesn’t return it. 2) Cleaning - I’m a serial bug killer. I kill bugs, clean them off and then kill more. I do a cursory wipe down if there’s any dust or the previous ride had rain. Keep up the good work, Howard!!
I think of riders not wearing a helmet similarly to how I view open-carry among the public. In both situations, it’s more comfortable and can be “freer” and I support a person’s ability to do either. But those are not the choices I make for various reasons. Everyone has to live (or die) with the consequences of the choices they make. I choose to wear a good helmet and carry concealed. For everyone else, you do you. I ride a Harley. As for waving to others, I wave to anyone riding… even scooters. Most of the time, they’ll wave back, but occasionally they won’t. I usually chalk it up to them being otherwise occupied because sometimes that same thing sometimes happens to me in reverse. Hell, yesterday I waved to a dude on what looked like an e-bicycle. He had a confused look on his face. 😂
Last time i road my bike it took both hands and both feet to operate, i can drive a car with one hand and one foot which do you think requires more focus and concentration
Well I am old. I don’t wear gear but since my wife decided full gear is cumbersome, I removed the passenger pegs and pillion. Back when the road was less crowded and the speed was 55mph we had the time of our lives squiding around in sub-one hundred horsepower motorcycles, of which non-Harleys felt like recycled aluminum and sounded like lawnmowers. Sad to see it go. Sad to see all the results of decades of governmental grift also. 😥
Man oh man you are so right about the Govt Grift. So irritating to see elected bureaucrats take freedoms away from “We The People”. Forcing us to all go electric when they pollute the environment more and rely on slave labor in places like the Congo to make those batteries. Real freedom is the freedom to choose and not being penalized for not jumping on the environmental communist movement. Capitalism is about letting the consumer decide and lies and coercion.
Love your comments, spot on! I started riding a Honda 90 in 1969 as a teenager, then to a Honda 350 twin, 500 four and to a '93 Harley that a rode for 25 years and sold to a police officer (he got a great deal) but now ride a Suzuki and KTM as I live in Southern California and am addicted to Baja and desert riding and occasionally on my BMW R 1200RT for street riding. Most (95% at least) Harley riders wave at me and I've been to many biker bars in SoCal and everyone gets along very well and helps each other out.
It's political. Harley riders tend to be more conservative, metric riders lean more liberal. In these times, that's all that's required for people to hate each other.
Triumph rider. I do not mind the loud v-twin noise. What I get annoyed by (and it’s big cruisers not necessarily Harleys) is the blaring music from some of the bigger bike speakers. I find it both obnoxious and distracting. You get better sound (and are safer) if you wear a helmet with speakers inside.
I ride BMW, Yamaha, Kawasaki. Not a fan of Harley or Harley riders. Yes, making a broad generalization here, but overall, I dislike the Harley culture. It’s a a clique . It’s like back in high school again or maybe college frat. You’re one of us, or you’re not. Harley logo on everything, clothes, back of truck, etc. The whole image that Harley riders keep pushing. And yes, I also wait before I throw down the wave when I see Harleys coming because I know when another rider passes by me and doesn’t return the wave, it’s always a guy on a Harley cruiser. Sport bike riders, ADV riders, classic motorcycles…always wave back. And don’t get me started on “Loud pipes save lives” and shit like that. How hateful is everyone in town when they’re enjoying a Sunday with their families, walking around, sitting an an outdoor cafe/restaurant enjoying food and conversation, when some guys on Harleys roll through with old pipes and raving the engines. I could go and on.
I have never owned one but I like HD riders and bikes. The machines usually need some maintenance and owners always like to change things up a bit when nothing else is needed. I wave at all of them when I am on my sportbike, enduros, or even my moped. They may be my next customer! I don't care what you ride, just love to see others riding.
Kris Kristofferson did a song with the line in it, “Everybody needs somebody to look down on; help yourself to me”. That pretty much sums it up for me. I don’t give a damm what anybody thinks. I ride Harleys and it’s because I like them. As for “the wave”, Harley bikers invented that act of respect. I always do it and I do it to every rider I see.
If I notice them in time I try to wave to all bikers on all types of bikes cool bikes, performance bikes, muscle cruisers, and even to Harley's.😂😂😂 Hey I figured to each his own and whatever it is that the hardly owners get out of preparing their bikes all the time I guess it's similar to what I get out of writing mine. But I don't enjoy the hardly owners to come through my neighborhood late at night revving the bikes it just seems overly rude for no purpose. I mean if you enjoy the sound of an engine tearing itself apart that's fine and all but do you have to intentionally make that as loud as possible and then blare your radio as loud as possible? some people haven't retired yet and have to get up for work. Oh well first world problems I guess. It's fun to stereotype but stereotyping aside I've met plenty of Harley riders who were actually cool people. LOL
I have been riding for about 40 years my current ride is a 1948 FL II don't give a tinkers damn what or how you ride as long as you don't endanger myself or my friends. The last thing the motorcycle world needs is a devisive video like this. If you give respect you will be treated with respect I am not a cop, I am not hear to tell anyone what to do or how to do it. If you see someone riding without a helmet, mind your business, they could be returning from a funeral run or they may be overheated from wearing that lid. If you go around calling people names for choosing to excersise their freedoms you are cruising for a bruising.
UL rider here, I choose to ride a Harley by virtue of the fact that it’s the best fit for me. The ultra limited is a very expensive bike and is the flagship of the Harley line so I’m proud of ownership. I keep my bike clean and polished for that very reason. How many of us have seen people on sport bikes who are virtually naked wearing beachsandals and shorts.
Sometimes I wear a helmet, sometimes I don't, but I think it's silly for ppl to get upset about what other people wear. People who wear full track gear to go down to the strip mall to sip coffee for instance...lmfao. I like clean bikes, but I don't like doing the cleaning..:/ If I go to the garage to see my bike, it's usually to ride. I also have a really long dirt driveway too, so, as soon as I leave, it's already dirty right off the bat anyway :/ :/ and yes, everyone revs their engines...admittedly, sometimes it's just to make sure the bike stays running haha.
People who don't wear helmets and protective gear has more likely to be seriously injured or even die, that's give the reson to Insurance companies race insurance premiums for everyone so think about that too!
What stuns me is the price you'd pay for a Harley and what you actually get for your money. Way overpriced, marginal performance, dependability issues, etc.
Harley riders feel the freedom of the ride! Do we always wave at oncoming bikers? Not always, but there's a reason why. Most of it is traffic, or what's going on up ahead. It doesn't mean we are stuck up, no that's not it. You're riding on a 1000 pound bike and sometimes even a wave can put you in dire straights! I've seen too many accidents because someone isn't paying attention. Most everyone waves when it's safe to do so, nobody wants to wreck their scooter and end up in the Horsepistol!? Lol! It reminds me of when I drove Semi Truck and Trailer! All Semi Drivers wave to other Semi Drivers, and 10 wheeler drivers wave to other 10 wheeler drivers, and nobody waves to bobtail drivers!! Lmfao!!!!! Drive Safe Everyone, and Stop Texting!!
I ride a Harley Davidson, for 40 years, now. I used to ride a Honda. Both are fine bikes. I don’t drink. I have ridden to rallies, years ago. I ride alone and don’t ride to rallies anymore. I enjoy the ride. Sometimes I wave. Sometimes my hands are occupied. NOBODY gives a s#;t, NOBODY. I ride when it suits me, where it suits me. I still enjoy eating at mom and pop restaurants, rather than franchise fast food places. Thanks, from…east Tennessee.
Hate seeing riders not wearing helmets. I always wear a helmet especially since my daughter came into this world. doesn't matter how good of rider you are you can't control the person in the car next to you. I do see a lot of riders not wearing helmets probably 90% of those being Harleys. In my opinion, especially if you have a family, not wearing a helmet is one of the most selfish things you can do. Riding is a dangerous hobby, and I love riding as it helps me clear my head, but I'm also going to make sure I take the precautions to make it back to my family in one piece or at least alive in the worst scenario of a crash.
Harley riders in Australia mainly only wear useless brain bucket helmets, because helmets are required by law. Crazy how helmets aren’t mandatory in the USA. It’s also crazy to not wear a full faced helmet. I have a friend who rides a Harley and has suffered for years wearing a brain bucket helmet just because of the image. I just tease him about it now … 😂
IMO, the Harley gang mentality is the biggest problem, with the threat of violence, intimidation. I rode in California for many years on various Japanese bikes, and the HD gangs were the worst. I knew a few individual solo Harley riders and they were good, nice people. So as part of a gang you give up your individual right/wrong decision making, and become part of group think. All gangs lead to problems, whether Harley, microscooters, gang-bangers, etc.
I hate seeing bikes with strange shaped handlebars, simply because I've been down quite a few times, and know how bad the bike or car/vehicle can wound a person, I've had my hand impaled by a brake lever when I was run off the road into the grass. I've got three Harleys, a triumph, and I enjoy riding, regardless of the brand. I've always given the wave, and I've long given the wave to anyone on two wheels. "Keep riding and enjoy the day" is definitely the way to enjoy life. My daughter leans hard on me to quit riding because she's afraid I'll get hit and hurt. You either enjoy the ride, or just the pose, in my not very humble opinion. I built my last "chop" in 96, had a fine paint job for the first couple years, but it doesn't look anything like it did in this day and age. I started riding back in the sixties, riding just isn't the same in this day and age.
Great video and very good comments regarding HD riders. Like you I fit some of them but not all, I wear a full face helmet, gloves and a protective jacket when riding my Street Glide, if it's just around town I may just wear my leather vest but always full-face helmet and gloves. I don't do the biker bar scene, I will not drink and drive, but that's just me. I work in healthcare and have seen firsthand the trauma from motorcycle accidents.
I agree with your last part of the video 100% I do drink but won’t drink why I’m riding I think knowing your surroundings and Senses when riding is more important enjoyed the whole video as well
Very little waving in Australia. Mostly because on the other side of the road. Brake hand is on the lever and no fingers available. Not that common here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Plenty of us nod our heads, but rarely do old guys on Harleys or Adventure bikes. I find them comical … 😂 p.s. The right hand is on the throttle, so obviously can’t let go to wave. The brake lever has nothing to do with it unless you’re riding hard through the twisties …
First off, who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks. It's no one's business what another rider does. Wear what you want to wear. Mind your own business! We ALL know the risk.
The fact that you can take a look at a motorcycle brand and with almost 100% accuracy tell the level of safty gear, says all that needs to be said about the community pressure to fall in line
when a Harley rider doesn’t wave it makes them look like a douche and perpetuates their douchey image. It’s like seeing your neighbor outside, them waving hello and you just blatantly ignoring them. I’ve never had any other bike besides a Harley not wave or at least give the nod when they’re shifting or something and can’t wave.
I've been in the biker MC/ Harley- community for well enough 30 years now and to be frank, during all these years if there would have been any troubles like fights and such my experience is that it had always included at least one Harley-rider. Especially this later years when i've witness so many "dudelidudes" who bought the full monty of becoming a gang-member/brother. Bike, clothes, tats, made up life story, and most of all, -attitude. Dedicated fools with low self esteem. These guys often don't hang around for long. Either loudmouths who manage to erase themselfes or they put themselfes in situations where they upset someone else enough to shut them down. But what i've summoned up during these years is that they seldom show up on a Suzuki.
I respect and wave to anyone on two wheels even scooters but that’s a different wave. 20yr Harley rider love the culture and sounds of Harley Davidson respect others and yourself don’t drink and ride. Be safe and enjoy the wind.
The wave isn't about liking each other's bike, or style, or anything like that. It's about acknowledging that were both out here, enjoying the ride. It's just wishing each other a safe ride, 2 wheels down, get there safe, have fun.
Amen!
Right on brother, we’re all just enjoying the ride at the end of the day right, being courteous to your fellow drivers and having a good time is what it’s about.
I was driving the fast lane and a H-D rider was in the middle lane and gave a wave but I thought she was going into my lane but was waving .
I worked in the Harley world for 22 years. 85% of my customers were straight up out of that movie, Wild Hogs. Like watching kids on Halloween.
Well,it seems to me that most or at least the newest generation,of Harley riders are watching too much Sons of Anarchy,trying to act all though and we own the road attitude,and if one doesn’t drive another Harley…they don’t even wave or anything
Oh yeah... That wasnt even a satire. I seen that in real life. Just dudes having fun but knowing nothing about safety and respect.
lol, never saw the movie but got enough from commercials.
Harley rider here. I always wave and I would never, under any circumstances, drink while I'm on the bike. Ever. Period. Drinking and then getting on a bike will always be a terrible decision. There's no excuse for it.
iam harley rider and i always wave and never drink. never. This thinking about harley riders is worst then racism
I quit drinking partly to ride and it's definitely the way to go for shure. 15 months now still going strong.
Good luck brother, life is better clean/sober (37 years) and when you are my age you’ll still be riding bro ..(50 yrs/still going cross country)
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I don't ride with out a helmet, in my state it's the law. When I go somewhere you can, I still wear a helmet. Kinda like the seat belt law, just got use to, so I always buckle up,.
Now I do get friends trying to get me to wear a better helmet. Mine is dot, but the , a beanie style.
Hell I admire the nuts I see dodging the pot hole with those tiny wheels.
Keep your knees in the wind.
@@terryclay6668 I always wear helmet and gloves as well. Everytime. No excuses, but that's my standard for me.
I am a Harley owner and rider . I choose to wear gear when I ride . I also respect all motorcycles and riders and always acknowledge them. For
Me it’s all about riding and the freedom that comes with it. Everyone ride safe
Im 55, just bought a 2015 Katana, riders have waved to me, I dont have the skill to take my hand off yet, but once that comes I will initiate the wave. Ride safe and have fun.
That's exactly how it should be too. But unfortunately it isn't.
@@lunchonaskyscaper ,don’t worry about it brother,specially when you see a harley devidson bike,a lot of them do the same to sport bike guys,they don’t even look at you ,don’t wave,no nod or nothing at all,so just keep doing what you’re doing 👍
Been riding Harleys for many years. Over that time, I have never had a problem with anyone on any make of bike. Main thing is to ride.
I agree...enjoy the ride and be safe!
And make excessive, unnecessary noise and annoy the hell out of everyone around you.
Nothing ruins a peaceful morning like a Harley with straight pipes, or 10 of them going down the road...
I ride a Harley , and will frequently see Harley riders not waving back to me. Always, a full bagger, riding in group, no helmet, and no wave. I love riding my Harley, but often don’t care for the typical Harley rider. 🤷♂️
Rode a Harley, got sucked up in the Harley culture and HOG group think, had an intervention and detox, switched to a BMW, much, much happier. Life after Harley is so plesent.
being sucked anywhere is your fault only. riding a harley and never want to switch
Back in July of this year, 2023, I was on the I-33 going around Marysville, OH (A lot of good American built Honda Motorcycles use to be built in Marysville) and noticed a decent group of about 13 bikes coming up around me. As they passed me I noticed darn near every bike was a BMW ( 1200 series, K 1600 series mostly and one Honda sport bike ). They all had one thing in common, including the ones with women passengers. Helmets, and armoured clothing and proper boots. I have never owned a BMW, my main bike since 2017 is a Victory Cross Country, however I had a lot of respect for that group.
Harleys are bad motorcycles compared to virtually every other motorcycle available in the American market.
Harley riders are doomed to idiocy/image-seeking from the start.
@@wesspe81 but it has to suck riding a HD.
I would get married before I ever bought a Harley … 😂
I agree with your views, at 54 years old I just wish everyone would just act like a simple decent human being, I think this world would be much different.
A simple decent person would never ride an obnoxious chrome air compressor down our road at 5 AM !!! arrogant assholes at work here!!!
Been riding over 50 years. All makes and models. These days it’s a KLR. I wave at everyone. Whether it’s reciprocated or not, I enjoy the ride. As far as gear I wear it all the time. Had I not had my helmet on in 2008 I wouldn’t have survived. As it was it left me temporarily paralyzed. To each their own. Ride smart and be safe.
the KLR is for sure a right of passage bike , everyone i know has had at least 1
Love my KLR650
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My 2002 KLR is my best friend............ Always faithful.
KLR650 outstanding!
@@bobsullivan5714ur a KLR
Harley riders aren’t hated. They are laughed at.
Big difference.
Whatever makes you feel better about your own insecurities I guess !
Come on -
These people have paid a multi national corporation 20 - 30 - 40 thousand to be cool.
@@SongJLikes riight keyboard warrior real easy to talk shit from behind a computer screen, pussey
Riight keyboard warrior, real easy to talk shit from behind the keyboard, ain't it
@@EdwardTillotson-hj5pk yup the lib yards are brave hiding in their parents basement.
I ride a Kawasaki and a Harley-Davidson. I wear full gear every time I ride. I took a 15 mph spill on my Kawasak while back road ADV riding (dirt) a couple weeks ago and that taught me I was right to wear my gear. My jacket and pants saved me from a knee injury and kept my skin intact. I also wear that gear every time I ride my H-D. I don't care if people think I look goofy or I'm not fashionable.
Ive been riding for only 6 years and I notice the higher senses since riding. It makes me pay more attention driving too.
That is correct i have the same , a good rider makes a better driver !, i think it is because that is if you ride your bike you realize that you are more vulnerable !
@@richard2951960 Most people have no fucking clue how fast 50 mph is.
@@Vapourwear true enough...the closest I feel 50 mph while not on a bike is in a jeep with no doors and that hardly comes close. Inside a car with the windows up, you might as well be playing a video game as well insulated against the weather, noise, wind, and speed.
As a person who doesn't ride a motorcycle, I don't hate HD riders....but....pretty much every time I encounter someone on a motorcycle who's gone out of their way to be obnoxiously loud, that person is riding a HD. In the video this is chalked up to possible jealousy but for people who don't ride and are just going about their lives, no, it isn't jealousy. At all. I think the feeling of people like me is "If you want to ride a motorcycle that's awesome, you should absolutely do it. If you want to wear no protective gear, well, that wouldn't be my choice but you do you, that's also awesome. But respect goes both ways and when you blast your engine just for the sake of blasting your engine, you're basically screaming at me, and that's not cool at all."
I can certainly understand why you feel the way you do. Not speaking of your reasons, but there are also a lot of nervous drivers on the road that really just get surprised and scared by sudden loud sounds, so I can see how this could be viewed as annoying. I am not sure what you mean by "going out of their way to be obnoxiously loud," but obviously there is a minority of obnoxious people in ever group of every kind of people, not just bikers; however, as a Harley rider with fairly loud pipes, I do know that most of us are NOT doing it to be obnoxious. It is more of a safety issue for most of us. Think of how many times you might have heard a motorcycle beside you before you seen them. We have cars come over in our lanes and risk running us off the road all the time. The first thing a car driver says is "I did not know you were there." Bikes are much smaller than cars, and they tend to get lost in the side view mirrors and blind spots quit easily. We rev our pipes up in an attempt to help drivers identify that we are there. I know whenever I am rolling up to a stop in traffic beside other vehicles, I will rev my pipes loud enough to warn others that I am there so they will not suddenly change lanes and crash into me; but I do try to do this with respect and restraint to keep it to a minimum decibel level.
@@Chris-rg4jx What I meant by "going out of their way to be obnoxiously loud" I mostly meant people who unnecessarily rev their engines at lights in urban areas. Certainly riders on other brands do this, but my experience is that Harleys are the biggest culprits. As an aside, I've seen several motorcycle channels asserting that the belief that "loud pipes save lives" is a myth not born out by science. I have no idea if that's true or not. But if it is true, it seems odd that riders on one particular brand of motorcycle would rev their engines more than others. If it were about safety, you'd also expect people riding the noisiest motorcyces to also wear the most protective gear, no? But if anything the opposite is the case. Regardless, in urban settings it certainly feels like it's not about safety, and is instead similar to people who have massive sound systems in their cars and blast their music for the rest of the world to hear. Both seem about ego and imposition.
@@ArchilochusOfParosI I do know that you experiencing Harley Davidson riders do it more is mathematically reasonable based off the law of average. Since there are more Harley Davidson’s on the roads in the United States than any other make or model of bike, it is reasonable to presume that you will have more interaction with Harley Davidson’s than any of the others. I think most people’s perception of bikers in general comes from Harley riders due to this fact.
As for those who make the argument that there is no scientific evidence that loud pipes save lives, we do not always need a scientific study to prove things we are able to comprehend through basic common sense. I feel the scenario I gave above was a pretty valid and reasonable example as to how sound can improve bikers chances of being noticed on the road. Human beings have five “scientifically proven” senses; eyes are just one of those senses. Whenever we stimulate more than one of those senses, we increase the amount of information available to us, thereby increasing our perception of our surroundings. It’s really not rocket science. As to what the actual motives are of “those” who are in denial of this, I cannot say, but too each their own I guess. Live and let live.
@@Chris-rg4jx While it's true that HD has the largest market share of any single motorcycle manufacturer in the US, HD has a minority market share overall at 23.4%. In any case, as I mentioned, if loud engine revving were for safety then I'd expect HD riders to also be the ones wearing the most protective gear but, if anything, protective gear seems to run counter to the general HD ethos.
Now, to be fair, while I find HD riders the most annoying group of riders in urban settings, I also find them to be among the best on the highways. While sport bike riders are more likely to speed and weave, HD riders generally hang out peacefully in their lanes. On the highways, HD are some of my favorites.
@@ArchilochusOfParos Fair enough my friend; I do appreciate the respectful conversation. As for the safety gear, I can only speak for myself on this issue. Yes, I am concerned for my safety as noted in our conversation, but I also want to enjoy my ride. Wearing all leather, full face helmets, or other full clothing with body armor is miserable and suffocating in the hot summer months. The heat I feel and the sweat constantly running down my face and body makes the ride totally not enjoyable for me, and if I am not enjoying my ride, why should I ride at all? I do wear all the gear in the cooler parts of the year. Yes, I know it is dangerous not to at all times, but life has risk; we just have to weigh the risk vs. reward, and that conclusion is different for each individual.
For the record, I grew up on sport bikes. I mostly had Honda’s, but I owned a Kawasaki and a Suzuki at one time also. I have nothing negative to say about those bikes; I enjoyed and loved them immensely! This is actually my first time owning a Harley and I am loving it every bit as much as my other bikes. I had racing headers put on most of my sports bikes, so they were every bit as loud as my Harley is. My gear back than in summer was tennis shoes and T-shirts; at least I wear boots, gloves, and a leather vest now, so partially a step in the right direction I guess. Take care!
I owned 14 Harleys for over 25 years. I was in an MC. I bought a Kawasaki Concours 14. I ride all year long. I can no longer do the image, polishing chrome, or the old guy midlife crisis anymore. I wanted to enjoy riding something that didn’t cost as much as a car and has modern technology and just wanted to enjoy the ride, by myself.
I sold my HD, kept my 20 yr old metric cruiser, and snagged a Concours. Now I own my 2 favorite forever bikes, one is a rolling recliner, the other a rolling rocket.
Enjoying riding your motorcycle? No way, it's supposed to be about the image and being seen and being heard, and making others think about you what you want them to think about you.
As for me, I had a motorcycle when I was 16. My divorced dad took it from me because his live in nut bucket decided she liked it. So I abhor motorcycles, glazed donuts, Siamese cats, catholics, american pony cars, and liver. She had a vaginal yeast infection, and it got into his sinusses. They kept accusing each other of infidelity.
Hating HD riders? No way, not if they do their own maintenance.
Nearly the same deal here. Nothing against H-D, but I picked up a lightly used '16 Concours 14 two years ago and found out what a "real bike" actually consists of.
My bike has bed liner for paint. I slap a bag around the air intake, hose it off, and ride.
Here’s an idea. Ride your own bike and mind your own business.
Tell Harley riders that 😂😂
Exactly. I agree with you, Ride your own bike and don’t worry about anybody else is doing as far as Harley riders. That’s a bunch of bullshit doesn’t matter what kind of motorcycle you’re on as far as waving to people I’m tired of lifting my left hand up to wave all the damn time.
The next subject he talks about is revving your motor up. We all do it if you’re cool about riding your Harley you don’t need to rev your engine you get more respect from not being obnoxious and revving your engine and people just look at you as a punk ass, and no not everybody does it not everybody weaves in and out of traffic not everybody needs to show off it’s like why would you do a podcast with rifles and guns in your backdrop that’s just a sign of insecurity more so than popularity or trying to be a tough guyI said it bothers me these people get on here and they don’t know what the hell they’re talking about and on the first person to call somebody out I don’t have a problem with that
There this guy goes again?” but at the end of the day.” I mean how many times are you gonna say that in your podcast? Seriously🙄
Live your life the way you choose. Isn't this supposed to be America?
I've been riding for 55 years. I have always though the best bike was the one I was on.
must be riding a honda then
Agree. Four wheels are two too many!
The day my dad graduated from high school, he bought a brand new 1955 PanHead. When I finished US Navy boot camp, he gave me the bike. It was my only transportation for 15 years, until I left for University in Germany in August 1995. I never felt hated for riding a Harley-Davidson. Often, other riders on other bike brands, would comment on how much they wished they had a classic Harley-Davidson, and how lucky I was to have it.
I'm sure it's fun being broken down every 3000 miles or less
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr The bike broke down on me once, in Houston, TX. Dealer had me back on the road the same day.
Yeah, saying people hate Harley riders is a bit of an over statement.
@@clarson2916 People nowadays, specifically the younger generation, don't know what a normal human interaction is like. Every thing is binary and everything is so serious.
A very valid comment would be about motorcycle clubs who for the most part ride Harleys, trying to impose their roleplaying on other road users.
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr Typical douche canoe response from someone who never threw a leg over anything with two wheels.
Riding and motorcycles are things of the past for me and I miss both every day. Best wishes to everyone enjoying the two wheel experience. 👍🏻🤠🇺🇸
No matter what people will hate
Satan will always divide.
I ride Harley Davidson, many riders think they’re tough guys just because they can afford a HD. Bullsh1t SOA wanna be. It’s very annoying especially if you’re riding in a 1% club. Be who you are, enjoy the ride, owning a brand of bike doesn’t mean you can take a beating.
I ride a 2003 Honda VTX1800R. My Harley buddies are pretty cool, but I’ve seen some of these things. My favorite is my buddies jokingly call mine a "Hardly Davidson." I love it, told em to bring me a badge for my tank.
I call anything else a, HARDLY as well. That's funny
My VTX has been called a Honda Davidson before, thought it was hilarious
The Honda is a vastly superior motorcycle to a piece of shlt Tractor Davidson
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr i like both. One day I plan to own a shovelhead. I'll probably put a tiny shovel on it to go with the old joke, "why do they call it a shovelhead? Gotta stop every few miles and shovel up all the pieces that fell off." Both are cool to me, I just love my VTX cause its my 1st bike. Honda is cool. I plan to own a CT125 or the like as well. Cheers!
@@thumb-ugly7518 I hate Harley, and the posers who buy them
I have not felt any hate toward or from Harley riders. I ride a Honda and wave at everyone with the exception that I am engaged in a situation that needs full attention. I'd rather be rude than have a mishap. Safe riding to everyone. Thanks for a great video.
I have a couple of bikes Harley and kaw I wave like you unless safety is a concern rush hour traffic ect.
That's not rude we all know what's up
I grew up on sports bikes. I ride a Harley now, and I always wave at everyone when I see them and not working the clutch; heck, I even gave the two down wave to a young lady on a scooter the other day. I figured she is in the beginning stages of her motorized two wheel journey, and I wanted to encourage her.
I ride a Harley and have owned 4 other bikes from different manufacturers. All riders get the same feeling as me. I do not recommend to anyone, what bike to buy or ride. We all our grown and have our own preference.
I am a Harley rider and I’m proud of it but I don’t do the stupid things that most riders do and I respect all other motorcycle enthusiast as long as respect the roads, the people around us and the people that ride with us that’s the main thing and the ride
Ha, I’m a sport bike rider and I will say, you will NEVER catch my ass riding without full gear. Even if I’m just making a quick run to the store. I’ve seen WAYY too many accidents with people not wearing proper gear, and I am absolutely not taking that chance because it looks awful lol. As far as other people not wearing gear? Well, I judge, albeit silently. I’m not gonna tell others how to ride. Your bike, your body, your will.. but, that being said, I do think it’s a real bad idea to not wear the right gear.
I can agree with most of your points except, Noisy Davidsons or other piped Vtwins that are ridden to be obnoxious and actually hurt your ears as they blast through the neighborhood are not cool. Riders like this are crying out for attention and for people to look at them. They have no class.
South Park, did a episode on HD riders. It was perfect!
Right in the middle of this video I got an ad from Viking Bags showing a girl on a Harley wearing tights, a small tank top, and a half helmet to show off her caterpillar eye lashes.
I own a livewire one which was created by Harley Davidson, when i wave to the Harley guys they just blank stare me lol
I'm 76, closing in on 77 and just bought a HD, even tho I haven't ridden in a long time. I decided that I needed some adventure in my life hence the bike. I looked at Indians & Triumphs, but Harley is America's bike. I'm excitedly looking forward to riding season (May - September here in Michigan), just need to find someone to ride with (or not). Wish me luck, maybe I'll see you at Sturgis.
Always full face helmet. gloves with knuckles. And good boots. Wearing a jacket and chaps is a plus but obviously in the summertime we want to enjoy it but never without gloves or full face helmet. Save my life twice. Just bought another bike three weeks ago. After a year of recovery from a hit and run.
I've always worn a helmet for as long as I've been riding. I started out with a 3/4 helmet when I first started riding at about 7 years of age. At around 12, I got my first full-face helmet, and I've owned quite a few of them. At around 50, I got my first modular, and for me, that's the way to go.
While I don't always wear the proper gear, due to the excessive heat in southern Louisiana, leather boots, gloves, and a modular helmet are mandatory for me.
Waving is something I do, no matter what somebody is riding. While I've never had a sport bike (not my style), I've had mini-bikes, motocross bikes, and cruisers, and they were all Japanese. So, to me, "It's not what you ride it's that you ride."
It's really hard to believe how many sales people at a Harley dealership are Harley "snobs". I walked right out of a dealership after the salesman I was talking to started making stupid remarks about the Suzuki Volusia I was riding, and I was thinking about trading it in for a Road Glide. As it turned out, the Indian dealer didn't seem to have the same problem with my bike, and I bought a 2022 Pursuit Limited, and Indian gave me twice the trade-in price Harley was going to give me and threw in a driver backrest.
Riding brings me relaxation and peace of mind. Now that I've retired, it's even better because now there is no timeline to be back on a Monday morning.
Keep up the videos.
Thanks man
That's the Attitude 😎👍‼️
What Dennis said 100%.
One reason I now own TWO Indians. The Harley dealer in my own town went out of business. I’ve Road Harley’s my whole life and was thinking about getting another but I bought another Indian instead. Why? Because the idiot CEO of Harley announced to the world that they are converting their ENTIRE motorcycle fleet to Electric. They have also added Made in China bikes to their fleet. Harley is DEAD. Now I won’t even walk into a Harley dealership anymore. If they think I’m trading my Indian in for an electric one they have SHIT FOR BRAINS!!! Them COMMIE BASTARDS will have to SHOOT ME off of mine
My reasons are the way I have been treated by them, right from the start. I took the MSF class, after I bought a Honda Rebel 500 from a friend, never rode before. Class was at a Harley dealership, and from the moment I mentioned what bike I had when they asked if any of us already owned one, they treated me like crap. The class was done on Street 500s, understandable, but the whole time these guys just kept pushing how Harley was the only bike to get, mocking why anyone would get a non Harley, things like that. I did the class, did the final drill better than half the students, they still failed me. One dude even dumped the bike first try in the box, they let him go again. I got it first time through. When I asked what I did to fail they said you know why and walked away. Got into a class a few months later at a tech school, and I passed with flying colors.
Think about how hard it is for the new CEO who wants to diversify the brand to new riders and the hate they get when they want to change. The whole brand is broken.
So as a Harley rider and Honda and by the Grace of God 47 years in the saddle I'll tell you I'd personally have that Honda over any 500/750 Harley Street POS . Fact . They had them bikes as stated as learner school bikes to encourage the younger set to get into their bikes . But now they don't even sell them anymore, dropped from the lineup. My buddie had a 750 street , it could move out but butt ugly in my opinion and the rear cylinder base was always puking antifreeze ( water cooled) . So stick with the Honda man . If anyone is a wannabe it's those street riders.🤔😁😎
Sounds like your Harley instructors were a bunch of jerks. Did they think their attitudes would somehow endear you to the Harley brand? I love my Harley in spite of what anyone else thinks. Have owned 4 Harleys. Liked one, hated one and loved two. Most Harley riders are decent people but when I tell them that I prefer my victory for cross country trips,13 states this year, I do get strange reactions from some 😊.
Time to name and shame the class at the Hartley dealer. Here in the UK, they're known as "Hardly Ables" cos they're hardly able to go 12:33 round corners. Even my old GS750 handled way better than a Hartley.
I think HD owners know they’ve made a huge mistake and try to justify it by belittling others.
I don’t fit into most of these categories either. I don’t really wash my bikes, but I do wipe them down and mainly clean off the dead bugs. I also always wave if I can. If I don’t, it’s because I just didn’t see them until it was too late. I’m focusing more on traffic ahead of me and I sometimes won’t see another rider until they are already passing.
In my opinion it's all about respect for other riders, don't act like a fool and you won't be treated like one God Bless us all
Great video! I think that you nailed it. I'm a Harley rider and for the most part couldn't care less what you ride. The exceptions are: if you ride a Harley, we probably have more to talk about; if you ride a Softail (which I ride), we have have a little more to talk about; if you ride a Sport Glide (my bike), we have a lot more to talk about. On the other hand, if you don't ride a Harley, I may lean something from you. I suppose that's true about pretty much anything though. Keep up the great work!
I had a few Harley riders hated on me already. One saying, nice scooter to me like his bike is better than mine, another look at me making fun of my sportbike by acting like he was on a sportbike looking at me. Since then I stopped acknowledging people. We are all motorcycle riders we should respect each other.
when my girlfriend was learning to ride, she finally bought a little ninja 300, and I got her to go out on the roads, the first person to give her the biker wave was an old grizzled up harley guy, on a big bagger, she was so excited lol, yeah they don’t always wave , it neither do guys on sport bikes. ride your ride, ride YOUR bike. who cares at the end of the day we’re all on two wheels. I even wave to mopeds idgaf they are on surface streets on two wheels.👍🏻👍🏻
I agree with you. I currently am riding a Triumph. I wave at all riders if I can free my left hand. I've had a few Harley riders not wave back at me, I don't take it personal. The guys most likely NOT to wave back are the sport bike guys in my experiance. Guess they are afraid to take their hand of the bars at 150mph. They might be right, I'll never know. Don't want to.
A friend of mine who rides a old school Harley bagger with chrome everything but tires told me this; "as long as "their knees are in the breeze", they are bikers. Wave to them, stop and help them if they need it, just like you'd want them to do for you. It's a 2 wheel club, not a name brand or v-twin, or inline deuce club. 2 wheels, gas engine= Biker. I rarely ever see a Moped, but I'd probably just wave at them too.
You also have to figure sometimes the person didn't see you or are "in the zone" which is kind of dangerous as they probably aren't paying full attention.
I wave at bicyclists; they're working harder than I am on the road and have less ability to get out of someone's way if things go bad. Plus I commuted on a bicycle for many years before I could afford a motorcycle, so they have my respect.
@@kman-mi7su Happens
Triumph has a cool line of bikes, something for everybody. I had an old Tiger back in the day
@@davebrunson125 It's not perfect, and not particularly fast by my context but very fun and reliable so far. Fast enough for me now. Still gives the rush.
Sometimes, people just miss the wave entirely or they are not comfortable yet removing a hand off their handlebars (me for most of this year). As you do not know the experience of the oncoming rider. With me being a new rider and just about to finish up my first season of riding. I know I have missed the waves entirely by concentrating on the vehicles around me or the other reasons you mentioned. I feel bad for missing the waves every time, and I have shrugged off the times I didn't receive 1 back. Awesome content.
True... sometimes I'm just focused on the road, if I missed returning the salutation it's never intentional. But most times I always try and return it. 👍🏻
I wave usually. I don't care what you're on. I even wave to mopeds. If I don't then I was zoned out, in traffic and concentrating on the car in front of me or just saw you too late. I ride a Harley Fat Boy and often don't get waves from other Harley riders either so. I dunno.
My shirt 👕 says " YOU CHOOSE NO HELMET I CHOOSE NO WAVE !!!!😂😂😂😂
I ride a 2022 g310gs. I am a new rider with just over 1500 miles and I always feel guilty when I don't wave but every wave or head nod has been reciprocated. I love this community
I always wave to other riders . Always have. But riding with my wife I noticed she never waves to anyone. When I asked her about it she said she's just focused on the road and doesn't even notice other riders. I'm not sure how that works but ok. I'm from NC and to be honest I had never seen other riders who didn't wave until I spent a couple of years in Florida.
I ride with my wife also she always says she doesn't get waved back to and I always get a return wave she cant get no respect it accually pisses her off I just laugh
Died enjoying the fuck out of my freedom on the best goddamn motorcycle man ever built
I washed my bike in May, so I'm glad you brought this up. I need to think about giving it another go over.
The not waving thing is almost exclusively HD riders. That’s the biggest issue I have. Love the bikes, hate the attitude.
I have a Harley Street Bob and a Kawasaki Vulcan S. I wave at everyone when I can. Sometimes I just can't, like you said there are a lot of things that can keep you from waving. I ride to work at 5 am and the sprinklers in the esplanade's are on at that time so polishing every day is not happening. I wear full gear and full face helmet. Because that's my choice just as its other peoples choice not to. Here in Houston Texas it's hot and I see a lot of ridders on all sorts of bikes lacking gear due to the heat. I won't wear my jacket some rides if I'm not getting on the highway. I have met Harley snobs and street bike snobs. Most ridders I meet are chill and just see it as being on two wheels is all that matters.
Don't be hating on mopeds Hegshot! I have two Harleys, but when my wife wants to ride her moped, I hop on mine and ride mine too! And I have to say, they're a lot of fun!
New Rider here, and I'm trying to learn as much as possible to be safe and responsible. Thanks for your helpful videos. God bless and Happy trails
Thanks man
You left out the.........only reason you don't ride a Harley is because you can't afford one.
@danielwalker3538
Sorry I didn't say anything. I ride an 2015 hd dyna lowrider.
That would be a lot of people, including myself.
Helmets are designed to protect your brain! Therefore, it would be stupid to use something to protect something you don't have.
I've been riding for 30 years and I've been on Harleys for the last 20. I find I prefer to ride alone because riders in groups tend to do dumb things or turn everything into a competition. Then you get the douchebags that think the price of their bike establishes some kind of pecking order. I don't mind riding alongside a good friend once in awhile but groups of Harley riders often annoy me despite being on a Harley myself.
I'll stop and help a broke down bike and I wish my fellow riders the best but I've discovered I prefer using my riding time to get away from other people, not be with them.
Yep.. everything you said, truth 👍🏻👍🏻
Years ago I used to be a heavy drinker. Fortunately I quick drinking alcohol before I started riding motorcycles. When I'm out riding I'm in high alert at all times. You see all kinds of things going on that could potentially kill you that you don't see or think about when driving a vehicle. So you owe it to yourself to be your best when riding a motorcycle.
I passed a group of about 30 Harley riders going 15 km's an hour under speed limit, and they were not happy. My brother rides a Harley and when I ride with him he goes so slow. Is this normal for Harley riders?
Those pile of shit Hardley Makeitson's won't move any faster. That's why they always have that pissed off look on their face. Think about it. You would be mad too if you had to ride one of those pile's of shit.. A bike that could have been built in the 1920's and they pay today's price for it.
I used to not give a shit what other riders wore safety wise until I had a chat with a considered rider at a MC Rally a while back. He pointed out that if some idiot crashes on the boulevard, wearing his tshirt, flipflops and shorts, thats now one less emergency room bed. Then there's the staff, specialists etc when he may have limped away. Now some other human who wasn't being reckless and needs emergency services are being shunted in an ambulance. When I think of freedom, I think about civic duty as well. The only reason we are Free is because of consideration of our selves and our impact on others around us.
Years ago when I first started riding, if someone didn’t wave back I thought what the heck man. But I don’t think twice about it anymore. Probably only the newer riders are bothered by it.
My only peeve about the HD rider are the ones who practically don’t have a muffler. The ones where the DBs are off the charts and assault your hearing from miles away. I understand trying to be heard for safety, but It’s the “look at me, I’m cool” factor that exudes extreme selfishness.
Loud pipes save lives!
You simply have NO comprehension of as to why some pipes are loud. Yes, one can put louder pipes on a bike, but when one has a BIG displacement engine, one ends up have to make their OWN stepped headers to get the engine breathing right. So blame YOUR E.P.A. for the headaches you seem to suffer from.
@@kevinoconnor2921 nonsense. Some of them are louder than a Hemi without a muffler.
Watch the South Park episode called The F Word and you'll understand why people hate Harley riders
I ride a Harley, but have not been riding very long (two years). Our group consists of Harley and non-Harley alike, and I've seen none of this. Sounds like I have a lot to look forward to. Ha! Always enjoy the content, sir!
You haven’t encountered this behavior because only a small minority of Harley riders ruin the reputation for the rest of us. I own both Harleys and non-Harleys and ride them all. I rarely encounter motorcycle riders who aren’t cool, love the hobby, and appreciate all motorcycles. Doesn’t matter the ride, there will always be dipshits.
Thanks brother
Been riding since 1974 . As a Harley rider i really don't care what people think. And yes i wave at all bikers.
I ride a Ducati on race tracks and, for the first time ever, I bought myself a Street Glide Special for the road last year. I absolutely love it as I do my Ducati on the track - different tools for different jobs. Riding through the whole of Europe, I was filtering on the autobahn in a traffic jam and I had two GS1250 riders deliberately block me from filtering - no reason - just ignorant Harley hating Germans. Really surprised me. But it was the only incident on the whole 2000 mile trip.
Probably they blocked you because filtering is not allowed on the german highways.
@@64Goef Nope. It’s totally legal in German autobahns, UK and in the rest of Europe. The only place where I’ve heard it being illegal is in some States and Canada.
@@JR-gc5ef In Germany and France its still not legal as per 2023. Not saying that its not happening but if the police stops you its defenitly costing you money.
Loud pipes! They are a nuisance to other people and no good for the general image of motorcycling, and it seems to me that a disproportionate number of Harley owners fit them on their bikes, compared to owners of other brands. If they would stop doing that, my guess is that most people would just ignore them rather than hate them. The question is, would they prefer being ignored?
I never wave when riding my Harley. I always feel bad but I only have one arm and It’s being used to hold the handlebars.
Well aren't you the selfish one.
You could at least stick out your tongue.
Lol
Ride Safe!
Poor excuse
Gotta hand it to yah.
You're right, other riders do some of the negative things you mentioned but it's mostly HD riders that do it. That's why they have that reputation 😂
In over 45 years of riding it's a little hard not to notice that some , no all but some newer riders have a real bad case of I am better than you. I will tell you this I have been on almost every kind of motorcycle , big , small, Harley chopper , bobber you name it and I am not a prick about it. I worked at a Harley Parts Warehouse in California. Newer Harley's do nothing for me at all but I love 1970's Shovelheads and own two. I have way more respect for older riders and older H-D's. Show some respect for old school riders.
I agree 100%. I've been riding for about the same amount of time and have the same experience. I've been riding my 52 year old chopper for 38 years.
A couple comments: 1) The wave - I wave at other riders as a prayer that each of us has a safe ride. I don’t take it personally when someone doesn’t return it. 2) Cleaning - I’m a serial bug killer. I kill bugs, clean them off and then kill more. I do a cursory wipe down if there’s any dust or the previous ride had rain. Keep up the good work, Howard!!
Thanks brother
I think of riders not wearing a helmet similarly to how I view open-carry among the public. In both situations, it’s more comfortable and can be “freer” and I support a person’s ability to do either. But those are not the choices I make for various reasons. Everyone has to live (or die) with the consequences of the choices they make. I choose to wear a good helmet and carry concealed. For everyone else, you do you.
I ride a Harley. As for waving to others, I wave to anyone riding… even scooters. Most of the time, they’ll wave back, but occasionally they won’t. I usually chalk it up to them being otherwise occupied because sometimes that same thing sometimes happens to me in reverse. Hell, yesterday I waved to a dude on what looked like an e-bicycle. He had a confused look on his face. 😂
That Americans are riding around carrying guns is beyond crazy to the rest of the world. That’s its most likely Harley riders is no surprise … 🤡😵💀
Last time i road my bike it took both hands and both feet to operate, i can drive a car with one hand and one foot which do you think requires more focus and concentration
Well I am old. I don’t wear gear but since my wife decided full gear is cumbersome, I removed the passenger pegs and pillion. Back when the road was less crowded and the speed was 55mph we had the time of our lives squiding around in sub-one hundred horsepower motorcycles, of which non-Harleys felt like recycled aluminum and sounded like lawnmowers. Sad to see it go. Sad to see all the results of decades of governmental grift also. 😥
I agree, I still ride a 52 year old Shovelhead chopper.
Man oh man you are so right about the Govt Grift. So irritating to see elected bureaucrats take freedoms away from “We The People”. Forcing us to all go electric when they pollute the environment more and rely on slave labor in places like the Congo to make those batteries. Real freedom is the freedom to choose and not being penalized for not jumping on the environmental communist movement. Capitalism is about letting the consumer decide and lies and coercion.
Love your comments, spot on! I started riding a Honda 90 in 1969 as a teenager, then to a Honda 350 twin, 500 four and to a '93 Harley that a rode for 25 years and sold to a police officer (he got a great deal) but now ride a Suzuki and KTM as I live in Southern California and am addicted to Baja and desert riding and occasionally on my BMW R 1200RT for street riding. Most (95% at least) Harley riders wave at me and I've been to many biker bars in SoCal and everyone gets along very well and helps each other out.
It's political. Harley riders tend to be more conservative, metric riders lean more liberal. In these times, that's all that's required for people to hate each other.
That's bullshit I ride Harley and Kawasaki an so do a lot of people I know it isn't political
It’s sad. I wish people could just get along. It’s exhausting to be honest
and Euros are facists ? what study was that?
LOL dumbest thing I have heard in a while.
Wait what?
I'm with you, Brother! I bought my Harley to ride, not to look at. Never drink alcohol while I'm riding, and I wear protective gear for every ride.
Thing is about your 1st segment. To us Harley riders, we don't care what you wear or don't wear.
Triumph rider. I do not mind the loud v-twin noise. What I get annoyed by (and it’s big cruisers not necessarily Harleys) is the blaring music from some of the bigger bike speakers. I find it both obnoxious and distracting. You get better sound (and are safer) if you wear a helmet with speakers inside.
ya but then they wont get the attention Hd riders crave.
Anyone listening to music in their helmet is a fool and a risk to themselves and other road users … 🤡😵💀
#1 issue why folks get aggravated with HD riders is EXCESSIVE LOUD PIPES.. not all but far to many think everyone loves the sound...NOT
I always tell new riders “If riding isn’t fun enough without drinking then riding isn’t for you “
I ride BMW, Yamaha, Kawasaki. Not a fan of Harley or Harley riders. Yes, making a broad generalization here, but overall, I dislike the Harley culture. It’s a a clique . It’s like back in high school again or maybe college frat. You’re one of us, or you’re not. Harley logo on everything, clothes, back of truck, etc. The whole image that Harley riders keep pushing. And yes, I also wait before I throw down the wave when I see Harleys coming because I know when another rider passes by me and doesn’t return the wave, it’s always a guy on a Harley cruiser. Sport bike riders, ADV riders, classic motorcycles…always wave back. And don’t get me started on “Loud pipes save lives” and shit like that. How hateful is everyone in town when they’re enjoying a Sunday with their families, walking around, sitting an an outdoor cafe/restaurant enjoying food and conversation, when some guys on Harleys roll through with old pipes and raving the engines. I could go and on.
I have never owned one but I like HD riders and bikes. The machines usually need some maintenance and owners always like to change things up a bit when nothing else is needed. I wave at all of them when I am on my sportbike, enduros, or even my moped. They may be my next customer! I don't care what you ride, just love to see others riding.
Kris Kristofferson did a song with the line in it, “Everybody needs somebody to look down on; help yourself to me”. That pretty much sums it up for me. I don’t give a damm what anybody thinks. I ride Harleys and it’s because I like them. As for “the wave”, Harley bikers invented that act of respect. I always do it and I do it to every rider I see.
If I notice them in time I try to wave to all bikers on all types of bikes cool bikes, performance bikes, muscle cruisers, and even to Harley's.😂😂😂 Hey I figured to each his own and whatever it is that the hardly owners get out of preparing their bikes all the time I guess it's similar to what I get out of writing mine. But I don't enjoy the hardly owners to come through my neighborhood late at night revving the bikes it just seems overly rude for no purpose. I mean if you enjoy the sound of an engine tearing itself apart that's fine and all but do you have to intentionally make that as loud as possible and then blare your radio as loud as possible? some people haven't retired yet and have to get up for work. Oh well first world problems I guess. It's fun to stereotype but stereotyping aside I've met plenty of Harley riders who were actually cool people. LOL
I have been riding for about 40 years my current ride is a 1948 FL II don't give a tinkers damn what or how you ride as long as you don't endanger myself or my friends. The last thing the motorcycle world needs is a devisive video like this. If you give respect you will be treated with respect I am not a cop, I am not hear to tell anyone what to do or how to do it. If you see someone riding without a helmet, mind your business, they could be returning from a funeral run or they may be overheated from wearing that lid. If you go around calling people names for choosing to excersise their freedoms you are cruising for a bruising.
Calling people names is one of the freedoms you claim to support.
UL rider here, I choose to ride a Harley by virtue of the fact that it’s the best fit for me. The ultra limited is a very expensive bike and is the flagship of the Harley line so I’m proud of ownership. I keep my bike clean and polished for that very reason. How many of us have seen people on sport bikes who are virtually naked wearing beachsandals and shorts.
Sometimes I wear a helmet, sometimes I don't, but I think it's silly for ppl to get upset about what other people wear. People who wear full track gear to go down to the strip mall to sip coffee for instance...lmfao. I like clean bikes, but I don't like doing the cleaning..:/ If I go to the garage to see my bike, it's usually to ride. I also have a really long dirt driveway too, so, as soon as I leave, it's already dirty right off the bat anyway :/ :/ and yes, everyone revs their engines...admittedly, sometimes it's just to make sure the bike stays running haha.
People who don't wear helmets and protective gear has more likely to be seriously injured or even die, that's give the reson to Insurance companies race insurance premiums for everyone so think about that too!
I don’t take a wave or no wave personally. The only group that consistently doesn’t wave are the fully geared up adventure bike riders.
What stuns me is the price you'd pay for a Harley and what you actually get for your money. Way overpriced, marginal performance, dependability issues, etc.
Harley riders feel the freedom of the ride! Do we always wave at oncoming bikers? Not always, but there's a reason why. Most of it is traffic, or what's going on up ahead. It doesn't mean we are stuck up, no that's not it. You're riding on a 1000 pound bike and sometimes even a wave can put you in dire straights! I've seen too many accidents because someone isn't paying attention. Most everyone waves when it's safe to do so, nobody wants to wreck their scooter and end up in the Horsepistol!? Lol! It reminds me of when I drove Semi Truck and Trailer! All Semi Drivers wave to other Semi Drivers, and 10 wheeler drivers wave to other 10 wheeler drivers, and nobody waves to bobtail drivers!! Lmfao!!!!! Drive Safe Everyone, and Stop Texting!!
South Park nailed the " harley fa..
Harley is the " bud light " of bikes
that episode was hilarious !
I ride a Harley Davidson, for 40 years, now. I used to ride a Honda. Both are fine bikes. I don’t drink. I have ridden to rallies, years ago. I ride alone and don’t ride to rallies anymore. I enjoy the ride. Sometimes I wave. Sometimes my hands are occupied. NOBODY gives a s#;t, NOBODY. I ride when it suits me, where it suits me. I still enjoy eating at mom and pop restaurants, rather than franchise fast food places. Thanks, from…east Tennessee.
Hate seeing riders not wearing helmets. I always wear a helmet especially since my daughter came into this world. doesn't matter how good of rider you are you can't control the person in the car next to you. I do see a lot of riders not wearing helmets probably 90% of those being Harleys. In my opinion, especially if you have a family, not wearing a helmet is one of the most selfish things you can do. Riding is a dangerous hobby, and I love riding as it helps me clear my head, but I'm also going to make sure I take the precautions to make it back to my family in one piece or at least alive in the worst scenario of a crash.
Harley riders in Australia mainly only wear useless brain bucket helmets, because helmets are required by law. Crazy how helmets aren’t mandatory in the USA. It’s also crazy to not wear a full faced helmet. I have a friend who rides a Harley and has suffered for years wearing a brain bucket helmet just because of the image. I just tease him about it now … 😂
IMO, the Harley gang mentality is the biggest problem, with the threat of violence, intimidation. I rode in California for many years on various Japanese bikes, and the HD gangs were the worst. I knew a few individual solo Harley riders and they were good, nice people. So as part of a gang you give up your individual right/wrong decision making, and become part of group think. All gangs lead to problems, whether Harley, microscooters, gang-bangers, etc.
Group think IS the problem, from both sides. I wave at most vehicles, just a friendly rider.
I hate seeing bikes with strange shaped handlebars, simply because I've been down quite a few times, and know how bad the bike or car/vehicle can wound a person, I've had my hand impaled by a brake lever when I was run off the road into the grass. I've got three Harleys, a triumph, and I enjoy riding, regardless of the brand. I've always given the wave, and I've long given the wave to anyone on two wheels. "Keep riding and enjoy the day" is definitely the way to enjoy life. My daughter leans hard on me to quit riding because she's afraid I'll get hit and hurt. You either enjoy the ride, or just the pose, in my not very humble opinion. I built my last "chop" in 96, had a fine paint job for the first couple years, but it doesn't look anything like it did in this day and age. I started riding back in the sixties, riding just isn't the same in this day and age.
Harley rider here - I I give exactly zero craps what anyone thinks of me. Let them go to their safe space and cry it out.
Right on, brother
Nothing says individual like dressing the same as everyone else
Great video and very good comments regarding HD riders. Like you I fit some of them but not all, I wear a full face helmet, gloves and a protective jacket when riding my Street Glide, if it's just around town I may just wear my leather vest but always full-face helmet and gloves. I don't do the biker bar scene, I will not drink and drive, but that's just me. I work in healthcare and have seen firsthand the trauma from motorcycle accidents.
I've never heard one harley guy saying anything bad about any bike or any gear . On the other hand i had heard sport bike riders do it .
I agree with your last part of the video 100% I do drink but won’t drink why I’m riding I think knowing your surroundings and Senses when riding is more important enjoyed the whole video as well
Very little waving in Australia. Mostly because on the other side of the road. Brake hand is on the lever and no fingers available. Not that common here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ride in NZ on LHS, most people wave with left hand
Plenty of us nod our heads, but rarely do old guys on Harleys or Adventure bikes. I find them comical … 😂 p.s. The right hand is on the throttle, so obviously can’t let go to wave. The brake lever has nothing to do with it unless you’re riding hard through the twisties …
First off, who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks. It's no one's business what another rider does. Wear what you want to wear. Mind your own business! We ALL know the risk.
The fact that you can take a look at a motorcycle brand and with almost 100% accuracy tell the level of safty gear, says all that needs to be said about the community pressure to fall in line
It's simple Harley Davidson riders get all the puntang! The other guys get well other guys 🤣
Never seen an attractive woemyn on the back of a Harley … 😂
Yeah, because hot girls love unkempt beards and swamp ass in leather.
The hags in clubs don't count dude. Those girls are gross.
Right. Youre gonna regret not wearing a helmet when an accident happens. Ouch
when a Harley rider doesn’t wave it makes them look like a douche and perpetuates their douchey image. It’s like seeing your neighbor outside, them waving hello and you just blatantly ignoring them. I’ve never had any other bike besides a Harley not wave or at least give the nod when they’re shifting or something and can’t wave.
I've been in the biker MC/ Harley- community for well enough 30 years now and to be frank, during all these years if there would have been any troubles like fights and such my experience is that it had always included at least one Harley-rider. Especially this later years when i've witness so many "dudelidudes" who bought the full monty of becoming a gang-member/brother. Bike, clothes, tats, made up life story, and most of all, -attitude. Dedicated fools with low self esteem. These guys often don't hang around for long. Either loudmouths who manage to erase themselfes or they put themselfes in situations where they upset someone else enough to shut them down. But what i've summoned up during these years is that they seldom show up on a Suzuki.
I respect and wave to anyone on two wheels even scooters but that’s a different wave. 20yr Harley rider love the culture and sounds of Harley Davidson respect others and yourself don’t drink and ride. Be safe and enjoy the wind.
I had a harley rider visibly whip his head away so he could pretend like he didn't see me wave the other day