@@neulvnlctu If it was called Intros to be ghosted by a store of pimped butterflies turning a wheel to make a discovery of a madvillan he would've given it a 10 honestly, nevermind its not even good.
Bro he doesn’t have the hairline and lowkey never did. You can look at videos of his from 2011 when he tried rocking hair and that shit was hanging on for dear life even then 😂
I liked out of pricnciple bc I do in principle support the bass intros very much. But I gotta say, this was the most entertaining episode in a long time for me. All the singing XD
@@lebumjames1373 Carti stans showing their enthusiastic support for beating women and domestic violence in general. I wish I could say I was surprised. Dude is a piece of shit and his music is mid get over it.
Sicko Mode may have influenced the current trend of mid-song beat switches, but I feel like Sicko was influenced by Kendrick's DNA. That beat switch was so damn good
Really the only beat switchup in Sickomode that think was dumb was the first one. Like it’s such an iconic introduction, but it’s kinda wasted by being a glorified introduction for the track.
i feel like the separation between the two different beats there isn't nearly as stark as it is on sicko mode, or even on something like nights by frank which may have also influenced the trend
I know it's hard for Melon fans but please hop off Kendrick's meat lmfaooo. Travis has been doing beat switches way before DNA came out and beat switches have existed in hip hop since forever.
I 100% believe the revisionist takes on Imagine Dragons old work are a continuation of the sudden reversal on the hate for Nickelback. I don’t mind either of these bands but in these past couple years, it seems lots of people who just a couple years ago would have dumped on Nickelback suddenly went to defending them. And since Imagine Dragons were called the 2010s Nickelback for a long time, people are just doing the same revisionist defense to that same concept of sterile every-man rock. It’s possible for these bands to have separate qualities and to be rated differently despite filling a very similar niche.
Nickelback is basically the definition of post grunge with a touch of alternative metal, not to mention tight as hell and absolutely killer live. Imagine Dragons are just pop imo.
7:13 What Fantano describes here is actually the exact reason I got into Radiohead, For a good while I was just kind eh on them, They're alright but there's far better stuff out there, But then one time I tried singing "Karma Police" and I was just like "Goddang that's actually pretty good.", And now I like Radiohead.
I’ve tried numerous times to listen to their albums & tbh it’s just so bland and boring. It reminds me of the times when people would pull out a guitar and force you to listen to them play
@@datboib3432 Honestly I haven't actually listened to any of their albums in full, but they have a few songs I like. I feel their music is much better if you try to focus on the instrumentation rather than the vocals, because being honest Thom Yorke's vocals are just not that exciting.
@@MrLurchMedia yeah, I tried listening to kid a twice in full - once in high school, once a few years ago (though admittedly, I was skipping through most of the tracks after ~a minute) They got some good songs but imo only like 4 or 5 over most of their early albums. They dont have an album that I can listen to all the way through, its boring & there’s no great return for sitting through it all imo
Carti music sounds like it's made by someone who hates modern rap. Like, if I wanted to make fun of modern rap and made a joke song to show how stupid it sounds to me, it'd probably sound exactly like a Carti song
Yeah, and even if you want to extend that argument into "well Rodeo was 10+ years ago", JID had a beat switch track (NEVER) in 2017, a year before Astroworld/Sicko Mode.
Yeah and he did it way better on 90210. Also beat switches have been a thing for decades I guess people just aren’t aware that music before 2018 exists
Blonde was an album I didn’t get into till like 2 years ago.. I know some of songs are heartbreakingly tragic but it fills me with a sense of calm I can’t explain - album makes me feel like i’m in a garden wearing oversized clothes and chasing butterflies 🦋
Trueeee, heathen and the next day show his solid foundations of songwriting and performance were still incredible at that point and Buddha of suburbia and earthling both show how he was still that deep into his career and pushing experimental sounds and never resting on his laurels. Love all four of those projects and while comparing any album to the Berlin trilogy is a tough ask, that era still stands up better than albums earlier in his career (never let me down) and certainly shows how he was head and shoulders above other mega stars when it comes to always trying to make new and exciting music and take actual risks
Also, one could argue blackstar the track was one point of foreshadowing for the current trend of beat switching (although I doubt there is a ton of direct inspiration there)
I will say that Let's Dance and Scary Monsters aren't enough to beat what he dropped in the 90s and onwards (even though I love Scary Monsters). That said, his 70s stuff is top tier
Never understood what the appeal of Carti is. Especially now that the generic trap sound that permeates all his music post 2020 is getting really played out. It's insulting at this point to call his brand of hip hop experimental, because it's probably the least experimental sound currently circulating in mainstream rap.
Basically all of his singles for this new album sound really bland. Like, he just sounds bored on all of them and can't deliver with that same raw energy he had on WLR
Look man, call me an old head or whatever but I cannot stand the way he sounds, bro that is so whiny and like his voice is like so unappealing to listen to
This Let's Argue was in fact a Let's Croon, and I'm absolutely positively here for it. Keep channeling that Scotty, my man! Also, Ryan, good work with finding instrumentals that are actually somewhat in key with Anthony's surf-singing, I applaud the attention to detail 🤣
Bowie from 1993-2003 is underrated and better than his 1980-1990 output. 1. Outside... is a legit masterpiece that belongs with his best work (the closest thing to Blackstar he did previously) Heathen is great and Earthling, Hours... and Buddha of Suburbia are solid. But yeah, hard to find a decade of music by any artist that is better than Bowie in the 70s, that part of the take is ridiculous.
Not Imagine Dragons but I feel that sentiment is true for Maroon 5. I remember really liking their early stuff at one point in time but I can't find what I used to like about them in their newer stuff.
WLR is by far an album I just think not many can wrap their mind around. I had to force that shit down my throat at first, and now, I think it's a masterpiece of Carti's. You realize how much you remember about each song after how ever many listens. I can tell you have not listened to WLR more than one time with that attitude lol and it was probably in 2020 on the day of.
Playboi carti definitely “missed” when he strangled his pregnant girlfriend, or neglected his child (who will probably struggle with problems derived from that for a significant portion of their life). Also his music isn’t all that, I’ve never felt compelled to listen, but when a track of his came on on the algorithm the other day I skipped and thought it was LQ trash.
What’s interesting about the beat switch take is for griselda I genuinely hope at least one song on an album has a switch and usually they don’t or it’s very rare (double hockey sticks, reversible, rip Bobby, etc but their production is good enough for me to wanna hear 2 beats. Trav is very good at it too
I like some songs on Night Visions like Selene, Tiptoe, and Nothing Left to Say that's as far as my imagine dragons appreciation goes but i do really like those songs
Imagine thinking New England is special for fall colors when that happens in California too. He doesn’t know how trees work and we care about his opinion?
There’s no way he’s still defending the sexxy redd take homie it’s A TERRIBLE TAKE just accept that literally no one else agrees with you and move on just own it
I feel the same way about Tyler's music being better before [in terms of the david bowie part] i understand that he's happier making the music he makes now though so as much as I love the older music it's not worth having the guy be depressed again just to make the music I like
Tbh if you're working exclusively in a Daw with VSTs and samples rather than love musicians, it takes *more* producing to make something sound messy and raw than it does to make it sound clean and snapped to the grid
I'm not so sure about samples, especially old samples (that tend to already have swing). But it does take more effort not snapping things to the grid with VSTs and even live instruments in very electronic music (i.e. trap, DnB, Dubstep, etc.) because of producer's tendency to quantize things...
The best melon intro of all time. And for that reason i’m feeling a light to decent 6 on this one
if it was called To Pimp An Intro, you would've given it a 10
@@neulvnlctu If it was called Intros to be ghosted by a store of pimped butterflies turning a wheel to make a discovery of a madvillan he would've given it a 10 honestly, nevermind its not even good.
Tran--
@@ty_teynium sition
hey at least it's as good as my beautiful dark twisted fantasy
Imagine if Melon got a low-taper fade
one can only imagine.
imagine if melon got a low taper faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade
He should hit that reverse fade with the bald on top
Bro he doesn’t have the hairline and lowkey never did. You can look at videos of his from 2011 when he tried rocking hair and that shit was hanging on for dear life even then 😂
Crying laughing thinking about this man you fucking killing me
bro has GIVEN UP on the bass
Someone needs to call Davie 504 to sort this blasphemer out
Could Anthony redeem himself by playing Given up by Linkin Park on the bass the next time?
@@muenchhausenmusicperchance
@@MKCasu-dm5gv 🌽
this video will be on the front page of r/playboicarti for a while
Just posted it lmao
12 year olds will go insane
A bit they “hiss” at the mere sight of Melon
Buncha dorks lol
A bunch of "bro really thinks" type comments 😂
Here's a hot take: the Let's Argue videos suck unless Anthony opens them with a sick impromptu bass riff.
I disagree
Ngl I skip the guitar openings too
why the fuck would somebody skip the bass? impatient much? not music loving much? disgusting
And so on and so fourth…
I liked out of pricnciple bc I do in principle support the bass intros very much. But I gotta say, this was the most entertaining episode in a long time for me. All the singing XD
Can't have misses if you never drop
He sure didn't miss his girlfriend's neck when he was strangling her
he's just like me 😂 @@Billiamwoods
@@Billiamwoodswomp womp
@@lebumjames1373 Carti stans showing their enthusiastic support for beating women and domestic violence in general. I wish I could say I was surprised. Dude is a piece of shit and his music is mid get over it.
@@lebumjames1373yt
i love it when i find an anthony fantano video after just maniacally ranting about the same thing to my gf
@@MilesMcCoyYTyou need to quit making music forever you have zero talent
@@MilesMcCoyYT you not yuno miles bro
Carti has five good songs total
this is not quirky
Same
I don’t listen to sexxy red but I adore the way Anthony defends his position on her music.
Same
Wavves fans will watch the beginning of this video and think “hell yeah”
Anthony's Scott Stapp impression is just his Eddie Vedder impression. Although I guess that's also true for the real Scott Stapp....
Pink Floyd album tier list when?
We were promised it...
He’s already done something similar
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@@Jraw239he mentioned he was working on it in his wrapped video
The intro to this video is crazy man LOL
These intros have been getting better and better
It’s getting cornier bro😂😂
"I don't even know if there is such a thing as a 10/10 post-grunge album..."
The Color and the Shape.
Let's argue: apocolypse moose has no bad takes
8/10 at best
Absolutely not a 10. Good album though
Are Foo Fighters post-grunge? If they are then they're probably the only good post-grunge band (other than Alter Bridge)
thank you, Gary Ridgeway as depicted in landmark power electronics album "GR" by Deathpile!
Sicko Mode may have influenced the current trend of mid-song beat switches, but I feel like Sicko was influenced by Kendrick's DNA. That beat switch was so damn good
Really the only beat switchup in Sickomode that think was dumb was the first one. Like it’s such an iconic introduction, but it’s kinda wasted by being a glorified introduction for the track.
i feel like the separation between the two different beats there isn't nearly as stark as it is on sicko mode, or even on something like nights by frank which may have also influenced the trend
Travis was doing the beat switches years before DNA (Oh My Dis Side, 90210). The thing with Sicko Mode was that he did it not one but switches.
I know it's hard for Melon fans but please hop off Kendrick's meat lmfaooo. Travis has been doing beat switches way before DNA came out and beat switches have existed in hip hop since forever.
People like you have never heard music before if u think Sicko Mode from fucking 2018 started the beat switch trend
Let’s argue: melon should bring back the bass intros in the beginning of let’s argue videos
I 100% believe the revisionist takes on Imagine Dragons old work are a continuation of the sudden reversal on the hate for Nickelback. I don’t mind either of these bands but in these past couple years, it seems lots of people who just a couple years ago would have dumped on Nickelback suddenly went to defending them. And since Imagine Dragons were called the 2010s Nickelback for a long time, people are just doing the same revisionist defense to that same concept of sterile every-man rock. It’s possible for these bands to have separate qualities and to be rated differently despite filling a very similar niche.
Poptimism has to die
Nickelback is basically the definition of post grunge with a touch of alternative metal, not to mention tight as hell and absolutely killer live. Imagine Dragons are just pop imo.
I've been calling it for a while now.
@@grogu1986imagine dragons is indeed pop, at least soundwise
1:00 i think we all appreciate you talking about music rather than making it. Thank you for doing you.
Yesterday at the bar this frat guy put Higher- Creed on the internet jukebox and was raising his hands in benediction. I could not stop laughing
Carti fanboys are honestly intolerable people. Literally doing tricks on it for some of the most mid music ever created.
people who hate others on the internet for liking an artist are way more fucking intolerable. Keep being miserable and try again.
you have 0 ball knowledge and you’re just letting people know for free. sick individual
hating is lame
I wish the intro spanned the entirety of the video
7:13 What Fantano describes here is actually the exact reason I got into Radiohead, For a good while I was just kind eh on them, They're alright but there's far better stuff out there, But then one time I tried singing "Karma Police" and I was just like "Goddang that's actually pretty good.", And now I like Radiohead.
I’ve tried numerous times to listen to their albums & tbh it’s just so bland and boring. It reminds me of the times when people would pull out a guitar and force you to listen to them play
@@datboib3432 Honestly I haven't actually listened to any of their albums in full, but they have a few songs I like. I feel their music is much better if you try to focus on the instrumentation rather than the vocals, because being honest Thom Yorke's vocals are just not that exciting.
@@datboib3432The title track off Kid A included?
@@rateeightx yeah they have a few good songs but for the amount of praise they get, it doesn’t really make sense to me
@@MrLurchMedia yeah, I tried listening to kid a twice in full - once in high school, once a few years ago (though admittedly, I was skipping through most of the tracks after ~a minute)
They got some good songs but imo only like 4 or 5 over most of their early albums. They dont have an album that I can listen to all the way through, its boring & there’s no great return for sitting through it all imo
Carti music sounds like it's made by someone who hates modern rap. Like, if I wanted to make fun of modern rap and made a joke song to show how stupid it sounds to me, it'd probably sound exactly like a Carti song
Anthony’s bass: *so… fuck me, right?*
Saying “Carti has no misses” is some of the most obvious bait I’ve heard in a while
he really doesnt though
carti don’t got misses
He doesn’t
Considering his fan base, I can see them truly thinking that
Ffs Travis himself did the beat switch thing on 90210 well before sicko mode
Yeah, and even if you want to extend that argument into "well Rodeo was 10+ years ago", JID had a beat switch track (NEVER) in 2017, a year before Astroworld/Sicko Mode.
@@bionicle2122 kendrick also hit the beat switch on DNA in early 2017
@@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT Nothing Was The Same was full of beat switches and that came out in 2013
Yeah and he did it way better on 90210. Also beat switches have been a thing for decades I guess people just aren’t aware that music before 2018 exists
Nights by Frank Ocean perfected the beat switch and the rap game is still playing catch up
Madlib and Freddie Gibbs already mastered the art on Piñata years before Blond
Blonde was an album I didn’t get into till like 2 years ago.. I know some of songs are heartbreakingly tragic but it fills me with a sense of calm I can’t explain - album makes me feel like i’m in a garden wearing oversized clothes and chasing butterflies 🦋
@@world_of_manny_malibufake names too, the switch is godly
@@MilesMcCoyYTstop spamming
phil elverum mastered the beat switch on mount eerie and no one talks abt it
its ok melon. you’ll always be the king of the beach in out hearts ❤️
I've got to say, bowie's catalogue from 90 and 2000s is pretty underrated
Maybe, but not better than the 70s-80s records
Trueeee, heathen and the next day show his solid foundations of songwriting and performance were still incredible at that point and Buddha of suburbia and earthling both show how he was still that deep into his career and pushing experimental sounds and never resting on his laurels. Love all four of those projects and while comparing any album to the Berlin trilogy is a tough ask, that era still stands up better than albums earlier in his career (never let me down) and certainly shows how he was head and shoulders above other mega stars when it comes to always trying to make new and exciting music and take actual risks
Also, one could argue blackstar the track was one point of foreshadowing for the current trend of beat switching (although I doubt there is a ton of direct inspiration there)
@@caman225Heathen is amazing
I will say that Let's Dance and Scary Monsters aren't enough to beat what he dropped in the 90s and onwards (even though I love Scary Monsters). That said, his 70s stuff is top tier
Never understood what the appeal of Carti is. Especially now that the generic trap sound that permeates all his music post 2020 is getting really played out. It's insulting at this point to call his brand of hip hop experimental, because it's probably the least experimental sound currently circulating in mainstream rap.
With his early shit I figured I just "didn't get it" but nah that boy is ass
Basically all of his singles for this new album sound really bland. Like, he just sounds bored on all of them and can't deliver with that same raw energy he had on WLR
Dude is trash as hell, don;t get why people like him lol, only thing good about him is his beats. Lyrics are staright garbage
Look man, call me an old head or whatever but I cannot stand the way he sounds, bro that is so whiny and like his voice is like so unappealing to listen to
Im convinced hes a social experiment on “group think” cuz hes awful and doesnt make sense how it has fans
Can’t believe you turned 50 the other week Melon… time certainly flies.
Cardi missed adinrosses stream
No one does a beat switch quite like DJ Premier.
imagine dragons?
nah brother man, you imagine them, i aint trippin
Unpopular Opinion: twitter need some sort of barrier to entry, most of these opinions are stupid
Racism is the barrier and that explains the issue
Melon how are you doing today
"Overly dramatic and tacky and gross."
You could say the same thing about Billie Eilish, but Anthony RAVES over her...
Fantano just cursed Carti for the rest of his career
This Let's Argue was in fact a Let's Croon, and I'm absolutely positively here for it. Keep channeling that Scotty, my man!
Also, Ryan, good work with finding instrumentals that are actually somewhat in key with Anthony's surf-singing, I applaud the attention to detail 🤣
that intro was really cool, Anthony. you're forgiven for the carti disrespect. i too wish to be the king of the waves.
this video did NOT age well lmaoo
true
What happen
@@mrlevinielsen nothing. he's just a glazer.
This could be a podcast segment, I swear I could listen to the melon’s voice forever
If you like melon so much why don't you marry melon?
these intros keep getting more and more unhinged
Watching this after he went missing on adins stream
Fantano wearing a Fairfield county crew neck when everyone knows Hartford county is where it’s at 😤
Anthony Fantano is actually Scott Stapp in disguise
Anthony ur intros get better every video and I’ve been watching for years. Keep it up 💪
Audioslave self titled is THE post grunge ten
"There's no such thing as over produced", c'mon Jack Antonoff we know that's your burner account lmao
fantano is milking carti's aura so much rn
Fantano making out of the hood with this one. Love that you are very direct with your opinion while perfecting delivery with your humor🤝🏼
Extremely disappointed that melon didn't drop the greatest bass solo we've ever heard before the video started.
Radioactive is low key high key a banger. Thats all im going to sat
Bowie from 1993-2003 is underrated and better than his 1980-1990 output. 1. Outside... is a legit masterpiece that belongs with his best work (the closest thing to Blackstar he did previously) Heathen is great and Earthling, Hours... and Buddha of Suburbia are solid. But yeah, hard to find a decade of music by any artist that is better than Bowie in the 70s, that part of the take is ridiculous.
Finally someone that appreciates Heathens, I feel is really underappreciated in the fandom
VAMP TIME VAMP TIME VAMP TIME VAMP TIME VAMP TIME VAMP TIME
Melon got some comedy chops on him. This segment had me ded 🤣
Can’t have misses if you don’t get married
Not Imagine Dragons but I feel that sentiment is true for Maroon 5. I remember really liking their early stuff at one point in time but I can't find what I used to like about them in their newer stuff.
WLR is by far an album I just think not many can wrap their mind around. I had to force that shit down my throat at first, and now, I think it's a masterpiece of Carti's. You realize how much you remember about each song after how ever many listens.
I can tell you have not listened to WLR more than one time with that attitude lol and it was probably in 2020 on the day of.
0:37 Fantano's editor plays Football Manager?
Imagine Dragons are pretty bland for the most part, but Night Visions had some bangers. Fight me.
Wow Melon, way to leak Creed's "King of the Beach" track from their upcoming 2024 album.
lol fantano making sexy red out to be some high level art is WILDDDDDDDDDD 😅
Yeah she's likes his biggest crush it's so funny and dumb🥺🤓
Playboi carti definitely “missed” when he strangled his pregnant girlfriend, or neglected his child (who will probably struggle with problems derived from that for a significant portion of their life). Also his music isn’t all that, I’ve never felt compelled to listen, but when a track of his came on on the algorithm the other day I skipped and thought it was LQ trash.
i agree, the one big carti fan ik likes him because they’re both brain dead from drugs
Is that your business? Are you some SJW?
8:13 As a Pacific Northwest native, I feel really personally attacked by your evergreen slander.
I love the beat switching it gives the tracks more substance and when its unexpected it can go hard af
If it wasn't for lil Uzi vert Playboy Carti would have been forgotten
No.
Uzi hasn’t made better music than carti since like 2017
@@itsallenwow how
Can't wait for Human Clay, but it's just Fantanos' voice.
We should also define what a true miss is. Because if one person loves it but another hates it is truly a miss?
"No such thing as a 10/10 Post-Grunge album"
TOOL and Deftones would like to know your location
Let’s Argue: LosPollos and Fantano are secretly in love
What’s interesting about the beat switch take is for griselda I genuinely hope at least one song on an album has a switch and usually they don’t or it’s very rare (double hockey sticks, reversible, rip Bobby, etc but their production is good enough for me to wanna hear 2 beats. Trav is very good at it too
Playboi carti does have misses....he's missing braincells much like his fans who keep trying to make him relevant
no? we like the music just cause you like it doesn’t mean we can’t
Pretentious opinion
I like some songs on Night Visions like Selene, Tiptoe, and Nothing Left to Say
that's as far as my imagine dragons appreciation goes but i do really like those songs
Night visions is actually decent
@@stopmypanda3191 agreed
I agree with everything Fantano says about sexy red, her gimmick and personality Justus t for me.
Just because Playboi Carti doesn't have a wife doesn't mean you need to make that that title of the video.
"If it was called Whole Lotta To Pimp a Butterfly you'd say he has a perfect discog" 🤓👆
Just because I was winning the argument doesn't mean you had to bring my mother into this, Anthony.
Third Eye Blind s/t is close to a 10/10 post-grunge album
I remember when he used to start these by playing the bass. Look where he is now. The beach.
One of these days there will be a let's argue and it will just be anthony doing an intro bit for ten minutes
When melon said “transition” I thought the video was over
Imagine thinking New England is special for fall colors when that happens in California too. He doesn’t know how trees work and we care about his opinion?
Cardi doesn't miss no opportunity to scam mofos😂
Fantano tryna be Emporer of the Beach no offense to The Chats
Nothing screams "I make midi-sounding beats" more than the username Morgoth Beatz.
Of course he doesn't think music can be overproduced!
There’s no way he’s still defending the sexxy redd take homie it’s A TERRIBLE TAKE just accept that literally no one else agrees with you and move on just own it
what if Melon had a built in emote where he rips off his clothes...
6:45 "mid, basic, generic, unseasoned." Damn melon at least look at me when you shoot a bullet through my head.
The outro music on the patreon supporters slaps.. feel like JID needs that beat
Melon I just noticed you've dyed your moustache
thank you for having me anthony
I read this as no missus as in like he has no girlfriend in British english 💀
they were calling the bass intros a guitar intro, I'm surprised he didn't go into a rage fit about the bass confusion
he hasn’t released an album in over 2 years and is still one of the top artists.
I feel the same way about Tyler's music being better before [in terms of the david bowie part] i understand that he's happier making the music he makes now though so as much as I love the older music it's not worth having the guy be depressed again just to make the music I like
Tbh if you're working exclusively in a Daw with VSTs and samples rather than love musicians, it takes *more* producing to make something sound messy and raw than it does to make it sound clean and snapped to the grid
I'm not so sure about samples, especially old samples (that tend to already have swing). But it does take more effort not snapping things to the grid with VSTs and even live instruments in very electronic music (i.e. trap, DnB, Dubstep, etc.) because of producer's tendency to quantize things...
Glad to have received these opinions but I want YOURS on ITS TOO QUIET
Alternate title: Melon learns the power of playboi carti fans to get views
Why no more bass in Let's Argue videos? 🥺