even in the other sports, the top pick in the mlb, mark appel, was a 6'5 pitcher out of stanford who didn't make his pro debut until last year. the best of the four is easily nathan mackinnon, who is great now, but my guy came out of springhill, nova scotia... a town with less than 2000 people currently.
@@f1naliz3d I am a Pirates fan and when he fell to them the year before, I was excited. He didn't sign and it was back to being a depressed Pirates fan.
Yeah I l disagree. It’s easier to make that argument since they won, that will never be taken away from him. However, that high and the expectations, he’s just another guy. You don’t go #1 overall to be another guy
He was a good pick and a great player but it's foolish to say we wouldn't have won the super bowl without him. People said we wouldn't win the super bowl without tyreek too
The endings are so elite. Really happy that you went with Adam Thielen, I feel like the DHop falling to the late first in 2013 narrative is brought up too much
I mean, yes the original comment was ridiculous & definitely a keep it to yourself kinda story but cut that dude some slack.. To us gamers Madden was REAL god damn it!
2013 NBA draft is pretty bad and unorthodox. Sporting Logically did a good video on that draft, and it sounds like there wasn’t a good consensus on who should have gone first there.
pete carroll loves to take former 1st round busts and try to see if they could’ve been better, but eventually shown that they actually were busts/not good
@@dylanpalacios2504 He loves oddities that have high athleticism. I think he also believes that bringing them into his culture might help them buy in, as many players feel alienated coming into the league due to the pressure even without considering issues with scheme, culture etc. The pressure under Carroll was more about making everything about competing while having fun doing it in the form of a family (to the point that Carroll believed players who left, unless leaving uncermoniously, always had the opportunity to return "home" regardless of where they started in the league). I think its very reminiscent of what Al Davis did when he owned the Raiders, but treating them as opportunities for competition vs curios. I also wonder if he uses their presence for younger players, showcasing draft status didn't mean anything. Which again, helps his culture. But thats my opinion.
Yup, I'm gonna miss Adam Thielen. We grew up about 120 miles from each other way up here in northern Minnesota. I was an instant fan when he took the field in his first preseason game. If memory serves, he was signed to the practice squad his rookie season. But I saw greatness in him when he took the field at the Metrodome that first time in the 4th quarter of that game. Everyone had predicted my boy wouldn't make the 53 man roster OR the practice squad. He had that northern Minnesota work ethic.
I think personal package is overlooked imagine coming from a super poor family thats a lot of extra pressure,plus the player's that went hard as fk like legends like manziel exmp are already hlf burnout cuz the journey there was sucha grind plus being a super high pick thats crazy pressure for a 21 yr old especially if u was wild boy tryn have discipline to resist not getting turned up 24 7 your 1st check more most people accumulate literally there whole life
Worst Cowboys Draft ever: After Travis Kelce told the Cowboys at the combine not to draft him, the Cowboys took Gavin Escobar at pick 47, Kelce went at 63. The cowboys passed on Keenan Allen in the third round due to off the field and injury concerns and took Terrance Williams at 74. Allen went at 76. The Cowboys coulda had 3 hall of fame talents in their first 3 picks, (Travis Frederick woulda been a hall of famer without the disease he had) and hard to imagine them not winning a super bowl. Taking Taco Charlton over TJ Watt in 2017 was also brutal
As a Detroit Lions fan, Ziggy Ansah was awesome! It helped that he played his first two seasons on the same line with Ndamagong Suh. Ansah was very fast and elusive. His nickname was The Notorious Z. I.G. He brought a lot of excitement to the game. Like anything else, injuries caught up to him and he wanted a lot towards the end of his time with Detroit.
13:20 Having suffered this injury, KTO's statement is absolutely true. Not a day goes by that I don't feel it, and it happened over seven years ago! My son half-jokingly asked me how long my Achilles' tendon took to heal. I responded with, "When it does, I'll let you know."
@@fortynights1513I think Patterson has a chance of being in the Hall of Fame but It will probably be something that happens many years after he retires
Hmm I wonder what major change occurred in the lions organization in 2016. People write ansah off as a bust but neglect the fact his team suddenly stopped blitzing when Pateicia got there and had the fewest sacks in the league each year he was coach.
Tavon Austin still has the Best College Highlight Tape on UA-cam. He was a sight to behold when I watched him in High School and then to WVU. We were hyped when him & Stedman Bailey got drafted on the Same Team.
This is kind of why scouting and assessing talent is always regarded as kind of an art, since it's virtually impossible to fully predict if someone will flourish or completely wash out for various factors. 2013 is probably the best instance, seeing so many 1st round picks being average as best, or outright busts at worst. In fact, you have to look at the late first round to find the diamond in the rough with DeAndre Hopkins, who went 27th overall to the Texans. Travis Frederick and Cordarrelle Patterson also came off pretty late in the first round too. It's also kind of crazy that talents like Zach Ertz, Darius Slay, and Le'Veon Bell only came off the board in the 2nd round. In the third round, you may have heard of guys named Travis Kelce, Tyrann Mathieu, Terron Armstead and Keenan Allen. Rodgers' long time blindside tackle David Bakhtiari had to wait till the 4th round for his name to be called out. Fitting for the Ravens to find gems in the late rounds in Kyle Juszczyk (4th) and Ryan Jensen (6th). Considering the sheer difference in starter level caliber talent found between the 1st and the later rounds, yeah. Crazy is quite the understatement.
I do feel for Johnathan Cooper. It must be hard to lose most of your ability due to injury right out of the gate and then only be remembered as the guy the Cards traded to get Chandler Jones (thanks for that one Belichick).
Honestly I would be totally happy and content with a first overall pick going to an offensive line Tackle that ends up being “good but not great”. A solid starter for the team for 8 season. We all want first overall picks to be flashy and super stars and top athletes. But Eric Fisher I think is a very acceptable first pick.
Especially considering that other than Johnson, he may have been the best player in the top handful. Most of the players who were leaps and bounds better than him (ex: Travis Kelce, DeAndre Hopkins) probably weren't thought of as a top pick when Kansas City was selecting.
Seeing all the busts drafted in the top 10, I think it was a good pick for KC. People want to see the flashy picks, but a safe option that becomes a staple for 8 years is a successful draft pick.
The Chiefs probably had it best in the 2013 draft since not only did they get Eric Fisher they also stole future hall of fame tight end Travis Kelce and he helped them win two super bowls and is on course to surpass Tony Gonzalez.
I remember 2013 the first year that I watched the combine and the draft and basically the whole process on the NFL network and the one thing that most of the ex players on the shows were saying that this was a bad class with too many reaches and way too many boom or bust prospects. Lol I think Jamie Duke basically said that nobody was good enough to be a consensus top overall player.
LANE PAVER!!!! Lane Johnson is the MF MAN!!!! Best player in that draft and one of the best to ever play right tackle!! He shuts down the best pass rushers every single week!!!
Vikings had multiple 1st round picks and they all did very well. Sharif floyd was so good before his botched surgery. Xavier Rhodes was an all pro corner for multiple seasons, and cordarelle Patterson is still a play making machine.
As a Vikings fan, nice dish on Theilan. He worked his ass off on ST for a few years before he got his chance at WR. Sorry to see him go but, the cap is the cap.
DeAndre Hopkins, Zach Ertz, Travis Kelce, Travis Frederick, Lane Johnson, David Bakhtiari, Terron Armstead that's a pretty strong class, especially for offensive linemen and tight ends
My boy lane is amazing, I actually never knew about his time in college though, and that was awesome to here, I hope he makes the HOF one day, cuz that would be awesome story
2013 was a mid draft at best, and is one of the worst of its generation. Though if we consider everything since the common draft, 1984 was very watered down by the USFL draft (some very good players in supplemental draft could have gone first, but the actual draft featured nobody who is in Canton right now), and 1992 was also very bad I believe. Also, if you go back to the earliest days of the draft (30’s, 40’s and such), you’ll find drafts where a lot of people didn’t sign. So there’s that too.
@@sportsnstuff5557 In my opinion 2013 is underwhelming, but as a collective, I think we could look at it more favorably than we do the 1984 and 1992 drafts. As you said, Darren Woodson is a borderline Hall of Fame player who may make it in someday, but other than him there aren’t really any others in 92’s draft who I could see making it in unless I’m forgetting someone. As for the actual 1984 NFL draft, there is nobody who realistically has a chance to get into the Hall of Fame. The best players in 84 are probably Irving Fryar who had a very solid career, and to his credit was tenth in career receiving yards at the time of his retirement, and made five pro bowls and a pair of second team all pro selections (if he was on a team that threw more in his earlier years, he could have made more of an argument for himself perhaps, but as is he’s not on that level). Wilber Marshall (an underrated linebacker from those years who was a key player on the 85 Bears and 91 Skins; and the best player on the latter team’s defense in the opinion of the guy who coordinated it). There’s also Boomer Esiason and Keith Millard who won an MVP and Defensive Player of the Year respectively at their peaks, and shoutout to Carl Banks for being much like Marshall, a similarly overlooked piece of the Big Blue Wrecking Crew and making an all pro team in 1987. There were some solid careers among the 84 draftees, but I don’t see any of those guys making it to Canton. If the USFL wasn’t around and the entire 1984 college graduating class was in the draft, then 1984 would have had three Hall of Famers (Steve Young, Reggie White, and Gary Zimmerman). I say 2013 is better than both of those because Travis Kelce might be a Hall of Famer, and there’s also DeAndre Hopkins who has five all pro teams on his resume, and while not Hall of Famers, Cordarelle Patterson and Tyrann Mathieu also have three or more first team all pro selections in their careers.
@@sportsnstuff5557 Its annoying how lesser Safeties than Woodson are in the Hall; also Jimmy Smith has a chance eventually Man Jimmy Johnson was a draft genius before going to the Dolphins
The Chiefs had a pretty solid 2013 draft. Eric Fisher was a solid LT for years, Knile Davis was decent, Mike Catapano was a solid role player, Eric Kush was an OK Center, and I hear that Travis Kelce guy is a pretty good player.
Saying Travis Kelce is just pretty good is a massive understatement. He’s one of the greatest tight ends of all time. He helped end the Chiefs 50 year drought, he holds the record for most consecutive 1000 yard seasons by a tight end, he almost became the first tight end to lead the league in receiving yards, holds the record for most receiving yards in a season by a tight end, has the record for most touchdowns by a tight end in the postseason, and won two Super Bowls in a span of four years.
KTOOOOOOOOO!!! Thanks for another one. Man that 2013 draft was rooouuuuggghh. I remember many of those names, forgot and now know where they went or are. Props to Thielen. I didn't know he went completely undrafted. Diamonds in the rough.
Geno Smith is probably the only player from that draft class that is still in the league. It took him 10 years to finally make pro bowl. What a weird draft.
One of my favorite moments about Lane Johnson other than being a Solid RT, was when Travis Kelce said "Lane Johnson can't lay off the Juice" 😂. Go Birds!
How you rate an o-lineman. Like a kicker if you don't notice him he's doing a great if you can forget he's on the field. The offense was top in the league because maholms could get the time to throw. I feel so disgusting building up a chip but he was a great at his position.
2013's first round worked out in Dallas. We got an All-Pro center who would be a Hall of Famer if he didn't get Guillain-Barre syndrome. He luckily survived, and even played a return season before retiring. We love Travis "Fredbeard" Fredrick here in Dallas. I hope he's healthy and happy in retirement. 🎉🎉🎉
Funny The pats traded out of the 1st round but ended up with like 3 different 1st round players from this draft. Mingo, Cooper and Patterson. But they got Jamie Collins, Logan Ryan and Duron Harmon all three starters for them.
Baseball had a couple good players in the first round that year. Tim Anderson, Kris Bryant, and Aaron Judge (who was a supplemental pick). The saving grace of the 2013 NBA draft was Giannis. Victor Oladipo, CJ McCollum and Rudy Gobert are also good players.
The first round of 2013 was admittedly pretty thin, but there were still some good players selected in that draft if you could find them. Xavier Rhodes, DeAndre Hopkins, Cordarrelle Patterson, Travis Frederick, Zach Ertz, Darius Slay, Le’Veon Bell, Travis Kelce, Tyrann Mathieu, Keenan Allen among others. As a Packers fan, I have some fondness for this draft, as they selected David Bakhtiari and Micah Hyde in the later rounds.
Man I remember in 2017 Seattle when Dion Jordan had 4 sacks in 5 games and we were all hyped about him a classic Pete Carroll reclamation project then he busted in 2018
Fish was a big part of the Chiefs LIV win, and his ACL tear in the AFC Championship game the next year doomed them in LV. KC also got Kelce later on in that draft.
Brandon Graham Tore his Achilles only to come back the next year and get 11 sacks as a 34 year old and he didn’t win Comeback Player of the year. Absolutely stunning
11:14 I was in the stands of the preseason game, right in front of Jonathan Cooper, when he broke his leg. Damn shame he couldn’t stay healthy and have a long career in the league.
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A central michigan offensive tackle, and a 6’8” 260 pound power forward from the mountain west. The #1 picks in 2013 were so strange
even in the other sports, the top pick in the mlb, mark appel, was a 6'5 pitcher out of stanford who didn't make his pro debut until last year. the best of the four is easily nathan mackinnon, who is great now, but my guy came out of springhill, nova scotia... a town with less than 2000 people currently.
@@f1naliz3d the four? You must be from the north
@@burneraccount9359 how was he supposed to say it?😂
@@burneraccount9359 🤨
@@f1naliz3d I am a Pirates fan and when he fell to them the year before, I was excited. He didn't sign and it was back to being a depressed Pirates fan.
Eric Fisher may not have been “1st pick worthy” but the Chiefs couldn’t have won Super Bowl 54 without him
And in the following Super Bowl they probably would have liked to have had him healthy.
You and the first guy that commented this one hit it on the nose
I would disagree
Yeah I l disagree. It’s easier to make that argument since they won, that will never be taken away from him. However, that high and the expectations, he’s just another guy. You don’t go #1 overall to be another guy
He was a good pick and a great player but it's foolish to say we wouldn't have won the super bowl without him. People said we wouldn't win the super bowl without tyreek too
The endings are so elite. Really happy that you went with Adam Thielen, I feel like the DHop falling to the late first in 2013 narrative is brought up too much
Hopkins has been very good, but yeah, Thielen succeeding would have been far more unexpected.
Hopkins is a future Hall of famer
Ah, Ziggy Ansah. What might have been. He was hurt so often that he could never become consistent, but when healthy, he was an incredible player.
Ziggy was a freak athlete. He started football really late. His body wasn't used to the punishment.
I remember madden 17 and 18 always picking up Luke Joekel in fa and moving him to guard he was usually pretty serviceable
Thanks for that. That almost has something to do with real football.
@@Schneids71 just like your comment has no relevance to a good memory about a bad player. Go pound sand, kid.
@@Schneids71show us on the doll where the video game touched you
I mean, yes the original comment was ridiculous & definitely a keep it to yourself kinda story but cut that dude some slack..
To us gamers Madden was REAL god damn it!
@@Schneids71you seem fun to be around
Finally a video on the 2013 draft that gives Lane Johnson the respect he deserves!
I know right!
Didn't he get suspended for PED's. I guess he voted for Hillary. 202 pounds to 325. I don't think so. But whatever, Your time is coming.
I mean.... How can you not? He's first ballot HOF
Even though the photos of the dog mask were Chris long and not lane Johnson lol.
Best transition I’ve seen! Lane is definitely a HOF!
its really interesting how 2013 is looked back on as a terrible draft year for both the NFL and NBA
2013 NBA draft is pretty bad and unorthodox.
Sporting Logically did a good video on that draft, and it sounds like there wasn’t a good consensus on who should have gone first there.
Which is funny because the 2013 MLB draft was pretty decent. Kris Bryant and Aaron Judge to name a few
@@theseattle2062 where they top picks?
(A legit question, not being a smart ass)
@@fallout3fanboy1 Kris Bryant went #2 overall, Judge was a late 1st rounder
2014 draft was significantly worse for the NBA, 2013 has turned into a good class
I love how at least four of them played for Seattle around the same time.
pete carroll loves to take former 1st round busts and try to see if they could’ve been better, but eventually shown that they actually were busts/not good
Bout to say the same thing
@@dylanpalacios2504 He loves oddities that have high athleticism. I think he also believes that bringing them into his culture might help them buy in, as many players feel alienated coming into the league due to the pressure even without considering issues with scheme, culture etc. The pressure under Carroll was more about making everything about competing while having fun doing it in the form of a family (to the point that Carroll believed players who left, unless leaving uncermoniously, always had the opportunity to return "home" regardless of where they started in the league). I think its very reminiscent of what Al Davis did when he owned the Raiders, but treating them as opportunities for competition vs curios.
I also wonder if he uses their presence for younger players, showcasing draft status didn't mean anything. Which again, helps his culture. But thats my opinion.
Lane Johnson is crazy. Played multiple positions in the highest level of college football, at one of the most prestigious colleges football wise
KTO coming in clutch I’ve been binge watching his and flemlos videos can’t wait to watch this one ☝🏿
Yup, I'm gonna miss Adam Thielen. We grew up about 120 miles from each other way up here in northern Minnesota. I was an instant fan when he took the field in his first preseason game. If memory serves, he was signed to the practice squad his rookie season. But I saw greatness in him when he took the field at the Metrodome that first time in the 4th quarter of that game. Everyone had predicted my boy wouldn't make the 53 man roster OR the practice squad. He had that northern Minnesota work ethic.
You had a famous neighbor
I think personal package is overlooked imagine coming from a super poor family thats a lot of extra pressure,plus the player's that went hard as fk like legends like manziel exmp are already hlf burnout cuz the journey there was sucha grind plus being a super high pick thats crazy pressure for a 21 yr old especially if u was wild boy tryn have discipline to resist not getting turned up 24 7 your 1st check more most people accumulate literally there whole life
Worst Cowboys Draft ever:
After Travis Kelce told the Cowboys at the combine not to draft him, the Cowboys took Gavin Escobar at pick 47, Kelce went at 63.
The cowboys passed on Keenan Allen in the third round due to off the field and injury concerns and took Terrance Williams at 74. Allen went at 76.
The Cowboys coulda had 3 hall of fame talents in their first 3 picks, (Travis Frederick woulda been a hall of famer without the disease he had) and hard to imagine them not winning a super bowl.
Taking Taco Charlton over TJ Watt in 2017 was also brutal
As a Detroit Lions fan, Ziggy Ansah was awesome! It helped that he played his first two seasons on the same line with Ndamagong Suh. Ansah was very fast and elusive. His nickname was The Notorious Z. I.G. He brought a lot of excitement to the game. Like anything else, injuries caught up to him and he wanted a lot towards the end of his time with Detroit.
13:20
Having suffered this injury, KTO's statement is absolutely true. Not a day goes by that I don't feel it, and it happened over seven years ago! My son half-jokingly asked me how long my Achilles' tendon took to heal.
I responded with, "When it does, I'll let you know."
Not to mention, Deandre Hopkins was also a pick in this class
So was Keenan Allen
So was Travis kelce
Not a Hall of Famer, but Cordarelle Patterson is one of the best return specialists of the last decade too.
@@fortynights1513I think Patterson has a chance of being in the Hall of Fame but It will probably be something that happens many years after he retires
@@DeosPraetorian they haven't even inducted Devin Hester so I'd be surprised if Patterson got in. Despite both being elite
Hmm I wonder what major change occurred in the lions organization in 2016. People write ansah off as a bust but neglect the fact his team suddenly stopped blitzing when Pateicia got there and had the fewest sacks in the league each year he was coach.
He did have a bunch of injuries too, but having Patricia as a coach probably did him no favors
Patricia being there did not help him at all
Patricia and quinn were trash. I said it when they arrived but nooo everyone was so hyped to be patriot lite
@@lordoz2578 Patricia being there hurt the team and arguably the culture. Luckily for them, it seems to have worked out thus far with Dan Campbell.
Tavon Austin still has the Best College Highlight Tape on UA-cam. He was a sight to behold when I watched him in High School and then to WVU. We were hyped when him & Stedman Bailey got drafted on the Same Team.
Let’s not forget the best tight end was this draft, Travis Kelce
Kelce isn't a Right End lol
We know
Tight*
Right end? Roh Roh!
Mr Pfizer
This is kind of why scouting and assessing talent is always regarded as kind of an art, since it's virtually impossible to fully predict if someone will flourish or completely wash out for various factors. 2013 is probably the best instance, seeing so many 1st round picks being average as best, or outright busts at worst. In fact, you have to look at the late first round to find the diamond in the rough with DeAndre Hopkins, who went 27th overall to the Texans. Travis Frederick and Cordarrelle Patterson also came off pretty late in the first round too.
It's also kind of crazy that talents like Zach Ertz, Darius Slay, and Le'Veon Bell only came off the board in the 2nd round. In the third round, you may have heard of guys named Travis Kelce, Tyrann Mathieu, Terron Armstead and Keenan Allen. Rodgers' long time blindside tackle David Bakhtiari had to wait till the 4th round for his name to be called out. Fitting for the Ravens to find gems in the late rounds in Kyle Juszczyk (4th) and Ryan Jensen (6th). Considering the sheer difference in starter level caliber talent found between the 1st and the later rounds, yeah. Crazy is quite the understatement.
Lane was the only player drafted in the top 10 that was worth the pick.
I thought I was gonna hear “with the first pick, the Kansas City chiefs select, Leon Sandcaste”
😂😂😂😂
Kind of wild how 5 of these players ended up signing with Seattle at one point
As a Seattle fan it's a pretty common occurrence lmao
Truly a draft ever, of all time, in the history, in every sense of the word
There were certainly 10 football players picked with those first 10 picks - that much we can say
@@evanmaunders5688 I was hoping they would select people, and I wasn't disappointed.
When the replies are on a completely higher level than the actual comment 😂
@@tjanderson5892 Those were definitely some replies
Tom Brady is black.
I literally just watched a video yesterday on J&D Productions about the same topic: The 2013 Nfl class.
You know it’s a good day when Kto posts
Lane Johnson is a doggone athlete. What a beast!!!
You got me KTO I thought Geno Smith was going to get the last mention/clip
Glad you didn’t disrespect Lane Johnson like I’ve seen other 2013 draft videos do
Can’t. Best RT in football.
I do feel for Johnathan Cooper. It must be hard to lose most of your ability due to injury right out of the gate and then only be remembered as the guy the Cards traded to get Chandler Jones (thanks for that one Belichick).
Honestly I would be totally happy and content with a first overall pick going to an offensive line Tackle that ends up being “good but not great”. A solid starter for the team for 8 season. We all want first overall picks to be flashy and super stars and top athletes. But Eric Fisher I think is a very acceptable first pick.
Especially considering that other than Johnson, he may have been the best player in the top handful.
Most of the players who were leaps and bounds better than him (ex: Travis Kelce, DeAndre Hopkins) probably weren't thought of as a top pick when Kansas City was selecting.
Seeing all the busts drafted in the top 10, I think it was a good pick for KC. People want to see the flashy picks, but a safe option that becomes a staple for 8 years is a successful draft pick.
KTO and revisiting previous drafts
Name a more iconic duo
As a diehard Chiefs fan from KC, I’ll be forever grateful for what Eric Fisher did on our playoff run to the 19’ Super Bowl win. 🙌🏾
Protected Alex Smith then Pat Mahomes
The Chiefs probably had it best in the 2013 draft since not only did they get Eric Fisher they also stole future hall of fame tight end Travis Kelce and he helped them win two super bowls and is on course to surpass Tony Gonzalez.
He sucked, he was a turnstile that couldn’t block anyone. Chiefs fans are stupid.
@@jacksonconley5117fisher sucked.
@@jacksonconley5117travis Kelce isn’t a hall of famer.
I remember 2013 the first year that I watched the combine and the draft and basically the whole process on the NFL network and the one thing that most of the ex players on the shows were saying that this was a bad class with too many reaches and way too many boom or bust prospects. Lol I think Jamie Duke basically said that nobody was good enough to be a consensus top overall player.
Most underrated nfl UA-camr, I love your videos.
KTO and Flemlo are hands down, the best nfl UA-camrs.
Lane Johnson is probably the second most important player on the Eagles.
odd little fact: 6 of the top 15 picks in this draft all played a season or two for the Seahawks between 2017-2019
New KTO video is an instant watch
LANE PAVER!!!! Lane Johnson is the MF MAN!!!! Best player in that draft and one of the best to ever play right tackle!! He shuts down the best pass rushers every single week!!!
Im from MN. The Adam Theilen (sp) story is one we all love.
I still can’t believe the Bills took EJ lol. Great video as always
I remember he wasn’t projecting that high until the days leading up to the draft, when his stock shot through the roof.
Travis Kelce was selected in the 3rd round
Yes because Reid coached his older brother and knew Travis through him.
Lane is a staple here in Philly and one of my absolute favorite players. So glad we drafted him.
Your videos are always so cool to watch keep it up🔥🔥❗❗
This was a great draft for the Kansas City Chiefs drafting Eric Fisher and later on Travis kelce in the third round
Fisher sucked.
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Vikings had multiple 1st round picks and they all did very well. Sharif floyd was so good before his botched surgery. Xavier Rhodes was an all pro corner for multiple seasons, and cordarelle Patterson is still a play making machine.
Barkevious Mingo is my favorite NFL name of all time
As a Vikings fan, nice dish on Theilan. He worked his ass off on ST for a few years before he got his chance at WR. Sorry to see him go but, the cap is the cap.
kto i been watching u for years wanted to say your videos are really good and fs quality over quantity
Yo brother i love every video youve ever put out you crush it every time keep em coming bro
Man I love the ending clips…the beat goes hard! 🤣
DeAndre Hopkins, Zach Ertz, Travis Kelce, Travis Frederick, Lane Johnson, David Bakhtiari, Terron Armstead that's a pretty strong class, especially for offensive linemen and tight ends
Hell yea... 1st round early 2nd seems shaky compared to later picks.
Had to smile when I saw Ziggy... he may not have been a world calibur edge rusher but damn with him and Suh our d-line could be NASTY
Video ending always dope, keep up the great videos man 👍🏼
My boy lane is amazing, I actually never knew about his time in college though, and that was awesome to here, I hope he makes the HOF one day, cuz that would be awesome story
Wasn't Lane recruited to OU as a QB of all things?
2013 was a mid draft at best, and is one of the worst of its generation.
Though if we consider everything since the common draft, 1984 was very watered down by the USFL draft (some very good players in supplemental draft could have gone first, but the actual draft featured nobody who is in Canton right now), and 1992 was also very bad I believe.
Also, if you go back to the earliest days of the draft (30’s, 40’s and such), you’ll find drafts where a lot of people didn’t sign. So there’s that too.
1992 has not produced a single hall of famer, though darren Woodson needs to be put in do maybe that will change some day
@@sportsnstuff5557 In my opinion 2013 is underwhelming, but as a collective, I think we could look at it more favorably than we do the 1984 and 1992 drafts.
As you said, Darren Woodson is a borderline Hall of Fame player who may make it in someday, but other than him there aren’t really any others in 92’s draft who I could see making it in unless I’m forgetting someone.
As for the actual 1984 NFL draft, there is nobody who realistically has a chance to get into the Hall of Fame.
The best players in 84 are probably Irving Fryar who had a very solid career, and to his credit was tenth in career receiving yards at the time of his retirement, and made five pro bowls and a pair of second team all pro selections (if he was on a team that threw more in his earlier years, he could have made more of an argument for himself perhaps, but as is he’s not on that level).
Wilber Marshall (an underrated linebacker from those years who was a key player on the 85 Bears and 91 Skins; and the best player on the latter team’s defense in the opinion of the guy who coordinated it).
There’s also Boomer Esiason and Keith Millard who won an MVP and Defensive Player of the Year respectively at their peaks, and shoutout to Carl Banks for being much like Marshall, a similarly overlooked piece of the Big Blue Wrecking Crew and making an all pro team in 1987.
There were some solid careers among the 84 draftees, but I don’t see any of those guys making it to Canton.
If the USFL wasn’t around and the entire 1984 college graduating class was in the draft, then 1984 would have had three Hall of Famers (Steve Young, Reggie White, and Gary Zimmerman).
I say 2013 is better than both of those because Travis Kelce might be a Hall of Famer, and there’s also DeAndre Hopkins who has five all pro teams on his resume, and while not Hall of Famers, Cordarelle Patterson and Tyrann Mathieu also have three or more first team all pro selections in their careers.
Collectively I agree that 2013 is better, I just wanted to say that Woodson needs to get some respect put on his name
@@sportsnstuff5557 Its annoying how lesser Safeties than Woodson are in the Hall; also Jimmy Smith has a chance eventually
Man Jimmy Johnson was a draft genius before going to the Dolphins
@@sportsnstuff5557 Darren Woodson was a very good safety, certainly overlooked, and deserved to make it to Canton sooner than he will.
You make great content!
Cut it out before i smack you
I always love the mic drop at the end of KTO's videos
Actually, 1992 might be worse. That draft class has 0 HOF, 0 MVPs, and 0 OPOYs and DPOYs.
Also: Notice how 3 of the 1st 6 ended up in Seattle?
Lane Johnson is a future HoFer. Watch him against the best pass rushers. He didn't just consistently keep them in check; he owned them.
Also Tyrann Maitheu was also in that draft but didnt go undrafted
The Chiefs had a pretty solid 2013 draft. Eric Fisher was a solid LT for years, Knile Davis was decent, Mike Catapano was a solid role player, Eric Kush was an OK Center, and I hear that Travis Kelce guy is a pretty good player.
Saying Travis Kelce is just pretty good is a massive understatement. He’s one of the greatest tight ends of all time. He helped end the Chiefs 50 year drought, he holds the record for most consecutive 1000 yard seasons by a tight end, he almost became the first tight end to lead the league in receiving yards, holds the record for most receiving yards in a season by a tight end, has the record for most touchdowns by a tight end in the postseason, and won two Super Bowls in a span of four years.
@@jacksonconley5117I think he was joking, we all know that Travis Kelce arguably the best player at his position
@@jacksonconley5117it's called sarcasm
@@jacksonconley5117but look at the era he was drafted. At the end of OG NFL and into the current. Right time right place
@@jacksonconley5117 I am a Chiefs fan. My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek.
Love how you drop a bomb at the end of your videos with that song playing. Like you dropped the mic and walked off stage.
Lane Johnson, Philly loves the man.
3 of the 4 top draft picks was offensive lineman. The least glamorous position.
That might never happen again.
The right combination of good not great players forreal busts and injury what ifs
Thank you for telling the truth about this draft class
Bro my jaw literally hit the floor I have grew up watching him and living in the same city as KTO is crazy.
KTOOOOOOOOO!!! Thanks for another one. Man that 2013 draft was rooouuuuggghh. I remember many of those names, forgot and now know where they went or are. Props to Thielen. I didn't know he went completely undrafted. Diamonds in the rough.
Geno Smith is probably the only player from that draft class that is still in the league. It took him 10 years to finally make pro bowl. What a weird draft.
This video was world class, saw J&D Productions did similar video yesterday but this is much better!
Bro always posts bangers. He. Does. Not. Miss.
Mel Kiper probably had that take on Luke “Joke”el😂😂
This is the only top ten where I’ve seen them all be 23! Crazy!
5:25 that’s a fresh cut right there
As a Vikings fan, we're all going to miss Adam Thielen
The Kings did it!!! Another great video, KTO.
And that means the longest big four playoff drought now belongs to the New York Jets.
Usually when I see a guard or tackle go top 5 I’m thinking all pro potential they rarely bust
One of my favorite moments about Lane Johnson other than being a Solid RT, was when Travis Kelce said "Lane Johnson can't lay off the Juice" 😂. Go Birds!
Never knew you were a fellow 916er 👀🤟🏻
How you rate an o-lineman. Like a kicker if you don't notice him he's doing a great if you can forget he's on the field. The offense was top in the league because maholms could get the time to throw. I feel so disgusting building up a chip but he was a great at his position.
Lane Johnson is an absolute stud
2013's first round worked out in Dallas. We got an All-Pro center who would be a Hall of Famer if he didn't get Guillain-Barre syndrome. He luckily survived, and even played a return season before retiring. We love Travis "Fredbeard" Fredrick here in Dallas. I hope he's healthy and happy in retirement. 🎉🎉🎉
The Dolphins also traded up from 12 to 3 to pick Dion Jordan, terrible time for them
The craziest thing about this video is the fact that Thielen has been in the league for 10 years?
Funny The pats traded out of the 1st round but ended up with like 3 different 1st round players from this draft. Mingo, Cooper and Patterson. But they got Jamie Collins, Logan Ryan and Duron Harmon all three starters for them.
5:20 dont have that haircut if you dont want to get random drug tests.
2013 was a weird year for sports drafts. It feels like the NHL was the only major league that had a decent one that year
Baseball had a couple good players in the first round that year. Tim Anderson, Kris Bryant, and Aaron Judge (who was a supplemental pick).
The saving grace of the 2013 NBA draft was Giannis. Victor Oladipo, CJ McCollum and Rudy Gobert are also good players.
@@Tommy_WimmerI mean you had a couple fringe stars like Rudy gobert oladipo and cj McCollum but yeah
Really hoped Joeckel would pan out. Only player my generation from my city. He was really hyped up. Luckily Arlington got Myles Garrett.
The first round of 2013 was admittedly pretty thin, but there were still some good players selected in that draft if you could find them. Xavier Rhodes, DeAndre Hopkins, Cordarrelle Patterson, Travis Frederick, Zach Ertz, Darius Slay, Le’Veon Bell, Travis Kelce, Tyrann Mathieu, Keenan Allen among others. As a Packers fan, I have some fondness for this draft, as they selected David Bakhtiari and Micah Hyde in the later rounds.
Man I remember in 2017 Seattle when Dion Jordan had 4 sacks in 5 games and we were all hyped about him a classic Pete Carroll reclamation project then he busted in 2018
J&D Productions just made a 2013 draft class video 🤔 interesting timing
Notable players from the 2013 draft class: (not including linemen & special teams)
Xavier Rhodes (pick 25)
Deandre Hopkins (pick 27)
Cordarrelle Paterson (pick 29)
Zach Ertz (pick 35)
Darius slay (pick 36)
Geno smith (pick 39)
Le’veon Bell (pick 48)
Travis Kelce (pick 63)
Tyrann Mathieu (pick 69)
Keenan Allen (pick 76)
Micah Hyde (pick 159)
Jordan Poyer (pick 159)
Undrafted players:
Cj Anderson
Adam Thielen
Aj Bouye
Fish was a big part of the Chiefs LIV win, and his ACL tear in the AFC Championship game the next year doomed them in LV. KC also got Kelce later on in that draft.
That last picture was actually Chris Long and not Lane. But nice video bro so glad we got Lane and not anyone else 😅🦅
I remember being so hyped about the Mingo pick.
Great video KTO.
Brandon Graham Tore his Achilles only to come back the next year and get 11 sacks as a 34 year old and he didn’t win Comeback Player of the year. Absolutely stunning
Very unusually, 2013 was not a great draft year for both the NFL *and* NBA.
Good to know there is at least one guy on youtube from the Sac region. I coach HS football at Folsom.
KTO uploads, i watch. im a simple man
11:14 I was in the stands of the preseason game, right in front of Jonathan Cooper, when he broke his leg. Damn shame he couldn’t stay healthy and have a long career in the league.