3:30 Must have been difficult, landing at an unfamiliar airport in those circumstances. ATC could have given more specific directions to avoid their having missed the parking spot: those minutes could have been critical.
Good job on BA operations for managing to sort the passengers with that handy available aircraft, hopefully they were all understanding about the situation.
It is a bit odd. Might have been faster to park where they were, bring the stairs and have the ambulance drive across the tarmac instead of running through a terminal. But when I mentioned this in another channel, many people said taxiing in circles was better.
The pilot was supposed to contact the de-ice frequency for parking instructions (presumably somewhere right there on the pad) once he turned onto J...but he inadvertently turned left onto H. The graphic showed him still up by the de-icing pad, but he said he was nearly to G already, so they had him double back around. It does seem like they could have brought the stairs and an ambulance to him instead to save time, but Idk how wide the taxiways are in that spot.
I’m surprised that although the crew made an error with missing parking assignment that ATF made them go around and come back to original spot costing more time. Wouldn’t be important to get the incapacitated Captain off and get medical care ? I mean how busy can St John’s be late at night?
@3.20. no, he was told turn right on 'juliet and hotel'. Badly worded instructions by tower. Pilot thought he was to turn right on both juliet and hotel.
N.B. @3.20. Pilot was told turn right on 'juliet and hotel'. Badly worded instructions by tower. Pilot thought he was to turn right on both juliet and hotel. Not pilot's fault here.
Good news for the passengers most pilots flew planes alone in their careers so no big deal being alone again. Plus the planes do not require two people physically manipulating controls to fly. It is basically a safety regulation for times like this.
Bellow 10 000 feet there are a lot going on inside the flight deck. The pilot flying will focus on flying the aircraft, and the pilot monitoring will be on the radio, programing the fmc for the aircraft performance based on the weather conditions the weight of the aircraft and the runway, setting up the autopilot, and following the restrictions and rules of the approach chart, and setting up the flaps based on the conditions. Definitely not recommended for 1 pilot only.
Surprised that BA didn't rush another set of pilots (instead of another plane) up there from JFH, refueled the plane an carried on from there. Seems hugely costly the way they did it. Any knowledgeable insight by industry insiders?
Swiss did exactly the same a few years ago, when one of their B777 aircraft got stranded in the Arctic (in Iqaluit) - they send an aircraft up from New York (and cancelled a regular flight therefore) to pick up the passengers. The point is - you need a suitable aircraft, you need a full crew (pilots *and* cabin) and you need a fresh crew which has valid duty time to perform the flight with the stranded passengers. And you need a replacement aircraft, e.g. an unused spare aircraft (sometimes available at the home base), or an aircraft where you book passengers easily on other flights - New York would be a prime candidate with multiple other daily options to New York. If you just fly in another aircraft, you need to scramble crew and airplane, get the flight ready (all multiple hours). By the time the aircraft lands, the crew duty time has expired, so return to home best case the next day, which means two days in hotels for the passengers, hotels which might not be available. Getting an aircraft up from New York is way more efficient. (Plane available within hours, duty time not expired, passengers don't need to go to hotels).
So, I'm assuming this was an emergency aircraft. Single pilot landing a 777 at an unfamiliar airport that he was not prepared for. Why did they have him back taxi, changing frequencies, as well as trying to get him to move to a different pad? That was ridiculous. Stop the aircraft on the runway, get emergency personnel onboard, remove the pilot that's incapacitated, then tow the aircraft.
OK, now wait a minute here; You have a medical emergency on board and they tell you to turn into the deice pad. I would TELL THEM that I was stopping on the taxiway after landing and they had better have the damn stairs and ambulance ready! Hello? I do not know went wrong here, how bad it actually was. And I don't know if 777's have steering tillers on each side of the cockpit. If the Captain in the left seat is the problem and there is no tiller on the right, then they need to pull him out of the seat and set him on the ground so that the first officer can then occupy the left seat and taxi the airplane after landing. The right seat, where the FO sits, has a limited 10 degrees of steering available with the rudder pedals; You CANNOT make a 90 degree turn from the right seat, even with brakes, pedal steering, and differential power, right up to takeoff thrust. It won't work. I suspect the first officer had some sort of problem; There goes his medical~
Lol could be food poisoning or norovirus. That'll have you uncontrollably leaking out of holes that you don't want leaking. As mentioned before, BA policy requires three flight crew on transatlantic flights.
Drive in a circle because you were 20 yds past where we wanted you to go. Oh and thank goodness the passengers got home quick. Captain incapacitated, meh, who cares what happened to him
And to think some countries want to push single pilot commerical flighs...
3:30 Must have been difficult, landing at an unfamiliar airport in those circumstances. ATC could have given more specific directions to avoid their having missed the parking spot: those minutes could have been critical.
Any word on the condition of the incapacitated pilot?
Incapacitated
@@mango7862 Thanks, very helpful and enlightening.
Good job on BA operations for managing to sort the passengers with that handy available aircraft, hopefully they were all understanding about the situation.
@OH-te6wrThey must have a full flight crew, properly trained.
So correct me if I'm wrong, but the ATC making this guy do circles on the ground during an emergency is odd no?
It is a bit odd. Might have been faster to park where they were, bring the stairs and have the ambulance drive across the tarmac instead of running through a terminal. But when I mentioned this in another channel, many people said taxiing in circles was better.
Yes, Atc appears to be unaware or has forgotten it's a medical emergency. The pilot could have been more assertive though.
The pilot made a mistake, he went past where he was supposed to so ATC had to guide him back around.
The pilot was supposed to contact the de-ice frequency for parking instructions (presumably somewhere right there on the pad) once he turned onto J...but he inadvertently turned left onto H. The graphic showed him still up by the de-icing pad, but he said he was nearly to G already, so they had him double back around. It does seem like they could have brought the stairs and an ambulance to him instead to save time, but Idk how wide the taxiways are in that spot.
I think ATC assumed the pilot was familiar with the layout; didn’t give clear enough directions.
“Can we maintain high speed…?” Oh dear, that sounds very worrying. I hope the pilot recovered?
Passengers were rescued. Bad choice of words. Passengers boarded another BA 777, and continued their journey.
I’m surprised that although the crew made an error with missing parking assignment that ATF made them go around and come back to original spot costing more time. Wouldn’t be important to get the incapacitated Captain off and get medical care ? I mean how busy can St John’s be late at night?
@3.20. no, he was told turn right on 'juliet and hotel'. Badly worded instructions by tower. Pilot thought he was to turn right on both juliet and hotel.
N.B. @3.20. Pilot was told turn right on 'juliet and hotel'. Badly worded instructions by tower. Pilot thought he was to turn right on both juliet and hotel. Not pilot's fault here.
Good news for the passengers most pilots flew planes alone in their careers so no big deal being alone again. Plus the planes do not require two people physically manipulating controls to fly. It is basically a safety regulation for times like this.
As far as I know, British Airways requires 3 pilots on board for trans atlantic flights - so there should be still 2 pilots on duty.
Bellow 10 000 feet there are a lot going on inside the flight deck. The pilot flying will focus on flying the aircraft, and the pilot monitoring will be on the radio, programing the fmc for the aircraft performance based on the weather conditions the weight of the aircraft and the runway, setting up the autopilot, and following the restrictions and rules of the approach chart, and setting up the flaps based on the conditions.
Definitely not recommended for 1 pilot only.
“Over the Atlantic”, was it a trans Atlantic flight? I thought those flights required more than 2 pilots on board for rest rotation. 🤔
@@marlinweekley51 Due to the description below the video "A British Airways Boeing 777-200ER flying from New York-JFK to London-Gatwick (LGW) ...".
Increase of workload though..
They ok?
That was my question. Also, given an emergency, why did they make them go around again on the tarmac?
@@pgbrandonThe pilots goofed and missed their parking spot the first time through.
Is RW 11 reciprocal of RW 29?
Add 18.
How the hell did you understand that voice with static noise Jesus
Oh for goodness sake, as if ATC could have not been a bit more helpful!. BRAVO the Pilot !! Well done sir !!
Surprised that BA didn't rush another set of pilots (instead of another plane) up there from JFH, refueled the plane an carried on from there. Seems hugely costly the way they did it. Any knowledgeable insight by industry insiders?
Swiss did exactly the same a few years ago, when one of their B777 aircraft got stranded in the Arctic (in Iqaluit) - they send an aircraft up from New York (and cancelled a regular flight therefore) to pick up the passengers. The point is - you need a suitable aircraft, you need a full crew (pilots *and* cabin) and you need a fresh crew which has valid duty time to perform the flight with the stranded passengers. And you need a replacement aircraft, e.g. an unused spare aircraft (sometimes available at the home base), or an aircraft where you book passengers easily on other flights - New York would be a prime candidate with multiple other daily options to New York. If you just fly in another aircraft, you need to scramble crew and airplane, get the flight ready (all multiple hours). By the time the aircraft lands, the crew duty time has expired, so return to home best case the next day, which means two days in hotels for the passengers, hotels which might not be available. Getting an aircraft up from New York is way more efficient. (Plane available within hours, duty time not expired, passengers don't need to go to hotels).
So, I'm assuming this was an emergency aircraft. Single pilot landing a 777 at an unfamiliar airport that he was not prepared for. Why did they have him back taxi, changing frequencies, as well as trying to get him to move to a different pad? That was ridiculous. Stop the aircraft on the runway, get emergency personnel onboard, remove the pilot that's incapacitated, then tow the aircraft.
There we see why there is a pilot and a co pilot, it's too much for one to have to fly the plane and manage the communications.
when you eat taco bell before the flight...........
Was his copilot captain obvious?
OK, now wait a minute here; You have a medical emergency on board and they tell you to turn into the deice pad. I would TELL THEM that I was stopping on the taxiway after landing and they had better have the damn stairs and ambulance ready! Hello?
I do not know went wrong here, how bad it actually was. And I don't know if 777's have steering tillers on each side of the cockpit. If the Captain in the left seat is the problem and there is no tiller on the right, then they need to pull him out of the seat and set him on the ground so that the first officer can then occupy the left seat and taxi the airplane after landing. The right seat, where the FO sits, has a limited 10 degrees of steering available with the rudder pedals; You CANNOT make a 90 degree turn from the right seat, even with brakes, pedal steering, and differential power, right up to takeoff thrust. It won't work. I suspect the first officer had some sort of problem;
There goes his medical~
KAREN ALERT!
Lol could be food poisoning or norovirus. That'll have you uncontrollably leaking out of holes that you don't want leaking. As mentioned before, BA policy requires three flight crew on transatlantic flights.
Agree I did a trans Atlantic this week on Friday night and they mention the three pilots.
You got me until you said up to Take-off thrust...
@@mstewie9718 How's the weather in Russia this morning Sergei?
Drive in a circle because you were 20 yds past where we wanted you to go. Oh and thank goodness the passengers got home quick. Captain incapacitated, meh, who cares what happened to him
Note to self………..Never get on a airplane with a single pilot if they took the you know what.
I would bet there was a 3 person flight crew .
I haven't taken the you know what, Canada seems unnecessarily strict on that particular issue.
Crap audio.
Receiver limitations. Nothing anyone can do about it.
Thank you Mr Pfizer
My bet is another C19 vaccine injury.