Brandon Sanderson talks Tolkien, Fantasy, & Potential Cosmere Adaptations!
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2024
- At Dragonsteel Nexus, I had the chance to sit down with author @BrandSanderson to chat about the works of J.R.R. Tolkien, the Fantasy genre, and his most important thing for a potential Cosmere film adaptation!
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Sanderson is a true nerd in all the right ways which really came across in this interview. This is a great crossover, appreciate the content and hope to get more in the future.
Interview? I feel like that was more like a masterclass monologue 😂
@@HumbleGnome He’s a lecturer in name and in spirit.
Well this is very cool and utterly unexpected.
Love how Brando Sando is showing up on all of my youtube fantasy channels across all franchises
His media literacy is a me of his best talents as far as the business of writing goes. He’s pretty much the greatest fantasy influencer alive.
What are some other fantasy he is showing up on? So I can go check them out, I love hearing him talk shop about fantasy.
Same. Just seeing the number of random people I know about that were at Dragonsteel Nexus is astonishing.
A proper Mistborn adaption would be so sick. Getting to see the city and action scenes as described in the books would be a treat.
I literally just heard the name Brandon Sanderson for the very first time 2 days ago. Started reading one of his books and this video drops. 🤯 crazy! And this interview is awesome. Now I’m really excited to read his stuff just because of his passion for the genre and Tolkien.
You're in for a good time!
what did you start with?
Strap in!
Get ready to read everything! Once you start, there’s no going back 😅
I also just started! I started with the way of kings, but now I took a break and am reading Mistborn!
It's been great seeing your quick descent into Sanderfanaticism. Makes me so proud!
This instantly turned my day into a good day. Please do this again!
What a beautiful collab! Listening to way of kings right now but paused it to listen to this!
Never read his books or seen him before but wow this guy is awesome! Great Interview Matt
He’s a very cool guy, makes reading his books all the better
Very cool interview!!!! Would love more of this!
My favorite fantasy worlds collide… thanks for doing this!
I'm still standing by my Nerdonalsium channel suggestion 😅. I love seeing two of my favorites (author/creator) coming together like this. It's the cross-over episode I never knew I needed.
Yoooooooo! This was unexpected but welcome!
Dude, when he mentioned this channel a few days ago I nerded tf out. I'm a long time follower of yours and a relatively new fan of Sanderson. I never thought the twain would meet, but here we are. I'm around 70% through Wind and Truth and my jaw is consistently dropped. Branderson is an astonishing writer and it's great that he seems to be mainstream now.
R.I.P - David Weatherley [Barliman Butterbur]
Wow i just started reading The Way of Kings last week and you drop this. Ive become a big fan of Brandon pretty fast! Great Video!
Before selecting a director, Brandon should develop a quiz to make sure they are truly nerds of his material.
I’ve been eagerly anticipating this since you announced it! This was an absolute BLAST to watch, wish it could have been hours longer! Also I absolutely love that you made sure to add 16:17 in and fact check 😂
Brandon looks like he enjoys the fantasy world he lives in, which is rare.
This made my morning. Love watching ur content, and to add Sanderson to it ... pure magic ! :)
I love this channel and I love Sanderson. Brilliant collaboration.
Two beautiful human beings, hope this is the start of some more Sanderson content 👀
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Yes please!
16:47 is when they start talking about adaptation to Brandon's works
At 8:20, did he just hint that Guy Gavriel Kay might had done some of the writing for Silmarillion? Like, actually coming up with some material on the book? Or what did Brandon Sanderson do for the Wheel of Time?
I'm pretty sure GGK worked together with Christopher (the son) on building the Silmarillion from the mass of unorganized manuscripts. As far as I know he didn't write anything himself
Edit: but since he's (as brandon also said) very secretive about it, it could be possible that he wrote some things in there
To give context on what Brandon did for the Wheel of Time, Robert Jordan (the original author) passed away right before writing the last book. Brandon took his notes (which were actually only a few paragraphs) and finished the series out.
just reading one of his books and the silmarillion should give you the answer to that. an absolutely enormous gulf in writing quality and iq level.
I am always pleasantly surprised to hear how many other people first read The Hobbit at age 9 as I did. Sharing this distinction with Brandon Sanderson is rather cool! I just finished this year's re-read of the 14 books of Wheel of Time plus New Spring prequel not even a week ago. I am just starting another re-read of Sword of Shannara.
The news at 19:30 got a big "Ooo-ooooooooh!!" out of me!
Spielberg doing Old Man's War?!
Awesome!
Matt we need a seperate channel for Sanderson content as well !!
I love Sanderson's books and on top of that he is very interesting in his talks/interviews. Thanks!
When the universe gives coincidences!! I literally started reading The stormlight archives. What are the odds! Lol
Brandon Sanderson is my favorite author! I’ve read nearly all his Cosmere books, just finishing up Stormlight and then the secret projects. Great interview
7:33 That's not true though.... LOTR is now considered pure second world fantasy, but Tolkien considered it to be set in earth's mythical past no different to how Conan the Barbarian was. Arguably he birthed second world fantasy by being misunderstood which is funny
Please lets see mistborn on the screen. Im always recommending this series.
this is amazing!! i didnt expect these two together !!!
YES!!! I just got in to Sanderson and have been binging his videos. Perfect timing!!!
Absolutely amazing interview kudos!
Nice, to see this video out finally
Ahhhhhhhhh! 🎉🎉🎉 This is awesome!
Very fun! I rarely watch his podcast with Dan Wells so the clip for Rings of Power was new to me and hilarious.
Loved it. More cosmere content please!
Awesome interview guys!!! Enjoyed it!
oh wow, right here in town!
@nerdoftherings are you enjoying our mountain views?
Fantastic Interview! ❤️❤️❤️
Great interview!! I'm hoping to make it to either the next Dragonsteel Nexus or the one after that.
Great episode!
Brandon thanking him for being on his own channel is a power move. 😂
23:15
Huh
He says “I appreciate coming on the channel.” As in he appreciates being a guest on my channel.
2 of my favorite people talking yes please
This is the nerdiest segment that I have ever seen. Good job!!
I'm fixing to start reading Mistborn in a month or so. Fantasy is great
Seeing these wonderful illustrations makes me want a Animated series
Awesome. Thanks for this.
Sanderson is a great writer. Sometimes his writing feels a little too "young adult" for me but his books are all objectively top tier!
awesome that you got to go. Didn't know that you were a cosmere fan, but makes sense. Think you are both so great.
16:45 I really hope that if a cinematic adaptation of the Cosmere is done some day it will be animated films in a really artsy style, similar to the illustrations in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter. I feel like that would work so much better than a "live action" adaption, which would necessarily have to be 90% CGI anyway considering the source material.
Im so down for you making videos on the cosmere!!!
I did *not* know Spielberg is doing Old Man's War. This is awesome news!
I don't want a cinematic adaptation. But I know it will happen. And it will be good to introduce people to the cosmere.
I know of him and read the WOT that he finished but I have never read his others and I don't know why! Just bought all of Mistborn and I am sure I will binge the rest. So much fun watching someone so known geek out about LOTR!
What a guy ❤️
Wow I love the nerdy talk about fantasy history and themes and systems, even want to hear more!
I would like to see another video on angmar because I want to know more about it. Like what did there flags look like. And what did Carn Dûm look like as described in the book
I have to go with Helms Deep for best setting in LOTR.
The magic is returning sounds much like the "clerical powers" are returning theme in Dragonlance as well. In a way, gandalf of course represents a higher class of beings. The theme of a spiritual guide goes through all myths.
I thought I was the only one who watched repeatedly Brandon’s reaction to Dan’s Rings of Power score 😂😂😂
Someone needs to ask Brandon about the influence of Plato on his writing cuz reading Stormlight, it seems like he was building it around the Republic, Euthyphro, and Gorgias.
Hes like a redditor who is actually normal, not pretentious, and seems like a genuinely good passionate dude. I am halfway through The Way of Kings and love it so far.
Dr. Clyde Kilby from Wheaton College also met with Tolkien quite a number of times to help compile his material for The Silmarillion.
Honestly Sanderson's example of the One Ring being a hard magic system is one I had never thought about before. I always think of LotR as a great example of a soft magic, but from a narrative perspective it really is a good simple example.
I loved The Silmarillion! I was mad that I let every one hype me out of reading it for so long. It's throughly enjoyable, don't listen to the haters 😅
yoooo i would love to see some cosmere content on here 👀
"It makes a good sound bite"
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I swear his books got me through the last 3 years
Man he is good
I have no idea but I feel that if it's mentioned in the books and described, it has to be developed that way BUT if it's mentioned in the books and 'not described', they can do what they will. The reason why we have things like Peter Jackson's epic films. Rings of Power and now The War of the Rohirrim.
This is a very interesting interview. But hey, I'm a curmudgeon! As a professional writer Brian Sanderson definitely knows a lot about fantasy in its various genres. However, What Sanderson calls "Secondary World" fantasy should perhaps better be called "Alternative World" fantasy. I think he is misapplying and misunderstanding the notion of "Secondary World" in regards to Tolkien. I do believe that Tolkien's framing device of the Red Book of Westmarch, and many other Tolkien references besides, point to the fact that JRRT did NOT imagine Middle-earth was any other earth than this one we are standing on. Tolkien's stories are supposed to have taken place in an imaginary, legendary, mythical past which was pretty much all destroyed a few thousand years or so before the Sumerians and Egyptians. Some people don't like this because it just doesn't square with the facts of ancient prehistory or even plate tectonics. For me that's not a problem. We can enter into what Tolkien called "Secondary Belief" and we IMAGINE a big "What if?" Of course we go on actually believing in the primary world in which we know that tLotR never really happened. But we ENJOY an imaginary "world" in which Tolkien's Legendarium is the MYTHIC past of our real world. At the same time we imagine that the present world might contain a few dwindled hobbits and invisible faded Elves which are often now misunderstood as fairies and such. "Secondary World" does NOT mean that the story takes place on a "non-Earth" or in an Alternative Universe. The phrase "Secondary World" refers to the simple fact that what we see in our minds while reading tLotR is something that exists only in our imaginations. That's what makes it "Secondary". And it doesn't matter if it's Our World + "magic", or Another World + "magic". Either way what we are imagining and believing in (secondarily) isn't "real" or "primary". It's a "Secondary World" because it isn't the "Primary World" or the "real world" as we normally call it. I think these ideas can be understood by reading Tolkien's essay "On Fairy Stories" and also by listening to the interviews with Christopher Tolkien which are available on UA-cam. It seems to me that actually "Secondary World" applies to all fantasy of all genres, and maybe even to all fiction in a sense.
this was great
I DON'T THINK THIS IS A WIND & TRUTH SPOILER, BUT IF YOU ARE SENSITIVE TO CHARACTER QUOTE SPOILERS DON'T READ!
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Ok idk if anyone else picked up on this, but I'm pretty sure that Brandon makes a nod to Tolkien at the very very end of chapter 99 in W&T. Dalinar's line (won't spoil it here) is VERY similar to Samwise's line: "Come, Mr. Frodo! I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!"
If this was in fact an intentional nod then, WOW! What a cool moment.
I love this stuff so much lol 😂
I wish you could have asked him if Nightblood was inspired by Gurthang! Or Stormbringer
Funny he says Tolkien is only secondary world, when he used that term, but he very much made the story also, turn into a our world. Lol. In fact his original intellectual project was to make a mythology for britain, which he thought lacked an interesting complex mythology, and he wanted other people to participate in it, like a real mythology. The hobbit grew out of a bandtime story for his kids which he related to the older myths and which in the Lord of the rings very much welded the worlds together. But originally what became the Silmarillion was his mythopoeic construction in earnest. He says it in many places, but like he says "Hobbits needs explanation now," and all this is a translation of the red book, from an earlier world or time.
Huge W
Should I start reading Sanderson?🤔 huge Tolkien fan here but I’ve never gotten into Sanderson books….maybe I’ll try it
Check one of his books out from the library to see if you like him. He's got a video on his channel on what to read as your first Sanderson book based on what sort of things you like!
Good interview and I'm sorry that my comment is unrelated. Can't you use your NOTR powers and contacts to get in contact with the great Phil Dragash to make his audiobook version of The Silmarillion??!! That would be AMAZING! I don't get Brandon saying that its so hard to read. It's a masterpiece that to me, elevated Tolkien from extremely talented to absolutely genius.
What a great get.
Lets gooo
He needs to license some animated or comic adaptations.
oh wow noice!!!!
Stormlight would be insanely difficult to adapt into live action. Animation makes a lot more sense and is 10x more doable.
So basically puting on One Ring is like entering Shadesmar... 🤔
Free the Silmarillion!!! Christopher Tolkien won't let it be taken to other media...
Lord of the rings is one of the best movies in all time and theirs no sxx no bad words no gore. 👏👏👍
Brandon's appearance reminds me of Shad from Shadiversity. Sadly, Brandon does not have an Australian accent.
I read a book from Brandon Sanderson, and in it, he says he hates librarians(as a joke )(but maybe not)
Peter Jackson's background in horror films was absolutely key in adding to the gravitas of the Witch King, Black Riders, Minas Morgul, Shelob. That was huge.
Where is the state of the Sanderson?
Tolkien is giving us likely another 4 ages of man from Greek myth.
a shame he seemed to learn nothing from Tolkien, that being actually taking the time to put effort into your writing instead of just spamming out a story.
Longest answer ever for When Did You 1st Discover Tolkien 😅
Umm ok hello
the only bad thing he needs to work on as a writer is the INFO dumping he does in his books
Why, oh why didn’t you buy Evermore?