Take your time Nate. Loved this video. I think this might be a banger series bro. Fallout and Skyrim will only last as long as we live. Human history is forever. Peace out homie. ✌️
I can’t remember who made the video, but another content creator purposed that Columbus may have actually been a Jew and sailed to India to escape persecution and and gain some religious freedom. Which even if it total nonsense I think it would be extra cool if it were true. He sailed to “India to get spices, trade, etc… but secretly wanted to sail to this fabled land mass nobody has ever reached. Then he makes the journey and then calls back home saying “I totally found those Indians we were talking about, definitely in India right now” the. Eventually got called out by the queen and king and had to play dumb. “ oh shit you’re right!! This isn’t India, but I’m still gunna call these people Indians”
Literally playing Fallout as I listen to this , I checked out when he started saying tobacco mary jane and coke are American , this comment made my day
Please, please, PLEASE do more of these! I've enjoyed your work on Fallout and Skyrim, but actual historical mysteries like these are even more amazing. I want more!
Thanks for all the supportive feedback! This video is just a bit of a side project I’ve been working on in spare time for awhile to hold yall over for the next Fallout video! Here are some of the cited papers - Balbanova's Toxicology of Egyptian Mummies - link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01140178 Andres Nerlich's Report on an Egyptian Mummy - pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8548128/ Heiko Prümers' Lidar Study on Amazonian Settlements - www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04780-4
From Minecraft trolls to Skyrim to fallout to now history. You are indeed a scribe. I enjoyed this video and glad you came so far in youtube. I remember watching you consistently when you had 70k subs and saw your quality only increasing.
Please stick to fallout, we don't really need a new historical mystery channel. Edit: I changed my mind. We need more epicnate right now fallout or no. But please don't leave fallout lore behind
Nate, I am doing part of my PhD in Egyptology about the toxicology of the egyptian mummies and i am currently writing a paper about it for an upcoming scientific convention in my field. I must say that I was truly impressed with how accurate and how much information you managed to post in just little over 7 minutes. I found your research interested and think that you have a knack for this.
Have you considered that Egyptians in the early 19th century were creating mummies from Modern people to sell because they were such a hot commodity and they had run out of the ancient ones?
My esteemed audience, I have made a horrific mistake. Upon rereading Gonzalo Fernandez de Oviedo's account of the History of the Indies, I mistook which story he endorsed. You see, Gonzalo opens his work by expressing his own belief in the idea that Christoper Columbus had previous knowledge of the location of the Indies and quickly thereafter goes on to describe the story we mention in the video, which I'll now quote. "There is a story that a caravel sailing from Spain to England with a cargo of merchandise and provisions, wines and other goods, not to be found in England and generally sent there from Spain, was overwhelmed by such violent contrary winds that it was forced to run west for many days, in the course of which it sighted one or more of the Indies. A landing was made on one of these islands and naked people were seen like those found here today. When the winds, which had brought them here against their will, died down, they took aboard water and wood and sailed back on to their previous course. The story goes on to say that as the greater part of the ship's cargo consisted of food and wine the crew had sufficient to keep them alive on this long and arduous voyage and to make the return passage, meeting with favourable weather. They reached Europe safely and made for Portugal. The voyage had been extremely long and dangerous and they had all the time been greatly afraid. Moreover, though the winds had driven them swiftly on their course, the journey there and back had lasted four or five months, or possibly even more. In the course of that time almost all the ship's crew died. The only men to land in Portugal were the pilot and three or four of the sailors, and all these were so ill that they also died a short time after their arrival. The story goes that this pilot was a close friend of Christopher Columbus and had some knowledge of the quadrant, and that he marked the position of this land he had discovered. He is said to have given this information very privately to Columbus, asking him to make a map and place upon it this land which he had seen. Columbus is said to have welcomed him into his house as a friend and got him medical treatment, for by now he was very sick. Nevertheless he died like the others; thus Columbus remained with sole knowledge of these islands, and this he kept to himself." However, Oviedo later goes on to explain that while this story is popular, he does not himself necessarily buy into it, borrwing a quote from St. Augustine 'When facts are obscure, better to doubt what we do not know". In the next chapter however, Oviedo relates the story he *actually* endorses regarding the supposed source of Christopher Colombus' knowledge of the Indies - "In the last chapter I gave a common story concerning the previous discovery of the Indies, Now I will set down my beliefs concerning Christopher Columbus's motives and the knowledge which emboldened him, as a man of some learn-ing, to undertake this great enterprise, so memorable to the men of his and future times. He rightly recognized that these lands had been forgotten, for he had found them described - and of this I am in no doubt at all - as one-time possessions of kings of Spain. I should like to quote Aristotle on this matter, On leaving the Straits of Gibraltar for the Atlantic ocean, he said, some Carthaginian merchants discovered a large island which had never been discovered before and was inhabited only by wild animals. It was therefore entirely wild and covered with large trees. It had great rivers on which ships could sail and was very fertile; everything that was planted there germinated and produced an abundant crop. This island was very remote, lying far off the coast of Africa at a distance of several days sailing. On reaching it, these Carthaginian merchants, inspired by the fertility of the soil and the mildness of the climate, began to settle and build farms and villages. On learning this the Carthaginians in their senate proclaimed under pain of death that thenceforth none should sail for this land and that all those who had been there should be put to death. For the fame of this island was so high that if any other nation or empire were to hear of it it would conquer it and thus become a very formidable enemy to Carthage and its liberties". Thus, Oviedo endorses a theory that Colombus, through his familiarity with the classics and Aristotle, was made aware of the Indies and an ancient relationship with Carthage. This is frankly, a much crazier idea than the former story about stranded ships and I would argue still reinforces the broader point being made in our section about Colombus - That being that many within Spain were themselves convinced that Colombus had some idea of the Indies' existence before his voyage - However this remains a glaring error that I should have picked up sooner. Part of the reason for my mistake was that this video was largely written in December of 2023 and was never really planned for publication. Ultimately, I decided to edit and publish in June of 2024 without as throughoughly reviewing this material as I should have. My apologies. To my knowledge, this is the only factual inaccuracy of the video.
Some additional things about the Gorilla story: The skins Hano was supposed have brought back were put up on public display and still visible 500 years later until Rome finally destroyed Carthage in 146 BC. Also note that the word Gorilla has its origin in whatever local language was spoken in that part of Africa in 600 BC. The modern population of the area came there somewhere later and so we no longer have any idea of what that original language was. This single word, Gorilla, is all that survives of it and its language family to this day and without the memory of Hano we would have no memory of it at all.
@@rephlaxno it’s not. Phoenician sailors circumnavigate Africa more than 3000 years ago at the behest of the Egyptians. They even recorded a volcano eruption that later was found to be accurate. Euros teach a very warped history. Probably out of some feeling of inadequacy due to euros living like animals when the rest of the world was building cities and making timeless art
@@rephlax not really, circumnavigation of Africa seems to have happened at least once as an account of a shipwreck "of Iberian origin" being found by romans on the red sea exists, so Carthaginians sailing past the Gulf of Guinea is not that far fetched, specially since a roman land expedition actually managed to reach lake Chad THROUGH THE DESERT. We really have a misconception of how big the ancient/classical world actually was. Roman sailors traded with India, romans and Greeks knew of the existence of China (the Greco Bactrian kingdom bordered China) and roman currency has been found as far north as Iceland. Hell, Sierra Leone and Brazil aren't even 2000 miles apart, it isn't that far fetched that some ancient sailor might've ended up in America by accident and their accounts of this accidental voyage to be relegated to ancient sea tales or some shit.
At first I was a bit worried about a game lore expert going into real history, especially "mysteries' because of how poorly that stuff is often handled on UA-cam. But I gave it a shot because I know from your game lore videos that you do extensive research for those and would almost always come to reasonable conclusions, even when they weren't the most exciting ones. I'm glad I did because you exceeded my expectations here; not only did you not go for the low-hanging fruit of conspiracy stuff, you actually discussed interesting things I hadn't heard about before in an even-handed manner. You clearly did a lot a lot of research, and much like with your lore videos, you didn't jump to the most spectacular conclusions and instead made well reasoned guesses. Guesses that you made sure to present as guesses and not settled fact, which is hugely important imo. Good work, and keep it up, I'd love to see you make more of these.
I’m curious because I don’t always dabble in historical UA-cam, but who else out there that you know of does good historical in depth and engaging videos like this?
@@commandercjwnot exactly in this same context but if your ever looking for some in depth views of historical battles look into “kings and generals” lots of long form content
this was a really, really fun change of pace. i love stuff like this but had never heard any of these stories. would love it if you did a side series with stuff like this!
As someone who's a fan of your channel and studies history, you did a pretty good job with this. I really appreciate how you seemed to do research beyond just reading a wikipedia article and promoting conspiracy theories about aliens. You actually presented the information very professionally while still being entertaining. I would honestly be up to seeing more content like this in addition to the video game stuff.
@@marhawkman303 Yeah he could've been more in depth and there were a few mistakes, but he actually did better than some channels who claim to do history as their main thing. He already seems to have a decent understanding of bias and how to analyze sources. With a little more work he could make a quality deep dive.
@@MasterTangerines Well, Fallout lore.. is fun because it mimics real-world historical documentation. A lot of key historical documents... were just some guy's journal that somehow survived despite EVERYTHING else he wrote being lost to history. In modern times we don't even know if the information is 100% accurate... just that it's the only thing aNYONE wrote documenting something.
Columbus: _"Hey, I want to sail across the ocean to find a bunch of potentially uninhibited land that has no known resources. Will you fund me?"_ Not exactly as good of a pitch as finding a shortcut for Eastern trade.
I just wanted to put in my opinion that I really enjoyed this! I feel like I don't know enough about real world history and the format you used for this was super fun and interesting!
The Columbos story is kind funny for me, I'm Brazilian, and we have been said that Brazil was discovered in 1500 but they had caravelas coming here for at least 30 years before that, there was a guy that spent 30 years with the natives learning their language to have negotiations with the Portuguese court, it said that Brazil was only "discovered" because others Europeans countries were getting really close to this so called "island" (the south american continent) and if Portugal don't claim fast, they could loose the land.
Yeah Portugal was known to travel and discover many lands before other European countries, and kept them a secret so they can trade with them without other nations getting involved
It could be Columbus wanted to open a trade route, and was reasonably sure that there were islands that he could resupply at. Allowing him to make what would be an impossible journey otherwise. As well as claim these islands for himself, taking full control of the trade route. Instead he found a seemingly endless continent that blocked all passage West, and made the best of it.
Columbus mission was to disrupt and make the Spanish expedition to India fail. He was a Portuguese spy and ended up a criminal and terrorist due to what he had done. There's no speculation anymore. It's all known facts.
They definitely knew *something* was there. The size of the earth has been calculated quite accurately since as early as ancient Greece, iirc. And if all that distance was all ocean, there would've been no way to create a trade route that treacherous
Columbus probably knew something was there, but he always believed it to be a part of Asia. Even when other explorers started to discover more of America and saw that it wasn't part of Asia Columbus kept insisting it WAS Asia for some reason.
Don't ever be worried about branching out and trying new games or topics outside of gaming to cover Nate. I mean I still enjoy Skyrim and Fallout vids don't get me wrong, but with Bethesda dropping the ball on Starfield and coming close to a TWENTY YEAR development cycle. we all knew you'd have to try some new things out. I enjoy how you cover things more than what you cover and I'm sure a lot of others do too. Good longform videos are harder and harder to come by so try what will make you happy. We'll ride right along with you.
Twenty year dev cycle? It's been 13 years since the last TES, but they've made and published 3 games since. That's far from 20 years (still unreasonably long imo, especially considering the quality of those games, but it still comes mostly down the fact that they've neglected TES in particular outside spin-offs).
@@TristenSarelvun That's because the dev cycle is for each IP not the entire company's catalog. They have barely started on the TES6, and just have to divert people to spend another year on Starfield, so it's not going to be at all surprising if the game releases are 17 or 18 years apart or more if things go badly.
He never called them Indians he called them, gente sin dios or people without god. Sin dios for shorthand. The English (later Americans) in their language made sin dios into Indians
20:55 even the Yucatan Peninsula holds rainforests so dense tat we are still discovering Pyramids by satellite; perhaps similar structures or civilizations in the vast, well-irrigated south American interior are not so different of an idea, and not nearly as outlandish as it may at first seem.
really really like how you talk about all this, its very well researched and your portrayal of each aspects of these theories and oddities is very balanced while staying logical and scientific. so many history mystery videos rely on fringe and conspiracy videos to be interesting without too much actual evidence behind it and you show how it can be done way way better while still being incredibly interesting. huge props
Absolutely love it! This is what i needed and didn't know it, lol. Make a series! Some ideas: - did julius caesar plan his own death? - king tut was dna tested and found to be a 99% match with modern Irish people (>2% match with modern Egyptian people) - the Carthaginians knew all about the new world, and prevented the greeks from leaving the Mediterranean. "The three parts of the world are Asia, Europa, and Africa. Besides these, there is a forth part of the world, which remains undiscovered to us" - Ptolemy the Geographer - who were the Sea Peoples? - did Cro Magnon come from Atlantis? - (forbidden) Chinese pyramids - pyramid found off the coast of the Azores (underwater). - Olmes heads look like Africans - Who were the Etruscans - the Irish have a legend that they were lead to Ireland from Egypt (or what they call "the land of the pyramids) by a Pharoahess
After all the sharing you’ve done for the Bethesda realm, I’m very glad to see you expanding instead of stopping. You’ve always been a favorite of mine for lore videos. I’m excited for something different Nate!
I've never seen any of this channel's gaming videos, I just clicked on this video cause it appeared on recommended. The good thing is, if the narrator didn't mention that this was a gaming channel, I could never tell.
38:32 that “river“ sounds like he might’ve been describing is the Gulfstream which is a powerful current that originates in the Gulf of Mexico and travels around Florida and up into the north Atlantic
Honestly, I would love to see more of this content. My brothers have always been huge history nerds, and they kind of dragged me into it as well, so this just feels like a gab session with them.
Another note on the Amazon is it’s also believed to be a Man Made Jungle. in essence the trees and plants were planted near VERY VERY ancient cities and stuff. but when they collapsed the trees just kept expanding and with no one to stop it. it quickly took over the very flat ground of the now. Amazon
@@magicpyroninjaIt does seem like when humans arrived it seems like the Amazon basin was very low quality soil. Swamplands not jungle. I am not sure the extent of it, nor its current standing in research. But it seems that humans totally terraformed the area to be more of a self substaining farm then anything else.
Hey Nate this was an interesting one. Loved that some of the mysteries are some obscure ones and less common ones! I would love to see more of this along with the videogames ones.
I remember watching a show about lost cities and it showed a part about lost cities in the Amazon rainforest. It showed a flyover taken from a plane over an area that was deforested, and onencan see a layout of a large city with mostly the foundations left showing. And that story in the Mansa Musa story sounds like it is describing the Amazon River.
@@RayvenTheNight unless you want your family to leave you for staring at a map for 1000 hours while laughing like a maniac while committing horrible atrocities, you don't want to know.
@@RayvenTheNight unless you want your family to leave you for staring at a map for 1000 hours while laughing like a maniac while committing horrible atrocities, you don't want to know.
@RayvenTheNight I am not liable for what will be of your life after you discover these types of games, but search "Europa Universallis 4". There is also "Crusader Kings," "Stellaris," and "victoria 2," all games developed by Paradox Interactive. They are difficult to get into, but they are the most addicting games I've ever played.
I was tentative about watching this but boy am I hooked! The Columbus story was illuminating, the Gorilla story was tantalizing, and it was all in your imitable style. More please!
Knowing that UA-camrs have to expand their content eventually, of all the ways you could have diverted from your usual content I think this is one of the best. I'd listen to hour long videos of this
Got one for you - mass dissaperences throughout history. From the Mary Celeste to Roanoke Colony. Whole groups of people vanishing without a trace without warning and what was left behind gave the impression that nothing was amiss. No signs of violence or attack or disease or whatever.
Thanks for the suggestions, Roanoke is definitely on my list! My long held suspicion is that the colonists were probably struggling to feed themselves an accepted some sort of integration with a local tribe, which then went poorly. I know John Smith testified that the chief of the Powhatan claimed knowledge of the colonists and responsibility for their fate, but I need to do another deep dive.
@@EpicNate think you can do a mysterious disappearance video of the Bermuda Triangle? The uss cyclops and the five missing Air Force pilots etc? As far as missing ships, a very possible reason is the Gulf Stream. A large and powerful current that can throw even the most seasoned pilot and navigator off course.
@@lazarusofdeath3123 Recently it has been found that since nobody likes sailing those water, the Bermuda Triangle is actually safer than most other shipping routes on Earth.
Please, please no. We actually do know what happened to a lot of these allegedly disappeared groups, and it hurts my wee historian heart to keep seeing the same nonsense over and over and over again, passed off as fact. I think Nate likes to stick to real mysteries, not mysteries that were solved at the time and only resurrected for money by Victorian-era shysters and their modern equivalent. Nate: suggestion: when you do your research, have a look at Simon Whistlers' Decoding the Unknown channel. If a "mystery" has been debunked, it's probably in this list somewhere.
The Bermuda triangle as an other commenter said is actually safer than most Waters when you take into account that it has some of the most traffic considering the fact that the Caribbean is a super popular cruise ship spot
Another theory i have about the egyptians having cocaine and tobacco is that it could be there were now lost plants that had nicotine and cocaine in them,or something extremely similar, like how eggplants have nicotine in them, dispite being found on the eastern side of the world
It is worth noting, there were Portuguese maps of some Caribbean islands before the 1490s. Not just a vague notation on older maps, but some decent maps. As mysterious as the Peri Riess map showing Antarctica under the ice sheet.
Video suggestions: 1. The Trypillia-culture from 5500 BC (the land of this culture was as densely populated as Mesopotamia with the Babylonian Empire at its peak over 2 000 years later) - why did the big cities have no defenses, why were they burned down? 2. When was Antarctica really discovered? (Terra Australis was a concept known to ancient people but there is also the tinfoil hat folk that claims things like that Arabs knew the shape of the continent *beneath* the ice already in the middle ages) 3. The origin of the Huns (why did they seem to have a slavic language, why did scholars believe they were Chinese, is there a connection between king Ruas and Rus?)
Origin of the Huns and Antarctica have been on the list haha!!!! Trypillia-culture is something I’ll dive into this weekend though, thank you for the suggestions!
Nate, please do more videos like this, I can't get enough of the way you explain and present stories and mysteries, and now with real history I won't be able to stop watching. Love it.
33:00 My theory for the Egyptian one is that there was a plant similar to cocaine in Egypt that has since gone extinct. Not the first plant to do this so it is very possible.
43:03 this was good video. Don't feel like you're pigeonholed into only doing fallout in Skyrim for your own mental health. Feel free to occasionally. Do your own side projects worse that happens. We don't like it. Oh well. Still going to get watched 😎
Not to discredit Columbus, but as a Norwegian, I was taught that Leiv Eiriksson discovered the Americas first. I suppose it is a bit controversial though 😅
Yeah he was here before Columbus. The vikings made it all the way into modern day Canada. But of course it was the natives that migrated from Asia to the Americas long before any one.
He technically did though it was a different region and if you consider green land part of the Americans it would of been his father Eric blood axe or the people who lived in that region long before the Inuit or Vikings also Columbus never claimed to of discovered a new land during his life and if Nate is to be believed others Spanish and Portuguese at least saw the land.
@@michaels5676 It was African in Rome also. U are uneducated and racist I can guarantee. It was mostly definitely Africans in North America check your history right. And I'm gonna like this comment also
About the mummies, there is also the hypothesis that they used tobacco and cocaine plants native to Egypt, but now extinct. Like cotton, which also grows in both Asia and the Americas
I know I'm a wee bit late as there's already another video like this, but please continue doing these obscure history mysteries! I like hearing about new rabbitholes to dive into.
There were several people that found the new land before Columbus. I don't know why he got credit. North America was named after Amerigo Vespucis ( not sure about the spelling of the last name ). Canada has ruins from Vikings that landed there 500 years before Columbus.
Well both americas where names after Amerigo but he got there after Colombus. However the Viking did indeed got there a few centuries before but never managed to settle for long nor warn the rest of the world about their finding
Yes everyone knows about the Vikings. But Columbus was the first European to establish direct continues links with the new world. Don’t try to diminish his achievements by playing some word game 😂
Yes others knew of the Americas before Columbus but he gets credit because his excursions opened the doors to European integration and colonialism. Global trade routes opened and isolated continents were rushed into modernity, connecting the old world wirh the new, on a massive scale, for the first time.
There is some dispute about whether North America was actually named after Amerigo. There's another theory that they were named after a Welsh man called Americ who is known to have arrived in America 40 years before Amerigo did.
I like this. A lot. Don’t let the low views discourage you, they’ll balance out eventually. I’m a history buff and hearing it in your format is awesome. Great work, Nate.
It's always good for a channel to expand its horizons and types of content. Even if it initially loses numbers, it gains a more wide-spread stable audience.
I'm an absolute sucker for history, let along obscure history and mystery. This is absolutely a jam and I fully encourage any more history related content 👍
Tbh man, maybe the fallout well has dried up, I’d absolutely love to see you over more stuff like this or even maybe other games like the Witcher series or dark souls (even if fromsoft game lore is done to death) or like I said, real world mysteries are the most intriguing!
This video didn't do as well as your others but the production and research is the same, and I absolutely loved it. I would really enjoy a few videos like this a year that dont just focus on bathesda, and I think many others would as well
The problem with the Columbus theory is that Columbus never believed he had found a new land mass. Until the day he died, he fervently proclaimed that he had been to India. While others suggested that it was a New World, it wasn't until Amerigo Vespucci that this was proven, which is why the New World got the name "America." So if Columbus thought he might be finding a new land, even if he thought he found Antillia, he probably wouldn't have argued so strongly that he found a route to India.
bro nice work honestly. It shows you've spent a lot of time reading. I've watched a lot of "history mysteries" and this is some of the best. Deeper cut stuff I haven't heard much about.
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fallout tv show video when (also it was nice to see you in other creators videos of philly)
Take your time Nate. Loved this video. I think this might be a banger series bro. Fallout and Skyrim will only last as long as we live. Human history is forever. Peace out homie. ✌️
Welcome back nate, we missed you.
Sea of Thieves gameplay? Based on
EpicNate the historian I like it.
As a complete history nerd, I fully endorse this video and any sequels it may spawn
Same bro
For real
I can’t remember who made the video, but another content creator purposed that Columbus may have actually been a Jew and sailed to India to escape persecution and and gain some religious freedom. Which even if it total nonsense I think it would be extra cool if it were true. He sailed to “India to get spices, trade, etc… but secretly wanted to sail to this fabled land mass nobody has ever reached. Then he makes the journey and then calls back home saying “I totally found those Indians we were talking about, definitely in India right now” the. Eventually got called out by the queen and king and had to play dumb. “ oh shit you’re right!! This isn’t India, but I’m still gunna call these people Indians”
Hell yeah, pre-fallout alt history lore
😂
Is it pre- or post- Skyrim tho?
@@kacperwoch4368 What a silly question...
Fallout is already pre Skyrim
Literally playing Fallout as I listen to this , I checked out when he started saying tobacco mary jane and coke are American , this comment made my day
I would like you to continue these videos!
Aint no way hes going global
International babehhh
Maybe Nate has a console for real life. XD
Actually brazy
As global as ancient trade networks
Mr worldwide
Please, please, PLEASE do more of these! I've enjoyed your work on Fallout and Skyrim, but actual historical mysteries like these are even more amazing. I want more!
You know the gaming world is down bad when epicnate is making real history videos
Nah hes cracked into the most extensive lorebank ever created
not really dude cant branch out? lol
@@eurusbaby it’s a joke brother
@@eurusbaby it’s a joke brother
no wayyyyyy this is sick man, he honestly know his audience!
Thanks for all the supportive feedback! This video is just a bit of a side project I’ve been working on in spare time for awhile to hold yall over for the next Fallout video!
Here are some of the cited papers -
Balbanova's Toxicology of Egyptian Mummies - link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01140178
Andres Nerlich's Report on an Egyptian Mummy - pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8548128/
Heiko Prümers' Lidar Study on Amazonian Settlements - www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04780-4
Love this idea and would love to see more vis like this. Can I ask what you were using for B-Roll in the 2nd and 3rd mystery?
@@irocmoore117You will be ignored. No matter the content that nate puts out i will watch. I love his style of content.
From Minecraft trolls to Skyrim to fallout to now history. You are indeed a scribe.
I enjoyed this video and glad you came so far in youtube. I remember watching you consistently when you had 70k subs and saw your quality only increasing.
@@irocmoore117wasn’t that part a theory about how columbus may have knew?
Please stick to fallout, we don't really need a new historical mystery channel.
Edit: I changed my mind. We need more epicnate right now fallout or no. But please don't leave fallout lore behind
Nate, I am doing part of my PhD in Egyptology about the toxicology of the egyptian mummies and i am currently writing a paper about it for an upcoming scientific convention in my field. I must say that I was truly impressed with how accurate and how much information you managed to post in just little over 7 minutes.
I found your research interested and think that you have a knack for this.
Based and mummy pilled. I wish I had a mummy gf.
As an expert, what is your theory on how those chemicals got there? Is there any sort of consensus on this?
Have you considered that Egyptians in the early 19th century were creating mummies from Modern people to sell because they were such a hot commodity and they had run out of the ancient ones?
@@MW-uk5ji carbon dating is a thing that exists (and he brings up your suggestion)
Wow! That’s incredible to hear!
I must ask - what do you suspect is going on regarding our toxicology mystery?
After exhausting all of fallout and elder scrolls lore, he has finally moved on to real life lore. Im all for it
Shame it’s illegal to talk about certain parts of it
It’s still fallout lore
in the US? Like what
@@adamc117 now im curious, what part of history would be illegal to discuss? 😂
Poopy nuts and phaggy butts
My esteemed audience, I have made a horrific mistake.
Upon rereading Gonzalo Fernandez de Oviedo's account of the History of the Indies, I mistook which story he endorsed.
You see, Gonzalo opens his work by expressing his own belief in the idea that Christoper Columbus had previous knowledge of the location of the Indies and quickly thereafter goes on to describe the story we mention in the video, which I'll now quote.
"There is a story that a caravel sailing from Spain to England with a cargo of merchandise and provisions, wines and other goods, not to be found in England and generally sent there from Spain, was overwhelmed by such violent contrary winds that it was forced to run west for many days, in the course of which it sighted one or more of the Indies. A landing was made on one of these islands and naked people were seen like those found here today. When the winds, which had brought them here against their will, died down, they took aboard water and wood and sailed back on to their previous course. The story goes on to say that as the greater part of the ship's cargo consisted of food and wine the crew had sufficient to keep them alive on this long and arduous voyage and to make the return passage, meeting with favourable weather. They reached Europe safely and made for Portugal. The voyage had been extremely long and dangerous and they
had all the time been greatly afraid. Moreover, though the winds had driven them swiftly on their course, the journey there and back had lasted four or five months, or possibly even more. In the course of that time almost all the ship's crew died. The only men to land in Portugal were the pilot and three or four of the sailors, and all these were so ill that they also died a short time after their arrival. The story goes that this pilot was a close friend of Christopher Columbus and had some knowledge of the quadrant, and that he marked the position of this land he had discovered. He is said to have given this information very privately to Columbus, asking him to make a map and place upon it this land which he had seen. Columbus is said to have welcomed him into his house as a friend and got him medical treatment, for by now he was very sick. Nevertheless he died like the others; thus Columbus remained with sole knowledge of these islands, and this he kept to himself."
However, Oviedo later goes on to explain that while this story is popular, he does not himself necessarily buy into it, borrwing a quote from St. Augustine 'When facts are obscure, better to doubt what we do not know".
In the next chapter however, Oviedo relates the story he *actually* endorses regarding the supposed source of Christopher Colombus' knowledge of the Indies -
"In the last chapter I gave a common story concerning the previous discovery of the Indies, Now I will set down my beliefs concerning Christopher Columbus's motives and the knowledge which emboldened him, as a man of some learn-ing, to undertake this great enterprise, so memorable to the men of his and future times. He rightly recognized that these lands had been forgotten, for he had found them described - and of this I am in no doubt at all - as one-time possessions of kings of Spain. I should like to quote Aristotle on this matter, On leaving the Straits of Gibraltar for the Atlantic ocean, he said, some Carthaginian merchants discovered a large island which had never been discovered before and was inhabited only by wild animals. It was therefore entirely wild and covered with large trees. It had great rivers on which ships could sail and was very fertile; everything that was planted there germinated and produced an abundant crop. This island was very remote, lying far off the coast of Africa at a distance of several days sailing. On reaching it, these Carthaginian merchants, inspired by the fertility of the soil and the mildness of the climate, began to settle and build farms and villages. On learning this the Carthaginians in their senate proclaimed under pain of death that thenceforth none should sail for this land and that all those who had been there should be put to death. For the fame of this island was so high that if any other nation or empire were to hear of it it would conquer it and thus become a very formidable enemy to Carthage and its liberties".
Thus, Oviedo endorses a theory that Colombus, through his familiarity with the classics and Aristotle, was made aware of the Indies and an ancient relationship with Carthage.
This is frankly, a much crazier idea than the former story about stranded ships and I would argue still reinforces the broader point being made in our section about Colombus - That being that many within Spain were themselves convinced that Colombus had some idea of the Indies' existence before his voyage - However this remains a glaring error that I should have picked up sooner.
Part of the reason for my mistake was that this video was largely written in December of 2023 and was never really planned for publication. Ultimately, I decided to edit and publish in June of 2024 without as throughoughly reviewing this material as I should have.
My apologies. To my knowledge, this is the only factual inaccuracy of the video.
Some additional things about the Gorilla story: The skins Hano was supposed have brought back were put up on public display and still visible 500 years later until Rome finally destroyed Carthage in 146 BC. Also note that the word Gorilla has its origin in whatever local language was spoken in that part of Africa in 600 BC. The modern population of the area came there somewhere later and so we no longer have any idea of what that original language was. This single word, Gorilla, is all that survives of it and its language family to this day and without the memory of Hano we would have no memory of it at all.
This story is just fiction
@@rephlaxno it’s not. Phoenician sailors circumnavigate Africa more than 3000 years ago at the behest of the Egyptians. They even recorded a volcano eruption that later was found to be accurate. Euros teach a very warped history. Probably out of some feeling of inadequacy due to euros living like animals when the rest of the world was building cities and making timeless art
@@rephlax
You're fiction
@@rephlaxOK wise guy, you explain the etymology of the word Gorilla then. Jackass.
@@rephlax not really, circumnavigation of Africa seems to have happened at least once as an account of a shipwreck "of Iberian origin" being found by romans on the red sea exists, so Carthaginians sailing past the Gulf of Guinea is not that far fetched, specially since a roman land expedition actually managed to reach lake Chad THROUGH THE DESERT.
We really have a misconception of how big the ancient/classical world actually was. Roman sailors traded with India, romans and Greeks knew of the existence of China (the Greco Bactrian kingdom bordered China) and roman currency has been found as far north as Iceland. Hell, Sierra Leone and Brazil aren't even 2000 miles apart, it isn't that far fetched that some ancient sailor might've ended up in America by accident and their accounts of this accidental voyage to be relegated to ancient sea tales or some shit.
Homie is branching out! Hell yeah.
Ya, really glad to see it. 😊
I actually really liked this!
I love hearing about historical mysteries that aren't alien conspiracies
At first I was a bit worried about a game lore expert going into real history, especially "mysteries' because of how poorly that stuff is often handled on UA-cam. But I gave it a shot because I know from your game lore videos that you do extensive research for those and would almost always come to reasonable conclusions, even when they weren't the most exciting ones. I'm glad I did because you exceeded my expectations here; not only did you not go for the low-hanging fruit of conspiracy stuff, you actually discussed interesting things I hadn't heard about before in an even-handed manner. You clearly did a lot a lot of research, and much like with your lore videos, you didn't jump to the most spectacular conclusions and instead made well reasoned guesses. Guesses that you made sure to present as guesses and not settled fact, which is hugely important imo. Good work, and keep it up, I'd love to see you make more of these.
I’m curious because I don’t always dabble in historical UA-cam, but who else out there that you know of does good historical in depth and engaging videos like this?
@@commandercjwthoughty2 is one but he makes shorter videos around 20 min long
@@commandercjwI can’t remember any others currently but if I do I’ll let you know
@@commandercjwMegatron is pretty good.
@@commandercjwnot exactly in this same context but if your ever looking for some in depth views of historical battles look into “kings and generals” lots of long form content
nate. we need more historical mysteries. this was amazing! as a history buff myself i had not heard of these yet, this was great!
this was a really, really fun change of pace. i love stuff like this but had never heard any of these stories. would love it if you did a side series with stuff like this!
As someone who's a fan of your channel and studies history, you did a pretty good job with this. I really appreciate how you seemed to do research beyond just reading a wikipedia article and promoting conspiracy theories about aliens. You actually presented the information very professionally while still being entertaining. I would honestly be up to seeing more content like this in addition to the video game stuff.
Dude barely even touched the subject, but it's a fun starting point.
@@marhawkman303 Yeah he could've been more in depth and there were a few mistakes, but he actually did better than some channels who claim to do history as their main thing. He already seems to have a decent understanding of bias and how to analyze sources. With a little more work he could make a quality deep dive.
@@MasterTangerines Well, Fallout lore.. is fun because it mimics real-world historical documentation. A lot of key historical documents... were just some guy's journal that somehow survived despite EVERYTHING else he wrote being lost to history.
In modern times we don't even know if the information is 100% accurate... just that it's the only thing aNYONE wrote documenting something.
@@marhawkman303 So you're saying it was aliens? Because that's what I'm saying.
I trust any evaluation of history by beric dondarrion
Bro is doing pre fallout cannon events now 😭
This!
Canon
I hate zoomers
@@JM-mg4elHalf of us are in their mid-late 20s by now. Relax.
Halfway through this video, I realised that history is much more interesting if it's treated as lore. Especially with Nate as the narrator.
Historians can learn a lot from him it can be fun.
Thats actually how it used to be taught.
Columbus: _"Hey, I want to sail across the ocean to find a bunch of potentially uninhibited land that has no known resources. Will you fund me?"_
Not exactly as good of a pitch as finding a shortcut for Eastern trade.
The Phantom island of Antlia was most certainly just the Azores Islands.
@@AsymmetricalCrimes How do you spell isLAND?
@@AsymmetricalCrimes Nah, the Azores were known since early medieval times already, there's no reason they will be mysterious and lost
@@nevyanplamenov5409 The Azores weren't discovered my mainland Europeans until 1427. Before them, only the Vikings had reached them.
In any case, Columbus had no reason not to identify these lands with Japan.
I just wanted to put in my opinion that I really enjoyed this! I feel like I don't know enough about real world history and the format you used for this was super fun and interesting!
The Columbos story is kind funny for me, I'm Brazilian, and we have been said that Brazil was discovered in 1500 but they had caravelas coming here for at least 30 years before that, there was a guy that spent 30 years with the natives learning their language to have negotiations with the Portuguese court, it said that Brazil was only "discovered" because others Europeans countries were getting really close to this so called "island" (the south american continent) and if Portugal don't claim fast, they could loose the land.
Yeah Portugal was known to travel and discover many lands before other European countries, and kept them a secret so they can trade with them without other nations getting involved
Yeah, the "official" story most people hear.... is what the royal court wanted the masses to think... not reality.
Exactly
@@dexfrancolini4734 Gatekeeping Japan, too, until William Adams came along
That 's so interesting and plausible though
It could be Columbus wanted to open a trade route, and was reasonably sure that there were islands that he could resupply at. Allowing him to make what would be an impossible journey otherwise. As well as claim these islands for himself, taking full control of the trade route. Instead he found a seemingly endless continent that blocked all passage West, and made the best of it.
Columbus mission was to disrupt and make the Spanish expedition to India fail. He was a Portuguese spy and ended up a criminal and terrorist due to what he had done. There's no speculation anymore. It's all known facts.
They definitely knew *something* was there. The size of the earth has been calculated quite accurately since as early as ancient Greece, iirc. And if all that distance was all ocean, there would've been no way to create a trade route that treacherous
So basically digging for copper and striking gold
Columbus probably knew something was there, but he always believed it to be a part of Asia. Even when other explorers started to discover more of America and saw that it wasn't part of Asia Columbus kept insisting it WAS Asia for some reason.
@@jerronmellon7105what source do you have that says he kept insisting it was Asia? You can’t post links so give me the website name
When they Called Themselves "High" priests of Egypt, they weren't joking
Ancient Egypt went hard af, of course they found a way to get the good drugs
Im really impressed how much attention you give to small details like the correct promounciation of names and places
hey nate guys here, I’m super excited about this video lmao
Ahhhhhhhhhhh😂 yesss ❤i have been waiting for thiiiiiis content
It’s a worn out joke now
Hi nate guys here again awesome video
Guys here definitely agree
Hey guys, Nate here again, I agree with this!
Don't ever be worried about branching out and trying new games or topics outside of gaming to cover Nate.
I mean I still enjoy Skyrim and Fallout vids don't get me wrong, but with Bethesda dropping the ball on Starfield and coming close to a TWENTY YEAR development cycle. we all knew you'd have to try some new things out. I enjoy how you cover things more than what you cover and I'm sure a lot of others do too. Good longform videos are harder and harder to come by so try what will make you happy. We'll ride right along with you.
Was thinking the same thing. Couldn't have said it better 💪🏾
Twenty year dev cycle? It's been 13 years since the last TES, but they've made and published 3 games since. That's far from 20 years (still unreasonably long imo, especially considering the quality of those games, but it still comes mostly down the fact that they've neglected TES in particular outside spin-offs).
@@TristenSarelvun That's because the dev cycle is for each IP not the entire company's catalog. They have barely started on the TES6, and just have to divert people to spend another year on Starfield, so it's not going to be at all surprising if the game releases are 17 or 18 years apart or more if things go badly.
So glad you've branched out like this, I love how you're going for slightly obscure stories and going in depth.
It's occured to me that if Columbus knew that he wasn't sailing to India, then he called the natives he discovered "Indians" for no reason 🤣
and then killed them and took their land.
@@nero1007Welcome to human history
@@deletenow3276 human life* but yea lol
He never called them Indians he called them, gente sin dios or people without god. Sin dios for shorthand. The English (later Americans) in their language made sin dios into Indians
@@nero1007 talk about Columbus neutrally challenge: impossible
20:55 even the Yucatan Peninsula holds rainforests so dense tat we are still discovering Pyramids by satellite; perhaps similar structures or civilizations in the vast, well-irrigated south American interior are not so different of an idea, and not nearly as outlandish as it may at first seem.
Hell yeah, real world lore. This guy is gonna become the ultimate lore master
Move over Lyris Titanborn, Nate will be discussing Amazonian warriors from the Eurasian Steppe and giants from Lappland soon.
really really like how you talk about all this, its very well researched and your portrayal of each aspects of these theories and oddities is very balanced while staying logical and scientific. so many history mystery videos rely on fringe and conspiracy videos to be interesting without too much actual evidence behind it and you show how it can be done way way better while still being incredibly interesting. huge props
It's always cool to see creators branch out and do passion projects!
Absolutely love it! This is what i needed and didn't know it, lol.
Make a series! Some ideas:
- did julius caesar plan his own death?
- king tut was dna tested and found to be a 99% match with modern Irish people (>2% match with modern Egyptian people)
- the Carthaginians knew all about the new world, and prevented the greeks from leaving the Mediterranean. "The three parts of the world are Asia, Europa, and Africa. Besides these, there is a forth part of the world, which remains undiscovered to us" - Ptolemy the Geographer
- who were the Sea Peoples?
- did Cro Magnon come from Atlantis?
- (forbidden) Chinese pyramids
- pyramid found off the coast of the Azores (underwater).
- Olmes heads look like Africans
- Who were the Etruscans
- the Irish have a legend that they were lead to Ireland from Egypt (or what they call "the land of the pyramids) by a Pharoahess
Loved this video. Please make more of these. Definitely my favorite video of yours. Really cool to see you branching out
After all the sharing you’ve done for the Bethesda realm, I’m very glad to see you expanding instead of stopping. You’ve always been a favorite of mine for lore videos. I’m excited for something different Nate!
Honestly its so refreshing to see you talk about real life history because its so interesting
I wasn’t expecting a real-world history video from Nate, but I am so here for it!!
As a history buff that has watched your channel for years I would like to see more of this. It was very interesting.
I've never seen any of this channel's gaming videos, I just clicked on this video cause it appeared on recommended. The good thing is, if the narrator didn't mention that this was a gaming channel, I could never tell.
I'm still wondering what happen to the Nerevarine after he/she went to Akavir.
Opps, wrong franchise XD
Or what happened to Kon Tiki when he led his people west into the Pacific from Peru.
This was dope, brother Nate. Very interesting indeed. Give us more of this, please.
38:32 that “river“ sounds like he might’ve been describing is the Gulfstream which is a powerful current that originates in the Gulf of Mexico and travels around Florida and up into the north Atlantic
Please dont let this be a one-off this was amazing
Honestly, I would love to see more of this content. My brothers have always been huge history nerds, and they kind of dragged me into it as well, so this just feels like a gab session with them.
Another note on the Amazon is it’s also believed to be a Man Made Jungle. in essence the trees and plants were planted near VERY VERY ancient cities and stuff. but when they collapsed the trees just kept expanding and with no one to stop it. it quickly took over the very flat ground of the now. Amazon
It's all Bob's fault! Just look at what he did to Harold!
Any land that you reclaim from the jungle is always going to be in danger of the jungle Reclaiming it if you don't maintain it
This is some Graham Norton weirdo revisionist shit and no one who actually studies the Amazon believes this.
@@magicpyroninjaIt does seem like when humans arrived it seems like the Amazon basin was very low quality soil. Swamplands not jungle.
I am not sure the extent of it, nor its current standing in research. But it seems that humans totally terraformed the area to be more of a self substaining farm then anything else.
Yeah it's believed the area use to be a massive flat basin right?
Hey Nate this was an interesting one. Loved that some of the mysteries are some obscure ones and less common ones! I would love to see more of this along with the videogames ones.
I speak for all of us: We like this content!
I remember watching a show about lost cities and it showed a part about lost cities in the Amazon rainforest. It showed a flyover taken from a plane over an area that was deforested, and onencan see a layout of a large city with mostly the foundations left showing.
And that story in the Mansa Musa story sounds like it is describing the Amazon River.
I cant express how disappointed i am that this channel isnt just an obscure historical comedy channel.
Dawg, this is possibly the best pivot ive seen in a channel. Keep up the great work nate. 🤙
Nate doing Mysteries in general = a win imo. great stuff
Damn, thats the EU4 map! have you become addicted to the paradox menace Nate?
Whats a EU4?
@@RayvenTheNight unless you want your family to leave you for staring at a map for 1000 hours while laughing like a maniac while committing horrible atrocities, you don't want to know.
@@RayvenTheNight unless you want your family to leave you for staring at a map for 1000 hours while laughing like a maniac while committing horrible atrocities, you don't want to know.
@@darthhatall6961 OK, now I have to know lol that sounds insane.
@RayvenTheNight I am not liable for what will be of your life after you discover these types of games, but search "Europa Universallis 4". There is also "Crusader Kings," "Stellaris," and "victoria 2," all games developed by Paradox Interactive. They are difficult to get into, but they are the most addicting games I've ever played.
I was tentative about watching this but boy am I hooked! The Columbus story was illuminating, the Gorilla story was tantalizing, and it was all in your imitable style. More please!
Knowing that UA-camrs have to expand their content eventually, of all the ways you could have diverted from your usual content I think this is one of the best. I'd listen to hour long videos of this
God damn the Egyptians were getting lit... Smoking blunts and snorting rails in 900 bc
Or maybe they got exposed as being part of a collection in Europe.
Pip pip cheerio cocaine!
En later, hadden ze boter op hun hoofd 😂😂
Phrarohs feinin
@ANDREALEONE95 how'd it get in the organs? Mummies can't swallow or digest.
Got one for you - mass dissaperences throughout history. From the Mary Celeste to Roanoke Colony. Whole groups of people vanishing without a trace without warning and what was left behind gave the impression that nothing was amiss. No signs of violence or attack or disease or whatever.
Thanks for the suggestions, Roanoke is definitely on my list! My long held suspicion is that the colonists were probably struggling to feed themselves an accepted some sort of integration with a local tribe, which then went poorly.
I know John Smith testified that the chief of the Powhatan claimed knowledge of the colonists and responsibility for their fate, but I need to do another deep dive.
@@EpicNate think you can do a mysterious disappearance video of the Bermuda Triangle? The uss cyclops and the five missing Air Force pilots etc?
As far as missing ships, a very possible reason is the Gulf Stream. A large and powerful current that can throw even the most seasoned pilot and navigator off course.
@@lazarusofdeath3123
Recently it has been found that since nobody likes sailing those water, the Bermuda Triangle is actually safer than most other shipping routes on Earth.
Please, please no. We actually do know what happened to a lot of these allegedly disappeared groups, and it hurts my wee historian heart to keep seeing the same nonsense over and over and over again, passed off as fact.
I think Nate likes to stick to real mysteries, not mysteries that were solved at the time and only resurrected for money by Victorian-era shysters and their modern equivalent.
Nate: suggestion: when you do your research, have a look at Simon Whistlers' Decoding the Unknown channel. If a "mystery" has been debunked, it's probably in this list somewhere.
The Bermuda triangle as an other commenter said is actually safer than most Waters when you take into account that it has some of the most traffic considering the fact that the Caribbean is a super popular cruise ship spot
Top ten things you might not have known you could do in a little Caesars
Get brain cancer?
Rob them.
@@zach11241
You can do that pretty much anywhere! Isn’t life grand?
You may not know this, but the ducks at the park are free. I have 30 ducks now at home.
@@somehowstillhere8766 That’s… good to know. Thank you.
Another theory i have about the egyptians having cocaine and tobacco is that it could be there were now lost plants that had nicotine and cocaine in them,or something extremely similar, like how eggplants have nicotine in them, dispite being found on the eastern side of the world
It is worth noting, there were Portuguese maps of some Caribbean islands before the 1490s. Not just a vague notation on older maps, but some decent maps. As mysterious as the Peri Riess map showing Antarctica under the ice sheet.
EU4 and Imperator coming in clutch
Your enjoyment of saying that one spanish name gives me joy.
Branching out? I like it
Well done Nate! I really enjoyed the history mysteries and look forward to seeing more videos like this. God bless you and have a fantastic day.
I saw a video of another UA-camr that said many scholars actually don’t believe it were true gorillas but some sub species or something entirely new
Video suggestions:
1. The Trypillia-culture from 5500 BC (the land of this culture was as densely populated as Mesopotamia with the Babylonian Empire at its peak over 2 000 years later) - why did the big cities have no defenses, why were they burned down?
2. When was Antarctica really discovered? (Terra Australis was a concept known to ancient people but there is also the tinfoil hat folk that claims things like that Arabs knew the shape of the continent *beneath* the ice already in the middle ages)
3. The origin of the Huns (why did they seem to have a slavic language, why did scholars believe they were Chinese, is there a connection between king Ruas and Rus?)
Origin of the Huns and Antarctica have been on the list haha!!!!
Trypillia-culture is something I’ll dive into this weekend though, thank you for the suggestions!
Bro theyre letting us play as ghouls in fo76 next year
Absolutely love the idea of this!
Nate, please do more videos like this, I can't get enough of the way you explain and present stories and mysteries, and now with real history I won't be able to stop watching. Love it.
33:00 My theory for the Egyptian one is that there was a plant similar to cocaine in Egypt that has since gone extinct. Not the first plant to do this so it is very possible.
Heck yes, I hope you keep doing content like this!!
43:03 this was good video. Don't feel like you're pigeonholed into only doing fallout in Skyrim for your own mental health. Feel free to occasionally. Do your own side projects worse that happens. We don't like it. Oh well. Still going to get watched 😎
27:41 me and those mummies test positive for the same drugs
Pre-geekers
XD
I can't wait for the usual camera shots but in th real world. Because we all know that Nate has a time machine and has creative mode.
This Sooooo needs to be a series
Not to discredit Columbus, but as a Norwegian, I was taught that Leiv Eiriksson discovered the Americas first. I suppose it is a bit controversial though 😅
Actually the native Americans over 20,000 years ago did
Yeah he was here before Columbus. The vikings made it all the way into modern day Canada. But of course it was the natives that migrated from Asia to the Americas long before any one.
@@RayvenTheNight
The viking settlement there was also slaughtered
We also learned that the Portuguese knew about the Americas first
He technically did though it was a different region and if you consider green land part of the Americans it would of been his father Eric blood axe or the people who lived in that region long before the Inuit or Vikings also Columbus never claimed to of discovered a new land during his life and if Nate is to be believed others Spanish and Portuguese at least saw the land.
My Portuguese grandma told me that the Portuguese fishermen knew about the new world before Columbus
It was African's already in tha so called New World when Columbus got there. This is a FACT
@@michaels5676 It was African in Rome also. U are uneducated and racist I can guarantee. It was mostly definitely Africans in North America check your history right. And I'm gonna like this comment also
And it has been traces of Africans in Asia also. You are so ignorant and uneducated. Racist people have buried African history
@@nathanflowers7364 it was Africans in Roman. Check your history uneducated and racist
@@michaels5676 uneducated and racist
Love it!
About the mummies, there is also the hypothesis that they used tobacco and cocaine plants native to Egypt, but now extinct. Like cotton, which also grows in both Asia and the Americas
I know I'm a wee bit late as there's already another video like this, but please continue doing these obscure history mysteries! I like hearing about new rabbitholes to dive into.
There were several people that found the new land before Columbus. I don't know why he got credit. North America was named after Amerigo Vespucis ( not sure about the spelling of the last name ). Canada has ruins from Vikings that landed there 500 years before Columbus.
Well both americas where names after Amerigo but he got there after Colombus. However the Viking did indeed got there a few centuries before but never managed to settle for long nor warn the rest of the world about their finding
Yes everyone knows about the Vikings. But Columbus was the first European to establish direct continues links with the new world. Don’t try to diminish his achievements by playing some word game 😂
@@daltongalloway I did some looking in to it and my grade school teacher was wrong. Columbus did find it but Amerigo realized it was the new land.
Yes others knew of the Americas before Columbus but he gets credit because his excursions opened the doors to European integration and colonialism. Global trade routes opened and isolated continents were rushed into modernity, connecting the old world wirh the new, on a massive scale, for the first time.
There is some dispute about whether North America was actually named after Amerigo. There's another theory that they were named after a Welsh man called Americ who is known to have arrived in America 40 years before Amerigo did.
I like this. A lot. Don’t let the low views discourage you, they’ll balance out eventually. I’m a history buff and hearing it in your format is awesome. Great work, Nate.
Yay, this is where we upgrade from Epic Nate to Mythic Nate
Great video format, moving to real world is so unexpected but so very much a good decision that was right there. I'm here for it man.
Would love to see more of this as bonus content! I love weird history and theroies so this was right up my ally.
NATE IS DIVERSIFYING HIS CONTENT 🗣🔥🔥🔥‼️
This is gonna be a good one
Something different, neat.
Something different, nate.
It's always good for a channel to expand its horizons and types of content. Even if it initially loses numbers, it gains a more wide-spread stable audience.
I'm an absolute sucker for history, let along obscure history and mystery. This is absolutely a jam and I fully encourage any more history related content 👍
Tbh man, maybe the fallout well has dried up, I’d absolutely love to see you over more stuff like this or even maybe other games like the Witcher series or dark souls (even if fromsoft game lore is done to death) or like I said, real world mysteries are the most intriguing!
i'm absolutely here for more irl-based content
Bro said marijuana was a gateway drug for egyptians what the hell man lol
I really rock with this kinda mysterious content
This video didn't do as well as your others but the production and research is the same, and I absolutely loved it. I would really enjoy a few videos like this a year that dont just focus on bathesda, and I think many others would as well
I hope he makes more of these ones, I loved it
HE’S ESCAPING BETHESDA, WE NEED TO RECONTAIN HIM BEFORE HE DESTROYS THE WORLD
The problem with the Columbus theory is that Columbus never believed he had found a new land mass. Until the day he died, he fervently proclaimed that he had been to India. While others suggested that it was a New World, it wasn't until Amerigo Vespucci that this was proven, which is why the New World got the name "America." So if Columbus thought he might be finding a new land, even if he thought he found Antillia, he probably wouldn't have argued so strongly that he found a route to India.
I love the background music. I can't help picturing Fallout NPCs bobbing along to it.
bro nice work honestly. It shows you've spent a lot of time reading. I've watched a lot of "history mysteries" and this is some of the best. Deeper cut stuff I haven't heard much about.