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In Croatia if the shaft is bent, we straighten it... If it broke and it's an emergency, we weld it together. If the disks weren't tightened down right, and the shaft was worn round where disks go, we also weld it and grind it afterwards to square shape. Even if disks had their holes rounded off, we have a copper "cube" which is the same size as the shaft and weld new material to the worn disk... The weld doesn't stick to copper so you get a "rebuilt" disk with a square hole that lasts a season or two... Just replacing bent parts is last option over here as its very costly and not really necessary in majority of cases... If I were you I would get that shaft straightened, threads "cleaned up" because of torching and leave it as a spare part. You never know when you will hit a stump or something and brake a shaft on the disk.
All u need to order one is the length of the shaft the thickness of it the length of the threads. Im guessing your shaft is 1 1/8" square an threaded area is probably 3 3/8" long. Keep the videos rolling we enjoy them up here in northern Wisconsin!!!
thanks for sharing- I learn something from each video you guys post.. pretty good chance you guys would still be fighting that nut, & that shaft would likely bend again at that same place again.
the rod you speak of is called a gang bolt, don't forget one edge of the spacers is curved. you should have got a set of gang bolt wrenches with the disk.
You didn't need to torch the nut off the arbor bolt. Spray it with penetrating oil for a day then use an air impact to remove the nut. If the nut comes off hard use the torch to add a little heat and it should come right off.
a nice bit of material there, i would re use it in a second, pound it 1/3 in the clay and tie the apple tree to it. yes a machinist could have straightened it, but what would it cost and what would the new one cost more if you take labour in consideration? now you have it done with a part guarantee so if it fails you can claim.
Just a safety suggestion, never use a claw hammer to bang on steel spacer like that.(Can possibly shatter) Ball,cross peen and or sledge is appropriate tool, and eye protection. Be careful and good luck
+Douglas Laramie A family works together Doug, and Ryan is part of it. Yes, it is coming out of his pocket, and his families. Every time you bend a piece of metal it weakens it. Why keep taking it apart to fix it. Your labor is worth something too. Most likely more than the shaft in question.
I may well be speaking out of ignorance judging by comments from all the experts,,, however,,, the two outboard disks, why are they smaller in diameter than all the others in this gang ?
+Wyomingfarmer I've done this repair before on landoll and sunflower disks, and I can say a hammer is not enough to bend it back and it takes a press to get it straight again. Most shops like this dont have a press, we do because we farm about 8500 acres and we fix all our equipment. Plus he said its stretched out as well as bent so its just better to buy a new one and avoid a bigger mess down the road.
+ANDREW MILLER could've used a press like we have or a skid steer and some blocks. it was bent cold, no problem bending it back cold. and they don't farm much anyway.
Every shop needs a press and you can buy a 20 ton press from Harbor Freight for under $200. Made in China but they work fine for easy jobs like this. I have straighten these shafts and then added a couple washers on the end and it is good to go.
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In Croatia if the shaft is bent, we straighten it... If it broke and it's an emergency, we weld it together. If the disks weren't tightened down right, and the shaft was worn round where disks go, we also weld it and grind it afterwards to square shape. Even if disks had their holes rounded off, we have a copper "cube" which is the same size as the shaft and weld new material to the worn disk... The weld doesn't stick to copper so you get a "rebuilt" disk with a square hole that lasts a season or two...
Just replacing bent parts is last option over here as its very costly and not really necessary in majority of cases...
If I were you I would get that shaft straightened, threads "cleaned up" because of torching and leave it as a spare part. You never know when you will hit a stump or something and brake a shaft on the disk.
Yeah, that would have been an easy fix.
All u need to order one is the length of the shaft the thickness of it the length of the threads. Im guessing your shaft is 1 1/8" square an threaded area is probably 3 3/8" long. Keep the videos rolling we enjoy them up here in northern Wisconsin!!!
thanks for sharing- I learn something from each video you guys post.. pretty good chance you guys would still be fighting that nut, & that shaft would likely bend again at that same place again.
I probably would have put it on the hydraulic press and straightened it, if there weren't any cracks. But I'm cheap!
Keep the good vids going I learned a lot from your vids best on UA-cam
Thanks for making vids like this. Makes it so easy
I would check with Shoup parts also. They will have arbor bolts for this disc.
the rod you speak of is called a gang bolt, don't forget one edge of the spacers is curved. you should have got a set of gang bolt wrenches with the disk.
It is called a shaft and on this model disc the spools are bi directional.
@@hondamaniack actually it is called a bolt...I have been calling it a shaft fir years but everything I go onto the parts list...it's called bolt
Could you guys give a tutorial on how you attach the implements to the back of the tractor with the three-point and hydraulics? Thanks for the videos.
Where you working on the chisel plow as well? I saw it in the backround near the front of the machine shed.
I am adding all new blades to our old disc, so basically did the same thing all weekend.
3:28 they are waddling like penguins lol
You didn't need to torch the nut off the arbor bolt. Spray it with penetrating oil for a day then use an air impact to remove the nut. If the nut comes off hard use the torch to add a little heat and it should come right off.
Do you guys use acetylene or lp with your torch?
Is that green truck in the beginning of the video Travis's truck?
Do you guys do much plowing or do you just run over everything with the disk?
what model victor torch is that?
Are you still doing live streams?
a nice bit of material there, i would re use it in a second, pound it 1/3 in the clay and tie the apple tree to it.
yes a machinist could have straightened it, but what would it cost and what would the new one cost more if you take labour in consideration? now you have it done with a part guarantee so if it fails you can claim.
+Arjan Wilbie you know a machineist that can compress a stretched piece of iron to its original state? I seriously doubt it
with heat it can be shaped in to the straight bar. how long will it keep straight is the question.
Arjan Wilbie are you dumb as well as blind? The shaft is STRETCHED...meaning it is longer than it should be....no machinist can repair that
how much stretched is it? i have done enough bodge jobs to make it work. dumb and blind? nope, a scrap mechanic toss pot.
Arjan Wilbie "bodge job" says it all
Just a safety suggestion, never use a claw hammer to bang on steel spacer like that.(Can possibly shatter) Ball,cross peen and or sledge is appropriate tool, and eye protection. Be careful and good luck
damn ryan i wish i could work that fast lol
You might want to adjust your torch properly before you start cutting next time!
Wow, you got a bunch of critics Ryan. LOL Thanks for showing us how you take it apart.
+Larry342516 The " Big Bent Shaft Debate "
+Douglas Laramie Yeah, it is funny. Personally I would have replaced it too.
+Larry342516 If Ryan was repairing it on his dime, would he still get new? Lets ask him.
+Douglas Laramie A family works together Doug, and Ryan is part of it. Yes, it is coming out of his pocket, and his families. Every time you bend a piece of metal it weakens it. Why keep taking it apart to fix it. Your labor is worth something too. Most likely more than the shaft in question.
Larry342516 hi
Can you sale one disc bro
I may well be speaking out of ignorance judging by comments from all the experts,,, however,,, the two outboard disks, why are they smaller in diameter than all the others in this gang ?
+bluemtnsman The outer two disks are smaller because they angle out to the leveling disk. It's just to reduce ridges.
Why wouldn't you take the rod to a machine shop and have them straighten it? Hell of a lot cheaper than getting a new one from a stealership.
Their called a (shaft) not a rod
+Bryan G Could be called an axle also.
That because they do sell them most of them sell Krause disk
you could have straightened that in five min
+Wyomingfarmer I've done this repair before on landoll and sunflower disks, and I can say a hammer is not enough to bend it back and it takes a press to get it straight again. Most shops like this dont have a press, we do because we farm about 8500 acres and we fix all our equipment. Plus he said its stretched out as well as bent so its just better to buy a new one and avoid a bigger mess down the road.
+ANDREW MILLER
could've used a press like we have or a skid steer and some blocks. it was bent cold, no problem bending it back cold. and they don't farm much anyway.
Every shop needs a press and you can buy a 20 ton press from Harbor Freight for under $200. Made in China but they work fine for easy jobs like this. I have straighten these shafts and then added a couple washers on the end and it is good to go.
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I'm a kidney dialysis patient. Sir I didn't appreciate the kidney donation joke. I'm in need of a kidney while I wait for a kidney I live by getting 5 hour treatments 3 days a week. You are young and hopefully very healthy. I was too. you just never know what will come you way
Idiot proof the reinstall by taking video always a good plan