I have been knitting for 30 years - but am still, and forever will be, an advanced beginner. Every crafter does it for their own reasons. For me, it is meditative and something to do with my hands (instead of eating!). I love seeing younger knitters and crocheters that bring the joy of discovery to my old techniques!
I'm so glad someone else also does this to keep their hands busy. 🤣 my doctor told me I had high blood pressure and to drastically decrease my consumption of sodium. I didn't have too many hobbies before this, so I would often finish work, order takeout and watch TV until bedtime. Now I knit and drink tea instead. Blood pressure almost back to normal. 🤣
This was a really fun and interesting topic, and you handled it gracefully. It’s hard to see our own craft critiqued, but it’s the only way we can all be better stewards of this gift 💕 three cheers for sharing the creative wealth 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I began knitting in 1987, and the fact that straight men knit is finally beginning to be accepted these days. I haven't been to a yarn store in almost 30 years because I'm not supposed to knit (according to the yarn snobs that work there). I knit because it makes people happy to receive my work as gifts, so the patterns I create, I keep to myself, so that what they get is unique; they'll never see someone else wearing the sweater or the socks that I created for them. Also, I work exclusively in acrylic, because I've never met anyone with a sensitivity or an allergy to plastic; acrylic is also wash-and-wear, warm, durable, and less expensive than animal fibers. I've been harshly judged for that as well. I've faced a bit of discrimination and name-calling over the years, but it seems things are changing for the better in this respect.
I sure hope so! I don't see this often - except from Designers and Fiber Artists! It seems they have no problem bashing users if they say anything nice about someone else's on a generic topic/site - or bring up a point that needs clarification/correction in their pattern! They are VERY defensive! Esp regarding price. For someone who doesn't care what the Knitters want/need, then I put those people on a "Do Not Buy From" list I keep! I won't support Gatekeeping! :) I made a comment on having a problem with a pattern...and THE DESIGNER removed it! (I then posted it EVERYWHERE to warn other new knitters, since it was a flaw on a Beginners Pattern!). Now she's on my list, too! LOL! JMHO.
Well, I suppose that's all. The really bad about acrylic, for clothing, is that it's very hot. So, for those of us who live in warmer climates - it's avoid at all costs, unless for home decor or toys perhaps. Just my 2cents!@@Grace-ms7un
Excellent video! I’m a couple months late to the party but wanted to give my own 2 cents about the “not being skilled enough to be a test knitter/crocheted” thing. I think something people often don’t realise is that the best people you can have to test something, whether it’s a pattern or even a website or app that’s being created, are people who are not super experienced. People who aren’t as confident are more likely to pick up on areas that can be improved on for better user experience that someone who is also an expert might completely overlook without realising. The wider range of experiences and types of people who test you product can only help to make it better 😊
I crochet, but I love to knit. I dislike knitting with acrylics because it’s hard on my hands not because l’m a yarn snob. Also I don’t value acrylics the way I do wool and other natural materials. I am trying to lean into more sustainable material to work with and wear.
I always feel terrible when people get on about acrylic yarns. I am sensitive (idk if allergic is the right word but it tears up my skin) to animal fibers so I have to use acrylic, i use cotton and bamboo when i can but not all projects are good for that. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to do any of it. I am jealous though I always love the texture and colors of the wool based yarns.
I feel like it might have to do with what people make with crochet vs knitting. Knitting seem to me like centered around sweaters and scarves and socks, and other comfort clothes were as crochet is used to make functional things like totes, covers and stuff. At least from my time in the yarn world 😊
@@leighhauserman9549 Agreed! Crochet is definitely more useful for household items or dolls, where sturdier fibers are more suited. I think people like acrylic for its function rather than its quality.
Acrylic fibres are some of *the very worst* offenders when it comes to our current microplastic problems- especially if you plan on washing them they can release over 700,000 particles per wash. I wish sustainable fibres would be at a more accessible price point :(
I'm a guy that enjoys knitting and haven't had much of the people judging me thing, but it's SO hard to find patterns that I'd actually want to wear. All the stuff with interesting knitting techniques are flowery and very feminine.
I like to knit and crochet for my family, and I also find it hard to find patterns for men. It’s easy for babies, but why can’t a man have a nice intricate scarf that isn’t girly nor flat out boring?
I've run into this as well, the vast majority of knit patterns are not typically masculine, or not designed for men at all. We need more designers willing to design for everyone. This led me to creating my own patterns, by the way. And can we come up with better names for yarn colors? Carrot and Pumpkin are fine, but there's another orange-colored food out there that would describe this particular color...
I’m 40 and I’ve learned never to join “communities” for hobbies. They all end up the same, gatekeeping, drama and bitchiness. Just do your hobby and love it.
As someone who started knitting less than a year ago and is "already" sharing stuff on the internet, I recognized a lot of the points you mentioned. Claiming your space is difficult, yet people are so welcoming!
I never felt like the community was gatekeeping (maybe because I stuck to forums that were very accepting and enthusiastic for your projects) but yarn shops were different. The one in my town became successful and then knid of snobby. If you weren't looking at the expensive handdyed skeins the shop owner didn't seem to care. Or if you told her you were looking for a certain yarn she'd immediately take you to the expensive stuff.
I have been knitting for 60 years and did my first I cord bindoff a few months ago. There is always so much to learn In every field and we are all here to learn from each other. This last week i learn a young woman in my knitting group how to cast on. 💜 Love to everyone who reads this💜
I have been crocheting for 3 ish years and was gifted knitting needles for Christmas and learned shortly after how to knit. I like it when I see newer knitters sharing tips/tutorials because then it's not as scary. In my mind it's like if they can do it then so can I type thing. Also I feel like if you are able to pick it up (understand what you're doing/make it) fairly easily then it is "at your level" even if you only started knitting/crocheting last week.
I love your channel and other young/new creators and I've been knitting over 50 years. Eek! I love the freshness in your creations and the inclusiveness and it's so sad that people are gate-keeping and making others feel excluded. I knit with all kinds of yarn - I try to make sure they are cruelty free wool and often find the best yarn in thrift shops that I could not afford otherwise. I've made up patterns but never sold them - I just love to colour knit as it's so much fun and it just flows out like drawing with yarn. I think I knit English style - the kind where you throw the wool around the needle. I tried continental then figured nah! I'm happy knitting how I knit - happy with my tension and just love the whole knitting process. I watch a variety of channels with both men and women knitters and all are channels like yourself - welcoming and inclusive. I've heard about knitting drama but it's ridiculous. I can't understand why people would fight about knitting. I did experience that in a local knitting group before the pandemic where half the group (the pure wool gang) looked down on the other half of the group (the acrylic etc yarn gang). Anyone that thinks they can't learn from someone else especially a new knitter is just arrogant. It's when we cease to learn and be open to new that things that we stagnate and that's what makes us old.
Yes! I've been crocheting for several heads and knitting for a bit over one. I also help coordinate a local yarn swap. When those first started I was only a crocheter and I could feel the judgment from the knit only folks. They'd judge for your "lack" of skill as well as the quality of your yarn. Anything with acrylic in it is frowned upon. Some even stating that they won't even touch wool and synthetic blend yarns)(Literally, not figuratively). We can't all afford silk cashmere blends and not everyone can or wants to knit.
FYI, if men want to learn to knit and are intimidated by some groups online, there are quite a few male knitters that I am pretty sure will be able to help them. Like Mikey, from the Crochet Crowd (he is just learning how to knit) or I think his name is Dan from Urban Yarns. Very nice people. I am older and have been crocheting for other 30 years. I have watched quite a few tik tok crochet compilations. They are younger women who crochet. I an in awe of how talented and creative they are in general. I love that the fiber arts is continuing to grow and stay alive with all the younger people learning new crafts.
Unfortunately, some people like to impose their “rules” on everyone else and see everything, even knitting, as a competition. No-one has more or less right to talk about knitting and their knitting experiences than anyone else. Those who are keen to decide the rules for others usually do so because they feel threatened. It happens in every workplace, craft and profession. I learnt to knit as a child 50 years ago and I’ve learned more over the past 2 years than the previous 48 and love the growth of independent designers, you-tubers and other influencers.
Totally understand the intimidation of going into a yarn store for the first time. The store I went to was owned by 2 older women who also sold their finished knitted pieces as well. Holy cow did I feel weirdly embarrassed and judged just looking around. I had the mindset of "oh I'm young and don't know what I'm doing, I don't deserve these nice, expensive yarns". Definitely need to shake that feeling and get over my strange fear of local knitting shops lol i just want to look at pretty yarns!
One bit of gatekeeping I am glad to see so much less of these days ... It used to be that a lot ... a LOT .. of knitters were craftist against crocheters. In the late '90s I was told by a yarn shop owner that she would not sell "good yarn just to have it turned into trash". She said my craft "was only suitable for crappy yarn". In the early days of Ravelry, it was the same. Many of the knitters were brutal toward anyone who used a hook. It has taken 20 years, but I think that attitude is finally abating.
Love that you are having this chat! I’m studying sustainability in the fashion and textiles industry at university and it’s fascinating learning about all the different fibres. And the more I am learning, the more I am realising that there is no fibre that is more sustainable than the other. There’s a range of issues for all that need to be addressed. I personally like to use natural fibres, but I have some acrylic that I’m planning some projects around as well. But in conclusion, I don’t think any fibres are necessarily better than the other, and I feel like accessibility to crafts is important. I know for me it gives me so much joy and completely agree that gate keeping especially when it comes to the view of expensive natural fibre yarns only is unrealistic and will discourage new knitters to take up the craft. And is important to recognise my privilege with what I have access to. Not everyone might have the same access as I do that space needs to be made for that.
What I despise is people who say 'if you don't use real wool you're not a knitter' and 'using acrylic is selfish and bad for the environment. It shouldn't be made at all'. I am allergic to wool and I have hypersensitivity due to OCD so I have to use acrylic or I can't use yarn at all :') not to mention, FAR cheaper and tougher.
the acrylic thing is just mind boggling to me. To me, it feels very classist to be judging people for using a less expensive option because they want to participate in a craft (or whatever you'd like to call it). And it's always under the guise of sustainability, but what i'm hearing is that you only want a person in a specific financial situation to participate in the same craft as you. If you have the means to work with natural fibers good for you, i'm truly happy. But expecting other people to do the same is absolutely ridiculous.
regarding guys wanting to knit and feeling ashamed, i don't feel like that's a result of prejudice from the knitting community. I actually see it being very welcoming in that regard, I think that's more of an overall isue of toxic masculinity unfortunately.
totally agree on the classism aspect of people hating on acrylics, im personally trying to move away from them but ill never shame someone for using only acrylics because i have been, and still sort of, in that position where i can't afford the fanciest most sustainable fiber. plus the nondegrading aspects of plastic makes incredibly hard wearing projects! i don't think i'd ever make a blanket without some sort of acrylic or polyester content, because i can throw it in the washer and dryer and not worry about it.
Cheap wool doesnt cost more than acceptable acrylics where I am from and quality acrylics cost the same as mid level good wools, so I dont consider it a snob issue - acrylics just suck😅 You spend so much time on a project, just to end up with a sweater that changes drastically for the worse within a few uses. I remember as a kid when my grandma switched from cotton to acrylics and I began hating her homemade gifts. That said, I would never comment on what others do, I just dont use it or buy clothes made from it. I do use blends containing acrylics though, but I prefer polyamid or polyester.
I also started knitting in 2020 (as probably half the population during the lockdown boredom haha) and I so much prefer watching the instruction videos of people newer to knitting. They pay more attention to details that could he confusing but more experienced people do them automatically and don't even notice them. Love your channel!
This is a very important conversation to have and thank you for sharing!! It is so true and frustrating for BIPOC creators! Additionally, I didn’t realize how much “drama” there was in the knitting/crochet community 😭
Speaking as a knitter, i think the crochet community is is much more welcoming to beginners overall, whereas the knitting community has a subliminal air of pretentiousness. It’s upsetting because I dont want to believe thats the case but i cant help but catch that vibe :/
I’ve been knitting for almost 20years because I started young, but because of that most older people assume that I’m a beginner bc I’m in the older college age range and try to tell me what patterns to choose and etc. I’m a very advanced knitter and enjoy complicated patterns and even designing my own but I don’t want to publish them. I’ve designed them for my body. I also prefer a more unique English style. I hate the way continental feels.
You won't catch me doing that! I'm old - and find the younger people are more willing to update patterns or to add in necessary changes! I love the younger knitting people!
i'm 16 and i've been knitting for almost 10 years now (oh my gosh-) so i actually get a little taste of both sides of the spectrum. people often view me as a very inexperienced knitter because of my age, when i've actually been knitting (and crocheting) for a really long time. and personally, i'm completely against all gatekeeping apart from when it comes to corporations - i will gatekeep crochet and knitting from them all day long, they dont deserve it
Hi Lisa, I’ve noticed gatekeeping like this, for example when I was learning ballroom dance. I believe the “professionals” have often learned to withhold and meter out information in a way that enriches them in some way, and therefore resent newcomers sharing the knowledge for free. Thanks ❤
I loved how you pointed out so many aspects of gatekeeping in the community! For me as a guy knitting, although I have received some annoying comments, I mostly got a lot of positivity and appreciation from my surroundings. For me the biggest barrier for getting into knitting was that i couldnt find any nice, more modern patterns for my style and for my body type. So I have mostly just been knitting socks and stuff for female friends and my mum. Its great that there are people like you spreading inspiration and motivation in the community, thanks for that :)
Hello Lisa and fellow yarn crafters, For what it’s worth, I think it’s wonderful that there are so many people of all genders involved in this craft. I don’t understand anyone wanting to spread negativity in any form 😢 We all began somewhere, it is irrelevant in my opinion, at what age you began your craft. Speaking for myself, I craft for enjoyment and relaxation. We are all at different levels, and that is the journey. With so much information and education available online, I feel incredibly fortunate and grateful. I don’t feel anyone has the right to judge anyone for their choice of the project or yarn 🧶 To continue your hobby/interest you have to work within your own budget. People that feel the need to express themselves negatively have their own emotional baggage, and I feel mostly sad for them, however I will scroll by and not feed the trolls. We are all entitled to our opinions, however just because something is someone’s opinion, it doesn’t make them right. I just stumbled across your channel today, and have subscribed to continue my learning journey. Thank you for everything you are doing. Craft on!! Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺
I started knitting in 2020 as well and put out my first pattern in 2022. It feels like a really short time in the grand scheme of things but because of everything being closed and I'd just moved to a new city, I was knitting for most of my free time. I think in some instances, people put a lot of undue importance on the years you've been knitting and see you as something of a charlatan when you try to put your designs/opinions out there. But the general response from the knitting community has been wonderful, and it always feels so incredible and validating to hear someone say they like one of my designs ☺
I didn’t start knitting until I retired from my work life. My local yarn shop has a warm inviting atmosphere. When entering the internet community the people pool becomes very large. The anonymity of criticizing brings out the nastiness in some people. I come to the internet looking to expand my skills and be exposed to patterns and yarns.
I knit and crochet. I have never seen a crochet snob...at least so far...in the social media platforms that I belong to. But there are a hell of a lot of knitting platforms that have snobs all over the place. Where I live there are 2 LYS...one is very welcoming and the other is like if you are not heading to the overpriced section then they don't want to help you.
I love wool, but I am on a limited income so I knit alot with aryclic yarn. Now if I was financially able of course I would live to knit more with expensive yarn! Who wouldn't if they could ? But I never judge anyone for either choice, everyone has their own reason!
If you’re able to use ravelry, there’s a function to see what yarns people who have made the project use. Doesn’t always help in finding cheaper alternatives to the main yarn, but it can be helpful if there’s a large amount of projects. That said, you can just check what the main qualities of the yarn are, and find something that will behave similarly to make the project from.
@@personiguess2453 yeah I use those features. I’m more talking about how bigger pattern designers only ever seem to use expensive yarn in their patterns in the first place. Just an accessibility thing that I wish was more common! (Edited for clarity)
As "person I guess" said, it's really easy nowadays to go online, search for that yarn recommended by the pattern and see its composition, its weight/yardage, and then substitute for one that has the same weight/yardage and maybe also the same composition (or not, this is not essential).
@@irmar yes…and I do that. Perhaps I wasn’t clear bc the point keeps being missed. While the extra steps of finding yarn is not difficult, I personally wish it was more common for patterns to either use more accessible yarn in the first place, or list an alternative, inexpensive yarn. I’m my personal experience, this is rare. That’s all. I’m aware of the workarounds.
@@Grace-zd6ic I always use inexpensive alternatives for my knitting. I just swatch and try to get gauge with the yarn I want to use, while also keeping in mind the properties that knitted fabric has when made with yarn of various substances (more or less stretch, etc). Knitwear designers often are sponsored by particular brands, so use their yarn in a given pattern. I don't understand why you reason that a pattern should be written specifically for an inexpensive yarn (actually, Drops brand is quite inexpensive, and has a large pattern library). Do you really think someone who wants to knit will somehow allow the fact that there are few patterns written for acrylic yarn stop them from knitting, or somehow damage their self-esteem, etc?
I'm a 50+ yr old guy, and due to anxiety, was told to find something i can "zone out on" at the end of the day. I thought hey ill make a blanket so I learned how to crochet a simple blanket. That was a few years ago. Literally this last week I was wanting to start a project, when I picked up a circular needle and have been trying it... its SO much harder, but my goal is to be able to make socks (for now). I'm glad you brought up the gender issue because as a guy, it's a little weird, but I do enjoy it at the same time. Anyway this is the first of your videos I've seen, and just wanted to let you know that I enjoyed it, and found it very interesting.
I am a 40 year knitter. I am always amazed by the makes of those that have been knitting for a few years. I think it is great. To try, take chances , have skills and find enjoyment. I only started socks. I don't do alterations for patterns as it never occurred to me. I learn so much from long time and new makers. Isn't that the point of a community? Help others and get inspiration, entertainment and inspiration. Great vid. I am now a subscriber.
the point about cost is so true. i'm finally in a position where i can afford to splurge a bit but especially larger projects like sweaters or blankets can add up really quickly.
I don't usually comment on videos but I definitely agree when you are a new knitter they advice from someone who is also new is generally more beneficial because they don't assume you know the basics! I hate when a video uses loads of abbreviations and I have to go look them up one by one or they skip over something because you should already know it. Love your videos and the Lucy and yak dungarees 😁
Not only that, but other beginners can caution about some mistakes they made just because there was nobody out there to explain to them how this or that is done. Sometimes they can point out how some things can be done easier than "the standard" method. And they're also more encouraging than "more experienced" people when it comes to making your own "whatever it is that you want to make".
I’ve been knitting, crocheting, sewing, and quilting since 1994. I can say for certain that the most helpful videos I have found are from new Yarnbenders (of the Fiber Nation, lol) because they know they don’t know everything, and they’re not so stuck in their ways that if a better/faster/easier/neater way comes along or hits their idea factory, they’re willing to try it out and share it if it works well. I spent almost a decade only knowing the stockinette stitch because none of the old guard was around to help me figure out different stitches (and then the internet and video tutorials happened and now I’m knitting like a pro)
I'm really thankful for this video. I'm very fresh with sharing my knitting on social media so I haven't experienced the gatekeeping yet, but glad to know what is happening in the community. I'm actually seeking some nice knitting communites on the internet, but so far I've only found some fb groups in my native language and they are not very inclusive - even when a samll challange is annouced it's always addresed to women - it just annoys me very much when certain craft is genderised, so I left those groups. I love your videos and I'm glad that there are knitters like you that talks about inclusivity. Thank you
I was just thinking about how different knitting and crochet are the other day. I've been crocheting for maybe 16 years, knitting for closer to 12 but from 20-28 I basically ONLY knit. Lately I've been only crocheting because it's just not as hard on my hands, and overall I find the community is younger and the patterns I find reflect that with their creativity and silhouettes. Many of them also knit&crochet which is cool. To me crochet feels a little more accessible online than knitting where I prefer to just go to Ravelry to search for knitting patterns. I think some of that is because crochet is so much faster. I do also wanna articulate that...I don't really engage in community when it comes to knitting&crocheting 🤷🏾 I generally don't consider it a community personally. I keep to myself and don't really participate in groups. When it comes to knitting patterns I have always just gotten the equivalent yarn weight in a price range that works for me. I haven't seen people shaming acrylic yarn, but I have experienced and heard about the difficulties that come along with using acrylic and those are legitimate. I find that craft stores have really inexpensive (like 3-5 dollars) cotton&wool yarns too. Like for me, I really don't like acrylic hats, so I prefer to use some kind of natural fiber. But like, a sweater is so expensive because of how much yarn it takes, so I use acrylic for those most of the time. I also still like yarn stores and always check for a close out/clearance section and I've gotten some really nice yarn for sometimes less than 50% of it's usual cost.
Interesting really. As a new knitter of one year, I think it’s great there are so many new knitters even on UA-cam! Knitting community is growing fast in my country, Korea. I think the gatekeeping existed in offline knitting shops/cafe where they give out lessons, and maybe still. In Korea, there are private knitting licenses, but Vogue classes from Japan are expensive and popular. You need to complete teaching license to start your own Vogue class. I don’t intend to take any offline classes. In general, I think knitting community is one of the nicest. Yet, some designers got quite upset when they thought others were copying or sharing their design, but i don’t think their arguments were all valid. You can’t exactly copy and sell same patterns but there can be similar designs. Btw, Knitting is not that expensive if you get yarn in cones here, even if you get 100% wool in good quality. They are not plied so it’s a bit tricky to use.
I learned to knit when I was a child and have been for the past 40+ years. Gatekeeping knitting is just so bizarre to me, so I’ll share my thoughts (which obviously can be completely ignored). 1. Knit in the style that makes you comfortable. You’re not doing it “wrong” unless it’s causing pain or you’re not coming out with the intended fabric. 2. I think anything you want to knit is a great beginner project. More complex things will take longer to finish simply because you will be learning multiple new skills as you go. We are so fortunate to have a seemingly endless library of videos to access when we hit a new technique. 3. People who have recently mastered a skill are often the best teachers. They are still thinking through the steps. 4. Rude staff seems to be a long-standing tradition of the LYS, like surly waitstaff in NYC delis. Try not to take it personally. 5. Learn to grade a pattern. This is a huge gatekeeping area that really doesn’t need to exist. I know there are lovely people out there who have shared grading spreadsheets and tutorials. I don’t mean to absolve pattern designers from including a range of sizes. It’s a very useful tool for people who find themselves outside of size ranges, between sizes but want to stay true to the intended ease, or want to improvise their own garments to their measurements. (Also, ChatGPT seems to do a decent job here, but I don’t know if I’d recommend it to a knitter very new to the specific garment, e.g. first sweater.) Happy knitting to all!
I think yarn hoarding is a big issue. I’m guilty of it, but lately i’ve been giving my friends who want to start my extra yarn to experiment with! They’ve made some fun stuff so far 😊
The size inclusivity is a pretty hot topic for me right now- I tweeted about it the other day. I think is is So messed up that there are COUNTLESS free tutorials for tops on youtube that are ALL for S or XS. And to get a bigger size you Have to buy the pattern. They don't even give you a vague clue of 'add stitches here' or 'this would be your X measurement. And when people ask about bigger sizes in the comments they just get a cold 'buy the pattern for bigger sizes'. So you are telling me I have to PAY for a pattern that is free to someone thinner ????? If you are making a free tutorial, make it free for EVERYONE. When this happened to me I was halfway through a butterfly top and I got so mad. I mean no hate to the skinny girlies- we love y'all- I just wish they didn't get preference.
I have been knitting and crocheting off and on for almost 60 years. I enjoy the diverse voices and perspectives that are currently available. Not all techniques or patterns appeal to me, but I do enjoy the creativity that is expressed. Keep it fresh, exciting and relevant to the times we live in.
I would consider myself a very experienced crocheter and a semi-experienced knitter and I like watching videos of all types! I like to watch videos of people just starting out because they have a wonderful excitement about the hobby that reminds me why i love it so much. But also I forget things and sometimes it takes a "beginner" to remind me! I think you are adorable and we are keeping the hobby of knitting and crocheting alive!! So don't worry about the negative comments.
Re:natural fibers vs acrylic fibers, I feel like there isn’t always a lot of nuance used. It’s always “if you use acrylic you’re destroying the planet, organic fibers are the morally correct option” or “if you don’t appreciate acrylic yarn you’re just classist and mean” when there are plenty of other things to consider. Personally, I find acrylic and cotton fibers absolutely vile 90% of the time. I would never condemn someone for using them, but my sensory issues are so bad some days that I can only touch rustic wool because it feels the least offensive on my hands. Acrylic is also super ugly and shiny most of the time, though there are some really nice ones that feel nice, stretchy, and soft without being shiny or uneven looking. However, this particular sensory issue of mine also applies to superwash wool, I hate the overly smooth feeling of it, it’s not very warm, and is usually either super cheap and ugly, or very expensive without most of my favorite qualities to wool. And some people do have a lot of accessible wool/natural fiber options but just feel like they have to stick to acrylic due to inexperience or dislike of commercially manufactured wool blend sweaters so they think all wool is itchy, or the fear that all cotton yarns will feel like dishcloth material, etc. But there are also people in countries with so little accessibility to any yarn, natural or manufactured, that it’s impressive to even find the materials to knit or crochet at all. I have many more feelings about this specific topic but it is incredibly difficult to type on iPad so I’m going to leave off here for now.
Thank you so much for sharing my video with size inclusive patterns Lisa ❤ and thank you for making this video. You are pointing out some very valid points here, let’s hope we can make the community more welcoming, inclusive and kind
Enjoyed your video as always. I have been knitting and crocheting for a long time. I learn a lot from following people like yourself. I now knit/crochet more modern designs, find new patterns, and am more up-to-date with what is available to buy. Thank you so much.
I have been knitting for almost 50 years, but started watching videos about knitting about two years ago. Since then I have learned so many new things, my horizons have been really broadened. Long time knitters, or long time doers of things, tend to, unbeknownst to themselves, get in a routine. Also, gate keeping creates after a while certain uniformity, which is boring. Sometimes it seems that the only difference between podcasts is in a color choice, as everyone is working on the same pattern, while making remarks about people living under rocks. So for me more variety is welcome.
This is a great topic and I think everyone feels this to some extent. I have been knitting for years and years, and there will always be those that are critical of a myriad of things, and they get stuck in their way of doing things where everyone else must be 'wrong'. I am loving the explosion of knitting machines like Sentro because it's breaking down the old snobby attitudes of "Machine knitters are not real knitters" Well I knit, crochet, spin my own yarn (on a spindle, tradition wheel, and electric wheels!), process my own wool, and I also weave. I own vintage sock machines, vintage flatbeds, and also proudly use my Addi and Sentro machines. So if I can make copious easy stockinette items (esp as gifts) and focus on my other crafts I am all for it. I also firmly believe that they make knitting more accessible, and look at all the new people who have been introduced to this amazing craft? Who cares if I am a "process knitter" or a "product knitter" I am both. I also just like making stuff I can wear or use or gift. Period. I just remind myself that people who gatekeep also miss out on all the other great things in life they must be gatekeeping as well lol.
I think these experiences are so interesting because I've had the opposite and not experienced any gatekeeping. I had no idea it was such a problem it's so sad thinking about beginners being put off :( I started in 2020 too.
I have been knitting for 53 years and LOVE new ideas, new knitters bringing a different perspective and new skills because they did not learn the way I did and share something I didn't know. I don't always learn how to knit a new skill, but I always love being around others that love yarn and knitting or crochet or any other yarn art for that matter and that they are willing to share it so that others can experience it and that needs many many types of people to ensure the art is not lost. I love new and old knitters and those who are highly skilled or not yet that highly skilled, it's great to be around all the people who share their joy of this connecting, community art ❤❤❤
Yes to a lot of these!! I make a lot of made to measure patterns, and I'm usually happy with the results, but my LYS has critiqued the patterns I follow a few times 😬and now I hesitate to shop there. I appreciate the help & insight on yarn use, but the project I envisioned usually turns out the way I wanted!
YES, I follow so many different knitters and crocheters from a broad spectrum. In one group on another platform I learnt about weighting knitted appendages and for people transitioning or post-surgery due to cancer or injury. Also how to resize knits to fit male chest shapes to make traditionally female styled clothing. There's no need for me to identify with someone who has had cancer or is transitioning if that is not my experience, but it is great to connect through our love of yarn and using it for whatever we want to create to bring joy, comfort and love.
Loved this episod! And totally agree, however, I don't think the "malice" won't stop, there will be always somebody thinking is superior to others. Years ago I ve started a channel sharing some baby garments tutorials and I loved every minute, I enjoyed to show step by step the process. Of course, some people loved it and some not that much, and I received a lot of bad messages but to be honest I didn't care. I new from the start that no matter how much I'll try there will be always somebody complaining about something. We sometimes forget that we are not into some competition, and we just need to enjoy the process, the result and the comunity. This is happening also with many knitting podcasts, there are groups and recommendations and sometimes I feel that some podcasters are taking advantage on it but, again, we can choose what we want to see and listen, and this is great. I am also a budget knitter and yes, I would love to be able to buy popular yarns or hand dyed yarns and lots of silk mohair to combine! But I cannot afford it, sometimes I am saving 2-3 months to buy special yarns for a project and it is ok, however, when I see in some podcasts how less expensive yarns are banned, well, again, this is not ok and as always we can choose what to watch/listen or who we follow 😍 I so enjoy seeing youn people knitting and crocheting and I am amazed on how quick they are fall in love with the craft but also their beautiful result and how fast they are learning, it is a wonderful process to see it. I know some guys that are knitwear designing and I love it, they have a beautiful and different vision about garments and I wish more of them to step out beacause their work is stunning.
Thrift stores is where i want to buy my yarn from. :p well, i already did. Ok, it wasn't enough for a garment, but for accessories, such as a hat, or scarf, or headband. who cares? For more yarn, i can just get a knitted sweater, cardigan, or more [if they have] and take them apart to make something new. You can even find real wool or mohair or something nice this way. If i'm not mistaken , i found once a cashmere sweater that is used as is ;p
For some men it's the other extreme too. There's a very conventional looking guy from England who knits and it's a swimmer I think I forgot his name. Anyway he is loved an praised so much which is great! Men should be allowed to do this types of crafts as well but it's sad that only very conventional good looking people get accepted easily.
Thank you for your lovely video! I also experienced some things regarding crochet...I crochet for well over 10 years now and started to knit around 5 years ago. I use all the yarns I like, still trying to be sustainable. Some people tried to tell me that they knit and crocheting is so easy...everyone can do it...design stuff, etc. because it is so easy. As if you don't have to learn to crochet because it is just not difficult, especially for knitters (NOT TRUE). Just be nice and let others do their thing. Don't belittle someone's hobby/art.
I have been knitting for 20 years on and off, since I was about 10 I could knit slippers and scarves. I love watching and listening to ANYONE new or experienced talk about knitting hahahaha, I always learn somthing and also I just get to listen to someone else who loves yarn and crafting talk about it !!!
The acrylic thing sounds very classist to me. I live in the Philippines and both animal and natural fibers are just not accessible .If there's any, it is very expensive due to shipping and conversion. I use an indophil (acrylic) yarn which relatively feels nice to the skin and doesn't feel scratchy with my fingers. This is what is accessible to me. I can get a kilogram (2.2lbs) locally for just 420 pesos. That is a little over $8 USD. If I were to get an animal/natural fiber online, $10 USD is not even enough for a 100grams ball of yarn.
there's only really one local yarn shop in my area and I absolutely love it there, the owner is very sweet and kind, she gives me all kinds of advice and has never been condescending. She's also not the kind of yarn snob that tries to force me to buy expensive wool and mohair, any suggestions she makes for yarn for me, because I'm also young and still a student, are cheaper alternatives and only more expensive ones when I request them.
I don't think ppl are aware that it's needed for new information and new videos, content etc to be made all the time for the craft to continue. Why should I be confined to tutorials made 12 years ago? Sometimes a tutorial is very confusing and being able to find a new one that I understand better helps. But also the principle of continuity means new stuff needs to be here all the time. I love the crochet community so far and am currently working on making a pattern to share with ppl. We need new patterns as well! New aesthetics! Innovation!
I just found this. I was listing to the part about people telling you to knit or crochet at your level. I have ADHD and I tried knitting and crochet starting the usual way. Basic stitches and scarfs and hated it and failed time and time again. I started with outside beginner patterns and loved it and finally learned it quickly. So many people have given up because of it. I don’t understand the continental vs English knitting debate. Who cares as long as people are knitting. I struggled to knit for ages because a lot of the how to books and videos I was coming across in English style and I just didn’t get it found crochet finally then found continental knitting by accident and it clicked. The main thing knitting is for everyone and I have taught my students finger and French knitting and the calm and focus even my most hyperactive kids sit for as long as I let them.
firstly, I'm impressed that not only are you making garments after only 2 years but also designing. I learned to knit over 45 years ago, shown by a grandmother, then mostly self-directed from books etc, and I've only knit a handful of garments that need to fit (without swatching, mind), instead making scarves and hats (because, swatching >_
I wish you'd inform us of HOW to choose those! I've tried, and am so confused! Where do you get them? What kind do you get that's acceptable for clothing? Help me, please!
@@DebbieHQ of course! Holst Garn is around a fingering weight, I usually use 3mm-3.5mm when knit single, but you can easily double it up and knit it at a worsted weight:)
About the luxury yarn thing: I totally get why some people don't want to knit with acrylics or commercial yarn, but I do not get why they need to say things like "No acrylic yarn will ever enter my house! 🤢" or stuff like that. That totally puts me off from watching their content. Just.. say you prefer the other yarn and let other people enjoy their time! Also, why do some people need to recommend their expensive, limited, high quality, completely inaccessible to me yarns all the time? Like it's not that I would EVER be able to knit with it.. *cough* nutiden *cough*
I've been knitting since 2019. I have a couple of disabilities that effect my joints as well as my memory (learning new things). So I have only used a few stitches and haven't made a sweater, my blanket is a tortoise and the hare situation. I started crocheting and found it hurts my hands but I like it more. Currently starting a rug that is SC. Do what you want and what you can!
Interesting topic, loved your perspective! I've also experienced a lot of judgement towards vegan knitters, under every thread about vegan yarn substitutes you'll find some comments debating veganism or hating on acrylic/plant yarns.
I really enjoyed this video. I have knitted for nearly 40 years, but I think I am quite individual or maybe not in that I try to see people as a knitter first and age, race, gender second if you know what I mean. For instance I only learnt to knit socks last year, I've never knitted a shawl, I think you tend to knit items you enjoy more, like I love knitting baby items adult jumpers etc. I love to learn or see how others knit like continental, half the time I realise I knit a certain way but didn't know the correct term, like short row and regularly learn new things from newer knitters as you are quite right you see things with newer eyes and as a knitter of many years you can get stuck in knitting in certain ways. Also I am only just learning to crochet, after 40 years lol. I love watching knitting and knitters from all around the world, you don't need to speak a language to watch someone knit, but you can also be introduced to that culture, a bit like music. I love knitting and crochet it's brought so much to me from meeting people in person and around the world on the internet, it's quite universal and I just love how it brings people together and if I come across any negativity, well I just switch off! Something some people forget you can do! Knitting and crochet are my happy place, and I love to meet new people and new opinions, to still learn and expand my brain. I've learnt something from you today, and that's the term gatekeeping so old knitters can learn from newer knitters just like older people like me lol can also learn from younger people too. By the way although you age on the outside you still think young on the inside - or may it's just me 😀. Ps, sorry for the essay, maybe I could turn my comment into a book lol 😂😂😂😂😂
I haven't experienced any negativity from the knitting, looming, nor the crochet community directly/ indirectly. What I have noticed is that Mikey from the Crochet Crowd was getting a lot of negative feedback from his crochet viewers about his knitting content. I knit mostly with acrylics and cotton, and I don't feel any type of way about using it for my knit-worthy friends and family. I do have other fibers, but I enjoy what I have and it is what it is.
I have been knitting for 10 years and crocheting for about 13 years. I haven't noticed anything going on in the "knit community" or "crochet community" maybe because I don't like social media, except for youtube. I have noticed that knitters and crocheters (and their viewers) on youtube seem very nice and polite to one-another. My only strange experience with either community was 2nd hand. A past boyfriend told me that his ex was a crocheter (and did not knit), and apparently she had told my ex that knitters are "stuck up, and think that knitting is better than crochet." Personally, though, I have never heard a knitter say anything like that.
I should...but I'm one of the ones who's aways reading...that includes sm! But sometimes, I just have to tune it out. It gets to be too much! Vaca's are always good! :)@@heidih3048
i really love to listen and watch your videos while knitting. you are such an inspiration. so: potatos gonna potate. i love your tipps and to me there is always something to learn in what you say. ofcourse there are always ppl wo are bitter about a lot of things so they cant be happy for your succes. but fuck that. you are loved and admired and going really wild for only knitting since 2020 😍😍😍
Perfect timing. I've been looking for something to watch/listen to while I clean the kitchen and I love your vids. Thanks! (P.s. and yay for this topic!)
I really don't understand the Acrylic hate. I get knitting with wool is obviously the most authentic way to knit but as someone who's plant-based and doesn't use wool because of personal reasons I never understood it. Don't most modern knitters knit because they want to make their own clothes and are against fast fashion? Surely at that point the yawn you use shouldn't matter and if anything - from a sustainability stand point - surely Acrylic is better (yes, it's plastic but it that's a whole other debate). But beyond that the fact people focus so much on the type of wool people use really bothers me. As long as you're knitting with a type of yarn what does it matter?
i agree that it’s harmful that people nitpick over wool, but acrylic definitely is more harmful to the overall ecology of the planet. microplastics are endocrine disrupters and cause cancer. they’re a disaster without comparison for the environment (microplastics we’re just discovered in human breastmilk) and modern sheep NEED shearing otherwise they die incredibly painful, slow deaths. there’s absolutely major flaws with industrial sheep farming, but acrylic isn’t at all a sustainable solution.
@@Brynwyn123 It makes YOU sweaty and cold, not everyone else. Not your job to check the wallets of others in this hobby, do your thing and allow others to do theirs. It is people like you that drive folks away from loving these crafts and/or asking for help to go further.
My opinion on selling your products is that if someone else finds what you’re selling to be worth the listed price, it’s sort of silly to get upset about that. I’ve literally only just completed my first ever amigurumi project and I’ve already had people asking if I take commissions. Why would I wait an extra year to be Good Enough when others have decided I’m Good Enough now?
I started with acrylic and used it almost exclusively for years, because I started at 13 and didn’t exactly have much allowance money to buy yarn, and then I was a broke college student so I didn’t exactly have a lot of money to buy yarn lol. And then I just. Had my brands I liked. It honestly wasn’t until I started making cat toys to donate to the local rescue that I branched out to cotton and hemp yarn because I wanted to make sure the toys were safe (in case the cats chewed on the toys and accidentally ingested some of the fibers, acrylic yarn won’t break down in the digestive tract and could cause an intestinal blockage).
Size inclusivity is such an issue! Some of my favorite patterns don’t include my size and it sucks, especially as someone newer to the craft. It does mean, however, that I’ve had to learn the hard way how to alter patterns and that’s such a useful skill to have and really stretches the brain! I really recommend awesome instructors like TLYarn Crafts, who is such a positive and welcoming energy that it is very encouraging. Have fun, learn at your own pace and make friends-is the best thing I’ve learned regarding fiber arts.
❤For the ones who don't like acrylic, I highly recommend trying Hobby Lobby's I Love This Yarn. It's the softest I've worked with. Also, every other week, all their yarn is 30% off. Next week is one of the weeks ❤
Weirdly as someone who has been knitting for a couple of years I still feel ‘new’ and when I see questions I am worried about posting an answer invade the way I do it is not the established ‘normal’ way 😊
Wow! I just found your channel, and so happy I have, I have been knitting for over 50 years and youtubing for almost 2 and because I have so much to learn about both! I am just having a tips and tricks series and it makes me happy that everyone likes to share their tips. Love your show! Cheers ♥ xx
Tbh since crocheting has become trendy a lot more people have gotten into it purely to make some money WHICH IS FINE obviously!!! But like I got bullied for crocheting in school;-; it sucks that now it’s trendy everyone is doing it only to make money rather than because it’s a sick hobby to have! But I always have encouraged people to crochet ! And taught people too!!
I think there is also some gate keeping around hand dyed yarns and LYS being only for knitters. As a Crocheter I love hand dyed yarns. I find online yarn shops to be much more accepting.
I start knitting at around 2014 and up until now I still feel comfotable to make something from a pattern rather than make my own pattern, and it's okay. I just want to knit for fun, not thinking about the math, shape, and all of that pattern making stuff. And I don't understand why people keep telling other people not to use certain yarn. A pretty yarn is quite expensive, so why we can't use acrylic to make something? Eventhough now I don't use 100% acrylic because of weather issue (it's too hot here, so I use cotton or cotton acrylic).
This reminds me of my first time, when i went to a yarn shop in a large market in Seoul where they sell yarn in packs and they’ve been knitting for over 30 years… (they don’t even need patterns or only use charts!) and i went when I had NO IDEA. They were nice and helpful but I didn’t understand much. (There is still so much to learn!) I didn’t go to the yarn shop where they sell packages at first so, haha.
The only reason I try to knit with wool is because it’s easier to not drop a stitch with it rather than acrylic. If someone can manage it good on them!
I plan to start crochet and have been watching videos ....I think there are enough of beginners,intermediate ,and advanced videos and websites to spread the wealth. No room for snobbery. Someone treats you badly, don't return to their website or storefront. People in general seem to feel it's easier to criticize rather than finding a compliment
Im a designer and one of the major problems is plagiarism. This can range from; someone was so inspired that they created something very similar, to straight up stole the photograph and sell a knockoff. It makes it a race to come up with new designs while also dealing with legality of stolen images. There is no patents on fashion design in the US, so we can't stop that front, which is fine, it also allows us as designers to be inspired by the same things as other designers. So to help with the plagerism, is to have photo documents, patent specific design clousures or fabrics and personalized logos or design concepts. Creators can use labels and watermarks with there garments in their photos and patterns. Don't have your garments outsourced in locations that are known to steal other designers works. Otherwise, take it as a compliment that someone liked it enough or thought it was valuable enough to steal. I think the knitting and crocheting pattern plagerism will be best targeted by have a specific colorway or style incorporated into every design. That way if videos get ripped ( example would be natalie sideserf cakes are bright green buttercream icings or repeated pattern thats a logo). Maybe some of you can create a new stitch and use it in a specific location, like only in necklines, etc.
This is something i've noticed is the lack of belief when younger people have been knitting for a long time. For example, I went to a local knitting convention and I was asked how long I've been for knitting by an older knitter. After I had told her that i've knitting been knitting for a decade, she proceeded to argue that i was lying because i was 16 at the time. I don't know if this is a universal experince but i just thought this should be talked about.
one difference i've noticed between the knitting and crochet community is pattern accessibility. a lot of people from the crochet community are very open to share their patterns and do tutorials, and while in the "knitting world" we have sites like drops and people who do tutorials exist, is not at the same same scope. now, i'm not saying that gaining money from your patterns is wrong, i just find it curious. is it because crochet is seen as lesser than? is it easer to pattern or something of the sort?
Going back to the acrylic yarn debate: there are plenty of people who prefer acrylic for various reasons- from veganism to skin sensitivity. Personally, I cannot work with wool and other animal products due to allergies. This also means that I cannot wear said products. Does that mean I should never get into knitting because the "good stuff" is inaccessible to me? This is also one of the main reasons why I crochet over knit- there seems to be less judgement for using acrylics
Yes this is very important to talk about! I just started the video but I'm very curious about your opinions. I'm also very new to the craft community (started a year ago) so gatekeeping really affects me & my work
I don't test knit because I don't like deadlines on my hobby. I understand that others like the early access. Skill level doesn't matter. The designer wants to know if the pattern is understandable.
To add onto the inclusivity point, I would love if patterns were more socioeconomically inclusive. It sucks to buy a pattern, only for the recommended yarn to bring the garment+pattern cost to $100 USD+. I reallyyyy appreciate patternmakers who offer yarn alternatives and even more so, I love when they test the pattern in a more affordable yarn so we can see what it looks like before investing in the pattern and the yarn.
Imo comments like that are coming from a place of insecurity. They must think they are not (or were not) skilled enough to teach others and are projecting that onto you. I’ve been crocheting over 20+ years and I prefer watching the newer knitters/crocheters because they tend to bring new ideas to the game. Glad I found your channel and look forward to watching more! 🧶
The only local knit/crochet group in my local area is bad about gatekeeping in several ways. First is expecting everyone to chip in for the paid space they use to meet when there are plenty of free spaces in town. The second is that they meet at a time that often only a retired individual wouldn't be at work. The third way is how they constantly criticize the use of acrylic yarns for any kind of project. The younger people and the new to the craft people typically only come to the group once before concluding that the group is not a good fit for them.
not amongst the fibre arts community online but in personal circles there is so much tension (pun intended) when you say you both knit and crochet or you're using a paid pattern or you splurged on well-known + expensive yarn etc - everyone needs to have a view on something whether positive or negative and when there is a hint of jealousy on their side that is when it becomes negative. I can't think of a single example of someone giving a negative critical comment that hasn't stemmed from envy!!! you did a fantastic job addressing a very difficult and touchy subject loving your videos as always
I have been knitting for 30 years - but am still, and forever will be, an advanced beginner. Every crafter does it for their own reasons. For me, it is meditative and something to do with my hands (instead of eating!). I love seeing younger knitters and crocheters that bring the joy of discovery to my old techniques!
I'm so glad someone else also does this to keep their hands busy. 🤣 my doctor told me I had high blood pressure and to drastically decrease my consumption of sodium. I didn't have too many hobbies before this, so I would often finish work, order takeout and watch TV until bedtime. Now I knit and drink tea instead. Blood pressure almost back to normal. 🤣
This was a really fun and interesting topic, and you handled it gracefully. It’s hard to see our own craft critiqued, but it’s the only way we can all be better stewards of this gift 💕 three cheers for sharing the creative wealth 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Love to see you here weighing in on the subject!!
Thank you so much, very much appreciated! 🥰
I began knitting in 1987, and the fact that straight men knit is finally beginning to be accepted these days. I haven't been to a yarn store in almost 30 years because I'm not supposed to knit (according to the yarn snobs that work there). I knit because it makes people happy to receive my work as gifts, so the patterns I create, I keep to myself, so that what they get is unique; they'll never see someone else wearing the sweater or the socks that I created for them. Also, I work exclusively in acrylic, because I've never met anyone with a sensitivity or an allergy to plastic; acrylic is also wash-and-wear, warm, durable, and less expensive than animal fibers. I've been harshly judged for that as well. I've faced a bit of discrimination and name-calling over the years, but it seems things are changing for the better in this respect.
I sure hope so! I don't see this often - except from Designers and Fiber Artists! It seems they have no problem bashing users if they say anything nice about someone else's on a generic topic/site - or bring up a point that needs clarification/correction in their pattern! They are VERY defensive! Esp regarding price.
For someone who doesn't care what the Knitters want/need, then I put those people on a "Do Not Buy From" list I keep!
I won't support Gatekeeping! :)
I made a comment on having a problem with a pattern...and THE DESIGNER removed it! (I then posted it EVERYWHERE to warn other new knitters, since it was a flaw on a Beginners Pattern!). Now she's on my list, too! LOL!
JMHO.
My uncle knits, and I’m so happy that there are multiple fiber artists in my family (me, said uncle, and my grandma)
Never thought about allergies that way. It's gonna be a bad day when the first plastic allergies happen.
Well, I suppose that's all. The really bad about acrylic, for clothing, is that it's very hot. So, for those of us who live in warmer climates - it's avoid at all costs, unless for home decor or toys perhaps. Just my 2cents!@@Grace-ms7un
Excellent video! I’m a couple months late to the party but wanted to give my own 2 cents about the “not being skilled enough to be a test knitter/crocheted” thing. I think something people often don’t realise is that the best people you can have to test something, whether it’s a pattern or even a website or app that’s being created, are people who are not super experienced. People who aren’t as confident are more likely to pick up on areas that can be improved on for better user experience that someone who is also an expert might completely overlook without realising. The wider range of experiences and types of people who test you product can only help to make it better 😊
something i’ve noticed is that the crochet community is much more welcoming to people using acrylics than the knitting community
I crochet, but I love to knit. I dislike knitting with acrylics because it’s hard on my hands not because l’m a yarn snob. Also I don’t value acrylics the way I do wool and other natural materials. I am trying to lean into more sustainable material to work with and wear.
I always feel terrible when people get on about acrylic yarns. I am sensitive (idk if allergic is the right word but it tears up my skin) to animal fibers so I have to use acrylic, i use cotton and bamboo when i can but not all projects are good for that. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to do any of it. I am jealous though I always love the texture and colors of the wool based yarns.
I feel like it might have to do with what people make with crochet vs knitting. Knitting seem to me like centered around sweaters and scarves and socks, and other comfort clothes were as crochet is used to make functional things like totes, covers and stuff. At least from my time in the yarn world 😊
@@leighhauserman9549 Agreed! Crochet is definitely more useful for household items or dolls, where sturdier fibers are more suited. I think people like acrylic for its function rather than its quality.
Acrylic fibres are some of *the very worst* offenders when it comes to our current microplastic problems- especially if you plan on washing them they can release over 700,000 particles per wash.
I wish sustainable fibres would be at a more accessible price point :(
I'm a guy that enjoys knitting and haven't had much of the people judging me thing, but it's SO hard to find patterns that I'd actually want to wear. All the stuff with interesting knitting techniques are flowery and very feminine.
I like to knit and crochet for my family, and I also find it hard to find patterns for men. It’s easy for babies, but why can’t a man have a nice intricate scarf that isn’t girly nor flat out boring?
Try some vintage patterns they usually cater to unisex/ male patterns more you might have to pay a little for them though
I have this exact same issue!!!!!!!! even though I'm a gay guy with a relatively feminine sense of style!!!!! it drives me up the wall honestly
Look up Male Designers - they're out there! And they usually design for men.@@nottheborg836
I've run into this as well, the vast majority of knit patterns are not typically masculine, or not designed for men at all. We need more designers willing to design for everyone. This led me to creating my own patterns, by the way. And can we come up with better names for yarn colors? Carrot and Pumpkin are fine, but there's another orange-colored food out there that would describe this particular color...
I’m 40 and I’ve learned never to join “communities” for hobbies. They all end up the same, gatekeeping, drama and bitchiness. Just do your hobby and love it.
As someone who started knitting less than a year ago and is "already" sharing stuff on the internet, I recognized a lot of the points you mentioned. Claiming your space is difficult, yet people are so welcoming!
me too, I totally agree with your point!
I never felt like the community was gatekeeping (maybe because I stuck to forums that were very accepting and enthusiastic for your projects) but yarn shops were different. The one in my town became successful and then knid of snobby. If you weren't looking at the expensive handdyed skeins the shop owner didn't seem to care. Or if you told her you were looking for a certain yarn she'd immediately take you to the expensive stuff.
I have been knitting for 60 years and did my first I cord bindoff a few months ago. There is always so much to learn In every field and we are all here to learn from each other. This last week i learn a young woman in my knitting group how to cast on. 💜 Love to everyone who reads this💜
I have been crocheting for 3 ish years and was gifted knitting needles for Christmas and learned shortly after how to knit. I like it when I see newer knitters sharing tips/tutorials because then it's not as scary. In my mind it's like if they can do it then so can I type thing.
Also I feel like if you are able to pick it up (understand what you're doing/make it) fairly easily then it is "at your level" even if you only started knitting/crocheting last week.
I love your channel and other young/new creators and I've been knitting over 50 years. Eek! I love the freshness in your creations and the inclusiveness and it's so sad that people are gate-keeping and making others feel excluded. I knit with all kinds of yarn - I try to make sure they are cruelty free wool and often find the best yarn in thrift shops that I could not afford otherwise. I've made up patterns but never sold them - I just love to colour knit as it's so much fun and it just flows out like drawing with yarn. I think I knit English style - the kind where you throw the wool around the needle. I tried continental then figured nah! I'm happy knitting how I knit - happy with my tension and just love the whole knitting process. I watch a variety of channels with both men and women knitters and all are channels like yourself - welcoming and inclusive. I've heard about knitting drama but it's ridiculous. I can't understand why people would fight about knitting. I did experience that in a local knitting group before the pandemic where half the group (the pure wool gang) looked down on the other half of the group (the acrylic etc yarn gang). Anyone that thinks they can't learn from someone else especially a new knitter is just arrogant. It's when we cease to learn and be open to new that things that we stagnate and that's what makes us old.
Yes! I've been crocheting for several heads and knitting for a bit over one. I also help coordinate a local yarn swap. When those first started I was only a crocheter and I could feel the judgment from the knit only folks. They'd judge for your "lack" of skill as well as the quality of your yarn. Anything with acrylic in it is frowned upon. Some even stating that they won't even touch wool and synthetic blend yarns)(Literally, not figuratively). We can't all afford silk cashmere blends and not everyone can or wants to knit.
Fiber Artists and some Designers do this ALL the time on Reddit and other SM sites. I do perfer everyone just be nice.
FYI, if men want to learn to knit and are intimidated by some groups online, there are quite a few male knitters that I am pretty sure will be able to help them. Like Mikey, from the Crochet Crowd (he is just learning how to knit) or I think his name is Dan from Urban Yarns. Very nice people.
I am older and have been crocheting for other 30 years. I have watched quite a few tik tok crochet compilations. They are younger women who crochet. I an in awe of how talented and creative they are in general. I love that the fiber arts is continuing to grow and stay alive with all the younger people learning new crafts.
Norman from Nimble Needles has a lot of great tutorials for beginners.
@@michelestanley9620 I absolutely LOVE Norman and his tutorials!
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Unfortunately, some people like to impose their “rules” on everyone else and see everything, even knitting, as a competition. No-one has more or less right to talk about knitting and their knitting experiences than anyone else. Those who are keen to decide the rules for others usually do so because they feel threatened. It happens in every workplace, craft and profession. I learnt to knit as a child 50 years ago and I’ve learned more over the past 2 years than the previous 48 and love the growth of independent designers, you-tubers and other influencers.
This is such a lovely comment ❤
Totally understand the intimidation of going into a yarn store for the first time. The store I went to was owned by 2 older women who also sold their finished knitted pieces as well. Holy cow did I feel weirdly embarrassed and judged just looking around. I had the mindset of "oh I'm young and don't know what I'm doing, I don't deserve these nice, expensive yarns". Definitely need to shake that feeling and get over my strange fear of local knitting shops lol i just want to look at pretty yarns!
One bit of gatekeeping I am glad to see so much less of these days ...
It used to be that a lot ... a LOT .. of knitters were craftist against crocheters. In the late '90s I was told by a yarn shop owner that she would not sell "good yarn just to have it turned into trash". She said my craft "was only suitable for crappy yarn".
In the early days of Ravelry, it was the same. Many of the knitters were brutal toward anyone who used a hook.
It has taken 20 years, but I think that attitude is finally abating.
Love that you are having this chat! I’m studying sustainability in the fashion and textiles industry at university and it’s fascinating learning about all the different fibres. And the more I am learning, the more I am realising that there is no fibre that is more sustainable than the other. There’s a range of issues for all that need to be addressed. I personally like to use natural fibres, but I have some acrylic that I’m planning some projects around as well. But in conclusion, I don’t think any fibres are necessarily better than the other, and I feel like accessibility to crafts is important. I know for me it gives me so much joy and completely agree that gate keeping especially when it comes to the view of expensive natural fibre yarns only is unrealistic and will discourage new knitters to take up the craft. And is important to recognise my privilege with what I have access to. Not everyone might have the same access as I do that space needs to be made for that.
What I despise is people who say 'if you don't use real wool you're not a knitter' and 'using acrylic is selfish and bad for the environment. It shouldn't be made at all'. I am allergic to wool and I have hypersensitivity due to OCD so I have to use acrylic or I can't use yarn at all :') not to mention, FAR cheaper and tougher.
the acrylic thing is just mind boggling to me. To me, it feels very classist to be judging people for using a less expensive option because they want to participate in a craft (or whatever you'd like to call it). And it's always under the guise of sustainability, but what i'm hearing is that you only want a person in a specific financial situation to participate in the same craft as you. If you have the means to work with natural fibers good for you, i'm truly happy. But expecting other people to do the same is absolutely ridiculous.
regarding guys wanting to knit and feeling ashamed, i don't feel like that's a result of prejudice from the knitting community. I actually see it being very welcoming in that regard, I think that's more of an overall isue of toxic masculinity unfortunately.
totally agree on the classism aspect of people hating on acrylics, im personally trying to move away from them but ill never shame someone for using only acrylics because i have been, and still sort of, in that position where i can't afford the fanciest most sustainable fiber. plus the nondegrading aspects of plastic makes incredibly hard wearing projects! i don't think i'd ever make a blanket without some sort of acrylic or polyester content, because i can throw it in the washer and dryer and not worry about it.
Cheap wool doesnt cost more than acceptable acrylics where I am from and quality acrylics cost the same as mid level good wools, so I dont consider it a snob issue - acrylics just suck😅 You spend so much time on a project, just to end up with a sweater that changes drastically for the worse within a few uses. I remember as a kid when my grandma switched from cotton to acrylics and I began hating her homemade gifts. That said, I would never comment on what others do, I just dont use it or buy clothes made from it. I do use blends containing acrylics though, but I prefer polyamid or polyester.
It’s high-key classist
@@CoolStitches yesss exactly
I also started knitting in 2020 (as probably half the population during the lockdown boredom haha) and I so much prefer watching the instruction videos of people newer to knitting. They pay more attention to details that could he confusing but more experienced people do them automatically and don't even notice them. Love your channel!
This is a very important conversation to have and thank you for sharing!! It is so true and frustrating for BIPOC creators! Additionally, I didn’t realize how much “drama” there was in the knitting/crochet community 😭
Speaking as a knitter, i think the crochet community is is much more welcoming to beginners overall, whereas the knitting community has a subliminal air of pretentiousness. It’s upsetting because I dont want to believe thats the case but i cant help but catch that vibe :/
I’ve been knitting for almost 20years because I started young, but because of that most older people assume that I’m a beginner bc I’m in the older college age range and try to tell me what patterns to choose and etc. I’m a very advanced knitter and enjoy complicated patterns and even designing my own but I don’t want to publish them. I’ve designed them for my body. I also prefer a more unique English style. I hate the way continental feels.
You won't catch me doing that! I'm old - and find the younger people are more willing to update patterns or to add in necessary changes! I love the younger knitting people!
i'm 16 and i've been knitting for almost 10 years now (oh my gosh-) so i actually get a little taste of both sides of the spectrum. people often view me as a very inexperienced knitter because of my age, when i've actually been knitting (and crocheting) for a really long time. and personally, i'm completely against all gatekeeping apart from when it comes to corporations - i will gatekeep crochet and knitting from them all day long, they dont deserve it
Hi Lisa, I’ve noticed gatekeeping like this, for example when I was learning ballroom dance. I believe the “professionals” have often learned to withhold and meter out information in a way that enriches them in some way, and therefore resent newcomers sharing the knowledge for free. Thanks ❤
I loved how you pointed out so many aspects of gatekeeping in the community! For me as a guy knitting, although I have received some annoying comments, I mostly got a lot of positivity and appreciation from my surroundings. For me the biggest barrier for getting into knitting was that i couldnt find any nice, more modern patterns for my style and for my body type. So I have mostly just been knitting socks and stuff for female friends and my mum. Its great that there are people like you spreading inspiration and motivation in the community, thanks for that :)
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Hello Lisa and fellow yarn crafters, For what it’s worth, I think it’s wonderful that there are so many people of all genders involved in this craft. I don’t understand anyone wanting to spread negativity in any form 😢 We all began somewhere, it is irrelevant in my opinion, at what age you began your craft. Speaking for myself, I craft for enjoyment and relaxation. We are all at different levels, and that is the journey. With so much information and education available online, I feel incredibly fortunate and grateful. I don’t feel anyone has the right to judge anyone for their choice of the project or yarn 🧶 To continue your hobby/interest you have to work within your own budget. People that feel the need to express themselves negatively have their own emotional baggage, and I feel mostly sad for them, however I will scroll by and not feed the trolls. We are all entitled to our opinions, however just because something is someone’s opinion, it doesn’t make them right. I just stumbled across your channel today, and have subscribed to continue my learning journey. Thank you for everything you are doing. Craft on!! Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺
I started knitting in 2020 as well and put out my first pattern in 2022. It feels like a really short time in the grand scheme of things but because of everything being closed and I'd just moved to a new city, I was knitting for most of my free time. I think in some instances, people put a lot of undue importance on the years you've been knitting and see you as something of a charlatan when you try to put your designs/opinions out there. But the general response from the knitting community has been wonderful, and it always feels so incredible and validating to hear someone say they like one of my designs ☺
I didn’t start knitting until I retired from my work life. My local yarn shop has a warm inviting atmosphere. When entering the internet community the people pool becomes very large. The anonymity of criticizing brings out the nastiness in some people. I come to the internet looking to expand my skills and be exposed to patterns and yarns.
Exactly! My yarn shop was so welcoming but online is a world of anonymous faces and the grounds for people to show their nasty side
I knit and crochet. I have never seen a crochet snob...at least so far...in the social media platforms that I belong to. But there are a hell of a lot of knitting platforms that have snobs all over the place. Where I live there are 2 LYS...one is very welcoming and the other is like if you are not heading to the overpriced section then they don't want to help you.
I love wool, but I am on a limited income so I knit alot with aryclic yarn. Now if I was financially able of course I would live to knit more with expensive yarn! Who wouldn't if they could ?
But I never judge anyone for either choice, everyone has their own reason!
I hate that most patterns use super fancy expensive yarn and usually don’t include more inexpensive and accessible alternatives.
If you’re able to use ravelry, there’s a function to see what yarns people who have made the project use. Doesn’t always help in finding cheaper alternatives to the main yarn, but it can be helpful if there’s a large amount of projects. That said, you can just check what the main qualities of the yarn are, and find something that will behave similarly to make the project from.
@@personiguess2453 yeah I use those features. I’m more talking about how bigger pattern designers only ever seem to use expensive yarn in their patterns in the first place. Just an accessibility thing that I wish was more common! (Edited for clarity)
As "person I guess" said, it's really easy nowadays to go online, search for that yarn recommended by the pattern and see its composition, its weight/yardage, and then substitute for one that has the same weight/yardage and maybe also the same composition (or not, this is not essential).
@@irmar yes…and I do that. Perhaps I wasn’t clear bc the point keeps being missed. While the extra steps of finding yarn is not difficult, I personally wish it was more common for patterns to either use more accessible yarn in the first place, or list an alternative, inexpensive yarn. I’m my personal experience, this is rare. That’s all. I’m aware of the workarounds.
@@Grace-zd6ic I always use inexpensive alternatives for my knitting. I just swatch and try to get gauge with the yarn I want to use, while also keeping in mind the properties that knitted fabric has when made with yarn of various substances (more or less stretch, etc).
Knitwear designers often are sponsored by particular brands, so use their yarn in a given pattern.
I don't understand why you reason that a pattern should be written specifically for an inexpensive yarn (actually, Drops brand is quite inexpensive, and has a large pattern library). Do you really think someone who wants to knit will somehow allow the fact that there are few patterns written for acrylic yarn stop them from knitting, or somehow damage their self-esteem, etc?
I'm a 50+ yr old guy, and due to anxiety, was told to find something i can "zone out on" at the end of the day. I thought hey ill make a blanket so I learned how to crochet a simple blanket. That was a few years ago. Literally this last week I was wanting to start a project, when I picked up a circular needle and have been trying it... its SO much harder, but my goal is to be able to make socks (for now). I'm glad you brought up the gender issue because as a guy, it's a little weird, but I do enjoy it at the same time. Anyway this is the first of your videos I've seen, and just wanted to let you know that I enjoyed it, and found it very interesting.
Good luck with knitting socks! ☘
I am a 40 year knitter. I am always amazed by the makes of those that have been knitting for a few years. I think it is great. To try, take chances , have skills and find enjoyment. I only started socks. I don't do alterations for patterns as it never occurred to me. I learn so much from long time and new makers. Isn't that the point of a community? Help others and get inspiration, entertainment and inspiration. Great vid. I am now a subscriber.
the point about cost is so true. i'm finally in a position where i can afford to splurge a bit but especially larger projects like sweaters or blankets can add up really quickly.
I don't usually comment on videos but I definitely agree when you are a new knitter they advice from someone who is also new is generally more beneficial because they don't assume you know the basics! I hate when a video uses loads of abbreviations and I have to go look them up one by one or they skip over something because you should already know it. Love your videos and the Lucy and yak dungarees 😁
Not only that, but other beginners can caution about some mistakes they made just because there was nobody out there to explain to them how this or that is done. Sometimes they can point out how some things can be done easier than "the standard" method. And they're also more encouraging than "more experienced" people when it comes to making your own "whatever it is that you want to make".
I’ve been knitting, crocheting, sewing, and quilting since 1994. I can say for certain that the most helpful videos I have found are from new Yarnbenders (of the Fiber Nation, lol) because they know they don’t know everything, and they’re not so stuck in their ways that if a better/faster/easier/neater way comes along or hits their idea factory, they’re willing to try it out and share it if it works well.
I spent almost a decade only knowing the stockinette stitch because none of the old guard was around to help me figure out different stitches (and then the internet and video tutorials happened and now I’m knitting like a pro)
I'm really thankful for this video. I'm very fresh with sharing my knitting on social media so I haven't experienced the gatekeeping yet, but glad to know what is happening in the community. I'm actually seeking some nice knitting communites on the internet, but so far I've only found some fb groups in my native language and they are not very inclusive - even when a samll challange is annouced it's always addresed to women - it just annoys me very much when certain craft is genderised, so I left those groups.
I love your videos and I'm glad that there are knitters like you that talks about inclusivity. Thank you
I was just thinking about how different knitting and crochet are the other day. I've been crocheting for maybe 16 years, knitting for closer to 12 but from 20-28 I basically ONLY knit. Lately I've been only crocheting because it's just not as hard on my hands, and overall I find the community is younger and the patterns I find reflect that with their creativity and silhouettes. Many of them also knit&crochet which is cool. To me crochet feels a little more accessible online than knitting where I prefer to just go to Ravelry to search for knitting patterns. I think some of that is because crochet is so much faster. I do also wanna articulate that...I don't really engage in community when it comes to knitting&crocheting 🤷🏾 I generally don't consider it a community personally. I keep to myself and don't really participate in groups. When it comes to knitting patterns I have always just gotten the equivalent yarn weight in a price range that works for me. I haven't seen people shaming acrylic yarn, but I have experienced and heard about the difficulties that come along with using acrylic and those are legitimate. I find that craft stores have really inexpensive (like 3-5 dollars) cotton&wool yarns too. Like for me, I really don't like acrylic hats, so I prefer to use some kind of natural fiber. But like, a sweater is so expensive because of how much yarn it takes, so I use acrylic for those most of the time. I also still like yarn stores and always check for a close out/clearance section and I've gotten some really nice yarn for sometimes less than 50% of it's usual cost.
Interesting really. As a new knitter of one year, I think it’s great there are so many new knitters even on UA-cam!
Knitting community is growing fast in my country, Korea. I think the gatekeeping existed in offline knitting shops/cafe where they give out lessons, and maybe still. In Korea, there are private knitting licenses, but Vogue classes from Japan are expensive and popular. You need to complete teaching license to start your own Vogue class. I don’t intend to take any offline classes.
In general, I think knitting community is one of the nicest. Yet, some designers got quite upset when they thought others were copying or sharing their design, but i don’t think their arguments were all valid. You can’t exactly copy and sell same patterns but there can be similar designs.
Btw, Knitting is not that expensive if you get yarn in cones here, even if you get 100% wool in good quality. They are not plied so it’s a bit tricky to use.
I learned to knit when I was a child and have been for the past 40+ years. Gatekeeping knitting is just so bizarre to me, so I’ll share my thoughts (which obviously can be completely ignored).
1. Knit in the style that makes you comfortable. You’re not doing it “wrong” unless it’s causing pain or you’re not coming out with the intended fabric.
2. I think anything you want to knit is a great beginner project. More complex things will take longer to finish simply because you will be learning multiple new skills as you go. We are so fortunate to have a seemingly endless library of videos to access when we hit a new technique.
3. People who have recently mastered a skill are often the best teachers. They are still thinking through the steps.
4. Rude staff seems to be a long-standing tradition of the LYS, like surly waitstaff in NYC delis. Try not to take it personally.
5. Learn to grade a pattern. This is a huge gatekeeping area that really doesn’t need to exist. I know there are lovely people out there who have shared grading spreadsheets and tutorials. I don’t mean to absolve pattern designers from including a range of sizes. It’s a very useful tool for people who find themselves outside of size ranges, between sizes but want to stay true to the intended ease, or want to improvise their own garments to their measurements. (Also, ChatGPT seems to do a decent job here, but I don’t know if I’d recommend it to a knitter very new to the specific garment, e.g. first sweater.)
Happy knitting to all!
I think yarn hoarding is a big issue. I’m guilty of it, but lately i’ve been giving my friends who want to start my extra yarn to experiment with! They’ve made some fun stuff so far 😊
The size inclusivity is a pretty hot topic for me right now- I tweeted about it the other day. I think is is So messed up that there are COUNTLESS free tutorials for tops on youtube that are ALL for S or XS. And to get a bigger size you Have to buy the pattern. They don't even give you a vague clue of 'add stitches here' or 'this would be your X measurement. And when people ask about bigger sizes in the comments they just get a cold 'buy the pattern for bigger sizes'. So you are telling me I have to PAY for a pattern that is free to someone thinner ????? If you are making a free tutorial, make it free for EVERYONE. When this happened to me I was halfway through a butterfly top and I got so mad. I mean no hate to the skinny girlies- we love y'all- I just wish they didn't get preference.
I have been knitting and crocheting off and on for almost 60 years. I enjoy the diverse voices and perspectives that are currently available. Not all techniques or patterns appeal to me, but I do enjoy the creativity that is expressed. Keep it fresh, exciting and relevant to the times we live in.
I would consider myself a very experienced crocheter and a semi-experienced knitter and I like watching videos of all types! I like to watch videos of people just starting out because they have a wonderful excitement about the hobby that reminds me why i love it so much. But also I forget things and sometimes it takes a "beginner" to remind me! I think you are adorable and we are keeping the hobby of knitting and crocheting alive!! So don't worry about the negative comments.
Re:natural fibers vs acrylic fibers, I feel like there isn’t always a lot of nuance used. It’s always “if you use acrylic you’re destroying the planet, organic fibers are the morally correct option” or “if you don’t appreciate acrylic yarn you’re just classist and mean” when there are plenty of other things to consider. Personally, I find acrylic and cotton fibers absolutely vile 90% of the time. I would never condemn someone for using them, but my sensory issues are so bad some days that I can only touch rustic wool because it feels the least offensive on my hands. Acrylic is also super ugly and shiny most of the time, though there are some really nice ones that feel nice, stretchy, and soft without being shiny or uneven looking. However, this particular sensory issue of mine also applies to superwash wool, I hate the overly smooth feeling of it, it’s not very warm, and is usually either super cheap and ugly, or very expensive without most of my favorite qualities to wool. And some people do have a lot of accessible wool/natural fiber options but just feel like they have to stick to acrylic due to inexperience or dislike of commercially manufactured wool blend sweaters so they think all wool is itchy, or the fear that all cotton yarns will feel like dishcloth material, etc. But there are also people in countries with so little accessibility to any yarn, natural or manufactured, that it’s impressive to even find the materials to knit or crochet at all. I have many more feelings about this specific topic but it is incredibly difficult to type on iPad so I’m going to leave off here for now.
Thank you so much for sharing my video with size inclusive patterns Lisa ❤ and thank you for making this video. You are pointing out some very valid points here, let’s hope we can make the community more welcoming, inclusive and kind
Enjoyed your video as always. I have been knitting and crocheting for a long time. I learn a lot from following people like yourself. I now knit/crochet more modern designs, find new patterns, and am more up-to-date with what is available to buy. Thank you so much.
I have been knitting for almost 50 years, but started watching videos about knitting about two years ago. Since then I have learned so many new things, my horizons have been really broadened. Long time knitters, or long time doers of things, tend to, unbeknownst to themselves, get in a routine. Also, gate keeping creates after a while certain uniformity, which is boring. Sometimes it seems that the only difference between podcasts is in a color choice, as everyone is working on the same pattern, while making remarks about people living under rocks. So for me more variety is welcome.
This is a great topic and I think everyone feels this to some extent. I have been knitting for years and years, and there will always be those that are critical of a myriad of things, and they get stuck in their way of doing things where everyone else must be 'wrong'. I am loving the explosion of knitting machines like Sentro because it's breaking down the old snobby attitudes of "Machine knitters are not real knitters" Well I knit, crochet, spin my own yarn (on a spindle, tradition wheel, and electric wheels!), process my own wool, and I also weave. I own vintage sock machines, vintage flatbeds, and also proudly use my Addi and Sentro machines. So if I can make copious easy stockinette items (esp as gifts) and focus on my other crafts I am all for it. I also firmly believe that they make knitting more accessible, and look at all the new people who have been introduced to this amazing craft? Who cares if I am a "process knitter" or a "product knitter" I am both. I also just like making stuff I can wear or use or gift. Period. I just remind myself that people who gatekeep also miss out on all the other great things in life they must be gatekeeping as well lol.
I think these experiences are so interesting because I've had the opposite and not experienced any gatekeeping. I had no idea it was such a problem it's so sad thinking about beginners being put off :( I started in 2020 too.
I have been knitting for 53 years and LOVE new ideas, new knitters bringing a different perspective and new skills because they did not learn the way I did and share something I didn't know. I don't always learn how to knit a new skill, but I always love being around others that love yarn and knitting or crochet or any other yarn art for that matter and that they are willing to share it so that others can experience it and that needs many many types of people to ensure the art is not lost. I love new and old knitters and those who are highly skilled or not yet that highly skilled, it's great to be around all the people who share their joy of this connecting, community art ❤❤❤
Yes to a lot of these!! I make a lot of made to measure patterns, and I'm usually happy with the results, but my LYS has critiqued the patterns I follow a few times 😬and now I hesitate to shop there. I appreciate the help & insight on yarn use, but the project I envisioned usually turns out the way I wanted!
YES, I follow so many different knitters and crocheters from a broad spectrum. In one group on another platform I learnt about weighting knitted appendages and for people transitioning or post-surgery due to cancer or injury. Also how to resize knits to fit male chest shapes to make traditionally female styled clothing. There's no need for me to identify with someone who has had cancer or is transitioning if that is not my experience, but it is great to connect through our love of yarn and using it for whatever we want to create to bring joy, comfort and love.
I’m very blessed that my mother is teaching me to knit so I don’t truly have to deal with all the drama from other people.
Loved this episod!
And totally agree, however, I don't think the "malice" won't stop, there will be always somebody thinking is superior to others.
Years ago I ve started a channel sharing some baby garments tutorials and I loved every minute, I enjoyed to show step by step the process. Of course, some people loved it and some not that much, and I received a lot of bad messages but to be honest I didn't care. I new from the start that no matter how much I'll try there will be always somebody complaining about something.
We sometimes forget that we are not into some competition, and we just need to enjoy the process, the result and the comunity.
This is happening also with many knitting podcasts, there are groups and recommendations and sometimes I feel that some podcasters are taking advantage on it but, again, we can choose what we want to see and listen, and this is great.
I am also a budget knitter and yes, I would love to be able to buy popular yarns or hand dyed yarns and lots of silk mohair to combine! But I cannot afford it, sometimes I am saving 2-3 months to buy special yarns for a project and it is ok, however, when I see in some podcasts how less expensive yarns are banned, well, again, this is not ok and as always we can choose what to watch/listen or who we follow 😍
I so enjoy seeing youn people knitting and crocheting and I am amazed on how quick they are fall in love with the craft but also their beautiful result and how fast they are learning, it is a wonderful process to see it.
I know some guys that are knitwear designing and I love it, they have a beautiful and different vision about garments and I wish more of them to step out beacause their work is stunning.
Thrift stores is where i want to buy my yarn from. :p well, i already did. Ok, it wasn't enough for a garment, but for accessories, such as a hat, or scarf, or headband. who cares?
For more yarn, i can just get a knitted sweater, cardigan, or more [if they have] and take them apart to make something new. You can even find real wool or mohair or something nice this way. If i'm not mistaken , i found once a cashmere sweater that is used as is ;p
@@sapphirecamui6447 , true.
For some men it's the other extreme too. There's a very conventional looking guy from England who knits and it's a swimmer I think I forgot his name. Anyway he is loved an praised so much which is great! Men should be allowed to do this types of crafts as well but it's sad that only very conventional good looking people get accepted easily.
Thank you for your lovely video! I also experienced some things regarding crochet...I crochet for well over 10 years now and started to knit around 5 years ago. I use all the yarns I like, still trying to be sustainable. Some people tried to tell me that they knit and crocheting is so easy...everyone can do it...design stuff, etc. because it is so easy. As if you don't have to learn to crochet because it is just not difficult, especially for knitters (NOT TRUE). Just be nice and let others do their thing. Don't belittle someone's hobby/art.
I have been knitting for 20 years on and off, since I was about 10 I could knit slippers and scarves. I love watching and listening to ANYONE new or experienced talk about knitting hahahaha, I always learn somthing and also I just get to listen to someone else who loves yarn and crafting talk about it !!!
The acrylic thing sounds very classist to me. I live in the Philippines and both animal and natural fibers are just not accessible .If there's any, it is very expensive due to shipping and conversion. I use an indophil (acrylic) yarn which relatively feels nice to the skin and doesn't feel scratchy with my fingers. This is what is accessible to me. I can get a kilogram (2.2lbs) locally for just 420 pesos. That is a little over $8 USD. If I were to get an animal/natural fiber online, $10 USD is not even enough for a 100grams ball of yarn.
there's only really one local yarn shop in my area and I absolutely love it there, the owner is very sweet and kind, she gives me all kinds of advice and has never been condescending. She's also not the kind of yarn snob that tries to force me to buy expensive wool and mohair, any suggestions she makes for yarn for me, because I'm also young and still a student, are cheaper alternatives and only more expensive ones when I request them.
I don't think ppl are aware that it's needed for new information and new videos, content etc to be made all the time for the craft to continue. Why should I be confined to tutorials made 12 years ago? Sometimes a tutorial is very confusing and being able to find a new one that I understand better helps. But also the principle of continuity means new stuff needs to be here all the time. I love the crochet community so far and am currently working on making a pattern to share with ppl. We need new patterns as well! New aesthetics! Innovation!
I just found this. I was listing to the part about people telling you to knit or crochet at your level. I have ADHD and I tried knitting and crochet starting the usual way. Basic stitches and scarfs and hated it and failed time and time again. I started with outside beginner patterns and loved it and finally learned it quickly. So many people have given up because of it.
I don’t understand the continental vs English knitting debate. Who cares as long as people are knitting. I struggled to knit for ages because a lot of the how to books and videos I was coming across in English style and I just didn’t get it found crochet finally then found continental knitting by accident and it clicked.
The main thing knitting is for everyone and I have taught my students finger and French knitting and the calm and focus even my most hyperactive kids sit for as long as I let them.
firstly, I'm impressed that not only are you making garments after only 2 years but also designing. I learned to knit over 45 years ago, shown by a grandmother, then mostly self-directed from books etc, and I've only knit a handful of garments that need to fit (without swatching, mind), instead making scarves and hats (because, swatching >_
A little tip: if you have a tight budget, weaving yarns on a cone are super affordable and come in massive quantities.
I wish you'd inform us of HOW to choose those! I've tried, and am so confused! Where do you get them? What kind do you get that's acceptable for clothing? Help me, please!
@@DebbieHQ Holst Garn Supersoft is my go-to! The yarn is gorgeous and comes in many different colors.
Thank you! That's awesome to know. Since cones are measure differently, it's often hard to know which are acceptable to knit with! @@grape123
@@DebbieHQ of course! Holst Garn is around a fingering weight, I usually use 3mm-3.5mm when knit single, but you can easily double it up and knit it at a worsted weight:)
About the luxury yarn thing:
I totally get why some people don't want to knit with acrylics or commercial yarn, but I do not get why they need to say things like "No acrylic yarn will ever enter my house! 🤢" or stuff like that. That totally puts me off from watching their content. Just.. say you prefer the other yarn and let other people enjoy their time!
Also, why do some people need to recommend their expensive, limited, high quality, completely inaccessible to me yarns all the time? Like it's not that I would EVER be able to knit with it.. *cough* nutiden *cough*
I've been knitting since 2019. I have a couple of disabilities that effect my joints as well as my memory (learning new things). So I have only used a few stitches and haven't made a sweater, my blanket is a tortoise and the hare situation. I started crocheting and found it hurts my hands but I like it more. Currently starting a rug that is SC. Do what you want and what you can!
Interesting topic, loved your perspective! I've also experienced a lot of judgement towards vegan knitters, under every thread about vegan yarn substitutes you'll find some comments debating veganism or hating on acrylic/plant yarns.
I really enjoyed this video. I have knitted for nearly 40 years, but I think I am quite individual or maybe not in that I try to see people as a knitter first and age, race, gender second if you know what I mean. For instance I only learnt to knit socks last year, I've never knitted a shawl, I think you tend to knit items you enjoy more, like I love knitting baby items adult jumpers etc. I love to learn or see how others knit like continental, half the time I realise I knit a certain way but didn't know the correct term, like short row and regularly learn new things from newer knitters as you are quite right you see things with newer eyes and as a knitter of many years you can get stuck in knitting in certain ways. Also I am only just learning to crochet, after 40 years lol. I love watching knitting and knitters from all around the world, you don't need to speak a language to watch someone knit, but you can also be introduced to that culture, a bit like music. I love knitting and crochet it's brought so much to me from meeting people in person and around the world on the internet, it's quite universal and I just love how it brings people together and if I come across any negativity, well I just switch off! Something some people forget you can do! Knitting and crochet are my happy place, and I love to meet new people and new opinions, to still learn and expand my brain. I've learnt something from you today, and that's the term gatekeeping so old knitters can learn from newer knitters just like older people like me lol can also learn from younger people too. By the way although you age on the outside you still think young on the inside - or may it's just me 😀. Ps, sorry for the essay, maybe I could turn my comment into a book lol 😂😂😂😂😂
I haven't experienced any negativity from the knitting, looming, nor the crochet community directly/ indirectly. What I have noticed is that Mikey from the Crochet Crowd was getting a lot of negative feedback from his crochet viewers about his knitting content.
I knit mostly with acrylics and cotton, and I don't feel any type of way about using it for my knit-worthy friends and family. I do have other fibers, but I enjoy what I have and it is what it is.
I have been knitting for 10 years and crocheting for about 13 years. I haven't noticed anything going on in the "knit community" or "crochet community" maybe because I don't like social media, except for youtube.
I have noticed that knitters and crocheters (and their viewers) on youtube seem very nice and polite to one-another.
My only strange experience with either community was 2nd hand. A past boyfriend told me that his ex was a crocheter (and did not knit), and apparently she had told my ex that knitters are "stuck up, and think that knitting is better than crochet."
Personally, though, I have never heard a knitter say anything like that.
I do think you'd see it if you were in social media sites more often. It's prevalent and overwhelming pretty often there.
@@DebbieHQ Oh, interesting. I avoid social media as much as I can.
I should...but I'm one of the ones who's aways reading...that includes sm! But sometimes, I just have to tune it out. It gets to be too much! Vaca's are always good! :)@@heidih3048
i really love to listen and watch your videos while knitting. you are such an inspiration. so: potatos gonna potate.
i love your tipps and to me there is always something to learn in what you say. ofcourse there are always ppl wo are bitter about a lot of things so they cant be happy for your succes. but fuck that. you are loved and admired and going really wild for only knitting since 2020 😍😍😍
I agree with a lot of what you said in the video. I started knitting, crocheting and sewing when I was younger and often criticized for doing so.
You handled the gatekeeping comments so well! Wonderful. Great knitting as well. Thank you
Perfect timing. I've been looking for something to watch/listen to while I clean the kitchen and I love your vids. Thanks! (P.s. and yay for this topic!)
I really don't understand the Acrylic hate. I get knitting with wool is obviously the most authentic way to knit but as someone who's plant-based and doesn't use wool because of personal reasons I never understood it. Don't most modern knitters knit because they want to make their own clothes and are against fast fashion? Surely at that point the yawn you use shouldn't matter and if anything - from a sustainability stand point - surely Acrylic is better (yes, it's plastic but it that's a whole other debate). But beyond that the fact people focus so much on the type of wool people use really bothers me. As long as you're knitting with a type of yarn what does it matter?
i agree that it’s harmful that people nitpick over wool, but acrylic definitely is more harmful to the overall ecology of the planet. microplastics are endocrine disrupters and cause cancer. they’re a disaster without comparison for the environment (microplastics we’re just discovered in human breastmilk) and modern sheep NEED shearing otherwise they die incredibly painful, slow deaths. there’s absolutely major flaws with industrial sheep farming, but acrylic isn’t at all a sustainable solution.
Tbh mostly it's people getting overly upset over simple things like the "burning baby" issue and the fact that acrylic makes you sweaty and cold
@@Brynwyn123 It makes YOU sweaty and cold, not everyone else. Not your job to check the wallets of others in this hobby, do your thing and allow others to do theirs. It is people like you that drive folks away from loving these crafts and/or asking for help to go further.
My opinion on selling your products is that if someone else finds what you’re selling to be worth the listed price, it’s sort of silly to get upset about that. I’ve literally only just completed my first ever amigurumi project and I’ve already had people asking if I take commissions. Why would I wait an extra year to be Good Enough when others have decided I’m Good Enough now?
I started with acrylic and used it almost exclusively for years, because I started at 13 and didn’t exactly have much allowance money to buy yarn, and then I was a broke college student so I didn’t exactly have a lot of money to buy yarn lol. And then I just. Had my brands I liked.
It honestly wasn’t until I started making cat toys to donate to the local rescue that I branched out to cotton and hemp yarn because I wanted to make sure the toys were safe (in case the cats chewed on the toys and accidentally ingested some of the fibers, acrylic yarn won’t break down in the digestive tract and could cause an intestinal blockage).
Size inclusivity is such an issue! Some of my favorite patterns don’t include my size and it sucks, especially as someone newer to the craft. It does mean, however, that I’ve had to learn the hard way how to alter patterns and that’s such a useful skill to have and really stretches the brain! I really recommend awesome instructors like TLYarn Crafts, who is such a positive and welcoming energy that it is very encouraging. Have fun, learn at your own pace and make friends-is the best thing I’ve learned regarding fiber arts.
❤For the ones who don't like acrylic, I highly recommend trying Hobby Lobby's I Love This Yarn. It's the softest I've worked with. Also, every other week, all their yarn is 30% off. Next week is one of the weeks ❤
Weirdly as someone who has been knitting for a couple of years I still feel ‘new’ and when I see questions I am worried about posting an answer invade the way I do it is not the established ‘normal’ way 😊
Wow! I just found your channel, and so happy I have, I have been knitting for over 50 years and youtubing for almost 2 and because I have so much to learn about both! I am just having a tips and tricks series and it makes me happy that everyone likes to share their tips. Love your show! Cheers ♥ xx
Tbh since crocheting has become trendy a lot more people have gotten into it purely to make some money WHICH IS FINE obviously!!! But like I got bullied for crocheting in school;-; it sucks that now it’s trendy everyone is doing it only to make money rather than because it’s a sick hobby to have! But I always have encouraged people to crochet ! And taught people too!!
I think there is also some gate keeping around hand dyed yarns and LYS being only for knitters. As a Crocheter I love hand dyed yarns. I find online yarn shops to be much more accepting.
I start knitting at around 2014 and up until now I still feel comfotable to make something from a pattern rather than make my own pattern, and it's okay. I just want to knit for fun, not thinking about the math, shape, and all of that pattern making stuff. And I don't understand why people keep telling other people not to use certain yarn. A pretty yarn is quite expensive, so why we can't use acrylic to make something? Eventhough now I don't use 100% acrylic because of weather issue (it's too hot here, so I use cotton or cotton acrylic).
This reminds me of my first time, when i went to a yarn shop in a large market in Seoul where they sell yarn in packs and they’ve been knitting for over 30 years… (they don’t even need patterns or only use charts!) and i went when I had NO IDEA. They were nice and helpful but I didn’t understand much. (There is still so much to learn!) I didn’t go to the yarn shop where they sell packages at first so, haha.
The only reason I try to knit with wool is because it’s easier to not drop a stitch with it rather than acrylic. If someone can manage it good on them!
I plan to start crochet and have been watching videos ....I think there are enough of beginners,intermediate ,and advanced videos and websites to spread the wealth. No room for snobbery. Someone treats you badly, don't return to their website or storefront. People in general seem to feel it's easier to criticize rather than finding a compliment
Im a designer and one of the major problems is plagiarism. This can range from; someone was so inspired that they created something very similar, to straight up stole the photograph and sell a knockoff. It makes it a race to come up with new designs while also dealing with legality of stolen images. There is no patents on fashion design in the US, so we can't stop that front, which is fine, it also allows us as designers to be inspired by the same things as other designers. So to help with the plagerism, is to have photo documents, patent specific design clousures or fabrics and personalized logos or design concepts. Creators can use labels and watermarks with there garments in their photos and patterns. Don't have your garments outsourced in locations that are known to steal other designers works. Otherwise, take it as a compliment that someone liked it enough or thought it was valuable enough to steal.
I think the knitting and crocheting pattern plagerism will be best targeted by have a specific colorway or style incorporated into every design. That way if videos get ripped ( example would be natalie sideserf cakes are bright green buttercream icings or repeated pattern thats a logo). Maybe some of you can create a new stitch and use it in a specific location, like only in necklines, etc.
as someone who is allergic to wool, having that culture in the knit/crochet communities is afwul for people like me who cant really use animal fibers
This is something i've noticed is the lack of belief when younger people have been knitting for a long time. For example, I went to a local knitting convention and I was asked how long I've been for knitting by an older knitter. After I had told her that i've knitting been knitting for a decade, she proceeded to argue that i was lying because i was 16 at the time. I don't know if this is a universal experince but i just thought this should be talked about.
one difference i've noticed between the knitting and crochet community is pattern accessibility. a lot of people from the crochet community are very open to share their patterns and do tutorials, and while in the "knitting world" we have sites like drops and people who do tutorials exist, is not at the same same scope. now, i'm not saying that gaining money from your patterns is wrong, i just find it curious. is it because crochet is seen as lesser than? is it easer to pattern or something of the sort?
Going back to the acrylic yarn debate: there are plenty of people who prefer acrylic for various reasons- from veganism to skin sensitivity.
Personally, I cannot work with wool and other animal products due to allergies. This also means that I cannot wear said products. Does that mean I should never get into knitting because the "good stuff" is inaccessible to me?
This is also one of the main reasons why I crochet over knit- there seems to be less judgement for using acrylics
Yes this is very important to talk about! I just started the video but I'm very curious about your opinions. I'm also very new to the craft community (started a year ago) so gatekeeping really affects me & my work
I don't test knit because I don't like deadlines on my hobby. I understand that others like the early access. Skill level doesn't matter. The designer wants to know if the pattern is understandable.
To add onto the inclusivity point, I would love if patterns were more socioeconomically inclusive. It sucks to buy a pattern, only for the recommended yarn to bring the garment+pattern cost to $100 USD+. I reallyyyy appreciate patternmakers who offer yarn alternatives and even more so, I love when they test the pattern in a more affordable yarn so we can see what it looks like before investing in the pattern and the yarn.
Imo comments like that are coming from a place of insecurity. They must think they are not (or were not) skilled enough to teach others and are projecting that onto you.
I’ve been crocheting over 20+ years and I prefer watching the newer knitters/crocheters because they tend to bring new ideas to the game.
Glad I found your channel and look forward to watching more! 🧶
The only local knit/crochet group in my local area is bad about gatekeeping in several ways. First is expecting everyone to chip in for the paid space they use to meet when there are plenty of free spaces in town. The second is that they meet at a time that often only a retired individual wouldn't be at work. The third way is how they constantly criticize the use of acrylic yarns for any kind of project. The younger people and the new to the craft people typically only come to the group once before concluding that the group is not a good fit for them.
not amongst the fibre arts community online but in personal circles there is so much tension (pun intended) when you say you both knit and crochet or you're using a paid pattern or you splurged on well-known + expensive yarn etc - everyone needs to have a view on something whether positive or negative and when there is a hint of jealousy on their side that is when it becomes negative. I can't think of a single example of someone giving a negative critical comment that hasn't stemmed from envy!!! you did a fantastic job addressing a very difficult and touchy subject loving your videos as always