I love Capcom. They have updated their latest REs every time there's a significant hardware upgrade, and their Mac releases have been pristine. It's amazing how they went from being one of the shittiest devs in the PS3 era, back to being amazing just one generation later, to the vanguard of Japanese devs. The RE Engine is the gold standard.
It's just that people's standard and expectations have significantly fallen. What you said should be standard across all game devs. Being ok is the new "amazing" nowadays.
Just a couple of weeks ago I was praising Tom for his amazing job and I also stated that I find him one of the very best at Digital Foundry. Now, here he is with a 5 game analysis video, masterfully showcasing and explaining every mode in each game!
All people from DF are dedicated professionals. At first I didn't like Alex, but his knowledge about graphics amazed me and he won me over in the end :)
For resident evil or other closed spaces games yes, but when used for anything with more open spaces it is one of the worst engines currently, like Dragons Dogma, Monster Hunter or even that City map in Street Fighter 6
This was the first game I played on my pro and absolutely loved it . The graphics are amazing and the game play is superb. Was never a RE fan when I was younger but I will start buying all the games .
LMAO I play on a PS5 and LG C3 TV.. PS5 Pro is not needed. RE4 and SW DLC are Great. I've seen the Pro in person and I'm glad I didn't give Sony money for it.. I would have been PiSSed
@@RedPillAlways You overspent on a tv that isn't being utilized very well by the base ps5, the pro would instantly make that tv much more worth it. You don't need to be delusional to try and justify not having a ps5pro, it's a much better console, and these results prove just that
I wish I had the base model to compare, but I swear up and down that the resolution is crisper in most scenes. According to reset era, RE4 goes from 1520p on average to the full 2040p of the headset - and i fully believe them. The only limits to the resolution is the headset itself, since 2040p is actually low if you want clarity in the mid to far backgrounds in VR (but its perfectly clear in the foregrounds)
@@TheUdonnoodle reset era says they did. Some UA-camrs swear there is no difference. I swear there is. Wtf is DF doing not being the final word here? John. Where are u. Save us from the bad UA-camrs of the world
@@evangelistabjj You heard it here bros. The evangelist has evangelized the Truth. The Truth of PSVR2 on the Pro. The Truth that the Pro is the only Way to the Light. The Light of the World of VR. I also knew it, and knew I wasnt crazy. Shame on John for not covering this sooner. But that is alright, because we have come to know the Savior in our VR Lives. And it exists on the Pro.
Hey Tom, thanks for the in-depth analysis! Might want to give RE4 another look though since the rendering setup clearly changes to something that looks very much like PSSR when HFR mode is enabled. Evidence of this can be spotted in the opening sacrifice cutscene when starting a new game; there's visible aliasing on the woman's hair in a few of the shots that is significantly cleaned up when HFR is toggled on. The early cutscene where Leon encounters the first villager in the cabin also exhibits much less aliasing on objects like the pots and pans on the table or the back of the villager's head when he kneels in front of the fireplace. I've also noticed a strange smearing/blurring artifact when using the sniper scope that only occurs when HFR is enabled, further pointing to an upscaling solution being implemented in that mode. Almost certain it's PSSR since you can notice the telltale image instability that's commonly seen with this upscaler. Overall though I much prefer the image quality in the HFR mode and would be super curious to see what internal resolution it's running at.
I thought exactly this, it's obvious that in 60hz it's the same set up as before and activating 120hz switches to something like PSSR. Pretty sure Village as well only engages PSSR in 120hz and still uses the old render set up at 60hz.
@@SE-fq4gf I just tested Village and you're 100% correct. The behavior is the same as RE4, with HFR toggling on a different rendering setup that engages PSSR. Non-HFR mode appears to use the same checkerboard configuration found on base PS5. Strange implementation from Capcom, but we technically have some options to work with based on preference-at least when using a 120hz display since PSSR only seems available with HFR on. I also noticed that the HDR implementation changes drastically when switching between the standard setup and PSSR/HFR. To my eyes, it looks like we're getting almost crushed blacks with HFR disabled, with less visible contrast and detail in shadowed areas. Not an expert when it comes to HDR so unsure which setup is technically more accurate. Could also be related to my TV (LG C9) but it's not something I've experienced with any other game I've played since the PRO launch.
@JoeFenix yeah I noticed it straight away, I'm very surprised that DF did not catch this, along with PSSR artifacts in the Sniper scope and the obvious stutter in RE4.
I noticed the same in my own testing. In RE Village hub area with the 120 fps mode, if you look up in tree branches and move, you can see upscaling artifacts. In the 60 fps mode there are none. In RE4 in 120 fps mode, before entering the village area, there are small fog clouds near the ground, which also contain what seams like PSSR artifacts.
I have a feeling that developers are waiting for PSSR to become available for PSVR2, before working on PS5 Pro patches to really get the most out of it
I have an LG C1 65INCH OLED 120HZ gaming TV and I don't have those issues on the Series X nor my PS5 Slim. It has 120hz with 1MS, G-SYNC Compatible, FreeSync, VRR, ALLM Dolby Vision IQ, Dolby Atmos. It also depends on your TV hardware.
@@minners71 I have played it on PSVR 2 and it was great, but I prefer playing using my UST 4k projector onto a 100 inch ALR screen and a Dolby Atmos multi channel audio setup. I definitely find this way far more satisfying than playing in VR, especially when VR game uses reprojection, which both Village and Four Remake do.
that sounds cool but lets not forget in reality u are playing it just at 4k with upscaling without any RT cause what u got on the Consoles as an RT is Shadows and i forgot the 2nd one and Shadows req just more VRAM and the PS5 Pro has a lot of VRAM and the reason as to why u see PT/full RT on PC's only is cause they can handle it(very few) while on consoels if u do full RT/PT at max the game on console will crash
@@Jamic9totally agree mate. vr is a nice distraction for the kids, but a big 2d screen is the way to go for grown ups. just took delivery of a 77inch LG G4 tv. man it’s sweet. you setup sounds sic by the way.
Bought the complete series on Black Friday for my new PS5 Pro. Capcom is one the remaining traditional developers and i'm really exited to enjoy the games again after Silent Hill 2 Remake with the best possible fidelity! 👌
15:10 no, no 30fps cap, thanks. If a game struggles to hit 60fps then no problem, the Pro or the PS6 will solve it. If there's a 30fps cap, then nothing will make it suddenly go to 60 or 120. That's why we have the Bloodborne situation.
@@Nicholas_Steel Need a 120hz VRR TV to go over 60fps on a Ps5. Most casual gamers and households have 4k/60hz TVs. A locked 60fps without RT is fine for a $375 Ps5 slim.
@@lordspalse0062 I never ran into a game yet on the Ps5 that did not have a 60fps option over the 30fps option . 1440p/60 is better than 4k/30 anyday . Even 1080p/60 is better .
This is good news for all RE Engine games releasing in the future like Monster Hunter Wilds. The Wilds Beta was super rough on base PS5 so I hope the Pro console can take those worries at ease.
Played RE4 yesterday on pro resolution mode, hair strands, RT, HFR with VRR. Game looks amazing and runs smooth but boy is it pushing the hardware! After a few hours the fan really had to kick in as it was pumping out some serious heat.
This channel is the only place I've ever heard it suggested that flame weight caps are good, honestly. I was going to be more specific but just that whole concept.
"RE Village the only game to get PSSR upscaling, with core visual settings otherwise staying in place from the base machine. PS5 Pro runs at a fixed 1536x864 resolution which is reconstructed to 4K using PSSR in every mode - whether you have ray tracing enabled or disabled, or run at 120Hz or 60Hz. The result is respectable, though there is a trade-off when compared to the 4K checkerboarding method used on base PS5, which renders at a native 2160." I tested RE Village on my PS5 Pro and I'm surprised to learn the resolution on the Pro is so low. I did look good but it's somehow a step back compared to base PS5 mode. They need to give of the option to turn PSSR off or run the old modes also like Ubisoft did with Star Wars Outlaws.
That is a crazy improvement in IQ from 864p 😱 one of the best implementations yet at such low resolutions. I honestly thought it was still running at like 1440p+ upscaled to 4k
No they don’t. If the only reason you need that is because Digital Foundry showed you the numbers, then capcom did its job. It holds its framerate almost perfectly now while giving you a comparable image. This is in no way comparable to the dogshit job Ubisoft did with outlaws.
@@FungeHuckerExactly, thank you. Someone that gets it. If it took DF numbers for you to want some sort of patch then capcom did their job. The fact that you want a patch after a 2x zoom in is wild. And unlike a 864 patch like Alan wake 2, this holds 60fps, etc in its modes. You don’t need no damn patch.
@@shakecapo "You don't need no patch for your $700 console that somehow runs the game at a lower resolution than the weaker 4 year old console!" All this hoopla. Just get a damn PC at this point.
@@Essu_ what the hell are you talking about? That’s the whole point of an upscaler, just like a DLSS or XESS…lowered resolution while giving you better performance at a comparable image to the base res. If you don’t even understand that then maybe you shouldn’t be telling someone about PC gaming.
9:24 In this part I don't know if it was an error, but the effect of the hair is active together, making the FPS drop even more, it should be written up there.
@@cuprashoe right now no but it was never going to be as a hardware upgrade is bought for the future where I’m quite confident I’ll be more than happy with the purchase
@@cuprashoeabsolutely not. Outside of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, the upgrades are nothing special and some games are even downgraded. See Resident Evil 8 here. For the steep price of over $800 with the disc drive included, I’m now essentially a second class citizen when it comes to playing certain games. It’s ludicrous and I refuse to ever buy another Playstation after this.
Leon with dashing hair it's a necessity tho. It's specially better on cutscenes. That said, it should be turned off along with RT in the comparison indeed.
@@Mrbigkamkam I am disappointed too in this patch somehow because especially RE4 I wanted to play on the Pro. And then there is still checkerboard in 60 fps mode and no better settings. Like there is not anything visually enchanced for the Pro except that the Pro enchances this a little bit.
@flockelocke2297 you also gotta understand from one that’s Capcom and two what you are saying is that a lot of these developers are lazy when it comes to optimization A lot of them are going back to give a pro patch when they don’t necessarily have to if resident evil four was built from the ground up for the PS5 😢 and the pro we will be seeing a totally different game visually for the pro they just don’t wanna go back and make any changes resident evil 9 is gonna be the full capabilities of what the pro can offer visually because they don’t have to go back and do cross gen they can now just focus on the current hardware and optimizing the game, but if it’s anything like dragons dogma 2 that’s gonna be a problem
y the problem with PSSR compared to DLSS/FSR/XeSS is that with PSSR u don't have an option to turn it off and its mendatory for the PS5 Pro while DLSS/FSR/XeSS all 3 are options or an additionl boost to make t he game look better so Devs can turn it off/on if they like it
Would be awesome if they actually showed you guys the games for real. Not showing the results after the 120hz, VRR , ALLM and some TV’s built in AI upscaling(no latency) that’s REQUIRED for a PS5 Pro is so disingenuous and misleading. Frame counters and old measuring methods don’t apply to the Pro, it’s like saying here’s your birthday cake just ignore the fact I put no icing or deco on it…it’s truly sickening.
@@OldManGamingGuru I was messing with you lol. What I should've said was that they can't show most of that on a UA-cam video. You do realize that UA-cam processes videos a lot more differently than what it is shown on their TVs/monitors, right?
Nice! I do rather wish you’d included info about any improvements that might have been brought to the PSVR2 modes of RE4R and RE8, and if there are none then simply mention that as well.
Most vr2 games don't have pro patches as pssr isn't available for VR yet (next year). So it's the same as any unpatched game: more frames better dynamic resolution etc.
@@snarlynx1 Have you ever played VR? If you have you'd care, especially for RE games. You wouldn't want to go back to flat screen after VR Revil. It just seems very mundane.
@@froggydarren hey, well the game has traversal stuttering on all platforms, if you didn't notice those then you probably won't notice the other ones, there is like a camera stuttering, in chapter 2 at the beginning is easy to reproduce
I'm a PS5 PRO owner and i swear to God after watching this video i cannot belive the base resolution of RE8. Trust me, it looks incredible in my TV. Cleaner and smoother than the base PS5. Amazing PSSR implementation.
@@HardRockCafe-qt5ey yes I have to agree 👍 I was shocked when he says 860p I was like whhhaaat it looks great I think 🤔 that Capcom is using some newer SDKs for pssr to look this good on on such low internal resolution its really promising for the future.
Talking about internal resolution and upscaling the image is not the same as playing the game on said display resolution. Whole point of upscaling is to gain performance by lowering internal resolution while upscaling the image to seem higher resolution. Results do of course vary with quality of upscaler.
If you are use to low resolutions though, you wouldn't know very well over all. I played on PS5 since launch for years until building a PC. I had that mentality at the time that it was close to. I had to see it for myself to realize, oh damn. I remember playing AC Valhalla for hundreds of hours on PS5, thought it looked great. Built a PC a year later and booted it up on PS5 to see my build and thought, oh crap I was better off not knowing and just being ignorant. Metro Exodus looked like a PS4 title on PS5 as well. I never knew, until I knew. When it comes to graphics, resolution, and frame rate.. the highest you seen, is the highest to you, that is the top, and the best.
It is amusing that one of the two reasons many people were crying out for a PS5 Pro in the first place was to get away from games being upscaled to 4K from sub-1080p resolutions - the other reason being better framerates - but now we have games on the Pro that are still being upscaled from sub-1080p but now using PSSR, which has its own set of issues. It's not quite the win-win scenario I was hoping for. Instead of getting a more powerful machine that is capable of upscaling from higher resolutions, we are instead getting the same resolutions but upscaled using PSSR instead of FSR. Both upscalers have their issues, unfortunately. PSSR is not the magical one-size-fits-all that magically transforms all Pro games. It needs time for the AI to be trained and to adapt to the games. And, yes, I do own a PS5 Pro and my experiences so far have been mixed. First party games seem to fair the best but too many third-party games are looking worse than on base system due to PSSR and in many cases developers are removing the original modes from the PS5 version, which should never happen in my opinion. Ubisoft were the worse but they do seem to be backtracking by adding in the original modes and a PSSR on/off toggle (which is just as well as PSSR is still broken in Star Wars: Outlaws and Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora).
These results look great but man PSSR seems extremely taxing, that native resolution is extremely low even compared to base PS5, it still looks mostly the same but an option to use the old checkerboard rendering would be nice for people who prefer it.
So many bitter people. The PS5 Pro literally runs every RE game significantly better and people still complain. At this point Sony could give away the PS55 Pro for free and people would still gripe. Don't like it don't buy it. Simple.
@@vinniethegreat9645 To get a good experience, you shouldn't buy a 700,- PC. I mean, PS fanboys' number one argument is something like, "Stop being broke," isn't it?
@@smithsmithy7149ps exclusives take years to be on pc, and it’s also nice having a console that you use as a home entertainment system and can travel with much easier. I have the same thing
I'll be curious to see these comparisons ran again when the PS6 is released, I get the impression that a lot of these settings are about future-proofing the games for stronger hardware.
not sure I'd agree the PSSR implementation is passable here, that's a notable loss in image quality for something you can't turn off. Surely an option to simply run the base PS5 code with the game boost should've been available to tidy up some of those dips?
When you place it in real life it is not noticeable unless you stop , zoom in and look for it… there is a difference when you are playing from a tv screen some distance away from the couch…..When you played did you notice those so called blurry visuals yourself?
I played RE4 on ps5 pro and it run very smooth with 60fps locked. The only problem I got is missing textures and blurry, example : wall in some houses at the village.
Big RT? Are you kidding, right? All of these games use a light RT load compared to other PC games. Even if the console could reach the PC's maximum RT configuration (which it doesn't), it would still be a light RT.
@@Oversoulse7en so, it's not a game changer, a small percentage who have the pro can play on 120. While I guarantee there are more PC players who can play on true 4K/144 and above.
Remember when we used to enjoy games without thinking too much about resolution and fps !? We used to play games at 360p and 480 at 20 and 30fps, yet we enjoyed them so much
If you have a Pro you probably have a VRR screen too, that means that the 120hz Ray Tracing mode in Village ABSOLUTELY MAKES SENSE, just like all the other 120 Hz modes. You don't need CONSTANT 120 fps. Also WTF calling for a 30 fps cap when the game runs at like 50-55 fps... that's insane
would love to see if PS5 Pro enhances the PS4 VR Version very much with maybe higher dynamic resolution... on og PS4 it was very blurry. Also a shame they didn`t port it over to PSVR2 along with the native PS5 Version.
@@Crashed131963 If you get a crappy pre-build PC, maybe. But custom $700 PC will have $400-500 RTX 4060 Ti-level GPU and $150 i5-level CPUs, which is more than enough for an average gamer and going to completely another level with DLSS 3 supported games.
It's a shame that even with all the upgrades, motion aiming isn't patched in. And for the one that does have it, it really isn't ideal. 4 and 8's motion aiming has inertia and acceleration. It's fine on an analog stick, terrible for motion controls. It just makes it feel slower. Not to mention that you can't adjust the sensitivity for it. This is a tip for any developer adding motion aiming. Don't add in any system that you need to do for an analog stick look aim assist or acceleration. Like using a mouse, you just want the raw one to one input. With sensitivity sliders at least
@@kennypowers1945 the RE engine is very good, but works currently is not very optimised for any expansive games with open world (Dragon Dogma 2 and from what we've seen of Monster Hunter Wilds). This makes me a bit worried with how it seems RE9 will have an open world. But it very good for RE and games like street figher
@@johndrippergaming I mean, the sign has grades and specifically says gasoline. Oddly though, it doesn't actually say $/gal. (also omits fractional cents), so theoretically they could be bartering for 1.06 goats per bushel. But the game's clearly set in 'murica, so I went with $/gal.
Glad to know the RT runs much faster on the PS5 Pro, but is it still visually broken though?… While playing RE 2-3-4 on PC, I preferred disabling it altogether for how noisy it was…
I wonder what exactly is the state of pssr, some games have it all broken almost, but then capcom manages to deploy it with sub 1080 upscaling to 4k with pretty good results in my oponion. Sony might need to setp in and lay some sort of minimum qa test to make sure the game can be released with pssr.
I love Capcom. They have updated their latest REs every time there's a significant hardware upgrade, and their Mac releases have been pristine. It's amazing how they went from being one of the shittiest devs in the PS3 era, back to being amazing just one generation later, to the vanguard of Japanese devs. The RE Engine is the gold standard.
Thats why I cant wait to see what RE9 looks like
RE engine is amazing in resi games but sucks major ass in games like Dragon Dogma 2 and the upcoming Monster Hunter Wilds.
Its great in DMC 5 though.. devil may cry 5 is so colorful and a much better game in graphics than even RE3 remake @@ricklubbers1526
Unless it's non linear games like DD2 and MH Wilds
It's just that people's standard and expectations have significantly fallen. What you said should be standard across all game devs. Being ok is the new "amazing" nowadays.
Just a couple of weeks ago I was praising Tom for his amazing job and I also stated that I find him one of the very best at Digital Foundry.
Now, here he is with a 5 game analysis video, masterfully showcasing and explaining every mode in each game!
All people from DF are dedicated professionals. At first I didn't like Alex, but his knowledge about graphics amazed me and he won me over in the end :)
The one upgrade resident evil 7 is missing on PS5 pro is support for PSVR2.
Psvr 2 is dead from begging
😂 I bet that would be great when you're being chased in the house
@@yournightmare9999 Not really. PSVR2 is selling really well this year after the discounts.
@@yournightmare9999 buy a dictionary, the word is beginning. and check out a flat game for you called fornite.
@@yournightmare9999 Wrong
RE engine is the gift that keeps on giving.
Can’t wait to see what Onimusha way of the sword will show off in 2026
For resident evil or other closed spaces games yes, but when used for anything with more open spaces it is one of the worst engines currently, like Dragons Dogma, Monster Hunter or even that City map in Street Fighter 6
@@quickupload3675Stalker 2 black myth wukong 💀
RE4 Remake at 120 goes hard
Like stale bread?
Looks way better with high frame rate mode off honestly and still well over 60fps… and this applies to just about all Pro patched games.
$700 hard lmao
xbox players after GOTY nominations now crying even more haha 😂
@@chubbs6504 try getting that frame rate with a $700 pc
I noticed in re4 that if you use the hair feature and RT, it will reduce the framerate, but if you take them off, you get the full 120fps.
yeah, the guy should have tested without the hair feature. the 8-10% fps loss for nothing to show for it is just not worth it.
@balazstoth7061 he literally did
@@balazstoth7061watch again with two eyes.
if you have a VRR capable display it really doesn't matter, it plays very smooth.
Also if you disable depth of field you get at least 5 fps back
This was the first game I played on my pro and absolutely loved it . The graphics are amazing and the game play is superb. Was never a RE fan when I was younger but I will start buying all the games .
Been replaying all of these on PS5 pro. Great way to play the separate ways DLC!
The wait for RE9 is torture, but I am tempted to replay RE2R and RE3R on the pro
LMAO
I play on a PS5 and LG C3 TV..
PS5 Pro is not needed.
RE4 and SW DLC are Great. I've seen the Pro in person and I'm glad I didn't give Sony money for it.. I would have been PiSSed
where's the rt in these? when they say RT they mean RT reflection only?
@@RedPillAlwaysIts better on the Pro
@@RedPillAlways You overspent on a tv that isn't being utilized very well by the base ps5, the pro would instantly make that tv much more worth it. You don't need to be delusional to try and justify not having a ps5pro, it's a much better console, and these results prove just that
Wonder how this affects PSVR2…
I wish I had the base model to compare, but I swear up and down that the resolution is crisper in most scenes. According to reset era, RE4 goes from 1520p on average to the full 2040p of the headset - and i fully believe them. The only limits to the resolution is the headset itself, since 2040p is actually low if you want clarity in the mid to far backgrounds in VR (but its perfectly clear in the foregrounds)
@@cronoesifydid the game make use of dynamic resolution? Because that might be the case if so.
@@TheUdonnoodle reset era says they did. Some UA-camrs swear there is no difference. I swear there is.
Wtf is DF doing not being the final word here? John. Where are u. Save us from the bad UA-camrs of the world
@@cronoesify I have both (still havent sold my base ps5) and can confirm the resolution is better.
@@evangelistabjj You heard it here bros. The evangelist has evangelized the Truth. The Truth of PSVR2 on the Pro. The Truth that the Pro is the only Way to the Light. The Light of the World of VR.
I also knew it, and knew I wasnt crazy. Shame on John for not covering this sooner. But that is alright, because we have come to know the Savior in our VR Lives.
And it exists on the Pro.
Love that you covered *all* the RE games, Tom-thank you!
Hey Tom, thanks for the in-depth analysis! Might want to give RE4 another look though since the rendering setup clearly changes to something that looks very much like PSSR when HFR mode is enabled. Evidence of this can be spotted in the opening sacrifice cutscene when starting a new game; there's visible aliasing on the woman's hair in a few of the shots that is significantly cleaned up when HFR is toggled on. The early cutscene where Leon encounters the first villager in the cabin also exhibits much less aliasing on objects like the pots and pans on the table or the back of the villager's head when he kneels in front of the fireplace.
I've also noticed a strange smearing/blurring artifact when using the sniper scope that only occurs when HFR is enabled, further pointing to an upscaling solution being implemented in that mode. Almost certain it's PSSR since you can notice the telltale image instability that's commonly seen with this upscaler. Overall though I much prefer the image quality in the HFR mode and would be super curious to see what internal resolution it's running at.
I thought exactly this, it's obvious that in 60hz it's the same set up as before and activating 120hz switches to something like PSSR.
Pretty sure Village as well only engages PSSR in 120hz and still uses the old render set up at 60hz.
@@SE-fq4gf I just tested Village and you're 100% correct. The behavior is the same as RE4, with HFR toggling on a different rendering setup that engages PSSR. Non-HFR mode appears to use the same checkerboard configuration found on base PS5.
Strange implementation from Capcom, but we technically have some options to work with based on preference-at least when using a 120hz display since PSSR only seems available with HFR on. I also noticed that the HDR implementation changes drastically when switching between the standard setup and PSSR/HFR. To my eyes, it looks like we're getting almost crushed blacks with HFR disabled, with less visible contrast and detail in shadowed areas. Not an expert when it comes to HDR so unsure which setup is technically more accurate. Could also be related to my TV (LG C9) but it's not something I've experienced with any other game I've played since the PRO launch.
@JoeFenix yeah I noticed it straight away, I'm very surprised that DF did not catch this, along with PSSR artifacts in the Sniper scope and the obvious stutter in RE4.
I noticed the same in my own testing. In RE Village hub area with the 120 fps mode, if you look up in tree branches and move, you can see upscaling artifacts. In the 60 fps mode there are none.
In RE4 in 120 fps mode, before entering the village area, there are small fog clouds near the ground, which also contain what seams like PSSR artifacts.
So as someone with a ps5 pro, what settings do you recommend for Re4r please?
Been looking forward to this video. My favorite settings are 120hz mode and RT on, hair off. Hitting average of high 80s fps.
PSVR2 upgrade ;(?
Hear hear. Disappointed when i booted it up in VR... Still a stuttery affair. GT7 showed how it should be done
Hopefully Capcom
Sort it out
I have a feeling that developers are waiting for PSSR to become available for PSVR2, before working on PS5 Pro patches to really get the most out of it
RE4 got a massive resolution boost in VR. Village is most likely the same
Psvr 2 already death from begging
Really wish Capcom had given it the PSVR2 treatment GT7 did. That new reprojection algorithm is amazing.
PSVR2 improvements?
It’s exactly the same, back to back testing
So that unit get any live... I always see yall begging
I was also really wondering about this, for both Village and RE4…
I have an LG C1 65INCH OLED 120HZ gaming TV and I don't have those issues on the Series X nor my PS5 Slim. It has 120hz with 1MS, G-SYNC Compatible, FreeSync, VRR, ALLM Dolby Vision IQ, Dolby Atmos. It also depends on your TV hardware.
Man that C1 is old, sold it and got the G4 much better and MLA is chef’s kiss.
864p to 4k? Isn't that too aggressive?
Yeah not even native 1080p sounds disgusting
The new Indiana Jones game engine plays at native 1800p/60 fps with RT on.
This game is broken not the console .
Get a PC if you want real gaming.
@@pasullicaI didn’t realise this whole time I was fake gaming 🤦
@@pasullicaThe Ps5 pro is better than your pc, and cheaper
2:58 why does PS5 look sharper
Noticed that as well
@cMARVEL360 he said PS5 Pro is 800p upscaled to 2160p via PSSR across every mode but the base PS5 is native 2160 🥺
@@horrorjunkie96 Base PS5 is checkerboard 4K
Because base ps5 is way better
@@horrorjunkie96 Not native.
Been playing Village on my Pro with RT and it's absolutely brilliant. Love the Pro.
Even better on PSVR2 the flat version is boring.
@@minners71 I have played it on PSVR 2 and it was great, but I prefer playing using my UST 4k projector onto a 100 inch ALR screen and a Dolby Atmos multi channel audio setup. I definitely find this way far more satisfying than playing in VR, especially when VR game uses reprojection, which both Village and Four Remake do.
Hopefully they update PSVR2 versions for Pro. Totally agreed! Flat versions of RE are utter pants after being spoiled by VR.
that sounds cool but lets not forget in reality u are playing it just at 4k with upscaling without any RT cause what u got on the Consoles as an RT is Shadows and i forgot the 2nd one and Shadows req just more VRAM and the PS5 Pro has a lot of VRAM and the reason as to why u see PT/full RT on PC's only is cause they can handle it(very few) while on consoels if u do full RT/PT at max the game on console will crash
@@Jamic9totally agree mate. vr is a nice distraction for the kids, but a big 2d screen is the way to go for grown ups. just took delivery of a 77inch LG G4 tv. man it’s sweet. you setup sounds sic by the way.
Any info on the VR version?
Think Tom has my fav DF speaking cadence.
It’s between Olie and Tom for me
Naaah lisp and tongue dancing all the time bo no no . John is the best
@whitewolf1054 The lisp is what makes his voice satisfying to listen to, it’s kinda asmr-ish to me
To each their own
Awesome episode!
What about PSVR2 is there any improvement
Bought the complete series on Black Friday for my new PS5 Pro. Capcom is one the remaining traditional developers and i'm really exited to enjoy the games again after Silent Hill 2 Remake with the best possible fidelity! 👌
15:10 no, no 30fps cap, thanks. If a game struggles to hit 60fps then no problem, the Pro or the PS6 will solve it. If there's a 30fps cap, then nothing will make it suddenly go to 60 or 120. That's why we have the Bloodborne situation.
Could've had a 30 and a 40 cap (120Hz for 40).
@@Nicholas_Steel Need a 120hz VRR TV to go over 60fps on a Ps5.
Most casual gamers and households have 4k/60hz TVs.
A locked 60fps without RT is fine for a $375 Ps5 slim.
Anyone at this stage who buys a console game with a locked 30 fps only option is a fool of the highest order.
@@lordspalse0062 I never ran into a game yet on the Ps5 that did not have a 60fps option over the 30fps option .
1440p/60 is better than 4k/30 anyday .
Even 1080p/60 is better .
@ That I absolutely agree with
This is good news for all RE Engine games releasing in the future like Monster Hunter Wilds. The Wilds Beta was super rough on base PS5 so I hope the Pro console can take those worries at ease.
2:08 it looks like someone already has a review copy of Kingdom Comes Deliverance II
Great video as Always !
Looks like Village lacks the DOF effect on PS5 PRO at 4:15 time.
I have a 4k 120hz tv with VRR so playing re 4 remake and re village with the 120fps mode, resolution, and raytracing on is amazing with a VRR display.
Played RE4 yesterday on pro resolution mode, hair strands, RT, HFR with VRR. Game looks amazing and runs smooth but boy is it pushing the hardware! After a few hours the fan really had to kick in as it was pumping out some serious heat.
Has the VR Mode also improved?
This channel is the only place I've ever heard it suggested that flame weight caps are good, honestly. I was going to be more specific but just that whole concept.
What about PlaystationVR?
Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.
Really enjoying the Pro coverage guys great job
Cover the new The Finals PS5 pro patch and new 120 Hz mode for base consoles
I play resident evil only in vr.
Is there any benefit for psvr2?
"RE Village the only game to get PSSR upscaling, with core visual settings otherwise staying in place from the base machine. PS5 Pro runs at a fixed 1536x864 resolution which is reconstructed to 4K using PSSR in every mode - whether you have ray tracing enabled or disabled, or run at 120Hz or 60Hz. The result is respectable, though there is a trade-off when compared to the 4K checkerboarding method used on base PS5, which renders at a native 2160."
I tested RE Village on my PS5 Pro and I'm surprised to learn the resolution on the Pro is so low. I did look good but it's somehow a step back compared to base PS5 mode.
They need to give of the option to turn PSSR off or run the old modes also like Ubisoft did with Star Wars Outlaws.
That is a crazy improvement in IQ from 864p 😱 one of the best implementations yet at such low resolutions. I honestly thought it was still running at like 1440p+ upscaled to 4k
No they don’t. If the only reason you need that is because Digital Foundry showed you the numbers, then capcom did its job. It holds its framerate almost perfectly now while giving you a comparable image. This is in no way comparable to the dogshit job Ubisoft did with outlaws.
@@FungeHuckerExactly, thank you. Someone that gets it. If it took DF numbers for you to want some sort of patch then capcom did their job. The fact that you want a patch after a 2x zoom in is wild. And unlike a 864 patch like Alan wake 2, this holds 60fps, etc in its modes. You don’t need no damn patch.
@@shakecapo "You don't need no patch for your $700 console that somehow runs the game at a lower resolution than the weaker 4 year old console!"
All this hoopla. Just get a damn PC at this point.
@@Essu_ what the hell are you talking about? That’s the whole point of an upscaler, just like a DLSS or XESS…lowered resolution while giving you better performance at a comparable image to the base res. If you don’t even understand that then maybe you shouldn’t be telling someone about PC gaming.
Yessss, been waiting on this!!!!!!
I was worried because there was no ps5 pro video for a while. Glad you're okay lol
Still waiting on HZD: Remastered Pro coverage like John said...
9:24
In this part I don't know if it was an error, but the effect of the hair is active together, making the FPS drop even more, it should be written up there.
Nice of Tom to bring us PRO owners good news in time for the weekend 👍🙂
Did you have the base PS5? If so is it worth the upgrade?
@@cuprashoe right now no but it was never going to be as a hardware upgrade is bought for the future where I’m quite confident I’ll be more than happy with the purchase
@@cuprashoeabsolutely not. Outside of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, the upgrades are nothing special and some games are even downgraded. See Resident Evil 8 here. For the steep price of over $800 with the disc drive included, I’m now essentially a second class citizen when it comes to playing certain games. It’s ludicrous and I refuse to ever buy another Playstation after this.
Im very sad that VR version dont upgraded..
Pssr is coming to vr2 next year.
did you really keep the hair feature on while testing the hfr mode for re4r? That shit takes like 10 fps while doesnt give anything in return.
Ummm it literally gives better hair duh
Sucks that the PS5 can't handle it.
Leon with dashing hair it's a necessity tho. It's specially better on cutscenes. That said, it should be turned off along with RT in the comparison indeed.
So does this affect the VR versions?
Why no native 4K or a very high resolution at 60hz on Pro? Weird choice and a step back from PS5 60fps RT off.
I so agree with you. I don’t want to play with my ps5 pro when I see things like that.
@@Mrbigkamkam I am disappointed too in this patch somehow because especially RE4 I wanted to play on the Pro. And then there is still checkerboard in 60 fps mode and no better settings. Like there is not anything visually enchanced for the Pro except that the Pro enchances this a little bit.
@flockelocke2297 you also gotta understand from one that’s Capcom and two what you are saying is that a lot of these developers are lazy when it comes to optimization A lot of them are going back to give a pro patch when they don’t necessarily have to if resident evil four was built from the ground up for the PS5 😢 and the pro we will be seeing a totally different game visually for the pro they just don’t wanna go back and make any changes resident evil 9 is gonna be the full capabilities of what the pro can offer visually because they don’t have to go back and do cross gen they can now just focus on the current hardware and optimizing the game, but if it’s anything like dragons dogma 2 that’s gonna be a problem
Okay so my question is, is it better to run village with ray tracing at 120 or is it better to run it locked at 60?
No support for PSVR2 !?
YEAH I HAVE TO AGREE YOU HAVE TO TURN OFF RAY TRACING OFF TO GIVE YOU THAT FRAME RATE BOOST
Tell me you guys tested the PSV2 versions seeing how they are the DEFINITIVE way to play this game?!
y the problem with PSSR compared to DLSS/FSR/XeSS is that with PSSR u don't have an option to turn it off and its mendatory for the PS5 Pro while DLSS/FSR/XeSS all 3 are options or an additionl boost to make t he game look better so Devs can turn it off/on if they like it
I don't even own a PS5 Pro but you can bet I watch any and all videos instantly. Can't imagine my life before Digital Foundry anymore lol
Would be awesome if they actually showed you guys the games for real. Not showing the results after the 120hz, VRR , ALLM and some TV’s built in AI upscaling(no latency) that’s REQUIRED for a PS5 Pro is so disingenuous and misleading. Frame counters and old measuring methods don’t apply to the Pro, it’s like saying here’s your birthday cake just ignore the fact I put no icing or deco on it…it’s truly sickening.
@@OldManGamingGuru You're basically asking them to give you an uncooked cake for your birthday without candles. That's already sickening right there.
@ huh? What are you attempting to say?
@@OldManGamingGuru I was messing with you lol. What I should've said was that they can't show most of that on a UA-cam video. You do realize that UA-cam processes videos a lot more differently than what it is shown on their TVs/monitors, right?
@ 😂😂oh I know that’s why they stopped John from showing the truth with his off screen vids…
Nice! I do rather wish you’d included info about any improvements that might have been brought to the PSVR2 modes of RE4R and RE8, and if there are none then simply mention that as well.
Playing re2r at 120fps makes the knife attack alot stronger since the knife damage is directly tied to the FPS.
lol seriously? That would truly be idiocy…
So which version should you play? The answer is the VR version. Nothing compares.
ZERO MENTION OF VR2, AS USUAL ON THIS CHANNEL.
Because no one but you cares
@@snarlynx1well at least he and I care 🤚🏻
@@snarlynx1
I Care as Well
Most vr2 games don't have pro patches as pssr isn't available for VR yet (next year). So it's the same as any unpatched game: more frames better dynamic resolution etc.
@@snarlynx1 Have you ever played VR? If you have you'd care, especially for RE games. You wouldn't want to go back to flat screen after VR Revil. It just seems very mundane.
Am I the only one who noticed some weird stuttering happening on RE4 Remake? Not the traversal ones, I'm on ps5 pro
Cleared it twice on pro and no stutters my end 🤷
@SE-fq4gf I run a 8k VRR TV so it's just smooth as butter 🤷
@@froggydarren hey, well the game has traversal stuttering on all platforms, if you didn't notice those then you probably won't notice the other ones, there is like a camera stuttering, in chapter 2 at the beginning is easy to reproduce
I'm a PS5 PRO owner and i swear to God after watching this video i cannot belive the base resolution of RE8. Trust me, it looks incredible in my TV. Cleaner and smoother than the base PS5. Amazing PSSR implementation.
@@HardRockCafe-qt5ey yes I have to agree 👍 I was shocked when he says 860p I was like whhhaaat it looks great I think 🤔 that Capcom is using some newer SDKs for pssr to look this good on on such low internal resolution its really promising for the future.
Talking about internal resolution and upscaling the image is not the same as playing the game on said display resolution. Whole point of upscaling is to gain performance by lowering internal resolution while upscaling the image to seem higher resolution. Results do of course vary with quality of upscaler.
@@valonfazlija889dang I played the whole game on series x and it was no where close to even 1080p lol. It was MUCH higher
Village puts Jedi Survivor and Alan Wake to shame which use similar low base resolution and Capcom shows it can be done.
If you are use to low resolutions though, you wouldn't know very well over all. I played on PS5 since launch for years until building a PC. I had that mentality at the time that it was close to. I had to see it for myself to realize, oh damn. I remember playing AC Valhalla for hundreds of hours on PS5, thought it looked great. Built a PC a year later and booted it up on PS5 to see my build and thought, oh crap I was better off not knowing and just being ignorant. Metro Exodus looked like a PS4 title on PS5 as well. I never knew, until I knew. When it comes to graphics, resolution, and frame rate.. the highest you seen, is the highest to you, that is the top, and the best.
Max everything out with HFR on, turn on VRR and enjoy 60fps+ goodness with amazing visuals. Finally!!!!!
It is amusing that one of the two reasons many people were crying out for a PS5 Pro in the first place was to get away from games being upscaled to 4K from sub-1080p resolutions - the other reason being better framerates - but now we have games on the Pro that are still being upscaled from sub-1080p but now using PSSR, which has its own set of issues. It's not quite the win-win scenario I was hoping for.
Instead of getting a more powerful machine that is capable of upscaling from higher resolutions, we are instead getting the same resolutions but upscaled using PSSR instead of FSR. Both upscalers have their issues, unfortunately. PSSR is not the magical one-size-fits-all that magically transforms all Pro games. It needs time for the AI to be trained and to adapt to the games.
And, yes, I do own a PS5 Pro and my experiences so far have been mixed. First party games seem to fair the best but too many third-party games are looking worse than on base system due to PSSR and in many cases developers are removing the original modes from the PS5 version, which should never happen in my opinion. Ubisoft were the worse but they do seem to be backtracking by adding in the original modes and a PSSR on/off toggle (which is just as well as PSSR is still broken in Star Wars: Outlaws and Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora).
Your post is a wake-up call to the idiots buying ps5 pro for increased resolution from the base ps5
The Pro is a beast 💪 💪
Lmao😂
Pro is overrated, the base PS5 is more than capable.
@@Adamtendo_player_1 The Pro is just so good, I could never go back to just the base console.
I’d still like a Pro patch for Resi 2 and 3 to unlock HFR 120 mode and RT. Would be great on a VRR panel.
Yeah, exactly!
These results look great but man PSSR seems extremely taxing, that native resolution is extremely low even compared to base PS5, it still looks mostly the same but an option to use the old checkerboard rendering would be nice for people who prefer it.
Nope
Capcom needs to add the option on Pro to play the base spec modes also back. Base PS5 was running RE8 at nearly native 4k @ 60fps.
@@electrikoptik I wouldn't call half "nearly". If you're going for CBR it's half the pixels. Still alot more than 864p though.
@@PepGuard-tp4nyyep
Native 864 or whatever is appalling. It’s 2024. These videos are why the pro is worth waiting for.
Locked 60fps with RT.
Locked 120fps without RT.
I'm in.
But 120 fps colors washed out , what i do wrong , i use c1 Oled whit ps5pro
So many bitter people. The PS5 Pro literally runs every RE game significantly better and people still complain. At this point Sony could give away the PS55 Pro for free and people would still gripe. Don't like it don't buy it. Simple.
Keep coping
@@zerosam5541 To busy enjoying my PS5 Pro
These games run better and look better on PC, PS5 Pro is a waste of money.
@ not on a $700 pc they don’t. I played on PC for years.
@@vinniethegreat9645 To get a good experience, you shouldn't buy a 700,- PC. I mean, PS fanboys' number one argument is something like, "Stop being broke," isn't it?
Where is SF6 update for pro?
Having a high end PC and PS5 pro is the best thing that can happen
Why would you need a PS5 Pro if you have a high end PC?
@@smithsmithy7149ps exclusives take years to be on pc, and it’s also nice having a console that you use as a home entertainment system and can travel with much easier. I have the same thing
@@smithsmithy7149I have the same. PS5 Pro and $3500 PC
@@smithsmithy7149 he does not have one ps fanboy keep pretensing to own a high end pc
@@smithsmithy7149 well in my case, PS5 Pro for GT7 VR and exclusives, PC for everything else.
I'll be curious to see these comparisons ran again when the PS6 is released, I get the impression that a lot of these settings are about future-proofing the games for stronger hardware.
not sure I'd agree the PSSR implementation is passable here, that's a notable loss in image quality for something you can't turn off. Surely an option to simply run the base PS5 code with the game boost should've been available to tidy up some of those dips?
When you place it in real life it is not noticeable unless you stop , zoom in and look for it… there is a difference when you are playing from a tv screen some distance away from the couch…..When you played did you notice those so called blurry visuals yourself?
@@SE-fq4gf ah okay, must've just misinterpreted the vid, thought I heard him say PSSR seems enabled by default in all modes! my bad.
I played RE4 on ps5 pro and it run very smooth with 60fps locked. The only problem I got is missing textures and blurry, example : wall in some houses at the village.
864p in RE8 Village is ridiculously low.
If they keep this up playing games on the Pro is going to to in many cases look worse than the base model.
It change something for vr users?
Big RT? Are you kidding, right? All of these games use a light RT load compared to other PC games. Even if the console could reach the PC's maximum RT configuration (which it doesn't), it would still be a light RT.
"looks at spiderman 2" ok baby bvh pc player
Capcom showing how it's done.
Are they, though?
RE4 on the Pro everything maxed is a game changer.
*for console players
@@weirdscix The difference is every PS5 Pro owner can enjoy RE4 on max settings but only a small percentage of PC gamer can do this.
@@weirdscix *Everyone playing Resi 4 on PS Pro can play at 120Hz. But not everyone playing on PC can ;)
@@Oversoulse7en so, it's not a game changer, a small percentage who have the pro can play on 120. While I guarantee there are more PC players who can play on true 4K/144 and above.
@@electrikoptik I have both PS5 and PC and obviously prefer my PC..... But that was a brilliant response!!! 😂🏆
Awesome, more games we all played 150 times over. Amazing console.
Remember when we used to enjoy games without thinking too much about resolution and fps !?
We used to play games at 360p and 480 at 20 and 30fps, yet we enjoyed them so much
Don't remember
Yeah because those resolutions were the standard at the time LMAO.
PS2 gen had more 60fps titles than most generations
@@osahon9483 yeah of course kids won't remember them days
@@Essu_ that's not the point, it's about enjoying the games rather than pixel peeping and counting if this console offer 10 fps more than that one
If you have a Pro you probably have a VRR screen too, that means that the 120hz Ray Tracing mode in Village ABSOLUTELY MAKES SENSE, just like all the other 120 Hz modes. You don't need CONSTANT 120 fps.
Also WTF calling for a 30 fps cap when the game runs at like 50-55 fps... that's insane
Its amazing to see a 20% increase in performance after 4 years and twice the price, such a dead release
In real world terms it doesn't even come close to 20%
would love to see if PS5 Pro enhances the PS4 VR Version very much with maybe higher dynamic resolution... on og PS4 it was very blurry. Also a shame they didn`t port it over to PSVR2 along with the native PS5 Version.
Imagine hearing "upscaled 864p" on a console you paid $700 for.
A $700 PC will have a 3050 in it .
@@Crashed131963 If you get a crappy pre-build PC, maybe. But custom $700 PC will have $400-500 RTX 4060 Ti-level GPU and $150 i5-level CPUs, which is more than enough for an average gamer and going to completely another level with DLSS 3 supported games.
@@J0rdan912 The fact is most gamers do not build their own PCs.
Especially casual gamers who buy consoles the most .
@@Crashed131963 And this is a huge loss for those gamers and a source of extra profit for console and shady pre-built PC companies.
And the rest of the pc @@J0rdan912
It's a shame that even with all the upgrades, motion aiming isn't patched in. And for the one that does have it, it really isn't ideal.
4 and 8's motion aiming has inertia and acceleration. It's fine on an analog stick, terrible for motion controls. It just makes it feel slower. Not to mention that you can't adjust the sensitivity for it.
This is a tip for any developer adding motion aiming. Don't add in any system that you need to do for an analog stick look aim assist or acceleration. Like using a mouse, you just want the raw one to one input. With sensitivity sliders at least
For all the PS5 Pro hater's keep crying, your to poor to own 1. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
9:01 Whats the Save theme remix it sounds amazing and i can't find it anywhere.
That's the RE village safe room song, hadn't ever heard a remix to it tho, i like it too!
This really shows that the bottleneck is the developers not the hardware
The CPU's on these consoles are still pretty weak. The graphics aren't the real bottleneck.
The CPU is not the problem, it's the RE engine that is unreasonably heavy on the CPU. In DD2 it even has problems with more than a couple of NPCs.
@@cube2foxhuh? Re engine is one of the best out there next to ID tech. Even my steam deck can run these games at nearly 900p - 1080p 60fps
@@kennypowers1945 the RE engine is very good, but works currently is not very optimised for any expansive games with open world (Dragon Dogma 2 and from what we've seen of Monster Hunter Wilds). This makes me a bit worried with how it seems RE9 will have an open world.
But it very good for RE and games like street figher
@@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces most of the time it's GPU not CPU.
Can you show us the SOC on microscope of the PS5 PRO ?
I want to know if it's in 4 nanometers !
The fact that we can say in any situation that pro console is a downgrade is insane, crazy times.
Really was hoping for some PSVR2 news, and RE7 desperately needs a PSVR2 mode.
Do a video on the Wukong upgrade that came out!
When??😮
Wukong got a pro patch?
@alexl7265 it's not on ps5 yet only on epic games store it says its coming tomorrow so hopefully it'll be a good improvement
@Gustaviustwinkelberry so people are saying until it arrives take it with a grain of salt
I kind of hope in the future they come up with a GPU tech they call Far Tracing. That way we can have RT Far-T reflections.
Gas at $1.06 (@0:13)? Don't give Americans any ideas, Capcom, they might release a zombifying virus if they think it'll get them cheap gas.
You mean china
Gas as in LPG vehicles 🤔
@@johndrippergaming I mean, the sign has grades and specifically says gasoline. Oddly though, it doesn't actually say $/gal. (also omits fractional cents), so theoretically they could be bartering for 1.06 goats per bushel. But the game's clearly set in 'murica, so I went with $/gal.
But what did the 1.41 patch from a couple of days ago do for PS5 PRO?
No PSVR2 update? Weak sauce
No pssr on vr2 till next year. Tons of vr2 pro patches will drop then.
@h.i.mcdunnough9421 I'm actually hoping for them to put Asynchronous Time Warp like they did with GT7 on the Pro
@@TheForsaken30 ah, I gotcha. Maybe most devs are just waiting so they can add features like that and pssr simultaneously for the most impact.
Glad to know the RT runs much faster on the PS5 Pro, but is it still visually broken though?… While playing RE 2-3-4 on PC, I preferred disabling it altogether for how noisy it was…
700 for 864p is crazy lmao
1440p dlls quality does the same thing.
I couldn't even tell the difference between the Pro and base console except the Pro run at a nearly locked 120fps.
@@Peter-wx5ws 1440p DLSS Quality is 960p.
LOVE CAPCOM
I AM PLAYING RESIDENT EVIL 4 REMAKE ON PS5 PRO THE FRAME RATE DID IMPROVE
I wonder what exactly is the state of pssr, some games have it all broken almost, but then capcom manages to deploy it with sub 1080 upscaling to 4k with pretty good results in my oponion. Sony might need to setp in and lay some sort of minimum qa test to make sure the game can be released with pssr.