Great video , good to see proper brake bike finally ! I built my Pina F 54 Pluto rim brake 2 months back . We're sitting at a scant 5.68 kg ( ready to ride with pedals , cages and mount ) with THM Cranks , Lightwork carbon chain ring , Cane Creek Brakes , 1 x setup , dura ace di2 11 spd , Cadence Tubs , Selle C-59 saddle , few Ti bolts , Tune cages . Perhaps one of the craziest builds yet . PS - got the same Castelli kit
@@fede1275 I'm Stateside , Florida . One of these days I'm going to post up a video . I can send you some pics if you want .Impatiently waiting on Darimo for a post (straight) . not a fan of the 25mm set back . The frame set popped up for sale one day and I grabbed it . I also just grabbed the new Castelli 6.0 Jersey
@@knedragon well done, I would put a straight seatpost as well. Such a coincidence, another Dogma F here in the UK - London with very similar spec! Would love to see the pictures, you can also send them on Instagram @fede1275 👍👍
Great review thanks Fede - always appreciate your very cultured insights. I was fortunate to have the opportunity recently to chose between a Dogma and a S-works Tarmac SL7 but couldn’t bring myself to go for it… it just felt wrong (or at least a bit ridiculous) for an amateur cyclist of my limited ability to ride such a bike. My compromise was a lesser SL7 with some upgrades to bring it close to top level but much cheaper and less conspicuous. It’s a fantastic bike and I suspect could run close to the Dogma! But a bit like when I owned a Porsche a few years ago, I would have felt a bit of a nob with the top of the range…
Just found your channel. Loved your honest review. They are difficult to come by. I am fortunate enough to have just built the Dogma F in Disc Brake but am yet to ride it as I am recovering from COVID. Will hopefully take her out on her maiden ride in a few weeks. Great content. Subscribed!
@@fede1275 exactly I myself have a Pinarello Gan RS with rim brakes and carbon wheels and it’s so damn amazing. Can imagine an even slightly lighter bike like these with carbon handlebars, carbon saddle, carbon stem,… I just love Pinarello
Bought a Dogma F Rim to replace a '21 Prince FX Rim (F12 trickle-down) and some older Dogmas. The F is soo comfortable. You don't see any flex but feel suspension. Holding your line and steering into a corner is completely telepathic. The riding is so relaxing that I zone out a lot more than on other bikes. I was surprised that it is so much better than the Prince FX. The Dogma F Rim is one of the best road bikes I have ridden. May the rim brake live on!
Great video and a great bike. It must have been a special experience. It's interesting they have a rim brake version. I did my first AUDAX today with some tough climbs and some exhilarating descents, I was impressed with my rim brake performance.
It really was! I never had a problem so rim brakes in the dry. But I never drag the brakes especially on long descends. You would need to give the rims the time to cool off for a bit.
@@fede1275 I have the feeling that discs on road bike are simply too strong. I crashed yesterday because my front wheel locked up and I wasn't even braking so hard. I have hydraulic 105 on my bottechia.
@@michadebicki6534 that's what some are saying, yes. I have mechanical discs on my Merida, so not really comparable. A friend of mine with his new bike with hydraulic discs in an emergency stop flipped over the bars!
@@fede1275 yup, definitely possible! On second Bottechia bike 8Avio which is currently on the trainer I have full hydraulic tiagra (2020) groupset with tiagra shifters and brakes. They actually have even more stopping power (probably due to higher end shimano discs which were part of the factory spec of the bike) and flipping over the bars is very easy when the brake is grabbed with force in a emergency stop situation. This is scary. But, they're great when you have to shave off lots of speed quickly while descending. I switched to discs because one time on the descend a car stopped in front of me and my ultegra rim brakes with koolstop pads were not able to stop me in time. I needed to land in a ditch, luckily a bunch of leaves cushioned the impact. But it seems that hydraulic pizza cutters can be an "overachieving" solution in many circumstances because I never experienced such easy front wheel lock-ups in a wet before.
Very enjoyable and funny video! I can imagine the feeling of "lightness". After riding a ~12 kg aluminium front fork 'hybrid' for over 2 years (that is still my commute), getting my sub 8 kg Ultimate was just a revelation.. Just accelerating from a standstill was such an experience.. every pedal stroke, wow ! Good bikes are just the best experience one can have !
What I like about bicycles, aside of snobbery, that you can ride 10 times less expensive bicycle than Pinarello and still enjoy riding equally if not even more sometimes.
Fede, at the beginning I was afraid that you ended up having sponsored content losing the key differentiator of your channel: honest reviews without trying to sell anything created by and for average riders, but I finished the video with a smile from your jokes! I’ve re discovered your channel yesterday, (now subscribed) and watched all your videos from the one about the seat height that was the one I’ve seen long time ago. Awesome content you have! I know your channel will soon get +100k subscribers and might change, but hope remains as this “old UA-cam era” content. Ciao
Sponsors are fine and allow content creators to invest more of their time into the channel if done right like Francis Cade it doesn't impact the content at all.
I am trying to maintain a true reflection of my experiences, really talking about what surprises me or made me learn new things. Who knows what will happen if the channel grows, but I'll still be me!
I am not sure, I was too shy to ask her... I believe something around medium or 54, as she was slightly smaller than the L Canyon Ultimate I usually ride. A dream bike for sure.
Hey Fede , what a bike !!!! You’re very lucky ! I had a go on the old dogma and it was super smooth. The dogma F that you ride !!!! Well what I can I say ! It absolutely suited YOU! you looked cool Riding it . Makes me want to get my Pinerello now and go for a spin 😂. It’s a rest day today as I’ve cycled 200 miles this week . Maybe a spin around Richmond pk on her tomorrow. Your canyon will be very near now you’ve on the Dogma F 👍🏽
Hi, I didn't have the pleasure of riding an SL7, but just based on the emotions I would go with the Dogma, in rim brakes. It is just, at least in my mind, something else, like a sculpture on wheels, based on efficiency. It is just love more than reason.
In reality I thought about that before and I was anxious, but the Dogma is so stable that it was easy to ride one handed. More stable than my Ultimate.
Great video, great humour, but my question is about your opinion, after your test ride, is this bike worth this difference in price, against your Canyon.....🤔
It’s not easy to answer and in reality it depends on the intended use of the bike. The Dogma is an all out racing machine and its justification is based on the assumption that she can let you finish ahead of your competitors. In that context even that absurd price can be balanced by the need to win. At that level the margins are small, but a win by a small margin is still a win. For a leisurely use then my Ultimate is entertaining and exciting and is all I really need, but I’m not racing and my priorities might be different.
You've definitely upset your Canyon there!😂 The Dogma is a lovely bike, I'm not a big fan of the current dropped seatstay trend, it looks acceptable here though, but only with rim brakes! #savetherimbrake
I have a team concorde from the 90s. Italian steel electric blue paint full crome fork full crome seat stays @ chain stays Italian tricolour painted on the top tube aswell and of course on campagnolo. She's beautiful so much so I can't bring myself to get a spot of dirt on her!!! Check out the pdm concorde team from the 90s fantastic painted frames from that time.
It’s not easy to capture all the feedback in an hour or so, but I can tell it’s a more focused race bike than the Ultimate, so more capable for all out efforts and maybe less enjoyable for all around use.
@@fede1275 that's definitely the way to go! I don't ride ever in the rain, so rim for me all the way. I will have to build my next bike custom with rim brakes I think!
@@MarcraM82 yes, because unfortunately we are the minority and the industry hasn't got the resources to cater for both systems. The majority prefers discs and that's it sadly.
Dear Sigma Sports. After riding this Dogma F rim brake I want to buy it. I have recently bought another bike so I have no money though. However I could trade you two Canyon’s and a Merida. Not enough. What about if I add my wife in as well. Hell, I will even throw in a dining table to sweeten the deal so when she gives you grief you can even hide under it. Sold.
The Prince looks great and I'm sure is a very nice bike. I preferred to spend less on the Ultimate rim to still have a lighter bike. The Dogma is the unreachable dream, on the other end.
@@ariffau so far I already chose 2 Ultimates, as I also have the Merida with discs to use on the commute when it rains. If I had to get only 1 bike than the Prince could make sense.
Very nice no doubt. But honestly I like the overall look of your Canyon and its wheels better. 🚴🏻♂️😎 Besides, that Dogma would probably just cheat on you anyways.
For decades I rode an all Campagnolo Record, Columbus steel tubed Guerciotti SL. I was consistently happy with it UNTIL I repaired my stepson's carbon Giant TCR and took it for a test ride. I was forever spoiled for the responsive feel of the bike. I had betrayed my trusty old friend. I hope this hasn't happened to you with your Canyons...
Federico Glad you got your ride on your bike! As I said before, if I pay silly prices, I expect "Italian-made" ,not "Italian-Design!" It must also have top-end Campagnolo kit on it, and not that awful, bland, ugly Shima(NO) on it! As for the MET Trenta helmet. I had a Liquigas MET helmet which was awesome quality like a KASK, back in 2007/8, but when I got a recent Trenta carbon, I immediately noticed cheaper quality, with a "Made in China" label, so sent it back. and complained to them, but they don't care, or respond!!! There are nice Italian companies, and unhelpful, nasty companies! I tried to buy some Santini Mercatone Uno shorts in 4XL from eBay, from France, but seller refused to sell to me, because Brexit mean's customs, delivery, and VAT are expensive!!! Yet, I am the person paying the extra costs!!!
@@fede1275 Well, how would you describe the difference in personality? As an instrument of forward locomotion scribing the terrain like a fine Stradivarius violin, what notes or harmonic overtones are the Canyon missing?
@@paulmcknight4137 nice analogy 😄, I would say the Ultimate can produce a well rounded music and melodic tones, the Dogma maybe can hit the higher pitches but with more skill needed from the player.
My dream bike as well! Thank you for taking the time to shoot the vid!
👍 👍
Great video , good to see proper brake bike finally ! I built my Pina F 54 Pluto rim brake 2 months back . We're sitting at a scant 5.68 kg ( ready to ride with pedals , cages and mount ) with THM Cranks , Lightwork carbon chain ring , Cane Creek Brakes , 1 x setup , dura ace di2 11 spd , Cadence Tubs , Selle C-59 saddle , few Ti bolts , Tune cages . Perhaps one of the craziest builds yet . PS - got the same Castelli kit
🤩🤩 wow, what a spec!! Was it not the one on display at Sigma a few months ago? I have a short video on that one as well!
@@fede1275 I'm Stateside , Florida . One of these days I'm going to post up a video . I can send you some pics if you want .Impatiently waiting on Darimo for a post (straight) . not a fan of the 25mm set back . The frame set popped up for sale one day and I grabbed it . I also just grabbed the new Castelli 6.0 Jersey
@@knedragon well done, I would put a straight seatpost as well. Such a coincidence, another Dogma F here in the UK - London with very similar spec! Would love to see the pictures, you can also send them on Instagram @fede1275 👍👍
Keep on doing what you do as we all appreciate it 👊🏾✊🏾👏🏾
Thank you so much 😄
What an absolute beauty! Love the recurve in the forks and stays, the lines just flow, PROPER design!
Talking to your bikes - classic! Bella!
Bellissima 👍👍
I love the arc of the top tube. It gives the bike a powerful look.. like the bike is ready to pounce.. like a wild beast. :). Bella
Great review thanks Fede - always appreciate your very cultured insights. I was fortunate to have the opportunity recently to chose between a Dogma and a S-works Tarmac SL7 but couldn’t bring myself to go for it… it just felt wrong (or at least a bit ridiculous) for an amateur cyclist of my limited ability to ride such a bike. My compromise was a lesser SL7 with some upgrades to bring it close to top level but much cheaper and less conspicuous. It’s a fantastic bike and I suspect could run close to the Dogma! But a bit like when I owned a Porsche a few years ago, I would have felt a bit of a nob with the top of the range…
I can understand your feelings, but ultimately it is your choice and if you can do it who cares!
My buddy bought a Pinarello Prince. Same geometry as the Dogma with less inexpensive carbon fiber than the pro version.
Just found your channel. Loved your honest review. They are difficult to come by. I am fortunate enough to have just built the Dogma F in Disc Brake but am yet to ride it as I am recovering from COVID. Will hopefully take her out on her maiden ride in a few weeks. Great content. Subscribed!
Thank you, I hope you will be out riding very soon!!
Incredible bike! Looking scary fast to me 😄. Great video again, thanks Federico! Hope one day your dream will come true!
Thank you, definitely a serious racing machine!!
Rim brakes (direct mount) on top end bikes like this one are just next level amazing
Such a pity they are not offered on other brands!!
@@fede1275 exactly I myself have a Pinarello Gan RS with rim brakes and carbon wheels and it’s so damn amazing. Can imagine an even slightly lighter bike like these with carbon handlebars, carbon saddle, carbon stem,… I just love Pinarello
I did the same on my Oltre XR4, with Campag SR EPS, it's also stunning with rim brakes, rim for the win 🏆
@@cyclonutterd7075 rim XR4 is also on my dream list!
I really like how the bottom bracket area is constructed. Looks very strong around bearing area and plenty of room for internal routings. Great video!
Yes, impressive engineering.
Wonderful to see you out and about on your dream bike Federico. And perfect weather also. Superbo.
😁😁
Bought a Dogma F Rim to replace a '21 Prince FX Rim (F12 trickle-down) and some older Dogmas.
The F is soo comfortable. You don't see any flex but feel suspension. Holding your line and steering into a corner is completely telepathic. The riding is so relaxing that I zone out a lot more than on other bikes. I was surprised that it is so much better than the Prince FX.
The Dogma F Rim is one of the best road bikes I have ridden. May the rim brake live on!
It's still my dream bike! Yes, handling is very stable and ready for high speed
Great video and a great bike. It must have been a special experience. It's interesting they have a rim brake version. I did my first AUDAX today with some tough climbs and some exhilarating descents, I was impressed with my rim brake performance.
It really was! I never had a problem so rim brakes in the dry. But I never drag the brakes especially on long descends. You would need to give the rims the time to cool off for a bit.
@@fede1275 I have the feeling that discs on road bike are simply too strong. I crashed yesterday because my front wheel locked up and I wasn't even braking so hard. I have hydraulic 105 on my bottechia.
@@michadebicki6534 that's what some are saying, yes. I have mechanical discs on my Merida, so not really comparable. A friend of mine with his new bike with hydraulic discs in an emergency stop flipped over the bars!
@@fede1275 yup, definitely possible! On second Bottechia bike 8Avio which is currently on the trainer I have full hydraulic tiagra (2020) groupset with tiagra shifters and brakes. They actually have even more stopping power (probably due to higher end shimano discs which were part of the factory spec of the bike) and flipping over the bars is very easy when the brake is grabbed with force in a emergency stop situation. This is scary. But, they're great when you have to shave off lots of speed quickly while descending. I switched to discs because one time on the descend a car stopped in front of me and my ultegra rim brakes with koolstop pads were not able to stop me in time. I needed to land in a ditch, luckily a bunch of leaves cushioned the impact. But it seems that hydraulic pizza cutters can be an "overachieving" solution in many circumstances because I never experienced such easy front wheel lock-ups in a wet before.
@@michadebicki6534 you are right, there is not an easy solution to reduce stopping distance. Physics apply.
Very enjoyable and funny video! I can imagine the feeling of "lightness". After riding a ~12 kg aluminium front fork 'hybrid' for over 2 years (that is still my commute), getting my sub 8 kg Ultimate was just a revelation.. Just accelerating from a standstill was such an experience.. every pedal stroke, wow !
Good bikes are just the best experience one can have !
Yes, it was the same for me when I got my Ultimate, it just felt alive!
I have had exactly the same situation and to be honest I didn’t even notice any dramatic difference between 12 and 8 kg bike as many people suggested.
Italians has this gift for beautiful designs, not always the most practical ones I need to say. Definitely, there is soul in every item they do.
Very true, especially regarding practicality!
That PINERELLO is art, i still ride my 2013 dogma :) and im happy,nice video as always.
Thank you!!
“She’s just a friend”,love it
😄😄
I could just sit and stare at a Pinarello all day and never get bored.
Work of art!
What I like about bicycles, aside of snobbery, that you can ride 10 times less expensive bicycle than Pinarello and still enjoy riding equally if not even more sometimes.
Espectacular y preciosa bicicleta. Ojalá tuviera yo una igual
Fede, at the beginning I was afraid that you ended up having sponsored content losing the key differentiator of your channel: honest reviews without trying to sell anything created by and for average riders, but I finished the video with a smile from your jokes!
I’ve re discovered your channel yesterday, (now subscribed) and watched all your videos from the one about the seat height that was the one I’ve seen long time ago. Awesome content you have!
I know your channel will soon get +100k subscribers and might change, but hope remains as this “old UA-cam era” content.
Ciao
Sponsors are fine and allow content creators to invest more of their time into the channel if done right like Francis Cade it doesn't impact the content at all.
@@talonlan true that is also good content
I am trying to maintain a true reflection of my experiences, really talking about what surprises me or made me learn new things. Who knows what will happen if the channel grows, but I'll still be me!
Enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing
Thank you!!!
Never seen you look so happy! What an amazing experience for you. I sense trouble in paradise (ie : the bank balance)
Yes, but only when I find my missing bitcoin 😁
You killed me when you talked to both bikes!! Lol
Love the content, hello from New York
I believe it does help 😂😂
She’s very pretty, your new friend 🤩 and she really suits you, charm and sarcasm are also art forms 🤘🏼 ride on Fede
I know, pity it was just a one afternoon stand 😂
That was Awesome Federico!! I have a 2015 Tarmac that works just fine. But can only Imagine how nice that Dogma rides
Definitely a great experience, luckily in cycling previous gen bikes still ride very well, especially rim brake ones.
What size was this F and what’s your height ??? Love the rim brake setup
I am not sure, I was too shy to ask her... I believe something around medium or 54, as she was slightly smaller than the L Canyon Ultimate I usually ride. A dream bike for sure.
I'm a bit late watching this,but wow well done 👍. So happy that you had that great experience.
👍 👍
Hey Fede , what a bike !!!! You’re very lucky ! I had a go on the old dogma and it was super smooth. The dogma F that you ride !!!! Well what I can I say ! It absolutely suited YOU! you looked cool
Riding it . Makes me want to get my Pinerello now and go for a spin 😂. It’s a rest day today as I’ve cycled 200 miles this week . Maybe a spin around Richmond pk on her tomorrow. Your canyon will be very near now you’ve on the Dogma F 👍🏽
Thank you, there is always time for a spin on your Pinarello! I am still loving my Ultimate, so it is all good!
Hi Federico - if you had the choice-would you buy a tarmac sl 7 or this pinarello dogma F?Thanks Did you ride these two bikes?Greetings Thomas
Hi, I didn't have the pleasure of riding an SL7, but just based on the emotions I would go with the Dogma, in rim brakes. It is just, at least in my mind, something else, like a sculpture on wheels, based on efficiency. It is just love more than reason.
my heart was in my mouth watching this when you were holding the camera and riding one handed...........
In reality I thought about that before and I was anxious, but the Dogma is so stable that it was easy to ride one handed. More stable than my Ultimate.
@@fede1275 i'm glad you (and she) survived!
Excellent video , Federico . Bravo ! 🚴🏼👍🏻
Grazie mille!
Amazing review/ video! I have the same jersey..awesome fit and quality 👌🏻
Thank you, I love it, I also have the black one!
What I great video. Cheers from Bavaria 😀
Thank you!!
Love my Pinarello Gan training bike, great bike for the money
👍 👍
Classico 👌You looked good on it my friend.
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video, great humour, but my question is about your opinion, after your test ride, is this bike worth this difference in price, against your Canyon.....🤔
It’s not easy to answer and in reality it depends on the intended use of the bike. The Dogma is an all out racing machine and its justification is based on the assumption that she can let you finish ahead of your competitors. In that context even that absurd price can be balanced by the need to win. At that level the margins are small, but a win by a small margin is still a win. For a leisurely use then my Ultimate is entertaining and exciting and is all I really need, but I’m not racing and my priorities might be different.
What a cracking video, love the ending very funny 👏🚴♂️🚴♂️
Glad you enjoyed it
Fredrico I am really enjoying your videos. Great humour, great honesty and interesting viewpoints (rim brakes?? 👀)
Keep them coming. 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much!!
@@fede1275 can you tell me what do you do for a living that allows you to commute to work?
@@steveindorset might sound strange, but I work in the motor industry sales 😬
@@fede1275 wow!
I really did not expect that! But it tells me why you’re such a good communicator. 👍🏻
@@steveindorset I'm still thinking I ended up here by chance. But it's been 20 years 😂
LOVE IT!!!
What a machine! The bike isn't bad either 😅 great vid as always. If only I could afford one.
😂😂 I definitely can't!
Loving it ❤👌🚴♂️
😄👍
Beautiful bike pure art your a very lucky man 🇯🇲🙏🏿👌🏿 I ride a Bianchi 🇮🇹 😀🤛🏿
Bianchi are fabulous, you are riding a masterpiece!
i wanna have Pinarello
Dogma F
thats the best
actually upon seeing your blog
i do believe that indeed it was d best
You are right on both counts 😄
I heard that the braking is rubbish on the new dura ace rim especially with the F..did you notice anything like that?
That one had Enve wheels and I did not ride that hard. I remember brakes were a bit noisy, but it might have been the pads really.
Great colour combo 🤌🏻👍🏻
That would be my choice too!
You've definitely upset your Canyon there!😂 The Dogma is a lovely bike, I'm not a big fan of the current dropped seatstay trend, it looks acceptable here though, but only with rim brakes! #savetherimbrake
I know, I had to work hard to regain her trust 😄. Definitely looks amazing with rim brakes!
great review (...e poi diciamolo: la miglior bicicletta nel miglior allestimento possibile)
Assolutamente si!!
I have a team concorde from the 90s. Italian steel electric blue paint full crome fork full crome seat stays @ chain stays Italian tricolour painted on the top tube aswell and of course on campagnolo. She's beautiful so much so I can't bring myself to get a spot of dirt on her!!!
Check out the pdm concorde team from the 90s fantastic painted frames from that time.
Great, looks amazing!!
Fantastic, I'm a Tarmac man myself but what a bike the Pinarello is, was it all you hoped it would be?
It’s not easy to capture all the feedback in an hour or so, but I can tell it’s a more focused race bike than the Ultimate, so more capable for all out efforts and maybe less enjoyable for all around use.
@@fede1275 interesting, I suppose it's like a ferrari, nice on a sunny day and nice to look at but an expensive luxury unless you're a racer.
Rim break Dogman F is peak Aero bike imo 👌
Absolutely!
You looked the Italian idol on that bike, obviously it was made with you in mind, no other possible reason.
You are too kind, thank you. I might try that at the Pinarello store 😂
smiling!
Bellissimo video e bellissima bici - you made me ‘Like’ and ‘Subscribe’
Grazie mille!! 😄😄
Im not a fan of aero bikes at all but love rim brakes. wish more companies still used them. would take rim over disc any day.
Absolutely! I only use my better rim brake bike in decent weather, I have my cheaper disc brake bike for the rainy commute.
@@fede1275 that's definitely the way to go! I don't ride ever in the rain, so rim for me all the way. I will have to build my next bike custom with rim brakes I think!
@@MarcraM82 yes, because unfortunately we are the minority and the industry hasn't got the resources to cater for both systems. The majority prefers discs and that's it sadly.
Plutonium is a nice volour combination-I also like xhrystal white
That shape looks great in most colours, silver and white are amongst the best, yes
weight?
7Kg complete
@@fede1275 oof, what groupo?
@@timtaylor9590 shimano dura ace 12s
@@fede1275 they didnt make 9200 rim brakes right? so are your calipers 9100?
@@timtaylor9590 you are too good and clearly that confirms that it's not my bike and I'm not enough for her 😄
I have the F12... I will keep it. I prefer the look of the 12.
Nice one 👍
Dear Sigma Sports. After riding this Dogma F rim brake I want to buy it. I have recently bought another bike so I have no money though. However I could trade you two Canyon’s and a Merida. Not enough. What about if I add my wife in as well. Hell, I will even throw in a dining table to sweeten the deal so when she gives you grief you can even hide under it. Sold.
😂😂 I tried and it’s still not enough!!
A suggestion... superglue... saddle... say no more ;-)
Genius! Should have done it.
N+1 !
Not on this one 😂 ££££££££
Ever considered their lower tier Prince as your dream bike?
The Prince looks great and I'm sure is a very nice bike. I preferred to spend less on the Ultimate rim to still have a lighter bike. The Dogma is the unreachable dream, on the other end.
@@fede1275 haha. Right. A question. What would you rather have?
2 Canyon Ultimates or 1 Pinarello Prince?
@@ariffau so far I already chose 2 Ultimates, as I also have the Merida with discs to use on the commute when it rains. If I had to get only 1 bike than the Prince could make sense.
Very nice no doubt. But honestly I like the overall look of your Canyon and its wheels better. 🚴🏻♂️😎 Besides, that Dogma would probably just cheat on you anyways.
You are right! The risks of punching above your weight 🤣
To be Italian, bene! It would have been perfect with Campagnolo kit and wheels! Grazie
I know, the owner prefers the reliability of Shimano. I agree all Italian would look cool! Ciao
For decades I rode an all Campagnolo Record, Columbus steel tubed Guerciotti SL. I was consistently happy with it UNTIL I repaired my stepson's carbon Giant TCR and took it for a test ride. I was forever spoiled for the responsive feel of the bike. I had betrayed my trusty old friend. I hope this hasn't happened to you with your Canyons...
I can understand! Luckily my Ultimate is also super responsive, so I'm still happy!
10:27 "just a botta e via"
Purtroppo si!!
Where was the button to ‘turn it on’? I’m still looking 😜
😂😂
Federico
Glad you got your ride on your bike!
As I said before, if I pay silly prices, I expect "Italian-made" ,not "Italian-Design!"
It must also have top-end Campagnolo kit on it, and not that awful, bland, ugly Shima(NO) on it!
As for the MET Trenta helmet.
I had a Liquigas MET helmet which was awesome quality like a KASK, back in 2007/8, but when
I got a recent Trenta carbon, I immediately noticed cheaper quality, with a "Made in China" label,
so sent it back. and complained to them, but they don't care, or respond!!!
There are nice Italian companies, and unhelpful, nasty companies!
I tried to buy some Santini Mercatone Uno shorts in 4XL from eBay, from France, but seller refused
to sell to me, because Brexit mean's customs, delivery, and VAT are expensive!!!
Yet, I am the person paying the extra costs!!!
Beard make more aero.
Obviously hahaha
Meh… the look of the Canyon is much better, IMO.
I love my Canyon Ultimate, you are right. The Dogma is a very different approach, remarkable in its own right though.
@@fede1275 Well, how would you describe the difference in personality? As an instrument of forward locomotion scribing the terrain like a fine Stradivarius violin, what notes or harmonic overtones are the Canyon missing?
@@paulmcknight4137 nice analogy 😄, I would say the Ultimate can produce a well rounded music and melodic tones, the Dogma maybe can hit the higher pitches but with more skill needed from the player.
Typical Italian stallion 'cheats' on another bike.🤣😂😅
😂😂
“ it’s stuck “ Brilliant
It was 😂
An outstanding bike and an outstanding human being riding it 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Thank you 😊