Chapeau Fede really pleased for you you’re in the modern era, disc brakes next 🤣. I’ve still got rim brake bike so might be worth investing!! Happy cycling 🚴
Well, once again your mechanical skills were put to the test, well done!! And, as many have said, including you, it will be difficult to return to the mechanical group. I am very happy that you liked it and there is no doubt that it is an added pleasure factor while cycling. Abraço 🚲😄
Nice! When I got back into road cycling after a long gap, friends recommended that I got Di2. I’m so glad they did. I just added a Bluetooth module, so that like you, I can program using the phone app. Enjoy. 😊
I guess that having a successful UA-cam channel, and being a great ambassador for cycling has it's bonuses. Thanks for sharing your experiences with this groupset, and I look forward to any updates. Rim brakes forever 😄
I'm seriously tempted by this. I have a 2021 rim brake Canyon Ultimate, like yourself, and was set on upgrading my groupset from 105 to Ultegra due to wear and tear - now this comes along. So although it seems to be pretty much neutral weight wise, getting an extra gear would help an awful lot of the climbs.. going from 11-30 11 speed to 11-34 12 speed with a more even gear spread. Very tempting indeed. The only downside is the aesthetics - that front derailleur looks pretty bulky and ugly. Thanks for the review! That bike looks beautiful - I love the fact it has a plain, stealthy look with no branding or stickers everywhere. Very neat indeed 👌
the beauty about this wheeltop is that we now have cheaper option for mechanical disc brake fully wireless! really curious for the longterm review since some store also start preorrdering for this product. Grazie Fede, enjoy.
Awesome- my experience with going wireless is, before you do it you think nothings wrong with mechanical. Once you do it- you’ll never go back to mechanical. *Updates to wireless… *waits a further 4 weeks for it to stop raining in the UK!!!!
Absolutely, electronic shifting definitely feels so much better! Might keep the mechanical on the Canyon as it does have a weird 53/36 set-up, but it would feel agricultural 😂
Interested to see how this works over the next few weeks Federico. A point about the weight of the two group sets, you’ve took weight off the handlebars and moved it much lower down on the bike, that is a good thing in my mind.
I bought the previous Velobuild frame in McLaren Prost-Senna colours, but I had the workshop to complete it. This silver one I put it together myself, I have a video here ua-cam.com/video/T-qspaK6xac/v-deo.htmlsi=dLrFxP0L1npn1qn6 and here ua-cam.com/video/vGxhjmzdnEk/v-deo.htmlsi=6MpNsXG6Td2NNAFH
Just curious about the integration of the group with your bike computer. I use a Garmin 840 and my group is the Dura-Ace Di2 11 speed. What I really like is the computer display shows the gears so I don't have to look down at the drivetrain anymore, and the computer also shows me the battery statis so I know when I need to charge the battery. Your group uses two batteries in the derailleurs and coin cells in the levers, I don't know how that would work. That might be a bit of information you could highlight because some people might be interested. Garmin has done some wonderful things IMO, they now have a screen that controls my Spotify music app using the touchscreen. Yes, I really feel high tech on the bike with so much integration and information all coming together.
Hi thanks for review, I have purchased as well and love it. One question have you worked iut how to calibrate gears using the shifters? So far done it with the app only
I’ve got one on my bike. Slight niggle though is that I adjust the screw when I’m in The lowest gear (36/30) so the front derailleur doesn’t rub, but when I’m shifting in the big ring it doesn’t trim in the middle gears enough, so get rubbing on the front mech. If I shift down to 9-10-11 trims. A bit annoying and not been able to solve it.
I am not sure how to fix this, luckily I have a very minor front DR rubbing when I cross chain when in the big ring, I then move to the small front ring and it is all okay. I did not touch the screws, only adjusted the rear indexing with the app.
It's a great groupset, my experience is exactly like yours with the front derailleur, its almost impossible to stop the tiny bit of noise if in big-big gear combination but I guess we shouldn't be cross chaining. Wheltop say they optimized the groupset for 12 speed, maybe the slightly narrower 12 speed chain would cure this? I've bought a 12 speed chain and cassette to upgrade but haven't fit them yet.
This is a Velobuild VB-R-068, inspired by the old Specialized Venge Vias. Got the frame for less than £500, really fast in the right conditions. I have a few videos on this one and the same previous larger frame in red and white McLaren colours.
@@BeachDaddyLB They also do a Dogma replica, but that looked too much like a copy with its distinctive shape, while this one is more a generic aero bike.
Federico, i am about to purchase this groupset. My concern is i have a fairly basic phone and i am not up to speed on the latest tech. How would i go setting this up? Brian
I would say a smartphone is required to run the app and do the set up. From the manual there should be a way to do it with the levers, but it seems quite a task. See the manual here to see if you can understand. With the app you can see it much better. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0589/9655/5828/files/EDS-TX_instructions.pdf?v=1707117217
They mention a long life expected, I will check in real terms what it means. Mechanical groupsets are lighter, so staying on the same weight is a good result with the convenience of fully wireless.
Excellent & a very informative video as always Fred keep it up & can i take the pleasure in formally welcoming you to the electronic groupset club as there is no going back to mechanical shifting now trust me 🤣 i personally haven't got this groupset as im abit of a "snob" & been using Shimano Ultegra Di2 for the past 8 years or so & just recently upgraded to its 12 speed version the 8100 series but yeah love your continued assistance & support that you share with us all about your experience, knowledge & your endeavours in all thing's road biking...,we salute you Sir have a fabulous & wonderful day 👊🏾👍🏾
@@fede1275 Fred, the new version of Ultegra that i upgraded too the 8100 series is almost wireless as it's a Bluetooth system & the only wires are from the battery installed in the seat post that connects to the rear mech & also the front mech where all wires are internal..,no wires run from my levers only the hydraulic hose line for the disc brake system & yes totally agree with you that Shimano should do a rim brake version but i guess it all boils down to cost & is it viable for them to do so 🤷🏾♂️
@@govermentsoundsystemrootik8887 possibly there is still a market for rims in the far east, much less in Europe and the US, so some brands still offer the option
@@fede1275 I'm inclined to agree with you Fred as depending on where in the world one lives dictates what's available in brands etc so on & so forth that you can get as here in England we are limited to mainly to the main 3 brands but those of us who are "savvy" enough can source parts from other brands thats as good & can give these mainstream brands a run for their money as like i said the main top brands of groupsets that we have here should indeed pay attention don't you think 🤔
Happy for you to finally be able to go to wireless! Now just need that bike sponsorship
9:44 When you pass the guy on aero bars while you talk to the camera. 😂😂😂
You have to do what you have to do... hahah
Chapeau Fede really pleased for you you’re in the modern era, disc brakes next 🤣. I’ve still got rim brake bike so might be worth investing!! Happy cycling 🚴
I am still very much a Luddite hahah
I love your channel honestly ! excellent communication - recently got into cycling and stumbled on your vids. ! Will be getting this group set !
Thank you so much!
Another great video on how to upgrade to electronic group set with out giving up an arm and leg😊😊❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
excellent video Federico. It's also very encouraging that there's some more competition in the groupset market. Happy cycling!
Yes, I hope more will come with wireless convenient offerings in both discs and rims
I have one and I love it! sooo fast, best performance for the price.
I'm really impressed, just a few rides in, but it is really nice
Electric shifting for a cable-brake bike. Good idea. Glad you find it works.
Haven't seen you in my feed for a while.
Always a pleasure
@@1mesonyx 😀😀
Very interesting video. Thank you Federico.
Well, once again your mechanical skills were put to the test, well done!! And, as many have said, including you, it will be difficult to return to the mechanical group. I am very happy that you liked it and there is no doubt that it is an added pleasure factor while cycling. Abraço 🚲😄
@@MrPrax28 I'm surprised myself I put it together 😀
Nice! When I got back into road cycling after a long gap, friends recommended that I got Di2. I’m so glad they did. I just added a Bluetooth module, so that like you, I can program using the phone app. Enjoy. 😊
I guess that having a successful UA-cam channel, and being a great ambassador for cycling has it's bonuses. Thanks for sharing your experiences with this groupset, and I look forward to any updates. Rim brakes forever 😄
@@santiagobenites thanks for that, I know! I'm still trying to be balanced, but I might change 😂
Super upgrade and brilliant that you don't have to buy stuff you don't need when you buy it.
I was almost going to buy this one anyway for the Velobuild, I am definitely lucky!
I'm seriously tempted by this.
I have a 2021 rim brake Canyon Ultimate, like yourself, and was set on upgrading my groupset from 105 to Ultegra due to wear and tear - now this comes along.
So although it seems to be pretty much neutral weight wise, getting an extra gear would help an awful lot of the climbs.. going from 11-30 11 speed to 11-34 12 speed with a more even gear spread. Very tempting indeed.
The only downside is the aesthetics - that front derailleur looks pretty bulky and ugly.
Thanks for the review! That bike looks beautiful - I love the fact it has a plain, stealthy look with no branding or stickers everywhere. Very neat indeed 👌
@@Nehpets1701G it's definitely a great option and the wireless set up is so easy to implement. Being weight neutral from 105 was also good.
the beauty about this wheeltop is that we now have cheaper option for mechanical disc brake fully wireless! really curious for the longterm review since some store also start preorrdering for this product. Grazie Fede, enjoy.
Yes, great upgrade for rim and cable discs bikes. I have been riding it all week and I am impressed so far.
That’s pretty nice. I’m not a technical person so I’d pay a pretty penny to my LBS to get that changed. Happy riding!!
Awesome- my experience with going wireless is, before you do it you think nothings wrong with mechanical. Once you do it- you’ll never go back to mechanical.
*Updates to wireless…
*waits a further 4 weeks for it to stop raining in the UK!!!!
Absolutely, electronic shifting definitely feels so much better! Might keep the mechanical on the Canyon as it does have a weird 53/36 set-up, but it would feel agricultural 😂
thanks for the video, I have the same group but not set up yet, painting my old but wonderful Lemond, can't wait to try it out.
Awesome stuff! Great video Federico!!!
Been waiting for this one. 👏
Great video. Cheers…
Thank you!
The best maestro!
😀
So far so good...
Next video - multi charging equipment- Garmin/Wahoo, lights, camera, phone, pump, derailleur batteries, Sex toy!😂
Anything for my followers 🤣
Great info very interesting 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
@@n22pdf thank you!
Interested to see how this works over the next few weeks Federico.
A point about the weight of the two group sets, you’ve took weight off the handlebars and moved it much lower down on the bike, that is a good thing in my mind.
I thought I felt it when I moved the bike, but I did not want to say it, people don't believe me 😀
@@fede1275Lower centre of gravity is never a bad thing, especially when cornering!
You have a great voice Federico. Maybe it's the accent haha!
I know, it's hard to get rid of this London accent 😂
0:44 That’s considered nice riding weather where I live 😂. Bergen, Norway is rainiest city in Europe.
It has been horrible here as well unfortunately
Nice review. Everyone seems to have great things to say about this group set. Do you have a video where you go over the entire bike build:?
I bought the previous Velobuild frame in McLaren Prost-Senna colours, but I had the workshop to complete it. This silver one I put it together myself, I have a video here ua-cam.com/video/T-qspaK6xac/v-deo.htmlsi=dLrFxP0L1npn1qn6 and here ua-cam.com/video/vGxhjmzdnEk/v-deo.htmlsi=6MpNsXG6Td2NNAFH
@@fede1275 Thank you
Just curious about the integration of the group with your bike computer. I use a Garmin 840 and my group is the Dura-Ace Di2 11 speed. What I really like is the computer display shows the gears so I don't have to look down at the drivetrain anymore, and the computer also shows me the battery statis so I know when I need to charge the battery. Your group uses two batteries in the derailleurs and coin cells in the levers, I don't know how that would work. That might be a bit of information you could highlight because some people might be interested. Garmin has done some wonderful things IMO, they now have a screen that controls my Spotify music app using the touchscreen. Yes, I really feel high tech on the bike with so much integration and information all coming together.
Nice, I need to try and connect my Wahoo, I believe it should work to show the gears
Hi thanks for review, I have purchased as well and love it. One question have you worked iut how to calibrate gears using the shifters? So far done it with the app only
@@nodyah66 I also used the app only, just reading how to do it manually made me desist
I’ve got one on my bike. Slight niggle though is that I adjust the screw when I’m in The lowest gear (36/30) so the front derailleur doesn’t rub, but when I’m shifting in the big ring it doesn’t trim in the middle gears enough, so get rubbing on the front mech. If I shift down to 9-10-11 trims. A bit annoying and not been able to solve it.
I am not sure how to fix this, luckily I have a very minor front DR rubbing when I cross chain when in the big ring, I then move to the small front ring and it is all okay. I did not touch the screws, only adjusted the rear indexing with the app.
It's a great groupset, my experience is exactly like yours with the front derailleur, its almost impossible to stop the tiny bit of noise if in big-big gear combination but I guess we shouldn't be cross chaining. Wheltop say they optimized the groupset for 12 speed, maybe the slightly narrower 12 speed chain would cure this?
I've bought a 12 speed chain and cassette to upgrade but haven't fit them yet.
Yes, that might be. Luckily for now is barely noticeable and avoidable with better shifting to the small ring at the front.
that’s great Federico! a question: with the electrical group set how much would be the total amount spent with this bike?
Now it should be around the £2600-£2700 all included
@@fede1275 That’s good!
better lighting next time 😄
Professional studio 😂
Hi Federico, nice video! What bars are you running on that build?
These are from Prime (old Wiggle/Chain Reaction) stem and Doyenne aluminium aero bars
What Bike is that? No labels. Great lines. Looks very sharp.
This is a Velobuild VB-R-068, inspired by the old Specialized Venge Vias. Got the frame for less than £500, really fast in the right conditions. I have a few videos on this one and the same previous larger frame in red and white McLaren colours.
@@fede1275 Thank you. Very nice looking bike. Looks quite similar to a Pinarello, (that I can afford)
@@BeachDaddyLB They also do a Dogma replica, but that looked too much like a copy with its distinctive shape, while this one is more a generic aero bike.
What an intro 😂
@@cyclingunboxed Ave Caesar... 😂
I wonder how you check it in as a registered luggage when travelling?! Batteries are unpluggable! Take off both derailleurs?
@@svetokbolshoi I have not travelled with this one yet, but I have experienced friends flying with di2 and sram batteries without problems
@@fede1275 W/o taking it off you mean? Can be a solution))
@@svetokbolshoi they all flew leaving the batteries on the bikes, yes
Federico, i am about to purchase this groupset. My concern is i have a fairly basic phone and i am not up to speed on the latest tech. How would i go setting this up? Brian
I would say a smartphone is required to run the app and do the set up. From the manual there should be a way to do it with the levers, but it seems quite a task. See the manual here to see if you can understand. With the app you can see it much better. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0589/9655/5828/files/EDS-TX_instructions.pdf?v=1707117217
Nice, but I expected that the bike will be around 200 g lighter. What about battery life?
They mention a long life expected, I will check in real terms what it means. Mechanical groupsets are lighter, so staying on the same weight is a good result with the convenience of fully wireless.
Possible to find out of they will offer sprint shifters ?
@@zaahierstanley955 I'll try to ask!
How much clearance is there between the back of the drive side crank and the front mech?
@@barryherron5351 a few mm, not sure exactly. But I might not have fitted the front mech in the ideal position
Every "influencer" seems to get a wheeltop groupsset these days 🤣. Is there even anyone buying that stuff?
I know 😀😀, but at the same time it is difficult to market a new product where the big brands operate
@@fede1275 definitely cheap good ads 😅.
Excellent & a very informative video as always Fred keep it up & can i take the pleasure in formally welcoming you to the electronic groupset club as there is no going back to mechanical shifting now trust me 🤣 i personally haven't got this groupset as im abit of a "snob" & been using Shimano Ultegra Di2 for the past 8 years or so & just recently upgraded to its 12 speed version the 8100 series but yeah love your continued assistance & support that you share with us all about your experience, knowledge & your endeavours in all thing's road biking...,we salute you Sir have a fabulous & wonderful day 👊🏾👍🏾
Thank you! I really wish Shimano would also develop a fully wireless set up and maybe offer rim brakes as well for the small minority!
@@fede1275 Fred, the new version of Ultegra that i upgraded too the 8100 series is almost wireless as it's a Bluetooth system & the only wires are from the battery installed in the seat post that connects to the rear mech & also the front mech where all wires are internal..,no wires run from my levers only the hydraulic hose line for the disc brake system & yes totally agree with you that Shimano should do a rim brake version but i guess it all boils down to cost & is it viable for them to do so 🤷🏾♂️
@@govermentsoundsystemrootik8887 possibly there is still a market for rims in the far east, much less in Europe and the US, so some brands still offer the option
@@fede1275 I'm inclined to agree with you Fred as depending on where in the world one lives dictates what's available in brands etc so on & so forth that you can get as here in England we are limited to mainly to the main 3 brands but those of us who are "savvy" enough can source parts from other brands thats as good & can give these mainstream brands a run for their money as like i said the main top brands of groupsets that we have here should indeed pay attention don't you think 🤔