Agents of Change; Psychologist Reacts to Arcane Episode 7
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Ekko's tactic against Jinx on the bridge was genius. By dropping the watch and swinging it, he provoked her into playing the game they used to play as kids. Predictably, she fired at him with the same shots that used to beat him when they were children, and by getting her to do that he was able to avoid the shots and beat her this time around. That's what the new animation was showing us; the old childhood sequence of actions that always led to Jinx beating Ekko in their game, mixed with Ekko's envisioning of how to avoid the shots this time, followed by the "rewind" where we see Ekko doing things differently this time, much to her surprise.
Also in contrast to when they were kids, Ekko is wearing a chest plate (where he was shot when they were kids) and Jinx isn't wearing a helmet (where she ends up getting hit).
I didn't even realize that
And ironically, Ekko's tactic (as brilliant as it was in allowing him to get the better of Jinx in the fight) is ultimately what causes him to lose in the end. He sought to bring Powder back to the surface so he could exploit their shared familiarity in combat, but in doing so, he *brought Powder back to the surface*. Suddenly, his childhood best friend, whom he had given up for dead, was in front of him again. He can't finish her. And so Jinx/Powder gets her opening.
Also shows how Jinx is stuck in the past, refusing to grow up and Ekko is not, he was forced to mature.
@@Lonaticus "Refusing"? Or more like "can't"?
Can't wait for the 10 hours special episode of you watching the 45 minutes long Arcane episode 9
I can already think of one or two bits of symbolism that'll soak up an hour all by themselves. But desperately biting my tongue on those, really want to see Ed's unspoiled reaction.
As for why some arcane psychology videos might be quite short, it all comes down to the format.
Your reactions are really long, because you watch the whole show on camera (some scenes multiple times), interact with chat, tell stories and talk about relevant psychology topics in every scene where it's possible.
Someone else might for example pick a topic - let's say "Jinx and PTSD" - pick only scenes relevant to that topic, show only few sec snipbits of those scenes, trusting that the viewer seen the show and knows the context (and avoiding DMCA), and talk about it in a concise way thanks to writing a script beforehand.
Both formats are valid, they are just different.
Ekko is a truly fascinating character. His archetype is one that isn't used very much, the neutral hero. Usually, there will be a hero, the main villain, and a side villain that usually reflects a dark version of that hero, such as harry potter, voldemort, and draco. However, here, ekko symbolizes a version of what jinx could have been. Also, the fact that Ekko is neutral to every theme and conflict in the show is incredible. For example, Vi and Jinx are focused on the past. Jayce and Silco are focused on the future. Ekko, being neutral, focuses on the present. A good symbol of that is his tree. There is nothing more that could show the present better than just helping people breathe. Vi and Jayce fight with Hextech. Silco and Jinx fight with shimmer. Ekko uses neither. Also, Ekko's fighting style is extremely unique to himself. Instead of killing his opponents, he merely incapacitated them, he paralyzes them. One last nice symbol of him is that the symbol on his face is an hourglass with equal amounts of sand on both ends to represent the present. This show is amazing and every detail only increases the awe I have for it.
The look in powder's eyes brought tears to my eyes every time I even thought about that scene for A YEAR.
if you’ve noticed, every episode thus far opened with a flash back. a moment from a central character’s past. but this episode is the only one that doesn’t. This is pretty interesting when you think about what themes Echo is meant to represent. Every character in the show thus far has been stuck in the past or stuck in the future except for echo who is helping people now. he views what’s done as done and the moment he did think of the past he got a grenade to the face.
It's Ekko, not Echo. Just wanted to point that. No need to edit the comment or you'll lost the ♥
Episode 4 also didn't have a flashback opener
@@housey_ your right, but it had to do with the theme future rather than past since it’s about progress. they also tell tale of the past in that scene too
ep 4, 7, and 9 do not have flashbacks.
@@Hawkido This post is about the fact the episode 7 doesn’t start with a flashback, episode 4 doesn’t start with a flashback but the scene instead has to do with the other primary theme of the series the future (plus heimerdinger does tell a story of the past in episode 4’s opener too) as for episode 9, you got me there lol.
In the game Ekko facing Jinks says, “Powder I miss you” and “I did have a crush,until you started talking to your gun”. In Ekko’s game cinematic he has a mural that’s has a lot of Jinks Art. It is insinuated That Ekko Loved Jinks. Which makes the ending scene so much more gut wrenching. Especially since it seemed that Powder resurfaced long enough to convey a “I am sorry” just with her eyes and subtle smile. She becomes resigned and pulls a pin on the grenade. So She can end her pain. Powder died on the bridge, However Silco could not bare the thought of losing His daughter so he carries her to Dr. Frankenstein in panic to resurrect Jinks. Jinks survived but Powder died.
Also--which came first, the voices or the dolls? Did Jinx make the dolls of Mylo and Claggor and put them on their old sofa to try to pretend they were still alive, and then start hearing them? Or did she start hearing them and then make the dolls so she could externalize the voices?
I suspect the visual metaphor of the jukebox has to do with pulling one story out of the larger collection of stories in the LoL game world--and the statement a Riot exec made that they're really a music company pretending to be a game company.
No, that last bit was a meme made by the LoL fandom. The exec only said it because it's funny.
Watching you get "Get Jinxed"... chills. People think happy-go-lucky Jinxed in the video is an alternate universe but it's actually a dream. Only the end scene where she finger-gun shoots the monkey is real. I think they wanted to go for a more serious Jinx all along but knew the characher design in the game was more fun and the dream version would be better marketing.
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND. HOW HARD I WAS HYPERVENTILATING. WHEN YOU SAID THE LIGHT BEHIND JAYCE, VIKTOR, AND MEL. LOOKED LIKE A BOMB.
Rewatching these videos recently (Playing them in the background while I work) and even I'm like oh if only younger me knew XD
It's fitting that you discuss grief and workaholic tendences during this episode. Today, the day after you posted this video to UA-cam, would have been the 40th birthday of the love of my life, Angela... only, she never even made it to 33. Pulmonary embolism out of the blue, and within a span of thirty minutes she went from upright and walking around to unconscious on life support, to gone ten hours later.
Me? My trauma response is avoidant. I worked 50 hour weeks back to back for the next two or three years. I did try to date other people, but it just didn't feel right and I basically gave up. I devoted the next few years to taking care of my pets until their time came up, and then riding out the pandemic, and now... I don't know. I've been stuck in a loop for seven years making up excuses to keep going because I just don't know what the point is anymore.
All of this is to say that, yeah, grief... REAL, heavy grief... absolutely sucks. It can steal years of your life. So if you have the ability and opportunity, LIVE your life. If the only thing holding you back is fear, do whatever you can to break through it. Life is short.
It's here!!!! Rewatching it again. Istg you're streams helps me correct my sleeping schedule (it's 9 am for me whenever you stream, so yeah gotta sleep earlier than 3 am to watch you live XD). That scene with Ekko and Jinx so great, I always come back to watch it.
I find Jinx to be, if not the most, relatable character to me because I relate to Jinx and Powder. I was very much like Powder as a child both in personality and in circumstance. Now, as a young adult, I find myself relating to Jinx.
The scenes in the bridge are mirrors of each other. In the beginning of episode one, when we first here the lullaby, the enforcers are the monsters and perpetrators of violence, but now the roles are reversed and she is the perpetrator. The only thing that’s stayed is the lullaby.
Even the way Jinx shoots that man parallels to the scene of an enforcer doing the same in episode one.
Also another thing, if you look at the dead bodies in the first episode on the bridge, that little peak we get of it, pay attention to how they are positioned. I say this because in the next episode, a similar scene will be showed, and you’ll find that the bodies from both fights are positioned in an eerily similar manner. Another parallel between the two scenes.
Also also, both bridge sequences end/change with vi leaving the scene looking back at the perpetrator. In the first episode it was to an enforcer, in this one it’s to Jinx.
I just highly recommend you rewatch all the bridge scenes because they all link to each other in one way or another.
Re: other content creators reacting to Arcane:
There's a content creator named Schnee who is focused on writing and themes. He didn't, to my knowledge, do a reaction series but he did to deep dives into the themes and writing techniques. He was able to pull topic after topic after topic for well over a year and each one had a 10-20 minute video including a video explaining how he was able to pull a year's worth of topics from Arcane. Plus something like 50 shorts
And there's another therapist who didn't do a reaction series but she did nearly a dozen videos just under the 20 minute mark that dove into different Psychological elements. She then released a supercut of her Jinx videos which was 2hrs.
Reactors I tend to find go about an inch deep in their reactions. Even professionals who have a reactor side-gig are at best doubling the length of any content they cover. I have never seen another reactor who, say, took a 30 second intro and did 40 minutes of analysis of just it across 5 videos including skipping back and forth to see how individual frames play out and what they might mean.
But then, I've also seen content creators who do year-by-year 40 minute breakdowns (as in, one video = 1 year) of the fall of the Roman Republic, something that another content creator would cover in a pair of 20 minute videos. There's not a right and wrong way to do content creation as long as you're creating content (fuck emoji reactors) - different audiences are interested in different depths of a dive.
Ed? Ed? You’re scaring me. Sometimes, you predict things. And it scares me
Sometimes I scare me too 😬😭
@@psyculturists lol. If I were you, I’d scare me too😂
I was spiralin' once again into Arcane facts and reaction video and discovered you just in time for episode 9!!! I can't believe it! Thank you so much for your work and energy
My favorite reactors are the ones who can combine emoji-reactions with a ton of intelligent reactions. Right now that's you and Aleczandxr(does one piece). Keep the up with the reactions!
This is my personal third favorite episode of the series (second place is the ep 3). From Victors scenes with the Doctor and Jace to just all of the bridge. Plus the song from the fight is also among my favorite songs of the series (although they are all good)
"You should be preparing for war." Yeah, I think Mel took the message a little strongly.
This show raises a tough philosophical/psychiatric question that I sometimes ponder: What happens when one person's improvement in their mental health as in their efforts to improve themselves involve causing mental health trauma or panic for other people? What if, somebody needs to have the rest f the world change their worldview in order for them to feel mentally stable? Is that fair? Is that right or are some people just bad people and we shouldn't let them have good mental health because it hurts other people too much?
Important note: Silco isn't getting shimmer injections into his eye. His eye is corrupted like Rio, his eye is producing Raw shimmer, and it needs to be periodically lanced to release the pressure, you see Silco use it in EP1 BEFORE shimmer was ever used on humans. You also get to see the inner workings of the lancet many times and you can clearly see a LACK of purple glow in the lancet. This show isn't know for minor mistakes like that. When Jinx jabs him in the face multiple times, there is no shimmer leaking from the jabs, only when she properly hits the eye do you see shimmer squirt OUT of the eye. The needle is not hollow on the lancet. The Doctor uses this as the basis for trying to cultivate Rio into a source of donor tissue capable of producing shimmer.
He said, regarding Ekko being neutral, that that's okay and it signals "you're not afraid of me, you're not pulling away". But I wonder if that's universally applicable really. I think, yes, for a person who is blunt, confident and grounded like Vi, it signals "okay". But if it were Jinx, instead of Vi, I reckon that due to her insecurities and need for validation, acceptance and belonging, "neutral" means "rejected". Or at least that's typically how I've felt when someone I used to be close to isn't reciprocating my attempts at reaching out. For me, it triggers "oh no, they hate me. I've ruined everything. I can't fix it. It's too late" etc and I go into pure panic.
Extreme ling term commentary for arcane….I really needed this..especially when compared to other reaction on youtube
The firelight bombs were designed to find guns and explode. I love that Caitlyn giving up her gun to save Vi in the previous episode was the reason that she survived that. Otherwise she would’ve been targeted by a bomb too.
Okay just to clear it up, Ekko does not have any abilities in the show (as of yet atleast). He can't rewind time. The watch thing is showing him constantly timing her movements. He loves doing that with everything. He did it in the fourth episode fight. He has probably timed jinx's movements dozens of times in childhood and has definitely fought her numerous times in adulthood to know her exact move set which is how he avoids every bullet. Again, no time stuff here.
4:18:40 Puppetstringss in chat, the toxic air is not explained in the show but is explained in the lore. A massive mining accident happened that sunk the place. That's how it became known as the "undercity" and how the other side is now known as "topside". So much toxic gas was released from that mess but luckily, the wind spirit Janna saved the people and henceforth became worshipped by the Zaunites. The toxic air will always be around unfortunately and she can't get rid of it entirely. You'd have to get to the source. If you want her to keep helping you & your people though, you'd have to keep praying to her.
Fun Fact jinx is
The wildrift icon
Have first champ that have music video
The aura of the riot employee making crazy shit christian said in bridging the rift
Have a animate Series Base of her back story ARCANE
Fun fact the animator for Ekko recorded his son running towards him in a park and animated it for Ekko that's why it looks so much like a real kid running towards Jinx.
Oh wow, I just finished watching the last ep and this pops up haha.
Haven’t watched the channel for a bit and video length has really gone out of hands huh. I remember video’s being 40 minutes on average and now they are like 1 hours at least. I’m gonna join one of these streams some day, add to the length.
5 hours is insane, dawg
Jinx vs Ekko is a short fight but the story is a lifetime in the making
Over the course of these 7 videos I've come to the conclusion that Wither exists in the chat purely to just shit talk Vi, regardless of how much reaching he needs to do to construe anything Vi says or does as bad/awful/etc.
i've seen some pretty cringe takes roll by in his chat yeah, can we like call out the guy who said spanking children was fine as a form of discipline? like dude, no.
Going for 5hrs...
Episode 8 going for 6 hrs
Episode 9 going 1 day 😆
31:18 - DC Nerd Moment: Technically it's Man-Bat :-P
OH MY DIGDY DOG LONG WENNER IN THE GAH DAMM HELLISH FIRER IN THE HOLY GAWD IN THE NAME OF JESUS 5HR VIDEO :0
Zaun predates Piltover. Granted Zaun was a coastal mining town, not a grand city.
Zaun was originally a Piltovan mining colony to the South of Piltover hence Vander calling Piltover the "Northside" early on and other Zaunites referring to Piltover as "Topside" or "The Upper City" but the miners they got were incompetent and accidentally drilled too deep into the core of Zaun, resulting in it being flooded, polluted, impoverished and becoming crime-ridden and politically divided.
There was a conversation about Ekko that I wanted to comment on, specifically responding to the claim that "he is recreating Vander's method of lying down with Piltover's boots on their necks". 1. They often go to Piltover as we know from episode 4, their introduction, so what's arguably the worst part of Vander's arrangment has still been avoided.
2. "This is everyone we've lost. The price of our freedom." Ekko, like Vander before him, doesn't believe the undercity needs Piltover's respect to be free, and unlike Silco, doesn't care enough about the rules of politics to let them restrict him. Whether his lifestyle is better than Silco's can be argued, but the fact that Ekko already believes they are free (I mean, I'd feel free using hoverboards and living a big tree) is important and the distinctions between the actual quality of life between the firelights and the lanes is worth mentioning.
When you look at color theory: in Act 1, it is Silco who is associated with green, and he is the revolutionary/reactionary. But in Act 2, it's the Firelights and their leader who are the revolutionaries/reactionaries against Silco and now they are associated with green. Silco in Act 2 is now red-orange (the color of his eye and you see this coding in many of his scenes-- the mist on the bridge, the grading in his scene with Ren, and it only intensifies in Act 3) and they are splattering his eye (he is the Eye of Zaun) in the opening with green.
45:00-ish: Remember this line of thought later on in the show.
1:35: Remember this line of thought, too.
Ed what you don't get is that Echo was in love with Powder. Her going to the dark side, he wants to hate her for her betrayal of him. And I think he still loves powder.
Finished watching the reaction, just to clarify, and this is both confirmed by the creators of the show and other aspects, ekko has no powers of his own, he did not actually rewind time in that scene, and I find that even more impressive because of that, he basically conditioned her to play along and won by remembering the timing and patterns from when they played as kids.
I'm so glad that you can see the toxicity in Silco & Jinx's familial relationship and how manipulative Silco is because there are fans that cannot see this and that is very disturbing. If they cannot recognize how yikes it is what Silco did, then they themselves may fall susceptible to such tactics from others.
To your question about 15 minutes in about whether I'm the same person now as I was 3, 9, 15 years ago. I think I am, but I also view it as though I'm a road that time is travelling upon. The place in the road that happened 15 years ago is a whole different city and I doubt anyone but some Geoguesser savant would recognise it as the same road.
However, not much progress has been made along the road lately, so I doubt an outsider would see much difference in the scenery of the road 5 years ago to now.
So I am the same person and I am not. There is a continuum upon which I have travelled, but you could also say that I am never the same person from second to second, even if I might be an indistinguishable copy until enough seconds have passed. Each step along the road reveals new parts of the surroundings as old ones are occluded.
Incredibly well put💜
Ah yes, 5 hour reaction, it's all coming together
Maybe someone’s already pointed it out, but the reason why Viktor is in Piltover is that his parents helped him forge a fake academy uniform and he started attending lessons in Piltover. When the teachers realised it, Heimerdinger intervened and vouched for Viktor so he managed to stay in he academy for real. It was mentioned by the writers in an interview .
Without an anchor the voices always seem to come from just outside Jinx's perception (behind her back or at the nape of her neck). That is why she built the dolls, this anchor's the voices to the dolls and makes it less creepy for her. Jinx doesn't have Visual hallucinations, those are just the shows way to communicating to the viewer which voices/presence she is feeling. People with visual hallucinations do not need to build dolls to deal with their hallucinations, why would they? The voice would come from the visual hallucination. Auditory hallucinations, if they are external, are disconcerting if they are always whispering at the nape of your neck or behind your back, so anchoring the voices to a doll helps remove the disconcerting nature of the communication. You see Jinx become unsettled/disturbed when the voices are at the nap of her neck or behind her back. Re-watch for confirmation.
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Iiiiiiiiiiii'm baaaaaaaack! Lol!
If you are still interested, there was a side event where you could find Powder's diary from the time after episode 3...
Gods, that last scene is beautiful! The music, the animation, the emotion... damn. I love that you saw Jinx's purpose with the grenade. A lot of people think she was just being petty. She allowed Ekko to see the grenade, knowing he was quick enough to get away. It's also touching that instead of getting to safety immediately, he knocked the grenade away first. It probably saved her life, though "sometimes death is a mercy". Anyway, loving your content, and am sad that I'm almost done binging this, lol! Hoping there's something else you covered that I've seen. Take care, brother!
3:25:40
I can't tell if Silco is manipulating Powder/Jinx here or if he's projecting?🧐
In the undergraund Council, her name is margot
Love the hard work Ed your content is awesome
Thank you ❤️
I feel like if the doctor has one vial and decides to give it to some random person and not my loved one when we have been there... Like that's the doctors issue. Why is their life more valuable than my loved one? I don't think it makes me a bad person to steal it, I think reasons and morality are above rules and law for me. Laws and rules can be too vague for realistic situations. (Also yes I would save ny legacy, I'm writing this comment and watching at the same time) Maybe it's because I grew up on Doctor Who and the Doctor says multiple times that he has never met anyone who wasn't important, but I just can't believe that anyone is more important than the other. Also saying it would be morally wring to let the doctor choose- both you and the doctor know it would save either person, so literally there is no moral right or wrong for you or the doctor to make the choice. If it's a moral choice, doctor's aren't morally more right or better than anyone else, so again, it doesn't matter. Idk, maybe I misunderstood the question/scenario
Personally I always felt that Vi is too obsessed about the concept of Powder. She wants her sister, sure. But she doesn't want her sister how she is now, she wants her 'old' sister back. She wants to FIX who Powder is now, ignoring her trauma like it was ignored all these years.
And yes, Vi was a child herself when she left Powder behind, but even the adults around Powder and Vi seemed to wilfully ignore the attachment issues that Powder had. Nobody seemed to take the time to get Powder through her anxiety, through her abandonment issues.
Now that Powder is gone and Jinx has been created, Vi instantly denies that Powder has changed, never uses the name that Jinx chose and instead tries to revert her to the sister Vi wants her to be. Nobody asks Jinx how she is, nor if she's okay. Nobody sees her as a good 'perfect' being, instead they're seeing her as a project, something to work on and fix to their liking.
I mean, they have had maybe a few minutes of interaction post-timeskip, and even those were not in an environment where they could safely have an in-depth conversation about how things have changed. Realistically Vi has no chance of understanding what is going on with her sister right now, nor her dynamic with Silco. And even then, when they do meet in episode 6, the first things Vi says are 1) I'm sorry, 2) I never meant to abandon you there, and 3) I know that you've changed, and it's okay, as long as we're together. But ultimately, she doesn't understand what's really going on. I think many of us who watch the entire show and have way more information wouldn't even understand, or know what to do in that situation. I may be misreading here, but you kind of make it sound like Vi has no genuine care for her sister's well-being as she is now, but I see that very differently; I think Vi believes she is doing her absolute best to help Jinx. I don't think Vi's methods for that are correct, but I don't think that's because of selfish intent, I just think it's because she doesn't understand, and she has had absolutely no time to get to understand it either. All she has to go on are her preconceived ideas of Silco having brainwashed Jinx, which is why she thinks that if she can just get Jinx away from Silco or get her to 'remember who she really is', things will be better. Vi isn't right, but she is having to make these decisions with almost no information. I think she's generally trying to do the best she can, it's just the nature of the tragedy that the circumstances often mean trying your best isn't good enough.
For me Vi saw Powder as her worst mistake and Jinx is the physical manifestation of that worst mistake. She can’t look at Jinx as anything but a mistake, thus unable to see Jinx clearly and help her
@@Sleawzor Oh I know Vi genuinely cared for Jinx, in her own way. I'm probably biased with my own bad experiences, but I recognize a lot of what happens between Vi and Jinx and how Vi reacts to it.
Yes, Vi had little to no time to interact with Jinx herself, to wrap her head around the fact that her sister has changed.
But Ekko did. Ekko has spent years watching Jinx change and become who she is today. And when Ekko told Vi that Powder is no more, she instantly denied it and told him that She can FIX Powder.
Again, this is probably my own bias. But if someone tells me they can "fix" me, I don't hear that they want to help me.
All I hear in that sentence is "I want to stuff you in a box and conform you to the idea I like. I want to destroy who you currently are and build you up to my liking."
Yet Vi also doesn't want to realize that SHE changed just as much as Jinx did. She used to hate and despise the enforcers, now she's working alongside them to get what she wants.
I just don't like how she's basically tooting the "I'm good, I'm the hero because I have the best intentions" horn while she's doing exactly what Silco has done ; use people to get what she wants without caring if her desires are the best for said people.
@@CleetjeLovesHusky Totally understandable. It sucks when people are treating you as a broken thing they can fix, rather than accepting you the way you are. And I think like, fundamentally I agree with you that Vi is doing a lot of the things you say: she is very focused on an image or concept of Powder from the past; she does kind of want to put her in that box; she definitely wishes Jinx would go back to being the person she used to be. I don't think these are inherently malicious feelings, they're just very understandable thoughts to be struggling with in her situation and with her experiences.
I think what I sort of disagree with is the idea that these things are Vi's main goal, that all she cares about is reverting things to how they used to be, for her own sake, regardless of what her sister actually wants. While again, of course she would love to be able to turn back time right now, I think her actual goal is just to rescue her sister, whatever that might entail. At the moment, Vi's understanding of 'rescuing her sister' primarily involves getting her away from Silco, who Vi believes is brainwashing Powder and putting her in danger. This understanding is based on outdated, seven-year-old ideas Vi has about both Powder and Silco, but currently, that's all Vi has to go on.
In an ideal world, Vi would have plenty of opportunity to get to know her sister the way she is now, to find out who she really is and what she really needs. And she would have time to process all the new information she is getting, and revise her old ideas of what it really means to do right by her sister. But things are not ideal, and she doesn't have either of those things, and so as far as she knows, her only way to help her sister is still to separate her from Silco. In fact, her encounters with Jinx probably only reinforced that idea in her head. That's why she's so willing to go to the Council; she'll team up even with the enemy if it means getting the one thing that's most important to her, which is rescuing her sister.
So what I'm trying to say is that I don't think Vi is prioritizing her own desire to have her 'old' sister back over her current sister's needs; I think, through circumstances, she just has very limited understanding of what Jinx actually needs or wants, and she's trying to do the best she can with what little she thinks she knows. I believe she's genuinely trying to help, but absolutely does not know how to effectively do so. Does that make sense? I agree with you that Vi is not currently giving Jinx what she needs, I just don't feel that's out of some selfish desire, I feel it's because Vi genuinely has no understanding of what Jinx needs and has no real opportunity or ability to actually talk to her and find out. She is trying to do what she believs her sister needs based on the last information that she had, and the tragedy is that it's just far too late; that ship has sailed.
Vi literally acknowledges that Powder has changed in this episode though.
You need an emote when people don’t want spoil anything with ur insane predictions but..maybe that would be a spoilers within itself
What’s hard is, everyone wants to lie, but their lies don’t match up and it gets suspicious.
@@calvinjohnson6242 most of them are terrrible liars
Jayce & Jinx
Piltover & Zuan
Progress & Destruction
Is that one chatter seriously complaining about a girl's alter's near-perfect recreation of a card?? How underwhelming of them to not get the point. It's showcasing how the two personalities have different levels of art skills. Who cares if it's a copy?? If you can copy something very well by hand, that's pro level skills.
I definitely think that mentally weak is like, not easy to tell or define because of mental illnesses and the almost pandemic levels of DIFFERENT trauma and mental struggles that people go through. Like how do you say that this person who has a physically different brain, has a better environment, but has some mental struggles is mentally weaker or stronger than this other person with again a completely different brain, maybe a harsher environment, and lots of mental struggle? How can we know how weak or strong someone is in comparison when it has to di with their mental health and ABILITY. Idk, seems a little ableist to me to assume anything, also very ignorant considering we DON'T have the resources to even define or gauge that knowledge/comparison. The factors that are involved, the intimate knowledge that the person themselves might not even know, and the lack of ability for psychology to even hope to be able to create a test that actually separates the one variable, wild.
Bro 5hrs? Gdamn lol. Love the show but I’m at 35 min and 2min in the show, the proportions talk+show
4:32:09 Could anyone explain to me who Jinx is calling layer? I never understood what Jinx thought, why, and to whom she said that
lol take a shot every time he says "aspects" (don't actually do that we don't want anyone getting alcohol poisoning)
Hey Ed, could you expand on the Oedipus angle for Jinx? I haven't seen any other reactor go there. I mean, she kills her adoptive father, Vander, or her actions causes it, and she clearly wants her stand in mother Vi for herself, seing other romantic/sexual intrests as replacing her. UA-cam lurker here since episode one. Thanks for the great analysis! 😊
Ps. That angle also links the show up to actual greek tragedy weriting for me. Like a psychology and literary reading could intersect there.
not 7h analyse on episode 7 ? RIOT
5 HOURS LETS GOOOO
Also this video is 5 hours long and you didn't even discuss the Vi, Cait, and Ekko conversation?
Uhhh .. 5h ... longer and longer vids :))
How many times can 1 man pause on the same intro? 😂😂😂
Hey, do you plan on picking up Vinland Saga S2 anytime soon? Sorry if you already talked about it but i really look forward to your reactions and analysis
If it gets voted on then yes! I am excited to watch it but when the poll comes live the show that wins the poll gets watched 👏❤️
@@psyculturists ohh gotcha, are the polls on twitch?
@@gooseball100 the polls go live on the discord ❤️
I feel that everyone who watches this show has a habit of empathizing with Jinx, and then getting at least a little upset with Vi, Cait, and Echo for not accepting her as she is.
I get that. I felt the same way at times. But let’s not forget that Jinx is a cold blooded killer that we would demonize and never forgive in real life. And we would be right to do so!
VI’s only choice is to try and “fix” Jinx, because the alternative choice is killing or imprisoning her for the numerous atrocities she has committed. That’s why it doesn’t come across as unhealthy or a red flag to me. It’s quite literally her only hope, to kill the monster without killing her sister.
Because I don’t care what any of you say, Jinx is a monster. She’s a monster who I’d love to give a hug, but she is a monster.
An oppressed teen soldier fighting for a freedom effort against a fascist government is not and will never be monstrous. What a disgusting worldview you have.
Don't get me wrong I enjoy your videos and love the long detailed discussions, but criticizing other videos just because they're shorter than yours is just absurd. As for reaction channels that literally just sit there, I agree, but some reaction channels that cut up the show and only show the reaction highlights are great for people looking for other people's immediate thoughts and feelings, as well as wanting to have someone to "watch the show with". As for "15 minute analysis videos" a lot of them are made after watching through the show multiple times and coming to conclusions based off the whole picture that they then summarize into a "15 minute video" which I'd argue is adding just as much if not more "value" than just posting a 5 hour long video that not many people have time to watch therefore only providing "value" to a few dozen people that have the time and patience.
So specifically for reaction channels that just sit there and then paywall the rest of the content🤣 There’s a lot of others that add elements into their discussions and even have an ending where they summarize their thoughts. there’s some great channels out there as well like Teeaboo, Autosave, Blindwave and others who are amazing in their own right. My thing is even though there is criticism to be had everywhere including my own content, there’s also some good that comes with it that I’ve mentioned in others videos about emoji reactions and other reactors and their impacts on the space.
As for the 15 minute analysis specifically when it comes to using a psychological perspective I’m just curious to how they manage to cut it down to that amount. Other analysis that dive into multiple elements of the show and are updated from different perspectives or chapters often have a lot of discussion to offer I.e. espiritu analysis or NatalieXHunter. I’m curious specifically for psychological analysis if it’s just highlighting the main points rather than delving deep into why as the purpose is to generalize rather than deep dive. Or if it’s because of format, ads, algorithm.
As for the content that many may not get a lot with because it’s too long. I mean some behind the scenes things UA-cam can be brutal algorithmically with videos that aren’t monetized and considering like 90+% of my videos aren’t monetized it’s really out there for individuals who are interested in mental health and are open to the idea of discussing things deeply and have that back and forwarth. I mean as long as 1 person has a takeaway or is helped from being in a dark place or no longer feeling alone then that’s mission accomplished for me.
@@psyculturists Thank you for the response I'm glad you understood that I wasn't trying to be offensive and I completely agree with all of these opinions. I was just unsure from what you said in the video if you were one of the people who see no value in conventional reaction channels I'm glad I was wrong.
Rare civil discussion on the internet. W
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@@psyculturists If you want lots of analysis, check out schnee's channel. He's got 100+ 1-minute shorts, and another 9+ hours of longer format analysis of all things Arcane. A lot of it is from the literary side, but there's plenty on the psychological side as well.
Prior to yours, the longest reactions I'd seen were in the 1:00 - 1:20 range, where there was generally a solid half hour after the episode ended of the guy reviewing different things about the show.
Also, most of the longer reactions happened soon after Arcane dropped. The longer since the show aired, the more likely the reactions are to be the 15-20 minute kind, clearly just riding it for attention and clicks. But then I can't really complain, because I'm always happy to re-watch it again, even if abridged.
I totally agree with you, Mel can be super interesting, but better if she’s gone. Far away from Jayce I mean.
Also, I don’t think Heimerdinger trust anyone, Viktor and everything else are just minor matters to him…
I don’t think so. I think Jayce will become the warmonger and Mel will become a peacekeeper.
@@calvinjohnson6242 That or what you say, she can try to be that peacekeeper but I don’t think it can work now. What I a wanted to say is that, how it begins and continues their relationship is not love, Not really. Jayce is too manipulablexd even if he doesn’t haggle and his intentions were good, he can’t see what’s happening🤔
5 hours, yikes!
He really do care about the community and that is the reason i watch
@@filiphammerstrom7788Was a great analysis, just extremely intimidating opening up the video lol. To be fair, this is my favorite series now and that last scene of Ep 7 is absolute art. It tells so much without any words at all.
not usually one to mention chat, but wither kinda hard projecting their own trauma onto other chatters. relax a bit. talking about a show, not your own life.(wasnt there, just reading it)
as ive gotten towards the end of the video, its starting so sound like a desperate plea to be acknowledged as "clever". im not trying to be mean to the guy, its just getting obnoxious seeing, "the thing i like that people dont notice, (insert thing)."
İdk if you already saw it, but I some people in the chat said you should watch ekko's league trailer, İ would not recommend that, i really think that may be big spoilers for season 2
Haven’t seen it yet but I’ve been told to watch it at the end of the season 👀 Unless I should hold off cause spoilers haha
@@psyculturists I mean, it's not really spoilers since the trailer got released a long time ago. I saw it before arcane, and now I'm more excited to see how he gets to the point he is in the trailer. Tbh all the league trailers are amazing and you should watch them. Considering since it's gonna be like another year till season 2, you'd probably forget by then lol
@@Arsenic805 yeah, but I really think we will get to see he get to something like the trailer state in season 2, although Ed already done d some wizardry on it, so IDK.
@@eduardokerber2931 I mean, episode 8 and 9 pretty much sets up where he ends up when he teams up with a certain someone, so wouldn't be surprised if Ed uses his magic lol
I'm leery of watching your episode 9 commentary for fear you'll spoil season 2. 🧙♂
ED when are you finishing your lie in April man. If you can spend 5 hours on one Arcane episode, you can finish the rest of the episodes in one stream. I NEED MY FIX! T_T
Sooon soon 😭 Been really busy with work and Finals
Concerning Ekko's viewpoint of the shimmer scourge: One viewpoint does not the truth make. None of the shimmer fiends in the down deep were young, all of them were older than Vi. So that source of shimmer had "dried up" years ago, else we would be seeing many more younger fiends. So Shimmer was abundant years ago, but not any longer, Shimmer is only available now as a medical treatment. Years ago there was a giant warehouse full of shimmer that was exploded on the same night the Sherrif was killed. Silco had to abandon that location before the enforcers came down on them. The locals looted everything of perceived value. The undercity black market, once they figured out that Shimmer was both powerful and addictive, distributed the shimmer WITHOUT Silco's permission or blessing. If Silco had wanted it everywhere, it would still be everywhere, instead he is EXPORTING it to other places via airship. You do see people using it, but most of them are clearly powering body replacements (the guy with the robo nose powered with shimmer while at the bar, later you see him with his nose not glowing on the street (doesn't want to smell the street, but does want to smell his food and drink) You do see a guy inhaling some, but is that recreational or a treatment for his lungs (like Viktor needs)? Ekko's view might be self reinforcement of his opinion of Silco, of whom he is angry for Benzo's death. But Benzo attacked Silco with a weapon and died for his efforts. Silco was justified in having him killed, prior to that Silco only killed Enforcers (3 or 4 including Greyson). There was no reason for Benzo to attack him. Why did Benzo think he could scare Silco away with a police baton? Vander told Benzo that Silco fled as a coward after the bridge fight "Never to be seen again". Silco doesn't ever say careles phrases, this explains why he returned the phrase "Vander, the coward, fled the city with his children, never to be seen again." When Vander failed to assassinate Silco, he sought to assassinate Silco's character. Silco really just wanted his friend back, that is why he tried so hard to re-recruit Vander, and was so angry when Vander denied Silco's benevolence and generosity.
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It doesn't matter if it's 'stigmatising' or not, the definition of vulnerable is weakness. If something is vulnerable, it's open to attack. It's lacking defenses, it's more likely to be damaged. At the very least, it's weaker than something that is invulnerable, is it not?
anyway, feedback on the long format of these videos. In some ways it's good, in otherways it's very tedious and frustrating to watch you pause a section for a whole hour and fuss over a concept that's not really all that hard to understand. Detailed analysis is great, but if I personally were one of your patients, I would become incredibly agitated hearing you dwell on a topic for so long. I consider myself really patient when it comes to repetitive or drawn-out content in games and movies (I adopt a 'more is better' mindset for mostly everything and I love long, grindy RPGS and so on). I've been loosely following this series because I think your analysis is really insightful and on point, and I've tried to watch as respectfully as possible through everything, but I've had to skip or tune out several times because of a nagging voice in the back saying "wow this guy really likes the sound of his own voice, huh?" which I KNOW is a very pessimistic and disingenuous way of looking at what you're doing here.
Not saying you need to change your style or anything (niches are good!) but there's a reason why other analysts don't tend to have 5 hour long videos for a 30 minute episode. It's because they are usually more focussed on being succinct and respecting the viewer's time/maintaining engagement. I think if you could maybe try to avoid re-treading ground you've already covered, your presentation style would be much more approachable.
naaa nene estas demasiado pendiente del chat todo el tiempo, qe tal si mirás la serie un poquito? encima mirás la misma escena 25 veces, wtf, me fui
I am about to find you after school mate got alot of shit on vi and I am ready to throw hands.
But I love Vi 👀❤️
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Think on this.
Who allowed powder to go topside.
Who let powder keep the stolen good EVEN AFTER KNOWING THEY WERE BEING LOOKED FOR!!
who didn't take them even when about to give themselves up.
Who said where Vander was Infront of powder.
If she didn't mention it powder have 0 way of following them.
There is one more but it's next episode.
Terrible leadership and sister at these major events.
No way would I bring powder on that mission I give her something else to do.
Jayce & Jinx
Piltover & Zuan
Progress & Destruction