4 Over 3 Polyrhythm - Advanced Drum Lessons
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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Learn how to play a 4 over 3 polyrhythm in this video drum lesson.
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View the resources for this lesson at: www.drumlessons...
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When i play 4 over 3 i say "pass the gosh darn ketchup" so that pass is on 1, gosh is on 2, and the "ketch" part in ketchup is on 3. all other syllables are on the 4 pattern. The "pass" is on 1. The "the" is on the a of 1. The "gosh" is on 2. The "darn" is on the and of 2. The "ketch" in the word "ketchup" is on 3. and the "up" in the word "ketchup" is the final note within the 4/3 pattern on the e of 3, than ending on 4.
Ha ha that is a funny way to think of it.
Great little trick!
Thanks for sharing! ;)
Just read this today and I can't believe how well it clicked with me
Great Lesson!! Love the emphasis on limb independence, being able to play any part w/ any limb.
I agree! Im self taught from a young age and because i was a lazy youth i didnt do any technical stuff. Very very important as a drummer to practice the frustrating stuff
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I knew nothing about this kind of beat but still tapped it when I was in elementary school! 3:17
this was not easy for me so am glad that I got it!
Thank you very much for the simple information. I'm a electronic music producer (former guitarrist) and I'm trying to runaway from the 4/4 overused formula to produce.
I'm was aware of the polyrhythm concept but it's much easier to undertand their applications through your examples.
Broken hand by Lamb of God has one point with this exact polyrhythm is played on the ride and snare (3 on ride and 4 on snare), with double kicks under it. I think it sounds pretty cool, so u guys should check it out if u wanna carry on with this 4/3 polyrhythm
Thanks for the suggestion. Such a great drummer.
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I never use polyrhythms, I use tons of odd time signatures, but after this lesson I really began experimenting with polyrhythms. thank you so much drumeo for inspiring me!
Clear and helpful lesson for us drummers just getting into polyrhythms. One mathy thing, though. Twelve isn't the lowest common denominator of the integers 3 and 4. It's the least common multiple.
In the words of the great Josh Nichols, this gives me headaches..HEADACHES!!!
I'm learning a polyrhythmic piece for piano and this guy actually helped a lot!
Impromptu Chopin?
I do this all the time!!!! Its so cool to know what i am actually doing in "theory" terms. it is pretty easy though but I have faith that beginners should learn this without taking too much time on it.
Oh dude, this picture with Xes made a lot sense) I thought I was going to damage my brain trying to figure this mess out, but you, guys helped me out. +1 subscriber
@mattlikesdrumming The '3' is the pulse, so adding a 4 makes it 4:3 In the 'Eulogy' polyrhythm it's 3:4 because the pulse is in 4.
Love the kit sounD! Esp the kick, WoW! Must get one. Turns out i've been playing this for years, without knowing it. Im stoked!
great guidance to step in a larger world. thank you
The way I got it down was to say "What atrocious weather" in my head as I was tapping it out. The inflection follows the beat.
Never understood the theory behind polyrhythms. Now I do! Thanks!
Nice video it's rly helpful. With your approach and the cool intro example, I feel there rly is many to explore. And maybe now I could finally realize what those drummers are playing. Many thanks!
Gotta love Dave!
I thought 3/4 was easy till I got to the 3/4 section in Gary Chaffee's Odd Time Stickings book. Thanks for the insightful Vimeo 3/4 primer.
i wonder if anyone even monitors this channel since they're drumeo now lol anyway, playing a regular four beat with all your limbs and then playing the 3 with your left hand on a ride cymbal sounds cool
so is this like playing quarter note triplets?
Haha, I'm ALWAYS doing this 4/3 pattern at school on my legs like you did... :D
The resources for the lesson link is not working, how would I get the sheet music for this?
Close To the Edge intro ( the best stuff ever )
best explaination on the tube! thanx!
WELL DONE i want MOAR of dis stuff!!
Love you, guy!!!
Excellent teaching...!!!
Excellent video, very helpful to me as a piano player working on Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu :P
YOURE AMAZING WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW THANKS SOOO MUCH. trying to play nocturnal by Chopin and there is a few polyrhythms that are new and so confusing haha. Thanks so much! :)
another great vid thx
Is it easier to play polyrhythms by learning and memorizing the sound of the pattern as a whole and recreate that sound? Of course that falls apart when you want to improvise polyrhythms, unless you already know the pattern sound right?
I'm not a drummer I'm a bass player but the idea of being able to drum at a high-level fascinates me.
lovin' the polyrhythms!!! thnx brah!
Guy guys, you miss understand the difficulty rating. It's not the examples that make it advance. It's the concept. Polyrhythms are not a beginner concept. It's not something you start out playing, and can even be a difficult things for intermediate drummers. Besides, these examples are a basis for the idea. You can make up your own unique beats.
Thanks man! Polyrythms is something Ive always feared
this drum set is cleaaaan! nice video btw
I think the provided chart is backwards.
Can you please do some video, where you will show, when you are playing to some song, how you decide, what polyrhytm do you use?
what i always wonder is wht's the difference between this and 3:4... are they the same? or a different hand leads?
It isn't that it's easy, he just explains it really well
I only use polyrhythms with piano, but this video makes me want to try it on the drums!
thats not a 3:2 ryhthm instead of 4:3?? I mean, it sounds like a 6/4 time signature (and 3x2= 6)
I was confused when you were doing it on your lap... but with the snare it makes everything easier!
Is is bad that I can memorize how it sounds and then play it better than I can play by reading it ?
Funny how many drummers have difficulty with breaking out of a straight four. I am a guitarist and had to sit down at the drummer's kit to demonstrate a bossa nova beat that was 3 over 4. A lot of clave in latin music is in the same meter.
Christ! You count polyrhythms so weirdly. I would count 3:4 as a measure of 3/4 where the 3 part is playing quarter notes and the 4 part is playing dotted 8th notes. Or if you wanted to swap the pulse, you could count it as a measure of 4/4 where the 4 part is playing quarter notes and the 3 part is playing half note triplets. So much simpler to wrap your head around.
That's the truth! The x's in a box is only going to make it harder for those who don't already have this mastered. I was going to leave the same comment until I saw your comment
confused as hell, from explanation this is more to polymeters... or am i wrong... i try to tab this, feel like i use 3/4 againt 4/4
The bar is not the same length for the 3 and the 4. You're counting each measure with the same BPM. They overlap until refining to land on the same beat after a few measures.
An easy way of understand sound difference between rhythmic combonations is to play the secondary rhythm's number of beats walking up a scale to the beat of the original time signature is in
-1 -2 -3 -4/ -1 -2 -3 -4/ -1 -2 -3 -4/
-1 -2 -3/ -1 -2 -3/ -1 -2 -3/ -1 -2 -3
The root note of the phrase changes over time.
I understand that jazz musicians continuously work together in such time frames, but would a polymeter apply more in classical music? It is good to know, but better to know where to apply it.
man you have superpower!
the song Devil's Island by Architects has this same 4 over 3 polyrhythm. I can play it and i didnt even realize that it was a polyrhythm.
great great video bro!
JAMBI!!
ÆNIMA!!
Sir How to groove with this time signature
A cure for ADHD or a cause of psychosis? 😂 very good lesson!
im left handed but play drums right handed... 7 minutes in i could play continuously whilst alternating between playing it left and right handed ;)
I'm left handed as well, but I play a "right handed" set up generally leading left hand. LOL
I find the notation so weird with your chart and the X's. To me it seems the top one should be the 3 pattern and the bottom one should be the 4th pattern hence why there's 3 hits on the top and 4 on the bottom, but apparently it's not worded that way...
When played in 3 bars, it's called a polymeter, when repeated every bar (triplets over 16th notes) THEN it's polyrhythm.
Reminds me of the intro to Counting Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drums
Those acrylics sound nice
super easy!
man I want the tab for the very first intro beat that sounds awesome can't write it...
The majority of music being in 4/4, this is of much greater use.
Your kick sounds amazing.
What kind of heads are you using for it? :p
+Cesar Moreno Lol so right
Can you you do a 7 against 5 polyrhythm please.
Can somebody explain the time signature?
/Im new to polyrythms.. but why is this 4/3 and not 3/4?...
Polyrhythm and Polymeter are not the same thing. You are confused.
Thanks much for your lesson. After spending 10 min watching your vid, I think I figured out that this is definitely not for me. LOL
if you try you can learn it just by tapping, its not as hard as it seems!
You can check out our "Cadavre Exquis" as an exemple : ua-cam.com/video/K72F1mejIaA/v-deo.html
The only rule was - playing 3 against 4 and pass the last 20" to the next one.
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Best way to learn Polyrhythm is by studying African Drumming. 12 is an important number, but so is 24, This is where micro rhythms occur, (taking same rhythm and playing twice as fast.
7:16 8:12
so I can loop em
yay i have a transparent kit too :D
I played these rhythms alot not even knowing i was doing polyrhythms ahaha
But wouldn't you play 3 over 4 over the whole bar? So using triplet quavers rather than playing 4 dotted quavers over 3 crotchets? It seems like odd notation :P
WHen he played the drum beat !!!
i never knew there comes a instance indruming where u hit snare kick and hi hats at the same time
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Isnt he playing a 3 over 4 poly rhythm? because the 4 is the downbeat in 4/4
Beginning sounds like the Grand Conjuration by Opeth on the chorus.
We Can Keep The Rhythm!
Kinda Pantera - Live in a Hole drum feeling .. right?
Is there a 3 over 4 rythm ?
It's the same thing
+ThunderHawk606 hhh i kinda figured it out when i watched 5 against 4
but thnx :D
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so it's 4/4 by 3/4 in this case? Answer me Mr. Drummer sir!
Well, it's 4 over 3, but (as far as I understand) you can play this with any note length, quarter, eiths, etc.
But those particular are "4 over 3 quarter notes"
6:09 me too!
this is more a 3:4 (or 6:4 in the case of that last pattern) than 4:3...
Isn't this polymeter? I'm confused as hell.
+De Command Block Gast That's two time signatures playing on the same beat, polyrhythms fit within each other (the example played above is in 4/4 with a 4 crotchets and 3 triplets or 3 crotchets and 4 quadruplets).
Ugh this is so easy could you please do some more advanced tutorials!!!
Now let's challenge ourselves and play the polyrhythm solo from "Euology," by Tool! :D
ahhahaha the first thing i imagine in my head was danny XD
Kinda like the intro of Move Along - All American Rejects.
It sounds better when you play snare each 3
Pass The God Damn Butter
Marcus Brown yea boii!
Not very difficult and that beat sounds so sick. great tutorial!
super super easy
dude fuck this i wanna know how you found the lcd of 4/3 so fast
Kenwood Dennard can play 3 different rhythms at a time. Mind boggling
I can play 4 at one time-Search John Abraham on You Tube playing "3/4 Samba with African Rhythms"
@@drummer542 Have you tried playing one of those 4 rhythms gradually speeding up or slowing down while keeping the other 3 steady? If not try it - it's easy and somewhat fun.
@@pibroch No, never tried that,
I'll do it while driving >:D
the constants have to be individual for it to technically be a polyrythm.
This guy isn't thinking of it like that (or so it seems)