What If Criston Cole Stayed With Rhaenyra? (House Of The Dragon)
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2024
- In the first video I made earlier this week we explored what could happen if Rhaenyra took up Criston Cole's offer to run away to Essos but this time we'll explore the opposite. What if the knight in shining armor never abandoned his princess? What if instead of trying to steal her away he stayed by her side?
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15:25 How about "May the glory of the house of the dragon burn brightly, from the peak of its flames.. right down to its Coles..."
this is too good
That’s actually pretty good
That is low-key Savage as hell I love it
If the boys inherit Criston's skin tone or dark hair, these traits would be attributed to Corlys's blood's influence, and to the book version of Laenor's mother, respectively. Same with the hair texture, as proved by Laena's beautiful curls. Like you said, it's all a matter of a flipped genetic switch. To me, their eye COLOR, as part of the proverbial windows to the soul, would be the big giveaway. This could be how Alicent starts to realize the truth, when she's presented with [now] Baelon. If the baby is born with nearly-black eyes, it would definitely tip off the ever-suspicious queen. I can picture her, tracking down anyone involved with Rhaenyra's pregnancy care and delivery, and interviewing them. If even one person cracked, THIS would then provoke her to wear her famous emerald gown to a banquet, maybe thrown to celebrate the baby's birth. While this scenario is restricted to the youngest child, I feel like it would the easiest one to maneuver into the timeline. (3/9/2024)
I dunno man, even Rhaenys had Purple eyes, and her hair still had Targaryen silver in it
People use Rhaenys like a big "gotcha" moment for Rhaenyra's kids not being bastards but, it's incredibly obvious that they're not trueborn kids of Laenor
@@thalmoragent9344 I know there was a bit of a fuss about how the show gave Rhaenys silver hair, instead of the black hair she had in the book. They didn't even write in a moment, where she could've commented on how her appearance has changed with age. If you think about the story in a real-life context, as we've been saying, it's all about which genes come through for each child. If Jacerys, Lucerys, and Joffrey had all favored Rhaenyra's looks [fair skin, platinum-blond hair, and lavender eyes], it would've been much harder for her enemies to make the accusation of illegitimacy. (3/10/2024)
Given that Joffrey lives in this scenario there is also the possibility that the children actually are fathered by Laenor. Everyone chalk Lenore's inability off as him being gay (which could be), but you also have to consider that Jace was born within a year of Joffrey's death. So you could assume Laenor was still in mourning the lost of his lover which effect his ability to perform in the bedroom as well.
I agree with that as well as I think it's interesting that they would continue with the plot to "kill" laenor
They would have white hair and be half cast, because the valerynz are black, so no none of then are lanors, however I do believe that her eldest son is ser cristain colez cos of hos hair, it's thr same as Cristian coles hair, and the younger one had, Lord strongs hair
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Well, I doubt Jaecerys is Cole's son, honestly.
Either way, definitely not Laenor's
So why did Rhaenyra still go for 2 more bastards if Laenor could have kids? 😅
@@thalmoragent9344 Simple. She'd already started sleeping with Harwin at this point. Thus Laenor likely never bothered to try again after Jace was born.
I think Cole would be more loved by the fans and the actor in this timeline
Would Rhaenyra have left for dragonstone? She only did that after Harwin lost his temper.
True! She did say something along the lines of "we should've left long ago" bc she realized keeping her bastards so publically viewable was making it more and more obvious who they were. So there's a chance she would've left a lot earlier, as early as Jace's birth if Alicent makes enough of a stink, or she could have never left. I'd imagine she'd have left earlier (Criston may have been an unhinged incel in the canon but he was still smart enough to plan ahead). Who knows if that would've affected things like the dragons her kids bonded with, if they would've been closer to Laena's/Laenor's family, etc. All potentially huge changes, imo
Cool video man, looking forward to your content in Season 2 once it's here.
As for the appearance of Rhaenyra's kids, that people keep arguing about; I dunno folks, I just don't buy the idea that her first 3 sons were ever Laenor's.
I mean, even Rhaenys had Purple eyes, and her hair still had Targaryen silver in it with her Baratheon mother's genetics. Hell, even Jocelyn Baratheon herself was half Velaryon.
People use Rhaenys like a big "gotcha" moment for Rhaenyra's kids not being bastards but, it's incredibly obvious that they're not trueborn kids of Laenor
Exactly! I could understand if one kid has dark hair and even non-valyrian features but all three? Nah, something isn't right about this.
Why are we faking Laenor’s death in this timeline? Since Joffrey is still alive Laenor never starts to spiral so he should be involved in his ‘kids’ lives and doing his duty as Rhaenyra’s consort. There should be no reason to get rid of Laenor
Oh this is gonna be good. Thx for uploading
Just a nit pick Criston Cole is not a commoner or peasant , he’s comes from the very minor house , House Cole in the stormlands/Dornish marches . They are a vassal of House Dondarrion, so a vassal of a vassal . So technically a noble but far from royalty. Kinda like. Little finger.
Landed knights, not nobility but certainly gentry.
@@itsmainelyyou5541 from what I understood house Cole were stewards to the Dondarrians . If what you say is true about them being landed knights which are members of nobility, but are too low in rank to marry into great houses. Asoiaf titles is confusing cause they lack barons and earls etc. but yea landed knight straddle that line but still not a commoner .
@@Fatman_egg_thou4 Yes, landed knights are considered gentry(lowest form of nobility) and not aristocracy-it is an elected, non hereditary position. I should have clarified- most people think of hereditary titles as 'nobility' instead of aristocracy.
Great video. As you said this does feel like a "what if" where most of the changes take place after season 1.
So here's the thing it's actually very possible that their kids could be passed off as Lanor's. So given the fact that Lanor is half black and Cole is dornish it is possible you could pass their kids off is just light-skinned. And as we know from some of the Targaryen Martell marriages Targaryen kids with dornish parents can still have white hair. So who knows they might actually get away with it.
They'll be blonde Dominicans
Honestly that is pretty similar to how they would look@@realBatman-89
@@realBatman-89 basicly
And if they have dark hair, they can always say that the Baratheon blood from Laenor's side/Arryn blood from Rhaenyra's side is pretty strong.
Always love your videos. You do such a great job. Can’t wait to see your what ifs after Season 2!
I have an idea, what if rhaenys accepted alicent's offer of driftmark and allied with the greens in time of aegon's coronation?
@elyskywater Or "What if Aegon managed to run away, avoided all attempts to find him and bring him back, and he was never crowned king?" I'd love to know the consequences of that, especially the emotional ones.(3/9/2024)
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A spare was there. Not a woman.
@@arthurtitangenlpendragon That's true. The Lords of Westeros would have rather had Aemond on the Iron Throne than Rhaenyra. And you wouldn't get any protests out of Aemond either, considering he stops just short of saying he deserved the throne instead of Aegon.
@kaibagirl1790
Yeah true, as much as I'm sure he'd come to miss his brother, Aemond would definitely take the Throne (or, be it's regent, for Prince Jaehaerys) and rule well
@@thalmoragent9344 It probably would've been a regency. I feel like, with time, the power would've gone to Aemond's head a bit, which would've then turned into some very juicy moments in the book and show.
(3/10/2024)
When the Targs breed with the martells the targaryn blood is more prominent so you would assume that bastards of criston cole would definitely look more targaryn
(Reads title)
Me: “LETS GOOO!! Good timeline??”
He’s Jace’s father for sure
Please do what if Aegon managed to run away before the coronation.
Aemond becomes Maegor.
@realBatman-89 Show aemond probably not? Book Aemond, yeah, definitely.
@@chrisanderson7258 I think in the show he's going to lean heavy on to what he thinks being a true dragon Lord is. Especially after being named prince regent.
I think they'll highlight the similarities and contrast to daemon.
@realBatman-89 I suppose that's true, but maybe alicent could curb the worst of it? It's a long shot, but still...
It would be interesting to do one on what would’ve happened if Rhaenyra had her bastard children with Daemon… they would’ve looked Valyrian but white…
Heres an idea "What if Rhaenyra actually told Viserys the truth". What would've happened if she was honest for once and told her father she slept with Cristian instead of letting the rumors about her and Daemon spread. I actually see this effecting not just Cristian, but Daemon, Otto and Alicent as well. Especially Otto and Daemon because it will make them both look shady in Viserys eyes and it actually could be the start of a new beginning for him and Rhaenyra.
What if Rhaena claimed Vhagar?
What if alicent only had daughters
I have always wondered about this too because if she only has daughters I wonder if she would try to marry one of them to Daemon for a better claim
There really was simple solution to Rhaenyra and Christian Coles problem. She could've asked her father to change the rules of the kingsgaurd so that they can marry. Cole could've been her husband and her sworn protector.
Not so simple. When Rhaenyra and Cole get together, the next morning Viserys punishes her by forcing her to marry Laenor in order to fix the relationship between Velaryons and the Crown.
Would Daemon tolerate Criston still being a side piece ater he marries Rhaenyra? Or would he arrange an "accident"?
Is this even possible at this point in the video? 😂
I don't think he would. Maybe he'd send him away or yeah, arrange an "accident".
What if Baelon still dies but Aemma lives?
This scenario would just not be possible. Rt will still have no power her kids will be bastards, Alicent will still be angry n in my opinion Criston will be killed by daemon n Rhaenyra will dismiss this transaction because Criston was always second choice compared to daemon.
Rhaenyra cared for a chance of infamy than the people who supported her. So I don’t see her convincing Criston to be second fiddle for all his life n just accept Daemon to marry her.
I ALREADY BELIEVE THAT 1 OF HER CHILDREN, the eldest is ser Christian coles, because he has the same hair as him. And his younger brother has Lord strongs hair, but I don't believe anyone knows, but can we all atleast agree they are NOT VALERYN they are not lanors children, although she had threeesomes and shit with lanor they were never able to bare his child.... but she clearly has 1 of deamons, and loses 1 ( ot was born. Half dead, with scales and stuff, like a dragon) lanor is gay yes but she tried to father his child, they did do things her a lanor but were never to have children unfortunately
They are still half Valerian because of their mother is.