11 Amazing Differences about New & Classic Star Wars Battlefront 2 (Part 2 - Game Modes)
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Classic Star Wars Battlefront 2 has some amazing differences from the Reboot, like how there wasn't a game mode with capturing command posts until 2 years after launch! In this Series were going to show them off. Part 2 focuses on the different game modes #starwarsbattlefront2 #starwars #starwarsbattlefrontll
Time Stamp
00:00 Cut Game mode
00:34 GA Design Problems
01:10 GA objectives
01:46 Conquest vs GA
02:29 Geonosis fixed GA
03:31 Is Conquest Outdated?
03:55 Capital Supremacy vs BF3
04:56 CS positives
05:36 Capital Supremacy changed BF2
06:03 Classic vs Reboot - Game modes
06:47 Missing Game Modes
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This video was abit different since its not apart of the fact series, rather Part 2 from the Classic vs Reboot BF2 series. Feel free to disagree with the points in the video & next week we go back to more normal fact style videos. Hope you enjoy!
I am a glitch hunter for the original Star Wars Battlefront (2004). I have discovered a very very large treasure trove of secrets that the game has (not just glitches). I think it'll really fit your channel. I would love to discuss the findings in detail with you in a private 1 on 1 setting, as to do these findings justice and properly explain things. How can I contact you outside of UA-cam?
I am a glitch hunter for the original Star Wars Battlefront (2004). I have discovered a very very large treasure trove of secrets that the game has (not just glitches). I think it'll really fit your channel. I would love to discuss the findings in detail with you in a private 1 on 1 setting, as to do these findings justice and properly explain things. How can I contact you outside of UA-cam?
I posted this comment twice from two accounts since I sometimes have this weird problem with my comments not appearing.
i cant tell if your complaining or bitching in this video
@@DramaticPizza Probably both
@@JohnDoe-hh6bkIf ya got some interesting facts I would love to know about them, You can send a message via my Twitter or Insta.
If only they make a battlefront game with dice's graphics and the old battlefront's gameplay
That's my kinda dream game too
That’s all it needed
Been saying this since the first trailers...shit that's what I thought they were gonna do......till I played the demo....then my soul dropped
I prefer the old game's art design to be honest.
A remaster would make it shine.
It was the whole bundle, not only the gameplay though.
So much so that DICE had to go back on heroes losing health over time, the default in Battlefront II.
@@JonatasAdoM I hope when battlefront three releases in like 2099 you can change the graphics to 2005 just as an option
Ewok Hunt is just terrifying... Imagine that game mode, but with a sneaky Grievous against a squad of clones.
Would be soo sick, just like the ep from clone wars
@@Hero_of_Sinnoh Worse than that. Give him some special abilities like a grappling Hook with which he can pull someone into the dark and people will get nightmares ASAP.
I DID THIS! I DID THIS!
In Battlefront II, ambush the clones at the bridge of the Tantive IV and pick Greivous.
You'll mow the clones as they have no where to go. Do not let them leave to the rest of the ship.
The first few minutes pretty much sums up why I still prefer the original Battlefronts and love the Geonosis GA map: its focused on being a sandbox for teams rather than a linear show of "look at this cool thing we did". I love Battlefront 2017 but I feel like Capital Supremacy was the direction they should've went for from the start. Its a shame we'll never get a third entry from DICE with all they've learned over the two previous games. On an additional note though, Geonosis is probably the most unbalanced map in the game because the walker health is so high and the CIS gets less vehicles than the Republic. If they got 3-4 AATs or the Walker health was reduced it'd be more balanced.
It's fun and all until none of the players plays the objective, as is usually the case, and it wont move forward.
I had a similar variant of this happen when players got the rebel AT-AT stuck on Endor and the game just wouldn't progress, because no one of the Imperial team cooperated to get the rocket launchers and take out the walker. Everyone just kept mindlessly shooting trash units.
You also see this stalling in HVV, Blast and Strike. Those modes that can be endless if no one plays the objective. So forcing the walkers to move avoids players stalling the game
@@Matt..S I have very rarely seen players attempt to stall a match except for when HvV was target based and the targeted player would run away the entire game. Even on Geonosis there's always 2 or 3 players moving the AT-TEs up. If people are stalling in HvV or Strike that's purely up to them ignoring the objective which you can't control for.
@@alexmauney9705 Are you an active player?
Geonosis is usually just a party between Leia/ARC cheesers and droid snipers while low level players try to work out what to do with the atte they managed to get into and some guys use droidekas to take them out if they manage to even get to them, since they usually are still in the now greyed out area
@@Matt..S Yes, I played last week on it and Crait. I'm not saying its perfect by any means, if anything its probably the most broken in terms of balance (the CIS very rarely wins even with a coordinated team), but despite its flaws its still the most enjoyable map imo for those traits. I'll take all those annoyances over how most maps are just corridor grenade spam so you can hold a button on an objective. You do run into those players but every map has some form of cheese that can ruin it (Y-Wing bombing runs on most GA maps, Droideka rushing in Capital Supremacy, AT-ST spam, hero spawn camping, etc).
@@alexmauney9705 Hm I think the clones have it much harder, because the atte is easy to take out.
Yeah some maps really struggle in the end phase. Endor and Naboo are just plain tedious and boring at the end, especially because the spawns are so far away from the action and the timer annoys the hell out of me.
When Dice finally regained creative control they did a fantastic job bringing the game back to life by focusing on content from the Prequels/ The Clone Wars while reimagining how they wanted to make meaningful game modes.
Geonosis was the peak of GA and a prime example on how a battlefront ‘Rush mode’ should have been handled from the beginning. And Capital Supremacy was the most intense and engaging mode the franchise has ever experienced, breathing new life into the conquest style game mode by giving both teams a clearly defined result for victory (destroying the enemy ship) while keeping their freedom of movement across an open map. Resulting in a very meaningful and teamwork focused experience that kept you coming back for more every time.
I’d rather they add a normal conquest mode with reinforcements (not the classes), with vehicles on the map. That provides more engagement to me than capital supremacy, if I wanted galactic assault style gameplay then I would’ve played galactic assault. If capital supremacy was just suppose to be a mix between conquest and galactic assault with conquest being its own thing then I wouldn’t be upset with capital supremacy. Empire era capital supremacy isn’t conquest either as it too misses the reinforcement (lives) system; conquest wasn’t domination. It was team deathmatch and domination combined together in one mode while capital supremacy is either domination or galactic assault
I really love geonosis on GA, when both teams have great players the match is chaotic and fun. But when you get into those noob lobbies while defending as the droids, it's almost impossible
Just like the simulations
Still can’t believe EA stop working on Battlefront 2 right when it was at its peak and they pull the plug.
They had no incentive. No microtransactions. They were only updating the game after the catastrophic launch for good pr and Disney might have made a contract with them where they must update the game until episode 9 movie. Still dont know why EA couldn’t just add a different microtransaction system or release a support the developer bundle to keep updating the game.
Honestly such a shame. EA killed the best modern Starwars game when it could have grown to become the best of all time
2:54
Geonosis is actually the least balanced map in the game- the republic win something like 90% of matches according to DICE
Those statistics aren't up to date. That was accurate for the month following the launch of the map. Since then most players have come to understand how to efficiently take down ATTE's quite easily. If both teams are competent it goes 50/50
While trying to capture new footage for this video we managed to find a lobby for GA Geonosis, We won on both CIS and Republic. The results comes down to the players and the team more so than any other GA map.
@@invaderIRK1 Nah if most players are competent the republic wins (assuming they get past phase 1). Not only can the republic win phase 2 before even getting onto the plains section (by positioning the walker correctly you can destroy the tower things before going down the slope) but on the third phase the republic have Leia and ARC troopers who can two (or one in Leia’s case) shot any standard unit (other than heavy in Leia’s case) from across the map.
Yeah, you might have been able to win as both- being a presumably competent group of players working as a team with good communication, but most matches don’t have that. I find that on geonosis the republic wins probably 80% of the time and I can’t remember the last time the seps won on any phase but phase one
@@Anonyomus_commenter what group of players? We never play in big groups, it was literally just Sinnoh and myself playing together. The rest of our team were complete randoms who we didn't communicate with. Yes Im aware of the walker exploits and the op Leya. Shes Op on every map that has a large open area. We faced everything you just described and came out on top when playing CIS, we also know how to counter play CIS flankers and focus long ranged snipers and explosives spamming heavys using the ATTE's which is how we manage to win playing as the republic. In our experience we feel Geonosis gives the players the most control over the outcome of the battle over any other GA map.
The opposite of the defending side usually winning in modes like this
While I disagree on a few points about GA, Geonosis was arguably an amazing improvement and I really wish they added at least one more GA map for the OT and the ST with the same philosophy.
Thank you for all the use for information about Star Wars balfront 2 Stuff, I did not even know.
you forgot that in classic 2 or more players can control vehicles also on tanks and you can took engineer class and act like a astromech droid by jump and staying on the tank
I think I already mentioned this in Part 1 - Gameplay
This is hands down the best channel for OG BF2 facts. What could've kept the BF2 2017 alive is a multiplayer server list, better single player options and a wider range of mod tools (Similar to OG). Additionally there were too many game modes that people didn't play.
I would love a modern Galactic Conquest and GC with online versus multiplayer
One thing that pissed me off was how restricted the non-GA game modes were in terms of vehicles you could control. A Hoth Battle without ATATs and speeders is like pancakes without syrup, but that's what supremacy on Hoth is.
In the OG game, those modes had the vehicles because the environment would be incomplete without them, and they were fully controllable by the player and aided the team in battle.
Loved the vid! Thanks for the credit in description where you used my gameplay! Much appreciated!
Glad you enjoyed! & no worries, I always try to include other footage not mine in description. & your vids are always look so clean, love the cinematography style you implement.
Your vids are very informative and professionally made. As a Star Wars fan myself, I'm happy to see my gameplay being used for them. If you need anything for your vids in future (footage of specific maps, characters, weapons, etc), feel free to drop a DM and I'll most likely have a vid of it somewhere on the channel which I can source for you (or I'll record new if need be)@@Hero_of_Sinnoh
@@nocommentarygaming546 Thanks appreciate the help! Will do i'll let you know when something comes up :D
You've brought up excellent points about both games. Captial Supreemcy hit the nail on combat. Wide open combat to start the match, then linear objective based combat later. I do still wish aircraft was aviable in CS, expanding the sandbox more. But youre right, CS should be the main game mode of battlefront like how operations soon became the go to gamemode of Battlefield(operations is better than conquest fight me). I do wish we had more control in the CS game mode. More vehicles with mutiple seats to encourage team work. Also i would love it if we got to piolt a LAAT and bring our friends to the ship on our own. Make it like a "trech run" section to see how many ships can land inside the hanger
The thing is, im playing both games on the xbox one rn. And i could play tge 2005 galactic Conquest-for like 2 or 3 hours straight up without getting bored. In the 2017 bf2, it all started pretty good with full lobbys and really fun battles. But since EA gave up on it the waiting for a round to start got really annoying ans made me play the standard coop mode. And what really botherd me is that u actually have only felucia, the CIS dreadnought and Geonosis where ur attacking witz the Republic even tho that after playing for an hour u already seen like everything. Tge 2017 one had tge potential to be way better then the 2005 one but its sad that its not that much of an improvement to it's origin
For me, I don't know what it is, but I also find the original a lot more immersive. Maybe it's the simplicity of it or something, where no one's using weird power ups or all different kinds of weapons or something? I don't know. But I feel like a part of the battle a lot more in the originals
My personal best in Capital Supremacy was around 750 kills in one match damn
You just need good teammates to win a game.
Which is why classic battlefront and battlefront 2 will forever be superior to the bullshit we got years ago.
And i love that our classic battlefronts are still alive and strong today.
Love how your videos are simple and literally to the point 🫵🏾🐐
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the fast paced editing and pace.
Ewok Hunt doesn't make much sense in BF2EA, because stormtroopers have night vision.
Are U getting the classic 2004 remastered battle front 1/2 o can't wait
I liked the rebel mission with the captured walker it was a interesting change of pace
I completely disagree with you. Supremacy highlights just how small the maps are. Removing vehicle combat just sucks severely limiting the player and going up to take the capital ship gets old like the second time you do it
The similar game mode of capture the flag for the EA game is strik/extraction, and is a realy good game mode, my favorite PvP infentry game mode of the game.
3 hour long tennis games are not fun. I dont understand why dude puts it like a good thing
Didn't have time to clarify, although I don't like it always being a very long match, I was saying the feeling of both sides constantly trying their hardest for such a long time hasn't been replicated since, especially winning that feels like an actual battle. The matches could have defs been shorter (Faster base counter etc)
Winning a 3 hour battle playing as the republic during the double reinforcements event on Kamino supremacy was literally the best online experience Sinnoh and I ever had. It was the most difficult and nerve-wracking game we've ever played but that just made the victory taste even better.
After battling swarms of Droideka that infinitely cap command posts by rolling around with 80% damage reduction endlessly without any tanks to act as an easy counter, followed by the most cracked B2 jet droids, Grievous and Maul players to back them up, watching your team push through 3 hours of hell and seeing 300+ kills as your score knowing that means you killed every player on the enemy team at least 15x over by the end of the match.
So many people would quit half way through, but those who stuck it through till the end would experience the most epic victory ever to be possible on an online multiplayer game.
For the republic 🫡
@invaderIRK1 playing 3 hours of a game session in a singular match is a chore, most of a time it is more then many ppl can afford to play. Unless you are a student and it is the only game you play ever, of course.
Enemy players leaving this matches not because they are tilted of your magnificent play on fifth capital ship phase. But because sometime ppl have other stuff to do after such a long drown out slug of a game.
Imo, I there was some kind of sudden death mechanic after, like, an hour, this would be much better.
@@dronnovik95 I was still in Uni back then, but even so, playing a 3 hour match meant that it was the last game . Even if it was the fist and only game of the night. We'd feel pretty damn contempt winning that game and hopping off till next time.
And when I spoke of players leaving the match, i was talking about Players from both teams. Of course not everyone had the time or energy to keep going. But those who did like us were in it for the challenge and enjoyed it. We weren't giving up, we were there to win (was what i meant by that). To you it might not have been worth it, but to us it's what we were there for. Thats all i was saying.
That is 1 of the reasons I really dislike capital supremacy.
Hello discovering the channel , did you tried squad star wars mod ?
Capital supremacy is Titan mode from Battlefield 2142.
Both sides have a Titan that you have to break the shields by controlling the command posts that fires the missiles.
Once the sheilds are down you can land on the opposing side's Titan. Whoever destroys the opposing side's ship from the inside or outside wins.
The difference being that it's all in the same map and both sides have a Titan (the commanding player could move them during the game!). Once destroyed you'd have a countdown to make it to land alive, earning a badge.
So it is similar to Battlefront II's 2005 space battles, but on land and with infantry on the ground.
Capital Supremacy is also a spiritual sucessor to Carrier Assault, a mode introduced by DICE in Battlefield 4, that plays very similarly.
Except the new bf 2 only allows this in multiplayer. Bf 3 would have had single player galactic assault . And if wouldn't be on rails, allowing you to use more strategy with walkers
Battlefront also had a similar mode to Battlefield, which is Assualt (I believe this is what Geonosis and Hoth were).
In which it plays like a normal conquest mode, however the defending side has the majority of the flags and the assaulting side has some sort of advantage and starts on one specific side of the map and has to work it's way towards the other flags.
Battlefront 2 2017 is a worthy successor to Battlefront 2 2005, it’s the best Star Wars multiplayer game in my opinion, graphically it’s still stunning after 5 years, if EA didn’t stop support for it we would’ve more clone wars heroes like Ahsoka and Ventress. The campaign for BF2 2005 is better than the 2017 one but overall the multiplayer for both games are fantastic.
I enjoy them for different reasons.
I play battlefront 2017 for the atmosphere, linearity (more chaotic and dense), and hero gameplay. I play battlefront 2005 for the freedom, vehicle gameplay, maps (bespin platforms, kashyyyk harbor, Tatooine dune seas, etc), and offline aspects.
Both games were designed for different things and they excel at those different things.
I would have put them on par or even 2017 being better if they had Galactic Conquest and made all modes playable offline with bots, like in 2005. A beautiful (mostly) multiplayer-only game is worthless when the servers go down, playerbase dies or is left with only a ton of hackers left.
3:34 RIP those snowspeeder pilots
ikr 😂
I feels like galactic conquest would be good if they could integrate what helleiver 2 is doing rn
The asymmetric and phase-based game modes of the newer battlefronts are the worst. They should have gone with conquest and space battle similar to the predecessor from the start.
I have played the space battle from battlefront 2005 and it still holds up today, while the space battle game mode from battlefront 2017 does not
Although it didn't have a good variety of maps, I thought the maps in Battlefront 2015 were beautiful, possibly the best in the series. The dingy halls of the Cloud City carbon freezing chambers always stuck out to me, and that's not even mentioning the beautiful ica caves of Hoth or the sulfuric flats of Sullust. BFII 2017 has some great maps too, Starkiller Base and Crait come to mind, but nothing as beautiful as BF 2015.
That said it we're looking at map layout and variety, I'd have to go with BF 2004 or BFII 2005. Every map from those games felt unique, whether it's the 7 CP Rhen Var: Citadel or the 4 CP Tantive IV. Endor was long and narrow with wide open spaces, Mustafar was clustered and chaotic. Every little map had so many Easter Eggs, a great example being the Death Star with its playable trash compactor. Polis Massa lets you walk in space but only as the Droids. I mean come on. Every map is a classic. 👏
Comparatively, a lot of maps from BFII 2015 feel kind of same-y. Every -conquest- Supremacy map has exact 5 CPs arranged in roughly an X pattern, and most Galactic Assault maps feel straight and narrow.
BF2EA looks way better what are you on?
Just because BF2EA doesn't have all of the BFEA's maps doesn't mean it's worse.
@@MarsiB013for some reason, ea battlefront 1 looks like complete garbage on my Xbox series x. I don’t remember it looking this bad and it doesn’t look this bad in videos of it. I wonder if the Xbox series x is doing something to make it look bad
@@paulallen2680 I don't know about that. I have an Xbox One S.
BFEA has beautiful graphics (except for Chewbacca) but BF2EA is better. Surfaces, lightsabers, blaster bolts, textures etc.
@@MarsiB013 for some reason, the game looks good at some parts up close but then it’s get extremely pixelated. The older games I play don’t do this besides ea battlefront 1 which just confuses me
@@paulallen2680 Maybe that's a Series X problem.
There is a CTF mode, but no one plays it unless there is a daily.
Strike. The Takadona, Kamino and Death Star map.
I think the most ironic thing about Battlefront is that the old ones were inspired by Battlefield, but the new ones, which were actually made by the Battlefield developers, were more like Call of Duty, if anything.
As a Battlefront 2017 veteran, no class or reinforcement is EVER useless. No matter the gamemode or circumstance. So that part I have to disagree with.
Clone Wars FTW, I do like the original BF2 how it's not fixated on rails cause it's frustrating to defend until the final wave
Now a Battle Royal between Stormtroopers sounds like a good idea basically like if they're in a simulation for a Death Trooper promotion
Plus we need a horde mode for BF like a melee only droids for the clones and zombie Troopers for the Stormtroopers and Rebels
A cod zombies mode or a better survival mode like the one from mw3 would be fun modes. I loved Ewok hunt, but it got stale very quick because of the lack of maps
I never won a match on geonosis with the droids...
Please at least for the first hour title the part 3 video "not out yet :/"
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the algorithm will not forgive us for that one
Battlefront is most memorable for the battles with AI. If they wanted to do a big multiplayer battlefront, they should have just reskinned BF4.
2017 battlefront 2 good
If only dice didn’t mess up the franchise. Granted towards the end they did improve but imo it was too late
Thanks for bringing up the problems of GA. Some special units becoming useless because of the map lay out change was always annoying. The grenade spam at the end of the match was always annoying because of the tight spaces also. When all the maps were released for supremacy, it was my favorite mode but the lack of mixed heroes and only the prequel era getting the most full lobbies really hurt the replayability over time for me. Now the only modes getting full lobbies for me are co-op and HvV.😟
I just think the game is too repetitive. It doesn’t offer much of a sandbox experience. It has good mechanics and controls, but everything just feels very scripted and linear.
@@paulallen2680 I agree. EA battlefront 2 isn't a star wars "game". Its a star wars "simulator" roller coaster where the players are guided by the devs wishes. I don't think Dice even cared that much about hero design because of how the maps were made to force players closer to eachother. With Kashyyk for example, the 2nd phase inside the tanks is probably the worst 2nd phase in GA because both sides are GARUNTEED to lose heroes because the of the cramped space. Over time I see more people trash Dice as a studio so at least I'm not the only person with these feelings. I just wish there were more sources to understand Dice's mindset.
Geonosis NEVER populates for me 😕
As much as the reboot suffered in the beginning, adding things like Geonosis, Capital Supremacy, and Co-Op really helped save this lackluster game and turn it into the game it was always meant to be and a worthy successor to the OGBF2.
It has become one of the best Multiplayer SW games but it's far from being a worthy successor to the OG BF2.
@@MarsiB013agreed, they missed the mark way too much still. It’s still way too restrictive than the OG BF2 was
@@aniplays948 Also BF2EA's campaign is pathetically bad.
Not to mention that both games are in different SW continuites. The OG is in the EU/Movieverse, the EA one is in the shitty TCW/Disney Canon.
i disagree entirely...galactic assault is the only fun mode i never play command post game modes is just boring and dispersive...capital supremacy was a huge let down
The reboot was just not a very well designed multiplayer game, really.
EA had the ball super glued to their hand and still fumbled the ball with these games. Might be a unpopular opinion, but I don’t even like the gameplay of these games🤷♂️I think it looks unappealing. Too visually noisy. The hero combat is somehow worse. There’s nothing I like about these games.
The thumbnail is from bf1 classic not bf2 classic... Maybe actually play the game first.
EAfront is trash. Plain and simple. I bought a key off G2A for EAFront 2, and I'm glad I didn't directly give them any money otherwise I'd have felt ripped off. I only got about 50 hours of gameplay in it before getting bored. It's just Battlefield with a Star Wars reskin. Meanwhile, I have 474 hours in 2004 Battlefront and 598 hours in 2005 Battlefront 2. No Galactic Conquest is a deal breaker for me, but also EAFront has less units (No engineer class is another deal breaker for me). Less weapons. Less maps. Less vehicles. Less heroes. Less modding support (easy to make maps for classic Battlefront). Space battles are also weak in EAFront and the campaign sucks. EAFront only has better graphics and that's about it. I have an RTX 4090 and could play EAfront in fucking 8k at 60fps no problem and I still wouldn't play it. It's just that unlikable. Zero charm of the originals.
Skill issue
@@MarsiB013 You're right. EA does have a skill issue. They can't publish good games.
@@MarsiB013 I think I'm just going to stick with the games I actually enjoy playing, which are the classics. Nothing to do with skill. EAfront is boring. Plain and simple.
@@MarsiB013 You should know how superior the classics are as I've seen your comments on the Battlefront 2 Remastered mod videos.
@@-CrimsoN- It is superior but BF2EA is one of the best Multiplayer SW games still.
The reboot sucks
Damn this guy complains a lot
Who actually plays battlefront EA? The OG games are available on microsoft store for $10 each and are worth every penny. Battlefront EA games are absolute garbage.
Wrong. I play both of them.
I do too @@MarsiB013
Nah you're just a hater. The game is very much alive
Nah ea bf2 is very fun. Have you played it?
Crazy the level of EA apologists. Yes I played both battlefront EAs when they came out. Was actually the biggest waste of money I've ever spent other than battlefield 2042