This is late, but for everyone talking about his technique, I just wanted point out few things. - He's playing Warped Tour, which means the band only gets a 30 minute set before they have to get off the stage for the next band. Because of this, the setup of his drums were probably rushed, and he didn't have time to get them into a more comfortable position. Try playing with your seat even 1 inch closer to the snare than you're used to and you'll see what I mean. - Warped Tour is a party tour, and DGD is a party band, these guys probably get wasted every night, and are exhausted from being out in the sun all day. On top of that, Inspire The Liars is the last song in their set, so it COULD be that Mingus just doesn't give a fuck and is dicking around. (with the fills and etc.) - Mingus has been playing professionally for this band and others for more than 10 years now, if he's really been using this technique the whole time, it's amazing he hasn't hurt himself. - I'm not sure if it's officially stated, but stuff he says in interviews suggests he was self-taught, or had little instruction from others. Keep in mind, when Mingus was growing up, he couldn't just look up Drumeo videos, so he might not know the "perfect technique" Nonetheless, Mingus still plays this song very well, and consistently plays well live for DGD. Just look at his other drum cam's and you'll see that he is a very talented and creative drummer, especially for being able to write and keep up with this kind of music.
I don't see much wrong but all these points have zero validity if you are actually playing wrong. A lot of drummers are self taught without Drumeo videos. Rushing his drum set up is also a pretty BS excuse...
I love drummers who do exactly what comes to them and express themselves. This is exactly what he does here. Most people's idea of perfection is executing a textbook way of doing things. Take away that textbook and you have what I consider perfection. Untamed creativity.
That’s because not only does he have speed and excellent precision / timing, but he can make a melody with his kit, which is a rare and hard skill to master. He has a very well versed background In his instrument. A lot of musicians learn a genre and not their instrument. He learned his instrument then the genre which allows him to have a lot more creativity and dynamics. If you watch drummer of I Prevail: Gabriel Helguera’s UA-cam channel “Drum Beats Online” he really goes into the importance of those things I listed. There’s more to drumming than a fast double bass and hands.
If you like different drums in post-hardcore bands, I'd recommend checking out Night Verses. They're probably moreso post-rock now, but their older stuff (when they still had a vocalist) was definitely on the post-hardcore side of things. Their drummer is absolutely one of the best in the game right now.
He’s copying Anthony green look up Anthony green with saosin at arlenes grocery or something like that. So yeah it is kinda cringe because Anthony green did it first
I can confidently say that Matt's technique has nothing to do with the way his drums sound live. He is such a consistent player that he sound checks perfectly, and the sound guys get everything right for him. I got to watch their sound check at Union Transfer in Philly and in that live setting Matt sounds exactly like the record. To define a great drummer, you don't look at technique close your eyes and listen. If you like what you hear the technique shouldn't matter.
that sums up DGD to me. close your eyes shut up and just listen and every time I'm amazed by what me and others find. this video like you said makes that point clear everything is so exact and clean.
Birch or Maple-Shell. Remo Clear Emperor Heads. Low to medium batter-head tuning & medium to High Resonant head tuning. A small strip of tissue (2 x 2 cm) under a strip of tape on the side of the batter heads (as seen in this video).
@@herrsebastiankoenig I think die cast hoops so I have the same kit put in black they sound way better than any kit I have played in my life and I own them now.
Mingus is one of the best drummers period. his groove reminds me of young David Silvera from Korn first two albums, except he's kept that magic from the beginning to current. his fills with his feet are pretty amazing. I listened to the OG Downtown Battle Mountain and its amazing how much more technical he got just from that to the second album. Got to watch his at Ceaser Chavez while my girlfriend was in the pit crowd surfing and it was pretty dope, especially being like 20 feet away from him while he played Carl Barker. DGD rules.
@@alexwilson2268 if he sat there and watched them and commented on a drum video, you really think he was serious? Sarcasm, man. Chill with the slander you weirdo.
Does anyone knows exactly what tempo of this song? I count 6/8 at the beginning until the break, then start couting 4/4. Am I right in the second half? P.S: this really got me.
I really miss the Downtown Battle Mountain 2 era Mingus. His drumming has gotten safer and less interesting bit by bit since that album. Still an amazing drummer, but he seemingly has less freedom (or maybe ambition) to do truly inspiring beats.
Seeing some of the comments about the strange technique felt validating. Definitely the first thing I noticed. Just not a desireable style, but well played.
I dont think you understand the topic in question Andrew... I was wondering the same thing Spencer, the pattern on the record seems a bit trickier so he probably doesn't want to fuck it up.
Actually man, those two fills weren't musical. They weren't even crisp/well subdivided trips (unfortunately). If you listen to the record, the fills he plays are perfectly complementary to the guitar licks. Complementing melodic instruments rhythmically is the most musical thing you can achieve as a drummer.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it for the rest of the guys to follow along easier. He seems like such an intentional drummer that it seemed like an odd choice to me.
My point is that it isn't easy to follow considering it battles the guitar parts. If you listen to the 3:31 mark, he does "triplets" again but they actually are poorly subdivided to where theres not even the proper amount of strikes within a sequenced time. The fills referenced in this initial posts sound like he wanted to make them triplets, but he unfortunately failed there, too. Especially because the guitar licks at that point are 16th note subdivisions, the drums attempting to play trips and poorly done so really fights the guitar licks. Dont get me wrong...I'm not trying to disrespect y'all or this drummer because I love his songwriting and I love DGD as a whole. But you guys obviously like him, so you are giving him the benefit of the doubt. He's human tho, and I can tell y'all he messed up at these places.
He seems stiff when he plays but only at certain parts, sometimes i tense up on the vibraphone for matching band at parts. Mad props to this guy though
If you guys are wondering why this song sounds kinda sub par, it's because this entire album cycle was rushed & just kinda written off the cuff. Mothership is a good album, but it's particularly lacking when it comes to creativity. At least Artificial Selection picked it back up, & Afterburner is AMAZING.
spending 80 of your cpu trying so hard to stay in time and still only basically managing it/thinking about gold watches, and 20 percent listening to the band, instead of 80 percent feel and and 20 percent listening
He needs to RELAX bro dam He would get such a better sound out of the drums if he relaxed his grip and used a consistent velocity stroke instead of squeezing the sticks and pounding the heads
@1:35 wtf was that. He's such a good drummer, but that part just didnt work. I suppose when your doing warped tour you get a bit bored and try to fit in new things.
i liked it. it was a 5 count thing. it sounds weird because 5 notes are used to take up the place of 6 notes so they're a tad bit slower than the 6 notes. It's very hard to pull off live. mad props to mingus
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I love how songs sound like an entirely different one when you focus in on a solitary instrument
Not many people know this, but he has a 3rd arm that comes out of his beard to help with the real intricate grooves
Overused joke
@@tylermcdonald9372 cry
This is late, but for everyone talking about his technique, I just wanted point out few things.
- He's playing Warped Tour, which means the band only gets a 30 minute set before they have to get off the stage for the next band. Because of this, the setup of his drums were probably rushed, and he didn't have time to get them into a more comfortable position. Try playing with your seat even 1 inch closer to the snare than you're used to and you'll see what I mean.
- Warped Tour is a party tour, and DGD is a party band, these guys probably get wasted every night, and are exhausted from being out in the sun all day. On top of that, Inspire The Liars is the last song in their set, so it COULD be that Mingus just doesn't give a fuck and is dicking around. (with the fills and etc.)
- Mingus has been playing professionally for this band and others for more than 10 years now, if he's really been using this technique the whole time, it's amazing he hasn't hurt himself.
- I'm not sure if it's officially stated, but stuff he says in interviews suggests he was self-taught, or had little instruction from others. Keep in mind, when Mingus was growing up, he couldn't just look up Drumeo videos, so he might not know the "perfect technique"
Nonetheless, Mingus still plays this song very well, and consistently plays well live for DGD. Just look at his other drum cam's and you'll see that he is a very talented and creative drummer, especially for being able to write and keep up with this kind of music.
Very underrated comment
I really really enjoyed that comment
I think it’s shitty for people to tell him he’s playing the music HE WROTE wrong
I don't see much wrong but all these points have zero validity if you are actually playing wrong. A lot of drummers are self taught without Drumeo videos. Rushing his drum set up is also a pretty BS excuse...
Oliver Labrador how so?
I love drummers who do exactly what comes to them and express themselves. This is exactly what he does here. Most people's idea of perfection is executing a textbook way of doing things. Take away that textbook and you have what I consider perfection. Untamed creativity.
0:41 I love how you can just see tillian vibing while Jon does his part😂
Mingus has the crispest sounding cymbals omfggg
Mateo Jackson he switched to zildjian. They sound so good!
And the crispiest beard
jesus christ you arent kidding. they sound incredible.
Haha and I almost switched from my Zildjians to his AMD's...guess I'll hang on to my ZBT's after all
I want cymbal specs
You know what I like about their drums? It is so different compared to other posthardcore bands.
That’s because not only does he have speed and excellent precision / timing, but he can make a melody with his kit, which is a rare and hard skill to master. He has a very well versed background In his instrument. A lot of musicians learn a genre and not their instrument. He learned his instrument then the genre which allows him to have a lot more creativity and dynamics. If you watch drummer of I Prevail: Gabriel Helguera’s UA-cam channel “Drum Beats Online” he really goes into the importance of those things I listed. There’s more to drumming than a fast double bass and hands.
Not to mention TRIPLETS BABYYYYY
If you like different drums in post-hardcore bands, I'd recommend checking out Night Verses. They're probably moreso post-rock now, but their older stuff (when they still had a vocalist) was definitely on the post-hardcore side of things. Their drummer is absolutely one of the best in the game right now.
Dance Beard Dance
Tilians dancing when they perform is awesome 😂😂
Colin Bailey it’s kinda cringy
It’s super weird
Stop talking about Tillian this is Matt’s video
He’s copying Anthony green look up Anthony green with saosin at arlenes grocery or something like that. So yeah it is kinda cringe because Anthony green did it first
Do you want him to dp you?
I can confidently say that Matt's technique has nothing to do with the way his drums sound live. He is such a consistent player that he sound checks perfectly, and the sound guys get everything right for him. I got to watch their sound check at Union Transfer in Philly and in that live setting Matt sounds exactly like the record. To define a great drummer, you don't look at technique close your eyes and listen. If you like what you hear the technique shouldn't matter.
that sums up DGD to me. close your eyes shut up and just listen and every time I'm amazed by what me and others find. this video like you said makes that point clear everything is so exact and clean.
there is a mingus amongus
holy shit 3 years too early lol
@@ShannonsCompany bruh honestly lol
I can’t believe this comment is from 3 years ago
ok time traveler 😉
How on earth do they get those toms to sound like that?
Birch or Maple-Shell. Remo Clear Emperor Heads. Low to medium batter-head tuning & medium to High Resonant head tuning. A small strip of tissue (2 x 2 cm) under a strip of tape on the side of the batter heads (as seen in this video).
That and heat and warmer weather really open the sound
They sound like mud
@@herrsebastiankoenig I think die cast hoops so I have the same kit put in black they sound way better than any kit I have played in my life and I own them now.
Hank Dapper my name is mud
Is that Will without an afro? That is completely inaceptable #NotMyWill
Yeah, this was "I'm getting thinner & growing up" Will.
A good example of playing to song. Not just showing off. This guy gigs
Please just get as many drum cam videos as you possibly can! Thanks!
Am I really the only one who noticed that his snare and shirt are matching?
Mingus is one of the best drummers period. his groove reminds me of young David Silvera from Korn first two albums, except he's kept that magic from the beginning to current. his fills with his feet are pretty amazing. I listened to the OG Downtown Battle Mountain and its amazing how much more technical he got just from that to the second album. Got to watch his at Ceaser Chavez while my girlfriend was in the pit crowd surfing and it was pretty dope, especially being like 20 feet away from him while he played Carl Barker. DGD rules.
I saw them live at warped, and tillians dance moves made me u comfortable
Brian Green Drums cuz you’re a close minded homophobic little kid
@@alexwilson2268 if he sat there and watched them and commented on a drum video, you really think he was serious? Sarcasm, man. Chill with the slander you weirdo.
What a beard.
Beard game strong
thank u but I'm not even in this video
@@cayeminterviews not implied 😂😂😂
I love his snare 😍
Internet Trash he’d get an even better sound outve it if it wasn’t at that angle
False
Anthony Romeo you’re talking to me i assume?
TILIAN'S DANCING THO
makes it look easy
Does anyone knows exactly what tempo of this song? I count 6/8 at the beginning until the break, then start couting 4/4. Am I right in the second half? P.S: this really got me.
That snare though 🤤
Most underrated part of DGD
Tim is the most underrated member
@@Abasedbymygrief Agreed. Matt gets tons of praise. Im pretty sure he was at least nominated for dummer of the year in the Alt Press Music Awards.
@@emcee_b its cuz Matt is a god. But all members are amazing of course
He also makes one hell of a pot brownie.
its so good even the microphones are moshing
That snares on another fucking level
He has such an unusual style but it totally works and sounds great.
Plays real tight like almost to nervous to let it just go.
When you’re ant to cover this song then you realize even more the reality of the complexity of the song...
min 1:01 same lick ROULETTE DARES / TMV
Fucking, Mingus Dew! $20 to all that get that reference. RIP Captain Murphy.
Pretty sure Will was wearing that exact same flannel last night in Chicago.
Anybody know what the cymbal he’s crashing on is?
I love his beard
YES my dude.
Anyone know what his drum and cymbal set up is here?
My fave💕‼️
This is fun to watch.
Ooh them quintuplets at 1:35 and 1:43 👌👌👌🔥🔥🔥
Caleb Haldeman lol those are just triplets
Does anyone know what ride cymbal that is?
I really miss the Downtown Battle Mountain 2 era Mingus. His drumming has gotten safer and less interesting bit by bit since that album. Still an amazing drummer, but he seemingly has less freedom (or maybe ambition) to do truly inspiring beats.
DtC DBMII was ambitious (fuckin insane) for everyone involved.
Idk man, his drumming on Afterburner has picked back up. Calentamientio Global comes to mind.
He has my dream beard
He's like Goku of the drums 💯
Underrated
Sickkk 222
I'm pretty sure if he cut his beard entirely it would play entire set with no problems.
Try playing the drums to this song, my dude! 😂😂😂😂 What problem is he exactly having? 🥲
@@saddestdayever1276 he was saying he was such a good drummer that even his beard could play the entire set perfectly.
Something seems weird about his technique. But it sounds good so who cares?
Steamy Hot Djent to the Face not a musician if you think it's ok to be rigid. Enjoy playing while you can because you won't for long.
I think his wrist is turn flat like a German grip or maybe it is just the angle of his drum
He's too stiff and holds his wrist out awkwardly before he hits the snare. I've done that before too, just gotta break that habit.
He plays a lot in 6/8 but I'm not sure if that's Will's doing or not.
+Zax Zumu I really don't wanna be a dick but.... Time signature has NOTHING to do with what we're talking about. His technique is just awful.
Seeing some of the comments about the strange technique felt validating. Definitely the first thing I noticed. Just not a desireable style, but well played.
When "Retrograde" by Silverstein?
fuck his kicks are on point though
Snare of god
I watched the live band version of this song and I came here for Tilian's dancing 😁
ohhhh man. 1:30 is what i came here for. yesssss
Super tight!
I wonder why he played triplets @ 1:34 & 1:44 instead of the normal pattern 🤔
I dont think you understand the topic in question Andrew...
I was wondering the same thing Spencer, the pattern on the record seems a bit trickier so he probably doesn't want to fuck it up.
Actually man, those two fills weren't musical. They weren't even crisp/well subdivided trips (unfortunately). If you listen to the record, the fills he plays are perfectly complementary to the guitar licks. Complementing melodic instruments rhythmically is the most musical thing you can achieve as a drummer.
Those were pretty spot on fills, don't what you guys are arguing about lol. Just cause it wasn't the album version.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it for the rest of the guys to follow along easier. He seems like such an intentional drummer that it seemed like an odd choice to me.
My point is that it isn't easy to follow considering it battles the guitar parts. If you listen to the 3:31 mark, he does "triplets" again but they actually are poorly subdivided to where theres not even the proper amount of strikes within a sequenced time. The fills referenced in this initial posts sound like he wanted to make them triplets, but he unfortunately failed there, too. Especially because the guitar licks at that point are 16th note subdivisions, the drums attempting to play trips and poorly done so really fights the guitar licks. Dont get me wrong...I'm not trying to disrespect y'all or this drummer because I love his songwriting and I love DGD as a whole. But you guys obviously like him, so you are giving him the benefit of the doubt. He's human tho, and I can tell y'all he messed up at these places.
Blechhhh
This drummer is rad.
Sick.
1:35 dat fivelet tho
Quintuplets but OK
Tyler McDonald same damn thing
I need more DGD pls
So crisp
Close enough.
He seems stiff when he plays but only at certain parts, sometimes i tense up on the vibraphone for matching band at parts. Mad props to this guy though
If you guys are wondering why this song sounds kinda sub par, it's because this entire album cycle was rushed & just kinda written off the cuff. Mothership is a good album, but it's particularly lacking when it comes to creativity. At least Artificial Selection picked it back up, & Afterburner is AMAZING.
Funny, Mothership sounded way more creative to me than Artificial Selection did. I think that’s their safest album.
I feel like hes just a robot
a robot with human hair
connor ellis robot with human beard
That crash is very annoying .
spending 80 of your cpu trying so hard to stay in time and still only basically managing it/thinking about gold watches, and 20 percent listening to the band, instead of 80 percent feel and and 20 percent listening
TIME THAT BEARD WHITE BOY..
He needs to RELAX bro dam
He would get such a better sound out of the drums if he relaxed his grip and used a consistent velocity stroke instead of squeezing the sticks and pounding the heads
He's been playing for around 20~ years and you want to teach him how to hold sticks.. lol..
Ok boomer
innie721 more time to build bad habits
too easy and he struggles
@1:35 wtf was that. He's such a good drummer, but that part just didnt work. I suppose when your doing warped tour you get a bit bored and try to fit in new things.
i think it worked very well
It's called a rest note.....
Harrison Cable That was a 7-count thing with a rest note at the 6th count like what the guy above said. Pretty cool if you ask me
i liked it. it was a 5 count thing. it sounds weird because 5 notes are used to take up the place of 6 notes so they're a tad bit slower than the 6 notes. It's very hard to pull off live. mad props to mingus
i see what you mean, i did't care for the rest note myself, but it wasn't horrible. but definitely felt like it ended earlier than it should've
Not a fan of that snare at all.
this guy is good, but jeez.. just like the drummer from The Story So Far, so stiff. not really any dynamics. they just play exactly like the track.
What else do u want ? Dude a solid drummer don’t need to add dynamics
Such an overrated band
He seems like he's concentrating so hard and not even enjoying the music
The last thing a musician needs to worry about is how they look when they play. Execution comes first
People give these gentlemen money for this music?
tofuleg yes because they are incredible musicians.
You must fear jazz
Gay music.
Michael Lewis Jones 😏😏😏
Myotic TeSeract it's an excellent time, can confirm
Michael Lewis Jones lol 🤷🏻♀️
Hahaha
Mangus has the crispiest snare in the world