The Viewing FCCOOL FC Holden wagon after crash at holding yard.
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- My 1959 FC holden wagon after a crash into a guard rail on the freeway followed by being T boned by a B double truck,.
Spent a couple of days in hospital with nothing major other than bruising, today we go to look at the car.
I have most of what you'll need to repair this old girl. I have all the front sheet metal (less customisation), the front door & the centre pillar & probably all the mouldings. The turret is a straight forward repair. Even the sill might be repairable.
I'm seeing a blown Red Motor, a HR front end, narrow rims, ordinary tyres & no front sway bar & a very much pranged car.
She's repairable. Leave a reply here if you need the bits. Am in QLD.
Good to see that the old girl protected her precious cargo. Here's to finding a good solid shell to reincarnate her spirit into.
Car is fairly straight forward repair.
The thing that could kill it is the average zombified mindless consumer believes he must have all sorts of evil insurance.
If vicious insurers are involved they might contribute to recovery, towing, storage etc. They may even toss a few greasy shekkels at "Replacement Costs based on their interpretation of Market Value".
They may not offer to contribute to repair costs, declare the car an eternal write off & hand over a few crumbs.
If fool insurance is involved, car may very well be dead.
I'd repair it, absolutely. Even if half the car was squashed flat, I'd still repair it... IT'S AN FC!
I'm glad the video was silent Leon as I was completely speechless. Could feel your pain. Gutted for you. 😢
Absolutely heartbreaking M8! I’m glad you’re still with us.
This video is heartbreaking. Nobody could judge you if you were shedding a tear while you sat in the old girl.
Just remember, if you can build it from scratch the first time, then you can do whatever it takes to do it again. Glad you are ok.
I started wondering why no talking or music
Then I saw the FC and there is no word needed
Glad to see your ok
At least you don't need to worry about replacing the air bags
Hey mate, I feel the absolute devastation with what happened to your little wagon.
I hope your doing alright after all that.
Hope you’re feeling a lot better. Nice to see another use for WD40 I didn’t know about by the way. Can’t wait to see if you decide you can pull most of the shell damage out and stitch in a new B Pillar 😀
I reckon it can be fixed. .
Should buff out, glad your OK mate
very sad ending for a beautiful holden you are still with us mate and you can always getranother fc
Glad to see that you didn't get too beat up in the accident. Can't wait to see what you do with it, repair the car or get another shell and reshell it. I was recently in a nasty accident on the freeway myself, and I'm undecided what I'm going to do with the car when I get it back.
a buff and a polish, she'll be right.
but seriously, really sorry to see that, glad you're okay.
Leon I watched you build this years ago in your yard, I'm glad this post was silent, there are no words to compare to the pain you must be feeling and those who know this car feel.... I remember seeing your car at the Gold Coast show years ago and I was honoured to see it in person... our thoughts are with you and I have subscribed to see your art at work again, if you want it, you have the skill to make it mate !!
Bloody hell mate, not good at all, luckily cars are far easier to rebuild/replace than people.
Hey Man, That is a real bummer, I also had something similar happen to me and a 1957 Meteor 2 dr sedan some years ago . As a Auto body Collison repair trades man of 30 years , I could fix that car of yours, From the video doesn't look to me something that couldn't be repaired.
Look at the rocker panel the hit was over it .One pull on that B pillar and get a pair of doors and a couple of fenders , And if you wanted to chop the top down your could install another full roof from a parts car. I hope you do some up dates . I live in Canada in BC , you guy have some weird cars down under but very cool just the same..........up date us soon. The 57 Meteor got the front end wiped off it from a guy running a red light real mess it was and I just installed a 428 CJ in it
Bent car is 1958/'59 FC Holden Special Station Sedan. (That's it's official title).
These things were red hot popular over here from the day they were born similar to a 55 Chevy wagon over there. A top chop would be a hugely painful excercise.
However; you are 100% correct in your assessment regarding repairability. We've restored worse than this. The greatest obstacle & difference between all Early Model Holdens & the major difference when compared to bigger sister Chevs is all our Early Holdens have no chassis. They're comprised of unitary construction whereby the "rocker panel" as you call it (we call it the "sill") forms the frame of the car along with the roof. Both are deformed in this case meaning the actual structural integrity of this car is substantially compromised. Assuming the centre pillar made up of fairly thin sheet metal pressings (also a structural member) is beyond repairability & needs zipping out, you can attach to it to pull the sill & the roof frame out, square up both, then remove, rejig & replace that centre pillar. All do-able by an old & I mean VERY OLD skilled tradesman. I'm now 62. 40 years ago my younger mate was finishing his apprenticeship as a panel beater. He had an FC Panel Van which you guys call a "sedan delivery". This was his first project & he still owns that car. He did the bodywork while I did the electrics & mechanicals. Van was hit hard. Had belted a telegraph pole head on at speed. Had to have entire front from sills/floor behind front seat & windscreen pillars cut & shut replaced. A wagon was sacrificed to provide the front cut. Van was also rusty & needed sill & floor cuts as well. To my absolute horror at the time (1984), my apprentice mate was instructed to reconnect the various structural members as an apprentice with a mig welder. On butt welds the mig poured molten metal snot onto the job where sill cut met sill cut & then when finishing back to flush all that snot had to be ground off which effectively removed the weld & the joint fell apart. To counter this, welded joints were simply bashed in, migged & bogged over (you call it "Bondo". We call it "bog")... Another UGLY practice was to overlap where no such overlap was normal & weld bits over other bits. This practice is obvious & grotesque & this is what 1980s budding tradesmen were taught to do.
Now this was 40 years ago & many cars repaired in such a caveman way have been involved in myriad prangs causing loss of life. Our gov goons have impounded these cars over the years, seen the crud repairs & totally outlawed such structural repairing of unibody (no chassis) cars.
Putrid parasitic insurance companies tell Aust govs what to do since they pay injury claims. If this car is captive under an insurance policy & gets assessed by any insurance or gov goon it will be an instant write off since structural integrity is severely deformed/weakened/compromised. Body is only identifiable by riveted on plate. Front subrame bolts to sills & firewall & it is stamped with the "chassis number". Both are likely to never be registerable again.
It all hinges on whether or not insurors are involved.
I am older than my mig welder "apprenticed" panel beater mate. I assure you, mig welders were not used in the construction of FC Holdens. Neither was sticky tape or bits of string! All the intricate pressings knitted together to form the structure of an FC Holden were spot welded one piece at a time & pieces were overlaid one over the other. Some structural areas were fill or fusion welded with oxy-acetylene because no spot prongs could reach those areas. What this all means is an apprentice in 1950s - 60s - 70s Aust was taught to effect satisfactory repairs on structural butt weld joints with OXY-ACETYLENE & not liquid snot mig welders as became the faster but rubbish common practice in the 1980s as witnessed by horrified myself.
To save this wonderful little car, a skilled tradesman trained in oxy welding is an absolute must. Socalled modern panel beaters refuse to swing an oxy because oxy is comparatively slow & expensive.
It's become mission impossible to repair these cars because knuckle dragging gronks have stuffed up so many repairs in the past & caused catastrophic structural breakages on impact in collisions resulting in countless needless grievous injuries & deaths as belted car burst open along snot welded repair joints.
This caused ammendments to laws governing repairs. What you do in private can be satisfactory if repairs are carried out properly. Such repairs should not even be visible or detectable. Cutting this wagon to properly repair it will require the expertise of a highly skilled tradesman trained on oxy welding. Without him, poor little wagon is sadly likely a goner unless a very hard to source replacement body materialises requiring an entirely new build process which will waste all of the effort invested in the current damaged body. That's a whole new paint job, full retrim & transfer of all machinery.... A massive waste.
I strongly advise repair. You are correct. However, finding a suitably skilled repairer & getting around gronk gov & vulture insurors will be challenging.
Wagon is adorable. A credit to her loving owner. Absolutely worthy of restoration.
@@johnbrooks9523 Hey John, I as first in the trade in 1968, we didn't have Mig or Tig welders we used torches ,even learnt to weld aluminum with 3 x torch. back then we fixed everything ,front clips ,rear clips , quarter panels ,roll overs side hits etc. I worked with guys that came up through the early 1960s and late 1950s, and learnt how to do leading. back then we had a pre -apprenticeship of 10 months which included repair welding and prep for paint and even painting . after this you went to work in a Autobody shop and started what was called Certificate of Qualification which lasted 4 years and you had to go to a government testing tech to go into the 3 years further to be a trades man ,red ticket. Mig welders came in over here in 1976, I remember the very day and they were very costly to buy back then , we had 6 tradesmen ,and 1 mig , so many still used the torch and you can get very good at using Oxy. I worked with a guide chart system that puller could tear apart anything LOLs and then we got the quadra clamp system ,and the Laser which was no hell in our shop, I remember making your own Dollies and tools for pulling ,I still have them and I am in my mid 70s. Last big job I did was a 5.0 liter Mustang hit hard you roof up and floor also put a complete front clip on it . Yes ,today it is all throw away and re&re parts.
I still know some of the younger guys that I had trained they now are older men getting ready to leave they fix frames on commercial trucks . We do call filler Bondo, or white Lightening , but most season guys call it Gipe or better mud, I worked with some real good Custom Car painters and pinstripers , My love for older cars is still very much alive and so many younger people are very interested over here in working on older cars I try to help out and encourage them even if it is a car we thought back in the day as an old mans car . Yes the government over here is closing down raceways and getting parts for older cars is getting harder speed shops mostly gone. JEGS or Rock Auto......I built a 1950 Austin Dorset into a street rod , A few years back . I have been watching you Aussies you seem to be keeping the Hot Rodding going strong over there , Good on you ..............Anyhow great talking to you brother......from the Great White North .... got to get rid of Trudie and his government he sure can spend and borrow money and tax us into the ground ............Peace out
Hope your ok , shame about the wagon !
I feel for you buddy I think I’d cry
So sad although I hope you are ok
so sad. hope your story is getting better.
So sad 😭🤧
what a shame
It can be fixed big job but fixable similar thing happened to my father in his modified capri was repairable to similar extent to this but in the e d he sold all parts and scrapped it and decided time for something different never had another but wish he had rebuilt really do
Any updates ?? hoping to see it back on the road or your creative mind at work .... ???
That was tough to watch
Oh well, that was one way of getting rid of a bog in the front of it. See where it all fell out.
everything can be fixed...
Have you repaired it yet
adrift but salvageable.
any updates mate ??
Soon
@@leonjulien4295
It's been TWO YEARS!
What has become of the prettiest FC Wagon in the world?!
Why did it crash into a guard rail on the freeway?
200 plus brake horsepower blown Red Motor bolted to difficult to control slushmatic auto trans set up in a system of no front sway bar, pram wheels & billy cart tyres on a rainy highway might have something to do with it?
It's a shame. Really cute FC with painstakingly time consuming traditional customisation & countless hours of quality restoration work crunched up into a nasty mess.
Have bought many pranged Early Holdens & seen countless wrecked cars.
With a healthy standard Grey Motor & original gearbox, you only have to lift your foot off the accelerator & the car will slow down immediately. Installing a dog of a Tri-Matic takes this control away.
I see a lot of cars travelling on highways at constant speeds with the brake lights lit lately because the gronk behind the wheel paddles both pedals at the same time like a silly child in a pedal car. Drive a supercharged automatic FC at highway speeds & in wet weather like that & you can accidentally skid the front tyres with your left foot on the brake while churning the back tyres with your right foot on the loud pedal. Most folks just don't get it. This is how they drive. This is why so many cars are sitting in wrecking yards smashed & nobody can figure out what went wrong.
It may not be the case in this instance, but the rubbish wheels & tyres & missing front sway bar look rather incriminating.
Wide quality low profile tyres & a front sway bar are way more important than customised bodywork & pretty paint.
@@johnbrooks9523 I was taught, even back in the 1960'sw that the left foot was for the clutch pedal. Nothing else, just the clutch. No clutch? Then tuck your leg back across the front of the seat. Have done that [unless car had a left foot, rest pad] all my driving life over the last fifty seven years.
Right foot, ... go/stop pedals.
Left foot, ... clutch pedal, for starting off & gear shifting.
@@KB10GL
Yes. This was required basic practice. Left foot should never ever meet brake pedal under any circumstances.
Things have since changed. Gov now herds the motorist for big profits & plainly doesn't care if motorist comes to grief through blatant ineptitude as incompetant driver. This is because gov taxes all emergency services, insurances, tow truck operators, repairers & replacement parts suppliers, hospitals & big pharma. The more the fools smash up their cars, the more money the gov rakes in & the fools wouldn't know the meaning of the word ineptitude if you stopped them & asked them.
Countless thousands of pranged cars have sat in rows in wrecking yards for decades. Folks die every day. It's big business & it's all taxable.
Anything is fixable these days it’s all about how much money your willing to spend
Customized 1957?
released in '58, continued until 1960, usually mistakenly referred to as '59 by numbskulls with no idea.
Looks repairable to me. Seen worse repaired
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What did it hit
So what happened
Watch the last video on his channel this must have fucked him up as he never put another video up. Semi hit him but watch the last ride.
Yeah nah.. you're dreaming, get a van