'Christian Nationalism' Sure Beats Progressive Globalism | Guest: Dr. Voddie Baucham | Ep 696
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Today we're joined by Dr. Voddie Baucham, dean of theology at African Christian University in Zambia, to discuss the current state of the country and the topics of public schools, race, diversity, and Christian nationalism. First, with the midterm election coming up in two weeks, we look at how Christians can come to terms with where we've found ourselves as a nation in the midst of drag queen story hours and corporate CRT policies. We talk about the depravity of public school curriculum and the popular philosophy of sending kids to public school as "missionaries." We break down how CRT and race politics are merely about power and how the Left only wants diversity if it's ethnic diversity. Then, we dive into how "Christian nationalism" has become a trigger phrase for the Left and what it actually means.
#politics #christianity #theology
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Timecodes:
00:00 | Intro & New stickers!
03:00 | Interview with Dr. Voddie Baucham begins
09:30 | Infiltrating schools with Leftism
14:59 | Sending kids to public school
21:31 | Critical Race Theory and race politics
26:50 | Equity v equality
37:06 | Diversity
42:53 | Encouragement to Christian parents
46:30 | "Christian Nationalism"
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Previous Episodes with Dr. Baucham:
Ep 282 | Exposing & Opposing Social Justice Theology | Guest: Dr. Voddie Baucham apple.co/3grw2G0
Ep 460 | How Social Justice Activism Is Infecting The Church | Guest: Dr. Voddie Baucham apple.co/3SvMnXE
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I love Voddie. Solid theology delivered in a mild "God is in control" manner. No panic from him.
Not sure why a person would even vote if "God is in control"
@@peterfox7663 Because God is in control of the ends as well as the means.
@@slash903 Then it doesn't matter if you vote or not, or who you vote for.
Your position shows that you really don’t understand the connection between God’s sovereignty and human responsibility 😢
@@slash903 How stupid.
SO incredibly stoked to see Voddie on your show! He's such a great man of God, so bold with much wisdom. My husband and I have truly enjoyed and appreciated his teachings. A friend gifted me his book 'Family Driven Faith' for my birthday and I'm excited to start reading it.
He has been on here a few times. Would recommend to check out the others :)
@@GinaA Well I'm late 😅 thank you! Going to look them up
It is an amazing book! I just finished it and it's fire! 🔥
I would encourage you to find a better teacher, there are many things he is wrong about from a theological perspective. I don't trust him but do your own study.
His Eschatology is completely backward and his view on Israel goes against Leviticus, 2 Chronicles, and many of Paul's letters.
He changes the meanings of definitions of words to fit his ideology. We talk about leftists redefining words well to me Dr. Bauchman is the Christian version of that.
What's sad for me to see is how unprepared American Christians are for 2023.
The Church is distracted by elections and "wokeness" and all these other cultural issues.
If there is an election then vote but it shouldn't take up more than half an hour of brain space. If you have kids in school and there's a drag story time or whatever then deal with it at the moment. But what boggles my mind is how much of a bubble Christians live in, in America how can Christians not see America is dead. It is collapsing, it will collapse and God won't stop it because He started it.
Tens of millions of Christians endorsed a leader in 2020 that proposed a satanic Middle East plan and now America is under judgment.
God removed Trump and replaced him with Biden. If that doesn't scream God's judgment on America I don't know what will.
Daniel 2:20-21
20 Daniel answered and said: “Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, For wisdom and might are His.
21 And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings; He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to those who have understanding."
America has far greater issues than transgender bathrooms and dragqueen storytime.
The nation is bankrupt, its currency will fail and the President is trying very hard to take the nation to war, wars it will lose.
The nation has 22 days of diesel fuel left before the supply runs out, how do you think that'll affect winter and food supplies?
pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ryanledendecker/2022/10/21/bidens-diesel-fuel-supply-crisis-could-soon-cripple-america-in-ways-never-before-seen-n1638814
Let's take a few economic and geopolitical issues from the last 100 years and see how right now in 2022 we are seeing ALL of them come together to collapse America.
1930s Great Depression.
1940's WW2
1960 Cold war/Cuban missile Crisis with Russia
1970s-80's Massive inflation
1987 stock market 1-day collapse of 20% (still yet to come)
1995's bond market collapse
2000 Tech bubble
2008 Great recession.
2015 Europe debt sovereign crisis
2023 ALL of them at once. Here's the proof
ua-cam.com/video/gvL6pBs5spg/v-deo.html
The threat of war with China. Chin vows to "re-unify" with Taiwan.
justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/chinese-leader-vows-reunify-taiwan-force-if-necessary
Biden commits the US to militarily aid Taiwan against China
ua-cam.com/video/ptkR1WoRFTE/v-deo.html
We're seeing inflation as we did in 1980
Bond Market collapse
www.foxbusiness.com/markets/bond-market-crash-foreshadows-new-lows-us-stock-market-bofa-warns
Nasdaq is down 30% year to date
The housing market is crashing
nypost.com/2022/10/18/us-housing-market-in-free-fall-as-builder-confidence-suffers-disastrous-drop-economist/
Europe/UK debt crisis is astounding and very troublesome.
Do we live in fear? No. But we shouldn't live in ignorance either. It just bothers me how Christians debate whose doctrines are correct and yet completely ignore reality.
As a Christan, I show people biblically what is coming and why (if I know) I show how the Bible has given us the script. Now many argue with me about how my views are false teachings or whatever, but they're not wrong.
2023 is going to be the end of America. So if your hope is in a nation or in the god of America then your hope is misplaced. The God of the Bible is the God of Israel not the god of America and sadly Americans are going to learn that the hard way.
I wish I had better news but America is rotten to the core because no matter who you elect the government is a slave to other parties like the FED and the WEF, the UN, etc.
As the Bible says the borrower is a slave to the lender and America is in debt big time.
@@mbfrommb3699 I see your reply must've taken a lot of time so clearly it's something you're passionate about so thank you for spending time on that. Somehow you seemed to take my comment of praise on Dr. Baucham to mean that I'm ignorant to all those things you spoke of. I assure you I am not. So with respect I will not "find another teacher", as you suggested. There are few people that I look to for teaching that we agree on everything and that is certainly okay. We have the Holy Spirit for discernment and we are to test all spirits and ideology against the word of God. You may have a problem with his ideology, but there is nothing with his theology. Thank you for your seemingly genuine concern and links.
Dr. Voddie Baucham’s very calm demeanor is so admirable and inspiring❤
He’s the best!!
He is as humble and sweet in person too! He's one of the most humble human beings I've had the privilege to meet.
@@louisanelson7948 you are having good news this weekend I love so 😊😊🎃🎃🎃😊😊😊😊😊😊🎃😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
@@louisanelson7948 🎃🎃🎃
He's incredible!!🙌🏽🙏🏾🇿🇦
Allie Beth is always such a class act, who knows how to dress with elegance and simplicity. She is a great example to young ladies in a world saturated with degradation of the self.
When she's not wearing ripped tight jeans...but be patient, she's a born heroine for truth ntl.
Yeah, where is the head covering?
@@christianmama2441 if you apply to head coverings, it’s relevant to meetings of the church, not work and ministry
@@ok7091 I think full time head covering is the practice of the church for the past 2000 years. It is a symbol of authority on a woman's head regardless if she is at church or not.
@@christianmama2441 I agree with head coverings in worship, but that seems to be the only application of 1 Corinthians 11. Paul is particularly concerned with their worship gatherings and prayers (this is supported by his appeal to wearing them "because of the angels." )I am not aware of any Christian tradition that has interpreted this as being a 24/7 covering (except some Anabaptists). If anything that would take away from the significance of its usage in worship.
@alliebethstuckey This is why my husband and I are in the process of starting a classical Christian school in our area! We are former public educators and attended public schools as children, but we believe classical Christian education is what we want for our own children...so we're creating the option!
Good for you!!!! After I retired from a huge, prestigious bilingual school, I got my dream of working at a Christian academy. We used the Abeka books and I was able to teach history from a Christian worldview. A few years later I worked at a private school owned by a conservative Christian and learned so much there, too. I think the son of a friend who helped build a recent Mars rover attended and maybe graduated from that school in San Salvador.
Excellent!
Classical Christian education is what we are doing but homeschool. I love the approach ❤️
Wow! That means you're on front lines. Praise God.
Voddie!!!!!! Thank God for his brave voice ✝️🤩✝️
I was indoctrinated against my father’s conservative views in the early 60s in an otherwise great public school in Little Rock, Arkansas. What breaks my heart is that I know now my dad was right but I lost him in 1963. He had a heart attack and went to be with the Lord within a week. His devotion to my mom and me, his sacrifice and abnegation are still my source of financial stability in a crazy world. My mom was, as I now know, the most noble of women, but I can only try to live to show them that my values are now, though not then, very similar to theirs.
Teaching factual reality isn't "indoctrination" lmfao
@@thenonartist4366 😯
So much respect for Dr. Baucham
This is a great conversation! I appreciate Voddie Bauchum!
I enjoy listening to Voddie Baucham’s sermons, and feel I have learned so much when he goes through scripture. My kids enjoy listening to his sermons as well.
Yes! One of my favorite preachers!
Praise God for Voddie! He looks great! I helped pray that man through his medical crisis...so good to see him back doing God's work!
Thank you for touching on this topic! I love Voddie’s point about how when the left manipulates scripture to fit their agenda no one calls that Christian Nationalism. Such a good episode!
Hmm it's almost like anyone can use a storybook written by goat herders to justify any belief they have
I could listen to Mr Bachman talk all day long. Such a calming voice. I absolutely was blessed by his book Fault lines 🙌🏻 all his books are wonderful.
Baucham
I just met Voddie at the Semper Reformanda Conference in Houston. I am so grateful for his faithfulness to God’s Word.
Hey! I was there too. I saw they posted the videos online under Grace Family Baptist Church.
My absolute favorite preacher! I have been listening to his sermons every morning and they have fed my soul like nothing else!
I LOVE VODDIE!!! I shrieked with joy as soon as I saw this notification because I know it's gonna be GOOD!!!
Me too! 😆
One of my favorite pastors
I love listening to Voddie Baucham. He is a man of wisdom and integrity. Thanks for having him on your show again, Allie!
Blessed by Voddie & Allie Beth I pray everyone can "hear" this and understand especially here in America instead of tuning out...🙏💓
Voddie Baucham is awesome. I love to hear him speak on these topics.
Voddie Bauchum!!! What a sweet sweet brother in Christ! So happy to see him on your show Allie 🥰
I'm sorry I missed this LIVE. What a blessing that you were able to host Dr VB in-person. Thank you Allie for sharing with us. His book is AMAZING. Everyone should read it and SHARE it. SHARE Faultlines. Share FAULTLINES.
Love vauddie! Got so excited to see him there with you. Thank you for having him on the podcast! GBY!
I love Dr. Bauchum!! I hope some day I get to meet him!!! He’s absolutely fantastic, I love his theology and the fact that he’s so Christ centered and loving while still being strong and not afraid to offend people with the gospel!!! The gospel is offensive and counter cultural and that’s a good thing!!! If it never offended, how would we be convicted to follow Christ to begin with!? Love it so much!!
Thank you for having Voddie on your show. I'm wondering if you could do a show on how parents and families can support their children in the public school. There are many Christian teachers in the public school and there are many, many ways families can support us. We are not a lost cause, but parents need to be involved and vocal. Start with prayer and if your child is in the public school, you are still their first and most influential teacher. It is easy to be critical, but we must fight for our children. “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves” (Matthew 10:16)
Unfortunately, Christian teachers are essentially powerless and Christian parents are being actively opposed by the school system. Public school is no longer a place for Christian families.
I'm a public school teacher and I'm not ready to give up the fight yet! I am the gatekeeper for my classroom - as I am for my home as well. I'm sad to see so many just give up on us.
@@staceyk123 It's not giving up so much as it is acknowledging fully what the public school model is designed to do. It takes children away from their parents for a majority of their waking hours and trains them in secular humanism. Until this country returns to being a Christian nation, public schools are the antithesis of Christian parenting.
@@staceyk123 Thank you Stacey! Keep doing what you’re doing for our children. We need more teachers like you!
There are some general, historical overviews that we need. AMEN, brilliant leadership here!
Support this brother bigly.
Love Voddie so much! Was so pumped to hear this episode. Did not disappoint! He changed my mind and changed our life.
Love Voddie. Thank you for having him on - he is one of few voices I respect and listen to to make informed decisions.
May God continue to bless, strengthen, and keep both the Baucham and Stuckey family.
Voddie is doing great Kingdom work! Thank you for having him on, the message he has needs to be heard!
I really loved this interview. He speaks so clearly and calmly yet you can hear his passion about the issues. Thanks for this interview!
Thank you Allie for having Voddie on! Always appreciate your heart for God!
He’s got such a great voice!
This was a GREAT interview!! Thank you so much. I love it and will probably watch it again. And again. ✝️💕🙏🇺🇲
My favourite podcast hosting my favourite preacher. Voddie knows Paulo Freire, he’s so knowledgeable.
He’s the real deal Dr. Voddie Baucham!!
I am so grateful for Voddie! The Christian community needs more Godly men to lead and teach the whole Truth to Believers! God bless you both!
If you like Baucham´s talking about these issues you should hear him PREACH! He´s a TRUE preacher exposes the Word excellently and for the Glory of God!
I just wanted to let you know that I am blessed by both of you 🙏thank you Voddie and Allie
Thank you so much for having Voddie as a guest on your show!
Good to see you hale and hearty, Dr Baucham! I was praying for your surgery and recovery.
Two of my favorites!! So excited for this episode! 😁
Nothing is more inclusive then hell. It's accepts everyone outside of Christ
Having Pastor VB on your show just confirms my initial thoughts on who you are and where you are in your discernment of doctrine.. Basically what I’m saying is your Good with Me Ally… we don’t bend to culture or compromise sound doctrine. Pastor VB is my pastor on UA-cam. God bless you all and keep fighting the Good Fight… Jesus Christ is King 🦁
You should interview Charo or Paul Washer. 👍
Soli deo Gloria
Also John McCarther.
So good! So clear! So informative! So truthful!
I love Voddie baucham, the man is a warrior for Christ, great teacher for the kingdom.
I always enjoy hearing Voddie Baucham speak
Thank you Ali for bringing on VD
What a blessing he has been to my life and my son's life my young adult son's life even though hes waiting and going off the train God is still able just like he was able for me
Wow what a great conversation on Christian Nationalism! My fellow Filipinos must watch this specially the leaders from the 2 major hip mega churches in my country who supported the female Leftist Liberal presidential candidate in our last National election. But thank God she didn't win. Yet still many of the evangelicals in my nation are liberal leaning so contents such as this are very useful in educating them.
We foster children and in NY state we can't homeschool.
I pray every morning over each one protection.
Love Voddie and John MacArthur, 2 favorite God Bless
Love how God uses you Allie and Dr. Baucham. You each have had an impact on our family and I am so so grateful.
Voddie....such a godsend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! 2 of my favorite people!
Exactly lowering standards won’t help anyone.
Someone needs to press TGC as to why they’ve never acknowledged or reviewed Voddies book “Faultlines” that called them out.
Such a great conversation. Thank you.
I really enjoy Voddie every time he comes in the podcast!
I wish I had homeschooled my kids from the start, but I didn't, which makes taking teens out that much harder. I homeschooled in the 20-21 school year because of the craziness in NY. my kids and I are actually traumatized so much that we all break out in a sweat when anyone mentions homeschooling. it was an awful year, and my kids ended up being behind because I had absolutely no idea what I was doing, and in that time, there was no one who would help me. it was expensive(I spent a good couple thousand dollars on curriculum, much of which we didn't use), and I felt defeated at the end of the year. we knew we wanted better for our kids than NY, so we moved to TN. I still wish I had started homeschooling from the start, but my kids' public school here is awesome, conservative, and allows the parents to make decisions about things. my kids are great kids whose faith is strong so far, and we have them immersed in the word and extremely involved in our theologically sound church. if I could afford $30k per year(I have 3 kids), I would send them to Christian school, but I don't, so here we are.
Your comment is very encouraging to me, as we are considering placing our son BACK in the public school system for next school year. I appreciate and admire Voddie Baucham, but I don't believe we should broadbrush all public school systems. In addition, if children are being consistently discipled at home and in a Gospel-preaching church, that is key. Again, it should not be assumed that public school is wrong for all Christian families.
Homeschooling does not cost that. I'm so sorry you didn't have support and were thrown into it that way. My kids are in umbrella schools (2 kids) for $1099 a year. I spend around $1500 a year for my kids but I use our tax return. There need to be tax breaks for homeschool parents (who are teachers). I am from TN and I know from experience and the friends I have that weren't homeschooled that it's in the schools there. If you ever choose to homeschool again, take some time to research! I know in 2020 no one had time, but it definitely shouldn't cost that. Simple is better ❤️
And I always hear folks say all aren't the same, it is. Public schools have one agenda. We cannot allow the world to teach and raise our precious children God has given us. I personally cannot imagine sending my babies to someone to teach all day.
Thank you Jesus for this beautiful Holy Spirit filled conversation.
Two of my favorite people ❤
How did I miss Vodddie on your channel?!!!! Man of God. Listen and hear.
Wow just wow. ❤🙏🏽
Allie how exciting to see Voddie on your show. His book is wonderful. Thank you! My only question would be, what options do parents with special needs children have since most private religious /Christian schools don't have the services that public schools offer. Any thoughts?
Try Montessori education! They have some great methods of teaching that benefit both regular and kids living with special needs.
I second Montessori. My area even has a Montessori school at a church where they teach Bible as well. I wanted to have my son with DS there, but they were full. He has been thriving at another local Montessori school and they are working with us to meet his needs.
We homeschool and do private therapies. I know that's not an option for everyone, but do it if you can
@@2595chris Yes! A couple in our church lead Christian Montessori Fellowship. They now live in San Salvador and are allowed to train teachers here but are from San Antonio and have on-line courses. They are not cheap but they mainly want to spread the method as evangelization. One of the young ladies in our church is Russian and still has a grandmother in Russia. I think her parents live in Lithuania and she is married to a young local man so she also speaks Spanish. She is training with them but most of their students are already certified to teach in El Salvador. I volunteered and translated parent letters into Spanish so I can promise there is not a denominational curriculum, even though my friends are devout Christians, but the values taught are part of a Christian worldview of integrity and service before self. I’ll bet they would love to work with Dr. Baucham in teacher training.
I love to watch people with such composure 😍
Dr. Baucham is so amazingly wise and Allie, you are such a model for other young Christian women.
Now this is a wonderful interview
Voddie is my favorite! 💗
I appreciate the insight you brought to this Allie. My first time hearing about this channel, definitely earned a sub.
Dr. Voddie Baucham thank you
Just heard of Voddie & love how grounded in scripture his preachings are
Soooo good!!
Love Dr Baucham.
So happy you talked about OCC! Praise God! My favorite ministry!! Children accepting Jesus every 4 seconds !!
So thankful for Dr. Baucham and for Mrs. Allie for this.
Read Voddie Bacham's book, Faultlines, it's very helpful. I actually found it in our public library in town, surprisingly.
This was so good and informative! 😊
“They want people who are ethnically diverse, but they don’t want people who are ideologically diverse.” -Voddie
BOOM. Mic drop.
Great conversation with Dr. Voodie about the school system. Plus, I am Reformed/Calvinist myself.🙂
This was a great podcast. I know many people that decided to homeschool and their kids followed the world rather than christianity. This is really a grief and so I think the knowledge that Satan is a roaring lion definitely has to be in parents hearts and minds and prayer needs to be big on the agenda whenever you raise kids. I homeschooled my kids up to 8th grade and never regretted it but I'm not positive that I would make people feel like they have to homeschool. It's a very difficult thing to wrestle with and a decision every family has to meet before God.
Christian education can take many forms, homeschooling is one great one, but just one.
Luckily Satan doesn't exist lmao
@@thenonartist4366 And he might be lhao at that comment.
I loved this conversation! I homeschool, but my bonus kids go to govt school. It's so true that our eyes were open during the shut downs. My then 5th grade bonus kid turned in a project that had scribbles and sentence fragments (I thought it was a rough draft) and got an A! I spoke to the teacher and she laughed and said that none of her students can write in complete sentences! What the actual?!? My then 3rd grade bonus kiddo couldn't form letters. I wish I was joking.
What is a bonus kid?
@@Julia29853 That's what I call my step-kids 🙂. We are a blended family. I have four and my husband has 3.
Dr. Baucham is one of my favorite people to listen to. I'm so thankful that God made him and gave him to us. What a blessing!
The sticker should say "Roe wasn't even aborted"
The baby was adopted grew up and refused to be reconciled to her mother.
Wow voddie on the show!!! Love you both
I love Dr. Baucham.
I love him so much and you young lady are pretty awesome to
I haven't actually listened to this interview yet.. I may catch it later; because it's very late here. But I just wanted to make a brief comment based on the title. I have a friend who is very liberal in her media choices, who is all worked up against the general concept of "Christian Nationalism", because it's so religious!?!? (Of course I think this expression certainly means different things to different people, as well.) But I made a brief comment to her that "what we have now" is "Secular Humanistic Nationalism"!!! And many people are tired of having "Secular Humanism" crammed down their proverbial, national throats, for way too long!! "Secular Humanism itself, has also, definitely been defined as a religion"!!!, (even if supposedly, for Establishment Clause purposes???) "So either way your getting a religious set of beliefs dominating the values and laws of the land!!" So just pick your preference.. and quit hyperventilating over whether it sounds like it's religious or not!! Just face the facts that it's all religious in some way!!... (And by the way; I don't know any sane or freedom loving person who wants to establish actual Federal and/or State run churches in America; because that is what the original settlers of this country came here to escape!!! Yet it's true that many of the beneficial laws of America were definitely based on Biblical "values"; like, it's illegal to steal, murder, lie in court etc, etc.,..And such valuable laws have benefited our society greatly!!! It's just an irrefutable fact...)
I had a public school education from 1992-2006. I've had to unlearn 13 years of deceit. 10 years later, I started with my firstborn and chose not to allow anyone to deceive him in the first place. And, BY MY BEARD, I'm glad I spared him and all his siblings from that. If you think you can't do it, let me steal from Obama: YES YOU CAN!
My mom homeschooled my brother and I and didn't even graduate from highschool. I went to public school up to 5th grade and then homeschooled. In college I had the tools to think critically and was blown away how many people changed and fell for all the woke stuff even happening back in 2008. I graduated college with honors ❤️ I'm not even using my history degree but to homeschool my own kids lol
@@Gossie88 I really don't understand all the people who accept the narrative unquestioningly. Even with obvious holes in it!
I love Voddie!!🙏🤗🤍
I just love both of you❤ great duo
Great episode. The democrat machine was in the college news rooms recruiting college students for internships. This happened to me at 20 years old and I did an internship with the Democratic Party of Illinois for a summer. I had no clue, they were trying to condition me at the time. Now I can see it so clearly.
Well, Voddie is a pleasant surprise!!
God bless you a Allie and Voddie
I bought Voddie’s book! Look forward to reading it!
Thank you ❤
Man! Can’t believe how based this show is!
Allie, it's unfortunate you didn't bring up medical freedom. We must start talking about this. Please get in touch with Megan Basham and William Wolfe on this and let's start asking leaders like Baucham and others to join the discussion. So thankful for Dr. Baucham.
this violinist appreciated Dr. Baucham's example of violin-making in Austria... a nice touch. 🎻😊
Excellent interview!
VODDIE!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏🥳🥳🥳🤗