CORRUPT since inception? - J. Edgar Hoover - Forgotten History
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- The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been considered the world’s premier law enforcement agency for a century since its founding. It had grown into many different areas since its inception. The first director of the FBI was also its longest serving spanning almost five decades under eight presidents and he was instrumental in creating an effective all encompassing yet sometimes controversial organization. Written and Hosted by Colin D. Heaton. Forgotten History is a 10th Legion Pictures Production.
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"Secret Life of J Edgar Hoover" by Richard Hack, 800 pages of treason
was the cross dressing in there?
@W&R > yes, and his 14 year old Puerto Rico boy toys > I'm researching his bust of OSS during WW2, comment pending
Thanks for the heads-up about the book; just ordered it.
@8nor > added note on JEH bust of OSS in 1942, see comments
The people in power now make him look like a boy scout, I'd take that world over this one any day, no matter what creepy stuff people where doing then, it's a thousand times worse now and the media and taking heads aren't even convincing liars anymore.
It's very telling that the FBI headquarters is still named after that criminal.
FBI is a criminal organization by itself.
“Hypocritical criminal” I would add!!!
Ikr
Well sometimes it is unwise to obscure history in order to keep a memory alive as a cautionary tale. Of course in this instance, it seems more like a badge of honor.
I’m black and I always thought that.
Robert Kennedy refered to Hoover as J Edna Hoover......
---- FAITHFUL, TRUE, and CORRECT, BUT BOBBY and EDNA . . . proved to be equally worthless and weak as public servants.
Bobby and his brother had Marylin Monroe murdered and we're with her at Lawford's beach house the night of the "OD"
@@hendo337 --- YES, INDEED! SINCERE SEX IS THE BANE OF THE PETIT BOURGEOIS MAN . . . a back-door man true to never being himself; the dead Kennedys were just boring suburbanites, like Hugh Hefner.
Gay Edgar Hoover is more fitting
Lol.
I love when politicians always preface their criticism with "we respect the hard working men and women in the field"..... the entire department is corrupt and always has been. That includes the field agents carrying out the treasonous orders.
Amen! It’s the hardworking field agents who arrest pro-life grandmothers and infiltrate churches.
Seems the FBI never stopped their illegal ways, the organization needs to be disbanded and reconstructed in accordance with the Constitution and tight oversight by Congress.
It doesn't matter how many times or in which ways you touch the fire, it will always burn you.
Under the Biden administration, they’re turning into the KGB!
The FBI is doing what it was organized to do in 1908--anti-subversion, anti-terrorism, counterespionage, fighting political enemies. It took almost two decades to pick up a law enforcement mission--prior to that, it was "investigative" work only, a spy organization.
www.fbi.gov/history/brief-history
The major problem with the FBI is that it is both a spy organization and a law enforcement agency.
And the CIA.
JFK said the very same thing .
"never one to let the Constitution and federal law get in the way"
This sentiment applies to 99% of those in Washington today.
Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely.
FBI it's like KGB, but for America.
Federal Bureau of Insurrectionists
Worse, in Russia, they decided on that brand of leadership. Not even close here in America. There in lies the difference.
The US Congress and Senate are more corrupt, they make the FBI look like grammar school children. Do not be so ignorant, America is NOT a country, it is a Continent.
NOT for AMERICA though, gor the interrests of the WAR MONGERS and alike...
America's Gestapo.
Or Stasi, they were worst then Gestapo.
So is the CIA
@@joaopedrobaggio4475Don't forget about the KGB
@@goldenvulture6818 I just have question for you Americans, will you take some action against this or will you allow the government to take away everything from you?
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 Fedpost elsewhither.
Name a federal agency that is not corrupted. I cannot think of one.
Esp since Obama weaponized them against all Americans who love freedom
Name a Republican that is not paranoid ?
One that his not wrought with fear
That has not been radicalised
PS: Radical people naturally find other people that do not agree with as RADICALS
Test : Where has the American center disappeared to ? The upstanding civil servant, the principled wiseman
Mueller ? Fauci ? Dolly Parton ? Tom Hanks ?
I rest my case
What is amazing is that every president was too much of a coward to fire, charge, and try Hoover.
Maybe those Presidents liked the way Hoover dealt with their enemies.
@@rickn8or
Or…. Hoover had the dirt on those presidents…..
To extorted.
@@tomyoung8563 they were all corrupted
yes i did mean ....ed.
It’s so refreshing to find a history channel that doesn’t obscure and protect the corrupted individuals. Love your work!
Thank you kindly
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Thank you for your work. People in my family died because FDR was as much a Jew-hater as Hitler. Americans also starved because of FDR. I am sure you know about the Supreme Court case. Osker Filburn. The farmer FDR punished for not plowing his crops under as children were eating out of garbage cans in the big cities. The Supreme Court ruling was Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942). Filburn was the farmer. Wickard was FDR's Secretary of the Department of Agriculture. FDR had his own concentration camps. He put known racists on the Supreme Court that he threatened to destroy. We have another Socialist Democrat president now threatening to play FDR's game. Another racist Jew-hater. He said allowing blacks in white schools would turn them into racial jungles. Any liberal news people putting that video on TV now? No. Fake news.
These old sayings keep coming to mind; "A fish rots from the head down ....." and "The more things change, the more they stay the same."
Indeed they do my friend
I learned it as;
"A snake dies from the head down"
"The Individual Is Handicapped When Confronted By A Conspiracy So Monstrous He Cannot Believe It Exists" - J Edgar Hoover
Oddly, he was actually correct in that statement. Read the full quote. Perhaps he used the threat communism presented (presents) as a screen for the conspiracy he was a part of.
The fox guarding the hen house or would that be the bathhouse
Ouch
He had a big hand in the cover up of the JFK assassination along with the Warren commission.
LBJ was also involved.
@@alwaysfreedom9354 CIA and the FBI and some Generals,Texan Oil Barons and LBJ,and the Mafia, because Mafia was an asset of the CIA, listen to E.Howard Hunt's death bed confession recording too.
Recall he wanted to prosecute Chambers for revealing Soviet espionage, instead of Hiss for actual espionage.
Interesting how coin tel pro was later replaced by the patriot act by the son of a former cia director
Shhhh. You're not allowed to tell the truth.
Absolutely phenomenal work, Colin!!!!
J.Edgar Hoover, Biggest Crime boss and the guy who started the FBI AKA the biggest GANG in the modern world!!
J.Edgar Hoover seem like the type of guy to me that in front of people he would make fun and even perhaps arrest and perhaps do other things that were unnecessary and perhaps much worse than just arresting someone that was homosexual in nature this is a course in front of others but behind closed doors he was the first one to engage in these acts.
This is my personal opinion of course.
Still yet Colin, I must say my friend, this is wonderful work again and again and again....Thanks.
Thank you kindly
He’d be mighty proud of his baby today.
Wow! I'm just floored at the corruption from the past. I look forward to some accountability and tribunals for current events! "We The People" should be pissed! Thank you for you awesome research!
I am Brazilian, and our federal police is also very corrupt.
Still here and much worse now
@@ChrisAthanas i am from Brazil man, and we also lost our faith in the our federal police.
It's 1000x worse now
@joaopedrobaggio4475 I've been in the state of Rio for 8 months, I can confirm that your system is very broken and I think these people all deserve something much better. The USA sucks but, it's still a little better in many places than Brazil.
Keep up the good work colin.. We love some based knowledge bright and early.
Thanks, will do!
Hoover proved to everyone what the FBI was going to be.
My great uncle was an arms instructor for the FBI and worked with Hoover. There was a drawing of Hoover in his office signed to my great uncle from Hoover. He never had one good thing to say about him and often used a lot of curse words when talking about Hoover to say the least.
Thank you for this talk.
J Edgar Hoover was a name in history now I know that he is infamous. No one should be allowed such power. It is also a case of a bureaucratic leader usurping the power of the people's choice of leaders and legislators. We still have that problem.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is why we now have term limits on the office of President. This is also why we need term limits in the Congress as well as other offices in the bureaucracy.
@ROYNEPTUNE We did not start out with term limits for presidents. It was the wisdom of our first president that kept the tradition until two others tried to for a third term. As we all know, the opportunity of the Second World War allowed Roosevelt to be elected to four terms. I believe people were smart to see the danger of it. I think an inherent danger is the bureaucracy. They don't allow them to be fired and that is something that never should have happened.
@@teresajcosgrove I can’t agree with you more. Very well said.
@ROYNEPTUNE How about term limits for the bureaucracy. At least the heads and their office will be replaced of the IRS FBI CIA EPA etc etc, when the administration is changed. Also, the states need to come together to limit the Federal Departments and work to remove the debt if we want the USA to make it.
@@pearlluber5849 yes, I believe the growth of our debt and the bureaucracy go hand in hand. The debt and bureaucracies seem to be our greatest enemies.
J Edgar Hoover respected the US Constitution about as much as our current politicians of 2024 and that means both sides
FBI now stands for Frame Berate Intimidate
This is scary. Not all too surprising, it really scary. It seems the current FBI director is just “carrying on, an old, family tradition”. With apologies to Hank Williams Jr.
HA!
Good one
Great video. You never disappoint. Thanks again.
Thanks again!
The entire system is 💩 just attracting flies!
I see nothing has changed with government overreach.
Hoover was a freemason, that pretty much explains it all now...
Excellent work as always gentleman...👍👍
I was also thinking that.
Judge Andrew Napolitano "they are not boy scouts" referring to the FBI.
So...this guy went from a low level apparatchik to head of the Alien Enemy Bureau before becoming a Scottish Rite Mason ? Interesting....
It seems the FBI has been rotten pretty much from its inception. The sooner it is dismantled, the sooner we may have a ( very slim) chance of regaining our REPUBLIC.
As the saying goes "When the law breaks the law then there is no law"
I think there should be a discussion about what a dismantling of this or a similar agency would look like. How it would be done. I know there are some good honest people in the agency, but I think there’s a corruptible core that needs to be taken to task and exposed. And forever monitored to ensure the corruption doesn’t return.
It doesn't matter how many times or in which way you you touch the fire, it will always burn you.
I was only following orders ?
I was only following orders ?
Thank you for shining light on shadowy subjects and history.
Why is it, the EVERY time Woodrow Wilson's name comes up, it's ALWAYS scandal ?? Woodrow Wilson was one of the biggest slime balls of all time. After all, we do him to thank for the Fed, the IRS, the KKK, and so many more disgusting things.
Sir, this one was SO good I struggle to not cuss out of sheer enthusiasm.
Fantastic job, fellas
Glad you enjoyed it!
Corrupt from day one.
The swamp was and is still a mess.
💯America First ❤️✝️🇺🇸🫡
Hoover is no different from Himmler, Heydrich, Beria and whoever was in charge of the Kenpeitai.
No, don't get me wrong he was corrupt and bad, but he didn't off people like those others did.
@@remy12Are you sure about that? Just look at the corrupt things that they do. THAT is the reason why I’m asking YOU that question!
@@remy12Really? I’d say arming and funding far right deaths squads and conducting over 184 regime change operations puts him up there with Himmler and Stalin
Best history channel on UA-cam. Thank you Colin.
Wow, thanks
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL...It's True!
Read the book "The History of the FBI" by Tim Weiner...Hoover was insane.
Once had an FBI agent that grew up in Chicago, in Capone’s neighborhood, tell us that kids there grew up to be priest, cops or gangsters; and there wasn’t much difference in those career paths.
You should check into doing a story about the John Birch Society.
Good suggestion, know a lot about BIrch
That is a good idea.... How about Yuri Bezmenov?
Excellent as always !
Thank you! Cheers!
The FBI investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing.
Seems legit... 😂
Guess Hoover was the freak off pioneer
The eyes wide open yt channel did a great job covering this last year and the same info. This is a good one too
Thanks Colin
The guy with the biggest ego and the highest inferiority complex
Thank you, Colin! You are the history professor our country needs.
Yes. My World War Two vet teachers are gone. Young Americans are no longer educated. Just indoctrinated. Brainwashed.
This should be in the "most corrupt" section.
Time to Clean house again. Great vid., thank you.
You bet!
That comparison to Haydeich was great. You never disappoint me, and i get a little twinge of pride knowing my little contribution helps you educate people that don't know what REALLY happened. ❤
Here here.
HE WAS A JESUIT ALTER-BOY SHIRT-LIFTER , TOO !!!!!!!!😂😂🎉❤
Great documentary on Hoover Collin . I was born in the mid 50's and was told by my naive parents and grandparents how great a crime fighter J Edgar Hoover was . Growing up watching the Untouchables TV series and later the series the FBI , I was convinced of his " could do no wrong" , hero status . As a young adult , I read his book , Masters of Deceit , which a family friend , who was an FBI agent , told me was not written by Hoover , but was ghost written by someone else . Allegations of cross dressing and homosexuality were put forth against Hoover , which his apologists dismissed as slander by his detractors . I believed these explanations , and just couldn't believe that a man with such sterling character was guilty of such things . As time went by the claims against Hoover continued to persist , and when backed up by solid evidence , I came to see.JEH for what he really was , a proud egotistical power hungry manipulator who used and abused the law for his own purposes , even to the extent of being involved with LBJ in the planning and coverup of the JFK assassination . He was also responsible for not following up on reports from his agents from South America of live sightings of Adolph Hitler in the Baraloche region of the Argentine Patagonia and elsewhere . I have come to understand the saying that ; " the phenomenon may be a conspiracy, but when you have facts and data it's not a theory " . Noah was a " conspiracy theorist ", until it started raining ! 😎👍 Also ; " questions that are not adequately answered don't go away " .
I have a second edition hardcover of MASTERS OF DECIEPT !
AN APPROPRIATE TITLE !
Always wonder about J. Edgar Hoover. This will be great!
Sharing is caring 😊
Yes it is!
As I may have mentioned before, I really do appreciate all the work you do to produce your fact based videos.
Professor Plum : But is the FBI in the habit of cleaning up after a multiple murder? Wadsworth : Yes. Why do you think it's run by a man called Hoover?
Normal people rarely allow themselves to believe that anything can be done about the tremendous evil in the world, to the point that it’s considered naive/immature to ponder it. It is extremely discouraging. Once pacifism was piled on, pretty much all hope was lost.
I couldn’t watch this one fast enough. It’s no wonder the FBI is acting the way it does knowing how it started.
And low and behold, now it isn't only Presidents that are scared of the FBI.
Love your videos brother keep exposing the truth as much as you can and we will share it far and wide... your channel is a breath of fresh air in this world... much love to you and everyone who puts these videos together
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Love you guys man I share your videos with everyone I know...I dont know If they even watch them but its all worth sharing... you are a light In a dying society and everyone needs to keep up with forgotten history because it will keep us from repeating the same terrible mistakes...we need to know the truth of history and you guys do a fantastic job... much love seriously ❤️
Thank for shedding light on the totally corrupt man..love the videos!
Great episode. Thankyou.
Thank you for this brilliant episode of Forgotten History, which I requested you to do.
Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!
The FBI seems to be following in Hoover. Footsteps just fine.
So many secrets...
The higher up people in the FBI, as well as CIA, and other 3 and 4 letter agencies, all seem to have something in common. Type in “Sound Investigations CIA agent” and then type in “James OKeefe Secretary of Defense Personnel,” and you’ll see they all have something in common with Jay.
Great as always. Thanks!
People like G. Gordon Liddy admired the technics he learned from the leadership of the bureau. Watergate was an occurrence to be expected.
Thank You for these informative episodes Colin. History that should not be Forgotten. Best Wishes to You and Your Family.
Whit all due respect greetings from San Diego CA, sincerely Jose Silva thanks.
Thank you so much for this video Colin. We appreciate you for giving us the facts. ❤️🙏
Always!
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL ❤️
Fantastic video- very well done. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Always good stuff from you
Thank you again
Outstanding video of yours 🙏
Thanks Colin for covering your subjects with no sugar coating or political correctness. I consider your pieces as hope for a return to common sense reality. Or at least one last source of substance before I go to greet my Maker. Amazing how arrogant people are today, not thinking of the long standing tradition of government overreach.
I find myself liking Truman whenever he is brought up in topics like this. I would be interested if you covered him whether it be a Most corrupt or a more positive video. Great video.
I know Truman was a racist. But so was FDR. And FDR a Jew-hater.
W. Mark Felt is a distant cousin of mine(going back to George Felt (1601-1693), on Wikipedia) I take a lot of the bad things against Hoover with a grain of salt. The people saying it are the same old crew we don't trust now, so why would we trust them then, he was powerful and like almost anyone would be expected to be as a human, a little corrupt, I think the proof is in the pudding, since all the things ge is accused of being against proliferated, what happened, the USA has deteriorated, massively and it has been infected with such unamerican ideals that our very existence for the betterment of our own people's interests as intended and as is natural has been shoved aside where society is a heist against those who built all of this and now nothing is being built, nothing is being saved, nothing is being created, nothing maintained, it's impossible to survive without being in daddy gubmint's pocket, no more self determinationism, huge inneffective and tyrranical government. Hoover might have been bad in some ways, I'd take him over all these people in there now. I'd take the pre-'73 world over this one...even if I prefer the pre-1913 world. My family has been in this country 160 years before Washington took the oath of office and we'll be here after that too... it's looking like a conflict over the future is coming sooner than later.
I found out recently that my grandmother worked in his office, for him directly.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. 5 STARS!
Thank you kindly
My mom worked for Hoover during WWII, she would never tell us what she did for the FBI. We have several letter from Hoover to my Mom, thanking her for a good job. And congrats for her marriage to my father. Washington DC is where my Mom and Dad met. Dad wes with the military police, if I remember correctly 647 military police. Later he guarded German POW at Fort Greeley CO.
Awesome
Another great episode
Great comparison to Heydrich! Good stuff as always
Thanks again!
That office reeks of nothing but impropriety. Always have, always, will. If not extremely cognizant, that very office will be the downfall of America.
Wow... I'm honestly shocked I never knew any of this before now. Thank you so much
You are so welcome!
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNELColin, have you heard, that Hoover was Black?
im so proud of your work and wisdom, ty.
Thank you kindly
This title should be, " how many ads can we squeeze into this short film"
Send your complaints to YT...
Venona not Verona...and FBI Agent Puvis did not kill Bonnie & Clyde. That was former Texas Ranger Frank Hamer.
Purvis tracked them down, through OK, Hoover less than happy that Purvis shared information. he wanted the FBI to have all the credit
Excellent video!
Thank you! Cheers!
Good morning
Morning
And good night.
Now I understand why cartoons that featured Hoover frequently showed him in women's clothing.
I understand that the FBI is adopting Stasi tactics and moralities.
Thank you so much.
Always welcome
Thanks for another informative and interesting video
Hoover was gay and part black. The two things he hated the most. How ironic
Thanks for watching.
What a horrible person given all the power for injustice. This is why America turned out what is is now.
Hoover sucked like a vacuum cleaner huh? Lol i bet he did 😂😂😂😂😂
Did he?
Saying Hoover was the first director of the FBI is deceptive similar to saying Allen Dulles was the first director of the CIA, the first director was OSS head ,Wild Bill Donovan ;and was later renamed the CIA through government machination SO no Allen Dulles was not the first director of information Intelligence . Like was J Hoover was preceded by Charles Joseph Bonaparte being the first director of the Bureau of Investigation which was found to have put thousands in prison on false pretenses in the early twentieth century to promote a war the government wanted and many people of the U.S. did not . A lot of information is being left out like showing up to the scene of car accident after the cars have been hauled away by tow trucks.
It was the OSS , not CIA under Donovan. "Federal Bureau of Investigation" saw Hoover as first director. Names mean something.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL exactly names mean nothing similar to the CHEKA being renamed the NKVD it is the U.S. Government / Academia renamed the OSS to the CIA and gave it a new "director" like wise they did the same with the The Bureau of Investigations renaming it the Federal Bureau of Investigations with a new director, exact same organizations renamed to hide their history. Very few people know that Felix Dzerzhinsky murdered his own sister when he was a teenager and history does not record it as such. I stopped believing history and only look at out comes every act is intentional that is written about in history books and the books are written to cover that up and hide it .