po-faced walker argument trail riding

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2011
  • Down the Wayfarers' walk, some old lady tries to tell me I'm not meant to be there, yeah right!!
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  • @rudebwoy8
    @rudebwoy8 10 років тому +152

    Sir Lancelot 1 - 0 Gandalf's Mum

  • @baltsosser
    @baltsosser 6 років тому +27

    You can explain how things work to some people, but you can't understand it for them. Nice work mate.

  • @maselbac
    @maselbac Рік тому +7

    Although some grumpy people make themselves look unintelligent. You boys did exactly the same with your gestures and language.
    As a motorcyclist myself, riding sportbikes and ADV's... while you were as respectful as possible during the debate. You let yourselves down recording your insults at the end.
    Enjoy the byways lads

  • @colinunderwood2095
    @colinunderwood2095 7 років тому +104

    as a horse owner i agree with the motorbike guy whats wrong with sharing ; i drive my pony in exercise cart and 99% of bikers on road or off road have allways shown me respect;;;;

  • @dumbleduke4225
    @dumbleduke4225 6 років тому +33

    You know what, I wish I had this level of constraint and ability to remain calm when someone is going out of their way to be a pain in the arse. I recently bought an off road bike and there are so few places to go, nice to see you enjoying what’s left of the few roads. Going to have to join this trf!

    • @iangrimshaw1
      @iangrimshaw1 Рік тому +1

      Just a couple of tips. Don't call it an 'off-road' bike especially when talking to none bikers; try, "trail bike". And join the TRF! Best thing you can do to find and enjoy trails and help keep them open. Enjoy

  • @BaddaBigBoom
    @BaddaBigBoom 6 років тому +5

    "Unlucky bitch, unlucky!!" ...what a triumph. Three strapping lads on motorcycles, fend off the scary elderly woman on her own in the middle of leafy Berkshire. Welcome to the future of Great Britain.

  • @Shannmeister
    @Shannmeister 7 років тому +51

    She was probably some townie who thinks that the countryside is purely for her own enjoyment. The same kind that complain about church bells ringing and the noise and smells livestock that make.

    • @ivafatRRRs
      @ivafatRRRs 3 роки тому

      Dictionary Townie... person in countryside complains about the scent of manure.
      Country folk on the other hand argue what sort of shit is making the smell.

    • @martinfretwell
      @martinfretwell Рік тому

      Build her a new car park and costa coffeee. Townies

  • @whitefields5595
    @whitefields5595 3 роки тому +31

    You won the argument until the 2 stroker roared away flinging the gravel

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      @emmettiker5387 3 роки тому

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      @bryannova5655 3 роки тому

      @Emmett Iker instablaster ;)

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      @emmettiker5387 3 роки тому

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      @emmettiker5387 3 роки тому

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    • @bryannova5655
      @bryannova5655 3 роки тому

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  • @kishchester
    @kishchester 10 років тому +81

    I thought that was an old man!! Haha

    • @tonychambers6275
      @tonychambers6275 3 роки тому +1

      Thought that was a shepherd looking for his flock 🙈

  • @johnmunro4952
    @johnmunro4952 6 років тому +32

    the very same "red sock brigade" ( love that) will happily tramp across private land because of their "right to roam".

  • @spicy110
    @spicy110 10 років тому +17

    Well said many of the Greenland's round here are now foot paths. Still had dirty looks while on the few that are left.

  • @olliedavies3696
    @olliedavies3696 9 років тому +38

    Handled that like an absolute boss.

  • @lowrangers2012Reloaded
    @lowrangers2012Reloaded 8 років тому +19

    That was very good indeed. Just got a little bit condescending to her in places otherwise that would have been a brilliant bit of laning PR to push around. Completely agree with all your sentiments though! Well done for staying so clam and collected.

  • @cellectronic
    @cellectronic 8 років тому +22

    Just a point, you guys are really great, I go wild camping and mountain biking and take my dog in Wales and guys on the motor bikes are always considerate. Its nice to see you all and about , Take care and enjoy .

    • @bigglesbiggles4999
      @bigglesbiggles4999 3 роки тому +1

      I've met some that are considerate but many others that ain't..

    • @markthoughtswithukrainemas2072
      @markthoughtswithukrainemas2072 Рік тому +1

      Yes they are really great calling a old women a Bitch and giving here the one finger !!!! Yes they are really nice guys ...

  • @LeeJane2009
    @LeeJane2009 3 роки тому +9

    Whenever I’ve met guys like yourselves on these tracks on bikes I have found them to be very polite, turning their engines off while I send my cows passed, no problems. 👍

    • @ianpearce5745
      @ianpearce5745 Рік тому +1

      Good to hear a positive from people who don't actually ride motorcycles.

    • @boredmalcontent
      @boredmalcontent 8 місяців тому

      past

    • @Hrossey
      @Hrossey 2 місяці тому

      Good grief! I hope they didn’t speak to you and you guys now give each other nods and waves Everytime you pass!!!
      **gasps** 😂❤

  • @BeanoMark
    @BeanoMark 3 роки тому

    YooChoob offered me this clip today, and I’m so happy that you all cut your engines and explained it. I’m a road biker, but try not to be aggressive when things happen to me rather to explain instead. Perfect.

  • @t-bonevlogs1725
    @t-bonevlogs1725 10 років тому +7

    You absolute legend. Don't understand why people can't share. Especially when you're allowed to be there.

    • @markthoughtswithukrainemas2072
      @markthoughtswithukrainemas2072 Рік тому +1

      Where have you seen these people before ,,, are they famous how do you know there names your calling them a Legend , where are the famous from

  • @britishmgtow7251
    @britishmgtow7251 5 років тому +6

    'Red Sock Brigade'
    Love it

  • @oliverarmstrong9324
    @oliverarmstrong9324 10 років тому +3

    These Greenlaning vids combined with the RC vids earned you a sub :)

  • @MuayHero
    @MuayHero 8 років тому +35

    heres steve.... my lawyer.... priceless

  • @KTMAngryDragon
    @KTMAngryDragon 10 років тому +10

    Shared this with my friends the other day, seems they're all commenting now! This was great by the way, a real sore spot for me now that all the rambling nazi's are getting the lanes closed off all over Cumbria. I can't even off-road in my own home county now because of self-righteous tourists.

    • @KTMAngryDragon
      @KTMAngryDragon 9 років тому +5

      So use the other 95% of brideways and designated footpaths in the uk that are prohibited for motorised vehicles, bicycles even in some cases and horses. There are hardly any of these tracks left in the UK and all because of miserable, selfish misery old gits like you who clearly think that the remaining 2% of greenlanes and 3% of shared tracks is clearly too much for your entitled self.

  • @AdamSVT
    @AdamSVT 10 років тому +65

    nicely done!!! Your buddy was great handling her with respect but putting her in her place..

  • @imneverwrong303
    @imneverwrong303 9 років тому +8

    That is the best that I have ever seen a situation like this handled!

  • @hgm8337
    @hgm8337 4 місяці тому +1

    those 2-stroke bikes make a hell of a din though

  • @mattmattmatt131313
    @mattmattmatt131313 6 років тому +2

    Damn the English have the most polite ways to tell you to "Fuck Off!!".
    Then he puts on his arming cap and rides off into the distance like he's in a Monty Python sketch. XD

  • @paulgw101
    @paulgw101 6 років тому +6

    Ahh!! Basking in the sweet smell of being right! 😂🏍👍🏻

  • @danjames4086
    @danjames4086 Рік тому

    I hike, mountain bike, kayak, cycle....and used to do a bit of green laning. I have often encountered this same attitude. You're comments about sharing are bang on...there's plenty of room for everyone.

  • @brucegibson7478
    @brucegibson7478 3 роки тому +1

    I can't remember ever seeing a sign like that on any of the dirt tracks I have used for walking or riding a motorbike, we used to get loads of complaints for riding off-road on the old pit heaps and woods and the rubbish tip land and gravel works when I was young, the best bit is it keeps teenagers out of trouble when they are repairing and riding motorbikes and nobody heard us after we were out of the village and onto the rough ground but they still phoned the police.

  • @TheFriskyBiker
    @TheFriskyBiker 10 років тому +9

    Love it! cant believe she kept arguing with you even though she was wrong

    • @x66Hawk66x
      @x66Hawk66x Рік тому

      Not uncommon of these sort of people, they often double down, when they realise that they are in the wrong, rather than respecting the facts.

  • @MotoMadness
    @MotoMadness 7 років тому +6

    Hi man would it be ok to feature your clip in a stupid/angry ppl vs bikers some
    time? It would be credited in the description and comments sections.
    Thanks, MM.

  • @nickg2431
    @nickg2431 Рік тому +2

    Over in Greece its an off road bikers paradise,as long as you dont have a loud exhaust,slow down for animals and be polite and respectful.I have mostly only ever been greeted with waves and curiosity on public land.Most greeks ask me in greek"what are you doing here" expressing genuine suprise why anyone would want to go there.When i tell them that the greek countryside is the best most beautiful place on earth(imho) they are usually happy and proud.Many have friends with restaurants and cafes that i eat and drink in.Some private farmers let me ride across their land.

    • @ianpearce5745
      @ianpearce5745 Рік тому +1

      Also in Cyprus people are really friendly, we even had a farmer bring some tools for us to repair a broken down bike

    • @ianpearce5745
      @ianpearce5745 Рік тому +1

      Good to see an old 525 rfs out on the lanes .

    • @nickg2431
      @nickg2431 Рік тому

      @@ianpearce5745 yes and like my old 450 husky

  • @y2kxj
    @y2kxj 6 років тому +2

    Wow things are different over there.. I am in northern Ontario Canada we have hundreds of thousands of old logging roads that for the most part are all,open to any vehicle. I know one set of road that you can to over 200 k on gravel from town to town with at least 100 road going off that. The only unwritten rule is the logging truck have right of way even if the are on the wrong side of the road. Some roads are maintained but most are abandoned.

  • @sheffielduk3428
    @sheffielduk3428 Рік тому

    Absolutely amazing, ive just got a yzf 250 do you know where is best plave for off road bikes to go in uk? Thanks

  • @lukeBishopp
    @lukeBishopp 10 років тому +4

    Hahahaha I love it he was so polite to the lady and explained what had been put in effect but now she decided that since there was no tarmac there you weren't allowed and then got on her high horse about things when he kept saying all I want to do is share it made me properly belly laugh

  • @mppivvas
    @mppivvas Рік тому

    Brilliant, and a little lesson in sharing 👍🏻

  • @Nek0a
    @Nek0a 8 років тому +3

    this is so good! explained everything so well she had nothing to say.

  • @turbo311
    @turbo311 10 років тому +4

    The English are so much better at explaining things without arguing. I could never imagine it going that way in the US. There would have been screaming and threats.

  • @rosicroix777
    @rosicroix777 6 років тому +4

    Little bo peep's just angry you aint sheep ! Thumbs up the way you handled this, I coulnt've been that polite.

  • @kinglouis6974
    @kinglouis6974 4 роки тому

    I’ve got a kdx220, but I int got a clue where to take it , any advice

  • @AngryDirtBiker
    @AngryDirtBiker 4 роки тому

    Hello guys, good video, we are wondering if we can include it in our future compilation? Giving all the credits in description/video. Enjoy ur day!

  • @thra5herxb12s
    @thra5herxb12s Рік тому +1

    That's pretty much spot on. There are thousands of miles of footpaths and they chose to walk on a byway that is open to all traffic.

  • @TheWizardOfTheFens
    @TheWizardOfTheFens Рік тому

    We walk, ride horses and enduro bikes….we share the limited access we all have with anyone who we find using it. What we don’t do is swap hats depending on the hobby we are doing at the time.
    Some people just CAN’T stand to see anyone else enjoying life.

  • @mothballjim
    @mothballjim 8 років тому

    What bike is this??

  • @TS50ER
    @TS50ER Рік тому

    The Bo-Peep stick is true winner here today.

  • @davescopes249
    @davescopes249 3 роки тому +2

    I used to get this crap so often when I used to go green laning on my quad. I found that the best way to deal with it if you can is totally ignore them. Unless it's the one's that lash out at you. Always best to record. 👍

  • @MRZRSPSOfficial
    @MRZRSPSOfficial 8 років тому

    Were abouts was this track?

  • @hampshireoffroad8908
    @hampshireoffroad8908 4 роки тому +2

    We get this a lot in Hampshire, very well put across to the ignorant walker 👍

  • @teepee296
    @teepee296 3 роки тому

    Fantastic question. Why can’t people share?

  • @mrtommyboy46
    @mrtommyboy46 11 років тому

    I just slow down and put my hand up (stop and engine for horses ) love the ending well done :)

  • @fazejevs4684
    @fazejevs4684 8 років тому +13

    People with those accents sound so majestic

  • @HardlyDrivenSon
    @HardlyDrivenSon 2 роки тому

    where are you guys based? would like to have a ride out one day

  • @karlnorman2427
    @karlnorman2427 5 років тому +1

    The lane has tyre tracks separated by green grass, thus indicating its well used prob by 4x4s. Should have pointed that out too. Any thick bastard with more than one eye could spot that.

  • @charlietreble5
    @charlietreble5 12 років тому

    haha i love this video so much!!!!!!!

  • @ianburrows7665
    @ianburrows7665 2 роки тому

    I get the same grief on my E mtb great trail that get round the back of Highclere Castle up to the gibbet

  • @ayeletrosen
    @ayeletrosen 9 років тому

    Hi @mb4488, I would love to get in touch regarding a TV story. What would be the best way to reach you?

  • @MxMadness
    @MxMadness 7 років тому

    Hey man,would it be nice if i feature this clip in my compilation soon?
    Of course credits in the description and comment section! :)

  • @cwinstanley5382
    @cwinstanley5382 10 років тому +1

    Can't stand interfering people like this. You did well to even give him the time of day. I would of just continued to ride past him.

  • @silverdale3207
    @silverdale3207 4 місяці тому

    Considering it's banned to 3 wheel plus vehicles it is a very well worn 4 wheel vehicle track, looks like there's plenty of traffic down there.

  • @Chris-sd8mk
    @Chris-sd8mk Рік тому +1

    The chap on the bike is correct,he’s very well spoken he handled it well😊

  • @bellerophonchallen8861
    @bellerophonchallen8861 Рік тому

    always one, Every time I meet a bike on the private lane to the farm I point out that there's no public access. they are always polite and apologetic and I never see them again. Every time I meet a walker with or without a dog loose, they argue the toss and try to claim it's a footpath their great aunt used to walk before the first world war, and often they come back week after week to try to make a point

  • @neilhunt7452
    @neilhunt7452 8 років тому

    Superb. Well done boys.

  • @starsailor49
    @starsailor49 Місяць тому

    Why is it you explain your point, explain the law but your forced to repeat it 10x of more and they STILL don’t get it!

  • @loopi222
    @loopi222 6 років тому

    Very diplomatic, that's a very small landmass and you're all doing great. I would have tracks on his hat.

    • @bigglesbiggles4999
      @bigglesbiggles4999 3 роки тому

      Hardly diplomatic when they came out with some rather unpleasant remarks about the old gal at the end of the clip

  • @phil955i
    @phil955i 6 років тому +1

    Whilst you were in the right there was no need to embellish. And noisy exhausts don't exactly make you popular on those trails.

  • @markcherriman6136
    @markcherriman6136 4 роки тому +1

    " I fought in the war you know ".........

  • @MegaChocko
    @MegaChocko 6 років тому +3

    Red sock brigade, Love it!

  • @scottthomson700
    @scottthomson700 10 років тому

    Brilliant!

  • @alanlegg9972
    @alanlegg9972 6 років тому +2

    Oh man why did you make yourself look an idiot at the end

  • @Grandsatsuma
    @Grandsatsuma 8 років тому

    Haha! This is brilliant!

  • @timpotimpo
    @timpotimpo 2 місяці тому

    Very well handled by the trail riders. Bravo!

  • @karigreyd2808
    @karigreyd2808 9 років тому

    We have the same problem in the U.S. I'm from CT and we literally have 1 place to legaly ride. I don't understand why can't people just share.

    • @timescapes
      @timescapes 9 років тому +2

      ***** because there are no footpaths for that? sharing is caring mr pube. I don't know about the US but here in the UK there are untold numbers of footpaths and walks free from all traffic. Greenlaners just want to use the greenlanes as they are allowed to by law.

  • @anthonybanks2979
    @anthonybanks2979 7 років тому

    love th guy taking the video ( checking throttle , gas tank looks good )

  • @TheWebmonkeyuk
    @TheWebmonkeyuk 10 років тому

    Some people eh, she knew her argument didn't stand but she wouldn't give up. Well done for staying calm

  • @leegrant1800
    @leegrant1800 6 років тому

    One day people learn to share instead of being greedy the only thing I don’t like about the sort of motorbikes But nothing “a set of earplugs doesn’t sort out guys keep on having fun.

  • @Tvishaify
    @Tvishaify 2 місяці тому

    Je suis cavalière, motarde et randonneuse et je comprends totalement le point de vue de ce monsieur qui veut se balader au calme et en sécurité. Quand on marche dans la nature, on a envie de calme, pas de se sentir agresser par des excités qui foncent en mode mad max avec des pots full bordel. Le cross et l'enduro devraient être cantonnés uniquement sur les terrains dédiés à cet usage. Ce n'est pas une pratique "nature" comme le VTT ou l'équitation ou la marche...etc.... C'est une pratique bruyante et fort polluante. C'est peut être autorisé mais ce n'est pas normal de mettre ainsi en danger des randonneurs à devoir côtoyer des véhicules roulants souvent très fort comme si ils étaient seuls au monde sur la piste.
    Et je comprends également les habitants de villages de montagnes excédés par nos passages répétés et bruyants en groupe quand les cols rouvrent en été. C'est autorisé. Pour l'instant.... Mais viendra un moment où la nuisance occasionnée finira par être interdite ou fortement contrôlée avec des quotas. Et oui nous sommes trop nombreux sur cette planète à nous marcher dessus...
    Les gens qui sont en campagne y sont pour le calme et la tranquillité. Forcément que nos sports mécaniques bruyants les dérangent.

  • @harbourwoodlandvisitor2445
    @harbourwoodlandvisitor2445 4 роки тому

    It's the first time I've heard of that phrase. Red sock brigade. What does it mean if you don't mind me asking. I live in a city and don't know a lot about country terms.

  • @darkshaman7087
    @darkshaman7087 Рік тому

    Myself likes a hike in the hills mainly to keep my weight down and I often come across bikers and I can’t say I like the sound of engines but most ain’t doing much harm and just out enjoying themselves and once they have past me the noise have gone, and most are polite and slows down not to rev crap up at me and it’s not only the bike noises I don’t like as I’m the same with my petrol strimmer, mower, chain saw and generators etc I just don’t like engine noise lol, but that’s just my problem and the same goes for these walkers the don’t like the noise but it’s just tough they must just ignore and like the bikers alone.

  • @philkennedy342
    @philkennedy342 Рік тому

    When I used to go ride with the trf derby the only trouble you had was with walkers as long as you showed respect and common curtesy there was no trouble with any one else and never with fellow horse riders

  • @petew8388
    @petew8388 3 роки тому +9

    I totally agree with you as a rider myself , but when you finally departed from the walker you should have started off slower. Also not a good idea to slag her off after, especially when you are posting a video. You nearly had it right lads ..........

    • @stillben
      @stillben 2 роки тому +1

      yeah shame about that bit

  • @ryanford5387
    @ryanford5387 6 років тому

    Lol ur friend needs to be lawer. He is the best at arguing respectively. Big thumbs up 👍👍

  • @SteveK3899
    @SteveK3899 2 роки тому

    Visited Millets to get fully kitted out then decides to go walking down a lane,plenty of other places to walk without getting in to a conflict.

  • @nickfry7705
    @nickfry7705 3 роки тому

    Shepherd?

  • @bikerboi1983
    @bikerboi1983 6 років тому

    It's good to share.

  • @saabaru05
    @saabaru05 11 років тому

    Watch out for secret ninja shepherds roaming through the woods, very dangerous.

  • @Mrrootsfull
    @Mrrootsfull 2 роки тому

    Wasn't there a paved road to your destiny?

  • @southerntrails
    @southerntrails 12 років тому +1

    Well played ;)

  • @WiltshireByways
    @WiltshireByways 8 років тому +46

    You did great until you sped away and started swearing at the end. It's hard to convince people we're not all 'tossers on crossers' when they see things like that, particularly as it took a lot of effort to get a motorcycle exemption to the seasonal TRO on the WW.

    • @gaggymott9159
      @gaggymott9159 6 років тому +6

      WiltshireByways Well said!

    • @cadwellkid1672
      @cadwellkid1672 6 років тому +3

      What a load of bollocks. But hurt people like you could learn a valuable life lesson from these guys

    • @gordonblackley8863
      @gordonblackley8863 6 років тому +6

      I agree, you were awesome till you pinned it away. And before you start I’m an enduro, MX and trail rider too.

    • @CrustyBiker
      @CrustyBiker 7 місяців тому

      The most accurate comment on here, it started so well with the spoken debate, but quickly lost it with aggressive acceleration,raucous noise, insults, finger gestures, ...against an old lady, nice one! I'd be embarrassed to be a part of that, I'm keeping my exhaust stock just to be more respectful and humble on byways and trails, Slow down to a trickle, smile and put hand up or nod, all have appreciated that and let us pass quietly without issue, I for one am grateful we've been granted the privilege, let's try and keep it!.. 🙏

  • @travisbickle6648
    @travisbickle6648 6 років тому +1

    My uncle used to have this problem on his land so he put some really bad ass rams on the path which attacked anything that moved, problem solved. Mind you their were some really pissed of bikers with smashed up fairings and broken light lens.

  • @GediSpock
    @GediSpock 6 років тому +12

    Very good point about there being miles and miles of footpaths.
    Yet this woman chose to walk down a byway.
    And moan.

    • @sidecarbod1441
      @sidecarbod1441 4 роки тому +9

      @Lola Morgan Yeah she does, but she has NO right to moan about other people using it legally.

    • @x66Hawk66x
      @x66Hawk66x 2 роки тому +2

      @Lola Morgan Of course she has just as much right to use it, however she cannot complain about other people who have the same amount of right using it.

    • @drbob7282
      @drbob7282 2 роки тому +2

      @@sidecarbod1441 but she has a point about how motorbikes ruin landscapes, like the Dales. Ruined by the constant noise of immature selifsh men.

    • @sidecarbod1441
      @sidecarbod1441 2 роки тому

      @@drbob7282 "Constant noise"...what a load of nonsense!

    • @sidecarbod1441
      @sidecarbod1441 2 роки тому

      @@drbob7282 She's lying through her teeth by saying that the guys on the bikes were not meant to be riding on the byway so I don't really care about anything else that she said, luckily not everyone who walks down a byway is like her, in the same way that not everyone who rides a bike is an immature selfish man.

  • @StuHNomadBiker
    @StuHNomadBiker 7 років тому

    firm but fair .... well put bud 👍

  • @ridingwithmrP
    @ridingwithmrP 3 роки тому

    Diplomacy of the highest order well done guys

  • @leewalker2221
    @leewalker2221 Рік тому

    Good man. Perfect

  • @LOSTTHEPLOT10
    @LOSTTHEPLOT10 11 років тому

    Yeah... Sweet, well done fellas.

  • @davidmarshall1259
    @davidmarshall1259 6 років тому

    I so wish I still had my xt500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @macrobins
    @macrobins 9 років тому

    that was well worth the seeing to the end "unlucky bitch" funny chap. made me choke on my drink. hahahahaha

  • @mcc9887
    @mcc9887 6 років тому +1

    you just love the argument ..hes an old man..sounds a very rehearsed argument ...

  • @Ldotvidz
    @Ldotvidz 9 років тому

    Showed her !!! Good lads !

  • @MarksMotography
    @MarksMotography 11 місяців тому +1

    Here in the forest, we see the veteran Karen, who has wandered from her natural habitat to try and ruin people's days.

    • @artb4700
      @artb4700 Місяць тому

      I can just hear this in my mind, spoken in a David Attenborough voice! 😂

  • @gnarlybadger690
    @gnarlybadger690 6 років тому +1

    Quality

  • @richardspurr261
    @richardspurr261 Рік тому

    very well handled, "red sock brigade" made me laugh. Keep riding safe chaps.