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  • Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
  • WATCH THE SERIES HERE: • The tominecon.7z Saga
    How to choose a secure password: www.microsoft....
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    Music by RetroGamingNow
    "Unknown Enigma" - • "Unknown Enigma" - Mus...
    "The Depths" - • "The Depths" - Music b...
    "A Secret Mission (Outro Theme)" - • "A Secret Mission (Out...
    #minecraft #mystery #secret #mojang #tominecon

КОМЕНТАРІ • 878

  • @RetroGamingNow
    @RetroGamingNow  3 місяці тому +1727

    Finally...the end to the saga. What do you think?

    • @CaptainBlack47
      @CaptainBlack47 3 місяці тому +42

      Well, it was a fun (if not obvious) conclusion, but it’s about the journey not the destination I spose

    • @Memory_Burner
      @Memory_Burner 3 місяці тому +5

      Cool ending

    • @vorbex221
      @vorbex221 3 місяці тому +5

      i like the story and end, but it felt slow to me

    • @Sploobicious
      @Sploobicious 3 місяці тому +12

      This one was also a decoy and the real tominecon.7z is hidden somewhere else with a different name

    • @yanikb.1312
      @yanikb.1312 3 місяці тому +7

      I think, I knew someone was gonna find the password, even if brute-forcing might seem infeasible.
      They found pack.png, I knew someone will find this password.

  • @Dave-cg9li
    @Dave-cg9li 3 місяці тому +2611

    *Love the rollercoaster that this story was:*
    1. We don't know the password but we know the decoy's
    2. We will never crack the password because it's so secure and nobody probably remembers it anymore, stop wasting resources and go touch some grass
    3. Dinnerbone knows the password and it's confirmed to be MC 1.0, but we should not feel entitled to know the password
    4. Lol guess what we got the password and it wasn't secure at all, took like 2 seconds to crack ez

    • @dexterity494
      @dexterity494 3 місяці тому +159

      it took 2 seconds **with the help of a leak that happened sometime in the past

    • @tacokoneko
      @tacokoneko 3 місяці тому +89

      i knew for a fact all along it would be cracked because mojang admitted it was used for other accounts and that confirms beyond a reasonable doubt that there is a similar or identical password somewhere in a password leak database

    • @Anticaat
      @Anticaat 3 місяці тому +2

      it sure is lmao

    • @SophieEevee
      @SophieEevee 3 місяці тому +28

      He never said the password wouldn't get cracked, he only said that brute forcing it was very unlikely and time consuming
      The password was found out by trying leaked Minecraft passwords

    • @estebang4538
      @estebang4538 3 місяці тому +18

      It took 2 seconds to crack, but it took a decade and a half for the password leak to make it that easy.

  • @TFBRamos
    @TFBRamos 3 місяці тому +4268

    get ready next week for: "The dark truth behind the meaning of boxpig41"

  • @Llama_PE
    @Llama_PE 3 місяці тому +1128

    you NOT having a password manager sponsor at the end of the video to immediately have one of the best ad transitions of all time will keep you up at night my man.

    • @random_greg
      @random_greg 3 місяці тому

      Seriously, I was totally looking for a Bitwarden promo.

    • @RetroGamingNow
      @RetroGamingNow  3 місяці тому +256

      It would have been a perfect opportunity haha

    • @Nice_Tree
      @Nice_Tree 3 місяці тому +27

      It feels like a fun way to teach kids about internet security

    • @joost00719
      @joost00719 3 місяці тому +12

      Then viewers will conclude that a password like this is actually secure because it took 13 years to crack!

    • @MattRose30000
      @MattRose30000 3 місяці тому +3

      no password manager protects you from data leaks
      (except that it makes it more convenient to change all your passwords regularly)

  • @hagridthetable
    @hagridthetable 3 місяці тому +495

    I imagine "boxpig41" is related to how notch made the creeper

    • @Lunarcreeper
      @Lunarcreeper 3 місяці тому +31

      wait you got a point there

    • @ezterry
      @ezterry 3 місяці тому +22

      I was going to say sounds like an internal reference to the creeper..

    • @Yackalips
      @Yackalips 3 місяці тому +14

      or maybe it has to do the fact that the pig is in the shape of a box...

    • @carterwachtel7625
      @carterwachtel7625 3 місяці тому +16

      Box, Check
      Pig, Check
      41cm Tall, Uh-oh

  • @awesome118-smmo
    @awesome118-smmo 3 місяці тому +914

    3:00
    Hackers in movies: The fool! He wrote down all his passwords in a book marked “Passwords”! Now all of his accounts are mine!
    Hackers in real life: “Hey, the Smash Mouth forum’s passwords got leaked.”
    “Cool, let’s try them on online banking.”

    • @Decodeish1
      @Decodeish1 3 місяці тому

      "Hm, I have to change my password on this website again because company policies.. oh let me just change the last number from boxpig41 to boxpig42."

    • @spieles21
      @spieles21 3 місяці тому +16

      Yeah, thats true

    • @Kandiifl00f
      @Kandiifl00f 3 місяці тому +12

      XKCD reference? :D

    • @awesome118-smmo
      @awesome118-smmo 3 місяці тому +1

      @/hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UA6HGwPagRXKB0S5SERFNawe yes!

    • @bobthegamingtaco6073
      @bobthegamingtaco6073 3 місяці тому +14

      Lol this is why I generate passwords based on physical objects I happen to have around me when I need a password, so unless they happen to know I brought home a party hat 7 years ago when I made my account, nobody will find my password (of course, not an actual example)

  • @clementpruvost8670
    @clementpruvost8670 3 місяці тому +1100

    Can't believe that the RGN community destroyed the password after 13 years. That's unexpected.

    • @Spinex0196
      @Spinex0196 3 місяці тому +34

      common Retro W

    • @underbed
      @underbed 3 місяці тому +21

      common doge W

    • @Cheato64
      @Cheato64 3 місяці тому +83

      Nah the RGN community didn't crack it. It was a combined effort between people from RGN, tominecon.7z team, CTMC, mc@home, Omniarchive, MCBYT's server, Dinnerbone, and more, but ultimately it was Doge from MCBYT's server who discovered the leak and the password. Technically the password was never brute forced. Nonetheless, without Retro's video, this probably would have never happened.

    • @raziel88
      @raziel88 3 місяці тому +11

      No one from RGN destroyed any password. Just some guy from our server tried a password and it worked. Madlad for that.
      The tominecon discord server got some people very very pissed about that btw 😂

    • @brickie9816
      @brickie9816 3 місяці тому +7

      Bro did you watch the video? Where did the "RGN community" come from?

  • @bobby6220
    @bobby6220 3 місяці тому +121

    Finally, after 13 years of fucking around we found out

  • @Spubbily01
    @Spubbily01 3 місяці тому +21

    Remind me in 5-6 years to add a promiscuous encrypted zip file on the website of the game I'm working on.

  • @nowayjose1870
    @nowayjose1870 3 місяці тому +34

    RGN: This mystery will probably never be solved, and maybe that's for the best...
    Doge: **Cracks Knuckles** solved it
    RGN: .....oh

    • @JoBot__
      @JoBot__ 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes. 😂

  • @dronix6624
    @dronix6624 3 місяці тому +415

    boxpig41 huh? i hope no other mojang passwords use a similar naming convention because otherwise there'll be chaos

    • @kazedcat
      @kazedcat 3 місяці тому +64

      It's already leaked that is how the password was uncovered.

    • @fantastikboom1094
      @fantastikboom1094 3 місяці тому +42

      They said they changed the passwords long time ago. This one is no problem.

    • @mrShift_0044
      @mrShift_0044 3 місяці тому

      @@fantastikboom1094 *7 hours from now a critical information was leaked from multiple Mojang user accounts, servers and personal employee devices leading to discovery of multiple inside problems the company has, now that it belongs to Microsoft, uncovering reason why **_yearly_** updates give one block and one mob per 3 months*

    • @D0Samp
      @D0Samp 3 місяці тому +42

      Apparently the most disastrous side effect was that this used to be Mojang's Wi-Fi password.

    • @xanderplayz3446
      @xanderplayz3446 3 місяці тому +5

      @@D0Sampwhich is suprising because they didn’t use WPA enterprise (user and password required, not just a password)

  • @kawiniscool3636
    @kawiniscool3636 3 місяці тому +360

    This shit still is goingbon😭😭😭
    Dang that's a good password

    • @Sploobicious
      @Sploobicious 3 місяці тому +8

      It never ends lmao

    • @roroo
      @roroo 3 місяці тому +5

      thats what im sayin HAHA

    • @yarikzhiga
      @yarikzhiga 3 місяці тому +7

      I thought it was another ARG 😂

    • @hundredbasedthingymabobs
      @hundredbasedthingymabobs 3 місяці тому +3

      nah that shit over

    • @cyllene922p
      @cyllene922p 3 місяці тому +3

      no fr i thought it ended last ep 😭

  • @A.pplefritter
    @A.pplefritter 3 місяці тому +94

    3:24 thanks for the shout out retro!!!!!

    • @sans1331
      @sans1331 3 місяці тому +4

      good job for getting shouted-out! what did you do?

    • @A.pplefritter
      @A.pplefritter 3 місяці тому +4

      @@sans1331 I told him where the muffin man lives and gave him cheese believe it or not

    • @ZphyZphyer
      @ZphyZphyer 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@A.pplefrittermm cheese

    • @A.pplefritter
      @A.pplefritter 3 місяці тому

      @@ZphyZphyer w cheese

    • @Dwight-o4g
      @Dwight-o4g 3 місяці тому

      Cool but ?

  • @Cartoon-gu4dl
    @Cartoon-gu4dl 3 місяці тому +308

    I am now throughly convinced RGN has the Minecraft lore more complete then Matpat's theroys. Matpat may dominate FNAF, but this guy has Minecraft down pat.

    • @Spinex0196
      @Spinex0196 3 місяці тому +6

      fr dawg he would be like the perfect man for any mystery(excluding mat)

    • @ph03beuwu
      @ph03beuwu 3 місяці тому +15

      and its actual proof not theories too

    • @Halfendymion
      @Halfendymion 3 місяці тому +6

      This doesn't really have anything to do with his theories but true

    • @Cartoon-gu4dl
      @Cartoon-gu4dl 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Halfendymion lol this guy usually covers it insanely well tho it's a bit out of context sorry

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 3 місяці тому +7

      Give Matpat credit for making this guy step up. Being The Voice for lore on a specific community is boring. Lets one get complacent. Plus seeing people bounce off eachother can be fun so long as it's not toxic.

  • @Videoswithsoarin
    @Videoswithsoarin 3 місяці тому +25

    boxpig is the perfect way to describe a minecraft pig

  • @theminiyosshi2901
    @theminiyosshi2901 3 місяці тому +227

    0:41 missed opportunity for putting the yellow text on this video’s thumbnail on the bottom right

    • @Deadbay
      @Deadbay 3 місяці тому +19

      i know it would have been such a cool littla rainbow

    • @ratewcropolix
      @ratewcropolix 3 місяці тому +11

      i think he didn't do it cuz the bottom right corner of thumbnail is covered by time

    • @HerzaPop
      @HerzaPop 3 місяці тому +4

      It would be a microsoft logo, but I love the idea of 4 color rainbow@@Deadbay

    • @thatoddshade
      @thatoddshade 3 місяці тому

      wait… 00:41!? just like the password, "boxpig41"?!

    • @VanK782
      @VanK782 3 місяці тому +1

      It's a double shame since minecraft's yellow splash text is in bottom right, and it's the final missing position based on the previous three thumbnails

  • @fish_pancakes
    @fish_pancakes 3 місяці тому +255

    i still think it's notch's manifesto

    • @ItsJoeyG
      @ItsJoeyG 3 місяці тому +56

      maybe notch’s manifesto was the friends we made along the way

    • @okieness9849
      @okieness9849 3 місяці тому +14

      Imagine if this is another decoy

    • @Bananappleboy
      @Bananappleboy 3 місяці тому +18

      The Microsoft Revolution and its consequences; By Notch Person

    • @futuremapper_
      @futuremapper_ 3 місяці тому +6

      They paid Amazon to mask the update time so it didn’t seem like the file was updated

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy 3 місяці тому +12

      @@ItsJoeyG not to be a killjoy but Notch's manifesto was the I N S A N E right wing ramblings on Twitter that made every normal and smart person stop liking him

  • @patryksiennicki1747
    @patryksiennicki1747 3 місяці тому +22

    not gonna lie, dinnerbone's reaction seems strongly exaggerated now in hindsight. like, bro, just say that you didnt consider being cautious about stuff like password security because mojang was a small studio at the time, and tell the guy who made the videos/kept the original file to take them down, and make a few comments about how important password security is

    • @zbsfm
      @zbsfm Місяць тому +2

      i agree. also like. what did he hope to accomplish by telling internet sleuths "don't try to crack mystery boxes"?? m8 read the room 😁

    • @iskawhiskers
      @iskawhiskers 16 днів тому +1

      @@zbsfm it's not about telling internet sleuths not to crack mystery boxes, he directly addressed his actual problem -- entitlement. he felt that a lot of codecrackers involved felt they were entitled to the 7z's contents, when the original version was legitimately never intended for them. his real sentiment was "not everything _is_ a mystery box. sometimes it's just a box that isn't yours."

  • @wdiscute
    @wdiscute 3 місяці тому +19

    box pig has a very good chance of directly corelating to the creeper, as it's most iconic mob it probably made for a funny and easy to remember password for 2009.
    The 41, although I can not be certain, I've also used that specific number for other things when I need a "random numer". My thought process is that 42 is a very common number because of the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, so i subtracted 1 to make it more unique. Notch has also made some references (i think theres even a splash text) relating to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy making this more likely

    • @JoBot__
      @JoBot__ 3 місяці тому

      That makes sense.

    • @HoStallin
      @HoStallin 3 місяці тому +4

      The ID for a block of gold in Minecraft is 41

    • @JoBot__
      @JoBot__ 3 місяці тому

      @@HoStallin Hmm, interesting.

  • @ChakatStormCloud
    @ChakatStormCloud 3 місяці тому +6

    I love how "We couldn't let the password to the file be found because it was also used on some critical sutff"
    turned into "So we found the password from this critical stuff, that was leaked ages ago, and it was the password"
    Instead of the password being found from cracking the 7z, and then used on the dangerous stuff, the reverse happened instead.
    It's like if your friend asked to use your phone, and you refused because it's password is also your bank pin, and he's like OH I already know that!
    Task failed successfully XD

  • @Sherolox
    @Sherolox 3 місяці тому +105

    Collecting breaches?
    Totally not suspicious at all 👀

    • @freedustin
      @freedustin 3 місяці тому +13

      wait until they start talking about rainbow tables

    • @BrainStormzFTC
      @BrainStormzFTC 3 місяці тому +38

      Eh, probably pretty standard if you do penitration testing and such.

    • @Nichrysalis
      @Nichrysalis 3 місяці тому +10

      You don't really collect the breaches, the information from them is all available online and you search and filter these online databases to check if your company or emails are compromised.

    • @Sherolox
      @Sherolox 3 місяці тому

      @@BrainStormzFTC
      Ah well, makes sense.
      Wouldn't want my data to be found in a breach.
      Better check your stuff via sites like haveibeenpawned.

    • @Sherolox
      @Sherolox 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Nichrysalis
      Yeah, if your passwords are in a breach, you're kinda screwed anyway.
      On second thought, it's all Mojang's fault for reusing the password lmao.

  • @James2210
    @James2210 3 місяці тому +2

    This is what he told me on Reddit when I asked him:
    Do you know which breach contained the password? Is it something you had laying around or did you find it on the Internet?
    - Yes, it was in the bitly breach. I’ve been collecting such data for around 10 years now. But the crazy thing with bitly is that the hashes are missing the salts / function is unknown, so only a few people have ever been able to crack those hashes, and they are assumed to be those involved with the original breach and know the salts / function. Somewhere along those years I found cracked bitly hashes and I don’t remember where even. This is the reason why the hash wasn’t cracked sooner - I wasn’t the first to try breached passwords, my collection was just far better. (It is over 4 billion unique records)

  • @indetermite
    @indetermite 3 місяці тому +17

    2:50 Mate, this is BASIC security advice here. The fact that people don't know you shouldn't reuse passwords in the year of our Lord 2024 continues to baffle me to this day.

    • @Tiishen
      @Tiishen 3 місяці тому +6

      It is indeed basic, yet SO many people still don't follow it. Most people are just plain lazy and don't care to get a password manager or even write them down on a notepad, so they'll use and reuse the simplest passwords

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy 3 місяці тому +1

      Well, actually, it would have been 2011.

    • @Tiishen
      @Tiishen 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SnoFitzroy yes, but the advice was aimed at viewers now, in 2024. And it still applies just as much

    • @nathanhollow0
      @nathanhollow0 3 місяці тому +4

      i mean the 2020 pandemic taught us most people never even wash their hands regularly, so i don't think basic common sense is that common

    • @indetermite
      @indetermite 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nathanhollow0 Ong man. Humans tend to think they are better than they are.

  • @ramune_u
    @ramune_u 3 місяці тому +8

    i had no idea you wrote the music in the background, they were all so amazing to listen to!

  • @DesolateLavender
    @DesolateLavender 3 місяці тому +58

    The things to be learned from all of this:
    1. Don't pick locks that are there with reason without permission. (Obvious.)
    2. Be careful with information, sensitive or not. (Obvious.)
    3. Dinnerbone is a swell dude, and I'm glad he could give some well worded insight onto the topic.

    • @InternetCrusader-rb7ls
      @InternetCrusader-rb7ls 3 місяці тому +2

      I agree. I have literally learned an important moral lesson from this saga.

    • @Shock_Treatment
      @Shock_Treatment 2 місяці тому

      Don't give your locks out to the public is more like it.

  • @MidvightMirage
    @MidvightMirage 3 місяці тому +5

    1:45 creeper reference

  • @thehunt3rs_
    @thehunt3rs_ 3 місяці тому +6

    RGN: use different passwords!
    Me, who uses roughly 8 variations of the same password: im five paralelle universes ahead of you

  • @Nerdgaming69-w1t
    @Nerdgaming69-w1t 3 місяці тому +30

    Hey babe new RGN video just dropped

  • @turtlebear4900
    @turtlebear4900 3 місяці тому +34

    honestly it was a great journey to see so many people work on one project for such a long time. More of this energy to other parts of the world would make this place such a better place.

  • @ChandravijayAgrawal
    @ChandravijayAgrawal 3 місяці тому +2

    This whole mystery can be a good Ad for password managers and 2FA security awareness

  • @Chill_Block
    @Chill_Block 3 місяці тому +14

    Best example of rollercoaster trilogy

    • @SupersuMC
      @SupersuMC 3 місяці тому +1

      We don't talk about Roller Coaster Tycoon World...

  • @monetalimonolistothlaszlo8996
    @monetalimonolistothlaszlo8996 3 місяці тому +4

    I think the Devs also did it very well, they even gave a longer password for the decoy than the original file, so a lot of people going to start normally crack from the lenght of the decoy's password.

  • @CrumbMuffins
    @CrumbMuffins 3 місяці тому +29

    The don’t reuse passwords really had me thinking the was going to be the start of an ad read.

    • @zbsfm
      @zbsfm Місяць тому +1

      hadusinthefirsthalf.jpg

  • @UnderscoreAngel
    @UnderscoreAngel 3 місяці тому +3

    this just reminds me how the password for the GameCube disc drive firmware was just "password" then when hackers cracked it, Nintendo improved the security of it on the Wii by changing it to "PASSWORD" all caps. truly a security improvement.

  • @Golden_Bunny_Aus
    @Golden_Bunny_Aus 2 місяці тому +2

    2:54 don't tell me what to do, I'm not gonna reveal my passwords anyways

  • @kimikanna_live
    @kimikanna_live 3 місяці тому +3

    This mystery teased my brain for years. Huuuuuge thanks to your community for solving it!

  • @Bobbias
    @Bobbias 3 місяці тому +14

    "I'm not sure what this means" minecraft is a game where everything, including pigs, is made of boxes. I don't think theres any more meaning to that, just an allusion to how everything in minexraft is boxes, with a number tacked on the end to make it more secure.

  • @AndyHappyGuy
    @AndyHappyGuy 3 місяці тому +5

    I was half expecting “this video is sponsored by Dashlane” at the end.

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz 3 місяці тому +2

    Being able to check the candidates so quickly means that there is some way other than running it through the key algorithm half a million times. This is either bypassing the iterations with a direct computation, or using pre-built hashes or something like that. That would indicate a lack of "salt", which is there to prevent the use of pre-built tables.

  • @718jef
    @718jef 3 місяці тому +13

    Boxpig, prolly a refrence to mincraft pigs, the creation of creepers, overworld pigmen and what later trickeled down into nether pigmen/piglins

  • @embeddedbastler6406
    @embeddedbastler6406 3 місяці тому +54

    It was only 8 characters all along? Did anyone even try to brute force it? It seems like this could had be done in a reasonable amount of time even without the password breach.

    • @Johndoe-mv5ii
      @Johndoe-mv5ii 3 місяці тому +6

      Some of the early forum posts saying they had brute forced it may be true

    • @Nichrysalis
      @Nichrysalis 3 місяці тому +14

      You're still looking at about a 2-5 year timeline of constantly running a brute force program 24/7 before you find the password. That's just not feasible let alone practical. The other thing is that we didn't know that it was only 8 characters, so there's no reason to conduct brute force attacks assuming that it was.

    • @Nichrysalis
      @Nichrysalis 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Johndoe-mv5iiI disagree, people are severely overestimating the capability of modern technology. People are not understanding that when you use AES-256 you aren't creating a hash instantly, you are creating that hash 500,000 times. When you know the password, this feels instant because computers are really good at computation. When you don't know the password though, it takes forever and it puts a load on the hardware to keep calculating. This encryption is intended as a deterrent because of its computational load, because cpu and gpus do have a finite life span. You will likely render your hardware unoperational before finding the password therefore bruteforcing it not only comes with the cost of time but also wear and tear on your cpu/gpu. Even when the user who found the password filtered it down to a few thousand possibilities, it still took 5 minutes. And assuming hashcatz was proceeding alphabetically we know that it wasn't even through all of those options. You're looking at years of 24/7 trying to brute force an 8 character password. It's just not reasonable to expect anyone to have done that.

    • @chri-k
      @chri-k 3 місяці тому +10

      7z's has a key-stretching factor of 2^19. This is effectively adding another 8-9 random letters/numbers to the password, which means completely brute-forcing it becomes unrealistic.
      However a wordlist attack should still have worked if someone actually committed to it, it would just take an unreasonable amount of time and resources

    • @iladshyanchess
      @iladshyanchess 3 місяці тому +3

      I brute forced 6 characters and gave up

  • @afmetz
    @afmetz 3 місяці тому +37

    whats the next tominecon vid gonna be?

    • @Sploobicious
      @Sploobicious 3 місяці тому +26

      It turns out that this tominecon.7z was also a decoy and we have to find the real one

    • @fightingtable
      @fightingtable 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Sploobicious it wasn't a decoy there's literally proof of the file being the same as the original

    • @Sploobicious
      @Sploobicious 3 місяці тому +6

      @@fightingtable I know lol I was just making up a reason that there would be another vid on it

    • @mipmop6969
      @mipmop6969 3 місяці тому +7

      @@fightingtable actually dinnerbone created a time machine and was able to replace what we all thought was the original with a decoy, and its now impossible to find the true original because it never got uploaded to the minecraft website in this timeline, so there will probably be a follow up video soon

    • @VixYW
      @VixYW 3 місяці тому +5

      @@fightingtable Unless that wasn't the original and it was created before even minecon was a thing back in 2009 and it's actually a typo and it was supposed to be minecoin and has Notch's digital wallet information and...

  • @dcbl_
    @dcbl_ 3 місяці тому +16

    who's ready for the 5th video next week?!

    • @frkieran
      @frkieran 3 місяці тому +1

      there's nothing else to add, this is the conclusion

  • @Olive_Gamer139
    @Olive_Gamer139 3 місяці тому +6

    This story really allows us to think more about other "mysteries" like this. Great videos!

  • @tkain61
    @tkain61 3 місяці тому +18

    This was a shockingly fast-moving saga.

    • @technomanuel
      @technomanuel 3 місяці тому +2

      Dude it's been up for more than a decade

    • @RoddyDev
      @RoddyDev 3 місяці тому +1

      only 12 years no big deal

  • @_end3rguy_
    @_end3rguy_ 3 місяці тому +1

    I new this video was going to come out. After saying “this will take millions of millennia to crack” I knew it was gonna take like a week

  • @PhoxphorusKitKat
    @PhoxphorusKitKat 3 місяці тому +1

    The lesson of the day:
    1.15*10^77 possible answers means nothing when you aren't smart/careful about your one answer.

  • @szupertntakos5000
    @szupertntakos5000 3 місяці тому +1

    "Let me upload this video, it surely won't become a 4 episode long series within a few weeks, right?"
    -RGN two weeks ago

  • @RatTailSoup4
    @RatTailSoup4 3 місяці тому +3

    this could have all been one perfect ad for a password/VPN service

  • @WwZa7
    @WwZa7 3 місяці тому +1

    Next video title: "There's MORE to the secret Minecraft file no one cracked until now."

  • @chaxiraxi_ytb
    @chaxiraxi_ytb 3 місяці тому +1

    I've just noticed you are the producer of every music of this video... It fits so well in it that's incredible keep going!!

  • @nathanlamaire
    @nathanlamaire 3 місяці тому +2

    The problem is, remembering passwords for all websites is super difficult if not impossible. Password managers can also be leaked and there are multiple occasions where passwords get leaked from commercial password managers. Password-based authentication is never safe as long as humans keep making mistakes. Nowadays, I never trust any websites without any second authentication layers.

  • @shieldplus
    @shieldplus 3 місяці тому

    Was anyone else just WAITING for it to be an ad for a password manager? "It was just a crummy commercial?!"

  • @ryelor123
    @ryelor123 3 місяці тому +1

    I was hoping it would've been something embarrassing.

  • @Mythbuster3808
    @Mythbuster3808 3 місяці тому +1

    Mojang is now frantically checking all there other passwords

  • @leoNillo
    @leoNillo 3 місяці тому

    "Will it ever get solved?"
    "Nah we will never solve it"
    "Well, we have some info"
    "Here is the password ez"

  • @calculator_gaming
    @calculator_gaming 3 місяці тому +1

    0:48 "hash cracking as a hobby" WHAT

  • @aprilnya
    @aprilnya 3 місяці тому +1

    damn, bro didnt even get a password manager sponsorship on the perfect video for a password manager sponsorship

  • @Foxyrobo
    @Foxyrobo 3 місяці тому +1

    It's crazy that every video in this series felt like it would be the last one

  • @maksiksq
    @maksiksq 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh god I could've totally done this, I feel so dumb for thinking someone already checked the big data breaches already. Gg anyways. That also explains why Dinnerbone said it was important at the time, as it was a corporate email.

  • @audax117
    @audax117 Місяць тому

    Pretty sure the pig was one of the most well known mobs of Minecraft back then, Story Mode's icon is even a pig. So "boxpig41" is just a box (a compressed file) including the "pig game" and 41 is just for added protection. But idk, maybe someone will farm some more videos in the future trying to overanalyze it.

  • @rimimimimimimimim4170
    @rimimimimimimimim4170 3 місяці тому +1

    Woah another update... I think it's the end every video really happy to see this one more time

  • @novarainbow
    @novarainbow 20 днів тому

    i think they made the right call by swapping the original file with a decoy. if people noticed it was suddenly missing, that would only make opening it a more tantalizing mystery to solve. the decoy did its job well, especially considering that the password wasn't secure in the first place

  • @luketien928
    @luketien928 3 місяці тому

    You, sir, are quite the mystery reporter and serial writer. 😁👍 You forced me to willingly watch through all 4 episodes of your investigation in a single sitting.

  • @metaworld567
    @metaworld567 3 місяці тому

    What did we learn from this? The same thing every single cybersecurity company has ever known since the beginning of time.

  • @lukazsoad
    @lukazsoad 3 місяці тому +1

    Why do I can almost see Jeb faceslaping and going like: "I fucking told them..."? Because I'm pretty sure he's been asked about this file more times than he cared to count...

  • @nonreligionist
    @nonreligionist 3 місяці тому +2

    So they legit swapped it out to make it worth all this craziness. That's a very Mojang thing to do

  • @vCherrykAI16
    @vCherrykAI16 2 місяці тому

    It's exactly what the mojang devs said it was. Both that it was minecraft 1.0, and that it wasn't exciting. At least this served as a lesson to be more secure with passwords!

  • @Technostorm313
    @Technostorm313 3 місяці тому +2

    Yoo thanks for the serie!! This serie is very fascinating, and finding the password was surprising in a beautiful way. You led the trail for people to go and try guess the password and that is very cool!!

  • @Mitsunee_
    @Mitsunee_ 3 місяці тому

    this would've been the perfect video for a password manager sponsor integration. I'm almost upset there wasn't one tbh lol

  • @sylvercritter
    @sylvercritter 3 місяці тому

    video 1: *This has contents too dangerous to show to the world.*
    video 2: probably not
    video 3: definitely not
    video 4: databreach go brrrrr

  • @gt750kr
    @gt750kr 3 місяці тому

    Never underestimate the ability of the internet to waste massive amounts of time and resources solving a completely pointless problem, or creating one.

  • @princessanya6719
    @princessanya6719 3 місяці тому

    Love that we got to be a part of this mystery as it unfolded! Thanks for your dedication Retro!

  • @CallmeCatie
    @CallmeCatie 3 місяці тому +1

    Glad to have a update. Your videos are amazing Retro. Thank you

  • @Punykirby
    @Punykirby 3 місяці тому +1

    its insane how this story went to something only a handful of people remember, to being solved, in only a couple weeks because of the first video

  • @slmille4
    @slmille4 2 місяці тому

    Love how Dinnerbone didn’t want to release the 7z password because it was also a login for an email account, only for a hacker to use that compromised email account to crack the 7z password

  • @wheedler
    @wheedler 3 місяці тому +1

    You know what's easier than using a different password for every site? Dealing with the fallout when one of your accounts gets hacked.

    • @xTerminatorAndy
      @xTerminatorAndy 3 місяці тому

      really? but if one gets hacked, then they all get hacked. hackers share lists of their victims and passwords

    • @agafaba
      @agafaba 3 місяці тому

      The best way is to balance both options. Use the same passwords for most sites where the fallout is low, then use unique passwords for higher risk sites like your bank and email.

    • @xTerminatorAndy
      @xTerminatorAndy 3 місяці тому

      @agafaba I'm sorry that is just plain wrong. Any account that gets compromised is a win and can be used as a beach head for further attacks

    • @agafaba
      @agafaba 3 місяці тому

      @@xTerminatorAndy so you think having people use a unique password for everything is realistic? What I said is a lot more realistic and it would be safer than what I replied to.

    • @xTerminatorAndy
      @xTerminatorAndy 3 місяці тому

      @agafaba of course it's realistic. Use a password manager

  • @MelodyIV
    @MelodyIV 3 місяці тому +23

    boxpig41? really? took that long to crack boxpig41? come on dude

    • @mrShift_0044
      @mrShift_0044 3 місяці тому +7

      The problem lies in the fact that no one really tried, AND it was unknown where to start.

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy 3 місяці тому +5

      @@mrShift_0044 exactly, in hindsight it certainly seems obvious to start a modest brute force effort with a library of words related to the game. It's also very short so bruteforcing from all A to _that_ shouldn't have taken long. Like???? it seems so obvious now

  • @aqua4089
    @aqua4089 2 місяці тому

    It’s fun seeing this build now on the wiki’s version history.

  • @Rekoob
    @Rekoob Місяць тому +1

    box pig 41 is a reference to cube pigs

  • @emiliumax
    @emiliumax 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for not taking a password manager sponsor ship.

  • @MoreInsane96
    @MoreInsane96 3 місяці тому +3

    boxpig might be related to Creepers? Since they were born from a mis-modeled pig

  • @FeRoOOo71
    @FeRoOOo71 3 місяці тому

    dinner bone is mad af after his rant about not all secrets must be discovered looooool

  • @justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
    @justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 3 місяці тому +1

    So it WAS sensitive info at the time of that guy that said it was when he cracked it years ago, but not anymore, just as you theorized.

  • @baconfbi2142
    @baconfbi2142 3 місяці тому

    Some things may seem impossible at first, but sometimes all you need is to approach the problem in a different way. This is a good example that shows that you should never give up.

  • @dark_barrier_hub
    @dark_barrier_hub 3 місяці тому +1

    Box pig must indicate creeper I thought because I heard that Creeper is created during the failure of the pig design also creeper is so boxy... But I don't know what does 41 means in this...

  • @_Originator
    @_Originator 3 місяці тому

    Crazy. They just said that password used to be critical to Mojang in some way...
    This is literally eight lowerkey ASCII-chars with two numerals. It is scary just to
    think that any big company with critical userdata would use that for anything.
    Everybody just thought that the password was secure, a false lead, and in the
    end this may actually have been bruteforceable easily as lower and num are the
    first sets anyone begins with 💀

  • @mungyodance3
    @mungyodance3 3 місяці тому +1

    aww man it would've been fun to have this thumbnail's text be in the bottom right so it'd fit with the others with each having their text in different corners

  • @neologicalgamer3437
    @neologicalgamer3437 3 місяці тому +1

    This series easily deserved a subscription!

  • @wes-y.189
    @wes-y.189 2 місяці тому +1

    On you first iceberg video there is a comment from www.youtube.com/@shoulderoforion115
    That says "Gamemode 4 was real, its just very obscure and existed in a test branch of beta minecraft. Cant remember what version but it was around october 2010. The game mode was called "Frail" and you had a single heart that was replaced with a glass jar texture. It wouldnt have been gamemode 4 in 2010, but Im pretty sure this is what the iceberg is refering to. Ive never seen any videos about this mode but I definitely was given access to it on an early test branch they never added officially. I believe this mode was scrapped for the far more intriguing hardcore mode. Back in those test branch days you had to sign a NDA but Im sure if someone searched hard enough they could find a video of the gamemode."
    (I am the one who told him/her it was from an ARG)
    Sincerely
    W.C.Gordon

  • @TheBendixSA
    @TheBendixSA 3 місяці тому

    This is the definition of the journey being more fun than the destination. really enjoyed this trilogy.

  • @gocharusishvili5689
    @gocharusishvili5689 3 місяці тому +1

    let’s go I can finally play that version and see what was added on this version

  • @arzentvm
    @arzentvm 3 місяці тому +1

    miss the opportunity to advertise lastpass or dashlane

  • @ExploringNew1
    @ExploringNew1 3 місяці тому +1

    Well, that was anticlimactic. At least I can sleep now

  • @metalpachuramon
    @metalpachuramon 3 місяці тому

    Finally I went through all these videos! I mean I have to get back to work, but I just couldn't stop watching haha.
    I mean I agree with Dinnerbone, you're not entitled to know the password and the fact that he gave you a screenshot of the files should've been enough. I agree that the internet knowing the password is a big opsec risk, I guess people on the IT field saw that one coming from the phrasing of Dinnerbone, but for someone to have read in-between lines and gone though the breached passwords is just hammering the point down.
    And yet I couldn't stop myself from watching this last video 🤷

  • @Abbanellie
    @Abbanellie 3 місяці тому

    Hi retrogamimgnow! I've been a fan if your channel for about a year now and I've been hoping you'll do a lore cover of the trail ruins and sniffers? And im looking forward to your coverage of the trial chambers sometime aswell!

  • @smooll_d
    @smooll_d 3 місяці тому +1

    This man is crazy if he thinks I'll use a different password for each of my 758,276 accounts 💀

  • @TheMatthewDMerrill
    @TheMatthewDMerrill 3 місяці тому

    Those saying "don't open something that isn't meant for you to open" are the some of the most annoying people there are

  • @Freelancer.Warzone
    @Freelancer.Warzone 20 днів тому

    Damn this ARG is interesting, but you can't convince me that it ends here

  • @ScratchySoft
    @ScratchySoft 3 місяці тому

    Even if the password wasn't in an existing data breach, it still wasn't particularly secure, and could've been bruteforced by any particularly determined person with a decent computer.