The ONLY Sith More Evil Than Darth Sidious In Star Wars
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"A Man can have everything if he is willing to sacrifice."
Including sacrificing himself, I don't think so. There must be something left of himself to enjoy the sacrifice.
"In the darkness, only ambition will guide you."
*anything
@@wb9884 welp.... They own the franchise now.. anything they do is the official canon now. Like it or not, it is what it is.
I swear a character also said this in an episode of One Punch Man.
“You discern a fraction of reality. Beyond these stars exist other galaxies, other worlds, other beings. I will experience or ignore them as I wish. I will spend eternity becoming everything: a farmer, an artist, a simple man. When the last living thing in the universe finally dies, I will enjoy peace and wait for the cycle to begin again.”
Vitiate
Sounds like the words of an immortal who sees the unneeded thing that is life itself.
Not really evil just unforgiving and uncaring.
This quote from Darth Vitiate really is frightening. Even though Palpatine desired to rule like him, the only difference between them is that Sidious didn't want to rule without anyone he wants to use for his fiendish purposes while Vitiate wants to rule a galaxy without even a single being alive and would simply wait for the next cycle to begin so he could do it all over again. That made me think:if that's what Vitiate really wants, how would he think and feel in case there will never be a next cycle of life to begin leaving him as the only living being around? Is he fine with that? That's a very terrifying thought in my point. 😳
What a lovely man! Vitiate is proof that children are not little angels.
@@moshinrafsanjani7379 ummm pretty sure the DSM would disagree with you.
Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are created. There's an abnormality in psychopathy that leads inevitably to evil and that's the lack of empathy.
@Moshin Rafsanjani I think that’s true about the degree to which evil manifests, but not about the inborn drive we have toward it. For instance, children must be taught to share because they are not naturally inclined to do so. In Vitiate’s case, though, I am sure that having an abusive parent was probably a strong contributor to his sociopathic mindset.
“Tenebrae, who would become Sidious” I thought Tenebrae became Vitiate.
Correct, my mistake.
Ty I was confused
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What Vitiate did to Nethema proves how evil he was, his most loyal subject left him after seeing his destruction from it.
Someone told me Vitiate is the Morgoth to Sidious' Sauron. Now I see why
That's pretty apt. I wonder what Lucas would say. "No for the last time the Trade Federation is not Japanese!"---come on Lucas, it's right on the surface.
One much more powerful but the other equally as dangerous to a normal person even though less powerful as a whole
I mean…a 50 cal rifle is much stronger than a 9mm pistol but the 9mm can kill ya just as easily
Nice to see someone making a comparison between these 2 awesome movie series/book series. Sauron, as well as Sidious, mostly used deception and shapeshifting, respectively force mask, until they lost it/got face-electrocuted:). Morgoth and Vitiate although more powerful, never had vision, relying on brute force most of the times.
Naa sidious literally manipulated the whole galaxy. Valkorion sure lasted a thousand years and did many things but not to the scale of sidious who went by the presona of a fragile old man to the public, Sidious is just pure evil
3:53 "Starting at the beginning. Tenebrae, who would become Sidious"
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You make an excellent point about Vitiate. The fact that he was willing to kill everyone in the entire galaxy whereas Sidious would not is enough proof as to why Vitiate was the more evil sith
Sidious tho is sadistic, that's why I think he's worse. Vitiate just wants to kill everyone in the galaxy (which is also fucked) but not as bad as not ruling over the dead just to toy with whose left.
@@bloodocean8389 The thing is though, there was nothing Sidious could do to destroy the aspect of hope. And so long as that existed he would always face rebellion and potential defeat. Vitiate on the other was going to destroy that hope by killing literally everyone who exists.
@@tommoore2012 I see your point. But I still think Sidious is worse in my opinion because instead of killing everyone, he wanted to give people a fate worse than death. I agree on when you said how Vitiate is worse by trying to destroy hope itself and that idea does sound truly more horrifying than Palpatine wanting to rule the galaxy. But to me, Palpatine is more evil because of how sadistic he actually is, while he just uses everyone around him for his own gain, political scemes, outsmarting the jedi order, then having most of them killed so when he rules the galaxy, he'll have more lives to play with at his disposal. Vitiate killing everyone would mean EVERYONE. I think including the sith as well if I'm not mistaken (if I am please say so)
Honestly? To me Viaiate seems to just be insane. Palpatine had a goal, a plan, and a willingness to get the job done. The lust for power and dominance Sidius had was undeniably evil. But Vitiate becoming a literal god of death to the whole universe? That's not evil it's just madness.
Why is that madness? :) His goal is just greater and has even more meaning than Sidious according to me. Sidious dream was just to win over Jedi and make a meaningless empire which he lost. Vitiate see through this bullshit "jedi" and "sith" etc. This two sided madness majority of humans are filled with as "Good" & "Bad/Evil". Vitiate wants to become so powerful to travel across universe to other galaxies and going beyond what other belief in. Vitiate philosophy was loving life, thus he wanted immortality. Vitiate is more sane than all other sith or jedi leaders, he see through this materialistic, emotional weakness an moral compass bullshit, he wants to become God, no matter what. There are people on this earth doing the same, it is not always blue skies. You think European leaders and colonialists who genocide several races and civilisations during the last 400-500 years gave a fuck about madness etc to achieve their goals?
@@Judeschwein88 The fact he even desires to become a god is, in and of itself, madness and insanity. He didn't "See through the Jedi and Sith Bullshit" he just straight up drove off the deep end. And he specifically wanted to become Death Incarnate rather than just have infinite power to travel the universe. Seeking Omnicide is also complete madness. Valcorian was simply out of his mind and a danger to everything that had the misfortune of existing at the same time as him. In all of the Expanded Universe lore this was only one of three times the Jedi and Sith orders would unite with the same goal. Abaloth was another so Valcorian would be an equal threat as it. His actions go so far beyond the spectrum of good and evil to the point where it defies any form of logic, reason, or explanation. And that, by definition, is Madness.
Just don't call her crazy...😏
@@thomashall6288 Coo-coo.......hey, wait, woah. You better not hit me with that truck!
Vitiate makes ruthlessness in pursuit of power almost to a mockery of itself. He ended up trying to destroy everything rather than rule anything. Very paranoid and cowardly in an odd way.
Ruling for the sake of just wanting to rule is evil but not on the level of destroying all life in the galaxy that's next level evil.
I wanna see Willem Dafoe cast as Lord Vitiate with Keanu Reeves as Revan and Michael Rosenbaum as Malik.
That would be absolutly phenomanal!!
I'd see Jeremy Irons as Vitiate
John Malkovich or Frank Langella as Vitiate. I second Keanu for Revan.
i think it would've been important to mention that Lord Scourge ( who joins the Jedi Knight character in SWTOR ) was the Emperor's Wrath and served vitiate for over 300 years from what you learn in SWTOR, Lord Scourge was basically the Emperor's second hand/second in command just underneath himself
True. Sidious revels in others' pain almost in a manic glee.
I'd almost say that Sidious was more evil because he took true pleasure in the death and torture he instilled. The fear and pain of others fueled his ego.
Vitiate simply used death as his fuel for immortality. If it were more efficient to simply siphon his power over time, he'd have done that instead. He felt nothing about the pain he caused, and subsequently the death he caused.
Someone that feels emotions like pleasure can be redeemed.. someone that feels absolutely nothing is far more dangerous because there's no limit to what they will do or to whom
@@danielsuarez3198 EXACTLY
Guy tortured his mum for bants
He took pleasure from the death and torture of his enemies. I’m sure he didn’t really care if others were or weren’t tho. There is a huge difference between your enemies suffering or just everyone. They’re both sadistic but there is a huge difference in the degree of evil. Sidious had a vision of how the galaxy should be ruled and at least improved the quality of life for certain groups of people (sure others suffered too, but I’m not making the case for Palpatine being a good person by any stretch of the imagination). Viciate had a complete disregard for the lives of the ENTIRE GALAXY just to gain even more power. To have such a disregard for life on that level and to leave an entire galaxy be void of all life and every planet stripped of the force is evil on a level I’ve never heard of before. Palpatine was responsible for the death of billions of people, but he at least had a goal In mind of having a stable and peaceful galaxy where the people can prosper in ways the republic couldn’t offer. He wanted to change things for his own ego and for everyone to recognize his excellence which is all the wrong reasons to want to change things and during the reign of the empire, many people did suffer, but in a lot of ways the empire had some benefits compared to the republic.
How anyone can honestly think that Sidious is more evil than Viciate is beyond me. Sidious takes pleasure in torturing his enemies is more evil than killing the life force of the ENTIRE GALAXY? Both are selfish and egotistical, but Viciate makes Palpatine look like a saint in comparison
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“ violence I understand, destruction I understand, but what I felt on nathema was just an abomination” - lord scourge in reference to darth vitiate, he was a supporter of vitiate but upon stepping onto the surface of nathema, immediately turned against him and wanted him dead
Darth Vitiate tortured his own daughter. Compare how Darth Sidious almost seemed to care about Darth Vader, at least when he was defeated by Kenobi on Mustafar.
Sidious only cared about losing Darth Vader to the extent where he needed Vader to help him rule the galaxy.
@@bloodocean8389 Yes, that is true. And he certainly did torture Darth Vader, for example with the ill-fitting suit.
@@user-vy5fc3ho2y Yeah. The suit was uncomfortable, his hands could crush anything if he's not careful, and it was made so that it's weak to electricity so that if Vader ever betrays Palpatine, Palpatine can shock him
Vitiate makes Sidious look like a Jar-Jar Binks before everyone knew how powerful he was
A Tom Hiddleston as young Sheev Palpatine???... "I said KNEEEEEEEEEELL"
The Darth Vitiate cycle is my favorite Star Wars story that I got to play. Especially as a light side Knight.
"You don't have to stand, you can kneel".
Understanding the need for a STRONG antagonist and interesting enough characters for a good story - I think that Viciate and the Eternal Empire would be a VERY very interesting tv series or series of movies. I wonder if anyone can or would be williing to move away from the Skywaker lineage and Palpatine/Sideous? I think the dynamic played out between the brothers would be a very interesting story too. Simply put, I think there's more than enough intrigue and depth. It would be AWESOME!! :D
When I think of Vitiate, I instantly think of the Sith Triumvirate combined into one person. Kreia wanted the death of the force, Nihilus had to consume everything, and Sion was able to live forever. I don't know if that was intended before scrapping the third KOTOR for the MMO, but it is a nice touch if it was.
Sidious - wanted to be perceived as a god
Vitiate - wanted to be a god
Well one of them is certainly more crazy than the other 🤣
Abeloth - essentially achieved both
@@jakealter5504 na she just wants family and Love.
Sidious: Ha look how powerful I am now praise me and become my slave
Viaiate: Nigga you won't even notice what kill you
Sidious and Vitiate were both evil AF. Everyone who walks the path of the Sith long enough becomes evil, its practically part of their code to be Arse holes. But Vitiate was WAY more dangerous. Anyone who's so power hungry that they make the Sith AND the Jedi set aside their differences and team up is automatically a Galactic Menace.
What would your name be if you were a Sith Lord?
My name would be Darth Hideous!
👹............................💃Eeeeeek!!!
Abeloth is sitting over in the Maw, picking her teeth and laughing her ass off at the preschoolers smack fighting in the playground. None of them come close to her, period.
I'd love to see prime vitaite face abeloth as both are beings that are unbelievably powerful
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You consistently make super interesting and thouroughly well done videos. Thank you!! :D
WHAT
Vitiate is like a combination of Palpatine and Darth Nihilus.
The thing is, Palpatine doesn’t actually care about making the galaxy a safe place. Framing his goals in that way is merely a means to an end to win the loyalty of his followers. However, in truth, Palpatine/Sidious only cares about obtaining all the power in existence and ruling over every universe, and if he should somehow fail to do so, he would have the universe destroyed if possible. In that sense, Palpatine is at least as evil as Vitiate; there is nothing that Vitiate did that Sidious would not be willing to do.
While Vitiate simply wanted to wipe out all life in the universe, Sidious wanted to control it for all eternity, forcing those beings to live and suffer eternally under his undying rule - a fate that I’m sure most would consider to be far worse than the death that Vitiate had planned. As we saw in Rebels, Emperor Palpatine’s ultimate goal is to become a god with absolute power over time, space, and the universe itself. If he succeeded in this goal, then all inhabitants of the universe - past, present and future - would have to endure fates worse than death forever. While Vitiate simply wanted to command death, Sidious wanted to command so much more (death, life, time, space, and even reality itself).
That is why I consider Darth Sidious, *_”The One True Emperor”,_* to be at least as evil, if not more so, than the previous Sith Emperor, Vitiate.
Nope
Wanting to rule over everything eternally isn’t as evil as wanting to not only wipe out all living things but become immortal and repeat the cycle again which is what Vitiate wanted to do as is the line “When the last living thing in the universe finally dies, I will enjoy peace and wait for the cycle to begin again.” from him.
@UCEWw_daRgibvX-YUmbz57dQ As I said, Sidious doesn’t simply want to rule, he wants to make everyone else under him suffer. Sidious was an amoral psychopath and sadist. Do you honestly think that the inhabitants of the universe living under his rule would be living happy, peaceful lives? Sidious wants everyone to be in constant fear of him, and will ensure that they are constantly and painfully reminded of that fact every single day forever. Most people would rather die than live under that eternal torment, but the point is that even killing yourself wouldn’t matter as Sidious (who would be a god in control of the universe via the World Between Worlds in this hypothetical situation where he succeeded in his plans) could simply bring you back to life again to suffer eternally. Emperor Palpatine even did this to the original designer of the Death Star, killing him in increasingly gruesome ways and bringing him back to life over and over again.
Palpatine is a joke just as its actor
You can't argue canon palpatine for a legends debate.
You gotta stick to the universe you are arguing in.
@@kiyanhakim384 It doesn’t matter whether you’re considering canon Sidious or legends Sidious. His goals are the same in both versions, and thus so is his evil. He’s still arguably more evil than Vitiate in both instances.
03:55....become Vitiate, not Sidious
Thumbnail: Not Valkorian
Video: Valkorian
“The Emperor’s name was Tenebrae... They say he was born with eyes as black as the void of empty space, and that he never cried, even as an infant. No animal would come near him, and when he began to talk, his voice carried a weight and power that should not come from a child."
_Revan_
Sidious was born a psychopath, and becoming a Sith amplified his most evil traits.
Vitiate, however, was born already as an abomination, a creature whose soul seemed to have spawned from the Dark Side itself.
I would say anyone who could make the great Darth Revan bend to his will is deserving of the title Emperor and worthy of ruling in whatever way they wish.
Destroying everything is not ruling anything.
@@trentw.3566 of course it is, just from a certain point of view; if you're too weak to survive then you're not worthy to.
@@BuddhaMelffyQueen it's actually a point of logic and nothing to do with perspective. If you destroy all that you rule, you end up ruling nothing, not any thing.
@@trentw.3566 again if you're to weak to survive you don't deserve to.
That's the whole point.
This is why the ancient Sith see Sidious as weak, he's unwilling to destroy the weak and unworthy.
@@BuddhaMelffyQueen It is a type of weakness to devour one's own species and end up bragging to oneself about ruling an empty universe.
This is highly debatable. Sidious may seem better looking at it one way, but he was highly sadistic, often torturing people purely because that was entertainment to him. I have to disagree with this one, because Vitiate wanted power and simply didn't care about other people. Sidious actively enjoyed watching others suffer, sometimes even laughing while causing it. I think the enjoyment of horrible things is worse than the lack of caring about them. Both characters are terrible people, but Sidious was a complete monster, deliberately going to extreme lengths just to cause pain and misery. There's even a story where he tortured a man to death, brought him back Plagueis-style, and repeated the process over and over. That's one of the most evil things any character has done, arguably the worst thing in any franchise.
to be fair, the guy he tortured was the architect of the first death star ... the one with the giant flaw that allowed one ship to destroy it.
No. Sidious do bad things because he was getting pleasure from it, in that case everyone would be evil like sidious if they get pleasure from that. Valkorian did that just because he can
I learned some things I didn't know with this one
Don't forget about Darth Krayt as well. In terms of evil, I believe he's also up there with Vitiate and Sidious. In terms of power, Vitiate is the most powerful, Sidious the second most powerful, and Krayt is the third most powerful.
What did Vitiate do outside of immortality better than Sidious? Had 8,000 Sith start a ritual for him that he just hijacked at the right moment? Sidious mastered every single dark side ability known (outside of true immortality) and mastered all 7 forms. You have to take Sidious’s EU feats considering all of Vitiate’s are legends as well. Vitiate sat around for 1,000 years and failed to conquer the entire galaxy once, Sidious did it in like 50-60 years without an entire army of Sith following him.
Darth Krayt would be beat Vitiate and possibly Sidious if everything played out correctly, although if he made one mistake, then Sidious would kill him. Darth Krayt was a WAY better duelist than both of them and had enough force power to challenge them. He had ragdolled Cade Skywalker with a flick of his finger who was Jedi Council level, as he was killing Sith left and right. Krayt also was the first ever to use essence transfer in the same body he had just died in. Although, he is not as evil as both of them, since he wasn't born a psychopath like the both of them. He still had traits from the Tusken Raider culture he grew up in.
@@CommanderOfRussia1 Darth Sidious had mastered all forms earlier in his life, but he became quite an awful duelist years later compared to other SIth Lords and Jedi Masters. The dangerous thing about him was that he used his force to augment his speed to a very fast level, which was combined with his immense amount of force power. You can see how low his performance in episode 3's fight, since Kit Fisto was able to block multiple of his attacks despite having a slow lightsaber form thats VERY weak against Sidious's Juyo. He shouldn't had been able to block it, but he was able to predict Sidious easily.
@@BeowuIfs In EU Sidious did jump bodies though, and before his raw dark side power corrupted the body he was in he was an absolute unit. He also kinda got so OP he didn’t really need lightsabers lol. Krayt is very powerful too don’t get me wrong, Top 5 imo, but Sidious is on another level. Krayt probably falls 4th for me personally, behind Sidious, Vitiate, and Exar.
I guess it depends on what you consider more evil: The fact that Palpatine still feels human and revels in the pain and suffering he causes, or the fact that there was nothing human about Vititate and the pain and suffering he caused was beneath his notice.
Just curious if anyone knows where the outro music is from. I've heard it on a movie but i cant remember what movie its from and its bugging the shit out of me
Basically Sidious is lawful evil and Vitiate is chaotic evil
Sidious was like Littlefinger from Game of Thrones and Vitiate was Tywin, but psychopathic versions of them. Although, Vitiate was not as evil as Sidious in this. Vitiate did appreciate life itself quite greatly and opportunities that come with it to the point he had immensely feared death. He also had rarely cared for others like his wife as Valkorion, but Sidious never did that.
Can you make a video on Cult encounters and Supernatural encounters
What is the foreboding song playing during the video when describing Sidious and Vitiate?
5:40 So Vitiate was Morgoth and Sidious was Sauron!
Sidious isn’t as evil as everyone thinks he is. He’s no saint by any means and is the main villain in the sky Walker saga, but Sidious had different political and philosophical views on how the galaxy should be ran and tried to make the people of the galaxy prosper. He caused billions of deaths in his rise to power thru the clone wars, but from his point of view, if all those people had to die in order to Change the galaxy for a better future with a totally reformed galaxy, then he was willing to do it. Yes he was a cold hearted and in many ways evil to a degree, but having different views on how things should be ran isn’t evil. Viciate tho was willing to destroy an entire galaxy just for the sole purpose of making his own being turn into a god which is selfish beyond imaginable. Like in all honesty, if he killed ALL of the life in the galaxy, wtf was he going to do with all that power he accumulated? Every planet would have been turned into a gray dead world like his home world. Viciate is as close to the embodiment of evil as you can get. In all seriousness tho, if Viciate was able to successfully pull off his galactic ritual and turn every place into a dead gray landscape that is completely stopped of the force itself, what would he do with all that power? He killed all the life in the galaxy so nobody can recognize his great power, if he visits any plant he would be just a normal person since he’d strip the planet of the force. What the hell would even be the point in that
You think someone that uses a massive planet killing weapon to kill an entire planets population isn’t evil?
Yeah, Sidious's different political and philosophical views were "It should all be mine regardless of cost." Dude sanctioned the destruction of a planet. He's 100% evil.
Read Wookipedia! Vitiate wanted to be god and leaving to an other galaxy to rule.
@@mikloscsuvar6097 there is another galaxy?
@@jmgonzales7701 Why would not it be there? 1. The Intergalactic Banking Clan (the Muuns) is intergalactic, because they have properties in a satelite galaxy of the star wars galaxy. 2. The Yuuzhan Vong came from a neighbour galaxy. 3. Nothing told in the movies, there was no other galaxy in the universe.
Vitiate is my favorite Star Wars character. I hope one day they do a 6 movie series on his time period.
I feel like Vitiate/Tennebrae/Valkorian was a descendiant of Abeloth like how Plagueis Influenecde the Midi-Chlorians to create what would become Anakin Skywalker, Abeloth while imprisoned in the void by The Father and the 2 children somehow, someway Influeneced the Midi-Chlorians that created Tennebrae
I do agree Vitiate is definitely the most evil between himself and Sidious, though there are plenty of other characters in star wars just as evil.
I would've loved to see Vitiate crumble against the Yuuzhan Vong.
Ooof that picture, a Young Palpatine series starring a blonde Tom Hiddleston... wuff.
I think only Abolyths evil came closer to Darth Vitiate's evil.
Everyone here is "Gatorade," "No H20," "GATORADE."
But you forget after his death, he ordered operation cinder to punish everyone for not protecting him. the Wookieepedia has an unknown amount killed by this operation.
I didnt think it was possible for someone to be more evil than Palpatine. Except the Devil
The thumbnail pic on the right looks like. A lorna shore alboum cover
Hard to say for sure, in terms of actions, I believe Vitiate/Valkorian and all his names did more evil. But given his lifespan, definitely easier to do. That said, I think they are equally depraved. The only difference is method and desire. Palpatine enjoyed things that were evil, so he did them. Valkorian wanted godhood essentially, so he sacrificed others to achieve it. If their desires were swapped I believe they’d probably swap many methods too.
Love how in the thumbnail, the guy on the right looks like Joey Jordison.
I AM THE EVIL
Ok jarjar
Not yet
Myea Vitiat is the more evil but we'll maybe see something even more evil in the Acolyte 😈
Quantifying evil is an exercise in folly. Cruelty, hubris, etc., at this extreme necessitate the rest to assert themselves.
Vitiateibed for more than a thousand years...that's awesome.
As soon as I played the MMO, I was like, "yeah... This sith emperor is way more malevolent than sidious." Also, who else lived for 1300+ years!? He'd probably kill Abeloth.
Palpatine was also extremely prejudice in the extended universe.
He often seemed to have a vision of a human only universe.
I didn't see this factored in.
Why did you say at 3:56 that Tenebrae, who would become Sidious? Didn't Tenebrae become Vitiate? lol
Vitiate is not acknowledged for the power he achieved, and his long life. He really is the ideal of Darth - a truly profound power. But the book where we meet him shows what it cost him. Pain. He sucked a whole planet dry to live thousands of years. But in constant, intense pain. Yet his force powers increased exponentially when he did. It is amazing he was kept from conquering the Republic at the time, but it makes sense that despite this, his main motivation was fear. A strange paradox.
"Tenebrae, who would become Sidious"? I think you meant Vitiate, not Sidious
I would consider Palpatine more evil in this respect: Vitiate was driven by his hunger, Palpatine was driven by his desire to rule over every living thing in the galaxy. This takes alot of patience, cunning, manipulation, sadism, violence...It is so intricate and methodical it is mind boggling.
When the Stupendous Wave says “God hood” he doesn’t mean the strongest sith oh no. He means stronger then all the ones combined. And he almost reached that.
Nihilus?
I think Sidious is more evil that Vitiate. Sidious wanted the galaxy to know that he was all powerful and coursing through his veins was the power to destroy and or enslave their whole planet. In contrast, Vitiate was aiming for nothing less than godhood and to accomplish this he chose to wipe out all life without hesitation or regret. I believe that for Vitiate his goal was simple after using Nathema, "kill one man and you're a murderer, kill a million,a king, kill them all, a god."
Vitiate. He's far more disgusting. Its strange you find two extremely evil men and you choose which one is more evil. But it's Vitiate. May the Force be with you too :) Thanks :)
Sidious given time would have been just as bad as vitiate. Don't forget Vitiate was immortal he had already lived multiple life times by the time of the old republic game.
Well there is a saying "Roads in Hell are paved with good intentions" Look's like Sidius wanted to do good by any means, which make him Evil, but in his mind he was good and just.
Darth Sidious wasn't evil. He only wanted peace.
After the Rise of Skywalker.... How could any Sith be more evil than Palpatine, if Palpatine had become ALL THE SITH?
honestly I would say that Vitiate was more successful than palaptine politically. He ruled in the shadows for over 1000 years and controlled both the sith and republic for a long time.
Comparing the ancient sith to Palpatine is like comparing an ocean world to a drop of water. Palpatine has neither the power or knowledge to compare to the ancient sith in any meaningful way. More knowledge of the darkside was lost then Palpatine will ever know.
3 phases.. Tenebrae gaining ultimate power Vitiate god of death Valkyrian want to rule an eternal empire...I say Tenebrae (phase) and Sidious has more in common imo
Damn, so Vitiate changing names is just an excuse to write inconsistent motivations 😉
Ngl thought that was Joey Jordison in the thumbnail 🤣
If Palpatine's name really was "Sheev" I can understand why he divorced himself from it. But as it wasn't created by GL, I don't ever acknowledge that his REAL name was ever known by ANYONE but those who are dead.
I will say this, you do good videos. As for Vitiate, he was the best. Even if the Force hated him. But Palpatine was flawed, he may have wanted to rule the galaxy, but the majority of the Galaxy didn't want to be ruled. His rule would have resulted in so much death, that people wouldn't have stopped defying him.
*sees thumbnail... Joey Jordison. Of course. Why didn't I think of it
There is a difference between evil and doing what is necessary.
Both tenebrae and exar kun main goals were to become force gods papaltine just wanted to rule the galaxy
Sidious was evil incarnate, he represented everything about lack of empathy and just wanted to rule for the sake of ruling, orderly yes, but for no one's sake. He hated things because he thought there was a way things should be, yes his actions are purely evil but he thought he was justified based on his own inner philosophy....
Vitiate on the other hand was just as evil, but he was absolutely nihilistic and narcissistic at the same time, which makes him more hideous when you truly understand how he acted and thought.
Vitiate said he would absorb the entire galaxy and then move on to another just to be absolutely immortal and then just be a normal man, a lover, a painter, etc, if that level of double standards doesn't bring chills down a person spine I don't know what does. I don't think Vitiate ever tried to justify himself, like ever, except in his origin story (I think i read he hated both his parents for their unfaithfulness etc, to each other and to himself).
Either way saying his origin story justifies his hatred of humanity or his nihilism is a bit of a stretch, but at least as far as villain goes, it's not a paper thin origin story like others in other franchises.
Revan
How could you forget Darth Nihilus the soul eater?
So many aspects to think of. Vitiate seems more going to the way of madness, but Sidious seems to take more pleasure from evil deeds. Sidious needed others for the fear, for the pain, for the suffering, while Vitiate simply did not care. Both ways could leed to the worst kind of evils and I think Vitiate had the power and the will to do the most damage to others. But, Sidious is the more sadistic one of the two, so I would say this is a tie. Both are worst.
Palpatine is a sadistic politician. Vitiate is Thanos. Which you think is worse depends on personal moral philosophy 🤷♀️. It would make an interesting ethics/moral thesis.
Revan wanted to rule because it was necessary
Already palpatine sounds awesome
Well if Vitiate ruled for how long did they say? 1000 years?? Yeah his body count makes Sidious look like a Saint 😂😂
Nah, it'll be fine.
Viaiate is just Carly Rae Jepsen doing Call Me Maybe to the whole universe.
I wasn't looking for this, but you're in my way.
It's hard to look at the galaxy baby,
but here's my number, so call me maybe.
So evil he makes Plagueis look like Luke Skywalker
If we're talking the old republic (which is my cannon idgaf) there's about 100more, more evil sith
As far as being evil it is about even….Sidious is definitely more devious.lol
Lord Vitiate absolutely CRUSHES Lord Sidious in my opinion.
YES, Lord Vitiate would absolutely KNOW that he'd been in the MOST challenging fight of his life, and he wouldn't come out unscathed, but with that being said Lord Vitiate would eventually CRUSH Lord Sidious 100% of the time.
Just my own personal opinion anyway.
I would go so far as to describe Sidious as the Anti-Christ of Star Wars!!!!! (In canon. In Legends, that title goes to Vitiate).
Question stupendous wave why don’t they make a movie from the sith point of view ??
There's definitely more " evil " sith than sidious. Vitiate, addendu, nihilus. To name a few. Nihilus especially because he had no desire to rule and conquer, just feed his insatiable appetite
It is easily Vitiate who is more evil. Palpatine didn't just sacrifice his own people to gain power which is something Vitiate did consistently and that doesn't even begin to mention everything else he did.