Powell Peralta Dragons: G-Bones 64mm Review
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- Опубліковано 28 січ 2023
- I have long been searching for the Cinderella Wheel. As someone who predominantly rides a surfskate, I need a wheel that has enough traction to pump and carve under a lot of torque. But I also love doing skateboard tricks on my surfskate. I am trying to get longer blunt slides, nose slides, tail slides, and a soft longboard or cruiser wheel makes that nearly impossible. The hype around the Dragon formula wheels had me so excited that this could be the wheel that provides the best of all worlds. So watch with me as I review the Powell Peralta Dragon Formula G-Bones from a surfskater perspective to get an idea if this wheel is worth purchasing.
And if you are curious, no I didn't get kicked out of the resort while filming this. I'll have another video coming about the surfing and another video that reviews this hotel as maybe the best find in the world as an all-inclusive resort for surfers.
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Only tried them the once at indoor wooden skatepark with bowl and they’re amazing. Speed and grip was next level, highly recommend
Great vid Mark, really impressed with how well the wheels rolled over the cobble stone sidewalk. Thought for sure they would jam out and hang up everywhere but they rolled right over everything including the dirt trails...amazing! I'm glad you could generate speed too because I'll be buying these to try in the bowl. I also ride the original G-Bone wheels in blue, I use them in the bowls, I like them. Keep Rippin' it Up Mark!
Buying some of these today for my blacktip CX - can’t wait to try
Great review and awesome resort!
Lovely review, the footage is fun to watch and offers great insight in how the wheel performs and feels.
I am a Skateboarder, dont even have a Cruiser Setup, but watching this I kinda want to buy these wheels and throw them onto my street Board with some.risers Just to bomb through the city.
Go buy Bones mini Cubic wheels (64mm 95A). These wheels rolls over everything 😎
I skate these on my bowl board. Just the right amount of grip to climb and stay on the wall, but if you want to slide them you absolutely can.
I have thought about trying them in my surf skate. I have a set of the 60mm dragons and think they will do well.
This came in a right moment as I am searching for fast wheels for bowl. Maybe those will be the answer so I am curious to see your skatepark follow ups review.
Since I got home we have been blessed with endless snow so I am getting my stoke through powsurf and snow skating, but eventually the indoor skatepark will empty my wallet some more.
I absolutely love these wheels for the skatepark. But then, I went from Orange Stimulus to these so I went from 80a and to 93a and the difference should have been a big difference. Maybe I should check out this OJ wheels mentioned above.
Just got them !!! I love them !!!
thanks I was wondering about this topic
Thanks for the very good review!
Thanks for the review. I didn’t know that they have 64mm. These are gonna be great on carver CX! I’m a big fan of CX but mine has been sitting in my garage since I mainly use my popsicle+ace truck+F4wheels for mini ramps and SmoothStar for flat grounds surf training. Can’t wait to try them!
Thinking about getting these for my carver cx trucks
Great review! Love to see you ride these across all that rough terrain. I got a set a couple weeks ago. They are awesome and totally unique. The range of grip slide with the Dragon formula really is amazing. You are gonna love them on transition! I'm considering getting another set in the rat bones shape as I think coming down to 60mm might be even better in faster/steeper bowls.
I did get a set of the Rat Bones versions too. The wider contact patch might help a little in preventing accidental slideouts too.
I got some of the Dragons (54 mm x 34mm) for my traditional setup as a bday present. I’m pleased with the dampening in my driveway, as compared to 99 du. On the street, however, I found the difference to be much less pronounced. Glad you could escape the cold for a bit ✌️
I got a pair of the Rat Bones too so interested to see how those work with the wider contact patch
@@MarktheLandlockedSurferHi Mark, What is your feedback with the Rat Bones 90a for Park and bowl please ?
@@MrConfo I loved them on the slick indoor pure surface. They feel a little stickier on concrete where I think I like the dragon formula better
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Thanks Mark, i'm gonna test Rat Bones soon on very clean external concrete, let's see. EDIT : tested one session, they're quiet, improve speed, are grippy enough, but the feeling is closer to traditional skating wheels, which gives me less surf feeling with them. Much better than Carver park wheels for my taste, but maybe too small regarding my habits in 70mm. Same shape in 65mm may suit me better ?
Rat bones in 90a have so far been my favourite for skatepark use.. interested in trying these though! I feel like rat bones have got a good balance between speed and grip
I have eyeballed them for years, but haven’t meet anyone skating them. I’m not a Bones 🦴 believer. To old school for me. You know spitfire or Bones things. But the Bones Rough Riders 60mm 80a hard inner core and soft outer core, brilliant love them. But from what 77a to 101a+. split that in the middle and you have 89a so 88a-90a. Surfskating is settled somewhere between longboard cruiser skateboard thing. Make sense to ride 88a or 90a. Jesus Christ. Have to smuggle that in my wife not knowing, she absolutely don’t like my quiver of surfboard and skateboards.
Rat Bones are Powell Peralta also, not Bones. The oringinals at 90a are an excellent mix of grip and slide for skatepark use. A lot of my instagram clips using the Curfboard trucks I am using them.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Powell Peralta owns 🤝 Bones. I will argue that they are same same but different.
@@Quickrex Ahhh I see, that makes sense
Yeah i vaguely thought pp and bones were synonomous... ive seen you can get the rat bones shape (60x40mm) in dragon formula 93a? They just dont seem to exist in australia.
Just woundering have you tried the Bones rough riders? And if so what was your opinion?
Great review, looking forward to an update in the spring after park skating. Error in your graphics, 42mm contact patch. The wheels are 36mm wide.
It was an error, good catch. The package said 64x42mm and I just quickly went off that, but you are right, that is the total width, not the contact patch.
I just measured myself and the width is 36mm, the label on the package is just completely wrong
That’s where the number came from. Stacy’s fault. Can’t blame George! 🏄♂️🛹
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I´m surprised how they could mess that up on the new packaging :D
The original G-Bones actually have a 42mm contact patch though.
Your review is spot on btw, nice one!!
Nice to see a review of them finally, they were on the Radar. I have the 56mm street wheels. Uummhh strange wheels. I took them to the skatepark and they felt so slow on concrete, they felt even more stickier than my 88A Seismic Crybabies and weirdly felt hard on Rough ground. In my opinion they are for street skating to the skatepark and then you change into hard wheels . My opinion, for a nice surfskate feel Oj team riders 61mm 95a or 57mm 95a Nomads do a much better job of being predictable and fast. I have some hard rock Bones 🦴 62mm skatepark formulas like 103a and they are really not much faster then Oj. I was disappointed with the dragons 🐉 didn’t bother to break them in. My bowl setup are Carver C5 Oj team riders. I know sounds like a fanboy but they keep this acceptable feel for surfskating on hard slippery concrete but still feels somewhat soft on rough ground.
I would love to see a comparison video between the Powell Peraltas and the OJ.
I thought I new all the sub-97a, plus 58mm wheels but wasn't aware of those OJs. Will check them out.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer NHS brand are developing a new wheel formula with a inner core of 95a and outer core of 101a in the Oj elite formula . In theory like a suspension systems. Hopefully they will make something softer in the future. The elite formula feels nice under the feet, different from bones plastic feel. Similar to the spitfire 99a or maybe even more like the 97a haven’t tried them. But they just feel so much more buttery, exactly what you want when surfskating. I was surprised how much I can pump and carve before they start sliding out. I used to be on Otangs, I have most of them, nice quality urethane but still to soft for my liking. I skate to improve my surfing and while the soft wheels feel nice and gives rebound but they just get to sticky on concrete, especially in the bowl. I think I mentioned the Seismic Crybabies before in a comment section. I have the old version 60mm 88a and that is really a all round wheel for everything, wide and stable and nice rebound. But again all about preference. I would say what do you want, business in the front or party in back or maybe both. If you just want to party and cruise and don’t want to be speedy, soft big wheels is the answer. You want performance and speed go hard and small. My problem and why I steered away from 84a and under is that they are to sticky and grippy on concrete. I heard some good things about the 60MM LIL' EZ HAWGS as well but 78a pillow soft. But apparently they are spitting them out of the factory. But I found out that you easily get confused about wheels because they are made by longboard companies in soft urethane and hard urethane by regular TKP skateboard companies. My experience is that softer wheels, marketing and sold as slid wheels actually don’t slide at all that much. Yes downhill and fast they do to perfection. I’m surprised that YOW and Carver makes so shitty wheels and everybody is changing them out. Smoothstar guess okay but really a surf trainer but works good in the bowl, I must admit. But the company is one the wrong planet to the point of being arrogant and stupid, no feel for customers.
They forgot to patent their truck system. Now they made a new truck to fix the wheelbase offset and they sell the original for 110 bucks, buy the one on Amazon 25 bucks some thing no different. I’m harsh but fair they need to up their game no patience for marketing BS!!!. In general the surfskate companies need rethinking in deck design, no we have to make it look like a surfboard meaning flat and maybe a swallow tail, even on surfboards it’s perhaps a little overrated in terms of performance but a fish have to look like a fish. I’m finished getting rambling here.
Heey bro, just binge watched your whole wheel review playlist. Great reviews TBH. Two questions, my man, if I may.
How you got your Cx's bushings set up? Your blactip seems really fun. And second, as a local mexican surfskater I'm USED to these sh**y roads: wich wheels you wish you had brought with you to tame the pavement?
I'm currently on 78a 4pres LOVE them but I'd like to roll a bit faster and more aggressive.
Thanks m8, cheers!
Best I have found for me is the blue 85a riptide bushings up front as I like the front truck loose and flowy. I'm less picky about rear truck, but like a little more rebound there.
If I could I might go with the 65mm 81a surfskate love wheels for those rough streets, they are a good balance between rolling fast but still having some forgiveness on the rough patches.
Whats the softer version ??
I just mounted Rat Bones in 85a on CX trucks as my intention for a one fits all transition. I have tried the carver park wheels 90a before for indoor park session and personally found them too hard. Other promising wheels I was thinking about are orangatang fat free yellow 86a. Thanks for opinions.
I have the yellow fat frees, I like them, but one thing I never got used to is that they are whisper quiet when they slide, it feels like something is missing when you lay out a huge bertslide or something and there is no sound. But they do perform well.
The 58mm 87a OJ Plain Jane is a great skatepark all-around wheel, especially for my Santa Cruz park board with C5's; its a go anywhere board. I stick with 65mm + wheels on my Carver Resin CX however. (flats and ditches).
This video had me searching the Powell-Peralta site after my initial reply and I see that “Coming Soon” is a new, blue, 66mm x 82a Snakes wheel Im definitely going to buy for my CX board.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer 🤣🤣 I got your point... Never thought about the sound 🤣🤙
@@PauloBerni699 Thanks for your ideas! So far I love riding the old yow S5 system with the blue 66mm 81a?? wheels for flat and loose cruising... I am not sure if the usual carvers aren't quite same. What do you think that snakes or others would make a difference (I never tried...)?
Thank you for the reviews. How would you compare these to waterborne’s living water wheels? If you’ve tried them?
Way different. These are faster but a lot more slick. Living Water have more grip and accelerate quicker but have a lower top speed with the smaller size and softer urethane.
These wheels looks really fit on you
Hey Mark. Came back to this vid as I am on a hunt for fast wheel for a bowl riding. Do you think those will work with a smoothstar? Another thing is that my main skatepark has a supper slippery concrete almost like glass and all of my wheels are sliding without any effort, so I am worried that those will be to hard to control in that application. From other hand I am looking for something fast...
My indoor park is very slippery with a gatorskin surface. The wheels roll fast for riding around but they do feel a little too icy when throwing a snap or bertslide, or if you have to pump in between transition. With more practice it would be feasible to calibrate I think. I just loaded up the 60mm rat bones version but haven't tested them out yet. They have a wider contact patch so may have a little more traction.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer yep I do not really like those icy slides. I may give them a go….
Great review and I am jealous how much surfskate time you are getting in on vacay! Do you take your board in hand luggage? My brothers YOW got lost with his luggage 😱 I have the rat bones and they are great for the park but really noisy on rough roads so I prefer my Orangatang fat free’s for daily commuting. These dragons 🐉 sound really interesting as they should be less noisy.
The other times I brought my board carry on but this airline seemed really strict about the size limits so I put it in my checked bag. The black tip was the biggest deck I could fit so no whaleshark this time.
Are they offset or centre set? How far do they stick out past the axle?
Thanks
They are slightly offset and the axle of my C7s actually sticks slightly past the edge of the wheels
Just curious, how were the 64mm in the bowl/ park transition. Was there a speed gain compared to the 60mm dragons? Thanks 🤙
I never really compared them back to back, but I wouldn’t say they were noticeably faster than the 60mm versions, but they were definitely more prone to sliding out.
Try the new 64mm 97A wheels in Outdoor Skateparks. On concrete they are faster and more controllable with Surfskates.
@@HolzmannMediaCool thanks👍
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I am wondering to buy it. I didn't get it. Which one tend to slide out 60mm or 64?
Do you feel you can pump more easily with them on a rougher terrain? Thinking about sh*tty Berlin sidewalks 😅
They handle the rougher terrain well for a firmer wheel but I found they slid out a little too easily for pumping.
I have a question. Is it a rounded lip, beveled, or square? Is the core offset, center, or side?
Outer lip is rounded and the inner lip is sort of between beveled and rounded. It has an offset core.
I am very satisfied with my 97a g bones but is the 93a dragon formula any faster than the sba formula? Not sure if it’s worth the upgrade, thanks
Not sure about faster, if so, not a huge difference, but they don't slide out quite as easily. I found the 97a version pretty skittish in the spray paint covered park.
Ok thanks for the insight! I personally like the easy barky slide of the 97a and will stick with them and save the $50
The G-Bones 64mm 97A are slower than the Dragons 64mm 93A in my concrete bowl.
I just bought some for my C7 did you remove the risers?
I use qwiktruks, they are a little shorter than the 2 stack Carver risers. Might be a little tight with nothing.
5:39...Hope you pay your partner danger money! Can I ask how are you rating that deck - Black Tip ? and the Carver hype spoon shape in general compared to other decks. I'm enjoying going through your content...Cheers
I have no idea how she didn't flinch. Actually I do, she was in the pool sipping margaritas before this. I love the concave on the Black Tip and the size and wheelbase works well for me. I couldn't quite fit the Whitetail Whaleshark deck into a suitcase and this one just made it. I wish the tail was a tad wider and the nose a bit longer and less pointy, but I think it is the best stock Carver deck that I have tried.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Well I'm glad no one was hurt...I did notice in the retake she was standing a little further back! Thanks for the feedback...I'm looking to swap from my SS Mantaray to a Carver...maybe the Kai Lenny which looks to be a bit a touch longer and wider, with reasonable concave. Unfortunately only Smooth Stars are stocked in my town so hard to gage....thanks again.
How do think Dragons might feel on a Yow Meraki?
I feel like the deeper lean of the YOW might make them more prone to sliding out, but, if riding bowls and transition where you aren't surfskate pumping that much they might be great.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer thanks, Mark, hmm, sounds like the 65mm 82A S.L. might be a safer bet.
@@ValverdeLeov Those might be my favourite all-around wheel that can do everything pretty well
urgh powell came for my wallet so hard i have to get every variation of these have trick and rat bones next are these...
impressive surf skating btw
Totally same here man Surfskate / also skate addicted drive style and das riding the ratbones , but not that happy with them 🤪🤙🏼
What you think about the PP G-bones was thinking of getting them think they're nearly the same like the Dragon's ? better to get for me here in Germany
Thx and keep up the good work 😉🤜🏽🤛🏽
Do you mean the 97a ones? I have a set but they are pretty icy. I slipped out bad one time in the bowl. Fast though.
You can see them in use here: ua-cam.com/video/L16bHHqRxbI/v-deo.html
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer ouch yeah I know that 🙈🤪🤙🏼
Lucky I ordered your dragons 64mm in green 😉😍🙌🏽
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer great will check it 😍🤜🏽🤛🏽
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer yes works like I thought great trick 😉🤙🏼
Cool man and his exhausted wife .LOL
i hope you are nice to that poor lady running around trying to film you. it looks like its always to fast to walk but not enough to run lol
She got an all expenses paid week's vacation in Mexico, I got $8.44 in UA-cam ad revenue. Pretty good deal 😆
Why are you reviewing a wheel designed to slide if you dont slide? You have the exact wrong wheel.
@@LarsLarsen77 Why do you think I don't slide?
I absolutely hate the term "surf skate". It's an oxymoron. It's as bad as "democratic socialist" wich is just communism. While you can skate like a surfer, you cannot surf like a skater.
I mean that's what you're doing, is skating like a surfer. Not like we're calling surfing 'skatesurfing' lol
...Unless...brb, inventing the skatesurf board!
@@foot2theballs 🤷🏼♂️