Why Democratic Governments Were Toppled in Pakistan? | Ep 01 | The Fight for Democracy
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2023
- From General Ayub Khan to General Pervez Musharraf, democracy in Pakistan has a history of suffering at the hands of military rulers. Episode 01 of 'The Fight for Democracy' sheds light on the challenges Pakistan's political setup had to face in its lifetime.
TCM presents ‘The Fight for Democracy’, a documentary series exploring the turbulent history of civil-military relations in Pakistan, the electables' phenomenon, and how geopolitics enabled military rule in Pakistan. The aim is to offer insight into possible reforms to enable the fight for democracy in its truest sense.
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The most important trait of an army is discipline. Discipline means obeying orders of elected representatives. If an army doesn't obey to an elected leader....it is no more called as Army.....it becomes a " mercenary "
Mercenaries of their American bosses
This is not Pakistani issue, its a Islamic problem , Not sure what is the issue everywhere Islam is in majority this problem exists
@@WaheedKhan-bq3sl😂true
@@vkp6360 Stop talking bullshit, just look at America. If you ever read American constitution,they have 3 branches,which has check and balances ok each other. Whereas Pakistan civilian imposed first martial law. Which made army confident. Pakistan has parliamentary system. Which is the problem,In this system Parliament is Executive and Legislative at the same time. Which gives army upper do whatever the fuck they want. In America president is the army chief.
pakistani people still unaware that real problem is establishment and people ignorance
Its only our filthy Army, not whole establishment.
It will get better when we give them to wear queer dresses as their uniform and make them only to dance for people as their main job.
Not establishment but Islam
@@jitendratiwari6886bro etna b root cause ki trf mt jayn 😂 hazam ni hota etna sach awam sy
@quetta870
😂
@@jitendratiwari6886 lol Islam is the reason that shit*ole region of Bharat became superpower known as Hindustan and Mughal Empire. An ignorant jobless idol worshipper working for BJP media cell doesn't have enough mental capacity to comment on religious topics.
It is amazing that since the inspection of Pakistan, the mindset of the establishment is the same & they think that THEY are the savior while infact they destroyed the country.
Yes, the same diary conspiracy again
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Bro I'm pretty sure everybody absolutely hates the military now. Except army brats who are arrogant spoiled cunts.
Pakistan is doomed to collapse...your country was established on the base of religion so it was meant to fall....you guys threw all the good minds like your famous scientist Abdus salam...you guys never cared about Baluchi people,non muslims....and your people are not united...they dont have the guts to stand againts the military....if you guys stood againts the military they wont dare to intervene anymore....
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
It strikes me as odd that not a single prime minister has completed a full term in office since 1947.
Only country in the world where pseudo democracy exists and to have this dubious record, Embarassing to say the least.
More were removed by presidents and political wrangling than military
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
because they were not elected prime ministers... but imposed by Governor General of Pakistan.. no elections till 1958 ... why ??
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
Pakistan was always meant to be a British military outpost in the region. Now, leased to the U.S.
Even US kicked out Pak now
Indian reunification is the only way for real progress in South Asia…. Justice Katju’s views on Indian reunification may seem radical now but will manifest themselves….. We the 90s and 2000s generations will live to see a united subcontinent…..
Thanks...for having sensibility to understand british motive for creating pakistan and why pakistan is a military state forever.
India do not want 240 million Islamist extremist on their country.
@@BadAss_691
You are from India and you are right. However the Muslims will have no place in United India. Hinduism is extremely intolerant. It finished Budhism and many others from indian soil, they are finishing Muslims in India and and the United India is not going to be an exception.
Countries have army but in Pakistan the army has a country
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
Rattu tota
Ep1 is good. Hoping this saga will bring true case of pakistani democracy dying into the hands of dictators till date
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Lieutenant Gen R is speaking in a manner which has to be changed.... Their mindset has to be managed and controlled from their training stages
In ka ye mindset training mai he tayar keya jata hai
@@WiseTv2019 exactly, issi liye to kaha h k training stages ei se mindset badalna h or pro democracy dimagh banana paren gy
Yeh loag zameen pay khuda banay huay hain.
@ibrarahmed2018 yeah tarbeat ingraze ki dee howi hy! Danday ky zoor pr awam ko ghulam jeasy rakho.
Kionke ye taaqat ke nashe mein choor hein.
“humne bhutto sab ko kaha hum apko nikal diye gay” idhr he pakistan ki democracy ka janaza uth gia tha.
Pak Foj = Pak Bhoj
We want establishment free Pakistan, we want democracy, not hybrid regimes.
Pakistan Zindabad 🇵🇰
Establishment Murdabad 🪖
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Pakistan only need khilafat!!!!!
Extremely stupid
Pskistan Army Establishment'MURDA BAD'
Black Vigo will never leave that position now because the majority of the business in Pakistan are done by the Pak boj😂
thank you to the few elites for throwing a massive country down the drain....warmest respects for army, politicians, bureaucracy, and judiciary....
Elites come from Pak Army, and political class who have put the Pakistan and its people in this situation and Media has no power against them.
One small point: army controls the other three institutions in the country.
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
The smugness on this Lt. Gen Chishti, I’m 37 now, my whole life I have seen men like him rationalize an indefensible position with impunity.
This man has had no real achievement in his life other than march parading, and thinks he has the sophistication to handle a political mishmash.
Ridiculous how this Pakistani man lacks humility despite being humbled on the battlefield a number of times by the enemy.
The audacity is eerie!
Hum fauj ki wajah se bahut peeche reh gaye hain..... India hum se bahut agey nikal giya hai
this is what the pasktiani youth really need to watch ! good job
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
The hate for army is increasing rapidly in young Youth after watching and observing all these dictatorship and establishment games
12minute video bohat kam hay.
Bohat search kia magar Allama Iqbal ki zindagi pay koi video nhi mili.
Un k kalaam milay...
Un k akhri din pay aik 2 videos mili.
Na id pay video mili k Quaid.e.Azam beemari ki halat mai Road pay paray rahy magar un ko wo protocol na mila jo milna chaiayy tha.
Kia aaap haqeeqat samnay la sakaingy? Proofs k saath?
You can see the gradual Decline of the country's educational standards, infrastructure and the reputation the country had in it's prior years.
This is sickening and maddening. As a citizen they only thing i want from my country is to leave it behind like a bad memory.
“Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it”. Thanks for making this informative masterpiece, highlighting some major sad incidents so that we remember our mistakes and correct them.
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
The sad reality is Pak has always been under military dictatorship whether directly or indirectly.
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
😢shame on you aramy 😢
Not army.
Only Generals.
Our brothers are in Army
@@SkyMonkeyLing agreed 👍 bro 😎
@@imranmughal9542 delete this comment.
Indian hindus become happy when they see pakistani people disrespecting their soliders
your these brothers wil kill you on the orders of their generals
@@SkyMonkeyLingFoji bhi army mein hi aate. Agar unko sach pta hai aur fir bhi generals k order follow krte to woh bhi ghalat hain
Thank God, we got Visionary Leaders like PM Jawaharlal Nehru.
Despite 4 wars with Pakistan and 1 imposed war with China.
Despite all challenges, keep our Nation on track of Development , IT and progressive mood .
While Pakistan Army becomes undeclared Kings of Pakistan.
No matter how bad the situation gets the army or any institution has no right to dictate to an elected official what they should do.
Country matters more than the constitution.
@@thedemolisher1181 nations gather around a constitution. There is no country without a nation. Also we have broken the constitution multiple times, have you saved the country? The army must be held accountable for the situation we are in today.
@@AbdulRehman-fn4nk If there is threat to the country then it is better to save the country even if one has to break the constitution. Constitution is for the country not the other way round.
@@Modic.deutsch Who said it is the colony of punjab. Muhajirs in karachi support musharraf. Remember it is muhajirs whom made pakistan. There was little to no support in kpk, balochistan while punjab and sindh was fifty fifty. If it is better for my country, I would support a military coup.
@@thedemolisher1181 There is a famous quote that goes something like this "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." We have had more military coups than most contemporary nations on the planet. Last two years of turmoil is also due to a quasi martial law. So I will support a martial law if its better for my country attitude is at best foolish and at worst treacherous. The generals of this army are criminal and just about as corrupt as any in Pakistan. So this nonsense "if its best for my country" is laughable and deeply saddening at the same time.
The way Gen Faiz Chishti said in this video about takeover need at that time pretty much sums up the sorry state of this country.
Outstanding job TCM❤ May you grow more.
General Sahab so proudly said that we had conveyed to ZA Bhutto clearly that if you don't make the situation better, we will fire you. Who the hell are you to fire people's representatives? How could they have been so proud at that time when it was only a few years after the fall of Dhaka and the wounds were still fresh? And why haven't they talked about the role of the USA in all this?
It's not a bottomless pit. Sooner or later we'll bounce. In today's digital era, you can't keep it hidden forever. The system will flush everyone out. It may take 10-15-20 years but we'll get there.
We want free and fair democracy in Pakistan. Establishment should not interfere in politics.
Hope so you are fine, that are my views, which might be wrong:-
Visual in the talking head shoots are mind blowing, literally Netflix level content.
Visual storytelling:- 9.5/10
Sound effects:- 8/10
Editing:- 8.5/10
Keep creating such amazing contents. Best wishes for the TCM team ❤.
TCM is the best yt channel on youtube of Pakistan Politics , current issues i must say now 👍👌
There is a stark difference this time ... Earlier people welcomed toppling of the democratic govt. This time military EST toppled a people backed govt and leader.
Bhai 2018 me bhe people backed govt thi. Us waqt dance kr rhey they pti wale. Abh i hope samaj agai hogi in ko.
@@bekind913
Lekin PMLN aur PPP wale to bohot khush jain... Unke sath to 3-4 dafa hone k baad bhi unke dimaghon mein kuch nahi ghusta.
A stupendous effort by TCM. We are desperately waiting for the coming episodes.
Great work by tcm , maximum information given in very short time. Keep it up
This is great, i will
Share this video everywhere possible, let the world know about the duffer military of Pakistan
This channel is highly recommended as it's the best source for neutral, fair, and balanced content. I used to only listen to Dr. Moeed, but now I prefer this channel. Highly recommended.
Pakistan cannot move forward because of the high ambitions of Pakistan Army officers. This is not only a problem for Pakistan but also for many Muslim majority countries like Egypt, Algeria, Bangladesh etc.
InshaAllah Pakistan will rise with democracy
Pakistan Zindabad
❤ 🇵🇰 ❤
Ilaj krwayn bhai apna. Kia bol rahy ho
@@realaxis2562 tu ja kr apna ilaj krwa ly
Democracy is the only way for Pakistan❤
Keep doing these projects love it and waiting for second episode hope it will release soon
5:13 audacity
Hn buddhay ko giraftaar krna chahye
Bhutto ne shi mai rigging karwai thi this is history na pata ho tou na Bola karo. Bhutto was also the reason we lost Bangladesh
@@mustafaahmed4410 o fauji chamchay . Faujiyon sy history suno gy to jhoothe history btayn gy .
Esi liay neutral perspective sy dekhna chahye cheezon ko
@@mustafaahmed4410 to court ka kaam hai rigging rokna ya fouj ka ???
@@user_9O837OO naam change karle....
Naam rakhle "Ram gand Narendra Kumar"
Teri soch par suit karega gaddar
WOW! CANNOT WAIT FOR MORE-
thanks for bringing this up. for sure many visuals of civil resistance against the undemocratic forces were kept away from citizens.
Pakistan is a sad country. it always had worst/chore/corrupt politicians/police/Army/CivilService. all of them harami/mafia/goonday. Paki people are so good/nice then why the ruling classes are super harami? kaash PakiAwam had courage to put all of them in jail for life and elect good people.
My all productive time in UA-cam with you TCM❤. Bundle of thanks for worthy content 👍.
Well edited, really appreciate the the editor, and Thankyou TCM
Such an amazing video. Waiting for the othe part(s). Thank you
Thanks to the speakers for also highlighting which generals actually supported and followed the constitution
Loved the comment, that if someone was not performing that it was the right of the people of Pakistan to deselect them not some dictator
It's really good to see such thought-provoking content are being made in such needy times to bring the paradigm shift but sadly we are still long road from brining that effective change to mend the things.
Thank you so much for making it.
TCM great work,keep doing it,we support you
My favourite channel of all time.❤
Wish i could be part of this initiative...
The best program, well done!
i dont have words to appreciate your effort.
Excellent video, big congrats to the team who made it possible, hats off to you, love from india
Loved the comment about diversity reflected in the signatures of constitution and resilience of Pakistani nation.
Many things to look into but the few most important are; Constitutional reform (according to the genius of our people rather than copying the UK), Religious extremism, Hereditary politics, Military role, and sorry to say the Punjabi attitude toward Pakistan ( no offense). And I request the TCM to create some constructive contents which contributes to the progress of the youth, instead of scratching the past. these things only implant negativity in our minds.
whats a punjabi attitude? asking as a punjabi!
@@AnnieZehra condescending!
@@AnnieZehra I'm sorry! But it has an issue that need to be addressed.
TCM ❤ you're doing great job
This is most well documented study I have ever seen. However, being IK supporter i just wanted to say try to show all the main events happened in martial laws govements. Then we gonna realise what we have lost and in democratic government what we gonna achieve.
IK is only leader who showed the reality of autocratic government and the ones who is governing almost most than 35 years. He told us we are not slaves. This is the only point i am with him more than 20 years.
@@user-zs6tt7bf3n IK is not the first one, benazir and nawaz also stated it in 90s, diff is that IK just mixed foriegn intervention in it too
Pakistani ArmyBrass should be invited in a conference then arrested and put in jail for life. they are traitors who with the help of criminal partners in CivilService/mafiaPoliticians&haramiPolice have robbed and looted Paki Awam and their lands/monies/properties by force. sadly Paki Awam lack courage and are helpless to do anything as no one helps them to get rid of ArmyMafia&MafiaPublicServices.
@@ahmedmanzar4575mixed? Soo u still believe "SYPHER" is a lie? ....come on man. The world knows now 👍
یہ۔سارے لیڈر عوام کی نہیں بلکہ فوج کی
پیداوار تھے۔۔۔
Sahi kaha bilkul❤
Outstanding effort 👍👍👍
I love TCM channel bcz of the references they give with each argument they present ⭐❤️🇵🇰
seeking forward for next interesting episode
I subscribed !! really great info
Sad reality civilians in Pakistan are left on the mercy of allah 😔 a large population doesn’t even got a proper water to drink 😒 no proper education n healthcare system 🙁
@TCMOriginals Quality production! 👍
Thankyou TCM❤❤❤
We have blessed to have TCM
this is the only media channel that has valuable contents
Thanks TCM❤
The future of our coming generations is lost because of the generals who consider themselves as the master of this country. The only possible way considered to survive is to leave and settle elsewhere.
Kindly exclude Imran Khan, he is not fallen yet, he has won the war against ignorance. He is succeeded.
I left in 1979 for USA. I am glad I did . I am very happy . General Zia not only lied about held elections within six month . He never meant what he said . General Zia destroyed Pakistani schools . My school st Anthony in Lahore was destroyed by making those English people leave Pakistan. Where general Pervez did same , his own children studied outside Pakistan. Now economy is so bad that country of Pakistan can’t take more destruction of economy by army . Army does not know how to run country . We need elections and give imran khan chance or his sons if he is torture . Love imran khan ❤❤
His sons (and daughters too) damn care about khan. He is a bloody stooge, and his kids know that's why they're enjoying concerts in canada. He has always backstabbed the people who were genuine with him
It's time to let the people who are not egoistic and proud
WE KASHMIRIS ARE LISTENING TO THIS ALL.
May Allaah Give Hidaayah to all muslims round the globe.
The lives of 250 million Pakistanis will never be put in danger for 20 million Kashmiris
Excellent work keep it up
Fall of puppets...they had no identity except dollars
Great documentary 👍
Finally.. but stranger things by D- brothers will continue till there's a hero like Mujeeb at least that's what is shown by history.
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Which democratic govt? Pak has never had a democracy. The only time they had free elections the country split in two.
So true 😭😭😭😭
excellent work
Muslim hun India se hun , Allah ka lakh shukr yahi reh gaya, mei apne marzi se shariyat pe b amal,kar saktahun yahan. Alhamdulilah
@@appleworld2958 Definitely, ask me i will tell you the reality, media and politicians infested your minds about India.
@@appleworld2958 no no seriously ask me , anything you have heard about us.
It’s not over till it is over.
Great keep going
Really brave content by TCM during this tumultuous and unconstitutional time in Pakistan's history.
Which keeps coming over and over again. Reminds me of a quote that goes something like: the thing that humans do not learn from history is that they do not learn from history.
@@fahadhussain66 I agree. It's also something like "those who do not learn from events of the past, are doomed to repeat them". Its one of my fav quotes
good work.....
Great job TCM
Don't pollute opportunist with great Khan. IK is a saviour of the nation
We all talk about the history but no one talks about the present. It means we have not yet learned our lesson!!!
Best info episode
Beautiful series
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Hegel.
Waiting for next episode
It’s such a good series but edited in a very bad way. The shots go by so fast, no breaks given between the speakers. Atleast, there should have been a 2-3 second break in between, atleast.
Also, I had to rewind and go back to the start two times because it just didn’t feel like a start. I thought I started a second or a third episode or I started from the middle. The names of the speakers are also a miss. Here’s hoping further episodes are better edited.
The trailer was so good! But the series doesn’t hold attention for me at all and that is only because of the edit.
Great work, TCM :)
The problem is society is quiet, no matter what step the military takes the Pakistani society is quiet. I'm not an Imran Khan fan but it is surprising to see 240millions sitting at home and not even going out on strike. No spine. Einstein said "don't expect different results repeating the same actions"
Well Explained.
Great work
Sir, kya rice m sita nikalny k wqt ya sita nikalny k bad kr skty hn ?
Thanks sir very useful
❤ interesting
It is very unfair that you do an excellent piece on Marshall Law regimes in Pakistan, yet don't mention the Western patronage provided to these dictators from the get go.
Best 👍
Hell for all criminal dictators 😡
4 جولائی 1977 کو دونوں پارٹیوں میں معائدہ ہوچکا تھا تو پھر 5 جولائی کی رات کو مارشل لاء کا کیا جواز تھا
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