Trolling Motor recycled 80ah 18650 battery pack

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  • This T245 Trolling Motor battery was built for my older brothers fishing kayak. It's in a 30P4S configuration with 80ah of usable storage.
    After a car landed on his head (not kidding) the easiest way for him to get around is in a wheelchair take a look at his channel at some of his projects he has entertained himself with over the years.
    His channel - / @gcebiker
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    Pete

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  • @Markle2k
    @Markle2k 6 років тому +254

    Cut the mix on the background music please. Even after you lowered the volume I had a hard time separating out your voice.
    Question: Has anyone come up with a system for generating bar code stickers for cells that could be used to quickly identify a cell and relate it to a database?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +11

      Sorry you didn't like the music really put effort into that part of the video too :( I think many have talked about it but not really come up with a way to truly get it to work

    • @Markle2k
      @Markle2k 6 років тому +20

      It's not simply a matter of taste. It's the fact that I can't hear what you are saying. Choosing music that avoids the frequencies in the speech range would help too. Surely there must be copyright-safe music that has been created to complement voiceovers.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +5

      I’m sure there is and I’ll take advice onboard

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +4

      Just tried it on my kids computers and can hear fine - definitely need to look into it more

    • @Chickey
      @Chickey 6 років тому +7

      I have to admit on my setup the music seemed really loud but the parts where you were speaking were the correct volume.

  • @fmpApps
    @fmpApps 6 років тому +6

    I was considering building my own battery but after watching a few of these videos I realize how little I know about doing it and would better spend my time earning the money to buy one. I do respect those who have learned these skills.

  • @alasdair4161
    @alasdair4161 6 років тому +17

    That will give amazing run times. I just did a similar pack, after making my own outboard using a 2hp mariner leg I fitted with a 90v brushed motor (750w) so I wired my pack as 10p20S with some higher voltage mosfet's in my own PWM speed controller. After a whole weekend of use, it still only reaches ~3.4v/cell. Your build is way better than any lead acid options. He could also plug a lipo alarm into the balance port when in use, it will fire off when there's about 20% remaining with liion's..

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      My bro is a massive TECH head and will no doubt improve it :)

    • @issanesheiwat1396
      @issanesheiwat1396 6 років тому

      How is this better than any lead acid option? Why couldn’t he have just used an 80ah lead acid marine battery? I’m only asking because I’d like to learn more about building a battery pack.

    • @ClaudioHenrique-gy9cx
      @ClaudioHenrique-gy9cx 5 років тому

      I think because acid batterys can't discharge much than the li pack can. Sorry if im not correct and the bad english :) (but acid battery can suply more ah in a shurtly time, for this are used for start the engine of cars)

  • @rahulpathania78
    @rahulpathania78 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome. Just one advice, never cut the BMS wires, rather flatten up the bunch and tape it in the end. Cutting BMS wires alters the resistance hence, the resistivity in each group of cell while balancing during the charge process.. something not big, but not too small to be ignored. Thanks 👍

  • @storminite2041
    @storminite2041 3 роки тому

    I really like how you easily explained how one battery can mess the whole system up if does not workcorrectly. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I didn't understand fully what was involved. Thanks

  • @deltadelta3885
    @deltadelta3885 5 років тому +28

    09:35 Blue is positive.
    there is special hell department for that kind of electric guys...

  • @dgb5820
    @dgb5820 2 роки тому

    Absolutely never a waste of time I enjoy your videos 100% every single video
    What makes your videos outstanding are the added links I wonder if these could be updated please as many don’t work

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  2 роки тому

      Thanks, yes I really should update links... I need an intern.

  • @deathwingelitegantz5264
    @deathwingelitegantz5264 5 років тому +14

    Ditch the music, your voice isn't annoying as you think. Music intro/outro is all you need otherwise Really good.

  • @jamiemarsden9286
    @jamiemarsden9286 6 років тому

    hey pete WOW your videos are getting way better now. since I follow you for a year or so. keep up the good videos mate great to watch them all the way from Kalgoorlie haha.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      Hero piece lol can't put 30plus hours into every video for 8 bucks hahahah - but REALLY loved this one personally. Thanks for tuning in!!!

    • @jamiemarsden9286
      @jamiemarsden9286 6 років тому

      yeah mate ive been following for while now a year or so. dam 30hrs+ that's crazy. you have done a great job on this one. was it built for your self? or customer? cause if its not for a customer dam I can just imagine the quality that would have :P

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      It's for my brothers small boat - but looks like i'm going to have to remake it as it doesn't quite fit lol

    • @jamiemarsden9286
      @jamiemarsden9286 6 років тому

      oh yeah nice. oh yeah haha gotta hate that. would he build a false floor for it ? to kinda hide it away also keep it safe?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Going to put it into an esky only place it fits in next to the seat as its a one man kayak

  • @korishan
    @korishan 6 років тому +32

    Hahaha, Trolling. You beat the other trolls to it :P

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +2

      Nailed IT !

    • @Xstreamaudio
      @Xstreamaudio 6 років тому +1

      HBPowerwall can I make a 80 ah set up to run in my truck?..I compete in usaci competitons for audio...I would like to be able to charge at 16.2 or close..I have a 350 amp adjustable alternator.

    • @emmanuelorisanmi1395
      @emmanuelorisanmi1395 6 років тому

      pls can I get dis battery

    • @korishan
      @korishan 6 років тому

      Sure you can have it. Watch his other videos on how to make them and make one yourself. Don't be lazy.

  • @alanporter
    @alanporter 6 років тому

    Hi Pete, I’m a long time follower, but this is my first time to comment. I really enjoyed this video. Couldn’t tell you put hours of editing into it, but I’m sure you did. Awesome job! Keep up the good work.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      MANY many hours Alan I assure you :) but definitely a rewarding result! Thanks for tuning in

  • @fookutube501
    @fookutube501 6 років тому +6

    And that 4.08 cell though he was doing well.RIP lone ranger

  • @drubradley8821
    @drubradley8821 6 років тому

    Doing my yearly check-in, to see how things are going... with the 18650's reclamation standard you have created world wide... still running strong, I see, and am glad to see.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      Giving it a crack :) Still going strong!

  • @harleypater7317
    @harleypater7317 6 років тому +5

    1. Given up on fusing for low current (per cell) applications?
    2. Cheap balance boards are more trouble then they are worth!! Balance charge or use a balance checker and only charge to 4.05v once your happy the cells are well matched, checking occasionally.
    3. 4s is the new 3s Most camping items will run no problems at 16v and run down to 10v.
    4. Where did you get the Asus batteries from at a good price? Stored at 3.6 to 3.8v those batteries will outlast time itself.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +6

      Tried to fuse but looked ugly - yes that's my excuse ugly lol but took every step possible to still build a safe battery. Still needs load fuses and waterproof box for it but that'll be in the next video. I agree those BMS cause more issues than they solve but I was TRYING to build this battery as good as possible. 4s is definitely becoming more popular Over time i've saved 100's of laptop battery packs with these cells in them - too good for powerwall use I thought.

  • @amigoselvador2786
    @amigoselvador2786 6 років тому +1

    just looked at how you work i really Enjoy it.. I came out with a better and useful result
    by the way I was not bothered by the music, not because I did not like it. just i am 70% deaf..Some want to hear everything to understand properly.Some do not hear anything but understand everything Dear Sir HBPowerwall Thank you again for giving a chance to someone like me to understand and left from here with something useful

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      glad it worked for you :) I enjoyed editing this one

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      @@biancad6289 I hope you recover soon lol

  • @Wicked03GT
    @Wicked03GT 4 роки тому

    Man I wish I had the means to build this myself. Very satisfying to watch it come together. I would buy this if you sold them, exactly what I need for my kayak trolling motor

  • @HubsLab
    @HubsLab 6 років тому +4

    I need a powerbank like this

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      what would you run with it..

    • @HubsLab
      @HubsLab 6 років тому +1

      hmm something like my phone or dog idk

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +4

      You could run your phone for 3 whole days if it was an iPhone Sweet! How would you power your dog, imagine it would uncomfortable inserting the batteries, and HOW would you charge your dog - seems like its probably not a practical idea

    • @Bonjbeer
      @Bonjbeer 6 років тому

      @@HBPowerwall Maybe it's K-9 ?

  • @flyflyevich2039
    @flyflyevich2039 5 років тому

    Great job! You are a very hardworking person.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому +1

      Can you tell my wife please :P

    • @flyflyevich2039
      @flyflyevich2039 5 років тому

      @@HBPowerwall How many do not earn wives will not be enough)

  • @jedics1
    @jedics1 6 років тому +18

    Nice vid, really tidy looking pack, although being past my clubbing days the massive increase in music volume compared to your voice over was annoying.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +2

      Bugger, I'm sorry - it was very much planed like that wanted the talking to kinda be second to the music/edit - lesson learn learned on this one I thinks... Thanks for taking the time to add some feedback .. :)

    • @haciendadad
      @haciendadad 4 роки тому

      @@jeffallen3382 Lighten up dude!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому

      I accept that I don’t like the same music as my mum :) all good each time their own

  • @TomTheDutchy
    @TomTheDutchy 6 років тому

    The thing that surprises me is the amount of time spent on sorting the cells to an exact capacity using some simple software to calculate which cell goes in which pack. Given the uncertainty on the measurement of your capacity the actual number is not very important, if you round them all up or down to multiples of 50 or 100 you are fine as well and it saves you a lot of time.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      That idea is common with several thousand cell packs - smaller ones repackr works very well charge and discharge voltage is max of 0.02v

  • @oldtimeengineer26
    @oldtimeengineer26 6 років тому +4

    holly cow did I miss the fuse looked like every thing spot welded together

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      No fuses - eBike style this one :)

  • @FGQuinto
    @FGQuinto 3 роки тому

    There’s your problem mate. In case you missed it. You have to replace the paper tape around that shaft with something heavier duty. Jobs done. Well done. 🤪

  • @dirt8589
    @dirt8589 6 років тому

    was that an actual wall phone ring talk about a sound taking a person back in time almost music to ones ears havent heard that sound in years thanx for the feed as always enjoyed the build

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      standard iPhone ring lol drove me crazy as I mostly edit with head phones and kept taking the head phones off and picking up my phone lol good enough reason to leave in hehe

  • @rtem-h6c
    @rtem-h6c 6 років тому +4

    Too small bms I think, current is will be about 40A continues, that bms may be always hot

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      very little amp draw, but you're right probably too small

  • @chrisvanvoorst2125
    @chrisvanvoorst2125 4 роки тому

    really enjoyed the video. I did find the music over bearing. Keep up the good work.

  • @samansah3420
    @samansah3420 6 років тому +6

    How can you test the cells accurately when they are not under load?

  • @AlanMedina314
    @AlanMedina314 5 років тому +2

    Great Video, love the wire management and spot-welding.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @aruns1052
    @aruns1052 6 років тому +7

    30s4p?
    We all make that mistake.😋😋

    • @jylimports
      @jylimports 6 років тому +1

      I think is 4S 30P

    • @greengoatman
      @greengoatman 6 років тому +1

      it's definitely a 4s 30p Battery, its a 4 cell battery with 30 batteries per cell

    • @wojomojo
      @wojomojo 6 років тому

      Garrett Green nice troll

  • @minekoiwa2971
    @minekoiwa2971 5 років тому

    If you still do not use the "active balancer", I recommend it. That has been one of my nightmares with batteries.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      No active balancer yet and wouldn't use active on a pack this small anyway. Just use a balance charger to charge it. It'll always be balanced that way. Not worried about low voltage cut off as batter doesn't get worked that hard.

  • @SidneyCritic
    @SidneyCritic 6 років тому +14

    That's impossible to watch with tinnitus. You turn it up because you can't hear the voice, and then you get blasted by music and it feels like someone just stuck a screwdriver in your ear. Ouchy

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Chronic tinnitus for 8 years (church bells stuff) I understand your pain sorry

    • @thedave7760
      @thedave7760 6 років тому +1

      The mix wasn't too bad but I would question your choice of music. Horrible grating electro poo. Nice build though.

    • @fookutube501
      @fookutube501 6 років тому

      Welcome to the family.My started in 2005 and it suck ,it went from cicada(Wish i still cicada sound) to roaring jet engines that only stop when i go to sleep

    • @fmpApps
      @fmpApps 6 років тому

      Fook Utube Are you doing anything in your life that would increase your stress? Hot coffee, hot sauce, spices, anxiety, loud music, stress, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, etc. One man had gained control of his than blamed the doctors for failing after he began drinking and arguing with his customers.

  • @njfulwider5
    @njfulwider5 6 років тому

    Don't you love the short work a Spot welder makes of a huge battery pack!!!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      There is just a few min of cutting up nickel then bam it's done! And looks so dam good lol

    • @njfulwider5
      @njfulwider5 6 років тому

      I started out only using a Spot welder(or my homemade built spot welders), I am just now getting used to soldering a cell. If I could get away with it, I use a spot welder on everything. Love the work you put in on this. That battery should last a long time!!! Good cells you used also. You Can't beat those NCRs

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      Next challenge will be keeping it dry and servicable

    • @haroldking979
      @haroldking979 6 років тому

      I assume its been in service for a while now? Any word how long it lasted etc? Keep up the good work :)

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Haven’t tuned it in since too cold lol haven’t even done a load test

  • @gyorgybako274
    @gyorgybako274 6 років тому +22

    Horrible musc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      Classical music isn't for me either -- each to their own :)

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      @@jeffallen3382 it's not hard - i love it :) I don't have to agree with my wife lol i don't have to agree with the interwebs - i'll do better (maybe) next time

  • @samuelisraelsson5610
    @samuelisraelsson5610 2 роки тому

    If you still have the battery I have a request for a video where you tell us how it worked and if you would do it again if you have suggestions for improvement. Also a capacity test to see how much capacity the battery lost.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  2 роки тому

      Never ended up taking it out on the boat, due to brother selling it. That said its still working - runs different things from time to time. I tested it about months ago and tested at 74ah but that was with an iCharger X8 at 10 amps rather than 4ish amps through the old discharger.

  • @jocerv43
    @jocerv43 6 років тому +29

    You just had to use the worst possible music.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +4

      If you like classical music sure, but i love it

    • @Thebigboram
      @Thebigboram 6 років тому +3

      Horrible

    • @ArcaanRitual
      @ArcaanRitual 5 років тому

      If when we die, there is a bad place, it will be full of discos that only play UA-cam music.

    • @andrelarsen7317
      @andrelarsen7317 9 місяців тому

      I find the "music" incredible annoying too. It made me mute the video and skip large parts

  • @dieselphiend
    @dieselphiend 4 роки тому

    In America and only having 110v as standard residential wiring, we can't use those cheaper Chinese spot welders. We have to use spot welders that run on batteries, like the Malectrics or the Kweld kits. They are brilliant!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому +1

      Kweld - FOR THE WIN - next video *wink emoji*

  • @chumadoshi6987
    @chumadoshi6987 5 років тому +19

    Destroyed a good video with all that STUPID MUSIC NOISE!!!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому +1

      I love the stupid music noise does that help?

    • @mashedpotatoes5323
      @mashedpotatoes5323 5 років тому

      @@HBPowerwall shows you don't have good taste in music..

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      Impeccable tastes my good man 👨 lol

  • @sed6
    @sed6 4 роки тому

    Your video gives me hope I can repair the Tesla battery module I just shorted out!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому

      How you do that bud? I'm in the process of doing a video to test the capicity of a tesla battery

  • @MikesDIYTeslaPowerwall
    @MikesDIYTeslaPowerwall 6 років тому +5

    Wheres Mr cell fuse?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +3

      Couldn't make it look sexy - and given it will live in a salt water environment with plenty of movement probally not wise - V2 can include some for sure

  • @Away907
    @Away907 4 роки тому +1

    I've made 25s4p pack for the trolling motor using new 3400mah batteries from aliexpress. Also decide not to take risk with built-in BMS and use ISDT charger instead - at least i can get numbers this way. Gave it a try recently. Running on the slowest speed(3kmh) it lasted for 6hrs and 15min, consuming 180w on average. Wattmeter indicated i managed to pull almost 1150whr up to the moment when voltage dropped to 3v/cell. Going faster require about 300-400w and resulted in low voltage warning when battery was less than 25% of capacity.
    BTW, these motors can take 16.8V, no need for pwm controller. This will kind of push it to the limits. My motor is rated 430w at 12v, according to wattmeter it was pulling 600w+ on 16.8v battery. Running it full throttle reduces the range. I was getting 15km on medium speed and 18km on low speed. Max speed will empty battery in 1.5hrs with about 9-10 miles covered.

  • @RubberSmuggins
    @RubberSmuggins 6 років тому +3

    Only managed 1 minute due to the crap overlay. I won`t be back.

  • @DubiousEngineering
    @DubiousEngineering 6 років тому

    Good work, I like the idea of using the imax as a balanced charge system... I’m going to employ that on my mobility scooter upgrade! .... great tip!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      It works & it's what I already had :) That IMAX is a beast! So reliable!~

  • @DIYkanalas
    @DIYkanalas 6 років тому

    Amazing job. Virtuoso video production. Like.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      thank-you

    • @DIYkanalas
      @DIYkanalas 6 років тому

      Hello. I have little project, you can watch and appreciate my job. Look to my channal - ua-cam.com/channels/IZk32bpkaEzrCWvBb9z0nQ.html?view_as=subscriber

  • @powerwallparts560
    @powerwallparts560 6 років тому

    Such a clean build made to looks so easy, awesome as always dude

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      I really love this pack - too cold to go out and test to finnish the video lol

  • @twcstransam
    @twcstransam 6 років тому

    Neat project Pete

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      TY Sir ... 10x longer to film and edit than to just make but I love the end result, can't wait to test it on the water

    • @twcstransam
      @twcstransam 6 років тому

      The PCM was a good idea. I'm sure it'll be good, curious as to how long it will last you.

    • @twcstransam
      @twcstransam 6 років тому

      Is that a battery powered glue gun?

  • @dennisyoung4631
    @dennisyoung4631 3 роки тому

    Nice Battery. I need to attempt one like it at a (somewhat) higher voltage, for when the power goes out here (like it did yesterday).
    No power = no sleep, in my case, due to breathing problems I was mostly born with.

  • @dennisyoung4631
    @dennisyoung4631 3 роки тому

    I bought one of those exact chargers to do this sort of thing. Not sure if it was recommended here or not, but thanks just the same.

  • @tdabonde
    @tdabonde 6 років тому

    Awesome video mate! I'll be making one of these.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      I love the results - pitty I couldn't work out how to do cells fuses & make them look sexy as well

    • @ahaveland
      @ahaveland 6 років тому

      I think Tesla cells use a plate with holes that are bigger than the positive terminal and line up with them, then a short fuse connects them.
      With nickel strips on the positive side, you could make a grid that lies *between* the cells and spot weld the fuses to it, or even try a copper plate with large drilled holes.
      The negative side can be spot welded as normal.
      Best place to attach the power cables is at the centre of each terminal plate, or at multiple places for really high currents. With the power cables at the corners, the entire 30P current goes through just 2 strips worth of nickel!

  • @johnreyfrancisco4373
    @johnreyfrancisco4373 4 роки тому +1

    I wish i had batteries like that for my projects

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому

      They are out there you just have to look for them in creative places

  • @thenima
    @thenima 6 років тому

    Enjoyed the video .

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Thank-You thenima - really enjoyed making this one - pitty i screwed up the audio .. but live an learn

  • @tomamerman7699
    @tomamerman7699 6 років тому

    Awesome battery pack man.

  • @mwbgaming28
    @mwbgaming28 6 років тому +2

    great to know where i can get those exact cells from
    just recently built a battery box with an inverter and lighter outlet out of random cells i had laying around (it was a nightmare to match the capacities of each parallel set by tacking lipo cells onto each cell pack to balance the capacities)
    capacity: 750wh
    240V power: 500W
    12V power: 240W
    24V power: direct connection
    all enclosed in a steel box with holes cut for all the plugs and indicators
    thinking of building a DIY powerwall for my caravan next

  • @TheMoonhead30
    @TheMoonhead30 5 років тому

    Do you have a page or website you sell finished battery packs I seriously need to build one but need to learn so much more lol videos like yours make me excited lol I have a 48v 1000w electric scooter and am wanting to upgrade it to 60v-70v 2000w with as much ah as possible lol I wont attempt until I learn so much more but your videos are great many thank looking for batterys may take enough time for me to learn lol

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      we have the community forum www.secondlifestorage.com or the facebook group www.diypowerwall.com but i don't personally do it sorry

  • @billtrue3017
    @billtrue3017 6 років тому

    Yes we are hear to learn not to danse ,but its great what your doing thank you and happy new year

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      thanks bill, HNY to you also

  • @JoeMalovich
    @JoeMalovich 4 роки тому

    You should check your links in the description, many are broken.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому

      I should after so many years lol

  • @AveRage_Joe
    @AveRage_Joe 6 років тому

    Nice Clean Build!

  • @raisagorbachov
    @raisagorbachov 4 роки тому

    I'm working on a Lion battery for my motorhome. Only 10-15AH but that's plenty for what I need. So far, 5 x 4 lithium battery holders, 20 protected 18650s. I'll run 5 packs in parallel of 4 in series giving me 13.8v nominal. That should allow me a peak draw of at least 6a.

  • @vaislaj
    @vaislaj 6 років тому

    hahha, nice, i was sitting yesterday and idea come up to make a car charger, car booster and 220v output by battery packs, i have more than 120 batteries from laptops, subscribed.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Sounds like you'll fit in well over on the forum www.secondlifestorage.com

    • @saminasarvat2490
      @saminasarvat2490 4 роки тому

      @@HBPowerwall how to arrange different capacity cell you showed in video using laptop but i don't understand... Can you please give me that site.

  • @gazsope
    @gazsope 5 років тому

    It is said that the storing voltage of liion batteries should be around 3.7-3.9V but not fully charged.

  • @samuelmdouglas
    @samuelmdouglas 3 роки тому +1

    I have a car audio system in a wheelie Bin and am interested in using these batteries, what would be the best configuration?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  3 роки тому +1

      Good question, but I don't have the answer sorry.

    • @samuelmdouglas
      @samuelmdouglas 3 роки тому +1

      @@HBPowerwall no worries thanks mate

  • @886luke
    @886luke 2 роки тому

    What is the program you used for capacity optimization and cell placement? It looks interesting.

  • @flip_flop_farmer
    @flip_flop_farmer 5 років тому

    thank you

  • @jakobhovman
    @jakobhovman 6 років тому

    Hello HB, great channel, great project...!
    When you solder on the leads, you can do it on the strip Between the cells...(less heat build up).
    Fuse - Idea: Get your brother to put a "Master Fuse" in the PVM box...and,
    for good measure, check all cable dimensions.
    Also, test the system, with a "Locked" propeller...
    Good to know, what will heat up and how much...Also, to find the right fuse.
    PS: I sort my cells in Excell.
    Greetings from Denmark...Jakob.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Next version I have soldered to some nickel Then spot welded to the pack thus reducing all heat :) Already have a resettable fuse and emergency disconnect planed I need to get the second video edited and released, trying to raise some funds thus pumping out the quick and easy ones

    • @jakobhovman
      @jakobhovman 6 років тому

      Good to know, I see you are on top of it...! In ver 2, I suggest a series of 4 separate packs of cells...easier to repair and renew.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      True it would be easier to separate and service but harder to move around considering my brother is in a wheelchair

    • @jakobhovman
      @jakobhovman 6 років тому

      Yes, they need to go together, as a unit, into some kind of toolcase/powerbox, for ease of handling. I am sure your brother will make it connect to his rc boat hauler tractor!

  • @charlschuck6
    @charlschuck6 4 роки тому

    Good install btw I had many bms go bad after a while so I just go for balance charging leads for the smart chargers and keeps it always .09v-/+ balance and so far it’s cheaper but my batteries are always working and I tried to dont go above the amperage ratings

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому +1

      BMS is also protects against under voltage to save the cells. That said this battery still gets used quite a lot and i only use a balance charger - does work well if you accept it's dangers

  • @MrSnapy1
    @MrSnapy1 6 років тому

    Sweet pack! neater than mine I went the fuse wire route. l have ran into a few problems with my 4s packs the high voltage pushes more amps into the motor reducing the AH rating. Tried a few buck convertors to keep a steady 12.5v but they get HOT will try a few more beefier ones or add a tiny pc fan. Before my buck burnt out I was getting 20% or more run time @12.5 vs 14-16 volts. The bright side is it supercharges the trolling motor lol Still it beats a 3s pack which the motor falls flat with much capacity remaining. Just remember to monitor voltage a 4s will easily drop cells below 3 volts if not monitored.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Next one I build will be fused between the Series packs I think. It's the neatest way I can think of setting it up. Will take out the whole battery but better than nothing. Hope I can make it to the gold coast soon to my brother's house to test it out. But I'm about as good at 'water' as I am at 'mathing'

  • @huskypup3489
    @huskypup3489 5 років тому

    I think you may want to include a current limiting device on each cell since you have so many in parallel. If one cell develops an internal short, the other 39 cells will happily discharge into the bad cell and create a burn hazard. I've seen others use a thin piece of wire in series with each cell for current limiting.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      That is how i have all my packs built - this one was meant for a boat on the deck so if there was an issue it could go for a swim :P

    • @elk3909
      @elk3909 5 років тому

      if you have quality cells that current would burn up the positive tab inside the cell as this is a safety feature

  • @genoory5090
    @genoory5090 Рік тому

    I wanna get a 100ah battery built in this configuration for my wilderness systems ATAK 140 kayak that has a small rear hatch and a 12v minn kota 55lb thrust motor. So was that battery heavy?

  • @swfurn2
    @swfurn2 6 років тому

    Very nice build. Thank you! Be cool to compare the size and weight of that battery to what you would need for a lead acid of the same capacity.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      For sure - i'll see what my brother currenty has when i go down to install and test (might have to wait till it warms up a bit)

    • @swfurn2
      @swfurn2 6 років тому

      Thanks!

  • @akatamarvelous4687
    @akatamarvelous4687 5 років тому

    I like everything about this video, but please I would like to know more about the imax charger, please I would like to how many vot can it charge I want to know if it can more than 24v or 48vs battery

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому +1

      it's only 6s from memory. so no good for 7s 24v or higher. I don't know of a good 48v hobby charger with balancing but the iCharger X6 and X8 are second to none in my opinion - been using the x6 for years and it's just keeps on going www.diypowerwalls.com/x6

    • @akatamarvelous4687
      @akatamarvelous4687 5 років тому

      @@HBPowerwall I thank you so much, I don't know if you can teach me how to build a 24v battery and how to install the balancing cable, because I will be using the new imax charger

  • @mikebogaard5610
    @mikebogaard5610 6 років тому

    You do a very goodjob sir

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 4 роки тому

    Also I used the batt hookup, nickel fuse, 100 cells, in a square, with added strip, in a square, 2cells from the edge, with two strips crossing about 3cells between, with another nickel strip across the top. I have a 12g, silicone wire, connected to the double strip areas and another at the very top. For 4 total, since you tested the fuses. I'm curious if you think this will suffice? My system can only pull about 300 amps. And this is one of 3+ banks, so 100 amps peak, it's not perfect, but I have the current coming from 4 locations in the middle of the pack. Not many have videoed actual use of this stuff. Any idea? Thanks

  • @ManiniyotProTV
    @ManiniyotProTV 4 роки тому +1

    hi I am your follower since 2016 I nsfired to do the same thing, I build my own battery generator to power my photo printer that I used for the portable printing service any time without using the grid. thak you my friend.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for following me, and i'm happy to hear your solution works well or you

  • @plexeus
    @plexeus 7 місяців тому

    How long does this take to charge with the Imax? Im building a similar setup and im thinking of ditching the ebay BMS for a (in my case) 3S balance lead. im worried this will take ages to charge at 6amps in a 3S30P configuration at the theoretical max charge rate of 6 amps.

  • @mrgreenswelding2853
    @mrgreenswelding2853 6 років тому

    I would like to see how the pwm was made.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      Its cheap off ebay, link is in the description - i think it's too cheap to bother making your self to be honest .

    • @mrgreenswelding2853
      @mrgreenswelding2853 6 років тому

      @@HBPowerwall I bought a couple motor controller off eBay. They seem to work alight but I will check the pwms

  • @MyOwntuahur
    @MyOwntuahur 6 років тому

    nice work

  • @giangtrungnguyen
    @giangtrungnguyen 5 років тому

    Great job, bro! But I'm thinking about how danger it is when exploding. LOL. If I'm about to make the same one, I have to do it outside of my house, and within a protective mask!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому +1

      Always be safe i guess - this was to go in a boat on the deck so if there was an issue - over the side it goes

  • @EyeonFGCPlus
    @EyeonFGCPlus 5 років тому

    What are the tons of batteries on the wall used for? powering things in the house. I have only seen a few videos around with Walls full of batteries like this.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому +1

      I have 4480 of them running my home for the past 3-4 years, then have another 1120 on my workshop wall running lights and fans in my workshop - then another 1120 at my buddy place running his home off grid. Have another 3000 to upgrade my home battery soon.

    • @EyeonFGCPlus
      @EyeonFGCPlus 5 років тому

      @@HBPowerwall I figured it was something like that. That is actually amazing. I assume they are charged by solar power?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому +1

      Yes i have about 60 panels providing the electrons

  • @trollking202
    @trollking202 Рік тому +1

    I rested my battery 10 years and now it’s rusted 😮

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  Рік тому

      Not surprised ! lol Reminds me I should take the heat wrap off this battery and take a look at it.

  • @mertcapkin7263
    @mertcapkin7263 5 років тому

    I have the same Imax charger. Is it correct that the charger basically replaces the BMS while charging but that you don't have anything that protects the battery pack when being used?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      Just common sense & the knowledge that if it over discharges i'll have to replace it :}{

  • @steve64464
    @steve64464 6 років тому

    Did you do any more research on the CID? I'm interested to see what you learn, I think ive found a cid on a cell that pushes out during discharge then somehow goes back in by itself.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Nothing more as yet but really keen to either prove my point or learn that i'm wrong either way it's a good thing for the community

    • @steve64464
      @steve64464 6 років тому

      Thanks for your on going research into these things :-)

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      more like guess work than research hehe but i'll give it a good hard crack anyway

    • @steve64464
      @steve64464 6 років тому

      Its the best we can do i guess as long as its not blowing up in our faces.

  • @nicolasverardimurillo5335
    @nicolasverardimurillo5335 6 років тому

    Hi. This powerbank is great. I thank you for all the information you give in your videos.
    I have some doubts. The engine works with 12v and the powerbank delivers 16.6 this difference will not damage the engine?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      Black box sorts that out :)

    • @nicolasverardimurillo5335
      @nicolasverardimurillo5335 6 років тому

      You mean the pwm. Then I must replace the one that comes in the intex motor trolling .. Thanks.

  • @freetrailer4poor
    @freetrailer4poor 6 років тому

    I wonder if this battery will outperform a 100ahr deep cycle lead acid battery in regards to on the water use and duration?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      1/4 the weight and I dare say heaps more stored energy that's safe to use than a Deep Cycle - 100ah is really 50ah that is safely useable to have longevity of you're battery

    • @freetrailer4poor
      @freetrailer4poor 6 років тому

      I have been on the water on over 100 (maybe 300) trips in a boat with a trolling motor and one 100ahr lead acid battery. Many times when you run it down to empty, you can tell the motor is almost empty the way it behaves. You probably have to monitor the voltage of Lithium to make sure if you are at the end of the lake, you have enough to make it back, or have a small dedicated backup battery. I was just wondering due the inefficiency of the lead acid how the run time would compare if the motor was run on high with a 100ahr lead acid compared to the runtime on the 80ahr battery until the motor basically stopped. Life expectancy does not matter if you have to row. I was actually in the process of building one before this video. The trolling motor I still use is 40 years old MX60 Minnekota.

  • @alba1307
    @alba1307 4 роки тому

    Are the balancing leads the same with the to methods?

  • @danielgilbert8053
    @danielgilbert8053 6 років тому

    Hi, Thanks for the great UA-cam video. I'm interested in salvaging 18650 batteries and building my own battery packs. Any suggestions on what you need to get started?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      luck lol it's getting harder to find good cells to use

  • @gasperajdnik5627
    @gasperajdnik5627 5 років тому +1

    You are a wery smart guy like one Up The Sleeve Customs.

  • @balancex3
    @balancex3 6 років тому

    great vid, rockin music. very nice

  • @KenSentMe-
    @KenSentMe- 4 роки тому

    Nice video. Im currently making 4s25p for my Motor Guide R3 55lbs digital. I would like to ask if you wrapped or sealed the pack somehow to make it water proof to prevent corrosion and fire risk?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому

      Same type of build as an Ebike

  • @himselfe
    @himselfe 6 років тому

    You could quite easily automate the cell testing and sorting process with a custom jig & some Arduino / Pi wizardry, which would save you a _lot_ of time and optimise your workflow.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому +1

      I can't math let alone Arduino lol

  • @dunukic
    @dunukic 5 років тому

    Do I need to consider battery cell resistance when building a battery pack out of different recycled old laptop li ion cells?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      You should consider and factor that could cause issues.

  • @Captain_Kdawg
    @Captain_Kdawg 4 роки тому

    I’m thinking of building the same exact one and using the same exact trolling motor. Is the 16.8 charged voltage too much for the water snake 24?? I know you used a voltage regulator but is that required for the “12 volt water snake motor”??

    • @Captain_Kdawg
      @Captain_Kdawg 4 роки тому

      HBPOWERWALL

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  4 роки тому

      Yes, that black box - a PWM speed controller knocks down the voltage

  • @MrMazizo121
    @MrMazizo121 6 років тому

    Thanks a lot for your videos, very informative.

  • @bionicblitz171
    @bionicblitz171 6 років тому

    I would've added a big bus bar from your main lead across the battery cause right now all the current from all the batteries (except the one its soldered to) has to travel through those two tiny nickle strips. a tick bus bar across the battery would spread the load out a lot better. if you draw high current (more than the battery is rated for + what the strip is rated for) it'll kill the battery then melt the strip or vice versa besides that it was a neat build

  • @michaelita8846
    @michaelita8846 11 місяців тому

    Please where do u get your battery cells from

  • @thelazycat_
    @thelazycat_ 2 роки тому

    What are those numbers on the cells and the laptop? Balancing what exactly? Thanks

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  2 роки тому +1

      likely the hand written numbers you're referring to are the cells tested capacity

  • @MrAhmedsihab
    @MrAhmedsihab 5 років тому

    Hi,
    I have a question regarding the internal resistance of 18650 battery
    1- What is the risk of building a recycled 18650 lithium battery without checking and measuring the internal resistance?
    2- How is the battery built after measuring and knowing the internal resistance values of the 18650 batteries, especially if the internal resistance values for each battery differ from the others for 18650 for recycled lithium batteries?

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      Never tested IR so can't help with an educated reply.

  • @jerryblackledge9749
    @jerryblackledge9749 3 роки тому

    I have a ATV 4wheeler can I use them to make a battery I got a bms 25 amp how many of them do I need

  • @advancednutritioninc908
    @advancednutritioninc908 5 років тому

    Liked !! Subbed !! What BMS do you like for 5s and 6s packs? do you have a favorite brand and source? I have been using ebay ... but you have a lot more experience than i do. Thanks!!

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      I use www.batrium.com BMS products 6-10S WatchMon7 10-15s Watchmon5 anything larger the WatchMon4

    • @advancednutritioninc908
      @advancednutritioninc908 5 років тому

      @@HBPowerwall Thank you very much for the answer!! Best of success to you!

  • @jaysonwallker1648
    @jaysonwallker1648 Рік тому

    4.08 is fine for a flashlight, or torch as you call them.

  • @DavidLopez-xp1ht
    @DavidLopez-xp1ht 5 років тому

    Hello, what’s the reason you didn’t include the one with 4.08v? I can assume, but I’d like to know the process. And what’s going on with this specific battery.

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому

      From memory it was lower in voltage (should have been 4.2v) so probably self discharging

  • @Guust_Flater
    @Guust_Flater 6 років тому

    Funny propeller 😁👍

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  6 років тому

      It's not working so well took out and never moved - can't seem to figure it out lol

  • @antiest08787
    @antiest08787 5 років тому

    Thanks for the vid, very useful. i'm wanting to do something similar for my trolling motor on my kayak. And nothing wrong with audio in this vid! People love to hate haha

    • @HBPowerwall
      @HBPowerwall  5 років тому +1

      Gets interaction and i've learnt more about editing so win win.. glad you enjoyed