The 80s movie is iconic *_because_* of actual consequences faced by characters that American children hadn't seen in cartoons prior. In spite of those consequences, words said prior provide more weight to the decisions (both heroic and villainous) made by characters.
Wouldve been cool to have alternate heads and chest pieces so you could still have a normal version of each toy. Especially with prowl, a smoking effect for the eyes wouldve been cool.
I find it funny that the regular Ratchet and Brawn were one of those things I saw and just bought, and now can't find it anywhere. Now, it's just that damage pack over and over again!
Display these while blasting Instruments of Destruction in the room. A Starscream that transforms into a pile of ash would be very hard for Hasbro to pull off.
Its ironic because the only reason so many beloved characters were even killed off in the film were because Hasbro noticed their toys weren't selling as well as they expected and now we've come full circle in the worst way possible.
There's irony, but not for that reason. They weren't killed off because they weren't selling; all of TF started selling as soon as they hit. It took a long time to make a feature length animated movie like this, so the movie was being developed when and produced while we were still watching the first season. Hasbro decided to eliminate the characters from the '84 line because they figured that we would have all of those Transformers by the time the movie came out (we did) and they wanted to get them out of the way. The problem they had is that between Marvel and Sunbow, they'd created characters we cared about. That wasn't the best move and the writers warned them. My best friend and I were in a theater packed with kids and these scenes hit hard, so hard that season 3 didn't work as much for us. They brought Prime back because of that irony: they thought we wouldn't care, but the move to kill him and the others made Hasbro realize how much we did. Now how that realization led to these morbid figures is what I'd like to know.
@@tf8767 I’d be with that and understand that they were phasing in their own homegrown line if it wasn’t for them bringing in the Diaclone Powered Convoy, changing his color and making him Ultra Magnus. They weren’t fully moving away yet, so if Megs could be Galvatron then Optimus could’ve been an upgraded Prime (which ended up happening anyway). The shift wasn’t the issue, it was how the Hasbro execs handled it, and ignoring the writers who guided the Joe and TF shows to success when they warned them about killing characters wasn’t the best move.
@@hironoshozo ultra magnus was not supposed to exist , he was used for temporary box art and the ceo's liked it so much they actually wrote him in theres a whole youtube video about it
@ I’m aware of all of that, but Magnus was on the shelves right next to the Springer and Hot Rod I got that summer, and all of the others that came out. They were all out by late May when my school year ended and that one stayed on shelves with the rest of them. And again, it’s not the transition of the toy line, it’s how they handled it; while my friend and I were a little bummed out by Prime’s death, there were younger kids in there and we heard and saw them reacting very differently. Ron Friedman had a different transition concept and Hasbro made an executive decision to kill, something they had to do damage control for later. The TF franchise itself pulled through and survived but not without them having to “fix” that first.
"A step too far," you thought, as you bought them anyway, yes? 😉 What cracks me up the most is the box art that depicts Ratchet and Brawn in their death-throes. All we need now is for Hasbro to include a letter that says, "Hey, remember when Artax sank into the swamp and died?"
Hate it's G1 fans? Bruh that's the part they've fed the most in the last couple of years. Imagine what it was to be an Unicron trilogy fan before Legacy
Definitely being hyperbolic with the title! 🤣. But it's also very true that nostalgia seems to be where the big money is these days, so they cater to it more than they ever have. Totally get that!
@@Flashback_Funhouse I'm not oppose of alot of the new modern g1 characters in the mainline, I'm just annoyed that because of 86 being a part of the studio series line it's just overshadowed the live action movie figures because the line was originally for the live action movie characters in the toy form (if you don't believe me, then just remember that from these two years 2023 and 2024 the only bayverse figures that come out was a core class dotm bumblebee, which was already a laserbeak repaint, the 15th anniversary desepticons 4 pack, rotf 15 anniversary autobots pack with only prime, Jetfire and the arcee triplets being encluded, and Mohawk, which is the only one New mould from all of these)
@@user-cp8nk7yq1s So I had sons at the perfect time for the Bayverse era and have a ton of Transformers from that time (well, they're my sons', but I'm taking good care of them for them so they will always have them!). They used to drive me nuts because I felt they were over-engineered or a little too complex, partially because I would just get handed a Megatron and told to Transform it during play!! But they've definitely grown on me, and some of the designs were really cool. I imagine EVENTUALLY people will get more nostalgic for that era and we will get more updated releases. One can hope!
I actually kinda like these 2 packs in a weird way. They go on sale pretty frequently so I can get 2 figures for all the price of a Voyager. And I just use them as "battle damage" versions and instead of dying versions. Also no clear plastic on Prowl, Ironhide, or Ratchet so that automatically makes me like them. I'm also a big fan of the purple blast effects each set comes with.
Apparently the Ironhide/Prowl 2 pack was a joke that someone apparently thought was a good idea to do. And once they did that, the Brawn/Ratchet 2 pack was inevitable.
My first trauma with Transformers was: Reading Marvel's Transformers Generation 2 comic issue 12 "A Rage in Heaven" I've never seen such a brutal and gruesome death of a beloved character
Duke was supposed to Die in the GI Joe movie and get the old switchero with Lt Falcon voiced by Don Johnson I believe. However, Prime's sacrifice (and a crap ton of outrage by parents over Prime's death) saved him. They added the little Doc voice over saying "Duke has come out of his coma he is going to be just fine" at the end.
@@patrickfriel7957 Yeah you don't cry like that for a Coma man. They pushed Duke like Hell during the opening so him getting killed Should have been a Sargent Elias Moment. I also think Gung-ho, Alpine and Bazooka were supposed to die too since Sargent Slaughter mentions them when He's kicking Nemesis Enforcer's Ass. Also the way that Arm dropping limply into frame when they free the people from those pods was kinda ominous. I think the GI Joe Movie was originally going to have as Big a Body count as Transformers. Had to make Room for Captain Gridiron and Crew.
I've often wondered why they didn't simply UPGRADE the existing bots into newer, more futuristic forms rather than just killing them off. Have them get shot up, but fix em so they're better and even cooler than before. There was no need to slaughter them like that. The new toys would have sold, the fans would have been happy, and all would have been right with the Transformers world. Did Hasbro learn NOTHING from the reaction to Star Trek The Wrath of Khan?
Yeah, while a lot this video is mostly a joke reaction, I DO think it was a bizarre idea to just kill off a bunch of the OG's to make room for new toys.
Believe me, we thought about that at the time when it happened, and they learned the hard way; that's why they brought Prime back. At least with Star Trek: TWOK they had a plan and you can see it in the last minute of that movie. But now the story behind Hasbro and TF being a mashup of Japanese toy lines is known, and they just thought it was okay to let those older ones go and introduce new ones. You are 100% correct, though: there was no need to kill them off like that because it did hit us hard watching it. The writers warned them, but it was Hasbro's money so they got what they wanted.
AKA the reason Ultra Magnus so much as existing surprises me, cause they had an all white Optimus/Convoy, which had a super armor to make him bigger, so if you're gonna bring back Megatron as Galvatron why not do the same with Optimus Prime as Ultra Magnus? Say the all white form is his spirit or something, and the armor is his new body/upgrade/armor to contain his soul and rejoin them in battle. Lile I'm not dissing Magnus here, I like him and am hella glad that didn't happen, but it outstands me that they didn't make that move as its so damned obvious!
This is hilariously gruesome. These are definitely not made for kids, but collectors. I remember seeing the movie in the theater and hating how easily they were taken out while the Decepticons just walked away.
Funny to see the full spectrum of attitudes about the TF86 movie. At the time, though, a lot of kids were def taken off guard and there was a real backlash. I still feel the pain when I watch the movie but also love it.
You remember it like I do; a theater full kids going crazy when the Dinobots showed up, and then going quiet twenty seconds later when Devastator just stomped them out and took their lunch money.
@@Flashback_Funhouse I was one of those opening weekend watchers, and it's one of those memories that stands out. Me, my best friend Jeff and an audience full of kids. Some of them actually brought their favorite Transformers and were holding them when they went down. Smoke coming out of Prowl's mouth while rock music was playing did something to us and you could hear it in the theater. Even seeing Wheeljack dead got a reaction, and that was a brief shot. There was definitely that "mom comforting sobbing kid" thing going on during Prime's scene; turning gray didn't help. Starscream's death was just unbelievable to us. Blaster saying "sic em!" and unleashing tapes was a HUGE moment; we went crazy. INSANE. The moment in the ship when Prime says "Dinobots!" was another one; that's all we needed to hear. I didn't even know he said "Destroy Devastator!" after that until I watched it on home video a year or so later. Both "behold! Galvatron!" and "arise, Rodimus Prime!" got big reactions, as well as the revelation that Spike now had a son. Blur's introduction (and other Blur moments) got huge laughs; Wreck-Gar and the Junkions did, too. The Spike "cuss" was the moment we all just knew we were watching a R-rated movie and getting away with it. Kup had been on Hot Rod's case for half the movie, so when he says "I knew you had potential, lad" there was a serious vocal objection in the theater; I guess our collective kid logic wasn't going to let him get away with that. There was no way we could have known the movie wouldn't do well theatrically overall; Transformers was on fire, we were packed in there and we were loving it, despite the shocking moments.
Admittedly, I’ve always kind of liked battle, damaged figures and it would make my play more interesting. (For example if I had those figures I’d probably use them in my play anywhere from a damaged war veterans that can’t be repaired due to their parts being so old, to being dead bodies, or slowly turned into zombies due to their injuries)
They're just cashing out as mush as humanly possible on G1 fans, every few years they drip feed slightly better versions for more & more money. Ex: Earthrise Prime & SS86 Prime & much of Earthrise Stuff & other Recent Lines.
That title is ludicrous. Hasbro has a raging hard on for g1 and g1 adjacent parts of the franchise even the more interesting designs are watered down to fit the generation 1 design spec
The 80s had the best toys of any generation to date. Choking hazards? What are those? Politically correct? What’s that? Intricate details? Check. Lots of moving parts? Check. And yes, my friends and I took a hammer to a few Hot Wheels just to create a “junk yard”. I also admittedly melted a David Hasselhoff figurine and blew up many a G.I. Joe. The days of Garbage Pail Kids, Star Wars, M.U.S.C.L.E. Men, Battle Beasts, Rock Lords, Madballs, M.A.S.K., He-Man, Thundercats, and Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future were great. We also had Star Trek: The Next Generation airing on TV. I miss the 80s.
I remember strapping G.I. Joe figures to bottle rockets with my friends. Why did we go so hard on the Joe figures in particular? LOL. But yeah, great times!!
Way back there, my friend Mike got a model rocket set for Christmas, which he immediately tossed aside and kept the electric ignitor and rocket motors. He then brought them over to my house, and we used electrical tape to attach the rocket motors to Hot Wheels cars in our laboratory (dad's garage). I tested mine and it did OK, it flew around like a flaming hornet and smoked the place up, but wasn't too impressive... Mike decided we needed to modify his so it would make more fire and not bounce around in the garage. I used a 3/4 drill bit and a hacksaw to open up the exhaust packing and shorten the cardboard body, you know, so he could fire it off using a BIC lighter. After a couple of minutes, he looked at me and said: "Dude, it ain't gonna work, it needs electric to spark it!" And right on cue the lighter did its magic and fired that rocket motor... With his big fat thumb right in the KAAA-WHOOOSH zone. He burned the end of his thumb black, nearly choked to death, and I made a run for cover to disassociate myself from the @$$whoppin' that we were gonna get. Fortunately it didn't catch a fire in the garage, right beside the Boss 302 that was being restored, or we would've never been heard from again. And on another evening, after watching stuntman Spanky Spangler, I used a ball peen hammer and smashed up a few old Hot Wheels and Matchbox to use as demolition derby or stunt cars. My much older brother went and lied to dad about what I was doing, and I took a "no longer legal" type @$$whoopin' until mom heard it (this was outside) and threatened unmentionable harm to him. Turns out dad misunderstood because my older brother made up some finer details. Most of my best stories end with: "And then dad gave me an @$$whoopin'!" 🤣 Going into the Marines, I wasn't all that scared, I had already survived worse.
Watching Prowl die and that trail of smoke leave his mouth will forever be etched into my brain. That said, im surprised they didnt try to make some sort of snap-on piece to replicate that for these figures.
True 80’s kid here that also grew up on horror movies. So naturally I love these, and hope more come out. Was hard to feel as sad for their deaths when also watching Freddy and Jason. There was no filter for me, and grew up with very eclectic movie / TV tastes, so I got to see so many great things. All of the greats from the silent movie era to current at the time.
Fair enough! I’m a HUGE horror fan now but when the movie came out I was just 9 and not really into it yet. (Not that that was too young for horror back then!), but obviously I see TF86 a lot differently these days! And I love it!
Growing up in the 80’s, enjoyed watching Nightmare on Em Street, Friday the 13, Poltergeist, Hellraiser, Chucky, The Fly 1986, Lost Boys & The Monster Squad.
😳 This is Blasphemous!! Hasbro Dares disrespect some of the top OG original G1 Autobots! What next all the Decepticons who died at the hands of Optimus Prime! Oh yeah that's right most of them lived! 😮😒
What I’ve learned in my short time making videos about Transformers is every single fandom thinks Hasbro is somehow screwing them. This video was just for fun. Thanks for the engagement! 😎
i saw the cartoon a few years after its release on VHS and it was traumatic. I have always loved ironhide and ratchet... and them getting blasted at the very beginning of the movie was the worst. And then i saw swoop being crushed by a boulder and it made me cry out. hasbro is really trying to make us relieve the trauma again.
I bought the Ironhide and Prowl set, Ironhide got parts swaps with the SS86 Ironhide, Toyhax window stickers and customs on the leftovers, Prowl I had someone make a new chest and head piece sure it cost money but no more dead characters! Not gonna go through that with the Ratchet and Brawn set though I really think it's sick stuff. I was grounded by my parents when the '86 movie came out so never got to see it at the cinema.
My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think I just didn't go because my family didn't go to the theater much, but remember renting it for sure. So someone just 3D printed a new chest piece? That's pretty cool actually.
I'm hearing this a lot, and I guess it IS pretty true. I expect eventually they will start revisiting a lot of those characters, but there's definitely not much to offer to date.
Whats annoying is that they barely even released prowl period and the time they so its a jacked version. On top of that they release the Iron Hide we wanted with proper colors and no clear plastic but they release him Jacked up.
It would have been way more acceptable if these figures had replaceable chests and possibly heads. When transformed they just have those dumb holes in the front.
when I saw both those figure sets in the store and it angered me that I had to complain about it and made sure by standing transformers figure shoppers are on the same page, luckily every single one of them agreed, not to mention hasbro is making a toy for kids of a grusome downfall of 4 iconic characters and kids can still watch Transformers G1 on free streaming sites, these figures being made is way out of line here.
Why no plastic effect piece to show Prowl being burned alive from the inside with the smoke pouring outta his mouth, Hasbro? I mean don't just give us the papercut...give us the lemon juice as well! Also...how the hell did Megatron get so powerful between the movie release day and when I saw him on TV last Saturday morning?!? He's shot plenty of Transformers in both modes and never done so much damage. Somebody needs to check his lubricant for steroids...
I was 7 years old, sitting in the theater with my dad, back in 1986, armed with my large popcorn and large Mountain Dew, and will never forget that shuttle scene. That scene, with that bada*s Instruments Of Destruction, by N R.G., playing in the background, has never left my mind/memory. Horribly brutal scene for a child to see, but so awesome at the same time! The previous two years within the TV show, or any other kids TV show, we never got anything like that on TV, in terms of violence, let alone that killer a*s song, or the rest of that movie's killer Soundtrack, either. It was awesome!!! I know it was extremely horrible seeing anyone die within that Franchise back then, especially Optimus Prime, but it was still awesome AF!!! I'll never forget after Optimus died, my dad was wanting to leave, and just say to H**l with the rest of the movie. Lol. He loved Optimus that much, too. I'll also never forget, back in 2009, when I took him to see Revenge Of The Fallen, after I had already gone to see it once before that, but I remember telling him before hand that something was going to happen to Optimus, but it was all going to be okay. He loved Optimus so much, especially after the 2007 movie, that I was afraid he'd walk out of the theater, before seeing the actual ending to that movie, too. Lol. Good times, man, good times. 🙂
@Flashback_Funhouse You're welcome. Brought back a ton of great memories! I had to have sudden/emergency brain surgery, back in September of 2020, and due to that surgery, my short-term memory is forever gone, meaning I can no longer remember anything, or very, very little from earlier in the day. However, my long-term memory is still fully intact, so I can, thankfully, remember everything from that long ago, which I am so thankful for. The best memories are from my past anyhow, since everything in the World is now crap, so who wants to recall anything recent anymore anyhow? LOL!!! Seriously though, thanks for the great video, and for the walk back down memory lane as well. 🙂👍
I think you'll start to see more. Nostalgia is the name of the game these days in toylines. My kids grew up in the Bayverse era and will start to really want new versions of those guys in the near future. It's like how the retro gaming market shifted from Atari to NEW to now N64 and beyond as the hottest items.
Have you ever thought of if they would bring a dead version of Optimus Prime, or maybe a zombie version? Since you're showing these guys, I just suddenly thought if Hasbro would have the nerves to do that. What do you think? It would be interesting to see how Optimus Prime would look.
I know that Amazon is selling an Earthrise version of Dead Optimus Prime, if I've heard that it's only sold from Amazon. I've seen pictures of it on Amazon.
You're right at the beginning. I preordered the 2 pack of Earthrise Ironhide and Prowl because I no longer have a Prowl, and Amazon cancelled MY shipment (without notice). I that in store, but it only has Prowl - at the worst possible moment in TF history. I'm like - "Really Hasbro?" No telling how long, if ever, there's a normal Prowl. Makes me wish I'd just gotten the Siege version. Boy sometimes they sure make it difficult for some that just want the original Ark crew.
LOL I am also GenX and I only got the prowl in a trade... even to this day, the memory of he movie means I have a hard time looking at him. I didn't realize hey came wiih blast effects, I might have to go get em' for the FX
Not to mention the “ alternative universe” Optimus prime, which is literally just his corpse from the movie… playing with the scene that ruined my childhood, wow
i adore these morbid little toys and hope hasbro does more for other iconic deaths from the tf multiverse. like Beast Wars Dinobot, Animated Prowl, DOTM Ironhide, etc.
I like these sets. Only way to get these molds without the breakable clear plastic (except for brawn ofc) I don’t notice the battle damage as much as I could, oh yeah, and 💥BLAST EFFECTS 💥
_Just_ battle damage would be one thing (cooler-looking than that tacky drybrushing), it's that they're mid-death, expressions and all, forever tied to that specific scene. Bit of a shame for the characters that aren't even available in any other form, like Prowl.
I didn't realize they had gruesome death expressions and that crazy box art too! Are Hasbro and Takara a bunch of sadists? 😄 I was probably too young to see the movie in theaters. I loved those characters so I can't imagine how I would've reacted. And yeah, it wasn't necessary to kill off the original characters! Have a rotating cast or something.
I'd be spewing if my friends had spoiled The Movie for me (Thankfully I saw it in the theatre). My older brother saw all of the great 80's movies when I was too young to watch them, and when he got home, he would spoil the best moments from Predator, Robocop, Beetlejuice, Alien, Highlander, Terminator, Total Recall... 😣 I love all of those movies today, but would have adored them even more if I had been able to see them unspoiled as intended. I honestly didn't remember much from my first viewing of The Movie, except for Unicron's transformation, Starscreams demise, and the scene where Prime dies and turns grey. That last one was very memorable, but I wasn't emotional about it. Definitely not crying. I was seven. Years later, they played The Movie on TV as four 20 minute episodes, so I dubbed it onto a cassette, and that's when I became actually familiar with it. Nothing gets me quite as nostalgic as The Movie.
I just didn't go to the theater a lot as a kid, so most of the movies I watched were rented. And you know how long it took for movies to make it to the rental stores in the 80s! So I probably just asked them to tell me all about it anyway. But I do vaguely remember it just feeling really dark to me when I finally rented it and saw it for the first time. My best film memories in the 80s for the most part are the HBO Feature Presentations. That theme music still gets me super nostalgic today!!
I think that it suck a lot that Hasbro would bring back some old characters in thier last moment of liife in toy mode which re-opens our wounds from the movie when it was released in theaters and on home video. Surely Hasbro wants to make money but they didin't have to go that far to make the saddening facial expressions and battle damage of the charactrers which will only last a moment of us owning these "86 Studio" edition of the toys of which they only lasted a moment before being discontinued for new characters and toys to replace them.
These sets are awesome. I'm hoping for the damaged/ dead Decepticons that were thrown out of Astrotrain. A battle damaged SS 86 Optimus Prime and Megatron would be great too.
5:25 "Depending on your age" I was 14 in 86 so I fricken loved it. No trauma here. I hated how all the characters were bulletproof & 100% invincible in the cartoon. The deaths in the movie were totally realistic considering it was a war lasting for centuries. I knew Optimus was going to die so I was looking forward to it. But I don't understand why anybody would want toys of the dead characters. I totally love the movie but I don't need a toy from every single frame. I won't be recreating those scenes so I just don't get it. These things are too damn expensive now to be double dipping just for 1 gunshot hole and a different face. I also passed on the dead "alternate universe" Optimus Prime.
Definitely an age thing. A lot of kids my age (10) and younger saw it and freaked out. But were I a teen (and as an adult now of course) I think it’s pretty awesome. And yeah, just poking a hole in the chest and changing the face of a mold is really just a cash grab aimed at nostalgia collectors.
Point of contention: Duke *was* supposed to die in the GI Joe movie but after the Prime backlash, they added the "Duke's alive!" ADR'd radio message right at the end.
I honestly don't remember how I felt when I watched my favorite transformers get slaughtered, nor the death of Optimus Prime. This likely means I got so effed up traumatized about it that I placed a psychological block not even Thor could remove.
Would have loved those toys as a kid. I never felt trauma from the 86 film. It just felt like a joyously daring evolution of the potential for storytelling in Transformers. Then...series 3 happened.
My entire G1 collection plus our GI Joe collection found out that once a 12 year old boy gets a BB Gun they become the invading (and losing) backyard army force. The money I shot up back then.... 😭
I’d read that they wrote in some deletion scenes in the GI Joe the Movie movie, but after the reaction to Transformers the Movie, they did some rewrites. Hasbro was not expecting the reaction they got at all when they got flooded with angry letters about the loss of characters, the brutality of the movie, and the two cuss words in it.
The deaths are a major part of why the movie has such lasting power. Although I found primes death moving, it didn't affect me too badly at the time. What did affect me was cobra commander's demise in GI Joe the movie. I felt terrible for him. He spends the entire movie getting ganged up on by his supposed friends and finally goes through a hideous and irreversible mutation process as he continuously has an existential crisis about losing his mind, while no one gave a cr@p about him. That messed with my mind as s kid.
I really need to re-watch the GI Joe movie! Lots of folks have mentioned in the comments and it has been such a long time! It's def on my viewing list. Thanks for your comment!!
Transformer the movie is the movie that made me grow a beard after watching it. I was never the same. Us gen X kids suffered a lot of loss with this one.
It's not that deep bro. They're very minimal new tools for existing toys that will sell due to the demand for the regular version, then they can cause double dipping later when they repack those original toys. It's a way to make more money out of the moulds with minimum effort and keep the table clear to sell even more later. It's a work.
Yeah, Mainframe handled this a lot better. Beast Wars/Beast Machines wasn't cruel like that, Dinobot's sacrifice was probably the most heroic I've ever seen, including stuff supposedly for adults. “…a warrior STILL!” is probably my favorite dramatic line ever. Then he had a supposedly controlled clone come back & still have honor. Terrorsaur & Scorponok are the only ones that got shafted, but at least they're Predacons. The most harsh thing they did was Rhinox going bad, but he also had a reason to think Megatron might have been right, & regretted it after joining the Matrix. Plus it was kind of foreshadowed when he became a Predacon back in Beast Wars. But it was also teaching a lesson how anyone can go bad for good reasons. As Rattrap said, “he wasn't just one of us, he was the best of us.” Of course, I guess you could say the cost of the reformatting of Cybertron was pretty harsh too…
i mean i think its neat, the main issue i have is how lazy it is for the figures to just be “this guy but dead”, it was fun with the prime recolor but eehhhh, sorta lost the charm.
I watched “ The Shootist “ with John Wayne some time after seeing the Transformers movie. I had some PTSD from the Transformers movie it came flooding back watching John Wayne die. In the shootist a very much over the hill John Wayne gets into a gunfight where he’s killed. Prime was always John Wayne to me. Stalwart, immovable constant and to see him killed was unsettling
Many of us never got a body to mourn as it where for our favorite transformers because they just ghosted them and told us they were killed of screen or at some point in the time between the show and the movie like my favorite Sideswipe Damn you Hasbro!!!! Damn you!!!!
01:40 "Until we meet again". -Skeleton LOL 04:40 lost a good friend to a loaded shot gun before all this. When all these characters died I was shocked but I already knew life went on. A funny commentary though.
The real trauma is Hasbro making the damaged Prowl the ONLY Prowl we can find in this day and age.
Yes!!
I have a few prowl from the Seige line i think or eàrthrise. They were everywhere when first released
Aliexpress has knockoffs that are almost exactly the same as the original.
@@Poolplayer34unreliable quality control
@@IMosuGoji as if Hasbro's own QC is reliable
Hasbro: But the 80s movie is iconic!
Everyone else: NOT FOR THAT!
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I would argue it is for that
The 80s movie is iconic *_because_* of actual consequences faced by characters that American children hadn't seen in cartoons prior. In spite of those consequences, words said prior provide more weight to the decisions (both heroic and villainous) made by characters.
Wouldve been cool to have alternate heads and chest pieces so you could still have a normal version of each toy.
Especially with prowl, a smoking effect for the eyes wouldve been cool.
I find it funny that the regular Ratchet and Brawn were one of those things I saw and just bought, and now can't find it anywhere. Now, it's just that damage pack over and over again!
Display these while blasting Instruments of Destruction in the room.
A Starscream that transforms into a pile of ash would be very hard for Hasbro to pull off.
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Maybe if they brought back kreo, they could do something like that 😂
It would just be gray starscream
"Such heroic nonsense." - Megatron
He could be a 3d puzzle.
As a decepticon collector I cannot wait for the grey dead Optimus Prime repaint from studio 86.
You are a sick puppy 😂. But yeah, that's probably coming.
I’m a Decepticon collector too, well Megatron and the only autobots I would buy would be the dead ones. 😝
Alternative universe Optimus prime:
Same XD
We all know it’s coming! But I hope it’s a Pulse Exclusive! Kids (Me) don’t need to see that on the shelves! 😢
Its ironic because the only reason so many beloved characters were even killed off in the film were because Hasbro noticed their toys weren't selling as well as they expected and now we've come full circle in the worst way possible.
There's irony, but not for that reason. They weren't killed off because they weren't selling; all of TF started selling as soon as they hit. It took a long time to make a feature length animated movie like this, so the movie was being developed when and produced while we were still watching the first season.
Hasbro decided to eliminate the characters from the '84 line because they figured that we would have all of those Transformers by the time the movie came out (we did) and they wanted to get them out of the way. The problem they had is that between Marvel and Sunbow, they'd created characters we cared about. That wasn't the best move and the writers warned them. My best friend and I were in a theater packed with kids and these scenes hit hard, so hard that season 3 didn't work as much for us. They brought Prime back because of that irony: they thought we wouldn't care, but the move to kill him and the others made Hasbro realize how much we did. Now how that realization led to these morbid figures is what I'd like to know.
@@hironoshozo you forgot it was also hasbro/takaras way to completely step away from the last of the diaclones line
@@tf8767 I’d be with that and understand that they were phasing in their own homegrown line if it wasn’t for them bringing in the Diaclone Powered Convoy, changing his color and making him Ultra Magnus. They weren’t fully moving away yet, so if Megs could be Galvatron then Optimus could’ve been an upgraded Prime (which ended up happening anyway). The shift wasn’t the issue, it was how the Hasbro execs handled it, and ignoring the writers who guided the Joe and TF shows to success when they warned them about killing characters wasn’t the best move.
@@hironoshozo ultra magnus was not supposed to exist , he was used for temporary box art and the ceo's liked it so much they actually wrote him in theres a whole youtube video about it
@ I’m aware of all of that, but Magnus was on the shelves right next to the Springer and Hot Rod I got that summer, and all of the others that came out. They were all out by late May when my school year ended and that one stayed on shelves with the rest of them. And again, it’s not the transition of the toy line, it’s how they handled it; while my friend and I were a little bummed out by Prime’s death, there were younger kids in there and we heard and saw them reacting very differently. Ron Friedman had a different transition concept and Hasbro made an executive decision to kill, something they had to do damage control for later. The TF franchise itself pulled through and survived but not without them having to “fix” that first.
"A step too far," you thought, as you bought them anyway, yes? 😉
What cracks me up the most is the box art that depicts Ratchet and Brawn in their death-throes. All we need now is for Hasbro to include a letter that says, "Hey, remember when Artax sank into the swamp and died?"
Yep!!
When they make a new windcharger, get ready for another childhood trauma 2 pack
Dead Windcharger and Wheeljack is perfect lmao
Hate it's G1 fans?
Bruh that's the part they've fed the most in the last couple of years.
Imagine what it was to be an Unicron trilogy fan before Legacy
That's exactly what I thought when i Read the discription
Definitely being hyperbolic with the title! 🤣. But it's also very true that nostalgia seems to be where the big money is these days, so they cater to it more than they ever have. Totally get that!
@@Flashback_Funhouse I'm not oppose of alot of the new modern g1 characters in the mainline, I'm just annoyed that because of 86 being a part of the studio series line it's just overshadowed the live action movie figures because the line was originally for the live action movie characters in the toy form (if you don't believe me, then just remember that from these two years 2023 and 2024 the only bayverse figures that come out was a core class dotm bumblebee, which was already a laserbeak repaint, the 15th anniversary desepticons 4 pack, rotf 15 anniversary autobots pack with only prime, Jetfire and the arcee triplets being encluded, and Mohawk, which is the only one New mould from all of these)
@@user-cp8nk7yq1s So I had sons at the perfect time for the Bayverse era and have a ton of Transformers from that time (well, they're my sons', but I'm taking good care of them for them so they will always have them!). They used to drive me nuts because I felt they were over-engineered or a little too complex, partially because I would just get handed a Megatron and told to Transform it during play!! But they've definitely grown on me, and some of the designs were really cool. I imagine EVENTUALLY people will get more nostalgic for that era and we will get more updated releases. One can hope!
@Flashback_Funhouse Nostalgia for Bayformers is already happening...how unfortunate.
when I watched this movie I was yelling "NO THEY CAN'T DIE NO! WHY?" and I was heart broken for such a long time
It's funny how a lot of folks today just don't get how hard it did hit a lot of kids at the time.
“Does hasbro hate g1 fans”
“Your greed is ruining the economy” type sentence
Prowl hanging in the box with a slumped posture and an expression of pure suffering and agony is so wrong and yet so funny at the same time
lol FACTS!
I'm GenZ kid, and I understand gen x trauma, and they went too far
I appreciate the solidarity!! Also subbed to your channel. The stop motion vids are great! Keep it up!!
I actually kinda like these 2 packs in a weird way. They go on sale pretty frequently so I can get 2 figures for all the price of a Voyager. And I just use them as "battle damage" versions and instead of dying versions. Also no clear plastic on Prowl, Ironhide, or Ratchet so that automatically makes me like them. I'm also a big fan of the purple blast effects each set comes with.
They are solidly built figures for sure! And you do get TONS of blast effects which is particularly useful if you're posing, etc.
Apparently the Ironhide/Prowl 2 pack was a joke that someone apparently thought was a good idea to do. And once they did that, the Brawn/Ratchet 2 pack was inevitable.
That's hilarious!!
My first trauma with Transformers was:
Reading Marvel's Transformers Generation 2 comic issue 12 "A Rage in Heaven"
I've never seen such a brutal and gruesome death of a beloved character
Yeah i read some g1 and g2 comic and digital comic books its crazy cool
I’m currently trying to collect the g2 comic run to read them. For now just reading them online.
These should have came with swappable chest plates! Huge missed opportunity! Especially since we can't find some of them without battle damage.
Yeah, big miss on that one! Now they're pretty much one-trick ponies.
I know it's all tongue in cheek, but the sad part is that these are more show accurate than their, erm... "Undamaged" counterparts, so to speak.
They can still do windcharger and wheeljack too, there’s also the zombie prime from the show with that eye sticking out.
Duke was supposed to Die in the GI Joe movie and get the old switchero with Lt Falcon voiced by Don Johnson I believe. However, Prime's sacrifice (and a crap ton of outrage by parents over Prime's death) saved him. They added the little Doc voice over saying "Duke has come out of his coma he is going to be just fine" at the end.
I never knew that! That's really funny actually!
@Flashback_Funhouse it also a terrible redub during that whole scene where scarlett says he's in a coma to replace he's dead
@@patrickfriel7957 Yeah you don't cry like that for a Coma man. They pushed Duke like Hell during the opening so him getting killed Should have been a Sargent Elias Moment. I also think Gung-ho, Alpine and Bazooka were supposed to die too since Sargent Slaughter mentions them when He's kicking Nemesis Enforcer's Ass. Also the way that Arm dropping limply into frame when they free the people from those pods was kinda ominous. I think the GI Joe Movie was originally going to have as Big a Body count as Transformers. Had to make Room for Captain Gridiron and Crew.
PRIMUS DAMNNIT
Doc fixed him....cope
I've often wondered why they didn't simply UPGRADE the existing bots into newer, more futuristic forms rather than just killing them off. Have them get shot up, but fix em so they're better and even cooler than before. There was no need to slaughter them like that. The new toys would have sold, the fans would have been happy, and all would have been right with the Transformers world. Did Hasbro learn NOTHING from the reaction to Star Trek The Wrath of Khan?
Yeah, while a lot this video is mostly a joke reaction, I DO think it was a bizarre idea to just kill off a bunch of the OG's to make room for new toys.
Believe me, we thought about that at the time when it happened, and they learned the hard way; that's why they brought Prime back. At least with Star Trek: TWOK they had a plan and you can see it in the last minute of that movie. But now the story behind Hasbro and TF being a mashup of Japanese toy lines is known, and they just thought it was okay to let those older ones go and introduce new ones. You are 100% correct, though: there was no need to kill them off like that because it did hit us hard watching it. The writers warned them, but it was Hasbro's money so they got what they wanted.
AKA the reason Ultra Magnus so much as existing surprises me, cause they had an all white Optimus/Convoy, which had a super armor to make him bigger, so if you're gonna bring back Megatron as Galvatron why not do the same with Optimus Prime as Ultra Magnus? Say the all white form is his spirit or something, and the armor is his new body/upgrade/armor to contain his soul and rejoin them in battle.
Lile I'm not dissing Magnus here, I like him and am hella glad that didn't happen, but it outstands me that they didn't make that move as its so damned obvious!
In other words, Beast Wars Transmetals, yes.
This is hilariously gruesome. These are definitely not made for kids, but collectors. I remember seeing the movie in the theater and hating how easily they were taken out while the Decepticons just walked away.
Funny to see the full spectrum of attitudes about the TF86 movie. At the time, though, a lot of kids were def taken off guard and there was a real backlash. I still feel the pain when I watch the movie but also love it.
@@Flashback_Funhouse I was not one of those kids, but I look back now and go "they went down to eadily"
@@JoybuzzerX Well, they went down too easily because they lost plot armor and had to make way for the new toys....er...characters....
You remember it like I do; a theater full kids going crazy when the Dinobots showed up, and then going quiet twenty seconds later when Devastator just stomped them out and took their lunch money.
@@Flashback_Funhouse I was one of those opening weekend watchers, and it's one of those memories that stands out. Me, my best friend Jeff and an audience full of kids. Some of them actually brought their favorite Transformers and were holding them when they went down. Smoke coming out of Prowl's mouth while rock music was playing did something to us and you could hear it in the theater. Even seeing Wheeljack dead got a reaction, and that was a brief shot. There was definitely that "mom comforting sobbing kid" thing going on during Prime's scene; turning gray didn't help. Starscream's death was just unbelievable to us. Blaster saying "sic em!" and unleashing tapes was a HUGE moment; we went crazy. INSANE. The moment in the ship when Prime says "Dinobots!" was another one; that's all we needed to hear. I didn't even know he said "Destroy Devastator!" after that until I watched it on home video a year or so later.
Both "behold! Galvatron!" and "arise, Rodimus Prime!" got big reactions, as well as the revelation that Spike now had a son. Blur's introduction (and other Blur moments) got huge laughs; Wreck-Gar and the Junkions did, too. The Spike "cuss" was the moment we all just knew we were watching a R-rated movie and getting away with it. Kup had been on Hot Rod's case for half the movie, so when he says "I knew you had potential, lad" there was a serious vocal objection in the theater; I guess our collective kid logic wasn't going to let him get away with that. There was no way we could have known the movie wouldn't do well theatrically overall; Transformers was on fire, we were packed in there and we were loving it, despite the shocking moments.
Hasbro evidently hated us when they took the G1 transformers off the shelf after the movie
Admittedly, I’ve always kind of liked battle, damaged figures and it would make my play more interesting.
(For example if I had those figures I’d probably use them in my play anywhere from a damaged war veterans that can’t be repaired due to their parts being so old, to being dead bodies, or slowly turned into zombies due to their injuries)
They're just cashing out as mush as humanly possible on G1 fans, every few years they drip feed slightly better versions for more & more money. Ex: Earthrise Prime & SS86 Prime & much of Earthrise Stuff & other Recent Lines.
I except the nostalgia shift to come fairly soon to something like Beast Wars...unfortunately.
That title is ludicrous. Hasbro has a raging hard on for g1 and g1 adjacent parts of the franchise even the more interesting designs are watered down to fit the generation 1 design spec
It absolutely is!!😎 Nostalgia spends money and they're throwing everything they have right now at the G1 fans. That will eventually shift.
The 80s had the best toys of any generation to date. Choking hazards? What are those? Politically correct? What’s that? Intricate details? Check. Lots of moving parts? Check. And yes, my friends and I took a hammer to a few Hot Wheels just to create a “junk yard”. I also admittedly melted a David Hasselhoff figurine and blew up many a G.I. Joe.
The days of Garbage Pail Kids, Star Wars, M.U.S.C.L.E. Men, Battle Beasts, Rock Lords, Madballs, M.A.S.K., He-Man, Thundercats, and Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future were great. We also had Star Trek: The Next Generation airing on TV. I miss the 80s.
I remember strapping G.I. Joe figures to bottle rockets with my friends. Why did we go so hard on the Joe figures in particular? LOL. But yeah, great times!!
Way back there, my friend Mike got a model rocket set for Christmas, which he immediately tossed aside and kept the electric ignitor and rocket motors. He then brought them over to my house, and we used electrical tape to attach the rocket motors to Hot Wheels cars in our laboratory (dad's garage). I tested mine and it did OK, it flew around like a flaming hornet and smoked the place up, but wasn't too impressive... Mike decided we needed to modify his so it would make more fire and not bounce around in the garage. I used a 3/4 drill bit and a hacksaw to open up the exhaust packing and shorten the cardboard body, you know, so he could fire it off using a BIC lighter. After a couple of minutes, he looked at me and said: "Dude, it ain't gonna work, it needs electric to spark it!" And right on cue the lighter did its magic and fired that rocket motor... With his big fat thumb right in the KAAA-WHOOOSH zone. He burned the end of his thumb black, nearly choked to death, and I made a run for cover to disassociate myself from the @$$whoppin' that we were gonna get. Fortunately it didn't catch a fire in the garage, right beside the Boss 302 that was being restored, or we would've never been heard from again. And on another evening, after watching stuntman Spanky Spangler, I used a ball peen hammer and smashed up a few old Hot Wheels and Matchbox to use as demolition derby or stunt cars. My much older brother went and lied to dad about what I was doing, and I took a "no longer legal" type @$$whoopin' until mom heard it (this was outside) and threatened unmentionable harm to him. Turns out dad misunderstood because my older brother made up some finer details. Most of my best stories end with: "And then dad gave me an @$$whoopin'!" 🤣 Going into the Marines, I wasn't all that scared, I had already survived worse.
lol. Still have my Garbage Pail Kids card collection.
@@izzy3166 Remember the Garbage Pail Kids movie? 🤣 It was a hot mess, but I kinda liked it. They also made little figures of the GPK.
@@OneLastCrusader lol. And the cartoon wasn’t all that great either.
Watching Prowl die and that trail of smoke leave his mouth will forever be etched into my brain. That said, im surprised they didnt try to make some sort of snap-on piece to replicate that for these figures.
True 80’s kid here that also grew up on horror movies. So naturally I love these, and hope more come out.
Was hard to feel as sad for their deaths when also watching Freddy and Jason. There was no filter for me, and grew up with very eclectic movie / TV tastes, so I got to see so many great things. All of the greats from the silent movie era to current at the time.
Fair enough! I’m a HUGE horror fan now but when the movie came out I was just 9 and not really into it yet. (Not that that was too young for horror back then!), but obviously I see TF86 a lot differently these days! And I love it!
@@Flashback_Funhouse I started watching horror as far back as I can remember. I was 7 when the Transformers movie came out. 😅
Growing up in the 80’s, enjoyed watching Nightmare on Em Street, Friday the 13, Poltergeist, Hellraiser, Chucky, The Fly 1986, Lost Boys & The Monster Squad.
Prime's death was rough but at least he put up a fight, poor Iron Hide was straight up executed.
😳 This is Blasphemous!! Hasbro Dares disrespect some of the top OG original G1 Autobots! What next all the Decepticons who died at the hands of Optimus Prime! Oh yeah that's right most of them lived! 😮😒
Hasbro: *panders 95% of its Generations product to G1ers*
G1ers: “WHY DOES HASBRO HATE US??!?”
What I’ve learned in my short time making videos about Transformers is every single fandom thinks Hasbro is somehow screwing them. This video was just for fun. Thanks for the engagement! 😎
@ you got it my dude. Stay cool
As a kid I would reenact the shuttle death scene when I played with my G1 figures. Having battle damaged figures is a great option as a toy.
Definitely saved us the time of doing it ourselves!!
@@Flashback_FunhouseI think of the GI Joes I either took the legs off at the knee joints or lit on fire just to have a battle damage affect.
i saw the cartoon a few years after its release on VHS and it was traumatic. I have always loved ironhide and ratchet... and them getting blasted at the very beginning of the movie was the worst. And then i saw swoop being crushed by a boulder and it made me cry out.
hasbro is really trying to make us relieve the trauma again.
They just gotta create a toy for every frame of G1 media before they move on I think. 😂😂
I bought the Ironhide and Prowl set, Ironhide got parts swaps with the SS86 Ironhide, Toyhax window stickers and customs on the leftovers, Prowl I had someone make a new chest and head piece sure it cost money but no more dead characters! Not gonna go through that with the Ratchet and Brawn set though I really think it's sick stuff.
I was grounded by my parents when the '86 movie came out so never got to see it at the cinema.
My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think I just didn't go because my family didn't go to the theater much, but remember renting it for sure. So someone just 3D printed a new chest piece? That's pretty cool actually.
@ yep I saw it on VHS a longtime after.
For Prowl both the head and chest were cast pieces with resin and theLazyEyebrows headlight insert
We had to rent the VHS 100’s of times from Erols 😂
I can't wait for the dead Windcharger and Wheeljack two-pack. Hasbro doesn't hate its G1 fans as much as Bayverse fans.
I'm hearing this a lot, and I guess it IS pretty true. I expect eventually they will start revisiting a lot of those characters, but there's definitely not much to offer to date.
Even Michael bay himself hates his own fans.
@Remle4 that's true
Hasbro's moto has always been " F&(*% THEM WHERE IS MY MONEY ! " use the lowest amount for the highest of price and F the buyer !
Whats annoying is that they barely even released prowl period and the time they so its a jacked version. On top of that they release the Iron Hide we wanted with proper colors and no clear plastic but they release him Jacked up.
It would have been way more acceptable if these figures had replaceable chests and possibly heads. When transformed they just have those dumb holes in the front.
when I saw both those figure sets in the store and it angered me that I had to complain about it and made sure by standing transformers figure shoppers are on the same page, luckily every single one of them agreed, not to mention hasbro is making a toy for kids of a grusome downfall of 4 iconic characters and kids can still watch Transformers G1 on free streaming sites, these figures being made is way out of line here.
I did not grow up in the 80s or 90s but I will always love g1 and the movie did scare me as well 😂
Remember Takara recolored MP-01 Optimus Prime as Sleep Mode
New ideas Hasbro why I'm full of them!!! they can even do some of the G1 characters that didn't have a G2 in a G2 format or even a G3 format
I had a sabertooth figure with that he man damage feature. His abs could switch from undamaged to a ab section that had wolverine claw slash mark
He-Man really had some of the coolest figures!
Why no plastic effect piece to show Prowl being burned alive from the inside with the smoke pouring outta his mouth, Hasbro? I mean don't just give us the papercut...give us the lemon juice as well!
Also...how the hell did Megatron get so powerful between the movie release day and when I saw him on TV last Saturday morning?!? He's shot plenty of Transformers in both modes and never done so much damage. Somebody needs to check his lubricant for steroids...
Yeah, it was pretty odd to see those single shot kill shots. Pretty sure they got shot quite a bit in the cartoons!
"Well, that's our problem. We had our guns set to 'tickle' this whole time."
I was 7 years old, sitting in the theater with my dad, back in 1986, armed with my large popcorn and large Mountain Dew, and will never forget that shuttle scene. That scene, with that bada*s Instruments Of Destruction, by N R.G., playing in the background, has never left my mind/memory. Horribly brutal scene for a child to see, but so awesome at the same time! The previous two years within the TV show, or any other kids TV show, we never got anything like that on TV, in terms of violence, let alone that killer a*s song, or the rest of that movie's killer Soundtrack, either. It was awesome!!! I know it was extremely horrible seeing anyone die within that Franchise back then, especially Optimus Prime, but it was still awesome AF!!! I'll never forget after Optimus died, my dad was wanting to leave, and just say to H**l with the rest of the movie. Lol. He loved Optimus that much, too. I'll also never forget, back in 2009, when I took him to see Revenge Of The Fallen, after I had already gone to see it once before that, but I remember telling him before hand that something was going to happen to Optimus, but it was all going to be okay. He loved Optimus so much, especially after the 2007 movie, that I was afraid he'd walk out of the theater, before seeing the actual ending to that movie, too. Lol. Good times, man, good times. 🙂
I LOVE this! Thanks so much for sharing! I hope lots of people see this comment. These types of stories are why I love this community so much!
@Flashback_Funhouse You're welcome. Brought back a ton of great memories! I had to have sudden/emergency brain surgery, back in September of 2020, and due to that surgery, my short-term memory is forever gone, meaning I can no longer remember anything, or very, very little from earlier in the day. However, my long-term memory is still fully intact, so I can, thankfully, remember everything from that long ago, which I am so thankful for. The best memories are from my past anyhow, since everything in the World is now crap, so who wants to recall anything recent anymore anyhow? LOL!!! Seriously though, thanks for the great video, and for the walk back down memory lane as well. 🙂👍
You forgot the model glue that made crazzzzzy trails to make FIRE 😂😂
They should have had the addition to where the smoke can come out of Prowl's mouth
They don’t hate you have you seen the state of the bay verse fandom there’s barely any figures for them
I think you'll start to see more. Nostalgia is the name of the game these days in toylines. My kids grew up in the Bayverse era and will start to really want new versions of those guys in the near future. It's like how the retro gaming market shifted from Atari to NEW to now N64 and beyond as the hottest items.
Have you ever thought of if they would bring a dead version of Optimus Prime, or maybe a zombie version? Since you're showing these guys, I just suddenly thought if Hasbro would have the nerves to do that. What do you think? It would be interesting to see how Optimus Prime would look.
There’s a ReAction figure called “Dead Optimus Prime”. 😂😂😂
I know that Amazon is selling an Earthrise version of Dead Optimus Prime, if I've heard that it's only sold from Amazon. I've seen pictures of it on Amazon.
You're right at the beginning. I preordered the 2 pack of Earthrise Ironhide and Prowl because I no longer have a Prowl, and Amazon cancelled MY shipment (without notice). I that in store, but it only has Prowl - at the worst possible moment in TF history. I'm like - "Really Hasbro?" No telling how long, if ever, there's a normal Prowl. Makes me wish I'd just gotten the Siege version. Boy sometimes they sure make it difficult for some that just want the original Ark crew.
Yeah they’ve really screwed folks over the Prowl specifically. Maybe someone can make an upgrade kit that could fix the damage!
LOL I am also GenX and I only got the prowl in a trade... even to this day, the memory of he movie means I have a hard time looking at him. I didn't realize hey came wiih blast effects, I might have to go get em' for the FX
Yeah both packs come loaded with the blast effects.
Not to mention the “ alternative universe” Optimus prime, which is literally just his corpse from the movie… playing with the scene that ruined my childhood, wow
i adore these morbid little toys and hope hasbro does more for other iconic deaths from the tf multiverse.
like Beast Wars Dinobot, Animated Prowl, DOTM Ironhide, etc.
I’m waiting for that pull apart Jazz!
I like these sets. Only way to get these molds without the breakable clear plastic (except for brawn ofc) I don’t notice the battle damage as much as I could, oh yeah, and 💥BLAST EFFECTS 💥
For the Next Dead they can do... Wheeljack & Windcharger...now that the "Shuttle Assault" scene is done
_Just_ battle damage would be one thing (cooler-looking than that tacky drybrushing), it's that they're mid-death, expressions and all, forever tied to that specific scene. Bit of a shame for the characters that aren't even available in any other form, like Prowl.
Yeah especially the Prowl!!
Missed opportunity to have a starscream and megatron set coming into the shuttle
_mehh...._
Bring on *_Windcharger_* & *_Wheelhack_*
I didn't realize they had gruesome death expressions and that crazy box art too! Are Hasbro and Takara a bunch of sadists? 😄
I was probably too young to see the movie in theaters. I loved those characters so I can't imagine how I would've reacted.
And yeah, it wasn't necessary to kill off the original characters! Have a rotating cast or something.
Agreed on all counts! The box art is pretty dark but also kind of metal!! 😂
1 step to far but you back it and buy them right seems kinda odd why you have them if it hurts you so bad and you just can't believe it makes no since
You DID get that this was mostly tongue-in-cheek, right? I was pretty clear about that. :)
I'd be spewing if my friends had spoiled The Movie for me (Thankfully I saw it in the theatre).
My older brother saw all of the great 80's movies when I was too young to watch them, and when he got home, he would spoil the best moments from Predator, Robocop, Beetlejuice, Alien, Highlander, Terminator, Total Recall... 😣 I love all of those movies today, but would have adored them even more if I had been able to see them unspoiled as intended.
I honestly didn't remember much from my first viewing of The Movie, except for Unicron's transformation, Starscreams demise, and the scene where Prime dies and turns grey.
That last one was very memorable, but I wasn't emotional about it. Definitely not crying. I was seven.
Years later, they played The Movie on TV as four 20 minute episodes, so I dubbed it onto a cassette, and that's when I became actually familiar with it. Nothing gets me quite as nostalgic as The Movie.
I just didn't go to the theater a lot as a kid, so most of the movies I watched were rented. And you know how long it took for movies to make it to the rental stores in the 80s! So I probably just asked them to tell me all about it anyway. But I do vaguely remember it just feeling really dark to me when I finally rented it and saw it for the first time. My best film memories in the 80s for the most part are the HBO Feature Presentations. That theme music still gets me super nostalgic today!!
F Brawn. Taking that shot Megatron was the best scene of his career.
😂😂😂
I think that it suck a lot that Hasbro would bring back some old characters in thier last moment of liife in toy mode which re-opens our wounds from the movie when it was released in theaters and on home video. Surely Hasbro wants to make money but they didin't have to go that far to make the saddening facial expressions and battle damage of the charactrers which will only last a moment of us owning these "86 Studio" edition of the toys of which they only lasted a moment before being discontinued for new characters and toys to replace them.
These sets are awesome. I'm hoping for the damaged/ dead Decepticons that were thrown out of Astrotrain.
A battle damaged SS 86 Optimus Prime and Megatron would be great too.
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13:14 what about aunt Baru, uncle Owen, Biggs and Porkins. Can’t forget about Porkins. 😂
That's like, hey genX, we just released a new Swamp of Sorrows playset for you guys! Includes drowning Artax and crying Atreyu!!!! 😂
😂😂
Doing some shots with them? That sounds like an odd experience
Whining kids were the reason that no one died in the G.I.Joe movie.
Wait…other folks don’t get drunk with their toys? That can’t be true. 😂😂
5:25 "Depending on your age"
I was 14 in 86 so I fricken loved it. No trauma here. I hated how all the characters were bulletproof & 100% invincible in the cartoon. The deaths in the movie were totally realistic considering it was a war lasting for centuries. I knew Optimus was going to die so I was looking forward to it.
But I don't understand why anybody would want toys of the dead characters. I totally love the movie but I don't need a toy from every single frame. I won't be recreating those scenes so I just don't get it. These things are too damn expensive now to be double dipping just for 1 gunshot hole and a different face. I also passed on the dead "alternate universe" Optimus Prime.
Definitely an age thing. A lot of kids my age (10) and younger saw it and freaked out. But were I a teen (and as an adult now of course) I think it’s pretty awesome. And yeah, just poking a hole in the chest and changing the face of a mold is really just a cash grab aimed at nostalgia collectors.
for me, i can use them for recreating their death scene, but also making new ones. yes I play with my transformers and I cannot be stopped
Point of contention: Duke *was* supposed to die in the GI Joe movie but after the Prime backlash, they added the "Duke's alive!" ADR'd radio message right at the end.
I honestly don't remember how I felt when I watched my favorite transformers get slaughtered, nor the death of Optimus Prime. This likely means I got so effed up traumatized about it that I placed a psychological block not even Thor could remove.
Would have loved those toys as a kid. I never felt trauma from the 86 film. It just felt like a joyously daring evolution of the potential for storytelling in Transformers. Then...series 3 happened.
1986 was a trauma-heavy year. It's ok, we'll get through it together.
My entire G1 collection plus our GI Joe collection found out that once a 12 year old boy gets a BB Gun they become the invading (and losing) backyard army force. The money I shot up back then.... 😭
4:37 when i was in the theater i didnt care i think it was good when i was 7
Wow, I never imagined that Hasbro gonna sell corpses of their Characters...
They seem confident G1 fans will buy anything...and I bought them...so.....dammit
I was used to watching anime as a kid where death and violence was pretty common, so Optimus dying was pretty normal for me 😅
Fair.
I’d read that they wrote in some deletion scenes in the GI Joe the Movie movie, but after the reaction to Transformers the Movie, they did some rewrites. Hasbro was not expecting the reaction they got at all when they got flooded with angry letters about the loss of characters, the brutality of the movie, and the two cuss words in it.
Oh boy here comes the childhood trauma with battle damaged autobots
I remember watching this movie. It’s funny how so many “family friendly” movies back then were so cruel and statistic.
I totally agree! Selling dead autobots is just sadistic
The deaths are a major part of why the movie has such lasting power. Although I found primes death moving, it didn't affect me too badly at the time. What did affect me was cobra commander's demise in GI Joe the movie. I felt terrible for him. He spends the entire movie getting ganged up on by his supposed friends and finally goes through a hideous and irreversible mutation process as he continuously has an existential crisis about losing his mind, while no one gave a cr@p about him. That messed with my mind as s kid.
I really need to re-watch the GI Joe movie! Lots of folks have mentioned in the comments and it has been such a long time! It's def on my viewing list. Thanks for your comment!!
11:23 I miss good ol toy commercials. Now all I see are Bratz and Gummy land commercials on UA-cam. 🤦🏻♂️
Is this the equivalent of selling JFK dolls?
lol probably not as bad...but also YES! 🤣
Transformer the movie is the movie that made me grow a beard after watching it. I was never the same. Us gen X kids suffered a lot of loss with this one.
The question is, are they gonna do dead Windcharger and Wheeljack?
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
@Flashback_Funhouse of course!
It's not that deep bro. They're very minimal new tools for existing toys that will sell due to the demand for the regular version, then they can cause double dipping later when they repack those original toys.
It's a way to make more money out of the moulds with minimum effort and keep the table clear to sell even more later. It's a work.
You're right. It definitely ain't this deep!🤣
Hasbro should push it further to give them a grey tone series.
All hails Megatron! 🤯
My GI Joes were attacked by rubber cement and fire. There were no survivors
I kinda wish the G1 Transformers were more cartoon accurate instead of what we got.
Starscream’s toy is gonna be a pile of ashes with a crown included.
You can get these death scene toys but Megatron cannot turn into a gun
Yeah, Mainframe handled this a lot better. Beast Wars/Beast Machines wasn't cruel like that, Dinobot's sacrifice was probably the most heroic I've ever seen, including stuff supposedly for adults. “…a warrior STILL!” is probably my favorite dramatic line ever. Then he had a supposedly controlled clone come back & still have honor. Terrorsaur & Scorponok are the only ones that got shafted, but at least they're Predacons. The most harsh thing they did was Rhinox going bad, but he also had a reason to think Megatron might have been right, & regretted it after joining the Matrix. Plus it was kind of foreshadowed when he became a Predacon back in Beast Wars. But it was also teaching a lesson how anyone can go bad for good reasons. As Rattrap said, “he wasn't just one of us, he was the best of us.” Of course, I guess you could say the cost of the reformatting of Cybertron was pretty harsh too…
i mean i think its neat, the main issue i have is how lazy it is for the figures to just be “this guy but dead”, it was fun with the prime recolor but eehhhh, sorta lost the charm.
"I want dead versions of my favorite Transformers." - No one ever
Unicron "pool set" when?
I watched “ The Shootist “ with John Wayne some time after seeing the Transformers movie. I had some PTSD from the Transformers movie it came flooding back watching John Wayne die. In the shootist a very much over the hill John Wayne gets into a gunfight where he’s killed. Prime was always John Wayne to me. Stalwart, immovable constant and to see him killed was unsettling
Great comparison and very true!
Ok Hasbro, when are you releasing the zombie Cliffjumper figure?
Many of us never got a body to mourn as it where for our favorite transformers because they just ghosted them and told us they were killed of screen or at some point in the time between the show and the movie like my favorite Sideswipe Damn you Hasbro!!!! Damn you!!!!
And now we wait for the Atreyu and Artax Swamps of Sadness toy set.
[Me seeing the thumbnail:] Dang, that was pretty sadistic on their part.
Facts!
01:40 "Until we meet again". -Skeleton LOL 04:40 lost a good friend to a loaded shot gun before all this. When all these characters died I was shocked but I already knew life went on. A funny commentary though.
Sorry to hear about that loss! Life definitely has a way of putting things into perspective. Thanks for watching!!