The 80s movie is iconic *_because_* of actual consequences faced by characters that American children hadn't seen in cartoons prior. In spite of those consequences, words said prior provide more weight to the decisions (both heroic and villainous) made by characters.
Wouldve been cool to have alternate heads and chest pieces so you could still have a normal version of each toy. Especially with prowl, a smoking effect for the eyes wouldve been cool.
I find it funny that the regular Ratchet and Brawn were one of those things I saw and just bought, and now can't find it anywhere. Now, it's just that damage pack over and over again!
Display these while blasting Instruments of Destruction in the room. A Starscream that transforms into a pile of ash would be very hard for Hasbro to pull off.
Hate it's G1 fans? Bruh that's the part they've fed the most in the last couple of years. Imagine what it was to be an Unicron trilogy fan before Legacy
Definitely being hyperbolic with the title! 🤣. But it's also very true that nostalgia seems to be where the big money is these days, so they cater to it more than they ever have. Totally get that!
@@Flashback_Funhouse I'm not oppose of alot of the new modern g1 characters in the mainline, I'm just annoyed that because of 86 being a part of the studio series line it's just overshadowed the live action movie figures because the line was originally for the live action movie characters in the toy form (if you don't believe me, then just remember that from these two years 2023 and 2024 the only bayverse figures that come out was a core class dotm bumblebee, which was already a laserbeak repaint, the 15th anniversary desepticons 4 pack, rotf 15 anniversary autobots pack with only prime, Jetfire and the arcee triplets being encluded, and Mohawk, which is the only one New mould from all of these)
@@user-cp8nk7yq1s So I had sons at the perfect time for the Bayverse era and have a ton of Transformers from that time (well, they're my sons', but I'm taking good care of them for them so they will always have them!). They used to drive me nuts because I felt they were over-engineered or a little too complex, partially because I would just get handed a Megatron and told to Transform it during play!! But they've definitely grown on me, and some of the designs were really cool. I imagine EVENTUALLY people will get more nostalgic for that era and we will get more updated releases. One can hope!
Duke was supposed to Die in the GI Joe movie and get the old switchero with Lt Falcon voiced by Don Johnson I believe. However, Prime's sacrifice (and a crap ton of outrage by parents over Prime's death) saved him. They added the little Doc voice over saying "Duke has come out of his coma he is going to be just fine" at the end.
@@patrickfriel7957 Yeah you don't cry like that for a Coma man. They pushed Duke like Hell during the opening so him getting killed Should have been a Sargent Elias Moment. I also think Gung-ho, Alpine and Bazooka were supposed to die too since Sargent Slaughter mentions them when He's kicking Nemesis Enforcer's Ass. Also the way that Arm dropping limply into frame when they free the people from those pods was kinda ominous. I think the GI Joe Movie was originally going to have as Big a Body count as Transformers. Had to make Room for Captain Gridiron and Crew.
I've often wondered why they didn't simply UPGRADE the existing bots into newer, more futuristic forms rather than just killing them off. Have them get shot up, but fix em so they're better and even cooler than before. There was no need to slaughter them like that. The new toys would have sold, the fans would have been happy, and all would have been right with the Transformers world. Did Hasbro learn NOTHING from the reaction to Star Trek The Wrath of Khan?
Yeah, while a lot this video is mostly a joke reaction, I DO think it was a bizarre idea to just kill off a bunch of the OG's to make room for new toys.
"A step too far," you thought, as you bought them anyway, yes? 😉 What cracks me up the most is the box art that depicts Ratchet and Brawn in their death-throes. All we need now is for Hasbro to include a letter that says, "Hey, remember when Artax sank into the swamp and died?"
This is hilariously gruesome. These are definitely not made for kids, but collectors. I remember seeing the movie in the theater and hating how easily they were taken out while the Decepticons just walked away.
Funny to see the full spectrum of attitudes about the TF86 movie. At the time, though, a lot of kids were def taken off guard and there was a real backlash. I still feel the pain when I watch the movie but also love it.
I actually kinda like these 2 packs in a weird way. They go on sale pretty frequently so I can get 2 figures for all the price of a Voyager. And I just use them as "battle damage" versions and instead of dying versions. Also no clear plastic on Prowl, Ironhide, or Ratchet so that automatically makes me like them. I'm also a big fan of the purple blast effects each set comes with.
That title is ludicrous. Hasbro has a raging hard on for g1 and g1 adjacent parts of the franchise even the more interesting designs are watered down to fit the generation 1 design spec
The 80s had the best toys of any generation to date. Choking hazards? What are those? Politically correct? What’s that? Intricate details? Check. Lots of moving parts? Check. And yes, my friends and I took a hammer to a few Hot Wheels just to create a “junk yard”. I also admittedly melted a David Hasselhoff figurine and blew up many a G.I. Joe. The days of Garbage Pail Kids, Star Wars, M.U.S.C.L.E. Men, Battle Beasts, Rock Lords, Madballs, M.A.S.K., He-Man, Thundercats, and Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future were great. We also had Star Trek: The Next Generation airing on TV. I miss the 80s.
I remember strapping G.I. Joe figures to bottle rockets with my friends. Why did we go so hard on the Joe figures in particular? LOL. But yeah, great times!!
Way back there, my friend Mike got a model rocket set for Christmas, which he immediately tossed aside and kept the electric ignitor and rocket motors. He then brought them over to my house, and we used electrical tape to attach the rocket motors to Hot Wheels cars in our laboratory (dad's garage). I tested mine and it did OK, it flew around like a flaming hornet and smoked the place up, but wasn't too impressive... Mike decided we needed to modify his so it would make more fire and not bounce around in the garage. I used a 3/4 drill bit and a hacksaw to open up the exhaust packing and shorten the cardboard body, you know, so he could fire it off using a BIC lighter. After a couple of minutes, he looked at me and said: "Dude, it ain't gonna work, it needs electric to spark it!" And right on cue the lighter did its magic and fired that rocket motor... With his big fat thumb right in the KAAA-WHOOOSH zone. He burned the end of his thumb black, nearly choked to death, and I made a run for cover to disassociate myself from the @$$whoppin' that we were gonna get. Fortunately it didn't catch a fire in the garage, right beside the Boss 302 that was being restored, or we would've never been heard from again. And on another evening, after watching stuntman Spanky Spangler, I used a ball peen hammer and smashed up a few old Hot Wheels and Matchbox to use as demolition derby or stunt cars. My much older brother went and lied to dad about what I was doing, and I took a "no longer legal" type @$$whoopin' until mom heard it (this was outside) and threatened unmentionable harm to him. Turns out dad misunderstood because my older brother made up some finer details. Most of my best stories end with: "And then dad gave me an @$$whoopin'!" 🤣 Going into the Marines, I wasn't all that scared, I had already survived worse.
They're just cashing out as mush as humanly possible on G1 fans, every few years they drip feed slightly better versions for more & more money. Ex: Earthrise Prime & SS86 Prime & much of Earthrise Stuff & other Recent Lines.
I bought the Ironhide and Prowl set, Ironhide got parts swaps with the SS86 Ironhide, Toyhax window stickers and customs on the leftovers, Prowl I had someone make a new chest and head piece sure it cost money but no more dead characters! Not gonna go through that with the Ratchet and Brawn set though I really think it's sick stuff. I was grounded by my parents when the '86 movie came out so never got to see it at the cinema.
My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think I just didn't go because my family didn't go to the theater much, but remember renting it for sure. So someone just 3D printed a new chest piece? That's pretty cool actually.
Apparently the Ironhide/Prowl 2 pack was a joke that someone apparently thought was a good idea to do. And once they did that, the Brawn/Ratchet 2 pack was inevitable.
I was 7 years old, sitting in the theater with my dad, back in 1986, armed with my large popcorn and large Mountain Dew, and will never forget that shuttle scene. That scene, with that bada*s Instruments Of Destruction, by N R.G., playing in the background, has never left my mind/memory. Horribly brutal scene for a child to see, but so awesome at the same time! The previous two years within the TV show, or any other kids TV show, we never got anything like that on TV, in terms of violence, let alone that killer a*s song, or the rest of that movie's killer Soundtrack, either. It was awesome!!! I know it was extremely horrible seeing anyone die within that Franchise back then, especially Optimus Prime, but it was still awesome AF!!! I'll never forget after Optimus died, my dad was wanting to leave, and just say to H**l with the rest of the movie. Lol. He loved Optimus that much, too. I'll also never forget, back in 2009, when I took him to see Revenge Of The Fallen, after I had already gone to see it once before that, but I remember telling him before hand that something was going to happen to Optimus, but it was all going to be okay. He loved Optimus so much, especially after the 2007 movie, that I was afraid he'd walk out of the theater, before seeing the actual ending to that movie, too. Lol. Good times, man, good times. 🙂
@Flashback_Funhouse You're welcome. Brought back a ton of great memories! I had to have sudden/emergency brain surgery, back in September of 2020, and due to that surgery, my short-term memory is forever gone, meaning I can no longer remember anything, or very, very little from earlier in the day. However, my long-term memory is still fully intact, so I can, thankfully, remember everything from that long ago, which I am so thankful for. The best memories are from my past anyhow, since everything in the World is now crap, so who wants to recall anything recent anymore anyhow? LOL!!! Seriously though, thanks for the great video, and for the walk back down memory lane as well. 🙂👍
Why no plastic effect piece to show Prowl being burned alive from the inside with the smoke pouring outta his mouth, Hasbro? I mean don't just give us the papercut...give us the lemon juice as well! Also...how the hell did Megatron get so powerful between the movie release day and when I saw him on TV last Saturday morning?!? He's shot plenty of Transformers in both modes and never done so much damage. Somebody needs to check his lubricant for steroids...
5:25 "Depending on your age" I was 14 in 86 so I fricken loved it. No trauma here. I hated how all the characters were bulletproof & 100% invincible in the cartoon. The deaths in the movie were totally realistic considering it was a war lasting for centuries. I knew Optimus was going to die so I was looking forward to it. But I don't understand why anybody would want toys of the dead characters. I totally love the movie but I don't need a toy from every single frame. I won't be recreating those scenes so I just don't get it. These things are too damn expensive now to be double dipping just for 1 gunshot hole and a different face. I also passed on the dead "alternate universe" Optimus Prime.
Definitely an age thing. A lot of kids my age (10) and younger saw it and freaked out. But were I a teen (and as an adult now of course) I think it’s pretty awesome. And yeah, just poking a hole in the chest and changing the face of a mold is really just a cash grab aimed at nostalgia collectors.
@ and you know, it really is a shame. Battle damage toys are great, and I totally agree with the premise you start the video with. These are just a bit over the line into morbid or grim though. They’re actual corpses, with faces of anguish. For me, it’s a bridge too far, and I’d rather hasbro saw lower sales on them and invested in giving us more of what we actually want.
I'm hearing this a lot, and I guess it IS pretty true. I expect eventually they will start revisiting a lot of those characters, but there's definitely not much to offer to date.
😳 This is Blasphemous!! Hasbro Dares disrespect some of the top OG original G1 Autobots! What next all the Decepticons who died at the hands of Optimus Prime! Oh yeah that's right most of them lived! 😮😒
LOL I am also GenX and I only got the prowl in a trade... even to this day, the memory of he movie means I have a hard time looking at him. I didn't realize hey came wiih blast effects, I might have to go get em' for the FX
I didn't realize they had gruesome death expressions and that crazy box art too! Are Hasbro and Takara a bunch of sadists? 😄 I was probably too young to see the movie in theaters. I loved those characters so I can't imagine how I would've reacted. And yeah, it wasn't necessary to kill off the original characters! Have a rotating cast or something.
I'd be spewing if my friends had spoiled The Movie for me (Thankfully I saw it in the theatre). My older brother saw all of the great 80's movies when I was too young to watch them, and when he got home, he would spoil the best moments from Predator, Robocop, Beetlejuice, Alien, Highlander, Terminator, Total Recall... 😣 I love all of those movies today, but would have adored them even more if I had been able to see them unspoiled as intended. I honestly didn't remember much from my first viewing of The Movie, except for Unicron's transformation, Starscreams demise, and the scene where Prime dies and turns grey. That last one was very memorable, but I wasn't emotional about it. Definitely not crying. I was seven. Years later, they played The Movie on TV as four 20 minute episodes, so I dubbed it onto a cassette, and that's when I became actually familiar with it. Nothing gets me quite as nostalgic as The Movie.
I just didn't go to the theater a lot as a kid, so most of the movies I watched were rented. And you know how long it took for movies to make it to the rental stores in the 80s! So I probably just asked them to tell me all about it anyway. But I do vaguely remember it just feeling really dark to me when I finally rented it and saw it for the first time. My best film memories in the 80s for the most part are the HBO Feature Presentations. That theme music still gets me super nostalgic today!!
I think you'll start to see more. Nostalgia is the name of the game these days in toylines. My kids grew up in the Bayverse era and will start to really want new versions of those guys in the near future. It's like how the retro gaming market shifted from Atari to NEW to now N64 and beyond as the hottest items.
As a '90s kid and Transformers fan, I feel for those who were before me that witnessed the pain, anger, and tragedy of beloved characters just for Hasbro to make way for new characters to sell/make toys of. Hearing stories from those '80s kids now 35-40+ adults is fascinating. My era had some traumatizing stuff too but not like what the '80s had. '80s kids/family movies were something else. Mine (the '90s until somewhat 1997) was no different. For Hasbro to make Studio Series fogures of the following from the '86 Movie just had to burn up those fans in anger and pain, didn't they? Hasbro today may not be like rhe Hasbro of '86, before my time of course, but doing these figures for those fans will continue to be a ballsy reminder of what they did and how emotionally scarring killing fan favorites like Ironhide, Rachet, Brawn and Optimus Prime continue to impact not just the Transformers franchise but its fandom of fans of all ages, mainly those who were again there before we '90s kids did a decade earlier. Nice collection btw but... Hasbro now are in worse shape with their brands and considering the multiple flops of movies lately even if Transformers One was good but marketing for it faltered.
Thanks for watching and the great comment! It's funny how a lot of folks don't realize just how REAL the reactions were to the movie in 86. That said, obviously most fans ultimately just find the whole thing kind of funny. But at the time it was crazy!! I do worry a bit about the state of Hasbro and the toyline, and I recognize how other fanbases of Bayverse, etc., have gotten shafted quite a bit. Hopefully that will change in the future!
It's not that deep bro. They're very minimal new tools for existing toys that will sell due to the demand for the regular version, then they can cause double dipping later when they repack those original toys. It's a way to make more money out of the moulds with minimum effort and keep the table clear to sell even more later. It's a work.
I like these sets. Only way to get these molds without the breakable clear plastic (except for brawn ofc) I don’t notice the battle damage as much as I could, oh yeah, and 💥BLAST EFFECTS 💥
Not to mention the “ alternative universe” Optimus prime, which is literally just his corpse from the movie… playing with the scene that ruined my childhood, wow
_Just_ battle damage would be one thing (cooler-looking than that tacky drybrushing), it's that they're mid-death, expressions and all, forever tied to that specific scene. Bit of a shame for the characters that aren't even available in any other form, like Prowl.
i mean i think its neat, the main issue i have is how lazy it is for the figures to just be “this guy but dead”, it was fun with the prime recolor but eehhhh, sorta lost the charm.
These sets are awesome. I'm hoping for the damaged/ dead Decepticons that were thrown out of Astrotrain. A battle damaged SS 86 Optimus Prime and Megatron would be great too.
I love the dying toys, and I wish all figures had some kind of dying/dead variant for my animations. That said, the G1 movie made in 1986 2 years into the G1 run kills off these specific characters. If this traumatizes you forty years later, then I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously as a transformers fan. They're cartoon characters dying in an anime. Grow the hell up folks. It's refreshing writing that's hardcore and metal as fuck. I don't care if they did it to sell more toys, it pushed the transformers narrative into new territory. A universe where everyone lives and the goodguys always win is a boring universe with no tension or ante.
I don't think I could have been any clearer in this video that it was tongue-in-cheek, but I'm going to hear more of this kind of response anyway and that's okay. I can take it!😂
I still wonder if people still unforgive the '86 movie, and are offended by these tribute toys. From what I've read, its premiere back then was just terribly received
It's an upsetting couple of sets if you were there. As a Brit the comic was more important than the toon as we had limited exposure to it, but the film killed my interest in season 3 stone dead. To this day I've only seen a handful of s3 episodes.
01:40 "Until we meet again". -Skeleton LOL 04:40 lost a good friend to a loaded shot gun before all this. When all these characters died I was shocked but I already knew life went on. A funny commentary though.
I didn’t have firecrackers, but I did have a woodburning kit. Let’s just say that Wolverine sustained some scars and other, much worse injuries that his healing factor _could not_ mitigate.
Who would know that the characters die because their's toy line got shut down, then in the future gets a toy about their death. This is somehow funny to me when I first time so these toys in the shop.
I was 3 when the 86 movie came out. Mom took me and my cousins to see it. And I later years I did rent the movie. Little me loved Arcee (still do). I have a love hate thing with the movie and season 3 of the series. Mostly love though😂
Geez, Hasbro, why don't you just come out with a version of Ironhide after Megatron blasted him at the end. Have a shattered head and flowered-out torso. Oh, make the lower part transformable so you can have a blown-out wrecked corpse.
If we have dying autobots from G1, when are we getting split in half sideways from ROTF? Hasbro: Skids and mudflap? ❌ Doing junkyon dude number 2948? ✅
Of course, logically speaking, now that SS86 Commander Class Prime has been released Hasbro/Takara Tomy only have one option. SS86 Commander Class Prime's corpse.
How morbid! You made me laugh when you said the tissue paper the accessories came in was to wipe your eyes, I saw it in 86 and was pretty full on for a kids movie, loved it. No, I wouldn't buy this..just weird.
Ummm... Did you miss the "Alternate Universe" Prime from a few years back? The box shows the mourning crowd in his windshield and is literally the battle damaged grayed out dead body of Prime...
I mean it would be upsetting if I didn't have access to non battle damage versions, but honestly it's kinda a cool idea for fans, and a smart way for them to re sell molds lol, kinda greedy but cool imo
you should get the dead body of optimus prime to, its just the same as the earthrise optimus prime but black and white with a damage head. Also they called it "Alternate Universe Optimus prime" for some reason
@ 1:23 As a Gen X purist, I just about had to stop watching... You sat Skeletor on Battle Cat! 😫 I didn't even tolerate my own kids doing something so taboo! 🤣 I'm just joking. Aaaaand yes, I was just barely grasping the concept of seeing alien robots that transform into vehicles when Megs and crew blasted the Autobots. I was like: "Can they get fixed like a TV?" The reply: "No dummy, they just got smoked!" 😫
1:36 Nah. I didn't do that. One, I was the youngest of two by a wide margin (my brother was 15yrs older than me). Two, I didn't collect G.I.★Joe figures back then, cuz I ain't care about the majority of the characters. 5:08 Ohhh, this is far from the first time. There was the Amazon exclusive "Alternative Universe Optimus Prime" during the Earthrise line that's basically DEAD Optimus. And way before that, it was Takara who fired the opening salvo of trauma dumping with MP4S Convoy (Sleep Mode), a MASTERPIECE Dead Optimus. (A color scheme that would be copied into a "MP10S Convoy Perfect Edition (Sleep Mode)" knockoff years later. 12:33 And then, Hasbruh would do it AGAIN, killing Optimus in 2009's Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. And from what I've heard in the years since then, they absolutely did to 2000s kids what they did to 80s kids...and to me, that was even funnier.
Prime and the other Autobots death whilst tragic and shocking to some didn't really bother for me since I was 11 and was watching R rated Action movies by then so had seen characters get killed before. Did I like Prime getting killed? No, but I was happy the Matrix went to Hot Rod since he was Cool and I had the Toy. My Friends and I appreciated them not talking down to us like Duke taking a Snake spear to the Heart and going into a "Coma".
Reminded me of the Community episode where they are in a G.I. Joe cartoon and while Destro is parachuting away, "Wingman" shoots his parachute and he falls to his death and everybody on both sides is freaked out by someone actually getting killed. Like, "You're supposed to let them fly away to fight again another day!!" 🤣
I Hate 86's Movie... Swarming with injustice, after 2 years the creators have gone mad...I wonder what kind of agent they were under the influence of??????!!!!!
The real question is, does Hasbro hate Bayverse this much? As someone who grew up with the 07 film at 4 years old, the 2020's so far have been filled with an endless wave of G1 across THE WHOLE franchise. I ain't saying G1 fans SHOULDN'T get modern great figures, but us Bayverse Babies have been given bread crumbs. We Bayverse fans are at least getting TLK Prime after 7 YEARS into the line (that makes me feel old), but man now that SS 86 Commander Prime is a thing. I am DYING for a redo of DOTM Optimus as a Commander instead of Leader... but we won't get that because EVERY COMMANDER CLASS FIGURE FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS IS GOING TO BE A G1 COMBINER. So I personally think you guys don't got it so bad.
They're absolutely pandering to the G1 folks. I have two sons who grew up in the Bayverse era, and I enjoyed watching those films as much as they did. Hopefully, there will be a shift soon once Hasbro realizes folks from that era are ready to spend money on their favorite toys from their youth. It's all about that nostalgia money!
Lol, somehow i feel like you missed out that part in SW where Kenobi died, lol. i will never understand that drama around TF the movie. my personal attitude was more like who survived! Jazz made it yay! lol, i was so disapointed i never got to see Sharkticons eat anyone. but then again as a kide i grew up watching Beast Master and here in my country we had so many Japanese cartooons based in literature classics, where you could se real, pain struggle, loss, so when i saw robots die, sorry no tears.
Yeaaahhh, fair point about Obi Wan but I feel like I didn’t grow very attached to him. Regardless, ultimately most of us just thought it was pretty “metal” that TF 86 was so violent. Just funny to look back on it because there WAS a backlash for sure. And Beastmaster! Nice!!
@@Flashback_Funhouse neither did i, but there must have been fans who of him, and i did felt bad for the dead ewoks, lol! Back then and till this day i find that Movie to be the best of the best animated features, it's a power music video and it pulls no punches! so i just cant understand why a lot of people found it disturbing. honestly, maybe that is my flaw, since in all the classics i had read by that time death was ever present, and worst in truly unfair and crushing ways! and those books became our cartoons too thanks to anime back then. Remi will always be the top growing up story.
i like the deaths, it has a heavy meanig, whit out it, the movie could hace been dull and boring, if you look back in the days of literature the main heroes just as the three musketeers, they ended up sacrificing their lifes to defend their kindom, even a mangaka like go nagai or the director of Gundam Yoshiyuki Tomino knows that a movie needs a touch of realism and subject matter in their storys
No, no... This is spot on. I was a huge Transformers fan right up until i saw the 86 movie. I was done with the show, and the toys really after the movie, like not joking. Its why i dont like the bayverse movies. I have a really big collection of 86 and remakes of the OG toys, and i would never buy these!
The real trauma is Hasbro making the damaged Prowl the ONLY Prowl we can find in this day and age.
Yes!!
I have a few prowl from the Seige line i think or eàrthrise. They were everywhere when first released
Aliexpress has knockoffs that are almost exactly the same as the original.
@@Poolplayer34unreliable quality control
@@IMosuGoji as if Hasbro's own QC is reliable
Hasbro: But the 80s movie is iconic!
Everyone else: NOT FOR THAT!
😂😂
I would argue it is for that
The 80s movie is iconic *_because_* of actual consequences faced by characters that American children hadn't seen in cartoons prior. In spite of those consequences, words said prior provide more weight to the decisions (both heroic and villainous) made by characters.
Wouldve been cool to have alternate heads and chest pieces so you could still have a normal version of each toy.
Especially with prowl, a smoking effect for the eyes wouldve been cool.
I find it funny that the regular Ratchet and Brawn were one of those things I saw and just bought, and now can't find it anywhere. Now, it's just that damage pack over and over again!
Display these while blasting Instruments of Destruction in the room.
A Starscream that transforms into a pile of ash would be very hard for Hasbro to pull off.
🤘🤘
Maybe if they brought back kreo, they could do something like that 😂
It would just be gray starscream
As a decepticon collector I cannot wait for the grey dead Optimus Prime repaint from studio 86.
You are a sick puppy 😂. But yeah, that's probably coming.
I’m a Decepticon collector too, well Megatron and the only autobots I would buy would be the dead ones. 😝
Alternative universe Optimus prime:
Hate it's G1 fans?
Bruh that's the part they've fed the most in the last couple of years.
Imagine what it was to be an Unicron trilogy fan before Legacy
That's exactly what I thought when i Read the discription
Definitely being hyperbolic with the title! 🤣. But it's also very true that nostalgia seems to be where the big money is these days, so they cater to it more than they ever have. Totally get that!
@@Flashback_Funhouse I'm not oppose of alot of the new modern g1 characters in the mainline, I'm just annoyed that because of 86 being a part of the studio series line it's just overshadowed the live action movie figures because the line was originally for the live action movie characters in the toy form (if you don't believe me, then just remember that from these two years 2023 and 2024 the only bayverse figures that come out was a core class dotm bumblebee, which was already a laserbeak repaint, the 15th anniversary desepticons 4 pack, rotf 15 anniversary autobots pack with only prime, Jetfire and the arcee triplets being encluded, and Mohawk, which is the only one New mould from all of these)
@@user-cp8nk7yq1s So I had sons at the perfect time for the Bayverse era and have a ton of Transformers from that time (well, they're my sons', but I'm taking good care of them for them so they will always have them!). They used to drive me nuts because I felt they were over-engineered or a little too complex, partially because I would just get handed a Megatron and told to Transform it during play!! But they've definitely grown on me, and some of the designs were really cool. I imagine EVENTUALLY people will get more nostalgic for that era and we will get more updated releases. One can hope!
@Flashback_Funhouse Nostalgia for Bayformers is already happening...how unfortunate.
When they make a new windcharger, get ready for another childhood trauma 2 pack
Dead Windcharger and Wheeljack is perfect lmao
Duke was supposed to Die in the GI Joe movie and get the old switchero with Lt Falcon voiced by Don Johnson I believe. However, Prime's sacrifice (and a crap ton of outrage by parents over Prime's death) saved him. They added the little Doc voice over saying "Duke has come out of his coma he is going to be just fine" at the end.
I never knew that! That's really funny actually!
@Flashback_Funhouse it also a terrible redub during that whole scene where scarlett says he's in a coma to replace he's dead
@@patrickfriel7957 Yeah you don't cry like that for a Coma man. They pushed Duke like Hell during the opening so him getting killed Should have been a Sargent Elias Moment. I also think Gung-ho, Alpine and Bazooka were supposed to die too since Sargent Slaughter mentions them when He's kicking Nemesis Enforcer's Ass. Also the way that Arm dropping limply into frame when they free the people from those pods was kinda ominous. I think the GI Joe Movie was originally going to have as Big a Body count as Transformers. Had to make Room for Captain Gridiron and Crew.
PRIMUS DAMNNIT
I've often wondered why they didn't simply UPGRADE the existing bots into newer, more futuristic forms rather than just killing them off. Have them get shot up, but fix em so they're better and even cooler than before. There was no need to slaughter them like that. The new toys would have sold, the fans would have been happy, and all would have been right with the Transformers world. Did Hasbro learn NOTHING from the reaction to Star Trek The Wrath of Khan?
Yeah, while a lot this video is mostly a joke reaction, I DO think it was a bizarre idea to just kill off a bunch of the OG's to make room for new toys.
"A step too far," you thought, as you bought them anyway, yes? 😉
What cracks me up the most is the box art that depicts Ratchet and Brawn in their death-throes. All we need now is for Hasbro to include a letter that says, "Hey, remember when Artax sank into the swamp and died?"
Yep!!
This is hilariously gruesome. These are definitely not made for kids, but collectors. I remember seeing the movie in the theater and hating how easily they were taken out while the Decepticons just walked away.
Funny to see the full spectrum of attitudes about the TF86 movie. At the time, though, a lot of kids were def taken off guard and there was a real backlash. I still feel the pain when I watch the movie but also love it.
@@Flashback_Funhouse I was not one of those kids, but I look back now and go "they went down to eadily"
@@JoybuzzerX Well, they went down too easily because they lost plot armor and had to make way for the new toys....er...characters....
They can still do windcharger and wheeljack too, there’s also the zombie prime from the show with that eye sticking out.
I actually kinda like these 2 packs in a weird way. They go on sale pretty frequently so I can get 2 figures for all the price of a Voyager. And I just use them as "battle damage" versions and instead of dying versions. Also no clear plastic on Prowl, Ironhide, or Ratchet so that automatically makes me like them. I'm also a big fan of the purple blast effects each set comes with.
They are solidly built figures for sure! And you do get TONS of blast effects which is particularly useful if you're posing, etc.
That title is ludicrous. Hasbro has a raging hard on for g1 and g1 adjacent parts of the franchise even the more interesting designs are watered down to fit the generation 1 design spec
It absolutely is!!😎 Nostalgia spends money and they're throwing everything they have right now at the G1 fans. That will eventually shift.
The 80s had the best toys of any generation to date. Choking hazards? What are those? Politically correct? What’s that? Intricate details? Check. Lots of moving parts? Check. And yes, my friends and I took a hammer to a few Hot Wheels just to create a “junk yard”. I also admittedly melted a David Hasselhoff figurine and blew up many a G.I. Joe.
The days of Garbage Pail Kids, Star Wars, M.U.S.C.L.E. Men, Battle Beasts, Rock Lords, Madballs, M.A.S.K., He-Man, Thundercats, and Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future were great. We also had Star Trek: The Next Generation airing on TV. I miss the 80s.
I remember strapping G.I. Joe figures to bottle rockets with my friends. Why did we go so hard on the Joe figures in particular? LOL. But yeah, great times!!
Way back there, my friend Mike got a model rocket set for Christmas, which he immediately tossed aside and kept the electric ignitor and rocket motors. He then brought them over to my house, and we used electrical tape to attach the rocket motors to Hot Wheels cars in our laboratory (dad's garage). I tested mine and it did OK, it flew around like a flaming hornet and smoked the place up, but wasn't too impressive... Mike decided we needed to modify his so it would make more fire and not bounce around in the garage. I used a 3/4 drill bit and a hacksaw to open up the exhaust packing and shorten the cardboard body, you know, so he could fire it off using a BIC lighter. After a couple of minutes, he looked at me and said: "Dude, it ain't gonna work, it needs electric to spark it!" And right on cue the lighter did its magic and fired that rocket motor... With his big fat thumb right in the KAAA-WHOOOSH zone. He burned the end of his thumb black, nearly choked to death, and I made a run for cover to disassociate myself from the @$$whoppin' that we were gonna get. Fortunately it didn't catch a fire in the garage, right beside the Boss 302 that was being restored, or we would've never been heard from again. And on another evening, after watching stuntman Spanky Spangler, I used a ball peen hammer and smashed up a few old Hot Wheels and Matchbox to use as demolition derby or stunt cars. My much older brother went and lied to dad about what I was doing, and I took a "no longer legal" type @$$whoopin' until mom heard it (this was outside) and threatened unmentionable harm to him. Turns out dad misunderstood because my older brother made up some finer details. Most of my best stories end with: "And then dad gave me an @$$whoopin'!" 🤣 Going into the Marines, I wasn't all that scared, I had already survived worse.
They're just cashing out as mush as humanly possible on G1 fans, every few years they drip feed slightly better versions for more & more money. Ex: Earthrise Prime & SS86 Prime & much of Earthrise Stuff & other Recent Lines.
I except the nostalgia shift to come fairly soon to something like Beast Wars...unfortunately.
I bought the Ironhide and Prowl set, Ironhide got parts swaps with the SS86 Ironhide, Toyhax window stickers and customs on the leftovers, Prowl I had someone make a new chest and head piece sure it cost money but no more dead characters! Not gonna go through that with the Ratchet and Brawn set though I really think it's sick stuff.
I was grounded by my parents when the '86 movie came out so never got to see it at the cinema.
My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think I just didn't go because my family didn't go to the theater much, but remember renting it for sure. So someone just 3D printed a new chest piece? That's pretty cool actually.
@ yep I saw it on VHS a longtime after.
For Prowl both the head and chest were cast pieces with resin and theLazyEyebrows headlight insert
Apparently the Ironhide/Prowl 2 pack was a joke that someone apparently thought was a good idea to do. And once they did that, the Brawn/Ratchet 2 pack was inevitable.
That's hilarious!!
I was 7 years old, sitting in the theater with my dad, back in 1986, armed with my large popcorn and large Mountain Dew, and will never forget that shuttle scene. That scene, with that bada*s Instruments Of Destruction, by N R.G., playing in the background, has never left my mind/memory. Horribly brutal scene for a child to see, but so awesome at the same time! The previous two years within the TV show, or any other kids TV show, we never got anything like that on TV, in terms of violence, let alone that killer a*s song, or the rest of that movie's killer Soundtrack, either. It was awesome!!! I know it was extremely horrible seeing anyone die within that Franchise back then, especially Optimus Prime, but it was still awesome AF!!! I'll never forget after Optimus died, my dad was wanting to leave, and just say to H**l with the rest of the movie. Lol. He loved Optimus that much, too. I'll also never forget, back in 2009, when I took him to see Revenge Of The Fallen, after I had already gone to see it once before that, but I remember telling him before hand that something was going to happen to Optimus, but it was all going to be okay. He loved Optimus so much, especially after the 2007 movie, that I was afraid he'd walk out of the theater, before seeing the actual ending to that movie, too. Lol. Good times, man, good times. 🙂
I LOVE this! Thanks so much for sharing! I hope lots of people see this comment. These types of stories are why I love this community so much!
@Flashback_Funhouse You're welcome. Brought back a ton of great memories! I had to have sudden/emergency brain surgery, back in September of 2020, and due to that surgery, my short-term memory is forever gone, meaning I can no longer remember anything, or very, very little from earlier in the day. However, my long-term memory is still fully intact, so I can, thankfully, remember everything from that long ago, which I am so thankful for. The best memories are from my past anyhow, since everything in the World is now crap, so who wants to recall anything recent anymore anyhow? LOL!!! Seriously though, thanks for the great video, and for the walk back down memory lane as well. 🙂👍
Why no plastic effect piece to show Prowl being burned alive from the inside with the smoke pouring outta his mouth, Hasbro? I mean don't just give us the papercut...give us the lemon juice as well!
Also...how the hell did Megatron get so powerful between the movie release day and when I saw him on TV last Saturday morning?!? He's shot plenty of Transformers in both modes and never done so much damage. Somebody needs to check his lubricant for steroids...
Yeah, it was pretty odd to see those single shot kill shots. Pretty sure they got shot quite a bit in the cartoons!
"Well, that's our problem. We had our guns set to 'tickle' this whole time."
“Does hasbro hate g1 fans”
“Your greed is ruining the economy” type sentence
5:25 "Depending on your age"
I was 14 in 86 so I fricken loved it. No trauma here. I hated how all the characters were bulletproof & 100% invincible in the cartoon. The deaths in the movie were totally realistic considering it was a war lasting for centuries. I knew Optimus was going to die so I was looking forward to it.
But I don't understand why anybody would want toys of the dead characters. I totally love the movie but I don't need a toy from every single frame. I won't be recreating those scenes so I just don't get it. These things are too damn expensive now to be double dipping just for 1 gunshot hole and a different face. I also passed on the dead "alternate universe" Optimus Prime.
Definitely an age thing. A lot of kids my age (10) and younger saw it and freaked out. But were I a teen (and as an adult now of course) I think it’s pretty awesome. And yeah, just poking a hole in the chest and changing the face of a mold is really just a cash grab aimed at nostalgia collectors.
for me, i can use them for recreating their death scene, but also making new ones. yes I play with my transformers and I cannot be stopped
I'm GenZ kid, and I understand gen x trauma, and they went too far
I appreciate the solidarity!! Also subbed to your channel. The stop motion vids are great! Keep it up!!
Yet you bought them.
I just couldn’t pay for that, and I won’t. When they release a real Prowl, I’ll pick it up
Yes, I did. And also fair point. 😎
@ and you know, it really is a shame. Battle damage toys are great, and I totally agree with the premise you start the video with.
These are just a bit over the line into morbid or grim though. They’re actual corpses, with faces of anguish. For me, it’s a bridge too far, and I’d rather hasbro saw lower sales on them and invested in giving us more of what we actually want.
I can't wait for the dead Windcharger and Wheeljack two-pack. Hasbro doesn't hate its G1 fans as much as Bayverse fans.
I'm hearing this a lot, and I guess it IS pretty true. I expect eventually they will start revisiting a lot of those characters, but there's definitely not much to offer to date.
Even Michael bay himself hates his own fans.
@Remle4 that's true
😳 This is Blasphemous!! Hasbro Dares disrespect some of the top OG original G1 Autobots! What next all the Decepticons who died at the hands of Optimus Prime! Oh yeah that's right most of them lived! 😮😒
New ideas Hasbro why I'm full of them!!! they can even do some of the G1 characters that didn't have a G2 in a G2 format or even a G3 format
1 step to far but you back it and buy them right seems kinda odd why you have them if it hurts you so bad and you just can't believe it makes no since
You DID get that this was mostly tongue-in-cheek, right? I was pretty clear about that. :)
LOL I am also GenX and I only got the prowl in a trade... even to this day, the memory of he movie means I have a hard time looking at him. I didn't realize hey came wiih blast effects, I might have to go get em' for the FX
Yeah both packs come loaded with the blast effects.
Prowl hanging in the box with a slumped posture and an expression of pure suffering and agony is so wrong and yet so funny at the same time
lol FACTS!
I didn't realize they had gruesome death expressions and that crazy box art too! Are Hasbro and Takara a bunch of sadists? 😄
I was probably too young to see the movie in theaters. I loved those characters so I can't imagine how I would've reacted.
And yeah, it wasn't necessary to kill off the original characters! Have a rotating cast or something.
I'd be spewing if my friends had spoiled The Movie for me (Thankfully I saw it in the theatre).
My older brother saw all of the great 80's movies when I was too young to watch them, and when he got home, he would spoil the best moments from Predator, Robocop, Beetlejuice, Alien, Highlander, Terminator, Total Recall... 😣 I love all of those movies today, but would have adored them even more if I had been able to see them unspoiled as intended.
I honestly didn't remember much from my first viewing of The Movie, except for Unicron's transformation, Starscreams demise, and the scene where Prime dies and turns grey.
That last one was very memorable, but I wasn't emotional about it. Definitely not crying. I was seven.
Years later, they played The Movie on TV as four 20 minute episodes, so I dubbed it onto a cassette, and that's when I became actually familiar with it. Nothing gets me quite as nostalgic as The Movie.
I just didn't go to the theater a lot as a kid, so most of the movies I watched were rented. And you know how long it took for movies to make it to the rental stores in the 80s! So I probably just asked them to tell me all about it anyway. But I do vaguely remember it just feeling really dark to me when I finally rented it and saw it for the first time. My best film memories in the 80s for the most part are the HBO Feature Presentations. That theme music still gets me super nostalgic today!!
They don’t hate you have you seen the state of the bay verse fandom there’s barely any figures for them
I think you'll start to see more. Nostalgia is the name of the game these days in toylines. My kids grew up in the Bayverse era and will start to really want new versions of those guys in the near future. It's like how the retro gaming market shifted from Atari to NEW to now N64 and beyond as the hottest items.
I know it's all tongue in cheek, but the sad part is that these are more show accurate than their, erm... "Undamaged" counterparts, so to speak.
As a '90s kid and Transformers fan, I feel for those who were before me that witnessed the pain, anger, and tragedy of beloved characters just for Hasbro to make way for new characters to sell/make toys of. Hearing stories from those '80s kids now 35-40+ adults is fascinating.
My era had some traumatizing stuff too but not like what the '80s had. '80s kids/family movies were something else. Mine (the '90s until somewhat 1997) was no different.
For Hasbro to make Studio Series fogures of the following from the '86 Movie just had to burn up those fans in anger and pain, didn't they? Hasbro today may not be like rhe Hasbro of '86, before my time of course, but doing these figures for those fans will continue to be a ballsy reminder of what they did and how emotionally scarring killing fan favorites like Ironhide, Rachet, Brawn and Optimus Prime continue to impact not just the Transformers franchise but its fandom of fans of all ages, mainly those who were again there before we '90s kids did a decade earlier.
Nice collection btw but... Hasbro now are in worse shape with their brands and considering the multiple flops of movies lately even if Transformers One was good but marketing for it faltered.
Thanks for watching and the great comment! It's funny how a lot of folks don't realize just how REAL the reactions were to the movie in 86. That said, obviously most fans ultimately just find the whole thing kind of funny. But at the time it was crazy!! I do worry a bit about the state of Hasbro and the toyline, and I recognize how other fanbases of Bayverse, etc., have gotten shafted quite a bit. Hopefully that will change in the future!
It's not that deep bro. They're very minimal new tools for existing toys that will sell due to the demand for the regular version, then they can cause double dipping later when they repack those original toys.
It's a way to make more money out of the moulds with minimum effort and keep the table clear to sell even more later. It's a work.
You're right. It definitely ain't this deep!🤣
I like these sets. Only way to get these molds without the breakable clear plastic (except for brawn ofc) I don’t notice the battle damage as much as I could, oh yeah, and 💥BLAST EFFECTS 💥
Not to mention the “ alternative universe” Optimus prime, which is literally just his corpse from the movie… playing with the scene that ruined my childhood, wow
_Just_ battle damage would be one thing (cooler-looking than that tacky drybrushing), it's that they're mid-death, expressions and all, forever tied to that specific scene. Bit of a shame for the characters that aren't even available in any other form, like Prowl.
Yeah especially the Prowl!!
i mean i think its neat, the main issue i have is how lazy it is for the figures to just be “this guy but dead”, it was fun with the prime recolor but eehhhh, sorta lost the charm.
These sets are awesome. I'm hoping for the damaged/ dead Decepticons that were thrown out of Astrotrain.
A battle damaged SS 86 Optimus Prime and Megatron would be great too.
💯
_mehh...._
Bring on *_Windcharger_* & *_Wheelhack_*
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
@Flashback_Funhouse of course!
Cliffjumper did it first. (You can argue about the Battle damaged Jazz and Arcee from 2007)
I love the dying toys, and I wish all figures had some kind of dying/dead variant for my animations.
That said, the G1 movie made in 1986 2 years into the G1 run kills off these specific characters.
If this traumatizes you forty years later, then I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously as a transformers fan. They're cartoon characters dying in an anime. Grow the hell up folks. It's refreshing writing that's hardcore and metal as fuck. I don't care if they did it to sell more toys, it pushed the transformers narrative into new territory. A universe where everyone lives and the goodguys always win is a boring universe with no tension or ante.
I don't think I could have been any clearer in this video that it was tongue-in-cheek, but I'm going to hear more of this kind of response anyway and that's okay. I can take it!😂
Reminds me of a USB flash drive I saw that was made to look like Tomoe Mami.
I don't think I need to tell you what the cap was.
That's like, hey genX, we just released a new Swamp of Sorrows playset for you guys! Includes drowning Artax and crying Atreyu!!!! 😂
😂😂
I still wonder if people still unforgive the '86 movie, and are offended by these tribute toys. From what I've read, its premiere back then was just terribly received
Doing some shots with them? That sounds like an odd experience
Whining kids were the reason that no one died in the G.I.Joe movie.
Wait…other folks don’t get drunk with their toys? That can’t be true. 😂😂
I did not grow up in the 80s or 90s but I will always love g1 and the movie did scare me as well 😂
It's an upsetting couple of sets if you were there. As a Brit the comic was more important than the toon as we had limited exposure to it, but the film killed my interest in season 3 stone dead. To this day I've only seen a handful of s3 episodes.
Funnily enough I’ve just started trying to watch season 3. Don’t remember them at all so assuming I wasn’t watching as a kid either.
01:40 "Until we meet again". -Skeleton LOL 04:40 lost a good friend to a loaded shot gun before all this. When all these characters died I was shocked but I already knew life went on. A funny commentary though.
Sorry to hear about that loss! Life definitely has a way of putting things into perspective. Thanks for watching!!
They have to do "grayscale Optimus Prime".
Remember Takara recolored MP-01 Optimus Prime as Sleep Mode
The G1 fans deserve this because of how they treat non-G1 fans.
Man, I didn’t know that was even a thing but I’m learning in these comments!! 😂😂
Based
Missed opportunity to have a starscream and megatron set coming into the shuttle
I didn’t have firecrackers, but I did have a woodburning kit. Let’s just say that Wolverine sustained some scars and other, much worse injuries that his healing factor _could not_ mitigate.
LOVE it!! 😂😂
What's next,grayed out and lifeless Optimus?
The real question is, can they still transform? If so, they are Zombiebots.
I wish they would sell packs of blast effects.
Who would know that the characters die because their's toy line got shut down, then in the future gets a toy about their death. This is somehow funny to me when I first time so these toys in the shop.
I wish SS86 Ratchet had that deco and non clear plastic windows
(About the figures) I wouldn’t mind buying the prowl and ironhide, prowl looks like he was just scratched.
It's not the worst, and the only other option for that mold is pretty tough to come by.
I can’t wait for them to make a dead bumblebee from ROTB
I'm waiting for Hasbro to release a dead Prime, Windcharger and Wheeljack next. 😢😭
You know they will do it.
And a pull-apart Jazz!!!
@@Flashback_Funhouse I thought you could do that with the OG Bayformer Jazz? 🤔
Well said my friend!
I was 3 when the 86 movie came out. Mom took me and my cousins to see it. And I later years I did rent the movie. Little me loved Arcee (still do). I have a love hate thing with the movie and season 3 of the series. Mostly love though😂
Three!! That's crazy!! Love it!
Geez, Hasbro, why don't you just come out with a version of Ironhide after Megatron blasted him at the end. Have a shattered head and flowered-out torso. Oh, make the lower part transformable so you can have a blown-out wrecked corpse.
Now I need to go check if I can pull Ironhide’s head off and still be able to put it back on…
Hasbro's moto has always been " F&(*% THEM WHERE IS MY MONEY ! " use the lowest amount for the highest of price and F the buyer !
What's the bet they're going to release a 'Dark awakening' Optimus Prime?
🤞
If we have dying autobots from G1, when are we getting split in half sideways from ROTF?
Hasbro:
Skids and mudflap? ❌
Doing junkyon dude number 2948? ✅
That was BRUTAL and I say get that engineered! A pull apart Transformer would be pretty damn cool!
The reason why hasbro can’t do skids and mudflap is because they were criticized for being offensive stereotypes
@@myang12003 bro, nobody cares about that anymore. They block people for asking when the twins will be made.
They WONT make them, not CANT.
Of course, logically speaking, now that SS86 Commander Class Prime has been released Hasbro/Takara Tomy only have one option.
SS86 Commander Class Prime's corpse.
The ironic thing is this gen 1 inspired Ironhide comes with a head unlike the original toy. Anyone who has seen the movie knows why that is Ironic.
Damn. That’s a really good point. 😂
How morbid! You made me laugh when you said the tissue paper the accessories came in was to wipe your eyes, I saw it in 86 and was pretty full on for a kids movie, loved it. No, I wouldn't buy this..just weird.
🤣 Fair enough!! Thanks for watching!
Ummm... Did you miss the "Alternate Universe" Prime from a few years back? The box shows the mourning crowd in his windshield and is literally the battle damaged grayed out dead body of Prime...
Yeahhh, I knew that one existed but don’t own it. Should have definitely mentioned it though! 👍
I mean it would be upsetting if I didn't have access to non battle damage versions, but honestly it's kinda a cool idea for fans, and a smart way for them to re sell molds lol, kinda greedy but cool imo
In reality, yeah of course! Just poke a hole in the chest, change the face a tiny bit and it's a new toy. Makes sense!!
you should get the dead body of optimus prime to, its just the same as the earthrise optimus prime but black and white with a damage head. Also they called it "Alternate Universe Optimus prime" for some reason
Yeah, gotta add him to the collection!
I just hate i dont have an undamaged Prowl option.
I hope to see every transformer gets the studio 86 treatment.
@ 1:23 As a Gen X purist, I just about had to stop watching... You sat Skeletor on Battle Cat! 😫 I didn't even tolerate my own kids doing something so taboo! 🤣 I'm just joking. Aaaaand yes, I was just barely grasping the concept of seeing alien robots that transform into vehicles when Megs and crew blasted the Autobots. I was like: "Can they get fixed like a TV?" The reply: "No dummy, they just got smoked!" 😫
Hahaha!! Yeah I had a bit of fun with Darth on the speeder and Skeletor on Battle Cat! 😂😂😂 Thanks for watching!!
nah what's messed up is that we get corpses before Megatron
For real! And we also got the "Coronation Starscream"...like seemingly every frame of the movie but they can't seem to figure out Megatron.
@@Flashback_Funhouse i don't understand Hasbro sometimes
I kind of think if it as a way for stop motion people to recreate some scenes
1:36 Nah. I didn't do that. One, I was the youngest of two by a wide margin (my brother was 15yrs older than me). Two, I didn't collect G.I.★Joe figures back then, cuz I ain't care about the majority of the characters.
5:08 Ohhh, this is far from the first time. There was the Amazon exclusive "Alternative Universe Optimus Prime" during the Earthrise line that's basically DEAD Optimus. And way before that, it was Takara who fired the opening salvo of trauma dumping with MP4S Convoy (Sleep Mode), a MASTERPIECE Dead Optimus. (A color scheme that would be copied into a "MP10S Convoy Perfect Edition (Sleep Mode)" knockoff years later.
12:33 And then, Hasbruh would do it AGAIN, killing Optimus in 2009's Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. And from what I've heard in the years since then, they absolutely did to 2000s kids what they did to 80s kids...and to me, that was even funnier.
Fair is fair! Do it to EVERY new generation of fans!!🤣
Prime and the other Autobots death whilst tragic and shocking to some didn't really bother for me since I was 11 and was watching R rated Action movies by then so had seen characters get killed before. Did I like Prime getting killed? No, but I was happy the Matrix went to Hot Rod since he was Cool and I had the Toy. My Friends and I appreciated them not talking down to us like Duke taking a Snake spear to the Heart and going into a "Coma".
Reminded me of the Community episode where they are in a G.I. Joe cartoon and while Destro is parachuting away, "Wingman" shoots his parachute and he falls to his death and everybody on both sides is freaked out by someone actually getting killed. Like, "You're supposed to let them fly away to fight again another day!!" 🤣
F Brawn. Taking that shot Megatron was the best scene of his career.
😂😂😂
The designs pitched this as a joke. But they just kind of went for it
Sadly, it is the cheapest way to get a g1 accurate ratchet (plz tell me how to get a non-dead ver plz)
The Ratchet actually has a Studio Series version that is the same mold but NOT dead.
I Hate 86's Movie... Swarming with injustice, after 2 years the creators have gone mad...I wonder what kind of agent they were under the influence of??????!!!!!
Well it WAS the 80s!!!
The real question is, does Hasbro hate Bayverse this much? As someone who grew up with the 07 film at 4 years old, the 2020's so far have been filled with an endless wave of G1 across THE WHOLE franchise. I ain't saying G1 fans SHOULDN'T get modern great figures, but us Bayverse Babies have been given bread crumbs. We Bayverse fans are at least getting TLK Prime after 7 YEARS into the line (that makes me feel old), but man now that SS 86 Commander Prime is a thing. I am DYING for a redo of DOTM Optimus as a Commander instead of Leader... but we won't get that because EVERY COMMANDER CLASS FIGURE FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS IS GOING TO BE A G1 COMBINER. So I personally think you guys don't got it so bad.
They're absolutely pandering to the G1 folks. I have two sons who grew up in the Bayverse era, and I enjoyed watching those films as much as they did. Hopefully, there will be a shift soon once Hasbro realizes folks from that era are ready to spend money on their favorite toys from their youth. It's all about that nostalgia money!
Lol, somehow i feel like you missed out that part in SW where Kenobi died, lol. i will never understand that drama around TF the movie. my personal attitude was more like who survived! Jazz made it yay! lol, i was so disapointed i never got to see Sharkticons eat anyone. but then again as a kide i grew up watching Beast Master and here in my country we had so many Japanese cartooons based in literature classics, where you could se real, pain struggle, loss, so when i saw robots die, sorry no tears.
Yeaaahhh, fair point about Obi Wan but I feel like I didn’t grow very attached to him. Regardless, ultimately most of us just thought it was pretty “metal” that TF 86 was so violent. Just funny to look back on it because there WAS a backlash for sure. And Beastmaster! Nice!!
@@Flashback_Funhouse neither did i, but there must have been fans who of him, and i did felt bad for the dead ewoks, lol! Back then and till this day i find that Movie to be the best of the best animated features, it's a power music video and it pulls no punches! so i just cant understand why a lot of people found it disturbing. honestly, maybe that is my flaw, since in all the classics i had read by that time death was ever present, and worst in truly unfair and crushing ways! and those books became our cartoons too thanks to anime back then. Remi will always be the top growing up story.
Yeah, I'm going to be real with you. This is pretty messed up. on several, levels If you really think about it...
can't wait to get a box full of ashes for starsceams death figure
Hah!!
I swear... if they do the same thing to the SS86 Optimus i will lose my mind . I may be gen alpha but this movie legit made me sad :(
Technically, there IS a gray Optimus....
@Flashback_Funhouse You mean The ome with the earthrise mold?
Lmao, those head sclupts....
😂😂
these battle damaged molds are hot garbage, Hasbro will continue to fire bad employees who make bad decisions, that's all
I want them for the weird macabre novelty value, but both sets are so overpriced in my country.
That’s too bad. Hopefully the prices will come down!!
Portraying dead character as toys ..never expected..
i saw the film when i was 6 i cried when prime died the only 3 movie charaters i liked were arcee and hot rod/rodimus prime.
i like the deaths, it has a heavy meanig, whit out it, the movie could hace been dull and boring, if you look back in the days of literature the main heroes just as the three musketeers, they ended up sacrificing their lifes to defend their kindom, even a mangaka like go nagai or the director of Gundam Yoshiyuki Tomino knows that a movie needs a touch of realism and subject matter in their storys
Definitely took OP to the next level of hero and made for a very meaningful passing of the torch (Matrix) to Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime.
No, no... This is spot on. I was a huge Transformers fan right up until i saw the 86 movie. I was done with the show, and the toys really after the movie, like not joking. Its why i dont like the bayverse movies. I have a really big collection of 86 and remakes of the OG toys, and i would never buy these!
I feel ya!
I want these sets for the purple blast effects.
You get plenty, that's for sure!!
No. We're Metal AF!