SORCERY LOCATIONS: Briars of Punishment - Found under a tree before the long narrow bridge in the West Mountaintops of the Giants Briars of Sin - Dropped by Fire-Thorn Sorcerer near the Artist’s Shack in Liurnia of the Lakes Carian Greatsword - Can be purchased from the big peaceful turtle at the Church of Vows for 10,000 runes Magic Glintblade - ^ 3,000 runes Carian Phalanx - Sling Perceptor Seluvis 12,000 runes (Seluvis’s Rise) Carian Retaliation - ^ 9,000 runes Glintblade Phalanx, Carian Slicer - Give Royal House Scroll to big turtle, Seluvis, or Sellen Carian Piercer - Dropped by a teardrop scarab in Caria Manor behind the eastern gardens Lucidity, Magical Downpour - Dropped by Perceptor Miriam in Carian Study Hall Great Oracular Bubble, and Oracle Bubble - Both found in Siofra River but it’s a lot to type and im on my phone so look up a tutorial lol Adula’s Moonblade - Dropped by Glintstone Dragon Adula at the Cathedral of Manus Celes Freezing Mist - Perceptor Seluvis 6,000 runes Frozen Armament - Dropped by Teardrop Scarab behind Caria Manor Glintstone Icecrag - Perceptor Seluvis 7,500 runes Zamor Ice Storm - Zamor Ruins in the Mountaintops Crystal Release - Dropped by Crystalians in Academy Crystal Cave Crystal Torrent - Dropped by Putrid Crystalians in Sellia Hideaway Shattering Crystal - Looted off corpse on the second floor of the Church of the Cuckoo in Raya Lucaria Ancient Death Rancor - Death Rite Bird east of Raya Lucaria (must be at night) Explosive Ghostflame - Death Rite Bird southeast of Apostate Derelict in Consecrated Snowfield (must be at night) Fia’s Mist - Defeat Fia’s Champions in Deeproot Depths, which is north of the Across the Roots SoG Rancorcall - Found in Stormveil Castle, it drops from a scarab that’s in the underground crypt of the castle Tibia’s Summons - Defeat Tibia Mariner in Wyndham Ruins Renalla’s Full Moon - Rennalla’s Remembrance Ranni’s Dark Moon - Found in Chelona’s Rise of progressing through Ranni’s questline Cannon of Haima - Found in a chest at the top of the Converted Fringe Tower (northeast Liurnia) Comet - Found behind the bookless bookshelf before the Debate Parlor in Raya Lucaria Crystal Burst - Drops from the old hag queen in the Demi-Human Forest Ruins (Weeping Peninsula) Crystal Barrage - Sorceress Sellen 1,500 runes in Waypoint Ruins Gavel of Haima - Found in chest on top of the Converted Fringe Tower (must have Erudition gesture to access) Glintstone Arc - Can be bought for 1,500 runes from Sellen (Waypoint Ruins) or Thops (Church of Irith) Glintstone Cometshard - 12,000 runes after giving Sellen, Seluvis or big turtle the Conspectus Scroll Star Shower - ^ 10,000 Glintstone Pebble - 1,000 runes, Thops or Sellen Glintstone Stars - 3,000 runes, Sellen Great Glintstone Shard - 2,000 runes after giving Sellen, Seluvis, or big turtle the Academy Scroll Swift Glintstone Shard - ^ 600 runes Scholar’s Armament - 3,000 runes, Sellen Scholar’s Shield - 2,500 runes, Sellen Shard Spiral - 8,000 runes, Sellen after progressing through her quest Starlight - 2,500 Thops Terra Magica - Found in chest after taking the lift behind the Crystalian bosses in Academy Crystal Cave Thops’s Barrier - Looted from Thops’s body at the end of his quest Collapsing Stars - Found in chest in the War-Dead Catacombs (drop down into the rot in the first room) Gravity Well - Dropped by Lesser Alabaster Lord near the giant rotating lift in Raya Lucaria Metoerite - Royal Grave Evergaol Rock Sling - Found in underground cellar part of the Street of Sages Ruins in Caelid Meteorite of Astel - Dropped by Astel boss in Yelough Anix Tunnel (Consecrated Snowfield) Loretta’s Greatbow - Dropped by Knight Loretta in Caria Manor Loretta’s Mastery - Dropped by Knight Loretta in the Haligtree Gelmir’s Fury - Given by Recusant Bernahl after doing his request in Volcano Manor Magma Shot - Rewarded by Tanith after completing her first assassination Rykard’s Rancor - Rykard’s Remembrance Roiling Magma - Hermit Shack on Mt. Gelmir Ambush Shard - Underground jail of Witchbane Ruins (Weeping Peninsula) Eternal Darkness - Found inside Swamp Lookout Tower in Caelid, which south of the Church of the Plague Night Comet - In chest that is in the central part of Sellia, Town of Sorcery Night Maiden’s Mist - 5,000 runes from Gowry after completing his questline Night Shard - ^ 4,000 runes Unseen Form, Unseen Blade - Found at the top of Mirage Rise in Altus Plateau (puzzle) Comet Azur - Given by Sorcerer Azur near Hermit Village on Mt. Gelmir Founding Rain of Stars - In a chest found in Heretical Rise (Mountaintops) Stars of Ruin - Given by Master Lusat who is found behind a seal in Sellia Hideaway
Just so you know, the passive bonuses to spells from staves don't care which staff you're using. You can cast from one and get the bonus from the other. Same for seals. Also, the bonuses stack multiplicatively, so you can double up on the same casting tool!
@@rishadkazi8698yes. Let's take the giants Seal as an example. Using a Giant's Flame or Flame Monk Incantations multiplies the scaling by 1.20. Having one Seal in each Hand cause them to apply both buffs multiplicative, so 1,20 x 1,20 = 1,44/ 44%more incant scaling.
It's really a shame that most games don't let you use water as a magic or power. The animations would be so fun to watch as you splash your enemies with water jets or tidal waves imo.
Fun fact: Full Moon Spells can "eat" projectile type spells, acting as a potential shield. That property also applies to Rennala's fight. It's not incredible on reaction but it can help against spam if you manage to pull it off.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but cold sorceries are boosted by 10 percent from Ranni’s hat. This also applies to Dark Moon, which means it’s boosted by the scepter and the hat.
You should re-try the magma sorceries using a different catalyst. The Gelmir staff has AWFUL spell scaling. Just hold it in your off hand and cast with an actually good staff.
Yeah. Basically when it comes down to it, there are only like four viable staves in the game. Catalysts seem a bit better in diversity, but not much.@@monkwashere
Hey Monk! Great video! Just a quick note, the two clayman sorceries are boosted by the albinauric staff. And you can also use two of the same staff (or seal when incantation video is out) to boost it twice damage wise. Good stuff though.
No, bubble spells are not boosted by the Albinauric Staff. No idea where you got that from but it's neither part of the staffs item description not is there any "hidden" bonus as part of the actual params (the file that lists all the weapon/spell/projectile behavior and such) The only unique interaction with the Albinauric staff is increased bleed buildup with Thorn sorceries because of the arcane scaling.
I think Youwy was the one who talked about Loretta's GB vs Loretta's Mastery, and Mastery only hits a little bit harder, but also has an issue where the lowest arrow almost always hits the ground when it's fired flat, which will effectively make it deal less damage every time compared to normal Loretta's. You have to shoot it up to get that arrow not to hit the ground. Kind of a big oversight. I've seen a trick in PvP where people power up the spell and free aim upwards, then lock onto a player and release the shot before their character can angle back down. Then it arcs the shot up, and the tracking is good enough to take care of the rest.
The aberrant sorceries, though few in number, are truly fantastic in my experience. Briars of Sin is excellent for baiting out trades as not many people expect the third cast and try to go in for the trade only to proc bleed on themselves. Briars of Punishment is fantastic for casting at enemies who are far away as it can travel a crazy far distance and slowly build up bleed on enemies. I found that this kind of blood mage build works best with Alberich clothes, Staff of the Guilty in one hand, and the Albinauric staff in the other. You cast through the Albinaric staff for the increased damage and bleed build up, but get the boost to aberrant sorceries by simply holding the other staff. Truly an underrated build in my experience.
As a Loretta Mastery enjoyer I can share few tips: 1. Cast some aoe to keep people away from you and make your magic greatbow harder to be seen. (ice storm/mist/rain of stars 2. One arrow explodes earlier and messes up people's roll timing. If people just stand waiting for your shot - lock off, aim down and lock on again to make sure arrows will not explode at the same time 3. Charged arrows are actually AoE - one of the easiest ways to land it is to fire it right under your feet when somebody's trying to hit you.
Okay, so some pointers. First, when making a sorcery build, you're gonna want an INT level of 80 for max DPS. Next, even though some sorceries get buffs from specific staves, it doesn't matter. The best staves are Lusat's staff, Carian Regal Scepter, and Crystal Staff, and the amount of scaling they give will absolutely out-muscle whatever buffs the other staves can give. BUT! That doesn't mean you should ignore those buffing staves. Just keep those staves in your off-hand, and use one of the three best staves as a primary. If you keep the Staff of Loss in your left hand, and cast Night Comet with the Lusat's staff in your right hand, you'll get the buff from the Staff of Loss anyway. Next, Crystal Barrage is absolutely not terrible, and can do thousands of damage points with the right setup, and it's ease of use, and FP efficiency can potentially make Crystal Torrent and Comet Azur obsolete.
Actually, the best staff is Azur. 40 vdex is incredibly powerful, especially considering that you can often get 1 more tali slot cause you might not need the vdex tali.
do the bonuses stack? for exmple, if i use the blue staff with the night staff in my left hand, am I getting both the night bonus and the spell cast time bonus?
Founding Rain of Stars defiantly needs to be buffed, but it's not entirely underwhelming. It's got some great bait potential as it shares it's casting animation with Stars of Ruin, and is likely to trick an opponent into rushing you.
The funny thing about that is that Founding Rain of Stars was actually Nerfed in a previous patch oddly enough and it wasn't even strong or anything pre nerf, I believe the nerf came in the same patch as the one that Stars of Ruin was nerfed in actually.
So as someone who has only really played Elden Ring, starting with magic made it real easy. Then starting character 2 as a melee fighter I felt like I was playing a completely different game 😅
I also did magic on my first play through and melee on the second one, but that actually made it easier for me (for most parts of the game) I think it relies really heavily on personal play style, since I rely heavily on stance pressure and roll attacks. Edit: I am only talking about my pve experience here
Oh I totally agree. Most games I usually go magic but I enjoyed melee more than magic,,, in Elden Ring at least. Using magic definitely helped me learn move sets of enemies and prep for a melee run though so that was nice. My favorite run so far was my cold claymore with incantations or dual Blood Great Stars, great loadouts 😄
Glad to see some love for sorceries! Though you kind of need dual staves and higher level to show how good these spells are. Going from 60 to 80 int would give you around 20% extra damage while melee gets around 10%. Plus 10-20% from dual wielding
doesn't matter which staff you actually cast with for the bonus, just need to be holding it, or have it on your hip to get the effect, as long as it's in an active weapon slot you're good reason that faith guy was holding Azur's is for the cast speed buff, that works with incants too, but oddly they don't cost additional fp, unlike sorcery crystal torrent is basically the kamehameha spell, but lower memory and fp cost, you really do have to free aim it on a good read to land it in pvp, but i argue it better than the beam
Watching you test the Primeval Sorceries using both fp-cost increasing staffs while having so little Mind is one of those moments that instills true suffering into my bones This man is using all of his FP
Me watching in horror as you pair up the Lusat Staff and the Azur Staff, increasing the cost of some already expensive spells even further: Anyways, if you wanna take another crack at sorceries, or need some help with incantations, try unlocking to throw the spell where your opponent is going to be. The default response to spells with long windups is to strafe and punish, so if you unlock to aim behind you then you're gonna have a lot less trouble hitting them, especially with spells that have little to no tracking like the Gelmir spells or Cannon of Haima. It might also be a good idea to aim the Roiling Magma at your feet as an area denial tool rather than trying to land it on your opponent, put some strategy into where you point your delayed kaboom.
Crystal release I had one really good use, getting a host panicked in a small room and it just melts them. Founding Rain of Stars is great chip damage and good to pair with shard spiral for massive bosses.
Gelmir's staff get the most sorcery scaling by an even distribution of int and faith with a soft cap at 45/45. After that the prince of death staff starts to scale better; i think that this is the primary reason why the damage was bad, you had not an optimized distribution of stats; still really interesting and nice video!
I like to use night maiden's mist in invasions as a zoning tool, it especially works well if you're in a catacomb or cave where you can block off an entire hall while launching projectiles through it. Pair it with magma sorceries and you can fill an entire hallway with chip damaging AOEs
The gravity well spells i feel like are better used as a utility/when paired with something you can actually *pull* enemies into. Like a mist cloud, magma pool, or a volcanic throwing pot
you can hit people over the head with your staffs when using sorceries, and it helps a ton, seriously, its something i used to do in dark souls 3, if someone is being annoying and closing the distance CONSTANTLY, slap em with your stick, if they persist you can just get FREE DAMAGE with it
Great Oracular Bubble has a niche use in PvE if you have the jump on a large enemy. Since it moves slow, you can have multiple projectiles inbound before the enemy even knows you're there
Founding Rain of Stars has 3 (and only 3) uses. 1. To discourage melee fighters from getting too close to you while you're casting something else. 2. In PvE, it can hit enemies hiding under ledges directly below you that you can't target with other Ranged attacks. 3. The Aesthetic It may not be the best spell, but it's still one of my favorites.
Go full StoneDigger Both Sorcerries are great with decent armor + iron jar aromatic to boost poise. Walk people down. Pickaxe is fun to use as well. They even have throwables.
So, it might seam unbelievable, but I was on my way to try an Int faith hybrid build that was going to contain Rykard rancor as one of the main spell, so it’s kinda the first time I will be interested into spells
Great Oracular Bubble is so fun in PvE! It deals really good damage, especially if you maximize on magic damage buffs, and you can set up multiple bubbles at once because of their slow movement and long projectile lifespan!
Hi Monk, you could do a "Testing every weapon buff to see their beautiful colors" video or something like that, the buffs I had seen are Cragblade AoW Royal Knight's Resolve AoW (I know is not exactly a weapon buff but it changes the color of the weapon for a moment) Fire (AoW Flaming Strike) Blood Flame (Spell) Black Flame (Spell) Magic (Spell) Holy (Spell or AoW Sacred Blade) Lightning (Spell or AoW Lightning Slash) Red Lightning (AoW Vyke's Dragonbolt) Blood (AoW Seppuku) Ice (Spell or AoW Chilling Mist) Poison (Spell or AoW Poisonous Mist) Scarlet Rot (Rot Grease) Sleep (Soporific Grease or AoW Mist of Slumber from Sword of St. Trina) Anti-Dragon (Dragonwound Grease) And some exclusives ones: Ghostflame (AoW of Helphen’s Steeple) Ice Lightning (AoW of Dragon Halberd or Dragonscale Blade) Death Flare (AoW of Eclipse Shotel) I hope you take it into consideration and Happy New Year pal 😊
As a melee fan, magic is fine. It's all easy enough to dodge and people who overly rely on a strong ability tend to be too bad to adapt to someone who can handle it.
Quick note, the Snow Witch Hat buffs cold sorceries, and the carian glintstone staff buffs the swords, including Adula's Moonblade. These buffs stack. In PvE, this combination is REALLY strong against large enemies, because it hits multiple times.
I've created a lot of human pancakes by putting on a bit of pressure with stuff like shard spiral or star shower, then trading with gavel of haima when the opponent rushes in to shut me down. Gavel of haima is definitely one of my favorites. It solves a lot of problems in PvE too.
Aberrant sorceries can also be a good combo tool. Gigasthicas has this mean combo of Sleep -> Briars of Sin -> Briars of Punishment. The first briar punish the sleep, and the second catch the roll.
There is 3 other category left apart from main categories which is Sacred seals(incantations) and Tools that have 4 damaging item(Wraith calling bell,Omen bairn,Regal omen bairn,Ancestral infant's head) and there is shileds too if you count maybe ash of wars too
The boosts that staves give you still apply if you have it in your off-hand and cast the actual spell with a different staff, btw. That's why it's better to have 1 high-scaling staff in your main hand, like carian regal sceptre(or lusat's glintstone staff if you're ok with 50% more fp cost), and then keep the staff that boosts the sorceries you are using in the off-hand. For NG+, some staves have a high enough boost to their class of sorceries that dual wielding them will give you more overall damage than the above mentioned combo, however it would obv only work for those sorceries in particular. Edit 1: Also, something to keep in mind, the claymen sorceries are better in pve. Or more specifically the great oracular bubble, you can use it as a set-up spell and fully charged I've seen it do like fucking 4k damage per hit. Plus the slow travel speed really fucks with enemies that have dodge ai Edit 2: From what I know Adula's moonblade and carian greatsword have the same animations and everything, so casting greatsword and then quickly switching to moonblade can catch people off guard since they won't expect a projectile Edit 3: Crystal torrent also is way better in pve. It's functionally identical to comet azur, but unlike that spell it actually has some tracking, only costs 1 spell slot instead of 3, and in general is just more practical. Comet azur is only good for very certain boss fights when you REALLY want that extra damage
Lesson of the day: Intelligence builds have the range of a bow build and the damage of a strength build. They are, in fact, incredibly unbalanced and unfun to chase a spellcaster only to get one shot. He won most of the fights and said himself that he did not use them before.
Thanks for your comments at the end, people hate magick because its annoying, ye the truth is, people hate anything that isnt a colossal weapon thats easy to dodge. The guy you fought who just switched to estoc and spammed R1 the whole match is an example.
Gelmir's fury feels random, but it definitely can do MASSIVE dmg. I melted some people from 0 to 100% doing 2k dmg with this thing. The problem is lack of hyperamor, so maybe using ironjar perfumes would work well.
Great video like always! I would like to mention though, the magma sorceries performed so poorly because the Gelmir staff scales off int AND faith, and you didn't have a lot of faith. A regular int staff would've resulted in much higher numbers. Also, the Carian Regal Scepter and Crystal Staff both get a huge boost in scaling if you go from 60 int to 80. That's where the sauce is. 🤤
This video was so great, especially as I sit here at my local Chilis gobbling down my Just Bacon Burger. One might say I'll have my own Ancient Death Rancor in the toilet afterwards... Cheers!
shattering crystal has me in shambles. First i saw Rennala using it and in her hands it SHREDS, once it oneshotted me! Then i got that spell myself, and not only it looks a bit different, it's also hits like a handful of confetti instead of sharp crystals! What a disappointment...
magic is just easy to dodge if you know it's coming. It takes a skilled caster using combos and usually some kind of melee pressure to land anything on a competent player
Founding Rain of Stars is not a by-itself spell. It's underwhelming because it's supposed to be, you cast it and then do other things while it's raining.
I think the biggest mistake people make when evaluating sorceries is that they focus solely on damage. Damage alone is a poor metric to judge a spell because it fails to take into account the other aspects of spell casting. Fp cost and utility effects like poise damage, tracking and cast time need to be taken into account. More damage does not equal more effective. If anything the more effective a spell is the harder it is to pull off with out set up. People are too quick to toss spells into the useless category because they fired it off once or twice saw damage that was low with out understanding why the damage was low. Spell hit boxes can be weird, their damages can be resisted, your staff scaling might not be good for where you are in the game or their purpose lies not in damage but it the utility.
You can think what you want but while melee is considered more unga bunga, you have to as a melee most times close distance, magic casters doesn't even have to move closer, they just press a button to fire nonsense at you, and you have to even dodge that to get closer to your target as a melee fighter, to even land a hit you have to make them mistime your attacks, and then you are back to the magic user running away again, the people thinking magic requires any actual skill are fools, if you optimize magic the damage output is insane, and it can be on swords to, but not in same league. Strength builds is the only build that lets you go above the max stat cap, but if you never hit a single hit, well you do 0 damage. The nastiest possible build is probably xbow or shortbow, cause the distance and speed you can achieve on that. The only limiting factor on wizard/sorc buils is the manapool, once it runs out, they have to resort to either bottles or some kinda offhand.
SORCERY LOCATIONS:
Briars of Punishment - Found under a tree before the long narrow bridge in the West Mountaintops of the Giants
Briars of Sin - Dropped by Fire-Thorn Sorcerer near the Artist’s Shack in Liurnia of the Lakes
Carian Greatsword - Can be purchased from the big peaceful turtle at the Church of Vows for 10,000 runes
Magic Glintblade - ^ 3,000 runes
Carian Phalanx - Sling Perceptor Seluvis 12,000 runes (Seluvis’s Rise)
Carian Retaliation - ^ 9,000 runes
Glintblade Phalanx, Carian Slicer - Give Royal House Scroll to big turtle, Seluvis, or Sellen
Carian Piercer - Dropped by a teardrop scarab in Caria Manor behind the eastern gardens
Lucidity, Magical Downpour - Dropped by Perceptor Miriam in Carian Study Hall
Great Oracular Bubble, and Oracle Bubble - Both found in Siofra River but it’s a lot to type and im on my phone so look up a tutorial lol
Adula’s Moonblade - Dropped by Glintstone Dragon Adula at the Cathedral of Manus Celes
Freezing Mist - Perceptor Seluvis 6,000 runes
Frozen Armament - Dropped by Teardrop Scarab behind Caria Manor
Glintstone Icecrag - Perceptor Seluvis 7,500 runes
Zamor Ice Storm - Zamor Ruins in the Mountaintops
Crystal Release - Dropped by Crystalians in Academy Crystal Cave
Crystal Torrent - Dropped by Putrid Crystalians in Sellia Hideaway
Shattering Crystal - Looted off corpse on the second floor of the Church of the Cuckoo in Raya Lucaria
Ancient Death Rancor - Death Rite Bird east of Raya Lucaria (must be at night)
Explosive Ghostflame - Death Rite Bird southeast of Apostate Derelict in Consecrated Snowfield (must be at night)
Fia’s Mist - Defeat Fia’s Champions in Deeproot Depths, which is north of the Across the Roots SoG
Rancorcall - Found in Stormveil Castle, it drops from a scarab that’s in the underground crypt of the castle
Tibia’s Summons - Defeat Tibia Mariner in Wyndham Ruins
Renalla’s Full Moon - Rennalla’s Remembrance
Ranni’s Dark Moon - Found in Chelona’s Rise of progressing through Ranni’s questline
Cannon of Haima - Found in a chest at the top of the Converted Fringe Tower (northeast Liurnia)
Comet - Found behind the bookless bookshelf before the Debate Parlor in Raya Lucaria
Crystal Burst - Drops from the old hag queen in the Demi-Human Forest Ruins (Weeping Peninsula)
Crystal Barrage - Sorceress Sellen 1,500 runes in Waypoint Ruins
Gavel of Haima - Found in chest on top of the Converted Fringe Tower (must have Erudition gesture to access)
Glintstone Arc - Can be bought for 1,500 runes from Sellen (Waypoint Ruins) or Thops (Church of Irith)
Glintstone Cometshard - 12,000 runes after giving Sellen, Seluvis or big turtle the Conspectus Scroll
Star Shower - ^ 10,000
Glintstone Pebble - 1,000 runes, Thops or Sellen
Glintstone Stars - 3,000 runes, Sellen
Great Glintstone Shard - 2,000 runes after giving Sellen, Seluvis, or big turtle the Academy Scroll
Swift Glintstone Shard - ^ 600 runes
Scholar’s Armament - 3,000 runes, Sellen
Scholar’s Shield - 2,500 runes, Sellen
Shard Spiral - 8,000 runes, Sellen after progressing through her quest
Starlight - 2,500 Thops
Terra Magica - Found in chest after taking the lift behind the Crystalian bosses in Academy Crystal Cave
Thops’s Barrier - Looted from Thops’s body at the end of his quest
Collapsing Stars - Found in chest in the War-Dead Catacombs (drop down into the rot in the first room)
Gravity Well - Dropped by Lesser Alabaster Lord near the giant rotating lift in Raya Lucaria
Metoerite - Royal Grave Evergaol
Rock Sling - Found in underground cellar part of the Street of Sages Ruins in Caelid
Meteorite of Astel - Dropped by Astel boss in Yelough Anix Tunnel (Consecrated Snowfield)
Loretta’s Greatbow - Dropped by Knight Loretta in Caria Manor
Loretta’s Mastery - Dropped by Knight Loretta in the Haligtree
Gelmir’s Fury - Given by Recusant Bernahl after doing his request in Volcano Manor
Magma Shot - Rewarded by Tanith after completing her first assassination
Rykard’s Rancor - Rykard’s Remembrance
Roiling Magma - Hermit Shack on Mt. Gelmir
Ambush Shard - Underground jail of Witchbane Ruins (Weeping Peninsula)
Eternal Darkness - Found inside Swamp Lookout Tower in Caelid, which south of the Church of the Plague
Night Comet - In chest that is in the central part of Sellia, Town of Sorcery
Night Maiden’s Mist - 5,000 runes from Gowry after completing his questline
Night Shard - ^ 4,000 runes
Unseen Form, Unseen Blade - Found at the top of Mirage Rise in Altus Plateau (puzzle)
Comet Azur - Given by Sorcerer Azur near Hermit Village on Mt. Gelmir
Founding Rain of Stars - In a chest found in Heretical Rise (Mountaintops)
Stars of Ruin - Given by Master Lusat who is found behind a seal in Sellia Hideaway
also Happy New Year gang
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I ain’t reading all that 🔥🔥🔥
Just so you know, the passive bonuses to spells from staves don't care which staff you're using. You can cast from one and get the bonus from the other. Same for seals. Also, the bonuses stack multiplicatively, so you can double up on the same casting tool!
I came here to say this. Some of these “duels” hurt my heart the way they were played. But then again setting limits is fun sometimes.
thats exactly why most of the spells sucked balls... this video is very underwhelming and should be redone
What does multiplicative mean
Does this mean that having lets say 2 clawmark seals will double boost bestial incants?
@@rishadkazi8698yes. Let's take the giants Seal as an example. Using a Giant's Flame or Flame Monk Incantations multiplies the scaling by 1.20. Having one Seal in each Hand cause them to apply both buffs multiplicative, so 1,20 x 1,20 = 1,44/ 44%more incant scaling.
It's really a shame that most games don't let you use water as a magic or power. The animations would be so fun to watch as you splash your enemies with water jets or tidal waves imo.
Water is an absolute nightmare to render and make it still look like water
@@Welshire01 yeah I know it’s difficult but I still think be nice to see more water powers in games. Also we have better technology now.
Hades does a good job with that exact thing, and the poseidon powers are some of the most op in the game
@@ethanwintersseveredhand it would indeed be very cool to have water spells
i feel same way about air/wind. abilities are barely represented in games
Fun fact: Full Moon Spells can "eat" projectile type spells, acting as a potential shield. That property also applies to Rennala's fight. It's not incredible on reaction but it can help against spam if you manage to pull it off.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but cold sorceries are boosted by 10 percent from Ranni’s hat. This also applies to Dark Moon, which means it’s boosted by the scepter and the hat.
You should re-try the magma sorceries using a different catalyst. The Gelmir staff has AWFUL spell scaling. Just hold it in your off hand and cast with an actually good staff.
It sucks that FromSoft made some of the staffs buff sticks instead of staffs you should actually use to cast
Yeah. Basically when it comes down to it, there are only like four viable staves in the game. Catalysts seem a bit better in diversity, but not much.@@monkwashere
10:35 “Oh god he’s sending out his dead family” 💀
Hey Monk! Great video! Just a quick note, the two clayman sorceries are boosted by the albinauric staff. And you can also use two of the same staff (or seal when incantation video is out) to boost it twice damage wise. Good stuff though.
I’ll make sure to optimize the seals for the incantations 👍
No, bubble spells are not boosted by the Albinauric Staff. No idea where you got that from but it's neither part of the staffs item description not is there any "hidden" bonus as part of the actual params (the file that lists all the weapon/spell/projectile behavior and such)
The only unique interaction with the Albinauric staff is increased bleed buildup with Thorn sorceries because of the arcane scaling.
I think Youwy was the one who talked about Loretta's GB vs Loretta's Mastery, and Mastery only hits a little bit harder, but also has an issue where the lowest arrow almost always hits the ground when it's fired flat, which will effectively make it deal less damage every time compared to normal Loretta's. You have to shoot it up to get that arrow not to hit the ground. Kind of a big oversight. I've seen a trick in PvP where people power up the spell and free aim upwards, then lock onto a player and release the shot before their character can angle back down. Then it arcs the shot up, and the tracking is good enough to take care of the rest.
The aberrant sorceries, though few in number, are truly fantastic in my experience. Briars of Sin is excellent for baiting out trades as not many people expect the third cast and try to go in for the trade only to proc bleed on themselves. Briars of Punishment is fantastic for casting at enemies who are far away as it can travel a crazy far distance and slowly build up bleed on enemies. I found that this kind of blood mage build works best with Alberich clothes, Staff of the Guilty in one hand, and the Albinauric staff in the other. You cast through the Albinaric staff for the increased damage and bleed build up, but get the boost to aberrant sorceries by simply holding the other staff. Truly an underrated build in my experience.
As a Loretta Mastery enjoyer I can share few tips:
1. Cast some aoe to keep people away from you and make your magic greatbow harder to be seen. (ice storm/mist/rain of stars
2. One arrow explodes earlier and messes up people's roll timing. If people just stand waiting for your shot - lock off, aim down and lock on again to make sure arrows will not explode at the same time
3. Charged arrows are actually AoE - one of the easiest ways to land it is to fire it right under your feet when somebody's trying to hit you.
Okay, so some pointers.
First, when making a sorcery build, you're gonna want an INT level of 80 for max DPS.
Next, even though some sorceries get buffs from specific staves, it doesn't matter. The best staves are Lusat's staff, Carian Regal Scepter, and Crystal Staff, and the amount of scaling they give will absolutely out-muscle whatever buffs the other staves can give.
BUT!
That doesn't mean you should ignore those buffing staves.
Just keep those staves in your off-hand, and use one of the three best staves as a primary.
If you keep the Staff of Loss in your left hand, and cast Night Comet with the Lusat's staff in your right hand, you'll get the buff from the Staff of Loss anyway.
Next, Crystal Barrage is absolutely not terrible, and can do thousands of damage points with the right setup, and it's ease of use, and FP efficiency can potentially make Crystal Torrent and Comet Azur obsolete.
Actually, the best staff is Azur. 40 vdex is incredibly powerful, especially considering that you can often get 1 more tali slot cause you might not need the vdex tali.
do the bonuses stack? for exmple, if i use the blue staff with the night staff in my left hand, am I getting both the night bonus and the spell cast time bonus?
@@noonehere6994 As long as the night staff is the one casting; yes.
the Clayman sorceries don't benefit from the Albinauric Staff, however the Aberrant sorceries will get additional bleed with the arcane scaling
Founding Rain of Stars defiantly needs to be buffed, but it's not entirely underwhelming. It's got some great bait potential as it shares it's casting animation with Stars of Ruin, and is likely to trick an opponent into rushing you.
Unfortunately tho stars of ruin is incredibly weak since the nerf. Founding and stars of ruin both need buffs.
The funny thing about that is that Founding Rain of Stars was actually Nerfed in a previous patch oddly enough and it wasn't even strong or anything pre nerf, I believe the nerf came in the same patch as the one that Stars of Ruin was nerfed in actually.
@@EnergyBurst2 Actually they just wrote the patch notes wrong. Founding wasn't nerfed.
@@fullfildreamz That so? Well if the case then that's good since even today it still doesn't feel like a particularly strong spell.
So as someone who has only really played Elden Ring, starting with magic made it real easy. Then starting character 2 as a melee fighter I felt like I was playing a completely different game 😅
I also did magic on my first play through and melee on the second one, but that actually made it easier for me (for most parts of the game) I think it relies really heavily on personal play style, since I rely heavily on stance pressure and roll attacks.
Edit: I am only talking about my pve experience here
Oh I totally agree. Most games I usually go magic but I enjoyed melee more than magic,,, in Elden Ring at least. Using magic definitely helped me learn move sets of enemies and prep for a melee run though so that was nice. My favorite run so far was my cold claymore with incantations or dual Blood Great Stars, great loadouts 😄
You finally learned whatever everyone has known for years
@@DUES_EX well, considering I just started playing these games in January 2023 I'd say I'm doing okay
@@DUES_EX *adds a tally to the "dudes with anime avatars being weird and hostile for no reason" board*
Glad to see some love for sorceries!
Though you kind of need dual staves and higher level to show how good these spells are. Going from 60 to 80 int would give you around 20% extra damage while melee gets around 10%. Plus 10-20% from dual wielding
doesn't matter which staff you actually cast with for the bonus, just need to be holding it, or have it on your hip to get the effect, as long as it's in an active weapon slot you're good
reason that faith guy was holding Azur's is for the cast speed buff, that works with incants too, but oddly they don't cost additional fp, unlike sorcery
crystal torrent is basically the kamehameha spell, but lower memory and fp cost, you really do have to free aim it on a good read to land it in pvp, but i argue it better than the beam
Watching you test the Primeval Sorceries using both fp-cost increasing staffs while having so little Mind is one of those moments that instills true suffering into my bones
This man is using all of his FP
Me watching in horror as you pair up the Lusat Staff and the Azur Staff, increasing the cost of some already expensive spells even further:
Anyways, if you wanna take another crack at sorceries, or need some help with incantations, try unlocking to throw the spell where your opponent is going to be. The default response to spells with long windups is to strafe and punish, so if you unlock to aim behind you then you're gonna have a lot less trouble hitting them, especially with spells that have little to no tracking like the Gelmir spells or Cannon of Haima. It might also be a good idea to aim the Roiling Magma at your feet as an area denial tool rather than trying to land it on your opponent, put some strategy into where you point your delayed kaboom.
Crystal release I had one really good use, getting a host panicked in a small room and it just melts them. Founding Rain of Stars is great chip damage and good to pair with shard spiral for massive bosses.
the staff buffs stack. a lot of ppl will use 2 staffs of loss and it does crazy dmg
Gelmir's staff get the most sorcery scaling by an even distribution of int and faith with a soft cap at 45/45.
After that the prince of death staff starts to scale better; i think that this is the primary reason why the damage was bad, you had not an optimized distribution of stats; still really interesting and nice video!
I like to use night maiden's mist in invasions as a zoning tool, it especially works well if you're in a catacomb or cave where you can block off an entire hall while launching projectiles through it.
Pair it with magma sorceries and you can fill an entire hallway with chip damaging AOEs
The gravity well spells i feel like are better used as a utility/when paired with something you can actually *pull* enemies into.
Like a mist cloud, magma pool, or a volcanic throwing pot
you can hit people over the head with your staffs when using sorceries, and it helps a ton, seriously, its something i used to do in dark souls 3, if someone is being annoying and closing the distance CONSTANTLY, slap em with your stick, if they persist you can just get FREE DAMAGE with it
Great Oracular Bubble has a niche use in PvE if you have the jump on a large enemy. Since it moves slow, you can have multiple projectiles inbound before the enemy even knows you're there
Founding Rain of Stars has 3 (and only 3) uses.
1. To discourage melee fighters from getting too close to you while you're casting something else.
2. In PvE, it can hit enemies hiding under ledges directly below you that you can't target with other Ranged attacks.
3. The Aesthetic
It may not be the best spell, but it's still one of my favorites.
Go full StoneDigger
Both Sorcerries are great with decent armor + iron jar aromatic to boost poise. Walk people down. Pickaxe is fun to use as well. They even have throwables.
So, it might seam unbelievable, but I was on my way to try an Int faith hybrid build that was going to contain Rykard rancor as one of the main spell, so it’s kinda the first time I will be interested into spells
use sword of night and flame please i used it on my first playthrough and holy shit man that weapon is great i love it
@@artyy3742 golden order incarnations could be good too as well as death sorceries (at least I hope so)
Dude is the only person I've ever seen that not only landed a full tibia's summons, but won with a single cast.
Great Oracular Bubble is so fun in PvE! It deals really good damage, especially if you maximize on magic damage buffs, and you can set up multiple bubbles at once because of their slow movement and long projectile lifespan!
Hi Monk, you could do a "Testing every weapon buff to see their beautiful colors" video or something like that, the buffs I had seen are
Cragblade AoW
Royal Knight's Resolve AoW (I know is not exactly a weapon buff but it changes the color of the weapon for a moment)
Fire (AoW Flaming Strike)
Blood Flame (Spell)
Black Flame (Spell)
Magic (Spell)
Holy (Spell or AoW Sacred Blade)
Lightning (Spell or AoW Lightning Slash)
Red Lightning (AoW Vyke's Dragonbolt)
Blood (AoW Seppuku)
Ice (Spell or AoW Chilling Mist)
Poison (Spell or AoW Poisonous Mist)
Scarlet Rot (Rot Grease)
Sleep (Soporific Grease or AoW Mist of Slumber from Sword of St. Trina)
Anti-Dragon (Dragonwound Grease)
And some exclusives ones:
Ghostflame (AoW of Helphen’s Steeple)
Ice Lightning (AoW of Dragon Halberd or Dragonscale Blade)
Death Flare (AoW of Eclipse Shotel)
I hope you take it into consideration and Happy New Year pal 😊
Crystal torrent is actually quite powerful in PvE; its the poor man's Comet Azur, but it's much cheaper and uses just one spell slot.
With the crystal staff and enough magic buffs it can honestly rival comet azure.
As a melee fan, magic is fine. It's all easy enough to dodge and people who overly rely on a strong ability tend to be too bad to adapt to someone who can handle it.
Quick note, the Snow Witch Hat buffs cold sorceries, and the carian glintstone staff buffs the swords, including Adula's Moonblade. These buffs stack. In PvE, this combination is REALLY strong against large enemies, because it hits multiple times.
I've created a lot of human pancakes by putting on a bit of pressure with stuff like shard spiral or star shower, then trading with gavel of haima when the opponent rushes in to shut me down. Gavel of haima is definitely one of my favorites. It solves a lot of problems in PvE too.
Aberrant sorceries can also be a good combo tool. Gigasthicas has this mean combo of Sleep -> Briars of Sin -> Briars of Punishment. The first briar punish the sleep, and the second catch the roll.
Bubble spells are great with gravity sorceries to pull enemies into the bubbles. You can also cast them while uncharged to get them out much faster.
Massive problem for you were nonexistent casting speed due to lack of dexterity, or staff of Azur
Does he even equip radagon icon?
There is 3 other category left apart from main categories which is Sacred seals(incantations) and Tools that have 4 damaging item(Wraith calling bell,Omen bairn,Regal omen bairn,Ancestral infant's head) and there is shileds too if you count maybe ash of wars too
The boosts that staves give you still apply if you have it in your off-hand and cast the actual spell with a different staff, btw. That's why it's better to have 1 high-scaling staff in your main hand, like carian regal sceptre(or lusat's glintstone staff if you're ok with 50% more fp cost), and then keep the staff that boosts the sorceries you are using in the off-hand. For NG+, some staves have a high enough boost to their class of sorceries that dual wielding them will give you more overall damage than the above mentioned combo, however it would obv only work for those sorceries in particular.
Edit 1: Also, something to keep in mind, the claymen sorceries are better in pve. Or more specifically the great oracular bubble, you can use it as a set-up spell and fully charged I've seen it do like fucking 4k damage per hit. Plus the slow travel speed really fucks with enemies that have dodge ai
Edit 2: From what I know Adula's moonblade and carian greatsword have the same animations and everything, so casting greatsword and then quickly switching to moonblade can catch people off guard since they won't expect a projectile
Edit 3: Crystal torrent also is way better in pve. It's functionally identical to comet azur, but unlike that spell it actually has some tracking, only costs 1 spell slot instead of 3, and in general is just more practical. Comet azur is only good for very certain boss fights when you REALLY want that extra damage
Lesson of the day: Intelligence builds have the range of a bow build and the damage of a strength build. They are, in fact, incredibly unbalanced and unfun to chase a spellcaster only to get one shot. He won most of the fights and said himself that he did not use them before.
Thanks for your comments at the end, people hate magick because its annoying, ye the truth is, people hate anything that isnt a colossal weapon thats easy to dodge. The guy you fought who just switched to estoc and spammed R1 the whole match is an example.
8:50 in pve the great bubble does about as much damage as the moons when fully charged, without any crazy fp or spell slot requirements
Magma sorceries benefit from free aiming. Just like pyromancy in prior souls games.
Big thing about Zamor Ice Storm is that it blows away most physical projectiles, so it's main use is actually as a spacing tool.
just seeing you bully that guy with the nightrider's glaive with the spinning staff just feels surreal
Gelmir's fury feels random, but it definitely can do MASSIVE dmg. I melted some people from 0 to 100% doing 2k dmg with this thing. The problem is lack of hyperamor, so maybe using ironjar perfumes would work well.
Crystal Torrent is, in my experience, best used like Comet Azure with less FP cost
Did you just call carian slicer a DAGGER??
Half of the power of sorceries comes from the right scaling and having the right talismans attached.
I wish the bubble spells gave the wet debuff effect would give it more niche use
the oracle bubbles are very effective against imps. They just back into the bubbles
Great video like always! I would like to mention though, the magma sorceries performed so poorly because the Gelmir staff scales off int AND faith, and you didn't have a lot of faith. A regular int staff would've resulted in much higher numbers. Also, the Carian Regal Scepter and Crystal Staff both get a huge boost in scaling if you go from 60 int to 80. That's where the sauce is. 🤤
Give this man dlc pls
i’m starting to lose it
@@monkwashere aren't we all
Me watching Monk shit on the crystal spells while they’re some of the best PVE spells in the game. 😭
My PvP brain is too smooth
They still deserve some big buffs for pvp. They deserve to be so much better.
Shattering Crystal is probably my favorite spell in the game.
Its a magic shotgun loaded with crystal flak, *yes please*
5:40
That was probably a real connection error, and you clowned them
This video was so great, especially as I sit here at my local Chilis gobbling down my Just Bacon Burger. One might say I'll have my own Ancient Death Rancor in the toilet afterwards... Cheers!
You look impressed
Opponent: *Claps*
I swear Monk is the only guy with open mic in this game
carian slicer into piercer, roll catches a lot of the time
rykards rancor is so much like.. stimulant polution, it gets hard to keep track of when used with other spells
49:51 that weather change
your internet did not like you playing with sorceries on that day god damn
shattering crystal has me in shambles. First i saw Rennala using it and in her hands it SHREDS, once it oneshotted me! Then i got that spell myself, and not only it looks a bit different, it's also hits like a handful of confetti instead of sharp crystals! What a disappointment...
I love how 41 was clapping after you asked him if he was impressed
Next video: trying every pot is JARRING lol
After Incantations, I don’t see why not lol
What I got out of this is that spinning staff is the best spell in the game.
magic is just easy to dodge if you know it's coming. It takes a skilled caster using combos and usually some kind of melee pressure to land anything on a competent player
can't wait for the two hour incantations video, I'll be bustin out the popcorn
Makes me sad that no one ever talks about "infinite" "chain" casting gavel of haima with 2 staves 🥺😢
That's basically a war crime
Look forward for the incantations showcase
Wait, are duels decided by who falls 1st? Because at 8:05 Monk died before the other guy, but it gave it to him because the other guy fell 1st?
Yes, it was the same way in ds3
I hope that the DLC expands on the Blood magic
Founding Rain of Stars is not a by-itself spell.
It's underwhelming because it's supposed to be, you cast it and then do other things while it's raining.
40:41 certified king shiiii for clapping
Bro clapping for the Gelmir fury was the best lol
Adula's MB got nerfed so hard you can kill a boss before it procs frostbite once :(
Meteor spells do physical damage, perfect for enemies with high magic resistance.
JESUS you gonna try every blade of grass now or something
magic is always hard for me. pulling from a limited pool is just cringe to my brain cause i could just be bonking them for free
As weird as it sounds Azur's Crown actually boosts Comet's damage.
Unless it got patched out that is.
The thorn sorcererys are also boosted by the alburichs set
(Im a bad speller)
I think the biggest mistake people make when evaluating sorceries is that they focus solely on damage. Damage alone is a poor metric to judge a spell because it fails to take into account the other aspects of spell casting. Fp cost and utility effects like poise damage, tracking and cast time need to be taken into account. More damage does not equal more effective. If anything the more effective a spell is the harder it is to pull off with out set up. People are too quick to toss spells into the useless category because they fired it off once or twice saw damage that was low with out understanding why the damage was low. Spell hit boxes can be weird, their damages can be resisted, your staff scaling might not be good for where you are in the game or their purpose lies not in damage but it the utility.
Clearly Fromsoft didn’t have enough INT for Crystal Torrent when they designed it.
Hey! Aexadir here! It was a great duel :)
Btw, you pronounced my name right lol coodos to ya
i mean at the end of the day it all boils down to:
"i spam 1 attack with my bonk stick"
or
"i spam 1 spell with my staff"
not much different really
a man of simplicity i see🙏
Crystal torrent is pretty good as a comet azur substitute
Monk i love your content, keep going and dont stop!
These videos are awesome cant imagine the time it takes
Hey man, your videos are awesome and super entertaining, just wondering, what are your armor pieces called. I love your armor setup!
Crystal torrent is "We have Comet Azur at home".
Now we need all incantations edition
I think testing these only on pvp is a bit underwelming since most people have a very easy time dodging them.
Comet Azure is a Kamehameha on a stick. It's weird.
'testing every ash of war for your pleasure'
seen a lot of people say magic is shit my first question is always did you upgrade your staff "they never do"
I've never DC'd before, but if I would, it would be to a mage, and it'd be totally justified.
favorite spell is light attack moonveil
You can think what you want but while melee is considered more unga bunga, you have to as a melee most times close distance, magic casters doesn't even have to move closer, they just press a button to fire nonsense at you, and you have to even dodge that to get closer to your target as a melee fighter, to even land a hit you have to make them mistime your attacks, and then you are back to the magic user running away again, the people thinking magic requires any actual skill are fools, if you optimize magic the damage output is insane, and it can be on swords to, but not in same league. Strength builds is the only build that lets you go above the max stat cap, but if you never hit a single hit, well you do 0 damage. The nastiest possible build is probably xbow or shortbow, cause the distance and speed you can achieve on that. The only limiting factor on wizard/sorc buils is the manapool, once it runs out, they have to resort to either bottles or some kinda offhand.