I've been collecting watches since I was a teenager, I'm 76 now, and I love valjoux, eta movements. More rugged and serviceable than some of the more expensive fragile movements.
I purchased this movement set within a Hamilton case, for my twenty fifth birthday, new. As a mariner by profession, I sought this in particular for a durable, accurate chronograph for Yacht-racing, which was a large part of my profession back then. My intention was to have something robust and serviceable, which hopefully I can retain, maintain and utilize for my lifetime, without need of replacement. The only watch, (I do collect them) which I ever purchased new, my 7750 has required overhaul four times in nearly thirty years, and considering my lifestyle, (shipwright and sea captain by trade) for these decades, I feel I had made an excellent choice. Likely the best possible choice back then. So I whole-heartedly endorse your astute and excellent description of the little technical marvel, as I can attest to this personally. Now, I’m finding it absolutely impossible to locate my next watchmaker to perform my fifth overhaul, as they’ve seemed to one by one bow-out of the profession... at least around the territory where I reside, (Northern California, SF Bay Area). So I’m going to do this one myself this time. I simply lack a few key tools for this procedure, which once obtained, I will with joyous intrigue, and very carefully, methodically, delight in overhauling this magnificent piece of what I consider an epitome of elegant, utilitarian timepiece design. Thank you for your endorsements of this favored movement of mine, it’s been most informative! Cheers, -Cpt. Loyal Tarbet
Not sure what spec is your Hamilton but some 7750 in the swatch group now uses quite a few plastic parts. They are definitely not serviceable. And I'm sure spec sheet will suggest a swap out at servicing time for some of these parts.
I agree with you. It is a higher engineering achievement to create a reliable, robust, adaptable movement than a finely crafted movement that has to have great care taken of it. A watch is a tool for me. A beautiful tool, but a tool nonetheless.
There are many more robust in house manufacture integrated chronograph movements than you probably know. I look at the Valjoux 7750 as the copium masterpiece.
Yes. for some time the 7750 was used by an immense amount of brands. It was practically the only caliber with which it was possible for these brands to enter into the world of chronographs. At a time where there were very few options, ETA 2894 (Dubois Depraz), the Lemania module in the ETA 2892 or in the Audemars movement, the Lemania movements for Omega, mainly, the Zenith El Primero movement and the Frédérick Piguet caliber for some few, at that time, the 7750 was one of the best options, because of its reliability, durability, because of the possibility to integrate complications. A great option. Today watchmaking has become extremely sophisticated, and the 7750 appears even as too simple, but very few have achieved the qualities of this caliber.
@@greggc.touftree5936 I can, just search for the patent of this 7750 movement. In the description it will say what other patents the use to make this one.
Your knowledge of horology has once again allowed you to create a great video. Putting this movement into a historical context really illustrates how it was a real game changer. Thanks for sharing.
It maybe a bit chunky but is reliable, and most watchmakers can service the movement. At the end of the day the number of watches that house it speaks volumes! Thanks for the video. Happy Christmas
Yeah it's thick. That's the only thing with these. It'll be fine in something like a breitling but on most models for example the sinn it looks great from the dial with great proportions but it sits higher than expected. Literally swings about when wearing it
7750 in my Longines heritage 1954 chronograph is my most accurate auto chrono - ultra reliable workhorse. Easily maintained. Great news your podcast is coming to iTunes. I’ll be an instant subscriber. Best wishes.
My favourite movement.. Great to see a knowledgeable enthusiast recognise its advantages. Chunky and agricultural maybe.. But Lamborghini built tractors before sports cars. There is a lot to be said for simplicity. As ever great content. Many thanks armand
My Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer with the Caliber H-31 (basically a 7750 with a 60 hour power reserve) is +2.6 secs/day on the timegrapher, tested last month. I've had it for 2 years already. It even runs better than my Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN which is also 2 years old and is at +3 secs/day. The Rolex gets more wrist time though, so it's probably wearing out faster.
@@SharapovaFan Guess whilst others can be on par with Rolex accuracy wise, what longevity concerns, the robust Rolex is top. My 1st Submariner I bought 1975, still exists tdy. During these 45yrs it had 3 services n still runs a steady +5s/d. No other Seiko, Omega or IWC came that far, my experience.
@@achimkohlhage1328 My Omega Speedmaster Triple Date with an Omega Caliber 1151 (pretty much a Valjoux 7750) is 20 years old, my oldest 7750 watch. Last service was around 5-6 years ago and it still keeps great time. +4.4 secs/day with 260ish amplitude as per timegrapher measured last month.
I just got a Longines with the 7750 in it. While I haven't had it long, it was originally purchased in 2010 and, by my reckoning, looks like it's running fine and only about 2 seconds per day fast.
Great content giving this movement the credit it truly deserves! The ETA 2892 movement also is fantastic! If I had not become such an openly admitted watch snob lured away by these in-house movements, you present a clear and compelling argument that these movements are truly the only movements you really need! I must say that I have to agree with your perspective and so would my wallet.
Well done Armand, I think this is one of your best programs. You make some great points on a number of issues, for instance the return rate on some newly developed ultra thin movements. This sort of objective information is not often seen in the watch space, with most presenters dwelling on the intangibles of various watches. Consequently one sees fewer enthusiasts consider the qualities of durability, serviceability and reliability as important, instead going on about new, in house, ultra shiney or ultra thin calibres.. Thanks for your informative, well written piece.
I'll vouch for the Valjoux 7750. I've got 6 watches with Valjoux 77xx movements (or based on it, such as the Caliber H-31 on my Hamilton) and they run like a dream. My oldest Valjoux 7750 watch is my Omega Speedmaster Triple Date which is already 20 years old. Last service was more than 5 or 6 years ago and it still keeps time at +4 secs/day with amplitude at around 260 on the timegrapher, measured Dec 2019. Only thing I don't like about the Valjoux 7750 is the "hardness" of the engaging the stopwatch. But other than that, all the Valjoux 7750s watches I have are a pleasure to own.
Very interesting video. The now discontinued Lemania 5100 was also a famously robust movement. Used in the Sinn 140/142 and Fortis Cosmonaute. Apparently it can tolerate 7G of shock and the military were disappointed when the Swatch Group stopped producing it (apparently because it was too ugly!).
Re-watching this after a couple of years..! Such a good video. And as a few have commented, any half decent engineer can turn in something good at a high price, with high service liability and dubious reliability. Few can produce supreme functionality that does not entail excessive cost or maintenance. This is also why I greatly respect Seiko and Japanese engineering. But here, the Swiss did a great, Victorinox-like job! Richard Habring took it to the next level... huh, back when IWC made great watches!
I do own and wear Omega Speedmaster Day Date with Omega Cal. 1151 (ETA 7751 based) on daily basis. I concur to its robustness, reliable and reasonable accuracy that satisfied me every occasions. PS. Thank you Mr. Edmond Capt for creating this wonderful workhorse.
I had my heart set on saving up and buying a F. Piguet 1185 flyback chrono, but there's an Omega Speedy with a modified split second Valjoux 7750 at a local jeweler that seems a lot more appealing after watching this passionate, tasteful and knowledgeable commentary. Really great stuff, I learned from Tim Mosso that unidirectional winding is more efficient but now I know the reason why!
The key issue is, that ETA7750 has been around for a while and most watch manufacturers used it in one form, or another. All independent watch repairers are familiar with the movement and parts are freely available.
Great video which covered many, many bases. The little variations of the 7750 which are (ex. 7753) another grey zone which many of us are not familiar with. These are variations of the 7750 into other types: the 7753 is a very close looking Rolex display. The choice of cases are made by the movement: some cases will have a hidden pusher (left side) to change more easily certain info. A fine flexible base of a movement which has no equal 👌❤️👍. Keep safe! John
i like that the 7750 is the only movement that tell me when the watch is fully wound. i really like that, and wish other movements (swiss or not) to have the same feature
Very Good Video, the 7750 is the working mans chronograph that you can buy on pieces under 800.00 dollars or on as all second Panerai that cost 10 times as much! I’ve got a couple Swiss brand chronograph pieces that run this wonderful movement and one of the Panerai Submersible pieces that use it not for the chronograph but for the fact it’s easy to work on or build onto its base. It’s just a wonderful movement that has been in so many cases in so many different price ranges at one time I had an Accutron VX-200 chronograph 43mm dive watch, 200 meter, day & date wheel with rotating bezel and a stunning 13 piece bracelet that used the 7750 that cost me new round 400 US Dollars 😉👍🌟🌟🌟 I really miss that watch‼️♥️🖤
Just got my first 7750 derived watch in the form of a Hamilton Aviation Auto Chrono Converter - the only fully mechanical navitimer-style watch from a reputable brand with a water resistance of 100m. Absolutely love it and the H-21-Si movement within. Only thing that surprised me is that the quickset danger hours are 7pm to 3am- two hours more than the 9pm to 3am danger hours on most other quickset dates.
Yeah i really have deep respect to that movement. Not long ago i finally found a example of Oris 7415 that suits my condition requirements. Im really happy with it and fascinated by advanced coupling of chronograph. When engaging it one needs to press and hold the activation pusher for smooth engagement. I learned that from Tim Mosso videos and it really works every time with out fault
The 7750 automatic chrono with day and date movement is the best that I've owned. I particularly like the movement's accuracy and the minimal turns of the crown it needs for hand winding. The day and date are unusually easy to set as well.
7750…equivalent automatic K from 1947 28…rounds of rock and roll 🎸 My will for my great grand kids… 10m commercial / 2m residential and 5m s&p500.. MY MOST PRIZED ITEM!! 7750 from my cold dead hands… the movement I timed for every 30min open house and 8hour sleep every night😘
The 7750 is used by some really prestigious brands, but, I owned 3 watches with the movement, one of which was the 7751. I discovered that, if you start timing an event that requires you to stop and start the chrono multiple times without resetting it to zero, the hours hand of the chrono does not accurately keep track of total elapsed time. Upon discovering it I tested this on the remaining 2 watches and found that the "flaw" was present in all 3. These were a Longines and 2 Sinn chronos. I got rid of them because my first principle in buying a watch is the movement.
Thanks, an Excellent video. I too am speaking with my peers on the virtues of ETA and Valjoux. They seem to think that ETA is bad. That all brands simply "plonk" an ETA movement in the case. The also think that ETA has one movement ... the ETA.
Thanks, good video as always. I ordered a Habring² in late September, January it will be mine. I live about an hours drive from them so thats convenient and i got me a little special too. If you dont know them, talk to Maria, unbelievably nice persons. Have fun times.
+ Aslaid IhaveNoIdea: Congratulations! I wish you the best of health in wearing it! As you say, Maria has always been delightful whenever I have communicated with the brand.
@@ArmandTheWatchGuy I sat there with a friend for more than 90 min and i was never of the impression of being in a sales talk. And the fact that you are basically sitting in their living room... I love me a big factory tour, but there it is 6 peeps. Me likey.
Reliability and accuracy are very important. As a microbrand I hate to have service returns. Weird movements do lead to this I know now. Fancy but not nice. All 7750’s that have been on my timing machine were very accurate. In all 6 positions. Chronometer or not, all very accurate. It will be featured in my first chronograph watch for a reason!
Great video. I have the 7750 in an Omega Speedmaster triple date, IWC Pilot Chronograph, and as the 7751 in a new Longines Moonphase triple date chrono. I just bought a 2nd hand Fortis Fleiger chrono with the 7750 and it is more accurate than my new TAG Heuer 1887 chrono! Such a sturdy beast is the 7750.
Does the 7750 need oiling every ten or so years? I'm hearing the mechanism and unsure if it needs replacing or just oiling. What's the cost on both. ty
I have a Bulova Valjoux 7750 chronograph and it was the watch that, as a collector, I found out that automatic chronographs 'only' evolved in the 60s into the 70s! I'd assumed that it was much earlier. BTW presumably they did wind their Omegas on the moon by hand?
You should a video on the 2824, and the 2892, and basically a series that covers the most used or interesting movements in the market today. I would love that (and so would everybody else I'm sure.)
Very useful video, I have a question I'm looking forward to modified my Hamilton Jazzmaster hands, so are the Hamilton calibre H-21 movement have the same hands hole's size as the ETA valjoux 7750 ?
The 7750 is the Small Block Chevy V8 of the watch world. Simple, reliable and performs well even if it isn't necessarily an engineering marvel. I love them.
How much does this movement cost? Searching the web I’ve found £300-£500. If that’s right, I’m feeling sick because I bought an IWC for £5,500 with this movement.BTW, can you name the music you open each vid with pls? Thanks.
This is normal. If you change the date first, then day, the pull the crown to time setting, the day will jump back a day. If you change the day first, then date, it won't happen. Alternatively, after setting the day, push the crown in, then pull it out again to date setting and change the day, then time. Just a quirk with this movement, nothing to worry about
@@8AP1thanks for confirming this. Indeed a quirk of the movement. It’s weird i only discovered this last month even though I’ve handled dozens of of 7750 base watches.
@@nathanwabre yes, I had a similar experience, despite having handled 5 7750's prior. My watch went back for warranty for a different issue (loose crown gasket), and I made a note of the day issue in warranty notes. The watchmaker inspected it and said its normal and reproduced on two other 7750s he had on his bench. I have never noticed it before, but maybe I have changed the day first previously
@@8AP1 very similar experience with other my IWC. Mine features the calibre 79320 which is a modified 7750 has “suffers” from the same quirk. IWC confirmed to me that this is normal indeed
Thank you for your very informative video. I have been wondering why the 7750 with its 8Hz beat has the chronograph second geared to 1/5 second. Was this done because one can read 1/5 sec but 1/8 sec would be too hard to read?
I always get lemons. I just bought an expensive (for me) Tissot Heritage 1973 Chronograph (7753) and I'm returning it. The auto-winding rotor hardly moves it sticks or something. In 9 days it stopped on me three times including on my wrist and on a watch winder. I'm very disappointed because it's a beauty.
That's too bad. I was looking seriously at that watch, but decided against it because it would be too big on my wrist. Lovely looking design, though. Did you get a new one?
On my Hamilton X wind with the H21(Valjoux 7750), the day and date engage at around 11:40, don't fully flip over till 12:20 and 12:35 respectively. Is that normal ?
I have tag heuer 2000 exclusive with this movement. My only critism would be the pushers are a little heavy handed. But after 10years it still runs around 3 seconds every 2 days.. would love to get an exhibition back for it.
There seems to be a good deal of dispute on the forums as to whether or not the Longines L688 does in fact have a vertical clutch. There’s some seemingly very informed contributors (including a couple of watchmakers) who are adamant that the L688 and its heavily reworked relative, the Omega 3330, are in fact both horizontal clutch chronographs. You state it’s vertical: can you confirm?
Antony Mort My thoughts entirely. Thank you for your comment. It just goes to show how one has to take what’s heard on the forums and on UA-cam with a pinch of salt.
I have one 7750 and one 4130 watch and both are close, but the column wheel and vertical clutch are just slightly better IMHO. The real issue is one can be used by multiple brands while the other just one.
Валжутата са прекрасни - точни, солидни, здрави, има и части за тях, че и престижни - последното донякъде зависи от гледната точка. Лично за мен - горната граница на разумното харчене за часовник. След като малко сте го носили, се убеждавате веднага, че не ви е необходим часовник с 3 стрелки, Горещо препоръчвам. Бог да дава живот и здраве на Едмонд Капт !
Hoping someone can answer this...Should I run the chronograph (on a V7750) every now and then so that parts don't get stuck inside, or not run it at all (unless I have to, which I never do) to avoid needless wear/tear? In other words, is there desired happy medium to running/not running it? My goal is to never need to service the watch more than 1x every 5 years (it's a Sinn chronograph, by the way).
I recently bought a used Tag Heuer Carrera. It keeps great time, losing less than a second a day, but I noticed today that the date changes over at around 9:00pm. Is this normal, or should I have it looked at, or maybe even serviced. I believe the watch is about 10 years old.
I can buy this movement for 12 dollars on ebay or Amazon. So Rolex Daytona price is only reflected in its artificial backlog. Somewhat like diamonds. While Rolex is Iconic. The biggest thing is the slow rollout of its products. This artificially creates high prices
Great episode. can you do an episode explaining why the Omega 321 is so highly revered engineering wise? Let's forget about the moon landing hype. Maybe compare it to the 3861 on a purely engineering basis. How does it stack up?
@@ArmandTheWatchGuy Looking forward to it. love the in-depth engineering which isn't covered elsewhere. eg. discussion of bidirectional vs unidirectional efficiency etc.
I've been collecting watches since I was a teenager, I'm 76 now, and I love valjoux, eta movements. More rugged and serviceable than some of the more expensive fragile movements.
I’d love to see that collection!
I purchased this movement set within a Hamilton case, for my twenty fifth birthday, new. As a mariner by profession, I sought this in particular for a durable, accurate chronograph for Yacht-racing, which was a large part of my profession back then. My intention was to have something robust and serviceable, which hopefully I can retain, maintain and utilize for my lifetime, without need of replacement. The only watch, (I do collect them) which I ever purchased new, my 7750 has required overhaul four times in nearly thirty years, and considering my lifestyle, (shipwright and sea captain by trade) for these decades, I feel I had made an excellent choice. Likely the best possible choice back then. So I whole-heartedly endorse your astute and excellent description of the little technical marvel, as I can attest to this personally. Now, I’m finding it absolutely impossible to locate my next watchmaker to perform my fifth overhaul, as they’ve seemed to one by one bow-out of the profession... at least around the territory where I reside, (Northern California, SF Bay Area).
So I’m going to do this one myself this time. I simply lack a few key tools for this procedure, which once obtained, I will with joyous intrigue, and very carefully, methodically, delight in overhauling this magnificent piece of what I consider an epitome of elegant, utilitarian timepiece design.
Thank you for your endorsements of this favored movement of mine, it’s been most informative!
Cheers,
-Cpt. Loyal Tarbet
Not sure what spec is your Hamilton but some 7750 in the swatch group now uses quite a few plastic parts. They are definitely not serviceable. And I'm sure spec sheet will suggest a swap out at servicing time for some of these parts.
I agree with you. It is a higher engineering achievement to create a reliable, robust, adaptable movement than a finely crafted movement that has to have great care taken of it. A watch is a tool for me. A beautiful tool, but a tool nonetheless.
Happy Wanderer the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
Then buy a seiko
There are many more robust in house manufacture integrated chronograph movements than you probably know. I look at the Valjoux 7750 as the copium masterpiece.
Yes. for some time the 7750 was used by an immense amount of brands. It was practically the only caliber with which it was possible for these brands to enter into the world of chronographs. At a time where there were very few options, ETA 2894 (Dubois Depraz), the Lemania module in the ETA 2892 or in the Audemars movement, the Lemania movements for Omega, mainly, the Zenith El Primero movement and the Frédérick Piguet caliber for some few, at that time, the 7750 was one of the best options, because of its reliability, durability, because of the possibility to integrate complications. A great option. Today watchmaking has become extremely sophisticated, and the 7750 appears even as too simple, but very few have achieved the qualities of this caliber.
lee S the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
@@YouGetBlocked Provide proof
@@greggc.touftree5936 I can, just search for the patent of this 7750 movement. In the description it will say what other patents the use to make this one.
I picked up the Tissot PRX chrono 42mm with the Valjoux 7753 date pusher.
finally someone disected 7750 for us. untill now there was nothing on YT on it. plenty to read but nothing to watch while sipping coffee. kudos!
Your knowledge of horology has once again allowed you to create a great video. Putting this movement into a historical context really illustrates how it was a real game changer. Thanks for sharing.
It maybe a bit chunky but is reliable, and most watchmakers can service the movement. At the end of the day the number of watches that house it speaks volumes! Thanks for the video. Happy Christmas
Jim Begin the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
It's not even that chunky, honestly. Anything under 15mm I find to be perfectly wearable, but obviously that's just my opinion.
Yeah it's thick. That's the only thing with these. It'll be fine in something like a breitling but on most models for example the sinn it looks great from the dial with great proportions but it sits higher than expected. Literally swings about when wearing it
7750 in my Longines heritage 1954 chronograph is my most accurate auto chrono - ultra reliable workhorse. Easily maintained.
Great news your podcast is coming to iTunes. I’ll be an instant subscriber.
Best wishes.
The 7750 is my favorite movement... my good old Sinn 103 St Sa just runs and runs, and keeps wonderful time.
My favourite movement.. Great to see a knowledgeable enthusiast recognise its advantages. Chunky and agricultural maybe.. But Lamborghini built tractors before sports cars. There is a lot to be said for simplicity. As ever great content. Many thanks armand
During 40yrs of chronographing no 7750 left me stranded. Regulated carefully it can achieve Rolex standards at its best. Achim, Singapore+
Achim Kohlhage the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
@@YouGetBlocked Wow, tks for telling.
My Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer with the Caliber H-31 (basically a 7750 with a 60 hour power reserve) is +2.6 secs/day on the timegrapher, tested last month. I've had it for 2 years already. It even runs better than my Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN which is also 2 years old and is at +3 secs/day. The Rolex gets more wrist time though, so it's probably wearing out faster.
@@SharapovaFan Guess whilst others can be on par with Rolex accuracy wise, what longevity concerns, the robust Rolex is top. My 1st Submariner I bought 1975, still exists tdy. During these 45yrs it had 3 services n still runs a steady +5s/d. No other Seiko, Omega or IWC came that far, my experience.
@@achimkohlhage1328 My Omega Speedmaster Triple Date with an Omega Caliber 1151 (pretty much a Valjoux 7750) is 20 years old, my oldest 7750 watch. Last service was around 5-6 years ago and it still keeps great time. +4.4 secs/day with 260ish amplitude as per timegrapher measured last month.
I've worn the same OMEGA for the past 7 years with this movement, at least a version of it. Operating flawlessly.
I just got a Longines with the 7750 in it. While I haven't had it long, it was originally purchased in 2010 and, by my reckoning, looks like it's running fine and only about 2 seconds per day fast.
Great content giving this movement the credit it truly deserves! The ETA 2892 movement also is fantastic! If I had not become such an openly admitted watch snob lured away by these in-house movements, you present a clear and compelling argument that these movements are truly the only movements you really need! I must say that I have to agree with your perspective and so would my wallet.
Well done Armand, I think this is one of your best programs. You make some great points on a number of issues, for instance the return rate on some newly developed ultra thin movements. This sort of objective information is not often seen in the watch space, with most presenters dwelling on the intangibles of various watches. Consequently one sees fewer enthusiasts consider the qualities of durability, serviceability and reliability as important, instead going on about new, in house, ultra shiney or ultra thin calibres.. Thanks for your informative, well written piece.
Randy Allen the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
@@YouGetBlocked stop spamming your comment dumbass
@@YouGetBlocked Wow, look, a guy on a mission!
The super bike/ Honda cub analogy is brilliant
I'll vouch for the Valjoux 7750. I've got 6 watches with Valjoux 77xx movements (or based on it, such as the Caliber H-31 on my Hamilton) and they run like a dream. My oldest Valjoux 7750 watch is my Omega Speedmaster Triple Date which is already 20 years old. Last service was more than 5 or 6 years ago and it still keeps time at +4 secs/day with amplitude at around 260 on the timegrapher, measured Dec 2019. Only thing I don't like about the Valjoux 7750 is the "hardness" of the engaging the stopwatch. But other than that, all the Valjoux 7750s watches I have are a pleasure to own.
Very interesting video. The now discontinued Lemania 5100 was also a famously robust movement. Used in the Sinn 140/142 and Fortis Cosmonaute. Apparently it can tolerate 7G of shock and the military were disappointed when the Swatch Group stopped producing it (apparently because it was too ugly!).
Re-watching this after a couple of years..! Such a good video. And as a few have commented, any half decent engineer can turn in something good at a high price, with high service liability and dubious reliability. Few can produce supreme functionality that does not entail excessive cost or maintenance. This is also why I greatly respect Seiko and Japanese engineering. But here, the Swiss did a great, Victorinox-like job! Richard Habring took it to the next level... huh, back when IWC made great watches!
I do love that wobble it produces
Excelllent video that gives credit where the credit is due !
Well done !
I do own and wear Omega Speedmaster Day Date with Omega Cal. 1151 (ETA 7751 based) on daily basis. I concur to its robustness, reliable and reasonable accuracy that satisfied me every occasions.
PS. Thank you Mr. Edmond Capt for creating this wonderful workhorse.
Thank you Armand for another superb video. As some who works in watch retail I really do find your work extremely enjoyable and informative.
I had my heart set on saving up and buying a F. Piguet 1185 flyback chrono, but there's an Omega Speedy with a modified split second Valjoux 7750 at a local jeweler that seems a lot more appealing after watching this passionate, tasteful and knowledgeable commentary. Really great stuff, I learned from Tim Mosso that unidirectional winding is more efficient but now I know the reason why!
Watching this wearing my IWC Portuguiser with the Valjoux 7750. Almost 20 years old now, unserviced but still functioning perfectly.
Had great happiness with a 7750 and a 2893 a2 over the years. Bulletproof movements. Thanks for the video.
The key issue is, that ETA7750 has been around for a while and most watch manufacturers used it in one form, or another. All independent watch repairers are familiar with the movement and parts are freely available.
Thank you Edmond Capt for making this movement possible
Great video which covered many, many bases. The little variations of the 7750 which are (ex. 7753) another grey zone which many of us are not familiar with. These are variations of the 7750 into other types: the 7753 is a very close looking Rolex display. The choice of cases are made by the movement: some cases will have a hidden pusher (left side) to change more easily certain info. A fine flexible base of a movement which has no equal 👌❤️👍.
Keep safe!
John
Subscribed! What an in depth, thoughtfully laid out presentation of the 7750. Well done.
Nice video. Well researched to actually change my mind about the 7750- seems like a movement worth a second look
Excellent Vid. I would like to see more vids on movements and which ones are more desirable .
Gerold At Large the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
@@YouGetBlocked What's wrong with you?
otobotrecords nothing! But this guy misinformed people. Don’t give al the information.
@@YouGetBlocked But one same comment is enough, don't you think?
i like that the 7750 is the only movement that tell me when the watch is fully wound. i really like that, and wish other movements (swiss or not) to have the same feature
My Omega moon watch lets me know when it fully wound as well.
@@hambone988ubet well, i don;t have an omega (yet) and never used one :)
How does it do that?
it makes a different noise when it's fully wound, and it feels different by disconnecting the winding part@@mtbbiker6401
IWC is a true pilot watches, and it became a favorite time piece for the motoring enthusiast group. 😀
Over priced, you can get the movement in much cheaper and better watches such as Laco and Davosa
I’ve worn a Favre-leuba since 1979 , serviced twice and still perfect. 15secs a day gain. Excellent movement.
Very Good Video, the 7750 is the working mans chronograph that you can buy on pieces under 800.00 dollars or on as all second Panerai that cost 10 times as much! I’ve got a couple Swiss brand chronograph pieces that run this wonderful movement and one of the Panerai Submersible pieces that use it not for the chronograph but for the fact it’s easy to work on or build onto its base. It’s just a wonderful movement that has been in so many cases in so many different price ranges at one time I had an Accutron VX-200 chronograph 43mm dive watch, 200 meter, day & date wheel with rotating bezel and a stunning 13 piece bracelet that used the 7750 that cost me new round 400 US Dollars 😉👍🌟🌟🌟 I really miss that watch‼️♥️🖤
Just got my first 7750 derived watch in the form of a Hamilton Aviation Auto Chrono Converter - the only fully mechanical navitimer-style watch from a reputable brand with a water resistance of 100m. Absolutely love it and the H-21-Si movement within. Only thing that surprised me is that the quickset danger hours are 7pm to 3am- two hours more than the 9pm to 3am danger hours on most other quickset dates.
Kasper K learned to cut and paste...😂
Haha, it's like I had thousands of dejavues scrolling through the comments.
Yeah i really have deep respect to that movement. Not long ago i finally found a example of Oris 7415 that suits my condition requirements. Im really happy with it and fascinated by advanced coupling of chronograph. When engaging it one needs to press and hold the activation pusher for smooth engagement. I learned that from Tim Mosso videos and it really works every time with out fault
Great video Armand, and thank you for all your amazing work! Please keep posting these insightful pieces. Happy holidays! Cheers
Very enlightening! Thanks for the in-depth history . I believe my BALL BMW Chrono Day/Date has it.
The 7750 automatic chrono with day and date movement is the best that I've owned. I particularly like the movement's accuracy and the minimal turns of the crown it needs for hand winding. The day and date are unusually easy to set as well.
Well done. I agree with you from my own research. Thanks!
7750…equivalent automatic K from 1947
28…rounds of rock and roll 🎸
My will for my great grand kids… 10m commercial / 2m residential and 5m s&p500.. MY MOST PRIZED ITEM!! 7750 from my cold dead hands… the movement I timed for every 30min open house and 8hour sleep every night😘
The 7750 is used by some really prestigious brands, but, I owned 3 watches with the movement, one of which was the 7751. I discovered that, if you start timing an event that requires you to stop and start the chrono multiple times without resetting it to zero, the hours hand of the chrono does not accurately keep track of total elapsed time. Upon discovering it I tested this on the remaining 2 watches and found that the "flaw" was present in all 3. These were a Longines and 2 Sinn chronos. I got rid of them because my first principle in buying a watch is the movement.
My favorite movement of all time. You just can't beat the wiggle.
Most excellent vid Armond! It (VJ 7750) is my favorite movement. I get all the information I need to fly light aircraft.
I have one in an Omega Seamaster Chronograph from 1996. Works like a charm:)
gogibo66 the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
@@YouGetBlocked That's some interesting horology history right there.
Thanks, an Excellent video. I too am speaking with my peers on the virtues of ETA and Valjoux. They seem to think that ETA is bad. That all brands simply "plonk" an ETA movement in the case. The also think that ETA has one movement ... the ETA.
Since 28 years I enjoy my Sinn 103 TiAr Chronometer with this movement.
You're back!
Have several of 7750 movements. This should be a good one. Btw First!!!
Armand the watch guy, welcome back!
Thanks, good video as always. I ordered a Habring² in late September, January it will be mine. I live about an hours drive from them so thats convenient and i got me a little special too. If you dont know them, talk to Maria, unbelievably nice persons. Have fun times.
+ Aslaid IhaveNoIdea: Congratulations! I wish you the best of health in wearing it! As you say, Maria has always been delightful whenever I have communicated with the brand.
@@ArmandTheWatchGuy I sat there with a friend for more than 90 min and i was never of the impression of being in a sales talk. And the fact that you are basically sitting in their living room... I love me a big factory tour, but there it is 6 peeps. Me likey.
Very very nice watches👍👍👍
WATCH CHRONICLER why didn’t you mention that this movement is based on an Invicta patent made by H Guyot?
Excellent video. A wonderful movement indeed. My omega 3511.50 thanks thee
I have this movement in my breitling superocean heritage II chrono. Love it.
Reliability and accuracy are very important. As a microbrand I hate to have service returns. Weird movements do lead to this I know now. Fancy but not nice. All 7750’s that have been on my timing machine were very accurate. In all 6 positions. Chronometer or not, all very accurate. It will be featured in my first chronograph watch for a reason!
Great video. I have the 7750 in an Omega Speedmaster triple date, IWC Pilot Chronograph, and as the 7751 in a new Longines Moonphase triple date chrono. I just bought a 2nd hand Fortis Fleiger chrono with the 7750 and it is more accurate than my new TAG Heuer 1887 chrono! Such a sturdy beast is the 7750.
A very insightful video. A lesson learned.
Many thanks Armand ✊
Does the 7750 need oiling every ten or so years? I'm hearing the mechanism and unsure if it needs replacing or just oiling. What's the cost on both. ty
I have a Bulova Valjoux 7750 chronograph and it was the watch that, as a collector, I found out that automatic chronographs 'only' evolved in the 60s into the 70s! I'd assumed that it was much earlier. BTW presumably they did wind their Omegas on the moon by hand?
You should a video on the 2824, and the 2892, and basically a series that covers the most used or interesting movements in the market today. I would love that (and so would everybody else I'm sure.)
Great Video. The longines column wheel variant is fantastic looking and to use
Very useful video, I have a question I'm looking forward to modified my Hamilton Jazzmaster hands, so are the Hamilton calibre H-21 movement have the same hands hole's size as the ETA valjoux 7750 ?
The 7750 is the Small Block Chevy V8 of the watch world. Simple, reliable and performs well even if it isn't necessarily an engineering marvel. I love them.
I have a chronograph Oris Carlos Coste with the 7750, it's terrific.
I have two Hamilton auto day-date chronos, and always wondered about the movement they use...
Now I know! Thank you.
Great review as always! Thank you for the information. I always learn a great deal from your videos!
I have an Omega Speedmaster Automatic with an Omega 3304 movement, based on the Valjoux 7750. After 7 years it still loses only 3 seconds a day
How much does this movement cost? Searching the web I’ve found £300-£500. If that’s right, I’m feeling sick because I bought an IWC for £5,500 with this movement.BTW, can you name the music you open each vid with pls? Thanks.
That's the opening few bars from L'amour est un oiseau rebelle, from Bizet's opera, Carmen. ua-cam.com/video/qU9G5ljbWYc/v-deo.html
Thanks for an excellent video on the classic and extremely, in history, important movement.
Do you know of this issue with the day disc jumping undesirably when pulling the crown in 2nd position with this movement? 🤔
This is normal. If you change the date first, then day, the pull the crown to time setting, the day will jump back a day. If you change the day first, then date, it won't happen. Alternatively, after setting the day, push the crown in, then pull it out again to date setting and change the day, then time.
Just a quirk with this movement, nothing to worry about
@@8AP1thanks for confirming this. Indeed a quirk of the movement.
It’s weird i only discovered this last month even though I’ve handled dozens of of 7750 base watches.
@@nathanwabre yes, I had a similar experience, despite having handled 5 7750's prior. My watch went back for warranty for a different issue (loose crown gasket), and I made a note of the day issue in warranty notes. The watchmaker inspected it and said its normal and reproduced on two other 7750s he had on his bench. I have never noticed it before, but maybe I have changed the day first previously
@@8AP1 very similar experience with other my IWC. Mine features the calibre 79320 which is a modified 7750 has “suffers” from the same quirk.
IWC confirmed to me that this is normal indeed
Thank you for your very informative video. I have been wondering why the 7750 with its 8Hz beat has the chronograph second geared to 1/5 second. Was this done because one can read 1/5 sec but 1/8 sec would be too hard to read?
I always get lemons. I just bought an expensive (for me) Tissot Heritage 1973 Chronograph (7753) and I'm returning it. The auto-winding rotor hardly moves it sticks or something. In 9 days it stopped on me three times including on my wrist and on a watch winder. I'm very disappointed because it's a beauty.
That's too bad. I was looking seriously at that watch, but decided against it because it would be too big on my wrist. Lovely looking design, though. Did you get a new one?
On my Hamilton X wind with the H21(Valjoux 7750), the day and date engage at around 11:40, don't fully flip over till 12:20 and 12:35 respectively. Is that normal ?
Absolutely
I don’t think the Longines movement uses a vertical clutch, can anyone clarify this please.
They do with their recent versions.
I have tag heuer 2000 exclusive with this movement. My only critism would be the pushers are a little heavy handed. But after 10years it still runs around 3 seconds every 2 days.. would love to get an exhibition back for it.
What is the model of Zinn featured?
Is this the same movement that’s in the Omega Seamaster Chronograph watches if the late 1990’s to mid 2000,s?
Mr Perpetual the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
i love that this opens with a sinn
Very informative it's a beautiful modern movement. But I still wonder how accurate they can be.
It´s also in the Maurice Lacroix Aikon Chronograph Automatic.
7750 great movement .. have it on my Sinn 358...
There seems to be a good deal of dispute on the forums as to whether or not the Longines L688 does in fact have a vertical clutch. There’s some seemingly very informed contributors (including a couple of watchmakers) who are adamant that the L688 and its heavily reworked relative, the Omega 3330, are in fact both horizontal clutch chronographs. You state it’s vertical: can you confirm?
Antony Mort My thoughts entirely. Thank you for your comment. It just goes to show how one has to take what’s heard on the forums and on UA-cam with a pinch of salt.
I have this movement in my breitling super avenger 2 … my god it’s an amazing watch
excellent video, very good.
I have one 7750 and one 4130 watch and both are close, but the column wheel and vertical clutch are just slightly better IMHO. The real issue is one can be used by multiple brands while the other just one.
Валжутата са прекрасни - точни, солидни, здрави, има и части за тях, че и престижни - последното донякъде зависи от гледната точка. Лично за мен - горната граница на разумното харчене за часовник. След като малко сте го носили, се убеждавате веднага, че не ви е необходим часовник с 3 стрелки, Горещо препоръчвам. Бог да дава живот и здраве на Едмонд Капт !
Hoping someone can answer this...Should I run the chronograph (on a V7750) every now and then so that parts don't get stuck inside, or not run it at all (unless I have to, which I never do) to avoid needless wear/tear? In other words, is there desired happy medium to running/not running it? My goal is to never need to service the watch more than 1x every 5 years (it's a Sinn chronograph, by the way).
Why was it designed with a 30 minute counter instead of 60 minute counter? Seems very odd since it counts up to 12 hours.
It is a very good mechanic automatic chronograph movement despite that doesn't have pillars wheel.
Josep Maria Aguasca Ribot the chrono function of this watch movement is based on an patent made by an Invicta engineer from the 40’s.
I have that movement in my Alpnach Victorinox
I have it in two Hamiltons!
I recently bought a used Tag Heuer Carrera. It keeps great time, losing less than a second a day, but I noticed today that the date changes over at around 9:00pm. Is this normal, or should I have it looked at, or maybe even serviced. I believe the watch is about 10 years old.
If it's just the date that changes over at 9pm, I'd suggest just having the hands put in so that the date changes at midnight.
@@DanishDimebag thanks. I got it serviced in the end and now it works fine.
I can buy this movement for 12 dollars on ebay or Amazon.
So Rolex Daytona price is only reflected in its artificial backlog.
Somewhat like diamonds.
While Rolex is Iconic. The biggest thing is the slow rollout of its products. This artificially creates high prices
it has no column wheel.... stop right there.
great stuff, Armand :)
Great episode. can you do an episode explaining why the Omega 321 is so highly revered engineering wise? Let's forget about the moon landing hype. Maybe compare it to the 3861 on a purely engineering basis. How does it stack up?
+ Timothy Ng: That's a very very good idea and it gives me an idea for a series...
@@ArmandTheWatchGuy Looking forward to it. love the in-depth engineering which isn't covered elsewhere. eg. discussion of bidirectional vs unidirectional efficiency etc.
Have a 7751 and 7753
Very cool. Thank you.
I should really appreciate it if you reviewed IWC Big Pilot. Cheers!
awesome video