Overview Of Third-Party Movements: ETA, Miyota, Seiko, & More (A Comprehensive Guide)
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Considering the fact that the majority of watches out there on the market are powered by third party movements, there is a surprising lack of insight about the brands who produce them and even the movements themselves. In this video, we’ll present the most important information to know and understand about the biggest third-party brands and movements to help you make more informed watch buying decisions in the future.
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0:00 - Ground Rules And Other Videos to Watch
3:15 - Miyota
6:54 - SII (Seiko)
9:52 - ETA
17:55 - Sellita
19:54 - Soprod
22:18 - STP
23:24 - Dubois Depraz Modules
25:54 - Kenissi - Навчання та стиль
It's astonishing to me that it took this long to actually have a watch channel that talks about watches knowledgeably. The vast proliferation of channels which prioritise "unboxing" (basically a kind of strip-show for the intellectually challenged) and various guys saying things like "this thing feels really solid" and "it looks really, really nice" and "you know, to me this looks like a much more expensive watch" is comic. It's like turning up for a meal and being served foam. The sheer educational and entertainment value TB offers is always fantastic. Thanks, Teddy - more power to you.
Brilliantly descriptive.
A bit harsh
Not harsh at all - professionals in the industry give regular market updates in which they say things like “everybody knows how much I like blue” and “always great to see one of these come across the desk”
@@christopherbroga4700 Why I sold my Explorer et al.
Hi Chris, there is our British expert Arnaud from his channel The Watch Chronicler. Highly informative , highly recommend and strangely Teddy has stepped up a long way to match Arnold's informative presentation nowadays. Plus Teddy says a few more words per minute than anyone else I've heard, quite amazing fluency!! Well done Teddy 🧸 👏
If I have a criticism it's his over pricing of the lower end of the watch market maybe he is protected his own shop pricing, good ol' price conditioning 🤔
I have a 39 year old Citizen with a Miyota 8200 movement that's never been serviced and it gets +/-3 seconds a day.
Same here with most of my watches, ain't broken don't fix it.
I have miyota super 2035 movement ,
Accuracy is 🤟🤟👍
@@johnmuthan286 I thought the same thing, didn’t want to service my grandfather‘s old watch for the longest time until it stopped working. Lack of oil made a divot in one of the jewels, now I’m on top of my services!
Wow!
Yeah, sure.. most Miyotas are garbage still.
I just returned to watch videos as a prime distraction, and I prefer my distractions to at least feel educational. I am _so_ glad I caught this video in particular, because it's not only actually educational, but it's a huge chunk of my DIY watch knowledge that was missing! Thank you for the work, Teddy. It is sincerely appreciated.
My daily wear watch is using a Miyota 9039. I regulated it myself over the course of about a week... carefully adjusting it back and forth until it consistently runs +1 second per day. This morning I woke up and it was 1/2 second fast from where I hacked it 24 hours before. It can go a few days without deviating by a second or two. It is a fantastic movement. There's nothing practically more that an in-house movement can give you.
There is objectively nothing a luxury watch gives you above a solid “regular” or mid tier watch. There are more beveled edges and movement decoration but I’m not convinced that makes for a _better_ watch. In a nuts-and-bolts way, no improvements for thousands of dollars more.
Your awesome bro.... Self regulating.... Rolex fanboyz are crying silently in the bathroom!!!
Honestly if I see that a watch has a Seiko Instruments or ETA movement, or even some of the Miyota ones, I know that it's going to run great and be easy to find someone who is willing to service it.
Exactly
Another thing I forgot to mention is that a few years back, Seiko released an OEM version of the 8R chronograph movement called the NE88 or NE86, and it is a much nicer movement than the valjoux 7750 that it competes with because it is a vertical clutch column wheel chronograph. I haven't seen it used in many watches though for whatever reason. My guess is that at the price point, people just want to see that "SWISS MADE" on the dial
New 8o hour eta are rubbish.
@@khalifa2080 How
@@oscarosullivan4513 no regulation and no supply for of parts to repairers, monopoly strategy.
Movements usually set the price of the watch. So it's good to know what movement is in the watch you are getting so you don't over pay. Some microbrands will sell a $1000 watch with a NH35 in it which is absurd.
A Sellita would be more fitting
A whatch with an NH35A can be had for $100
@@gapf2010channel exactly!
I disagree. Bought in bulk, before sorting and further regulation by watch manufacturers a Miyota 8215 or an NH 35 would be sold anywhere between $15 and $35. A 9000 Series or 4r+ between $18 and $42. Etc.etc...
As absurd as using a Sellita SW200 Standard in a 2500 EUR watch from a big brand, or is it?
In the beginning of my watch collecting journey i was all about in-house movements. While they are great and Rolex, Seiko, Tudor, Omega, Breitling, Zenith, JLC, Patek, VC, and so on make some reliable and proven movements. But they cost quite a bit to service. Now i honestly appreciate the utility, reliability, and serviceability of ETA and Miyota movements. It doesn't bother me if a watch has one. They are accurate and reliable. The service costs are half of what a in-house movement service is. While im totally fine with ETA, if i had the choice i almost prefer the Miyota. Its still quite accurate and reliable. I dont mind the rotor noise and usually the watch can be alot thinner than the ETA counterpart. If im spending 5 grand obviously i don't want a miyota movement but you get the point.
Thanks for this comment, Josh. I agree with you!
Miyota isn’t serviceable though, you simply swap i out for a new one. Also, it’s not thinner than an equivalent ETA
@@nintendokings 9015 is 1mm thinner than 2824. Sounds marginal but it makes a difference in case size
When I hear that a microbrand watch uses a Seiko movement I take that as a sign of quality. My first automatic was an SNK805, and while the 7S26 isn't the best in the world it has yet to let me down.
One of our best videos ever. In my humble opinion, this is one of the most educational watch videos I have ever seen. I actually made notes so I would remember what you were saying about each one. TY for putting in ALL the work. You make it easy for the rest of us!
ETA movements are EXTREMELY underrated. They are very reliable workhorses! I like 'em.
Agreed. ETA is piece of mind for a collector and makes more sense than in-house in many instances.
I don't think that ETA movements are underrated. In my experience, ETA is well respected as a quality dependable movement. ETA is pretty much just in watches made by the Swatch group nowadays. Any other manufacturers are left only with Sellita. Which is a great movement in its own right.
Exactly. ETA is a great designed base model for modular watches. You can do so many modifications with them and cut down the cost. They are power houses that makes a great steady power storage units for a watch.
I think I still prefer the NH35 / 36 for the $.
ETA movements are not underrated. ETA movements and their clones are standard equipment in lower end Swiss watches.
I frequently go back to this video to refresh and supplement my knowledge on this content---can't express in words how helpful this information has been on my watch-buying/collecting journey. Thank you for the work you do, Teddy!
You read my mind!! I was trying to work up the courage to reach out to you to request this EXACT CONTENT! Am happy to have a base level understanding of the movements and inner workings of the watches I study and covet. More information like this is appreciated!
Teddy rising to Mosso level uninterrupted expert delivery.
I am flattered as I respect Tim greatly.
Mosso finishing
No one is on mosso’s level. Dudes in another stratosphere.
Tim only stops momentarily to inhale
I listened to this at 1.5x and my brain almost exploded
Yes, Teddy B. This is the level of nerdiness I was looking for. Thanks.
I love the NH35 movement, out of the box in a cheap watch it can be a bit off than you prefer, but a tiny adjustment on the balance wheel adjuster can get it within a few seconds per day, even without a timegrapher. I have one in my first automatic, a Invicta Dive watch, that hasn't been serviced in over 10 years, and it's within a few seconds per day.
I have an invicta as well with the 24 jewel and its been very good
I need to find a video on how to do regulate NH 35.
@@timothyfoley3000 Just searched on UA-cam, plenty on of videos that show how to do it, very similar to other movements.
I just bought a steeldive of Alibaba with the NH35 and it hasn't lost or gained a second in 3 weeks
Spot on!... Not bad for a $180 watch!
THIS was one in depth video. Too much content on YT is superficial barely disguised clickbait with definite ROI constraints. Thank you for making something real.
With Swatch turning off the supply to non Swatch watch makers, and them being basically an in house movement supplier to Swatch brands shouldn't we begin to stop calling ETA movements third party - and begin calling them in-house movements for many Swatch brands. Just like Swatch has some 18 watch brands they also have some 17 manufacturers in house of which ETA is one. Swatch seems to be a classic vertically integrated company and I'm sure as a movement specialist they are involved with making Omega movements which for some reason are considered in-house for Omega. I think a more accurate story for ETA would be how they are sharing their in-house technology improvements such as SI hairsprings, to many of the Swatches brands. This story may be a bit more complex to tell, but it may better reflect reality, rather than the old third party movement story.
So that would mean any off brand watches equipped with ETAs would be collectible? 🤔
What most brands are calling in-house movement I strongly believe its rather a reference to in-house movement design and not the manufacturing the movement per se, which makes sense to me.
@@victorbgdream8328 i don’t think that’s a consistent explanation or definition of an in house movement though
Teddy, this was a phenomenal video. I have a number of Breitlings that use these different movements and it was amazing to better understand the background and history. Thank you so much! Also, bought a couple leather bands from your site and they are amazing. Thanks so much for the excellent content.
Teddy, I've watched watch vids - at least in the hundreds by now - and this is the single best video on watch movements I've seen. You're a gifted teacher.
Your video was so helpful!!! I just started collecting watches for a bit. I felt I didn’t really know enough about the different Watch movements such as NH-35 and ETA 28-24. Your video provided so much great information and presented in a very well made video! Thank you so much!!!
Balanced and thorough overview with amazing photography as always. I'll probably watch this video multiple times.
Huge pill of knowledge, huge amount of research. I love videos like that and this is what separates you from another watch youtubers that I know. We beg for more!
Amazing video! Thank you, Teddy, for all your effort to make everythign clear and comprehensive. I took notes about everything you said and now I'm on my way to build my own watch, as a diy hobby, thanks to you!
Again...you have made yet another video that I have watched multiple times, and used a reference....thanks Teddy! Love the channel...I am 20 years your senior, yet you have taught me a lot!
Very interesting video, Teddy. Appreciate the work that must have gone into researching all of those movements. I’ve always thought 3rd party movements make a lot of sense, especially from a price and servicing standpoint. Great work 👏🏻
Having a background in clock repair, movements are always high on my list when choosing a watch. A watch is only as good as it’s movement. Thanks for sharing this important info to your viewers.
This video is exactly what I was looking for to fill in the missing pieces of my watch knowledge, and the quality of the video is excellent….Much appreciated my good man. Cheers!
Great video and excellently timed as I'm just getting into building my own watches. I have so many questions about what movements to use and this was very helpful. Thank you and keep 'em coming!
Thankyou for coving this overlooked part of watches. I've had a hard time comparing movements in microbrands and affordable watches, and thus cleared a lot of it up for me.
Your wealth of knowledge is impressive Teddy.
You bet there’s a ton of work that supports this video. There’s tons of content and I love it and I presume we all love it. Many, many thanks! Merry Christmas to you and people close to you!
This is one of the best watch videos on UA-cam. Thanks. I’ll be coming back to this video time and time again.
Having serviced hundreds of watch movements I learned a lot from this very valuable assay of the very movements I come across regularly although I have to admit some I have never seen or worked on. Just too many beautiful movements out there. I'm currently restoring several Felsa 692's which are a favorite oldie of mine.
I’m not saying Seiko is the best but their movements have always worked well and been reliable for me plus I think their movements are reasonably priced. Great video. Thank you
Movements are great but the only thing keeping me away from them is their hardlex crystals, it's just unacceptable when watches in the same price range offer sapphire.
@@user-hs2hd7wp9g totally understand this comment but hardlex is a lot different from say a timex mineral crystal. Haven’t been able to scratch my 5 year old mini turtle despite having banged it off of every door jam in the world at least twice. I gotta get my depth perception checked….
@@user-hs2hd7wp9ggo with Chinese models, they have full sapphire
Fantastic explanation about a bunch of different types of movements inside our beloved watches! Thank you soo much for your patience for us customers that sometimes we never think what is under the “back case of our beloved “ pieces of art !
All the best for your channel Teddy Baldassare 👍
What a massive amount of great info! And you spoke with such conversational fluency that I was left with no choice. Subscribed.
LOVE this content. I’m analytical by nature, skeptical in practice, and a DIY type person. This helped me start researching the cost associated with each of the main components of a watch. Hopefully I can get to the point where I can make truly custom pieces for myself in the near future. Understanding just how far that ETA 2824 family tree reaches has me intrigued on some potential builds.
Wow Teddy. That was an education! Thank you.
Thank you Teddy, this is very informative to those who may dismiss 3rd party movements. At last an impartial review. I have experience with some of these brands. I've had a Sellita SW200 watch that has until recently been my most accurate watch within a second or two accuracy for some years, it probably needs a service now as the auto rotor is not as free as it used to be. I love the Valjoux as a super reliable work horse chronograph, OK it's on the thicker side but what a super movement. I also have an old TAG Monaco with a caliber 12 modular that has the Sellita SW300 mated with the Dubois Depraz chronograph module, keep em running and they will do you proud service. I'll not even attempt to list the ETA 2824 movement watches that I've had over the years but to date I do not recall a single issue with that movement for me anyway. I think a lot of a movements reputation as you mention is related to the company who cases the watch regulates the movement (and lubricates it of course to a good standard. The very best engineered movement will be perceived as sub standard if it is not regulated after all.
Great job Teddy. You answered several questions that I have had. Its frustrating to ask an AD about a watch and they can't give you the maker of the movement. Thanks keep up the good work.
Having owned watches with both in-house and 3rd party movements I can safely say the quality and reliability doesn't change one bit between them and as Teddy pointed out, totally comes down to how each watch brand regulates the movement when it's going into the case.
Currently I have the following app-tracked accuracies from my current collection:
Baltic Aquascaphe SB01 (Miyota 9039): +0.93s/day
Baltic Aquascaphe Bronze (Miyota 9039): +4.9s/day
Laco Aachen 39mm (Miyota 8315) +7.08s/day
Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer Mechanical (H-50, ETA 2801 base) +0.54s/day
And in recent years sold but really enjoyed:
Marloe Morar Black Edition (Miyota 9039) +2s/day
NOMOS Ahoi Atlantic (NOMOS Epsilon) +3s/day
Tudor Pelagos (ETA 2824-2) +1s/day
Marloe Coniston Speed Edition (Miyota 8N33) +4s/day
These are incredible accuracy figures really for non COSC movements and a testament to the brands regulating their watches properly. The 8315 is the only exception but 7s a day is still nothing to sniff at for a mid-band automatic movement with 60hrs power reserve. I can happily wait until service time and get my watchmaker to regulate it to more positions in that time.
An interesting thing to mention is that Sinn Spezialuhren from Germany uses 7 different manufacturers for their movements. First is of course ETA, but mostly the quartz watches like the dive watch line UX, then of course Sellita in most of the normal 3-hand-watches like the 104, then Valjoux for the 7750 like in the 910, then a clone of the 7750, the Concepto C99001 in the 103, then comes the La Joux-Perret 8000 in the 903, then the In-House-Stuff they have come up in the EZM10 and others, but as it's a ground-up-modification of 7750-like movements, it's shady. At last we have the UWD 33.1 in the 6200 WG MEISTERBUND 1, which rivals A. Lange & Söhne in beauty and finishing. 7 manufacturers is just insane for one watch company.
Amazing overview! Never saw all of them compared directly! Nicely done & super helpful
The best channel to get proper and detailed information on the world of watches. Knowledge rules always. Thanks!
Never clicked faster than this! Great content Teddy!
Great video Ted! The miyota movements always blow me away. They're so so so good. My NY0040 has been outstanding in the accuracy department. Around +3-4 a day!
The miyoka has been used for India seller (citizen prefered movement) but if you got a Tissot watch with miyoka movement you will not be happy with a frankenwatch
nothing spectacular for a miyota (citizen)...🇯🇵♥️
@@kananpaket9301 well no shit, that has nothing to do with the movement, just the fact that it’s a frankenwatch LMAO
Great video Teddy !!! I've been waiting for someone to actually do a video on the different movements out there for some of the people just getting into the watch world . Next , a video about the parts and how they go together, from mainspring to rotor wiuld also be informative for the same group , as well as everyone else. Thanx
I really could use someone like you for taking care of the watch FAQs. Great job as always Teddy!
Thanks. One of your best videos along with the one on Springdrive
Great review of the various third-party movement available on the market. One thing about the Miyota movements that I have noticed is the very loud rotors when compared with Seiko, ETA, and STP movements (I only have experience with these movements). This is certainly true of the 8000 series, and is true even for the 9000 series. It brings to mind the notoriety of the noise level of Timex quartz movements. 😄
I am looking at adding a Squale Montauk to my collection soon, which would add a Sellita SW200 into it. I have also not had a great experience with the only STP movement in my collection and am not sure I would purchase another one.
I am excited to see FTC's automatic movement when it gets released, and to purchase an automatic watch made in the USA and not just assembled in the USA.
This is a great video, thanks Teddy. These terms are thrown around so frequently in this field, it’s great to have some context.
I found this highly useful and informative. A comprehensive but simple overview not one word that did not add to the narrative.
Well done Teddy!
My favourite is the myota 9015. Got 2 of these and both run around 0 to 1 second a day accuracy. One is 6-7 years old never been serviced. Got more expensive movements that do not keep this accuracy. Heard from others these are great movements.
Teddy dropping knowledge and lookin’ sharp. Man’s dangerous!
Really great video. Learned a ton. Thank you!
Oh, and I'm really glad to see the SW200 gets the stamp of approval. Just ordered a watch with it without knowing much about that movement.
Teddy...I've been looking for info on all these movements and no one has covered them. I really appreciate this detailed info. Really good stuff. 👍
I have an Invicta Pro Diver with an SII NH35A movement. This watch over time had gotten me into the realm of watches and after roughly 7 years of absolutely beating it up (I got it when I was younger). This watch after recently adjusting its speed and tightening the rotor (came loose from having beaten it up), this thing is still going strong within chronometer specs. I’ve since bought a new pro diver with the same movement and it still keeps going at chronometer time (after adjustment). I hope to get an omega in the future 😁
Hope you get your Omega, my best wishes man! Just a quick question, is the Invicta logo on the side of the Pro Diver often visible under normal use with a short sleeved shirt?
Great video Teddy. This was extremely educational and must have taken a lot of research.
Thank you, my friend! You know how this video thing can get time consuming...
@@TeddyBaldassarre Oh absolutely I do. Appreciate the time you put in to compile this info and keep up the great work.
Agreed. I will likely reference this video again.
yes, educational for me as well.
@@TeddyBaldassarre you the man Teddy. Great video. Your research and knowledge on this was impeccable. You kept the flow from start to finish. Maybe highlight the ETA sales practices forcing naming of these brands stepping to the plate. It sure was messy. Once again Teddy, A brilliant look at a long and most times yo yum industry of watch movements. Those in the know will appreciate all your hard work. Thank again Lord Baldassarre. 🤙🏻
Fantastic video Teddy. Great to get an overview of the most commonly used off the shelf movements. Thank you 👏👏👏👏
Chapeau Teddy Baldassarre! Its a concise, lucide, precise review of the state of watch motors. Thank you. Stay healthy everybody. Greetings from Germany
Dear Ted,
I know you said this one was hard to put together, but I think many of us think very highly of all the work you have done here to synthesize a very complex, obscure body of information into a coheret, concise, authoritative package. Thank you for demystifying this topic for the general public. I think you have just about done the equivalent of a Masters Thesis in watch calibers here. Much respect.
- LL
Thank you was enough....
Teddy you should be proud that this video, as well as many others that you create adds greatly to the equation for watch knowledge in the world. Most watch commentators out there would be unwilling or unable to do something of this quality. We all know that you have a large watch sales enterprise in your stable. But it is so refreshing that you don’t ever try to cram sales down our throats like so many of your colleagues. Congratulations! I close by mentioning that a few months ago I bought a limited edition ceramic dial watch from a small Swiss watchmaker, Lundis Bleus. The watch has a Sellita 300 movement that I feel compares favorably with those of my Rolex and Grand Seiko models.
Thank you, Lee! I appreciate comments like this!
Great design but shame about the size
@@oscarosullivan4513 my Lundis Bleus is 40mm wide and has a thickness of 11mm, so it is very much a dress watch. They make quality and beautiful minimalist watches! Check them out😊.
@@leewimberly6114 40mm seems to be a bit big for a dress watch
Thank you Teddy! Awesome video! I know there have been many suggestions for this type of a video and im glad you delivered big time.
Thanks Teddy. This answered a lot of questions for me. I’m always impressed with your breadth of knowledge and research. Keep showing watches you sell. We’re rooting for your store!
In the next three years their will be Chinese competitors, that will get movements that competes with Grand Seiko and Rolex for a more affordable price range.
They are going to be as accurate to a quartz watch mechanical movement, made by Seagull and yet this is to aim on MIC 2025 vision of getting out mechanical movements from China that works with the accuracy of a quartz movement.
I have 2 watches with the movement Miyots 9015 inside and both of them are great! The movement is rather slim making the cases of the watches also very slim. Accuracy wise, both of them are the same at + 3-5 seconds a day. They are so good that I don't want to buy a microbrand watch if it does not have a movement from the Miyota 9000 series.
agreed, Miyota 9000 series and ETA 2824-2 elaborate version are my go-to option now, they run far more accurate than 6R15 in my other watches
I love the Miyota 9 series too. I like that I hear and feel the rotor. I like spinning it. I don’t mind what people say. I like the fact that I know it’s there
Just got a Smiths Everest Gilt dial with 9000 series...keeping excellent time.
Which brands do you have?... it's not so easy to find out in the market brands which fit 9 series... so, if you can tell me a few brands, then it'll be very much appreciated. Thanks
@@robertobaccala4752 Phoibos used the Miyota 9000 series but as of late, they only use Seiko NH35A. :/
Was hoping you'd mentioned Tianjin Seagull, probably the largest manufacturer of mechanical watch movements.
Chinese junk. Nobody cares.
@@donquique1 Elitist much? Like Miyota, they make anything from low-cost $50 stuff to really high end thousand dollar stuff like tourbillons. If anything be glad that beginning enthusiasts can afford a mechanical watch, instead of spending hundreds on a Swiss movement right off the bat. Just like Japan (who used to make "junk" before the 80s), as well as Korea (no one in America had even heard of any Korean companies like Hyundai or Samsung before the late 90s), China has industrialized extremely fast in the past half century.
This was a super-informative video Teddy. One of your best! Thank you for putting it together.
Why would anyone give this effort a thumbs down? Awesome video Teddy. Thank you for making it.
They dont like his glasses
Hi Teddy. Very interesting watch. Could you expand on this video to discuss the typical costs of servicing of in-house vs. third party movements, along with recommended service intervals? I’ve often wondered what the cost of a service would be for a chronometer-certified third party movement vs a chronometer movement from Rolex/Omega for example.this would definitely impact my next purchase.
Really a very good video. I've been dealing with watches for some time and I'm increasingly fascinated. Of course, I came across terms like Miyota or ETA. Now I know the background of the calibers much better. Thanks a lot for this. liked and subscribed. Many greetings from germany.
Love the video - my first watch has an ETA 2824 in it, and it's my most accurate mechanical by far.
I was glad to hear you take pause with the Seiko 6R35 movements being put into watches priced over $1k. Here's to hoping for better regulation in the future.
Damn, this dude has vast knowledge of everything watch. Thanks for the education Teddy.
Youre killing it!
You knocked it out of the park with this video Teddy, keep up the excellent work.
One of the most informative and interesting videos around, thanks, Teddy!
Love the miyota 9s series. Have a couple of thin watches and works great for the money. It’s hi-beat and usually cheaper than it’s Swiss counter part.
I own seven watches that use the ETA 2824-2 movement. It’s a true workhorse.
Some of my pieces include the
Tudor BlackBay 79220b
Breitling Superocean 42
Tissot PR100 COSC Powermatic 80
Tag Heuer Aquaracer with the Calibre 5
I several ETA based watches and have never been let down. Great movements.
Very nice Teddy ! Very informative, technical and one of your best videos so far.
I really like these kind of videos. You learn something new about different movements. Thank you Teddy 😊👍👍
Awesome overview of the industry, it will definitely help out those of us who are new to the world of horology!
Right?! Needed this video in the world!
Agreed
Thanks Teddy. I think that Sea-Gull movements (clones of Unitas/Eta and so on) are really worth a mention here. Their movements (if real SeaGull) are, in my view, on pair with standard ETA ones.
Agree, the ST movements are very good, certainly if you count the Sea-gull does insane quantities (the largest manufacturor of watch movements in the world)
Thank you so much for the information that was provided. As an entry level watch enthusiast, my fascination has now turned to almost an obsession with a healthy focus minus the presumption. I do believe that the world of watchmaking has opened my eyes to a world unto its own. Thank you again
Absolutely fantastic video Teddy. Thanks for the amazing work that you put into this video.
I seem to recall that, in my youth, a watch company (Benrus?) made a watch that was "self-regulating". If you correctly reset the watch by advancing the minute hand, the watch would also speed up very slightly. The reverse was also true. I wonder if such movements are still made.
The miyota 9015 it's so underrated, I hope someday it will reach the level of modding support for the community that the nh35/36 has
It’s got to find its way into some slimline dive watches for a reasonable price. RLG do one, but not many others.
This video was top-notch, Teddy. Lots of good information! I have a few watches with third party movements and I've never had an issue with any of them.
Great content Teddy! Very neutral, well informed and even including some smaller manufacturers! Keep it up!
Great vid, a lot of work went into providing such a comprehensive list of movements, what they offer and how they differ. However some microbrands have started to utilize Chinese movements as well, especially the PT5000, which, as an ETA 2824 clone, should be on this list, IMHO :)
He mentioned at the beginning he would not be able to get into every manufacturer due to the sheer numbers. There have to be dozens of clone movement makers in China, let alone in the rest of the world.
Am I the only one that noticed the pun "in the vast majority of cases", or was that intended?
Unintentional 😂
Haha you and I both!
Super informative - learned something new today!
Incredibly educational, keep this amazing and professional job!
Hi Teddy! Since I got the impression that you like the german brands as much as we do here in Austria, I have a fun fact for you. Here in Austria (south of Germany) it is tradition to gift a Junghans to your son or daughter at "the first holy communion" or after you finished the "Matura" ( google: higher school certification?). It has to be worn by the father and represents the continous lifeline beyond generational borders. The luck of the father goes down to his children and shall grant them their own luck in life under the protecting eyes of the father. Kids are around 14 at communion and 18 at the "Matura" so, they are just starting out getting some experience. It has to be a Junghans, because the brand was regarded as a "proper watch, that doesn`t fail" but left space on top to be more successful to buy a more luxurious watch. (The next step yould be a Rolex for medical doctors or atorneys) I just wanted to let you know, that there are cultures in the world, that share your appreciation for the german watch brands.
3rd part movements doesn’t always mean it’s a bad watch. A great example is Kurono a watch by Hajime Asaoka that uses a Miyota movement. Phenomenal piece!
That is a very obscure reference.
The regulated Miyota movements in my Traska, Summiteer and Freediver are incredibly accurate.
My Freediver and Commuter too.
Traska Commuter rules
easly cosc standards without pumping up the price
@@thisispw I love the Commuter... it reminds me of the Rolex, Date Just I used to own!
@@Phafanapolis Agreed!
I have been looking everywhere for a video explaining this. Thank you!!! Subscribed!
Thanks Teddy keep up the great work! Approach appreciate the hard work that has gone into this video. This topic is great for to "educated" the many watch snobs and their "in-house movement" is the "only way to go for a good watches".
Wow this is way beyond UA-cam standards. Really high quality info. Thanks man for sharing this.
A table would summarize the whole presentation in a much clearer and concise manner.
That goes against the salesperson code! Lmao
Really great video! I've been looking for something like this for a while now. It must have taken a lot of work, but was brilliantly informative. Thanks!
Great video. Having taken a curious interest in watches etc quite recently. I really needed a video like this as I often hear the different movements mentioned without explanation. Thanks for the info!
Surprised to find that most movements are very slim.
But why are the watches so thick, like over 10mm :(