M1 Mac Mini Plug-in Tests - Sonic LAB
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- It's not often we get asked if we want to take a look at new Apple hardware, but with the new M1 silicon featuring the SoC (System on a Chip) and from what we’ve been hearing and what’s been claimed, we figured we would.
We were sent the base model Mac Mini with the 8-core CPU, 8GB of RAM and 256GB hard drive. Also supplied were the wireless keyboard, mouse and track pad.
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00:00 Intro and overview
04:18 U-He Diva test
10:15 All native test
16:29 Latency
17:24 Storage
19:03 Bootcamp
19:39 iOS Apps
20:15 Wrap
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The Mac mini is cool, but I want to see Nick play the red tambourine on the shelf.
...and he must use his booty
😂🤣
i know im randomly asking but does someone know a trick to log back into an instagram account..?
I somehow forgot my account password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Kyler Kieran Instablaster :)
Awesome! I am so pleased Apple reached out to you guys! You deserve it!
Great channel. You don't need to apologise for your production style. I love it. The first 4 bars are actually gold to my ears.
Nice work Nick!! Was excited to see this, really cool to see this mad generational leap in processing. PS. Cheesy?!! Tune is a banger.
Cheers mate, not all that scientific, but I wanted to try a more real-world from scratch thing too.
I've been able to run an Ableton 11 session (Live 11 isn't M1 native yet), with 153 tracks of Spitfire's BBC:SO, and 4 tracks of Pianoteq (48k, 512) and play / record without any hitches. Consumes about 9 GB of memory, but everything works. Also tested SampleTank 4, all AIR synth plugins and some Waves stuff (C6, WNS etc). All works flawlessly. MIDI over IP, Ableton sync and all the other fringe stuff also working great. My big session doesn't even get the fan spinning (my 2018 MacBook Pro would melt with this session open) - and I still get more than 8 hours of battery life (30% minimum constant CPU usage, full brightness etc). It's honestly fucking unbelievable.
Will this Mac mini run logic, komplete, soundscapes, smoothly can somebody answer. Ty
8gb ram?
You didn’t tell us which Mac or the specs!
great review, and I actually like the nifty little number , the demo track
Thanks Nick for an interesting review. I’m thinking of change my computer and this is very helpful.
excellent overview - happy mac user here reluctant to change from a working setup but that seems too tempting to resist over time. fun fact, nlog is made by Rolf Wöhrmann, who developed the waldorf quantum/iridium sound engines + nave.
But can it self oscillate?
Does it have pulse width modulation? The people need to know
Thanks Nick great real, common sense, straight to the point review 👍🖥
I was so impressed with these mini’s that I bought one purely to run Logic Pro
I for one love your synth funk Nick! Include a bit more in your reviews 😁
Great review
Really helpful assessment
My favorite part of this review was the performance with the desk drawer. MORE DRAWER!
That track was actually really nice. Stick that on your Bandcamp.
Best explanation of SOC. Well done.
Great production
Wow that’s the base model! I’m sold
Apple storage pricing is a complete joke across all Apple products
Appreciate the honest review. I'd read about the the inclusion of M1 chips in their new line, but didn't know it was going to be this soon. My "new" computer is going to be outdated before I have a chance to use it. Wonderfull.
There's a reason they introduced it on the laptops first, they're going to need to improve the speed and add more RAM for the higher end models. Doing 32-GB on a SOC (system on a chip) is a lot more tricky. The yield goes down the more RAM you put on a SOC.
@@6581punk They will drop embedded DRAM. They will move to another solution, either more cores (likely) or higher clockspeed and probably both. You can see that as a Pro line of computers the Mac's days are limited unless they do a complete redesign and change everything.
Just replaced my mac mini with a new mac book pro- intel (maxed out) not m1. This company does some shit. So our new computers will become obsolete in a few months.
I want to see native instruments in these tests
awesome work!
That incredible, I’ve a 10core 2020 iMac with 128gb of memory and only managed another 25 tracks before it fell over running the same test
That's because Intel processors are only good for games. AMD dominate for productivity due to their higher core counts. Apple should have moved over to AMD a few years back when Intel started to lag.
@@6581punk Intel's problem is thermal limits resulting mostly from their inability to perfect sub 14nm die fabrication. Also Apple has been unable to design platform that supports thermal dissipation on level required by Intel processors they chose to use. Change from x86 to ARM seems to be the future based on M1:s performance, at least on mobile platforms and low thermal limit applications that is. Intel indeed is now starting to lag behind in every major arena: mobile, workstations and servers, though Xeon's are still competitive, but not dominant as it used to be. I'm hoping for market where ARM-implementations compete against traditional x86, while RISC-V challenges both with pricing and open source community. Microsoft has already done some of the legwork needed to make large scale transition from x86 to ARM possible, but Apple still has some problems to sort out.
Nlog is a cool synth! What fun! So I look forward to seeing the results of those test sessions’ performance on the current high-end Intel Mac laptop. I think some are asking themselves “do I wait and get the new Mac or get a deal on last years’s model”? Thanks again for another great video!
The Neural engine works the same as on iPad if you get an overload Logic will automatically render a track to audio in the background if the neural engine can not repeat the sequence properly. So if you hit a brick wall stop and wait for a minute with zero play or messing with Logic then play again. In the core midi API it’s called invisible rendering. Similar to the way video editors do background rendering.
I have basic mbp model , running cubase with many plugins vst’s etc and this is rosseta , great machine 😎
The M1 has a lot of potential. One thing that has to be noted though, is that many hardware outboard gear is not (yet) compatible with the M1 processor and/or the Big Sur OS. So if you need something working right away, this should be something to look into.
sounds like a track for a saga gen game. i love it lol
I have a mac mini late 2012, i7, fusion drive, and it still runs Cubase and most apps well. Its a nice little computer, one of the best Ive ever had, totally reliable, I use timemachine backup to external 2 terabyte lacie drive. Considering its age its amazing. Ill be getting a mac mini M1 soon, just waiting for some music software to catch up to it. I have faith in it. - Mind you I'm running slightly older versions of everything but everything works fine so I never bothered upgrading the Mac, however now its starting to show its age and hence perfect time for the M1 to arrive for me :)
The track is banging! ❤
Oooh I am glad you have reviewed this. My new Mac Mini with 16gb and a 1TB SSD. I use it with Logic and Davinci Resolve, so this is positive. (Hopefully)
Yep, Resolve rocks from what we can see
thanks for the vid 👍 testing AbletonLive would be very interesting, too. ...you actually showed a MacMini issue: external SSDs seem not to run at their full potential - a Samsung T7 SSD should be able to read/write at around 800-900MB/s, but they only run with around 400-500MB/s. It's an issue many MacMinis (if not all) seem to have. Hope Apple can fix tis, since fast external SSDs are super important ...once Kontakt will be running on M1, hehe. ...can't wait to see Live11 in native M1 mode.
I've decided to get the 16Gb Mini within the next year, seems to be the best bang for the buck music computer ever! :)
Yes and no. Plenty of benchmarks showing a fairly mid-range Ryzen 5 processor keeping up and exceeding the M1 on many tasks. If you're already invested in the Apple an Logic platform then personally I'd skip the M1 and see what the next processor is like, by which time the quirks will have been sorted.
m1 Mac mini arrived today. Never used a Mac before. It took less than 5secs to render over 40 tracks (3mins song) to highQ mp3, running glitch free. I like!
That’s insane. Is that the base model?
@@geephlips base model using no plug-ins. I§m coming from being a Reaper/Cakewalk Dell 755 desktop user so Garageband is all new as well.
@@sodiumlights I saw that reaper is the only other daw updated to work with the M1 chip.
@@geephlips I didn't§t know Reaper was also for Macs!
Very interesting review, and useful commentary on RAM and storage options (especially given your disclaimer that you weren't attempting a general computing review).
I strongly agree that careful selection of external storage is a viable and much more economical option than buying large SSD Apple models. For those fortunate enough that money is no object, paying for a big factory SSD is fine, but for the rest of us, smart use of, say, 256GB of internal storage with cheaper external drives can be managed such that the practical performance difference won't be material (just involves developing good working practices that always put the right files in the right place at the right times).
I think you are also right to flag the potential limitations of the base 8GB memory model. For many people 8GB will be adequate, but the shared use of RAM for video and OS/program use means you could hit the buffers sooner than you expect if you want to do any semi-serious video work (for which the M1 is ideally suited). Most of the Apple models that are designed with video processing in mind have 4GB of dedicated video memory separate from system memory. If you use your new Mac Mini is such a way that you need similar amounts of working space for video, that only leaves you with 4GB for everything else on the base 8GB model. Choosing the 16GB RAM upgrade in that context represents a tripling, rather than a doubling of available memory (i.e. 12GB, rather than 4GB, of application memory). That might be something to think about, especially given the longevity of Apple machines (i.e. if you're smart in selecting the model, there is no reason why you shouldn't still be using it five years from now).
As with SSD's, Apple RAM is expensive, but unlike SSD's there is no practical workaround for expansion. Unless you are pretty confident you are never going to need more than 8GB, I'd advise people to grin and bear the £200 premium for 16GB because of the safety margin it will give you. One consolation is there is a good private market in used Apple machines, so if you look after yours you'll get a reasonable proportion of what you paid for it back when you sell it to upgrade to something else. i.e. You can expect to get at least some of that £200 back.
re storage: there's actually a Mac Mini dock that has not only more ports but also a slot at the bottom for an SSD. So you can have the storage in a super clean form factor for cheap.
If the dock has the bandwidth for read write speed, that could work. Would need to be tb2 or tb3
@@sonicstate it's this: www.ebay.com/itm/SATA-Hard-Drive-Enclosure-USB-3-0-Hub-Mac-Mini-MacBook-Pro-Type-C-SSD-HDD-Case-/184408227049?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
@@futureshocked Looks great, no thunderbolt though. Would love to see something similar for the Air.
I wonder how many long-term PC users like myself are starting to entertain getting their first Mac?
No way. What's the point of a superfast computer if hardly anything runs on it?. Apple say they are only supporting this for 2 years, software and plugin developers ain't gonna bother.
@@antonystannard3333 I'm with you, 2 years if lucky. Decreasing market share. Going ARM as a way to lock people in and also cheaper to make yet the prices have risen...
Hi Nick, what kind of metal stand/shelf is that on your side? Wow, love the tune in the end!
amazing I just upgraded to M1 finally from my late 2012 imac for this reason sick of running 3 x diva's and having to bounce on the 4th
You answered my buffer questions
Try running Logic itself under Rosetta 2 and try those virtual instruments I saw this on another video..
yes jon sine showed that it works well. he's selling his top of the line 16 inch macbook pro and using m1 macbook air now
@@mrbreaker101 you get better performance from plugins that are not yet M1 compatible and needs to run though rosetta 2. Watch the Jon Sine demo of how it works
This track is divine !
Do you know if it can run iOS apps such as nLog within the Logic environment? Thanks much Nick! That was a great introduction into this new world.
Hi, there is a rumor that suggest that when using natively unsupported plugins - such as Diva - in Rosetta mode , actually opening logic itself il under the Rosetta emulation mode as well will enable the plugin to perform even better . Worth a try perhaps..( Jon sine features it in one of his M1 videos and it seemed to be verified ) all the best . M
Come on Apple. Show Nick some love for this great FREE review.
I have an indie label on iTunes, they used to give us a discount on hardware - no more!
Two things.
One, if you run Logic in Rosetta instead of natively, you can get better performance and compatibility with third party plugins. In the "get info" section, I think you can click the open in Rosetta check box and then it'll one in Rosetta and that should solvate issues with a lot of third party plugins.
Two, Memory. It seems like a lot of people here are making the mistake of relating the memory in these computers with more traditional models. Other computers need a lot of ram due to how everything was laid out separately on the motherboard. It was very inefficient. With the system on a chip, everything is in one place so things get moved around much faster. iPad and iPhones don't have a great deal of memory, but because they are so well optimized with the OS and the SOC (System on a Chip), they run rings around every other smart phone and tablet with lots more memory. The M1(SOC) in combination with the OS is much better at RAM management due to a completely different architecture and we'll just have to forget the old ways of thinking about computers because with these new Macs, the old ways don't apply anymore.
Performance is simply outstanding. I was wondering if you have faced any bluetooth lag/stutter issues with Magic keys & mouse? Seems like you used ethernet port for internet connection so no issues i believe?
I've set up Logic to open in Rosetta (cmd-i on Logic.app and click the Rosetta checkbox). My whole library of plugins runs without any issues, no crashes so far; basically the whole iZotope catalog, UVI Falcon and Shade, Equator 1+2, Chromaphone, Goodhertz and a lot more. Only issues so far: iZotope Product Portal doesn't really work and Iris' UI is very slow. Also I hear that Native Instruments stuff doesn't work at all but I don't own any so I can't test.
Having Iris UI open always kills my CPU on a normal system
I have NI. Their portal is not compatible either
i don't know but i have a hunch that your benchmark isn't working. I wonder what happens if you try adding these diva synths again but with a couple of notes and parameters offset by some.
Great review. You missed one point. You can run on M1 also AUv3 plugins from iOS. There are currently not many available (Virsyn AddStation additive Synth...). So you can open them in Logic Pro X as an AUv3 plugin which is a big thing in my opinion. Imagine if you can open the Moog Minimoog AUv3 version from iOS right in your Logic Pro X. :D The critical points are: the developers need to activate this option and need to update them for M1.
Cheers Tom I will try that
I was wondering about this, I haven’t seen anyone talk about it.
I’m not sure I expect anything because many iPad synths are sold as au or vst for a lot more than the app price.
Is u-he diva already ported to M1 , or doesn't that matter when it runs in the reaper M1 version ??
Great work Nick. Do you know how it runs with the EXS24 sampler running native with sampes?
So wait, will it just not run 3rd party stuff or Ableton at all? Or is it a case of it'll run that stuff, but the stability isn't guaranteed? I'm running a load of plugins and Ableton on my iMac (mid-2010) and I can do quite a bit with this system. Just wondering if this could be a reasonably priced upgrade, or will it just not work with any of the software I currently use...
Bottom line is that without certified Big Sur releases, you cant be 100% sure of compatibility, and for the M1 silicon nataive apps, not much out there yet.
@@sonicstate Best to stay away from it, at the moment, then. Cheers!
The Mac mini 8GB holds the same track number as the 16GB 16" MBP? Damn!
I'd be surprised if all iOS apps run on the M1, as there will be a price point problem with overlapping products (Klevgrand, for instance has a two tier pricing system). I suspect that it will only be free, or unique to iOS Apps...(incidentally, the right hand CPU level indicator seemed to kick in on lookahead)
you could run Logic in emulation mode , this will let you run emulated plugins
This was a great look at the hardware. I am not bothered about how many terraflops it can push through the System on a Chip, I want to know how much cheese I can melt through it before it collapses!
Hi, will a Mac mini M1 16 gb do for producing radio ads, Podcasts and jingles on a daily basis? or should I go for the Mac Studio?
I will assembly a Ryzen 5950x based PC as my new workstation but I'm very happy for the new ARM-based Apple machines. Because this means that Max/Msp will be finally compatible with Bela or Raspberry Pi.
I have a Ryzen 9 3950x 2080ti PC running Ableton and pro tools and it's an absolute beast. It makes my 2018 MBP feel like a toy in comparison ( yes I'm aware that I'm comparing a laptop to a desktop but still, It'd give a new Mac Pro a run for its money too. )
I would have loved to seen more comparison to the latest intel mac mini.
Sadly, we don't have one
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in performance meter it's rather obvious M1 is running out all the time, stressing the low performance cores as well,
I'm afraid reasonable minimum for decent audio production on M1 will be 8-12 high performance cores and 32GB ram, hopefully Apple will come up with machine capable of so
thanks!
I have trouble running one instance of Repro at the highest settings with a quad core i7 and 8 gigs of ram. It’s one of the main reason I started getting more outboard gear. And for 4k video, I have to use proxies. This is seriously enticing.
4k isn't processor problem more a graphics problem. Having an quad core i7 means nothing to 4k video, same as 8 gigs of ram
@@v-em The problem was partly that I was forced to used that computer for video editing while working from home. I finally got to bring my work computer home, but there’s no budget to upgrade the graphics card, which was decent in 2014.
@@geephlips shame as a decent enough card isn't that much nowadays
Old video but I got a used Lenovo P51 Xeon for a quarter of the price of the machine displayed here. 32Gigs of ram and has a brilliant screen. I can squeeze more out of it than this machine and even record +28 tracks from my soundcard at the same time. So yeah, I know the mini is a new machine, but for far less you can get a better machine if youre ok with Windows (That runs all the plugins) that doesnt run Logic officially
Lol
Bought one to kick the tires etc. but no way I could use it yet since no UAD apollo interface support yet
Korg Gadget etc not being available on Apple Silicon is because the app developers have opted out of allowing their iOS apps to run under macOS. For Cubasis this makes sense as it may cannibalise Cubase sales (which is available for Big Sur, perhaps you meant it's not yet available as a native M1 app), but the reasons for Korg excluding it, only they will know the answer to that, seems odd imo.
hi thank you for this review, can you check if there is a background precalculation/render of the audio in logic? it could be a bias to your benchmarks
such tricks are interesting for producing or mixing but not in a live situation. cheers
Software updates have come a long way since this video. 95% of my software works fine on the M1 mini under Big Sur with RME HDSPe AIO Pro.
I get discount every time when bying computers from Apple. I just say I produce music and gets 10% off.
What about ios Auv3 plugins on logic?
Did you activate the Multicore-Button on the Diva on the upper right of the GUI? I think not.
useless on m1
are there also non native plugins used (via Rosetta)?
Sorry, it's mentioned at 8.30. Very good review, thnx!!
So in terms of recording and controlling outboard synths, how would the new macs be right now?
Far behind AMD ;)
It seems the M1 has less bandwidth or connectivity for external devices. They removed one Thunderbolt port and there's less USB ports. Reports of USB problems are around on the web.
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Apple would be wise to bundle their new M1 machines with Logic Pro X as standard.. just to kickstart the M1 market share.
That's a good idea. I wonder if they will
No, that’s what Garageband is for.
@@BubbaSatori Marketing 101
It comes with Garage band and imovie which are great for people starting out.
Can you load the iOS app into Logic?
Just curious on a few points:
Would multicore on Diva help?
What’s the latency / audio output settings?
We were working at 64 to ocheck the latency on the Diva session, 1024 on the Native
There is no native binary for Diva. The U-he guys say it is on the way. They are having to do some optimisations for their compiler apparently: www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=548945&sid=c28a65b1041b66a7b590bd83f253638a&start=90
At the moment the only way to run Diva is to emulate it on the M1 (and I use the term emulate here in a general sense; only to mean translate X86 to Risc on the fly). Diva in this testing is the Intel version. You will always exhibit a performance penalty trying to emulate non-native code but nonetheless I think what Apple have done even in this area is pretty impressive.
...and yes once Diva is ported to run on Risc (ARM) it will perform a lot better. Single core performance on the M1 is out of this world. Apple really have something special on their hands here. And all of this at around 20watts system power.
@@sonicstate yes thanks, that’s the one I was curious about. It’s crazy good. Might even be able to run a Softube plugin.
Diva is such a CPU hog, I usually just avoid it.
The mini is cool. But my HDMI only works with the adaptor. The HDMI port does not work. :*(
Thanks. I've been looking to get into Apple computers for probably twenty years now. Having seen the potential here, I'm definitely going to give it a few more decades, see how it develops then give it some proper, serious thought. 🙄
Absolutely spot on.
I wonder if you can run BM3 on this lol???
Nick....time to contact Claudia Brücken. ;)
Hi, can you do the new macbook pro?
Oof this has really scuppered my plans to start building a PC. All I have currently is a Windows laptop, a PC build would be quite an investment of time and money for me on a small budget... if we were a couple more years into the future and everything ran well on M1 this would be ideal
I certainly don't agree with that Jack. Start small and then upgrade as you go along. Depends on budget but a decent Win PC has lots of value these days if you know what to get
@@v-em I agree with this. I have a Ryzen 2600X in my PC which is about 2 and a half years old now and it can run 50 instances of Diva on Divine without batting an eyelid.
thanks guys, maybe a PC build is still on the table then.. I guess the allure of a small portable powerhouse like the Mac mini just makes me think that I could spend less time researching parts and more time making music. Computers are complicated maybe I'll go dawless 😅
@@jnee If you want convenience, then the Mac Mini might be the right choice (although it sounds like it might have a few teething problems for audio for a little while) but sheer bang for your buck, you're not going to get better value than a custom PC. It's a bit of research to begin with, but once it's built, you don't have to touch it for years - unless you want to!
You're right though, dawless is always an option. Ha
I was thinking the same. Speccing a PC build currently with a fairly high budget and this seems like a steal. But by the end of watching this I was thinking it is a non-starter. Lost me on no upgrading and £600 extra for 2TB!! That is a cheeky combo. So I would be talking £1700 for 16GB/2TB, I don't have Logic, so another £200 and I am talking £1900. I could get a Ryzen 3950x 16 core, 64GB, 4TB with RTX graphics (for bit of video/3D/gaming) for same money.
And I think the trick for any PC budget build today is those Ryzen AM4 socket. Just invest in a quality X570 motherboard, £150-200. That means you can throw in a £50 Ryzen CPU, add 16GB (so you an upgrade in blocks of 16GB to 32GB, then 64GB. 1TB SSD, with option to add more over time. So you could spend £600-700 for a 8 core, 16GB, 1TB setup then when you have a extra £100 upgrade memory or harddrive, and when you have another £600 in the future throw in a 16 core CPU, with no money wasted - other than £50 CPU which you can put towards a second budget build. So today £600 gets you a basic M1 type of spec, but over 12 months you'd spend less than a top spec M1 spec for something that cleans the floor with it. With the added bonus of being able to upgrade further and being able to run your software on it today.
I can understand why those not into computer hardware and a bit of graft would go for a M1, but they won't be doing themselves any favours, in terms of the future and fair deal. £600 for 2TB!!! For those that don't know a quality 2TB m.2 costs £300, with the same 3.4GB/s speeds. £400 would get you 5GB/s speeds. Cheeky pricing.
Unbelievable. And for a lot of musicians who think Apple doesn’t care shows very much that they do.
@sbmphr Yet Samsung and other Android flagship devices have over taken Apple on their price, and with these new Silicon chips, they’ll no doubt outperform most Window units for a lot less too. This Apple $$$ stigma associated with the company complete is somewhat a myth.
Haha. My 2019 i9 mbp16 32gb men..crashes with 10 plugins going. Running multiple instances of analog lab 4, msoundfactory, phase plant, repro1 and iris 2. I love watching units getting vastly outdated every year. I could buy four of those for what I paid for this laptop.. x(
i think you undersestimate your 16. The mac mini is faster but not that much faster than yours. Maybe 10-15% in real world performance
Does any one knows if the audient id44 works with the M1 macs?
If its class compliant, should do
@@sonicstate what is class complaiant?
What the pluck?
Seeing this kind of performance on the consumer machines already is very promising. Can't wait to see what an iMac Pro or Mac Pro with Apple Silicone will be able to do.
Which is why they started with the consumer models as the high end is a different story completely. People expect more IO and this chip doesn't deliver on that front. Apple removed a thunderbolt port, there's less USB ports and you can't use the external GPU box.
AMD Ryzen 9 machines are about twice as fast as the M1. Threadripper even faster still. There's a long way to go and even though Apple will improve performance, AMD won't stand still.
@@6581punk Have a Ryzen 9 3950x machine, can confirm, utter data chomping beast.
No PWM?
I'd be more interested in how it runs once you start loading it up with ram heavy Kontakt instances like Spitfire Albion orchestras for example.
I'd also love to see the M1 in an Ableton test too. Especially with load times on heavy arrangements.
Yeah me too
When you’ll start Logic until Rosetta you can open more divas.
Huh?
But they're native to Logic. How does it cope with 555 heavy-duty 3rd part plugins, lol? ;)
Did you see the first test?
Thought I had. I think you said it all has to go thu Rosetta.
Make video on Mac studio M1 Max
Wow, looking like the M1 is great as a little audio engine
They made it fly by using dram embedded on the chip. But remember you can't upgrade anything on it
True, but it seems that you dont need as much ram to get simillar results due to the shared nature of it. At no point during this was it feeling sluggish or underpowered, until we maxed it out. Would like to try some very large sample sets in there when they are ready, but we wont have it then, its going back next week.
Yes that's about the size of it. But ram is not dealt with in quite the same way so depending on what you use it for you may not need 16gb
@@sonicstate yes it's also arm based and tends to need less ram in many ways...
It's also got hardware acceleration for a lot of things it emulates to run old code which is why it fly and on TSMC 5nm brand new technology. Good effort but only if you don't feel the need to upgrade - and also I'd worry that as a first try from Apple it will not be supported for very long
@@sonicstate ram is dealt with exactly the same way, don't fall into that trap. But ARM tends to use less ram to run programs. Samples though and data take up exactly the same amount...
You can't even upgrade the storage on these at the moment
Not being able to upgrade RAM has been the reality for MacBook Pro users for many years. Granted, people have managed to do it, but for most people it has just been a matter of buying the highest-spec model and live with it. I'm still on a 2013 MBP with 16 GB RAM. Still fine for most things (software development, virtualization, Ableton Live, Gimp, whatnot).
All this will run WAY smoother if you turn logic not run in native... If you wan to increase performance , because some plugins are not native for the M1 ( for now ) but logic are . So it is more good if you turn ALL in a no native mode ( included logic ) , so the mac run better on a "" translate mode "" for all ... and in a few months when all will be ready to be M1 native , the at this time return at logic native ( because plugins will be native too)... same language !
M1x is just gonna put Apple right back at the top 👍
Love my souped up Intel Mac mini. When it's time to upgrade I might grab one of these or another MacBook or even the Air. Wasn't happy when Apple dropped Intel, worried about future compatablity, but apparently the performance gains are off the charts. Btw, time to color code your tracks before you leave. 😂
Just upgraded my mini. To a macbook pro -intel...And this thing is fast... Who knows what will work with this(usual apple problems). But still, now im like did i do the right thing.