Well I'm an owner of a A7iii and have to say Lumix colors are absolutely beautiful ! Beside that Lumix has def the best IBIS followed by A7IV then R5 and Z6.
nikon + panny shooter here. the IBIS of nikon is the winner for stills, for video it only works for tripod style with no movement at all; if there is any panning the IBIS tries to freeze the frame and when the threshold approaches it will bounce back and forth... the very last few frames of the first scene at 70mm actually shows the IBIS reset to the centre position. for video works panny has the best IBIS handsdown.
I think the comparison was not fair If you use all lens which has stabilization and the same focal lengths make more sense. For an example Canon R5 with 28-70 f2 was a wrong choice because of the non-IS version and that lens is hefty. Thanks
It's a shame Sony stopped in the Action camera department after the FDR-X3000 because at the time was contender for best in market and I've still kept mine!
Gotta go with canon and lumix it was close though, to me nikon was the worse. Have to ask though, why didn’t you just use the 24-70 RF lens on the canon. As it compares size and weight wise much better with the other lens in this comparison.
This video just reassured me that I made the right choice in purchasing the S5II. I am a Nikon user - always have been - and I plan to keep my D850 for still photography. Not being super happy with Sony or Nikon mirrorless, I really loved renting the S5 and now look forward to owning the s5II. Thank you for this!
well for IBIS the Lumix S5 is the winner, I saw the A7IV footage too steady... I have it, its not THAT steady unless you turn on active steady shot too, also if you're impressed with the IBIS on the S5, the GH6 is much better, I never use a gimbal with my GH6 actually, fun fact, don't be afraid of a smaller sensor guys, its the result that counts ;)
Agreed! Love my GH6 IBIS, did a helicopter video recently and the footage turned out super steady! I just need to tweak the autofocus settings.. it was my first time using AF since i normally use manual focus, and I changed the AF settings before recording, which made it difficult to hold focus in some shots. The GH6 autofocus is not like Sony or Canon.. but i have seen amazing results in other videos, i just need to apply their settings, and do some more tests 👍 Andy, If you use AF, would you mind sharing the settings that you use? (sensitivity / speed) Thanks!
@@haulfilms I know right ? it is a beast! yes I've used the AF several times on my videos and social media, I've found that one Lumix Leica lenses works best and faster, since all the Leica branded lenses have been updated to work with the GH6, my 8-18mm f2.8-4 is blazing fast when it comes to autofocus, but for other lenses like the Lumix 42.5mm f1.7 is a bit slow, accurate but very slow, on my G9 that lens performed way way faster than on the GH6, so Lumix Leica lenses work faster for the GH6. The settings I use are the standard ones, haven't changed anything because I feel its appropriate for my use case, but dialing -3 to the speed helps a bit, what works best for me is 1-area box (with face/eye detection), the camera will focus only on what's in the box you assign (doesn't matter the size or position of the box), it does not hunt or look for anything else PLUS turning on focus limiter and assigning the maximum close focusing distance I want and the far end point, that usually does the trick, hope it helps buddy!
Curious what the settings were for each camera? I thought the LUMIX was the best, but I own the Nikon and know that it has a couple of different settings for IBIS it would have been interesting if the IBIS modes used were shown and also what focal length each shot was at.
I’m a little confused with why you did use the a7rV? I think Sony will most likely be using the 8 stop going forward. Should be using the best offering by each manufacturer which the a7iv isn’t for ibis.
It is a profile picture, probably Clog-3 not very sure bcs I use Sony, but this picture profile lowers the contrast and saturation so that the sensor can capture more dynamic range and more light information, this is used very often if not always in movies or professional videos. This gives the editor much more information to play with in the editing room. Basically the video that came out of the Canon was very little edited or it wasn't edited at all. You can search on UA-cam "What is Picture Profile in videography" if you want to find out more. I hope I made it a bit clearer for you.😌
Coming from a Sony Video Shooter and Canon Photo Shooter who only shoots handheld.... aside from Catalyst Browse and there any other ways to make IBIS work better?
Lumix had best ibis but Sony had the best shake lol. Sony felt more live like. Canon looks good I think the r5 Is an amazing camera and then Nikon, oh Nikon.
The ibis from Lumix is KING! Working with Sonys(FX6,FX3,A7sIII) for almost 2 years with a production company and the ibis is just poop a lot of the times. Having shot with Lumix 4 years prior, It’s making me miss my S5/GH5 combo even more. Love my FX3, But I think an S5 will be my BCam in 2023
No micro jitter in cornes of Lumix, Nikon is last in this test. Sony seemed a bit worse than Canon. The Lumix tech and algritms seems to work together. some brands have have the and algritms that "counter" each other witch creates Image defects. Chris, Next time add some info to viewer what to look for. "Sway" on Horizontal Lines, Corner jitter, Image Wobble etc. Thx! 5+
You can pretty much tell what each commenter shoots with. LOL Lumix won, but I'll stick with the brand I have. Thank you for the video though! keep up the great work.
I enjoyed this comparison! I would also like to mention the S5 actually has the worst ibis out of the Panasonic cameras 😁 the s1/s1h and gh5/gh6 are all better.
For what it’s worth, I just traveled through Thailand (total of 7 flights with various companies) with three drone batteries and 4 camera batteries and I was not asked about it a single time. I was also worried when I really didn’t need to be 😂
What about the Sony camera ran through the gyro stabilization software? I am looking to get a more video centric camera from my a7iii, and the new FX30 is at the top of my list, alongside the A7iv, fuji x-h2s, and others...so many choices
Surely lumix was the smoothest. Sony and canan were similar with a micro edge for sony. Nikon was the less smooth of all four cameras. In all the video was amazing, because you guys are awesome.
Never owned a camera with ibis. I like my handheld work to have some natural shake and if I want stability I'll use the appropriate mount and maybe a touch in post within Resolve. I'm always surprised by how many people on UA-cam view ibis as an integral feature when choosing a camera body. It always looks so jerky to me when applied in-camera or lens. A 70-200 + lens would be the exception though for sure.
maybe for someone in a production oriented enviroment is not a big deal and is totally understandable but for digital content creator who are always on the go and convenience play a big part of the game, is better to not carry a gimbal or a beefy tripod. Thats why lotta people care about that. for sure for telephoto action it better be some sort of compensation haha
Those micro jitters in both the Nikon and the Canon take them out straight away. Wide, Lumix and Sony were very similar, almost the identical... tight though it's no contest, Lumix wins hands down.
as a person who owns a nikon z6, i’d take all the other cameras over the nikon. When i use it, i notice it keeps image still as it can until you move to far and it jerks lol
why you didnt use also a high class lens on the nikon? for me this test and video was super nice, but i dont get it why you didnt choose to use the "same" lenses, focal lenght on all cameras? and which settings?!
@@Not_Yuto_Horigome yeah, but then "which camera has the smoothest footage" makes no sense, also when we not know which settings he was using, because there can be huge differences! i mean... maybe its just me
They were comparing IBIS only, of course electronic stabilization helps even more, but Lumix has e-stab too on top of the top notch IBIS. I own the GH5 and S5, and the GH5 having such a tiny sensor, still has better IBIS overall than the S5, but of course, is MFT vs FF.
Dude, while this is a fantastic comparison, I gotta say that the production was just WAY too hyped for my taste. Now, this might be because I’m ADHD. But only half way thru the video I’m already exhausted and distracted by the style and volume of music. Might not be true for most people, and I know how much attention to detail this kind of production takes - so I see the value in that. Just take it for what it’s worth I guess :)
The S5 is dope. I've been wanting to get a camera more video centric but I can't afford to buy another systems lenses. Is it unheard of to adapt EF glass to the S5? I've seen adapters available but are they worth getting? Seems like you get alot for $1500 with the S5
Not unheard of at all, and to be honest, depending on what you do or need, investing heavily on great ef glass with smart adapters (either boosters or regular ones, but make sure they have pins for information) is one of the best decisions you can make. You get a set of lenses that you can use on all sorts of cameras, while keeping a your bases covered.
You might want to hold off on the S5 if you were thinking about it soon. I'm pretty sure they are about to announce the S5 Mark II, which is why Chris is in Japan at the end of this video.
It’s common, almost did it myself but heard that if I ever want to do photos it will struggle a lot with the af. S5 is very cheap now, like 1600 with an 85 1.8
I already know the S5 has the best. But I thought Sony A7iv was fairly close. Not liking how far behind Nikon is. Also to note, the S5ii will destroy this challenge against any camera out there rn other than the DJI 4d
I’m a Somy user and I hate the bad IBIS that I had. I was waiting for years for the Gh6 to make the swich. But then they came with that aweful AF. All cameras have awesome picture quality now. But I want sony’s AF with Lumix IBIS
@@mishkabaloo1447 that’s fair, I actually really liked them, maybe it was just the screen I was viewing on though, I thought the Canon colours looked the best
Lumis is the clear winner, Canon edged out Sony for second place, although after seeing the 4 comparisons, choosing the Sony over the Canon would be an easy choice based on how horrendous the Canon’s colour looked & the lack of dynamic range compared to the Sony(and the other two as well) in lowlight. I’m shocked by how bad the R5 looks.
There you go! LUMIX’s IBIS is second to none especially when we use telephoto💪
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Well I'm an owner of a A7iii and have to say Lumix colors are absolutely beautiful ! Beside that Lumix has def the best IBIS followed by A7IV then R5 and Z6.
I'm glad I made the right choice to go with the Panasonic Lumix S5, loving every bit of it! IBIS, colors!
in my eyes, Lumix S5 does have the best IBIS among all four tested. Thanks for doing this vid! Much appreciated!
S5 wins slightly. Would like to know what Chris thought. We need closure.
The winner is Panasonic S1 and S1H
S5II is supposed to much better - not sure if that's marketing hype tho
nikon + panny shooter here.
the IBIS of nikon is the winner for stills, for video it only works for tripod style with no movement at all; if there is any panning the IBIS tries to freeze the frame and when the threshold approaches it will bounce back and forth... the very last few frames of the first scene at 70mm actually shows the IBIS reset to the centre position.
for video works panny has the best IBIS handsdown.
I think the comparison was not fair
If you use all lens which has stabilization and the same focal lengths make more sense. For an example Canon R5 with 28-70 f2 was a wrong choice because of the non-IS version and that lens is hefty.
Thanks
Exactly my thoughts
Lumix' 24-70 f2.8 doesn't have ibis either. JS
Would be interesting to see the R5 + RF 24-70 f/2.8 as it is the only 24-70 f/2.8 lens that has OIS built-in.
Nikon has ois too
@@vladvlad6234 Only the old F-mount version of the 24-70 f/2.8E VR
S5 for sure was the best. I would be interested to see a comparison between the Sony a7R5 vs the lumix and see how the new ibis compares.
A $5300 camera?
Well there was a guy that tested that and it felt like a7rv had no stabilizer at all. Checl the video on youtube
It's a shame Sony stopped in the Action camera department after the FDR-X3000 because at the time was contender for best in market and I've still kept mine!
Should have used a Canon lens with Lens stabilization. Would have been the clear winner 😋😋
S5 hands down! We're compensating the lack of AF with superb IBIS 😀
90% of my videos are filmed handheld with the Lumix S1 & S5...I barely touch my Gimbal, unless I've to film in anamorphic 😅
Gotta go with canon and lumix it was close though, to me nikon was the worse.
Have to ask though, why didn’t you just use the 24-70 RF lens on the canon.
As it compares size and weight wise much better with the other lens in this comparison.
Lumix is actually such an IBIS beast!
I lean towards Canon but it was hard to pick a winner. Very easy to pick the worst though... Nikon.
Lumix have always done an amazing job with stabilization. No doubt about it. I still feel the old GH5 blows the A7IV out of the water.
lumix & canon the best... canon surprisingly noisy in the lowloigh compared to lumix
Lumix the clear winner. Kudos from a Sony shooter 👊🏼
This video just reassured me that I made the right choice in purchasing the S5II. I am a Nikon user - always have been - and I plan to keep my D850 for still photography. Not being super happy with Sony or Nikon mirrorless, I really loved renting the S5 and now look forward to owning the s5II. Thank you for this!
well for IBIS the Lumix S5 is the winner, I saw the A7IV footage too steady... I have it, its not THAT steady unless you turn on active steady shot too, also if you're impressed with the IBIS on the S5, the GH6 is much better, I never use a gimbal with my GH6 actually, fun fact, don't be afraid of a smaller sensor guys, its the result that counts ;)
Agreed! Love my GH6 IBIS, did a helicopter video recently and the footage turned out super steady! I just need to tweak the autofocus settings.. it was my first time using AF since i normally use manual focus, and I changed the AF settings before recording, which made it difficult to hold focus in some shots. The GH6 autofocus is not like Sony or Canon.. but i have seen amazing results in other videos, i just need to apply their settings, and do some more tests 👍
Andy, If you use AF, would you mind sharing the settings that you use? (sensitivity / speed)
Thanks!
@@haulfilms I know right ? it is a beast!
yes I've used the AF several times on my videos and social media, I've found that one Lumix Leica lenses works best and faster, since all the Leica branded lenses have been updated to work with the GH6, my 8-18mm f2.8-4 is blazing fast when it comes to autofocus, but for other lenses like the Lumix 42.5mm f1.7 is a bit slow, accurate but very slow, on my G9 that lens performed way way faster than on the GH6, so Lumix Leica lenses work faster for the GH6.
The settings I use are the standard ones, haven't changed anything because I feel its appropriate for my use case, but dialing -3 to the speed helps a bit, what works best for me is 1-area box (with face/eye detection), the camera will focus only on what's in the box you assign (doesn't matter the size or position of the box), it does not hunt or look for anything else PLUS turning on focus limiter and assigning the maximum close focusing distance I want and the far end point, that usually does the trick, hope it helps buddy!
@@AndyLSB Definitely going to try out what you’ve mentioned! Thanks for the suggestions brother! 😎🙏
@@haulfilms my pleasure bro 💪🏻
I loved my Nikon Z6 when I had it. It had better IBIS than my Sony A7IV in certain conditionsz
True
That Nikon seems to have, like, anti stabilisation compared to the rest
Hi Emily!! That S5 smoked everyone,DAMN...
@@AmitKumar-oq6qu it really did!
Lumix and Canon look pretty close.
But I'm leaning heavily to the Sony not because of the IBIS, but the colour
You chose sonys color science over the lumix?
@@Filmsimulation yes, entirely personal preference, I am very into that neutral colour
@@JBarry The canon is neutral for me, there's like a bunch of comparisons where the colors of sony's go towards red and the canon is neutral
I think that Lumix wins this easily, it would be even better if you tried to put a Lumix 24-105 f4 🤘
Curious what the settings were for each camera? I thought the LUMIX was the best, but I own the Nikon and know that it has a couple of different settings for IBIS it would have been interesting if the IBIS modes used were shown and also what focal length each shot was at.
I’m a little confused with why you did use the a7rV? I think Sony will most likely be using the 8 stop going forward. Should be using the best offering by each manufacturer which the a7iv isn’t for ibis.
Which is one is better for IBIS in the Sony line then?
I know this is all about stabilisation but the colours from the r5 look insane compared to the others
Insanely bad, yes, yes they do.
Did you not see how noisy the shadows were? It looked terrible.
Great Video! I wonder if at min. 5:00 the Canon R5 has a filter that changes the color like that or it was color graded differently than the others?
It is a profile picture, probably Clog-3 not very sure bcs I use Sony, but this picture profile lowers the contrast and saturation so that the sensor can capture more dynamic range and more light information, this is used very often if not always in movies or professional videos. This gives the editor much more information to play with in the editing room. Basically the video that came out of the Canon was very little edited or it wasn't edited at all. You can search on UA-cam "What is Picture Profile in videography" if you want to find out more. I hope I made it a bit clearer for you.😌
Coming from a Sony Video Shooter and Canon Photo Shooter who only shoots handheld.... aside from Catalyst Browse and there any other ways to make IBIS work better?
Gimbal, or technique (ninja walking) are the only other ways I know.
Lumix is King in IBIS and Colors 😍😍
And to think the Lumix GH6 puts the S5 to shame!
Same as S1/H
Lumix had best ibis but Sony had the best shake lol. Sony felt more live like. Canon looks good I think the r5 Is an amazing camera and then Nikon, oh Nikon.
well Z6 is pretty old camera, Z9 has excelent IBIS, better than sony, not sure about lumix
@@Sundirre but the Z9 is not at the same price range. But I think it will be fun to see a comparison between all the top of the line.
@@jonnymoments I agree, just saying that Nikon upped their IBIS game and it will be probably much better in their next Z6 or Z7 camera
The ibis from Lumix is KING!
Working with Sonys(FX6,FX3,A7sIII) for almost 2 years with a production company and the ibis is just poop a lot of the times.
Having shot with Lumix 4 years prior,
It’s making me miss my S5/GH5 combo even more. Love my FX3,
But I think an S5 will be my BCam in 2023
S5 mark ii coming soon🤠
No micro jitter in cornes of Lumix, Nikon is last in this test. Sony seemed a bit worse than Canon. The Lumix tech and algritms seems to work together. some brands have have the and algritms that "counter" each other witch creates Image defects.
Chris, Next time add some info to viewer what to look for. "Sway" on Horizontal Lines, Corner jitter, Image Wobble etc. Thx! 5+
Pretty much all of those cameras except the Nikon were relatively stable, IMO.
S5 for the win, followed by Sony, then Canon and Nikon in last.
You can pretty much tell what each commenter shoots with. LOL Lumix won, but I'll stick with the brand I have. Thank you for the video though! keep up the great work.
To my surprise the S5 has the best IBIS, I thought it would be Sony but this was a good video. Thanks for uploading.
I enjoyed this comparison! I would also like to mention the S5 actually has the worst ibis out of the Panasonic cameras 😁 the s1/s1h and gh5/gh6 are all better.
How hard is it to take cameras/drones on a plane? I’m always concerned they won’t let them through with the batteries?
For what it’s worth, I just traveled through Thailand (total of 7 flights with various companies) with three drone batteries and 4 camera batteries and I was not asked about it a single time. I was also worried when I really didn’t need to be 😂
The sony cant even get the orange hue on the background hahaha... cant trust colours to a sony
What about the Sony camera ran through the gyro stabilization software? I am looking to get a more video centric camera from my a7iii, and the new FX30 is at the top of my list, alongside the A7iv, fuji x-h2s, and others...so many choices
Surely lumix was the smoothest.
Sony and canan were similar with a micro edge for sony.
Nikon was the less smooth of all four cameras.
In all the video was amazing, because you guys are awesome.
The S5IIX latest update just demolished the completion in ibis. Looks better than a gimbal even when running.
Not looking at any single aspect of performance, I found the Sony seemed to be the most pleasing to watch.
love the test, awesome stuff, thank you!
Love the Collab With B&C...
That Seafood Izakaya behind you is dope
IMHO:
1. Panasonic
2. Canon
3. Sony
4. Nikon
Cool test lumix takes the day
I shoot with the Lumix S5 all the time and I can't remember the last time I used a gimbal
Panasonic and the Sony were tied in my opinion, the Canon still had the wobbles, and the Nikon was basically "What NOT to Buy!"
Never owned a camera with ibis.
I like my handheld work to have some natural shake and if I want stability I'll use the appropriate mount and maybe a touch in post within Resolve.
I'm always surprised by how many people on UA-cam view ibis as an integral feature when choosing a camera body.
It always looks so jerky to me when applied in-camera or lens. A 70-200 + lens would be the exception though for sure.
maybe for someone in a production oriented enviroment is not a big deal and is totally understandable but for digital content creator who are always on the go and convenience play a big part of the game, is better to not carry a gimbal or a beefy tripod. Thats why lotta people care about that. for sure for telephoto action it better be some sort of compensation haha
As a Canon owner. I have to say, that LUMIX IBIS is sexy as hell.
Lumix and canon thank u
"find the other picture" said at japan, is in the most interesting part in this video tbh.
Lumix!
Those micro jitters in both the Nikon and the Canon take them out straight away. Wide, Lumix and Sony were very similar, almost the identical... tight though it's no contest, Lumix wins hands down.
I own the A7 IV and i love it but the winner is the Lumix!
Anyway what the hell is doing Nikon? 😂😂
as a person who owns a nikon z6, i’d take all the other cameras over the nikon. When i use it, i notice it keeps image still as it can until you move to far and it jerks lol
What lens did you use with the Sony A7IV?
Nice Video
but I'm Kinda sad you took the R5 with the 28-70mm
cause this lens has no additonal staberlizer
why you didnt use also a high class lens on the nikon? for me this test and video was super nice, but i dont get it why you didnt choose to use the "same" lenses, focal lenght on all cameras? and which settings?!
He probably didn’t have the same exact lenses for each setup.
@@Not_Yuto_Horigome yeah, but then "which camera has the smoothest footage" makes no sense, also when we not know which settings he was using, because there can be huge differences! i mean... maybe its just me
Curious if active stabilization was used on the Sony, or just the Ibis.
They were comparing IBIS only, of course electronic stabilization helps even more, but Lumix has e-stab too on top of the top notch IBIS.
I own the GH5 and S5, and the GH5 having such a tiny sensor, still has better IBIS overall than the S5, but of course, is MFT vs FF.
Wow! An IBIS comparison that doesn't include the industry leader in IBIS, Olympus.
Ngl it's between Sony and Lumix. I can't decide but even if I am a Sony fanboy, I think I could give it to Lumix.
1. Canon 2. Lumix 3. Sony 4. Nikon
Interesting! Nice video!✌️
Lumix, hands down.
Canon, Sony and LUMIX were really good, but that Nikon was basically unuseable.
Lumix S5 is lit
Lumix was the best in the case of IBIS.
Dude, while this is a fantastic comparison, I gotta say that the production was just WAY too hyped for my taste. Now, this might be because I’m ADHD. But only half way thru the video I’m already exhausted and distracted by the style and volume of music. Might not be true for most people, and I know how much attention to detail this kind of production takes - so I see the value in that. Just take it for what it’s worth I guess :)
The S5 is dope. I've been wanting to get a camera more video centric but I can't afford to buy another systems lenses. Is it unheard of to adapt EF glass to the S5? I've seen adapters available but are they worth getting? Seems like you get alot for $1500 with the S5
I use EF glass for video on my S5 most of the time with the MC-21. Only 'issue' is the AFC doesn't work, but I manually focus most of the time anyway.
Not unheard of at all, and to be honest, depending on what you do or need, investing heavily on great ef glass with smart adapters (either boosters or regular ones, but make sure they have pins for information) is one of the best decisions you can make. You get a set of lenses that you can use on all sorts of cameras, while keeping a your bases covered.
You might want to hold off on the S5 if you were thinking about it soon. I'm pretty sure they are about to announce the S5 Mark II, which is why Chris is in Japan at the end of this video.
It’s common, almost did it myself but heard that if I ever want to do photos it will struggle a lot with the af. S5 is very cheap now, like 1600 with an 85 1.8
I've seen a couple of videos where Olympus stabilize even better than Lumix, at least in entry cameras..
Lumix
Lumix is crowned Ibis king once again
Chris your my hero
Chris can use some vintage lenses on Lumix S5
👍👍
S5 🎉🎉🎉
R5 28-70 lens not stabilized, you didn’t indicate if lens stabilization was turned off to compare
I already know the S5 has the best. But I thought Sony A7iv was fairly close. Not liking how far behind Nikon is.
Also to note, the S5ii will destroy this challenge against any camera out there rn other than the DJI 4d
S5, buy A7 IV was close. The interesting thing is the GH6 IBIS is even better than the S5, which makes Lumix the true king of IBIS
I’m a Somy user and I hate the bad IBIS that I had. I was waiting for years for the Gh6 to make the swich. But then they came with that aweful AF. All cameras have awesome picture quality now. But I want sony’s AF with Lumix IBIS
Chris looks like one of the Ben&Ben artists lol
Lumix
Canon
Sony
Nikon
I think it looked like 1. Lumix 2. Canon 3. Sony 4. Nikon
havent watched video yet but i bet it's a lumix since CH is on the lumix train right now...
The colours coming out of the Canon were absolutely bonkers 😳
I guess too much contrast and saturation. And also not right white balance
@@mishkabaloo1447 that’s fair, I actually really liked them, maybe it was just the screen I was viewing on though, I thought the Canon colours looked the best
@@alexpbowen In some shots from helicopter it looked to much for me
Why pair the canon with a lens without stabilization?
how to guess each camera:
sony -> great stabilization
canon -> great colors
lumix -> bad autofocus
nikon -> ibis is a joke
lumix...they should focus on the "af focus" now!
hey Chris, are you still in partnership with lumix?
cool vid
I misread the title as IBS showdown 🤦🏽😂
Lumis is the clear winner, Canon edged out Sony for second place, although after seeing the 4 comparisons, choosing the Sony over the Canon would be an easy choice based on how horrendous the Canon’s colour looked & the lack of dynamic range compared to the Sony(and the other two as well) in lowlight. I’m shocked by how bad the R5 looks.
Lumix easily