Yeah, that M340i is astoundingly fast. It actually does compete with cars $20k-$30k above it as well. BMW heavily underrates that car's power and torque.
Maybe if you didn't hit the gas 3 seconds late on the Genesis every single time, the results wouldn't be as drastically different. I say this as an M340i owner and previous Stinger GT owner.
@melvin I mostly turned in the Stinger because I got an amazing trade-in value for it in the current market. That said, the M340i is a better car in every aspect, most noticeably in the handling. Stinger definitely has more body roll and is slightly less responsive, as a lot of Eastern cars often are. The BMW is tight and handles like a dream. Both cars are fantastic. The question you have to answer is a personal one: is the marginal difference in quality/performance you get from the BMW really worth all that extra money?
@@mybro727 what are you talking about. The point of most comparison even a drag race is to pair cars that compete in the same segment. Do you want to see a Porsche Cayman vs a Honda Fit? The m340 is like 10-15k more. The G70 3.3 price compares closer to the standard 340i.
Not only 0-100 difference. Cornering, mission, suspension m340i is much more better. Especially when u drive around130-140 bmw is more stable. The price difference is acceptable.
As a recent owner of the new G70 I am not surprised by the outcome and considering the price difference the performance shouldn’t be the same anyway. Since I will never be drag racing my vehicle anyway, there’s no love lost, especially knowing I get plenty bang for my buck.
It meets the old adage of "You get what you pay for". That of course includes initial purchase price, maintenance, and resale. That being said, I'm still looking at the G70 for my next car. Hoping the next generation '24 or '25 will have a beefier engine.
@@hassanger8128 the kia is cheap $#!+. But that doesn't justify the fact that this guy screws up his launches in every single video. As soon as the hands start coming down, not when they're already down
Sam - You're right on the money with this comparison. I have a G70 3.3 and launch control builds no boost and is super soft. Once rolling, it's pretty quick. With a tune, you remove the launch control limiters and the car is MUCH faster and launches hard. It's all to protect that Genesis 10 year warranty in the USA. Props to the M340i. Very quick!
@@captainjack6890 It's actually just that the M340i launches that much quicker. The G70's are laggy from a dead stop, at least the 2 I drove back in 2019 were. Trade drivers and you'll see the same result every time. BMW's turbo and transmission tuning basically eliminates lag. My F30 335i was virtually free of lag as well...it fell flat after about 5500 rpm's but this M340i has the top end and the instant boost. Remember we are talking about a car that does 0-60 in 4.5 vs one that does it in 3.7. The result is exactly as expected.
@@hellgateiscloseddontgother8736 That and the turbo is virtually lag free whereas the G70 has a slight dead spot at lower RPM’s. When I test drove the G70 I had my wife and a couple kids in the car and the lag was especially pronounced. Even the kids noticed it lol
@@captainjack6890 no he didn't I could see and hear his foot hit the floor in video and the both took off about the same time (G70 just had a slow throttle response) like the Stinger does. Bmw and Audi's seem to have a bit less pause before going.. but I think this 340 is tuned, because on paper, the G70 is bit quicker
Test drove both cars and leased the M340. The Genesis was cheaper to buy, but the lease program on the BMW made the monthly payments almost identical. The stock was really low at the time on the Genesis so the lease prices were high. Although the Genesis had a much nicer interior appearance in my opinion, it seemed much smaller and less comfortable than the BMW. That being said, you can't go wrong with either.
@@kargo1517 lmfaoooo no it isn’t🤣🤣genesis builds are ok. Just watching the video I can visually see how the Genesis is cheaper and I can see those seats will wear down much faster than the BMW. It’s also slower.. BMW has a better AWD system. It’s more comfortable and has more features.. it’s got a legendary reliable engine in it capable of 800+hp with ease… You really don’t know what you are talking about🤣🤣🤣just because it costs more doesn’t mean justify the cheaper option because you won’t buy it. Currently looking at an M340xi I’m just trying to see if there is anything better and so far nothing.
@@Yinyang1277 Lolmax if you telling me BMW’s products are better, you clearly failed to see what’s inside of the Genesis 🤣😂 Genesis is clearly the better looking car of the two and has some of the best luxury elements, the fit and finish is so much better than BMW. Also cabin insulation and NVH is way lower than the BMW. Genesis gives way more exciting features and the 10yr warranty on the powertrain clearly shows their commitment to quality and their efforts to make a reliable product both of which don’t exist with not just BMW but any German product. I don’t see anything better in the BMW except that it’s probably faster but I ain’t gonna drag at 180kmph like a psycho everyday, so that’s not what I look for in a product anyways.
The launch control in BMW will completely wreck the Genesis if it was used properly. The driver does not know how to use it hence he rolled. IF he has the foot on the brakes the engine will go to Launch control and you will not be able to stop it until you launch. It wont roll
Then Again Same Thing Was Happening With The Genesis. You Wouldn’t Here The Sound Of The Launch Control Being Ready. He Would Floor The Gas All The Way.
Car and driver tested both cars and it shows that M340i is about a full second quicker at 1/4mile，so we expect the gap between two cars. Anyway，good comparison bro👍，keep it up！！
You’re so right. I have a ‘16 340i and the only thing it “lacks” is that it’s RWD. I have FBO, and upgraded turbo and Stage 2 93 and I have to set torque limiters to stay in the lane. But third gear will take you from 5 to 75 real quick.
Honestly I was reading some of the comments below and I just got out of a q50 rs into a m340 and honestly it’s in a segment of its own . The 8speed transmission is spot on and the acceleration from a dig feels like the car is well over 400hp. Thanks keep the vids comming Sam
@@b58.mathieu13 yea I keep hearing the same thing. I know the m340i is the overall better car. But in my area because I've been checking for a while, the Q50 RS go for about $8-10 cheaper than the m340i and have a better warranty that will give me a peace of mind. These are the things that lean me towards the Q50.
@@latino914 my cousin has had nothing but problems with his. Had to get a whole brand new engine because it wasn’t running right and now he did the lemon law to get all his money back
We all knew the M340i would win. Still impressed by the G70. Would have bought one if it wasn't for the great deal I got on my Stinger GT Limited. Sam, using launch control, try to keep it revved for 3-3.5s, this will help spooling the turbos a bit more, giving a slightly better launch control.
They measure they're horsepower at the lower altitudes that's how you get the conservative power number. At least that's what I've read when the 335i was out
There are plenty of those vids...the M340i is tough to beat. I have a 2018 Q50RS. The M340i doesn't seem to have any trouble with the Q50RS, especially from a dig. Result is similar to what you saw in this video, the M340i just launches so much harder. Q50RS is a great car but the M340i has more HP at the wheels even though it's rated 382hp vs 400hp. BMW horses seem to be a little stronger than Infiniti horses lol. The ZF8A is also vastly superior to the crappy Jatco 7AT in the Q and that definitely helps both the launch and quicker shifts.
The Infiniti Q50 RS is slightly faster than the G70 off the line if you look at the 0-60 times. Neither the G70 nor Q50 RS will run with the BMW M3 but there is a huge price difference as well. The Q50 RS and G70 shouldn't even be compared to the M lines because they are not relative in cost. They should be compared to the BMW 340i
@@naturalgainzzz7005 In my state there are bi-yearly emissions test that your car have to go through in order to renew your license plate sticker so I'll never get a downpipe but I bet it's fast.
Well that turned out as expected. I just spent some wheel time in an M340i and I’ll just say that the only car in the segment that comes close in a straightline is the Q50 RS400. Good luck TLX-S!
@@Tsand4 LOL no it's not dude. Every test shows the Q50RS is marginally faster in 1/4 mile with basically identical 4.5 sec 0-60. The G70 and Stinger GT both have launch control, the Q50 does not. See this is exactly what I mean about you G70 and Stinger fanbois....
@@mholmes9262 you can break boost perfectly fine on the 250 just cause it’s not labor launch control it’s still holds the RPMs at around 2500 RPM and then let you rip. The stingers loss control does not build any boost it’s a gimmick fake launch control but when you do a parking brake launch and can actually bill boost the Stinger and G 70 can do around 12.5 in the 1/4
A friend of mine has a m340i and on dyno it puts 421 hp stock. So yea, quite a difference from what BMW states. At least they lie in a good way so that it overdelivers not the other way around.
Honestly man I have a g80 and I can tell you are getting off the line horribly. You have twin turbos, you need to put the peddle half way down for the first 2 seconds then floor it. You just don't know how to drive that car lol.
Bro you you trying to make the G70 lose worse? I mean obviously the M340i would win but your not doing the best on the cut. All in all that BMW is on crack and makes way more than 380hp or it's secretly tuned.
That's not due to reaction time, it's because the B58TU straight 6 in the M340i is just a beast off the line. They should try switching drivers to eliminate that variable but either way the result would be the same. It's almost a full second quicker to 60 mph.
@@mholmes9262 you make a good point i didnt think of , i was looking at the car tires moving so maybe the foot was not the problem but the delay in the G70 , as an owner of a 19 G70 it does have noticeable more lag than the M240i i test drove
@@Dx-so7jm Yep, my Q50RS does the same thing. You stomp on the gas and there is a slight delay, and then, BAM...BOOST. BMW has just mastered the art of tuning, give credit where credit is due :) When I test drove the G70 my wife even commented on the lag compared to the other cars we drove (not the mention the tight back seat). But it really does feel a lot like an E90 3 series, that chassis is dialed in. Biermann did a great job with it, it just needs a bigger back seat and either a more soulful V6 or a straight 6 and I'll be in line for one.
340xi has 360 370 to the wheels which makes it more than 410 hp at the crank with 10% drivetrain loss. Just with a tune alone people are putting crazy 0-60 mph times with them.
Whatever hp BMW claims on paper, the car will put down at least that much at the wheels. It’s just the way they rate their horsepower figures, these cars routinely put down 390-410 at the wheels depending on the dyno.
Yeah it makes 382 horsepower at the top of Mount Everest on 85octane gas pumped from an decommissioned gas station in northern Siberia. God I want that car!
Either way, BMW always underrates their cars. I do agree with whomever posted about this vs a Q50 RS, which would be better competition as those are also underrated too.
40i is quick... Mx40i is what you need to watch out for. Those suckers are downright fast. And if it's an xDrive model, those things bolt from a stop, hard.
Mad Pistol ooo yea a 40i with X drive is a killer on the launch and from a 40-60 roll. Mini GTR type vibe. I would take a M240i X drive over an RS3 anyday.
The M340i takes off like a Model 3 Performance! Glad to see this matchup, the G70 is a great first effort by Genesis but the fanboi's needed some humbling haha. Lot's of vids of what has to be heavily modded G70 3.3T's beating M340i's, Supras (with identical powertrain and better hp/weight) etc and claiming nothing, or very little, has been done to the G70's. I drove a couple back in 2019 when they finally became available and while the ride, steering and handling is excellent, power was not extraordinary and there was noticeable lag from a standing start. Plus the back seat is kind of a joke.
@@bradley8974 😂 are you joking? Not everyone has to be giving out complements left and right about everything, the bmws have their negatives too. The Genesis doesn’t even have a full digital Cluster and a damn Sonota does 😂.
@@bradley8974 so because I loved a comment I’m a constant hater? I haven’t even hated on the G70. I actually like it and the Stinger, it’s the fanboys I can’t stand and I guess you’re one of them. Take your L and sit down.
The G70 is plenty quick enough for the buyer in this class. Case in point, I was able to run a 1/4 against an IS350 F-Sport and S4..The Audi won by a hair, but we were both about 3 car lengths ahead of the Lexus.
And started at list 3 time before the G70. But that not important. The bmw is a faster car of the line compare to all his German competitors. The question is does it worth 18k more then the G70?
Idk man, those b58’s haven’t been anywhere sneer unreliable so far. Also, it comes down to who lets to start first, a clean run nets an easy sin for the m340, bmw made it too fast for the class it’s in.
Modern beemers are actually decently reliable. Also, this video is not about reliability lol. The Genesis is a good car but the M340i absolutely dominates this segment.
You’re the most biased channel ever, anything you see against a Genesis, Hyundai, or Kia, you defend them. That Genesis got destroyed. No one is buying that thing over the BMW.
@@limitedreach4446 the Genesis wasn’t far off, and the only reason I am around the comment section supporting them is because of the constant hate they get.
Really nice race! And very well put together. Both had great reactions. I already expected this result when I saw the title of which BMW it was. Those who have sat in that car know
dude, Genesis G70 is worse than I expected holy shit. but yea M340i is crazy. Type S might lose to m340i as well, but it least it drives excellent. and it has really good sound
Genesis needs to go back to the drawing board and redesign a better place and better cooling for their turbos. It seems that heat got to the car. Genesis needs to be different in engine design from their siblings Kia/ Hyundai. I do understand reliability is a factor but just redesign a place for them turbos
@@mutualdecline2174 hey bro! I think that’s a smart decision. I hear the 2022 will have more features, no solid info tho. Plus there’s a lot of dealer markups for the 2021 because of all the hype.
BMW driver didn’t know what NO launch control means 🙈🙈🙈 he brake torque on every race.. we know the BMWits faster lol good races tho! Nice vids as always!
@@allenzoom9444 crying? Lol we just wanted to see both cars racing without using launch control lol but the Bmw driver didn’t know what that means lol...
I’m faster in my 2019 G70. Turn off both traction and stability control. Don’t bother with launch control. Just punch it and shift @ 5500-5600RPM. You’ll be much faster. I have the RWD one, though. 12.4 1/4 stock with 4.3 0-60.
6:38 I got an 02 z28 just like the one in the background if you look closely. Should have ran that against G70, would have actually been a good race. Did you race that against anything?
I'll take the Bimmer please!. It looks better and plus it has the B58 engine as in the Supra!. The turbo lag on the Genesis is very bad!. I would love to see an IS500 F take on the Bimmer.
C’mon…..if you got any slower off the line. The bmw is quicker BUT you make it look faster than it really is! Geez your reaction time is awful or should that be offal?
No one expects the G70 to win the M340i. Heck, even the S4 and C43 can't keep up with the BMW. Genesis, good job with your 1st compact. You developed the G70 to beat the F30 Gen 3 series. And you did (except back seat room). Now BMW got serious with the G20 gen, can you keep up??
Sam, why is your response not prompt? That seemed to widen the gap IMHO. In contrast, the BMW driver kept making an unfair head start. What the heck is he doing?
I raced a g70 in my 2021 M340 and the genesis got ahead of me by a meter or two at 120 km/h , but he said he punched it right away and i started in second gear and didn't punch it so my question is : does starting in 2nd gear have that much of a negative affect ?
Absolutely it does. Not only did you start in the wrong gear, but you also gave him the hit (let him go first) which plays a huge role. The outcome would’ve been much different if you didn’t give him those advantages.
@Sam CarLegion - Think you could get a hold of an IS500 and make it go against the G70 3.3T? I think that would be really exciting. Pitting the two Asian giants sportiest offerings and see which one is truly in the lead!
It would be nice if you switch driving each other’s car for each run, some drivers are more aggressive. Can you put cameras in each cars pointing at the speedometer 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Fully loaded 330xdrive will be around 53K fully loaded 3.3G70 is 54K. To get the same amount of features in the 340 your looking at 70K. Nice video but for under 55K it's a no Brainer G70!
Help! I am at lease end with my 21 340ix which I love! Buyout is $37K US. I'm shopping the G70 3.3T AWD because interest and lease rates are insane. After seeing this, I'm thinking of getting a family loan and buying my car. The m340ix smokes everything else in its class.
I am still getting this car because of those exterior, curves, interior and more. But Genesis needs to go back to the drawing board and redesign a better place and better cooling for their turbos. It seems that heat got to the car. Genesis needs to be different in engine design from their siblings Kia/ Hyundai. I do understand reliability is a factor but just redesign a place for them turbos.
I think the company is focused on sales and brand recognition. If they get a stronger foothold in the market, they will most likely start to focus on the performance aspect. Similar platforms to it's siblings is nothing new in the industry. It's a cost savings on the manufacturing side of things.
I don't think I saw one start that you didn't lag behind in the launch with the Genesis. Every single start the BMW moved 1st. I'm fine with the BMW being a tad faster but the starts weren't fair. Also..it isn't $15,000 faster.
I like genesis more for the luxury part than speed...I don't even care about speed when driving them. .I just like the smooth ride..ore fan of the g80 or g90
@@madpistol oh, was it a M340i ? i thought it was just a reg. 340i w/msport pachage.. that makes sense. missed that somehow.. I'd rather still own a G70K, save money for another trip to Santorini and some other islands and put simple tune on the G70, and have the better car and as fast as the m340i... :-)
Everybody knows the M340i is faster than the Genesis. This comparison is a kind of Apple to Orange because Genesis is not aiming to beat germans performance wise. It’s a luxury sport car sedan.. so there’s nothing to be ashamed of. The G70 is a superb car, drives well as you would expect in this segment but not the fastest. Who cares anyways…! Still gonna my next car.. ❤️Genesis G70❤️
The M340i should destroy the IS500 for 0-60 if that's your thing. I'm still impressed with the G70 though. That 3.3TT is a fun engine with a nice chassis.
@@mholmes9262 I agree... it is hard to beat BMW at its game, inline-6 engines. There are good choices across the board but they're benchlining a BMW. I know the M340 is quicker but I plan to get an IS500
I believe the genesis does not build any boost with the launch control so the BMW always has the upper hand. If it made boost you'd be a little closer.
Yeah, that M340i is astoundingly fast. It actually does compete with cars $20k-$30k above it as well. BMW heavily underrates that car's power and torque.
Maybe if you didn't hit the gas 3 seconds late on the Genesis every single time, the results wouldn't be as drastically different. I say this as an M340i owner and previous Stinger GT owner.
I say this as a Bugatti Chiron & Koenigsegg Jesko owner, that you are talking utter nonsense.
Jokes aside. I agree with you. 😆😆😆
@melvin I mostly turned in the Stinger because I got an amazing trade-in value for it in the current market. That said, the M340i is a better car in every aspect, most noticeably in the handling. Stinger definitely has more body roll and is slightly less responsive, as a lot of Eastern cars often are. The BMW is tight and handles like a dream.
Both cars are fantastic. The question you have to answer is a personal one: is the marginal difference in quality/performance you get from the BMW really worth all that extra money?
Agreed. Either he was late or the BMW got a slight jump every time.
I wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one seeing this obvious head-start. We all know who's gonna win, but give it a fair go.
Everyone knew the M340i was gonna win, but it also cost about 10-15k more.
The vast majority of people don't race their cars either lol.. I could care less which is faster personally
What does price have to do with a drag race?
@@mybro727 what are you talking about. The point of most comparison even a drag race is to pair cars that compete in the same segment. Do you want to see a Porsche Cayman vs a Honda Fit? The m340 is like 10-15k more. The G70 3.3 price compares closer to the standard 340i.
it only cost at 10-15k more if you get MSRP. Mine was 64k MSRP that i got for 54K.
Not only 0-100 difference. Cornering, mission, suspension m340i is much more better. Especially when u drive around130-140 bmw is more stable. The price difference is acceptable.
As a recent owner of the new G70 I am not surprised by the outcome and considering the price difference the performance shouldn’t be the same anyway. Since I will never be drag racing my vehicle anyway, there’s no love lost, especially knowing I get plenty bang for my buck.
Congratulations
Also i have bmw but gotta admit g70 looks better
M340i is a better car especially that superior transmission
It meets the old adage of "You get what you pay for". That of course includes initial purchase price, maintenance, and resale. That being said, I'm still looking at the G70 for my next car. Hoping the next generation '24 or '25 will have a beefier engine.
And that’s the point. Who drag race a luxury car anyway?!
That B58 engine is a freaking beast. Imagine doing stage 2 tune to it😄😄😄
@@kylecrafton4489 g20 is the body style, the engine is the b58
Both cars can be tuned.
@@exothermal.sprocket Anything with a turbo can be tuned quite easily, but it comes down to what can handle more.
@@garrettfitzpatrick9605 Moreso depends on which ECU allows tuning.
@@exothermal.sprocket If your referring to bmw ecu's, I think they've all been cracked now.
The BMW is more quicker, but the guy start before the Go
More quicker? Haha
Stop this justifying.
It slaughtered that cheap Korean shit
@@hassanger8128 how is it shit?
@@hassanger8128 the kia is cheap $#!+. But that doesn't justify the fact that this guy screws up his launches in every single video. As soon as the hands start coming down, not when they're already down
That slight go before the go 🚶by the BMW made no difference on that outcome...thing is a beast.
Sam - You're right on the money with this comparison. I have a G70 3.3 and launch control builds no boost and is super soft. Once rolling, it's pretty quick. With a tune, you remove the launch control limiters and the car is MUCH faster and launches hard. It's all to protect that Genesis 10 year warranty in the USA. Props to the M340i. Very quick!
Thank you.
You’ll be lucky if that BMW lasts 3 years without major issues.
@@JohnLee-db9zt ... No truer words have been spoken
@@JohnLee-db9zt The B58 is very reliable . It’s not the 80s
@@phedeks Compared to what? The 2JZ? Doubt it. It’s not just the engine I’m talking about. It’s the whole car.
We knew the BMW will win
No need to jumpstart before the g70 every time
I said the exact same thing. G70 driver had a horrible start every single time.
@@captainjack6890 It's actually just that the M340i launches that much quicker. The G70's are laggy from a dead stop, at least the 2 I drove back in 2019 were. Trade drivers and you'll see the same result every time. BMW's turbo and transmission tuning basically eliminates lag. My F30 335i was virtually free of lag as well...it fell flat after about 5500 rpm's but this M340i has the top end and the instant boost. Remember we are talking about a car that does 0-60 in 4.5 vs one that does it in 3.7. The result is exactly as expected.
It awd make it since like jump start lol..
@@hellgateiscloseddontgother8736 That and the turbo is virtually lag free whereas the G70 has a slight dead spot at lower RPM’s. When I test drove the G70 I had my wife and a couple kids in the car and the lag was especially pronounced. Even the kids noticed it lol
@@captainjack6890 no he didn't I could see and hear his foot hit the floor in video and the both took off about the same time (G70 just had a slow throttle response) like the Stinger does. Bmw and Audi's seem to have a bit less pause before going.. but I think this 340 is tuned, because on paper, the G70 is bit quicker
Test drove both cars and leased the M340. The Genesis was cheaper to buy, but the lease program on the BMW made the monthly payments almost identical. The stock was really low at the time on the Genesis so the lease prices were high. Although the Genesis had a much nicer interior appearance in my opinion, it seemed much smaller and less comfortable than the BMW. That being said, you can't go wrong with either.
If you would do it all again, what car would you go with?
what did it come to on the lease
Genesis is overall a more complete car. It’s a better product overall no two ways there.
@@kargo1517 lmfaoooo no it isn’t🤣🤣genesis builds are ok. Just watching the video I can visually see how the Genesis is cheaper and I can see those seats will wear down much faster than the BMW. It’s also slower.. BMW has a better AWD system. It’s more comfortable and has more features.. it’s got a legendary reliable engine in it capable of 800+hp with ease…
You really don’t know what you are talking about🤣🤣🤣just because it costs more doesn’t mean justify the cheaper option because you won’t buy it.
Currently looking at an M340xi I’m just trying to see if there is anything better and so far nothing.
@@Yinyang1277 Lolmax if you telling me BMW’s products are better, you clearly failed to see what’s inside of the Genesis 🤣😂
Genesis is clearly the better looking car of the two and has some of the best luxury elements, the fit and finish is so much better than BMW. Also cabin insulation and NVH is way lower than the BMW. Genesis gives way more exciting features and the 10yr warranty on the powertrain clearly shows their commitment to quality and their efforts to make a reliable product both of which don’t exist with not just BMW but any German product.
I don’t see anything better in the BMW except that it’s probably faster but I ain’t gonna drag at 180kmph like a psycho everyday, so that’s not what I look for in a product anyways.
BMW was getting rolling starts for several of those runs. However, it still would be faster just not as fast as this video makes it look.
The launch control in BMW will completely wreck the Genesis if it was used properly. The driver does not know how to use it hence he rolled. IF he has the foot on the brakes the engine will go to Launch control and you will not be able to stop it until you launch. It wont roll
Agree. Launch control on the M340 xDrive is a beast
Then Again Same Thing Was Happening With The Genesis. You Wouldn’t Here The Sound Of The Launch Control Being Ready. He Would Floor The Gas All The Way.
@Outdoor Layne The M340i driver started early by rolling forward.. This is not a fair race. Fair race is when both cars start at the *SAME TIME*.
@@rockefelleragent1357 true, but wouldn't have changed the outcome much at all
Not too surprised by the outcome. But I'm glad to see what both vehicles are capable of in this setting. Love it!
Car and driver tested both cars and it shows that M340i is about a full second quicker at 1/4mile，so we expect the gap between two cars. Anyway，good comparison bro👍，keep it up！！
Thank you!
Actually it was .7 seconds faster. 5-60, 30-50 and 50-70 were pretty close between the two.
Love it or hate it... BMW's B58 + ZF 8-speed + xDrive setup is nearly perfect. There is literally nothing better, this side of a Porsche Cayman.
You’re so right. I have a ‘16 340i and the only thing it “lacks” is that it’s RWD. I have FBO, and upgraded turbo and Stage 2 93 and I have to set torque limiters to stay in the lane. But third gear will take you from 5 to 75 real quick.
I have a G70 3.3. Owned it for two years so far. I’ve never had a delay like this guy had. Something is off.
Since you have one, find an M340i and see if you can do better;)
@@SamCarLegion I have. It wasn't that much of a gap. It's not just the car that matters. It's also the driver ;)
@@Scott_Corwin well show us the video? Or maybe the M340i was asleep 😴
@@SamCarLegion besides, that comment wasn't about you. It was about the car you were testing.
@@SamCarLegion Sure, let me find the random guy and I'll ask him if we can do it again.
Thanks man your comparisons are awesome. I can barely find any videos testing g70 2022.
Honestly I was reading some of the comments below and I just got out of a q50 rs into a m340 and honestly it’s in a segment of its own . The 8speed transmission is spot on and the acceleration from a dig feels like the car is well over 400hp. Thanks keep the vids comming Sam
Anything you liked from the RS400 over the bmw?
@@latino914 nothing my cousin has a red sport and he wishes he had my car, interior, exterior, and performance is better in everyway
@@b58.mathieu13 yea I keep hearing the same thing. I know the m340i is the overall better car. But in my area because I've been checking for a while, the Q50 RS go for about $8-10 cheaper than the m340i and have a better warranty that will give me a peace of mind. These are the things that lean me towards the Q50.
@@latino914 my cousin has had nothing but problems with his. Had to get a whole brand new engine because it wasn’t running right and now he did the lemon law to get all his money back
@@b58.mathieu13 i love m340i except the stupid 130 mph speed limiter
We all knew the M340i would win. Still impressed by the G70. Would have bought one if it wasn't for the great deal I got on my Stinger GT Limited. Sam, using launch control, try to keep it revved for 3-3.5s, this will help spooling the turbos a bit more, giving a slightly better launch control.
1st the torque of those bmw 6 cylinders are really low in the rpm range. 2nd bmw motors are underrated. It's probably making well over 400 hp.
German horses are built differently
😂😂😂 this made me laugh
Yea they fake their number. They got more horses than advertised
@@pc8472 it's called better engineering
They measure they're horsepower at the lower altitudes that's how you get the conservative power number. At least that's what I've read when the 335i was out
@@e46m54nissansr20937 higher altitude you mean perhaps?
can't beat the straight six twin turbo, by far the best in class. love driving this car
m340i has 1 twin scroll turbo
Interested to see a drag race between q50 rs and m340i
Unfortunately q50 is slower than the g70 off the line and seam 1/4mail time
@@Ems-w4l not true my brother beat one stock vs stock
FBO Q50 vs m340 would be interesting
There are plenty of those vids...the M340i is tough to beat. I have a 2018 Q50RS. The M340i doesn't seem to have any trouble with the Q50RS, especially from a dig. Result is similar to what you saw in this video, the M340i just launches so much harder. Q50RS is a great car but the M340i has more HP at the wheels even though it's rated 382hp vs 400hp. BMW horses seem to be a little stronger than Infiniti horses lol. The ZF8A is also vastly superior to the crappy Jatco 7AT in the Q and that definitely helps both the launch and quicker shifts.
The Infiniti Q50 RS is slightly faster than the G70 off the line if you look at the 0-60 times. Neither the G70 nor Q50 RS will run with the BMW M3 but there is a huge price difference as well. The Q50 RS and G70 shouldn't even be compared to the M lines because they are not relative in cost. They should be compared to the BMW 340i
Nothing is beating the BMW M340I in it's segment. It'll likely remain at the top for a long time.
Your not wrong
@@naturalgainzzz7005 Wish I could afford a fully loaded one man. This car is perfect. Looks, power & an economical engine.
@@mutualdecline2174 hahaha
Drive one with a downpipe and tune..these cars are missiles..You can get one man invest in some crypto you never know lol
@@naturalgainzzz7005 In my state there are bi-yearly emissions test that your car have to go through in order to renew your license plate sticker so I'll never get a downpipe but I bet it's fast.
nah i think the new c53 amg will kill it
Well that turned out as expected. I just spent some wheel time in an M340i and I’ll just say that the only car in the segment that comes close in a straightline is the Q50 RS400. Good luck TLX-S!
The rs400 would get dusted too the g70 is quicker then rs400
@@Tsand4 LOL no it's not dude. Every test shows the Q50RS is marginally faster in 1/4 mile with basically identical 4.5 sec 0-60. The G70 and Stinger GT both have launch control, the Q50 does not. See this is exactly what I mean about you G70 and Stinger fanbois....
@@mholmes9262 you can break boost perfectly fine on the 250 just cause it’s not labor launch control it’s still holds the RPMs at around 2500 RPM and then let you rip. The stingers loss control does not build any boost it’s a gimmick fake launch control but when you do a parking brake launch and can actually bill boost the Stinger and G 70 can do around 12.5 in the 1/4
@@mholmes9262 "g70 and stinger fanboys" lmfao what, so people cant have a civilized discussion about cars without being fanboys?
@@unrealisticgoals Sure,, that's not who I was referring to. Talking about the ones who don't keep it civilized and factual.
BMW severely underrates their engine power especially for the 3 liter motor.
A friend of mine has a m340i and on dyno it puts 421 hp stock. So yea, quite a difference from what BMW states. At least they lie in a good way so that it overdelivers not the other way around.
No it didn't
@@carguy... Yes it does, everyone knows that by now
@@ralph02136 no it doesn't, I have a 22 supra with the same engine with better tuning and they NEVER put down that much on a dyno.
Honestly man I have a g80 and I can tell you are getting off the line horribly. You have twin turbos, you need to put the peddle half way down for the first 2 seconds then floor it. You just don't know how to drive that car lol.
Thanks for the video. Which one do your prefer the Genesis G70 3.3 t or Stinger GT 2 overall? Thank you
Genesis for the drive, Stinger for the looks and space
Bro you you trying to make the G70 lose worse? I mean obviously the M340i would win but your not doing the best on the cut. All in all that BMW is on crack and makes way more than 380hp or it's secretly tuned.
Lol g70 driver has the slowest reaction time i have ever seen , although even if the G70 had the headstart it still would not be close
Well make your own video and see if you can do better ;)
@@SamCarLegion Bro chill
That's not due to reaction time, it's because the B58TU straight 6 in the M340i is just a beast off the line. They should try switching drivers to eliminate that variable but either way the result would be the same. It's almost a full second quicker to 60 mph.
@@mholmes9262 you make a good point i didnt think of , i was looking at the car tires moving so maybe the foot was not the problem but the delay in the G70 , as an owner of a 19 G70 it does have noticeable more lag than the M240i i test drove
@@Dx-so7jm Yep, my Q50RS does the same thing. You stomp on the gas and there is a slight delay, and then, BAM...BOOST. BMW has just mastered the art of tuning, give credit where credit is due :) When I test drove the G70 my wife even commented on the lag compared to the other cars we drove (not the mention the tight back seat). But it really does feel a lot like an E90 3 series, that chassis is dialed in. Biermann did a great job with it, it just needs a bigger back seat and either a more soulful V6 or a straight 6 and I'll be in line for one.
The bmw is faster but rumor has it that every time this specific dude drives the cars he always loses lmao he can’t drive for shit
340xi has 360 370 to the wheels which makes it more than 410 hp at the crank with 10% drivetrain loss. Just with a tune alone people are putting crazy 0-60 mph times with them.
Bmw's actually make the manufacturers power numbers to the wheels not the crank. Big difference of about 15-20 percent more then what they claim.
Great review Sam thanks for sharing 👊🏾
BMW wasn’t playing when they made the M340i. For a fact it produces over 400+hp.
Whatever hp BMW claims on paper, the car will put down at least that much at the wheels. It’s just the way they rate their horsepower figures, these cars routinely put down 390-410 at the wheels depending on the dyno.
Yeah it makes 382 horsepower at the top of Mount Everest on 85octane gas pumped from an decommissioned gas station in northern Siberia.
God I want that car!
@@TheDad777 lol me too, it’ll probably be my next car but not for another year. Wife had me on a tight leash 😂
Either way, BMW always underrates their cars. I do agree with whomever posted about this vs a Q50 RS, which would be better competition as those are also underrated too.
Congrats it goes 1 second faster lol ..
What I learned today is not to mess around with anything that says 40i on the back. B58 takes the cake
Lool
40i is quick... Mx40i is what you need to watch out for. Those suckers are downright fast. And if it's an xDrive model, those things bolt from a stop, hard.
Mad Pistol ooo yea a 40i with X drive is a killer on the launch and from a 40-60 roll. Mini GTR type vibe. I would take a M240i X drive over an RS3 anyday.
The G70 always took off slow. The reaction times made the difference. This BMW is not that much faster.
The M340i takes off like a Model 3 Performance! Glad to see this matchup, the G70 is a great first effort by Genesis but the fanboi's needed some humbling haha. Lot's of vids of what has to be heavily modded G70 3.3T's beating M340i's, Supras (with identical powertrain and better hp/weight) etc and claiming nothing, or very little, has been done to the G70's. I drove a couple back in 2019 when they finally became available and while the ride, steering and handling is excellent, power was not extraordinary and there was noticeable lag from a standing start. Plus the back seat is kind of a joke.
Love this comment. My favorite line: “the fanboys needed some humbling”
@@drivescene6747 ur a constant hater on Hyundai/Kia/Genesis, that is for sure
@@bradley8974 😂 are you joking? Not everyone has to be giving out complements left and right about everything, the bmws have their negatives too.
The Genesis doesn’t even have a full digital Cluster and a damn Sonota does 😂.
@@bradley8974 so because I loved a comment I’m a constant hater? I haven’t even hated on the G70. I actually like it and the Stinger, it’s the fanboys I can’t stand and I guess you’re one of them. Take your L and sit down.
@@PapiAndrey ikr
The G70 is plenty quick enough for the buyer in this class. Case in point, I was able to run a 1/4 against an IS350 F-Sport and S4..The Audi won by a hair, but we were both about 3 car lengths ahead of the Lexus.
Lol Lexus isn't even in the conversation and hasn't been for awhile.
I love lexus for their audio system. I wish ML was on bmw or genesis
I own an M340i xDrive and it’s quicker than the manufacturer numbers. MT got 3.8 to 60.
Just a very slow reaction, so slow its hard to get an accurate reading
He brake torqued the launch every time
And started at list 3 time before the G70. But that not important. The bmw is a faster car of the line compare to all his German competitors. The question is does it worth 18k more then the G70?
@@avis1978 Tough call on the price...get an ECU tune and the G70 is much much faster.. Both great cars.
@@avis1978 it appears so because the BMW was launching very well while the G70 was not launching well at all.
BMW driver cheated every race.
@@SlipAngleG70 Well then you can get an ECU tune on the BMW too and make it much faster
Everyone knew the m340i was gonna win but it looks better and costs about 10 k more but it’s worth it
Genesis isn’t far off, and The genesis has more design and will be more reliable in the long run, plus cheaper.
Idk man, those b58’s haven’t been anywhere sneer unreliable so far.
Also, it comes down to who lets to start first, a clean run nets an easy sin for the m340, bmw made it too fast for the class it’s in.
Modern beemers are actually decently reliable. Also, this video is not about reliability lol. The Genesis is a good car but the M340i absolutely dominates this segment.
You’re the most biased channel ever, anything you see against a Genesis, Hyundai, or Kia, you defend them. That Genesis got destroyed. No one is buying that thing over the BMW.
@@drivescene6747 agreed
@@limitedreach4446 the Genesis wasn’t far off, and the only reason I am around the comment section supporting them is because of the constant hate they get.
Which one ended up with a check engine light on?
which one got smoked
@@rhyenvi you have check engine light on? Get it fix.
@@gomoso22 broke bois get the asian car 😂
@@rhyenvi naahhh why you got to bring the hate back to the bay? 🤣
Really nice race! And very well put together. Both had great reactions. I already expected this result when I saw the title of which BMW it was. Those who have sat in that car know
Smart man
What was the 0-60 time for each run from dig?
Same thing is going to happen to the Acura TLX Type S...but BMW is overblown with the prices..
dude, Genesis G70 is worse than I expected holy shit. but yea M340i is crazy. Type S might lose to m340i as well, but it least it drives excellent. and it has really good sound
@@Windforce7 If the TLX loses it will be for 1 or 2 car distance behind. The genesis lost for 4 to 6 car distances, crazy.
@@nevessl998 Damn, this comment didn't age well lmao
So happy I found your channel.
The G70 won’t build Boost on launch 🚀. That is killing it in the races from a dig.
Uh it lost horribly in the roll too
@@lightkira7488 driver mod needed
Genesis needs to go back to the drawing board and redesign a better place and better cooling for their turbos. It seems that heat got to the car. Genesis needs to be different in engine design from their siblings Kia/ Hyundai. I do understand reliability is a factor but just redesign a place for them turbos
@@elliotserrano7333 says everyone when the car they thought would win didn't...smh
When I bought my BMW 535i, I didn't cross-check with Genesis. Genesis was never in play, but they are making some nice vehicles now.
We all knew which car would win. Just wanted to see by how much. Nice video dude!
Thank you
Good to see u here man. Been thinking about waiting for the 2022 tlx type s to come out instead of grabbing a 2021
@@mutualdecline2174 hey bro! I think that’s a smart decision. I hear the 2022 will have more features, no solid info tho. Plus there’s a lot of dealer markups for the 2021 because of all the hype.
@@SamCarLegion keep the videos coming, people love drag races lol
@@drivescene6747 12 in the pipeline
M340i X Drive Vs. Q50 Redsport 400 Please?
BMW driver didn’t know what NO launch control means 🙈🙈🙈 he brake torque on every race.. we know the BMWits faster lol good races tho! Nice vids as always!
Yup that what i wana say also g70 have lunch control they didnt use
@@Ems-w4l yep! Oh well! Maybe next time we will get to see it using the launch control lol
Exactly what I thought
Ahahahaha cry more, even if he didn't do that the genesis was gonna LOSE too
@@allenzoom9444 crying? Lol we just wanted to see both cars racing without using launch control lol but the Bmw driver didn’t know what that means lol...
I’m faster in my 2019 G70. Turn off both traction and stability control. Don’t bother with launch control. Just punch it and shift @ 5500-5600RPM. You’ll be much faster. I have the RWD one, though. 12.4 1/4 stock with 4.3 0-60.
What is your trap speed with the 12.4 1/4?
Get the JB5....turns the G70 into rocket ship....
Guy in the genesis cant start properly to save his own life. They should switch drivers after a couple of tries
agree, Sam has slow reaction
My favorite thing about the G70 is that you won't see one in every corner. 😁
Both are excellent choices
6:38 I got an 02 z28 just like the one in the background if you look closely. Should have ran that against G70, would have actually been a good race. Did you race that against anything?
I'll take the Bimmer please!. It looks better and plus it has the B58 engine as in the Supra!. The turbo lag on the Genesis is very bad!. I would love to see an IS500 F take on the Bimmer.
C’mon…..if you got any slower off the line. The bmw is quicker BUT you make it look faster than it really is! Geez your reaction time is awful or should that be offal?
No one expects the G70 to win the M340i. Heck, even the S4 and C43 can't keep up with the BMW. Genesis, good job with your 1st compact. You developed the G70 to beat the F30 Gen 3 series. And you did (except back seat room). Now BMW got serious with the G20 gen, can you keep up??
No one? Look at the community post he made 3 days ago, idiots were saying the genesis would keep up 🤣🤣🤣
And you are happy they are proven wrong huh.
@@tmac1kobe8vc15 well of course
Sam, why is your response not prompt? That seemed to widen the gap IMHO. In contrast, the BMW driver kept making an unfair head start. What the heck is he doing?
Well that was to be expected. Still like the G70 a bit better though.
Great video
The m340i is faster then a rwd m5 to the quartermile I believe...very fast car from a stop
True
I raced a g70 in my 2021 M340 and the genesis got ahead of me by a meter or two at 120 km/h , but he said he punched it right away and i started in second gear and didn't punch it so my question is : does starting in 2nd gear have that much of a negative affect ?
Absolutely it does. Not only did you start in the wrong gear, but you also gave him the hit (let him go first) which plays a huge role. The outcome would’ve been much different if you didn’t give him those advantages.
@@Eddy-09 awesome, thanks for your reply , honestly the outcome bothered me for a long time , cheers .
Yo the M340i is no joke I test drove that car and boy let me tell u, it's plucking fast asf
It really is.
is it as fast as m3?
Master Try no not quite but closer than expected
Both cars look nice and perform well. That bmw is no joke.
@Sam CarLegion - Think you could get a hold of an IS500 and make it go against the G70 3.3T? I think that would be really exciting. Pitting the two Asian giants sportiest offerings and see which one is truly in the lead!
We should be able to soon :)
@@SamCarLegion Awesome!
What year is that BMW M340i?
Bimmer still the quickest car in the segment
It would be nice if you switch driving each other’s car for each run, some drivers are more aggressive. Can you put cameras in each cars pointing at the speedometer 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
the BMW jumped like one time. Everyone’s trying to make an excuse. The M340i is just simply way faster than the G70.
Truth
Put a JB4 on the G70 and the result would be a bit different.
Fully loaded 330xdrive will be around 53K fully loaded 3.3G70 is 54K.
To get the same amount of features in the 340 your looking at 70K. Nice video but for under 55K it's a no Brainer G70!
Exactly
I have a 2020 BMW M340i stage 2 tuned with a down pipes pushing around 480HP and i’m beating Hellcats like nothing from a roll and digs
Love the video. I have an M340i and there’s just not many cars out there faster.
Tesla Model 3 Performance
@@MalamIbnMalam Tesla is an electric car, you know?
@@MauriceBln1 yes, and your point is ?
@@MalamIbnMalam Comparing an electric car and a combustion car makes no sense.
@@MauriceBln1 why not? You can obtain a Tesla Model 3 Performance for less than a M340i....they are also roughly in the same size group..
Help! I am at lease end with my 21 340ix which I love! Buyout is $37K US. I'm shopping the G70 3.3T AWD because interest and lease rates are insane. After seeing this, I'm thinking of getting a family loan and buying my car. The m340ix smokes everything else in its class.
I am still getting this car because of those exterior, curves, interior and more. But Genesis needs to go back to the drawing board and redesign a better place and better cooling for their turbos. It seems that heat got to the car. Genesis needs to be different in engine design from their siblings Kia/ Hyundai. I do understand reliability is a factor but just redesign a place for them turbos.
I think the company is focused on sales and brand recognition. If they get a stronger foothold in the market, they will most likely start to focus on the performance aspect. Similar platforms to it's siblings is nothing new in the industry. It's a cost savings on the manufacturing side of things.
You can see the diffenced between sport mode and nomal on the bmw. It was moving so fast from a stop its scary.
BMW makes sick engines. I'd still pick the G70 for the looks and value.
damn that genesis looks fugly next to the m340i
I would love to see the m340i vs a tuned 335! Or M3 vs tuned 335.
Well I have an n54, I raced a fbo M3 and I was fbo e85. I won the race 3 times by a couple car lengths
Is that BMW truly stock?
100% stock
I don't think I saw one start that you didn't lag behind in the launch with the Genesis. Every single start the BMW moved 1st. I'm fine with the BMW being a tad faster but the starts weren't fair. Also..it isn't $15,000 faster.
I like genesis more for the luxury part than speed...I don't even care about speed when driving them.
.I just like the smooth ride..ore fan of the g80 or g90
It isn't luxurious nor smooth
BMW $10K more with worse warranty and reliability problems add another $10K +
Sam, was the BMW stock ? Because the recorded times for that is a bit slower than the G70, suppose to be.. Any mods or tunes on the 340i ?
Fully stock
@@SamCarLegion wonder if he was being honest ? G70 should have won or at least lost by less...
@@rpmautoreviews9249 Or maybe the M340i is just that fast? People don't seem to believe that the M340i is just simply a monster of a car.
@@madpistol oh, was it a M340i ? i thought it was just a reg. 340i w/msport pachage.. that makes sense. missed that somehow.. I'd rather still own a G70K, save money for another trip to Santorini and some other islands and put simple tune on the G70, and have the better car and as fast as the m340i... :-)
Correction, I thought it was a 340i w/sport package, its a m340i, is faster set up.
Actually, this new G70 is not much different from the G70 2017 version..
It’s a facelift it’s not a full redesign
@@Playb0ymari wait what it’s a full redesign for 2022 Superman grill I’m pretty sure.
There is no 2017 version. The G70 was new in 2019.
@@Scott_Corwin It was released in September 2017, and the powertrain part has never been improved
@@tommy13965 No, it's a refresh. Looks great, imo.
I notice something, the BMW driver, rev the car before launch from the start. That help to launch more faster.
Everybody knows the M340i is faster than the Genesis. This comparison is a kind of Apple to Orange because Genesis is not aiming to beat germans performance wise. It’s a luxury sport car sedan.. so there’s nothing to be ashamed of. The G70 is a superb car, drives well as you would expect in this segment but not the fastest. Who cares anyways…! Still gonna my next car.. ❤️Genesis G70❤️
That bmw has more power than was is rated by company. It's basically underrated.
I’ll Save the $10k and get the better looking G70. The difference in straight line speed means nothing to me.
Better looking lol.
It is an ugly cheap Hyundai.
@@hassanger8128 says a little girl who can’t afford a Genesis. Lol
There is no way a cheap built piece of crap will ever beat a German engineered car
Hey sam! Do a TLX-S v M340i !
It'll be even worse than this haha...the Type S weighs 4200 lbs.
@@mholmes9262but Type S has better traction and grip than that Hyundai !
@@Av3ntur0zky it's a really nice car, it's just too bad they didn't keep the weight down
@@mholmes9262 it's bad, but the car actually drives if it's 400bls lighter based on what reviewers said.
@@Av3ntur0zky I'm sure it drives really nice I just can't believe what a porker it is now. All cars are getting so heavy with all the new tech.
Genesis is protecting their drivetrains for 100k miles. Tune that out and is as quick or quicker than the bmw and Audi but you can do the same to both
What?
The M340i should destroy the IS500 for 0-60 if that's your thing. I'm still impressed with the G70 though. That 3.3TT is a fun engine with a nice chassis.
The G70 drives like an E90 3 series, it really is good. But the engine is outclassed by the B58TU in the M340i.
@@mholmes9262 I agree... it is hard to beat BMW at its game, inline-6 engines. There are good choices across the board but they're benchlining a BMW. I know the M340 is quicker but I plan to get an IS500
@@timw2083 those were the 2 cars i was looking at. went for the m340i because i didnt want to wait till September
@@blackfish4674 I think the M340 is a great car on paper. I haven't driven it cause I don't want to lose focus on the IS.. 🤣🤣🤣
@@timw2083 oh its a great car on the road as well, but I wish it sounded like the is500
lovley race! any chance u brining on the eco boost mustang anytime soon
G70 운전자 스킬이 떨어지네요.. 드래그출발이 아닌 일반가속을 한듯. 물론 m340i 엔진 명불허전이지만 zf 미션의 찰떡궁합의 승리
엔진스펙이야 현기에서 300cc 더높여서
비슷하다고 보지만
변속타이밍이 진짜 중요한대
ZF는 진짜 타본사람들만 알죠.
촥촥붙음
I believe the genesis does not build any boost with the launch control so the BMW always has the upper hand. If it made boost you'd be a little closer.