Folklore and pagan sites on Dartmoor and Exmoor
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- The desolate moors of Britain are home to ancient pagan sites. One such Bronze-age structure on Dartmoor came to be associated with Odin in the medieval times when it was named Grimspound. I also look at some pagan burial mounds in Exmoor, a Neolithic stone circle on Dartmoor called Scorhill, charming clapper bridges of the moors and I explain some fascinating local folklore about a stone with a hole in which can bestow fertility on a young woman! There are also some cute animals as you would expect from Dartmoor!
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My god an actual Historian on UA-cam......unpretentious and willing to admit that we may never really know the true intentions of our ancestors. From one Historian to another I salute you.
Whats the song at 6:30 ?
yeah I have stopped watching many... bcus im fed up with shouting out
"how do you know that"
@Valentin Bentley your right, no one gives a shit !
You prolly dont give a shit but does any of you know of a method to get back into an instagram account??
I stupidly lost my password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Leon Kayson instablaster :)
I love Dartmoor. It is always so refreshing to learn more about the rich folklore of the South West, and we must fight if necessary to ensure the survival of this folklore throughout the ongoing ages of social retardation.
Wessex lives!
Hope you keep your traditions and folklore, Anglo-Saxons.
The best to you and stay strong, from Gallaecia brother! 💪🏻
I meet a local from Dartmoor and he claimed that, when ever he passed or used it, to put a copper coin in a stone gap under one of those small bridges for the faerie folk. "And It was always gone the next time I was there!"
Those cheeky faeiries hoarding those coins!
Getting educated has never been so comfy.
Work like this justifies the existence of UA-cam, thanks
my paternal family have lived in the dartmoor region as far back as we have records, thanks for the insight StJ
That’s fantastic! Proper heritage I guess
Nice that’s the same I’m still lucky to be carrying on that generation and still live on the moor
you are the best historian on youtube.
These types of videos are always so chill
I am blessed by the spinners to have been born into such a sacred land.
Will Hall come in spinner
Born in Devon at Buckfatstleigh Dartmoor. Saxon and viking bloodlines, blue eyes brown hair. In the mountains of Portugal, central. I am farming and happy. Peace to all!
@@joebloggs7956 The best life one can live. Hail, my brother.
This is probably my favourite video of yours so far I love to learn about my ancestors something many people have lost touch with in these educationally devalued times.
I've learnt more about English history and folklore in the few months I've been subbed to your channel than the rest of my years! Tragedy how little of our history is taught in our state schools. Pre 20th century history is just brushed over with as little detail and as much vagueness and fantasy as possible and then they just hammer erroneous accounts of the two 20th century world wars into your head for the rest of time lol
Allahisgay Mohammedthefalseprophet We all know but don’t dare to say it
He ties the knots
"Tragedy how little of our history is taught in our state schools"
Almost as if by design...
@ Maybe because it's more recent and therefore has a larger impact on the world today?
the syllabus is like that to avoid discussing the wrongs of empire in british schools
Again as modern Pagan's we find ourselves drawn in awe and wonder to Neolithic sacred sites, knowing next to nothing about the religious practices associated to them and have no choice but to bring with us in our hearts and minds to these sites what we do know of Indo-European spirituality...I guess our Neolithic ancestors would not be best pleased to know we bring the enemy to their door. If only we knew enough to be able to separate the two and fully comprehend the difference in thoughts, attitude, outlook and belief...
Stefan Seniuk that's how I feel, I know it sounds delusional. But if I only new what the ancients truth was, I would defend it above all. FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@ripme6616 At least we are now beginning to understand what we don't know, which is a start. The Neolithic and Indo-European religions were different. We can no longer use ignorance as an excuse to put them both in the same pot. For example we can now say with confidence that the Druids were Indo-European. They did not build the megaliths. If their ancestral root was Bell Beaker then they may have been interested in them after colonisation, but they did not build them and they imposed their religion onto them. The fog is beginning to clear...However we still do not know for certain the Druid religion is as old as the Bell Beaker people but as fellow Indo-Europeans, their religious structure must have had many similarities...
It’s hard to believe you don’t have more subscribers. Your channel is probably being throttled by YT for speaking so much truth. Other younger channels with uninteresting delivery have triple the subscriptions. I have watched YT videos for years on mostly prehistory, ancient civilizations, ancient migrations, DNA science of ancient people’s, etc. and your channel showed for the first time in my YT feed about a month ago. Your respect for all traditions and your heart of an artist enrich your work ! Thank you for your shared passion and hard work.
In Italy the stones with a hole were considered sacred to the goddess Diana.
I've been trying for a baby, looks like I need to take a trip 😅❤ Lovely video!
Kay Oss wow.. do it🐳🍀📆
As someone that lives in a Med country, I just love the British landscape, its so green and it has a misterious air to it. Great video Tom ! Just like always.
So cute how he carries his pet rabbit with him everywhere
>Moors
Spaniard: *Glowing eyes*
Iberian Peninsula was originally inhabited by Celts. It’s runes that are carved in Stone there.
@@straitmurph
Iberians are still Celts by blood
Ian Moone yes :)
@@ianmoone705 sorry but no, Iberians are Iberians and Celts are Celts. However these two peoples existed in the Iberian Peninsula, are yes there were Celtiberians, a fusion of these two.
But, the modern descendants of the Celts who didn't had and doesn't have anything Iberian, are the Galicians/Gallaecians and Asturians.
And also who got more cultural influences from the British Isles as far as I know..
0:18 absolute unit
Putting this on my list of places to visit, cheers!
Earthling Carl #MeToo
Have you been yet?
LOL "...Decolonizing and rewild currency from a natural perspective..." after wining at history Survive the Jive went on and won at modern art also. A true renaissance man of our decadent age.
Love your work. I am an American, but I have Norman ancestry through Robert The Bruce, as well as Celtic/Pictish ancestry through the Campbell clan. Point being, I always feel pride for my people when I watch these types of videos. Thank you for sharing.
J May der eternal American
You actually have Robby Bruce’s DNA?
That has to be the first time I’ve seen somebody - and a goddamn Burger at that - claim Pictish ancestry. I respect that.
@@Floral_Green Well, then I guess I appreciate the respect (and that's also coming from a burger lol)! I'm assuming that's some Euro-slang for American because...wait for it...we eat a metric shit ton of burgers. Oh shit, I just referenced the metric system too! (I'm only giving you a hard time man lol! No disrespect.) Thought I'd throw that in there in case you took it the wrong way....
@@Floral_Green Burger here. I also have Pictish ancestry, and am descended from Robert the Bruce.
To be fair, if everyone knew their ancestry they would be surprised at how everyone has famous figures in their past. Considering that every Royal House in Europe is related to every other Royal House, having even a little bit of noble or Royal ancestry means you're probably related to the whole lot.
I'm Anglo/Irish/Dutch on my mother's side of my family and Swiss/French/Dutch on my Father's side. Yet I'm descended from Byzantine Emperors, Kievan Grand Princes, and Portuguese kings through the part of my line that's Norman French. Yet this is on my mother's side, who we did not think was French at all. Go figure...
Thank you for your work Thomas!
Peace from 🇸🇪
"Is it dead?" - Survive the Jive (2019)
Hahahahaha 😂
Tom ‘Devvo’ Rowsell
Indo-european history is so interesting
My Dad's ancestors came from Dartmoor and the families are still there farming on the Moors. They have always been there. My DNA and my Fathers has been tested and our ancestors have been of this land since Neolithic times. My family is part of this land.
Beautiful video. Love when you go to these ancient locations, I often get a feeling similar to that of seeing an awe-inspiring landscape in person for the first time. Great choice on the music as well.
Camped there for 3 nights with my son Rory one night in a stone circle woke up to loads of Dartmoor ponies around our camp , loved it
This is fascinating to see. I’m American with English ancestry. I love learning about the history. Thank you!
Scandinavian influence in Devon seems rather unlikely, and I'd rather see the name Grim's Pound as evidence that Woden was known as Grim to the Anglo-Saxons before the Danish invasions.
that is quite likely but hard to prove
Whereas Scandinavian influence in North Yorkshire is clear to see in the place names and dialect. Also the magnificent Roseberry Topping is where they worshipped Odin and nearby Freeborough Hill was where Freya was worshipped.
Even the Anglo Saxons had limited influence in Devon. One can tell from all the British saints worshipped on the North coast that Wales was the predominant source of culture pre and post Christianisation at least in the north. There may also have been a long time in which anything went. Romans have some influence and some of them have this cranky Christianity. Christianity becomes more significance to define Britons from Saxons but never all powerful, saxons come along and actually welsh bishops strive to make sure they reached their people on the other side of the severn estuary during the time of Saxon paganism. On dartmoor you often get a Christian church right on a druidic site. The Aesir may not have ever had total authority.
Wild camped in Dartmoor too! Unforgettable experience.
Love, love, love these videos. Love learning the history of my ancestors. It so stimulates my imagination.
Very interesting. One of the most informative channels on UA-cam.
Damn you and your obscure yet awesome music, I can never find it! Great video Tom
why don't you just look in the description
@@Survivethejive I did, but still struggle to find some of the songs, especially those bark sound productions ones
Greetings from Pagan Lithuania, Thank you for pagan view! Keep it goin, you doing marvelous job!
I think I just watched a man talk into the back end of a rabbit for 16 minutes.
we NEED " it's a fertility" shirts
It's nice you take your Tribble on your trips out....
@Mom Noll :)
6:55 is a really cool shot
Another fantastically put together and inspiring look into our ancient past! Thanks Tom!
Nice to hear you listening to Sam Lee on the drive!
Great video. Thanks for making it.
Another sacred gem, unknown to most. Glad you bring it all to be known by more, and I'm convinced a number of viewers have and will visit these places thanks to your edifying productions
I always wonder what the latest invaders to Britain will make of these ancient sites. Or will they just dynamite them all as well?
Dynamite them just like in Afghanistan
As a plymothian I am lucky enough to live next to the ancient and beautiful dartmoor.
You definitely get a spiritual vibe there!
@Cloud William Thanks mate, it's anglo saxon futhorc
The band Death is also amazing
@@jbscornerstore Hell yeah mate, they are definitely my favourite band of all time!
This is why I'm a patreon supporter. Stuff like this! LOVING the content Tom!
My theory about stone circles is that at least some of them served a purpose similar to market crosses: they marked locations where annual festivals and markets were held. They were built by competing rulers (priests, kings, or priest-kings) to attract visitors and traders. Perhaps these rulers even cooperated by building these sites in neutral territory. This would explain a lot of things, like:
1. The fact that a lot of stone circles are aligned in a certain way (which would have been the traditional start date of the market or the festival).
2. The fact that a lot of stone circles were changed and upgraded over time (after all, no leader wants to live in the shadow of his predecessor, so there would have been an incentive to keep building over the course of centuries).
3. The fact that large amounts of cut/chewed animal bones and other food waste were found near some stone circles (which means there was feasting).
4. The fact that in some cases - the area near Stonehenge is a good example - there is evidence of fighting over these sites. Perhaps there was a disagreement between two would-be rulers, or even an invasion by another group.
worth considering
@Sean Baker The bones - many thousands of them have been found - show signs of having been cut with flint tools and roasted over a fire, and the pigs were almost all young (less than one year old, born in spring and slaughtered in winter). This indicates feasting, whether ritual or not, but not purely spiritualistic sacrifices.
Thanks for filling the historical education void I've been trying to piece together for yrs on my own. Stunning area, love your teachings
Fascinating video. I believe there were 'Norse' settlers in more ancient times than current academia tells us. It may be that the name 'Grim' is far older than what we term the migration era.
There were certainly Germanic romans stationed here
@@Survivethejive We even have evidence of pre-Roman Germanic settlement in England!
This is T.V quality stuff (except people with sense don't watch T.V, they come to channels like yours but you get my meaning) You should have 10m subs. Great work.
Pls do some more video on Slavic Paganisam. Regards from Serbia.
It’s great to see you up here learnt quite a bit about my ancestors. I m from the moor and have lived here my whole life.
Lucky you
One of the best channels on UA-cam ✊🏻
As always, fantastic work Tom.
I'd never really seen the allure of Dartmoor until I saw your videos. Must visit one day.
Your presenting skills are the best yet in this video, you make ancient history so interesting. Great job!
Just realiised I'm subscribed to you. Was looking at vids of Dartmoor as i plan to visit and walk. Bought my map today infact!
My nephew suggested i subscribe to your channel. So glad i did 👍 Really enjoyable to watch. Thanks 🙏⭐
Those oxen and horses make the landscape look like you went back to the Bronze Age.
On August 14th (my brother's birthday) 1996 while on a driving tour of Britain, I was in the Lake District and "just before Keswick, turned up a tiny lane at tiny sign for Castle Rigg circle. .... Spoke to ... English lady getting photo taken with hand in stone, her mother did it too & had her ashes scattered there, returns every year. Believes in the energy of the stones etc."
The quote is from my hand-written travel diary, which featured at the top of the page every day a Special Sight, and that day it read "Lady with the hand in the hole at Castle Rigg circle".
It seems these ancient beliefs are very far from dead and even affected me, an atheist from NZ!
A great informational video with a bit of humor is always welcome. Really fun and right up my alley. Sláinte.
Your videos are a fanastic contribution and are benefiting my life works, thank you geezer!!
I love Exmoor, I've had such incredible times there and will always love it
Excellent stuff! Thanks
I've never been to dartmoor but the landscape is so similar to scotland, its crazy
Great video with useful and interesting substance, as always. Keep doing what you do!
As always, a truly fascinating and interesting video. Dartmoor has a special place in my heart. Great stuff.
Your work is so important. Thank you!
Great video my friend. Always damn good content my friend
Hail Odin!
great job. Excellent video
Loving the fuzzy gobo, almost as much as the content!
Great work💕
The Duke of Avalon led me to the Wolf of Alba who led me to your channel, yay💞
A. Stone base would have kept animals from digging in. I’m sure there was wooden fences above the stone. It’s a Bronze Age Stock Yard. Perhaps dedicated to Grim as this was where people came to purchase, trade and perhaps even slaughter their animals.
assuming it was still used for animals in medieval times!
Tom, I'm not sure you will see this as this is so old but I went by this stone with the hole on a solo trip to Dartmoor over 10 years ago. The locals I met mentioned another legend of it that was if you passed through the stone you'd have 7 years good luck or would die within 7 years.
A decent introductory video for those who've not explored Dartmoor or have little about the Bronze Age, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to theorise that Grimspound could've been associated with Norse sacrifice.
Well Lydford in Dartmoor was specifically established by Alfred as a defensive burh against Vikings. I agree it seems unlikely Vikings would go up on the moor, but the Norse root of the word Grim is established and undeniable
@@Survivethejive Was Lyford fortified specifically against the vikings? it's near the coast of Cornwall and not out of range of Wales, both of which I'd think more likely invaders. That said, we know the Vikings were on the Western part of the moor (once, briefly) because they went up the Tamar, but the Vikings weren't related to the naming of Grimspound- the 'Grim' part you referred to is more likely from the Germanic (or in this case I suppose Anglo-Saxon) version of Odin and was likely named by Saxon settlers at some point lost to history (presumably pre 7th Century Christian conversion) rather than in relation to Viking incursion or occupation. Anyway, it's a decent video and advert for the region, but I am surprised you could carry around that massive ice cream all that time without it melting.
Fantastic ; I go to Plymouth Uni and managed to walk to sheeps tor ... Will be sure to hit the spots you mentioned next time!
Thank you, once again.
Thaomas, you create videos wich are both absorbing, interesting and consist actual facts, not just opinons. This is how history should be learned.
Cheers from Poland, and I hope You shall visit us someday!
i was in poland this year and made a video! Thanks
What a great video!!!
You should come to American Stonehenge here in Salem, New Hampshire, USA.
I love these little sites, especially those to which some sort of folk practice is attached which has survived into the historical record. Tom, you ought to consider writing a book on such sites in England. I'm certain many of us would buy it.
Since I've watched so many of your excellent videos and documentaries, I feel like I deserve a degree of some sort.
Loved it!
Beautiful scenery and fascinating stories.
I see a Muppet whenever I hear folks called " The Beaker People"
I know he's holding a mic, but at a distance I keep thinking he's holding a cup of coffee (or tea rather) lol
Enjoyed that v much - thanks.
How nice of him to take his pet tribble for a walk on the moor😂
OMG you remind me of Kurtan from This Country at 3:36-3:40 haha! Great video i've subbed :D
your videos are excellent, going through them one by one :)
Yes please, more like this!
Tom you should come to the Burren in co. Claire.Similar topography and history. I'll drive down from Dublin.Go for a run and I'll buy you a pint.
Ah, it’s a microphone & not an ice cream!
as someone whose work inspired the Herts uni recent MA in Folklore studies I love this guy's take on folklore.
Thank you
Beautiful landscape. A huge portion of my ancestry derived from Devon and Somerset.
Very good!
Based on your reports my wife and I visited exmoor, dartmoor and the Whistman‘s Wood right after our marriage. Very good experience, thanks for your work.
Beautiful video, fascinating to imagine the pristine Neolithic era
beautiful place my goodness
Dartmoor, where the local spirits really, really like to play with the weather. Only place I have ever got a bit hypothermic on midsummer's day. What always strikes me when I go there is the investment the bronze age men made in moving rocks that no one would touch without a tractor these days. This was an intergenerational investment in the homestead and patrimony. The poverty of the soil however shows that one must also be wise not to push mother nature too hard or she will just get mean.
That first site wasn't for cattle, it was used for the rites of the wildmen, initiated by the horned god. The ancient Stella found in Upsalla shows in detail the rites that were held there, and depicts the purpose of the circle "hut" inside the enclosure.
this predates Uppsala by over 1000 years and is a different culture - the bell beakers. It was an animal compound with houses in it.
@@Survivethejive Even if it was a different culture, you say the site was linked to Wodan.. it's the lineage of tradition, and it can pervade different cultures and regions and times... but yeah, it HAD to have been a gigantic.. animal pen?... with huts in it?... or maybe it's like you said, that it was possibly Wodan's animal pasture?.. but then that would make Wodan of the Bell Beaker culture? But then how would Wodan have been in Upsalla, they are two different cultures, right?... hmm, I think maybe your "points" just aren't as sharp as you think them to be, but to each their own. Cheers.