Finally With AWD | 2021 Chrysler Pacifica First Drive
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2020
- It seems we're only allowed one minivan with AWD at a time. For 2021 the Sienna loses it (in favor of an optional eAWD system) and the Pacifica gains it. Aside from the added traction of AWD, the Pacifica gets a bunch of changes including a new exterior design, the largest infotainment screen in a minivan, tons of active safety tech and a luxurious new top-end trim: the Pinnacle. Do the changes equal enough to make this the Pinnacle of minivans?
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You know you're a dad when these kinds of reviews get you excited.
Yup. When those fancy big tricycle strollers only fit in a minivan and you still have spare room for Costco trips 🤭 😛
I wished more people liked minivans. I’m afraid there won’t be enough demand for mfrs to continue developing new minivans beyond this generation. Minivan sales have plummeted - especially in 2020.
@@Wasabi9111 this is why the Sienna and Sedona are designed after SUVs. The target consumer is your typical SUV buyer.
Damn dude I'm only 20, and far from being a father, I just like looking minivans so I got some space in the back for my gf and I when u lay both the seats down
Well... the kids running around your house is also a dead giveaway 🤪
The pacifica is such a beautiful vehicle inside and out
Alex does always the best reviews.
@@codydrumm5702 mistakes happen, still think he's the best reviewer.
@@codydrumm5702 - you should double check that. The Pinnacle has bigger 2nd row seats, different from the 2nd row seats in other trim levels. And those seats don't fold into the storage cubbies.
Sorry to be off topic but does any of you know a trick to log back into an Instagram account..?
I somehow forgot my login password. I love any help you can give me
@Kingsley Langston instablaster =)
This is the best review of any car I have ever seen. Great job!
Great review Alex, very neatly put together the comparisons on the side of the video, kudos for the great review, spot on, thanks!
Outstanding review Alex, heads and shoulders above any others. The words per minute with perfect clarity, no stumbling is again, outstanding ! The quality and vastness, completeness of information given has no equal. Thank you !
Baby Got Back Sir Mix A Lot lol, Alex has good taste in music!
A on A, best in the review business!
Good thing Alex drank his coffee this morning! Somebody needs to make a minivan selection tool, you'd only need about 400 parameters
I must have spent at least 6 hours playing around the parameters. I finally chose the Touring L with the Advanced safety group.
True and the interior of this model looks sweet and luxurious.
My dream minivan!! Amazing review Alex.
Great review Alex, as always. You were literally 5miles from my home in Charlotte at the Olympic white water center.
7:47 "gentle undulation" LOL 😂 that's a good way of putting it!
Almost the interior reminds me of the X7 especially the second moonroof for the third row. Nice
I think it’s the other way around since the Pacifica came out w them first. I do love how much light the sunroofs bring in.
We had a 99 chrysler town and county LXI Champagne and tan interior and gold lettering it was great when we need a minivan
Alex -- well done here - great review mate :)
Pacifica all the way.....though I do like the long second row seat travel on the Sienna. Still, Stow-n-Go makes the Pacifica great for hauling home improvement items. I've put a full size washer and dryer in my Caravan, and still had room to spare!
My grandma has a 2010 Chrysler Town and Country, the top of the line trim and I thought it was really nice. It had ambient lighting all around the interior and a nice infotainment system. It’s super comfy but this van looks like a Bentley or a Genesis! It’s beautiful on the inside.
AWD is nice.
Especially on colder climates where you get snow. Here in Canada most vehicles have AWD these days. I drive 2019 RAV4 hybrid XSE and the EAWD (same on new Sienna) works very well for low speed traction and mild offloading 👍
💙really enjoy the comprehensive reviews. my only suggestion is to include the trim info in the titles of review videos 💜
Just bought the 2020 AWD Pacifica launch edition, if you wanna see the awd system work I made a small video on youtube, its poor but shows me climbing a steep snowy hill, it's called "testing out the awd system on a 2020 Chrysler Pacifica. Thanks for the review as always!!!
Thanks for including the link.
That interior is stunning, looks like it could belong in a premium brand like Acura or even a lower end Lexus.
We have a plug in hybrid 2019 version and love it. A 50 mile electric range would have been nicer but we are registering ~50 mpg/mpge combined with our mix of commute and occasional longer trip.
Been thinking about getting the PHEV as well. Any issues with the vehicle? Thanksb
It’s only been a few months but no issues. It’s my wife’s primary vehicle and she loves it. I would say that I do like it better when it is running solely on the battery. It is very smooth and there is no gear up or downshifting. If you are trying to accelerate up a steep hill the engine will kick on and at a fairly high rev. Although the acceleration is smooth the sound of the engine can initially be a bit louder than you might expect. With transmission in L, lifting the accelerate results in more regeneration and closer to one pedal driving as you might get in a BEV. I have Tesla Model Y so now we do the majority of our driving gas free but still have a vehicle for long trips without concerns about charging.
That’s really good fuel economy! Hope more automakers offer PHEV or BEV options
@@remoravictim We’ve owned the 2018 PHEV for over 2 years now. The only major issue we’ve had was a bad wheel bearing. Otherwise, the rest were just really annoying software issues with the infotainment system that got fixed with the last software update. There were a couple of recalls but nothing effecting drivability (for us at least). My one pet peeve (other than the lack of LED headlamps) is that there is no hybrid/hold mode to keep your charge when going on longer trips like my Volt and Toyota’s Prime vehicles have. Otherwise it’s been a pretty great car, very comfy and spacious, love the electric motor power. Drives very similar to my Volt. As pxs231 said, it has great power up hills. I have no trouble going up the Grapevine here in California, usually one of the faster cars. I also think the handling is better than what you’d find in most high profile vehicles because the battery pack keeps the center of gravity low to the ground.
@@ScramJett thank you for the detailed reply. I didn't know it doesn't have the ability to hold your battery for city driving instead of highway. That's a bit disappointing. I do that quite often with my sonata PHEV but my wife doesn't because she doesn't care enough lol. Great info!
I'm a proud owner of a 2018 Pacifica eHybrid. I live in the snow belt and have snow tires and do better than my old Audi and Subaru did with AWD and all season tires. Skip AWD & get the Hybrid. Side note: I hit 71.5 MPG/MPGe as an all time high this summer.
If you live in Canada AWD and winter tires are a must. AWD especially needed in minivans with such low ground clearance to help minimize getting stuck in deep snow.
Id get a trim that still offers stow n go but except for that quibble it looks great.
The luggage storage comparison to the large SUVs is funny. Those giant vehicles and they have to have a luggage rack for the hitch or roof for a full family.
My dad had a Ford aerostar. It was a family vehicle. The seats were up off the floor and luggage or fishing poles would slide under them. It didn't have much for features but it did have the rear air conditioning. Back when manual transmissions where available.
Alex thank you for taking the time to share the vid. When you do your second review on your home turf, could you consider focus on safety side features:
Lane keep assist,
Lane centering,
Forward collision/Autonomous braking,
Drowsiness alert,
Blind spot alert - does it have it like the Telluride/Palisade?
Does it automatically bring the car back into the centering of the lane if it veers to another lane?
Backup alert - does it automatically brake?
Tire pressure monitoring system - does it show the separate number for each corner or just one generic warning?
Does it have auto resume cruise control?
Does it have Head-up Display?
Does it have Rear occupant alert?
I am very interested in learning more about the safety features since it will be a people and cargo carrier and road trips...etc. Thanks and looking forward to your next review.
Agree - any review these days should cover how well these features work. There seems to be a large disparity between how well Lane Centering works between the various manufacturers. Kia/Hyundai/Genesis seem to work the best between the mainstream brands, but would like each car review to cover this going forwards.
@@joemontana4370 I’ve heard Toyota’s lane tracing and adaptive cruise control are really good as well.
Alex your reviews are so much better than anyone else's.Thanks! A couple of questions: it looks like there is almost no front bumper. If I have a front end collision won't I incur significant damage? Secondly when you do your next review can you fold the second row seats up if your have an EV so we can see how much room is left?
For me I live in a city where nothing is further then 8 miles (one way) so the the EV is the perfect solution.
Great video as always. Is the seating position as high as it’s in a mid-size SUV like a Pilot? Thanks.
Great job. We have a black 2109 Limited S Package Hybrid just like you tested a while back. How long did you keep that vehicle? Did you use it beyond the testing period?
One other favor, as you test newer vehicle, could you please talk a little about the operation of the adaptive cruise? I’m specifically interested in how the low speed “cutoff” works. Does the adaptive cruise take the vehicle to a complete stop, or does the system disengage at low speed?
You live over the hill (looks like you made it through the fires) and we live in the valley. Adaptive cruise that takes the vehicle to a complete stop is an amazing feature in Bay Area stop and go traffic (when it returns). Very relaxing to let the Pacific manage throttle and brake in 10MPH traffic on 280. Combined with lane keeping assist, it is a poor mans semi-autonomous driving machine.
I would hate to have an adaptive cruise that constantly requires manual intervention at low speeds. It would prevent any practical use in stop and go traffic.
But it would be useful if you could tell us how these systems are implemented in your test vehicles, since details are often lacking on manufacturers web sites.
Its really nice 👍👍
Since Toyota and Chrysler recently restyled there mini vans... ive oddly been seeing older ones everywhere i go. lol.
This minivan and the Sedona are my 2 most favorite minivans.
I just ordered a Pacifica Limited AWD. I am coming out of a Dodge Charger with the V6 because the Limited AWD felt and sounded like my charger except with much more practicality.
When out of warranty, you can always put a Hemi into it.
I'd probably get the AWD Pacifica. If I was going to go the hybrid route I'd go with the sienna though. I'm not to intrested in plugging my vehicle up to charge it. With a regular or traditional hybrid the battery would be charged as you drive.
The vacuum option is dumb. I’d rather have the storage space, and save $500.
You can get a $50 battery powered handheld vac from Amazon, and not have to fight a hose.
That's why it is an _OPTION_ . You can equip your rig, your way. My cousin _LOVES_ the vac option because it's always there, in it's own cubby. A battery powered option might work from your garage, but what's the chance it's going to have a good charge when you need it out on the road?
I agree. That and giving everyone a tablet helps to save a lot of money on those options
those in vehicle vacuum are ok at best they give best suction with the engine running plus cost to repair it if it goes bad.. just not worth the money.. bought a Milwaukee cordless for $150 cames with accessories and has an insane amount of suction
@@alliejr if it's battery power u can use it anywhere.. plus depending on the brand will have more suction power.. in vehicle vacuum works best with engine running so its either burning fuel or engine off killing the vehicle battery
Hope the fixed the electrical issues many were having...
After months of waiting and looking, I'll likely bite the bullet and buy the 2020 Pacifica Hybrid Limited next week. Lower prices (thanks to rebate) and immediate availability make its appeal. Otherwise I would have waited for the 2021 Pacifica Hybrid, but by the looks of things it won't be available until Jan-Feb. The 2021 Sienna Hybrid lacks the rebate and is also limited in availability due to the pandemic.
The previous generation pacifica came with all wheel drive and it's been like that for years!
You mean the crossover from 05?
@@james2042 no the mini van from last year
@@wisegoonlegacy No, the Pacifica did NOT have awd in the last generation. the only minivan that had awd prior was the sienna
@@james2042 I'm a salesman at Chrysler and I've sold a bunch lol maybe it's a Canadian ting. Ps your capital letters don't scare me lmao
@Arsalan Shomail The Canadian Chrysler Pacifica never has AWD either. Look at the Drive Type section here - all were Front Wheel Drive: www.chrysler.ca/en/pacifica/models
Could you please review the sort of new or refreshed 2021 Land Rover Discovery HSE Lux
As soon as u get it?
It’s currently in the service department getting fixed.
This is by far the best minivan out there
If you don't mind it being dead last in reliability.
I am waiting for the redesign Sedona. It looks way better. Hope it has hybrid when come to North America.
I’m also excited for the new Sedona. Do we know when the redesign will be a available in the US? I just wish the Sedona had removable 2nd row seats.
Will it come with AWD?
I would so greatly appreciate a review on the hybrid pinnacle. I can’t seem to find anyone reviewing the hybrid.
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is this using the ZF 9 Speed that caused Honda and others so many problems that many gave up on it?
I would want the AWD but with the plug in ability. I think I would use the plug in system as much as possible and I feel like it would be the majority of the time. Its a shame that they didn't build one with both.
Can you please bring back the camera angle of the wheels spinning while you're driving the way you had it back in 2017, for instance? I really miss that. Thank you.
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So did you get any whitewater rafting in while you were in Charlotte? 😁
I want the hybrid. I don’t need AWD, which adds weight, mpg, and cost. It only snows a couple times a year here. Good tires are more important.
I have a truck for hauling stuff, so the middle seats isn’t a problem. I want the seats as comfy as possible.
You’re in the minority of people. But lucky for you there’s one available. Let us know how you like it.
To be honest, we stuffed a mid size sofa (large loveseat) from IKEA on our KIA Sedona with the second row seat all folded forward and it fit!
www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/klippan-loveseat-vissle-gray-s29010616/
So make sure is not over 70" (180cms) long
I'm seeing a few more Sedonas and seems people are Ok with the cargo space.
I got the Pinnacle Hybrid and we love it.
The 2020 Pacifica 35th anniversary edition had AWD.
Alex, do you know if the 2021 hybrid has a trim that includes a second row bench plus 360 cam?
How reliable are these? Hearing electrical/uconnect and engine stalling issues are common
Pacifica is the best minivan so far. Be it performance, fit and finish or the attention to the detail. Definitely people like me are confused between plug-in hybrid or awd 😄
Where I live it rains a lot and occasionally snows, so AWD is a must. Plus, Stow 'n' Go seats are a must, so that settles it. Buy a used Leaf if you want an EV grocery getter.
*This and the Sienna look good*
Sienna looks good???? 😮
@@JD-kf2ki what would you say is the best looking minivan?
If Toyota makes a Prime out of the Sienna, choosing between a Sienna Prime and Pacifica Hybrid would be difficult.
The Sienna is ugly!!
it looks absolutely horrible tho-
The back seat head rests look so flat in today’s mini vans lol.
I remember they use to be so big
Minivans are now officially crossing the $50k threshold! The Sedona still looks the best.
Hopefully these take over the Motor City 😅🙌🏾
Me too, Sienna AWD
I LOVE THESE MINI VANS , i live in the UK and these type of vans are just not available , for a while we had people carrier cars which were like these but nowhere near as innovative ,now all we have are small to medium size crossovers, so dull and nowhere near as practical for large families .
Is no one going to mention how he has Baby Got Back by Sir Mix-A-Lot in the radio at 10:00?
The new Pacifica has a really nice interior. I also like the AWD option. What is the towing capacity?
Unfortunately I think it's still 3500. I really don't understand why they won't bump it up to 5,000 to better compete with crossovers.
How things change! The 2019 Review had the Pacifica as one of the largest minivans, but by 2021 it's smaller than Odyssey and Sienna??
Anyway, got my Hybrid Limited this weekend. Incentives and Rebates were too good to pass up and put the pricing below the competition!
where the market has shifted mini van aren't competing amongst each other as such as against larger SUV and having the 2nd row seats a fitted to the vehicle doesn't make a difference to a SUV buyer on the fence between it or a Van besides the 3rd row down in a Van gives more space than in a SUV with 2nd and 3rd down
I believe the hybrid does not have stow-n-go seats.
Fart at 1:08 - you can't convince me otherwise lol. In all seriousness, I love the Pacifica, but hoping they sort out the reliability with this refresh
-prout-
Alex farted at 1:09. He tried to play it off lol.
So loud the metal in the body panel resonated.... 🤣🤣🤣
I feel like you should be the next host for MotorWeek.
Did John Davis die or something?
headlights and grille remind me of ford taurus
Why the 2019-2021 Pacifica Hybrids are rated EPA 30 MPG when battery is depleted while the older models 2017,2018 are rated EPA 32 MPG when battery is depleted as well?
Maybe I didn't hear it right but did u say this pacifica doesn't have stow n go? 🤔 if not why? Is this the hybrid one or did I miss something?
I have the current version of Kia Sedona and front wheel slip happens all the time even when I upgraded the tires. The new Sedona is also FWD only which is disappointing.
It's ridiculous how Kia chose not add AWD to the new Sedona, it seems like an intentional handicap. Considering it's built on the same platform as the Sorrento which does have AWD, my only guess is that they don't want the Sedona potentially stealing sales from the Telluride.
I actually liked the older pre-facelift front design...
I have a 2004 Sienna AWD Limited and its amazing in the snow and long trips, sad is the new Sienna is blaaa slow and no more V6, so I'm going to check out the the C. Pacifica AWD P. model but wonder about FCA quality vs my reliable Toyota
According to Motor Trend the 2021 Sienna’s 0-60 time is 7.9 seconds vs the 2018 Sienna’s 7.1.
So less than a second slower but significantly better fuel economy especially if you can get 44mpg like Edmunds did!
The new Sienna has the same 0-60 time as the Pacifica Hybrid which is amazing considering the Pacifica is a V6 hybrid
I wonder if Chrysler did anything to improve the small overlap crash test performance.
this Minivan received a 5 star rating.
I'm still waiting for a new version of the Chevy Astro...V6 minivan with 5k+ towing capacity and AWD. Please, for the love of...someone make one!
It's beyond me why they don't make minivans that can't tow anymore! Bring back capable minivans with SUV/truck utility, I don't see why getting a lot of space amd passenger comfort as to come with the caveat of no AWD on half of the models, poultry towing abilities and no ground clearance. Give us everything in one package!
They should shove a hellcat motor in this next!
Are you going to spend $70k for a minivan?
1:24 Pacifica actually have the largest dimensions for exterior man. It’s larger than the odyssey and sienna
I've been puzzled for years as to why more automakers don't offer AWD in their minivans. In the early nineties I owned an '89 AWD Mazda MPV. On an isolated logging road in early spring in the Washington Cascades, it slid off the icy surface into a deep snow filled ditch beside the road. Without the AWD I doubt I would have been able to get it out of the ditch and that would have meant a very risky hike of about 10 miles in a snowstorm. The Mazda wasn't the greatest vehicle I've ever owned but it likely saved my wife's and my lives. That's something I can't say about other automobile I've ever owned.
They do.. just don't sell them in North America's.. i seen almost even vehicle under the sun with awd option even a little Nissan Tida( Versa) or a limited slip diff in some model.. but its just marketing why sell a Honda fit awd there when they can sell u a HRV for way more money..
43000 bucks for a top of the line Pinnacle hybrid...
That is a good deal really
It is a good deal indeed... until it breaks down on you! 😢
@@CumBrianFries I mentioned that in a previous comment of mine... which I deleted
That it breaks down way more often than the Sienna, Sedona and Odyssey...
But still, itis one of the Bestsellers
I don't understand why people buy FCA products even if they know that they may break down
@@cyrilthomas9730 because some people like “ITALIAN” design, or some fancy feature in the car, but they don’t know these thing are endless money pits!
@@datthai8029 Yea I pity those people
But Italian cars a gorgeous
Don't get me wrong
I admit that
But as they say, don't judge a person/book/thing
by its cover / outside look...
@@datthai8029 You don't know anything about this car apparently. 3.6 engine is extremely reliable. Also it's not "italian". Italians have helped to improve the design, but mechanically it was designed mostly by american engineers, in Michigan.
Question?! We have the 2021 Hybrid Pacifica! When we drove it off the lot, it had
no lane keep assist?
So how, exactly, does the Pacifica hybrid get 82 mpg?
As long as you take care of your Chrysler, they are reliable.
If you treat every car like Toyota, you'll definitely only love Toyotas. Remember, there are not only AK-47 on the market, but more fragile M-16, M-4 all over the grounds
For the hybrid version: Any idea if they addressed the 12v battery issued that caused the recall on the prior model years? I was surprised to see that Chrysler still has not come up with a permanent fix for the recall on the 2020 and still recommend “do not park these vehicles inside of buildings or structures, or near other vehicles”. I would worry they would come out with a similar recall for this MY a few months after release.
The permanent fix is to buy a Sienna
@@andybub45the not removable seats are deal breaker for me.
I have a 2020 all wheel drive.
1. 2021 Sienna AWD (mpg with awd)
2. Pacifica Hybrid (PHEV electric range)
3. 2022 Kia Sedona (best looking)
The hybrid makes loads of sense though, 30 miles pure electric that's like 2 or 3 days for me and for everything else just run on petrol.
The hybrid had had some long-term issues, unfortunately, per Car & Driver.
best looking of all the minivans is the 17-20 pacifica "s" package with the original 20" black noise wheels. AWD is over-rated too. winter tires way more significant.
Perhaps true where it snows all the time. But in places like East TN in the foothills of the Appalachians, where we generally only get 1 or 2 significant snows a year, AWD with all-season tires is much more practical than messing around with winter tires. We moved farther in the "back roads" last year, so I want AWD for those few times it does snow, or when there's some wet leaves on the (uphill) driveway.
How is AWD overrated? Do you have a credible source?
@@ikelee 2 wheel drive with Winter tires out performs AWD with all session'd in the Snow/Winter. See AWD can't really help you when the tire compound is hard and trying to grip slippy/icy road. This has been known for well over 20 years.
@@jamesb3729 how does AWD with winter tires compare to FWD with winter tires?
I would hope most people would understand winter tires won’t help you icy conditions
this is at the pinnacle of all trims - the Pinnacle trim.
I feel like if Toyota went the "RAV4 route" and made a plug-in hybrid that was also the quickest of the Sienna models, that would make the choice very easy for a lot of consumers.
If Toyota is struggling to make enough RAV4 Primes to meet demand I can’t see a Sienna Prime anytime soon. Logically they will move on to the Highlander Prime next as Toyota sells almost 3x more Highlanders than the Sienna.
@@ikelee I can't argue with your logic. You are probably right. The car industry has been making decisions out of line with my personal preferences for decades now, so I don't actually expect to see a Sienna Prime anytime soon either.
Does the rear hatch door window open?
Can pacifica come with stow and go, awd and 8 seat configuration together?
No
I’d like a review of the limited. Everyone is skipping over the fact that some genius at Chrysler decided if you were willing to pay for the Pinnacle, you did not need or want a second row stow and go. That’s right, they eliminated the second row stow and go in the gas versions as well. If you want a second row stow and go seat, then the Limited is the highest model that it is available in. As far as I can tell, the only selling points for the Pinnacle at the highest price is that all the packages are added (even if you don’t want them), caramel leather seats, and a full arm rest. However, you lose the second row stow and go. I don’t know about anyone else, but that is not a worthwhile trade off. I was planning on the Pinnacle. Now, this model does not hold any appeal. Oh well, that saves me around $4000. Still, I would like to see a review of a limited. Are the seats actually less comfortable in the front or is it just the color that is different? Are there really any other substantial differences other than the lost stow and go?
I like the idea of the plug in version, but my wife wants the AWD. Since she will be driving it, guess its awd.
Hybrid AWD is here.
@@mg7685 oh really! I’ll look into it
That interior makes the new 2021 Sienna look cheap 👀
Yeah, that's a problem with Toyotas-- reliable but the interiors are cheap and generally awful.
@@alliejr Toyota has been holding on to the “reliability” claim for 30+ years. While it was certainly true in the malaise era of domestic cars in the 70s to mid 80s, it’s no longer true in 2020. The truth is that for the overwhelming majority of people that purchase cars new will have zero problems with ANY manufacturers vehicles. Every single car made today will easily reach 100k miles with zero issues. The vast majority of consumers keep vehicles 10-12 years or 100,000-150,000 miles. This car will easily reach that point.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 My wife's 2017 Pacifica has been in the shop 3 times already under 10k miles. So yeah, unfortunately my experience lies outside the "overwhelming majority" and thus has aided my decision to go with the new Sienna over the new Pacifica.
@@rebel7254 why you need 2 minivans in the family lol
@@rebel7254 you should play the lottery with those odds bud.
*I still prefer the body styling of the 2007 Pacifica Sports Wagon AWD model.*
Isn't it finally again? Didn't it have AWD for a short time?
While I think minivan's are a better buy then a SUV, comfort and other amenities, I don't think I would buy a Pacifica. I think if I were to buy a new minivan, I would go for the Sienna. In all trim levels for them being a hybrid, it's a no brainier. However, I hate the idea of waving your foot under the car to open the door. Who wants to do the hokey pokey holding your kids or groceries to open the door? The Sedona has a better way of opening up the trunk, just stand there and it opens within 3 seconds.
I ordered a 2021 Pacifica Hybrid when ordering first opened in Sept to replace a Sonata PHEV. Hoping to get it very soon. Decided to go with it over the new Sienna because I work from home so 99% of all of my driving is within that 30 miles of EV range. Plus, the new Uconnect5 system seemed light years ahead of what even the new Sienna will have. Look forward to that deep dive on Uconnect 5.
How reliable is it?
@@TheCoffeeField turned out to be horrendously unreliable. It was in the shop so many times for randomly dying.
Got a Kia Carnival instead.
@@aex90832 thank you for responding
Alex, With #36mpg and a 3,500 lbs tow rating, the AWD Sienna wins by a mile.
I like the electric range of the Pacifica-- makes it basically an electric car for 99% of around town trips. But I think there is no bad choice in this segment-- all 4 are good cars and beat every CUV/SUV if space (seating, cargo or both) are the reason you're buying something this size.
@@alliejr That Stow ‘n Go is awesome too
Alex, you said the floor is wavy (undulating). Since one of the attractions of the minivan is an improvised sleeping bed on shorter hiking or fishing trips (or even long road trips), how bad is this floor for that purpose?
It looks like if you throw some foam layer you'd be fine
@@makatron Foam layer is great against small surface imperfections, just like it is against pebbles and twigs, but how would it change the profile of the bed?
@@mountainhobo in my case when I go camping I turn off my brain master switch, but the internal surface it's mostly smooth so I fail to see the problem to sleep in it
The floor sweeps up a bit going to the rear seats, but I think you'd be fine sleeping, especially with a pad.
The car can also hold drywall with the doors shut. I love this thing.
@@makatron "I fail to see the problem" -- So you've already tested it?