Metal Player? You MUST Record Your Guitar FOUR times
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2019
- I discuss why metal guitarists must record their guitars four times to achieve a heavy stereo sound. Copying and pasting the same track doesn’t make any difference. Using Reaper, I show examples of a multitrack quad recording with my own guitar riffs. This is one of the most important recording and production techniques for a thick heavy metal guitar sound.
Here's the gear I'm using:
. B.C. Rich NJ Deluxe JR. V guitar with original Floyd Rose tremolo and active EMG pickups
. Reaper digital audio workstation
. Metal tone created with Bias Amp 2 and Bias FX 2 guitar modeling software - custom metal distortion with Mesa Boogie Mark IIc+ amp simulation
. Line 6 UX-1 audio interface
. M-Audio monitors
. iMac with Sierra OS
I had to learn this trick from actual industry experts sometime ago because I didn't know it at the time. I remember thinking "Fuck! How are these records getting these HUGE guitar tones!" and when I was finally educated on it by someone in the industry, I was like "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!".
you can record tracks simultanely, dont need to do it 4 times
It's not the same: if you only have one signal, it doesn't matter how you process or split it, the positive and negative peaks will always be at the same time, so when they summ up some frequencies will get boosted and some will be canceled. When you have different takes, this never happens and you can add them without any problem.
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I just came back to this channel because I remembered the cheesy ass music, didn't know he was still pumping out videos in fucking 2019
Love your vids and playing. It brings back so much nostalgia when I started playing. Thank you for your effort! Keep it up please
when i was a begginer in the guitar and audio production i was really disapointed when i realized that the biggest tones can only be archieved via this way, so i always was a chaser of the tricks of making a single track sound massive
A great stereo enhancer hack I found out by accident is to use Amplitube's Pitch Shifter effect with all knobs set to 0 and the switch set to "Split". Of course, it's not the same as recording four tracks, but it creates a really amazing stereo sound if you're just playing guitar in a live setting (or just jamming in your bedroom!).
Insane tone!
Very cool explanation!
Nice info bro 👍
I think that quad tracking usually works better for slower songs. I usually only go with double tracking for that cleaner sound. But I've actually never tried to quad track a faster or heavier song. It might do the trick!
Thanks for this tip dmo.
This guy is a god compared to me
Four makes such a difference I always record four with bias.Also is there any chance you could do hardwired next for bias
I was just gonna ask the same thing. Hardwired! Your tones are great! Especially love the "Rust in Peace" tone. I've been working at the hardwired tone but I would love to hear what you come up with.
Awesome
hey man, do you have this tone available on BIS FX and/or Amp cloud available? I love love love this tone and I’m really wanting to try it out
Hi DMO, somewhat of an unrelated question to the video (related to Bias FX2). I am looking to purchase it and was wondering if you knew if iRig Pro would be a suitable audio interface to play through the application? (Not recording through Reaper of anything like that)
Keep up the fantastic content! I plan on downloading your presets once I get all of that sorted first!
Not sure. I have never tried it. I use Line 6's UX-1 to connect (and record) my guitar with my Mac and Reaper.
And what if I want to harmonise or play slightly different riffs simultaneously? Do I change just two of the four tracks, both sides or two on one side?
So far, so good ,so what tone next video please
If you're recording two guitars that are playing different parts in different ears, would you recommend 2 or 4 tracks per ear?
Can you add your preset tone from thid video to a Bias cloud?
hey bro waassap?what do you think about amp vs sound card?
What if you are in a situation with two guitar players? My guitarist and I record our own rhythm tracks, so couldn’t you do two per guy?
It's not uncommon for bands with two guitarists to have just one of them record all rhythm guitars. I once read an interview with Kerry King where he said he'd record all rhythm guitars, and Jeff Hanneman would just come in to record his solos (I can't remember the album he was talking about). When I listen to isolated Metallica tracks, they sound incredibly perfect and tight with the exact same picking style, so I assume Hetfield is also recording all of them. Just a guess of course...
yes, it was just Hetfield recording, pretty much the reason ...And Justice For All sounds as tight as it is on rhythm lol
With a good setup and nice guitar I find quad tracking to be too much most of the time. The bass will help a lot with the tone in the full mix.
This was very informative for me. Just one question-do you keep the same amp and amp settings for each take?
Yes, I personally do. But some players like Dimebag Darrell and Tony Iommi use different guitar sounds for the left and right channels.
dmometalguitar Thanks for the quick reply.
I always thought that recording it less than 6 times wouldnt make it sound heavy even tho I havent tried it out for myself
I guess four would already be more than enough
Why not two tracks 100% panned left and right + another two tracks 70% panned left and right? All together 4 Tracks
That's what I do 🤘🏻💀👌🏻
I like to have the two hard panned tracks be one sound and the 70% panned ones to be a slightly different one.
I like that way to :)
If you have a fuller sounding tone,then you you only need 2 ,maybe 3 ,but if you want to start off with a little thin sounding guitar ,then you would have to do 4 ! I just recorded 6 songs ,2 rythym tracks ,but my guitar sounds a lot bigger than most others, still not a bad idea ,most people do that anyway ,especially one guitar bands ,except Van Halen, at first, but thst wes genius ,but also would love to hear those first albums multintracked.
Helpful video! Can you make Led Zeppelin 2 tone if possible?
My doom metal project uses a stereo amp setup with two different amps. How would you try to capture that effect in a recording situation?
I would record one amp in the left channel (w/ two guitars) and the other amp in the right channel (w/ two guitar tracks). It's not uncommon to mix different amps into the left and right channels. Some players do that.
Now when recording the two different amps should I do each amp on a different take or is it acceptable to record them both on the same take?
Sounds amazing on stereo but be careful of phase issues. If you use the mixer to play in mono it may sound like a load of noise. But hey... Only radio stations and Facebook still use mono these days right lol
What about lead solos? How many layers do you need to record a solo of for example Metallica’s One?
Pretty sure Kirk’s solo is one track. He did however double up on some solos from Ride the lightning. Usually if it’s an easy solo then I’ll double it but if not then it’s just 1 track
it's so hard to actually sync them up together even with a metronome. and i've been playing guitar for a year and a half so i'm not a begginer.
Tips?
Use a metronome and record while listening to the other tracks
You can record them all at the same time. You don't have to actually do it one by one.
@@nurumen6632 but it doesn't sound as massive tho
@@nurumen6632 that would be exactly as recording one track and copy paste it.
after year and a half, now two and a half years, dude... u're still beginner! You will see in 10 years (if you continue to practice) what I am saying :P
Hello, is there any way to reach you by email ? Keep up the good work !
Are you alive?miss your Tones
I agree and disagree, quad tracking is an awesome tool to make guitars sound massive, but it has its downsides:
1. Very hard to pull off flawlessly
2. On very fast and complex songs, it'll be a muddy mess rather than a massive wall of sound
In my opinion, double-tracking (two tracks panned hard left and hard right) is the best of both worlds, gives you the wide stereo sound without being muddy on fast songs.
Does reaper cost money
No, it's free
$60
@@obi-wannabekennotbi2418 It's not free. Stop spreading misinformation. It costs 60 bucks and has most features many 500 bucks DAWs have. Reaper is honestly amazing.
@@ThorsShadow You can use Reaper even if you don't pay for it, just like Winrar.
If you don't pay for the licence, it makes you wait 15 seconds before you can use it when you first open. But buy it... Its cheap enough and the best!
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Let's hear all 6.
That’s the way Ride the lightning got it’s THICK tone
I think they actually recorded six guitars on top of one another.
Do highway to hell guitar tone plssss
So now I have to play ON TEMPO FOUR times! Impossible I say!
The 1st track was mono.
I don't think you need 4 rhythm guitars. I think two rhythm guitars, one lead guitar, and a second double lead guitar is enough.
The lazy method : here's the secret
COPY PASTE
pan 70 percent to the LEFT
pan 70 percent to the right
if you want to add a copy pasted third track dead center, it's up to you
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